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yeah i'm not denying it
I wonder if Blackbeard not being able to sleep is related to his ability to eat multiple fruits. Like because he doesn't have any dreams of his own, he's not limited to one fruit
nah the 2 DFs thing with BB is mega interesting, let's not kid ourselves
jozu lost his arm ?
he did
Think its related to drum island
Aokiji ripped his arm off

yeah this is one of the theories right. but now after the whole CD thing you have to wonder if it's the purest form of PTSD that has caused it
its not a big bother for me as well but i just dislike this direction
Why, if you can, articulate why you don't find him interesting?
Shuron basically listed everything about him, so there's really nothing else left to present. If nothing in there interests you, then yeah, you just don't like him. But I'm curious exactly why you find him boring
Ngl I subscribe to the theory that its trauma and he has PTSD from GV
Similar to how Doffy cant sleep properly cuz he remembers his past too
for all we know, as crazy as it sounds, BB might never sleep because he's so fueled by revenge/the nightmare he saw on GV
Luffy said a tavern (shanks) told him that people from snow countries dont sleep or they’ll die
I'd also add that his contrast with Luffy is a great one. We have Luffy showing us the merits of freedom, and then Blackbeard showing us what it looks like when a bad person conducts themselves with the same freedom.
Doffy said he was so angry all he could do was laugh
Nut shit
I love how whenever Luffy and Teach interacts, Teach shuts Luffy up
It doesn't have be a particularly long explanation either
Nah it's not PTSD that he doesn't sleep
Blackbeard is the only person who leaves Luffy in a situation where Luffy doesn't know what to say
He doesnt discourage luffy either
hes too young to remember all this
i think it doesn't help the fact that Oda rarely shows us BB relatively speaking in an 1100+ chapter manga. so memories can fade concerning even the most important characters
Luffy said he was gonna save his brother and Blackbeard said nothing is impossible in this world
🌓🌓🌓
Yup. He told Luffy to go save Ace and congratulated him on Skypeia Fascinating dynamic
Yeah, I just find them being two-sides of the same coin better
actually thinking about it, there's also the implication of Pudding of all people getting kidnapped by BB and his crew. Granted it might be obvious but still would need full confirmation of why, helps that her race is apparently also critically endangered like the Lunarians and Buccaneers.
I just like that
i mean it's hard to pin point directly but i'd say that it's just his general attitude and vibe if you know what i mean.
Yeah I do
these are the three panels that makes me question that
I always felt like teach always kind of embodied the same freedom that Luffy did. Just kind of evil.
he is never forgetting this shit lmao
He should be too young to remember but Oda doesn't know how babies work
Yeah Luffy never knows what to say to Teach because he lowkey agrees with him
I think sometimes a character just isn't going to resonate with you & you may not be capable of expressing that precisely
Look at those eyes bro it's burnt into his mind already
Teach says what Luffy is thinking
Evil Freedom™
Yea
He believed that luffy would find it and said that nothing in this world is impossible
Shanks should be dead rn lets be real lol
Luffy wants everyone to have freedom to do good shit
yeah you're bound to have someone you dislike, who maybe isn't bad on paper per-say
Probably
Blackbeard thinks everyone should have freedom to do evil shit
I don’t think Luffy wants everyone to have freedom he doesn’t care about most people lol
He agrees and disagrees on some level. He doesn't know how to really pushback against him . Because in a way, Luffy gets him and Balckbeard gets Luffy
Oda forgot his children. Classic.
He doesn't care at all about other people's freedom
damn what a sight, i wonder if he will have vivid memories or will it be super distorted memories
Luffy and Blackbeard likely have the same ideology but at the same time not exactly which then leads to a clash of ideals.
If he did, he wouldn't enslave people
What do we think BB wants to do with his freedom if he sits the throne?
Luffy really doesn’t care about what most people have going on
Luffy and Blackbeard have the same ideology but not the same morals
Hes doing it for his wife that has never been mentioned until a few chapters from now
The way Oda depicted it makes me think it's one of those things he will never forget. It doesn't make logical sense, but again this is One Piece.
yeah that summarizes it in a nutshell
Honestly a great quote that encapsulates Blackbeard’s whole character

Luffy cares so far as he has a negative opinion on things like slavery and tyrants, but he doesn't want the responsibility of assuming he must do something about it just because it's wrong
Part of the reason he’s so successful is that he takes so many risks and is a believe of DREAMS
In his mind he has the “freedom” to enslave others
His confrontation with Doflamingo does show that Luffy cares
He hates seeing people suffer
He just encourages luffy and tells him the one piece is the same it exists like skypiea
I forgot. Did he enslave any random person or did he focus on Marines?
But he doesn't want responsibility
He just like me fr
Blackbeard just has slaves in general
Yeah he wants absolute freedom for himself, but he doesn't care about others'
i dislike bb because he is a fat evil cunt but man can't help but feel sorry for him sometimes
what an insane childhood memory
Probably a little bit of everything, but the slaves we saw looked like civilians, and they were mostly minorities
I think Blackbeard is fun when he gets on the page
You dislike him because he doesn’t have aura
Rocks when he finds out his son reinstated slavery on Fullalead
Like minks and long necks etc
ig
I can tell because you like rocks 
OK then that's not helping his case at all. If it had been Marines only, I could see it as a form of total revenge against all who would side with "The World."
so original 
i really like the darkness fruit tho, if i had to say something positive about Blackbeard
i love how it's drawn
Rocks is kind of Blackbeard just with aura lol
Rocks is who BB thinks he is in his head.
people keep saying rocks and blackbeard are similar i dont see it
Blackbeard really is gonna end up sucker punching his doubters
Rocks and BB are totally different in my mind.
😭
i love how Oda drew it as a cloak
is blackbeard supposed to be charismatic?
or a shroud of darkness almost
Yeah I think BB has charisma
I think he's got charisma in a way, yeah
He is for sure
not as much as Rocks though
Blackbeard rocks
Not in the same way as Rocks does
He’s charismatic but you can’t tell because he doesn’t have aura
well he clearly has an army of followers like Don Krieg and his crew.
"aiming for the top." Goda.
Greatest eva
you are trying too hard lol
illya kinda corny
Am I wrong?
I don't think Illya is trying to critcize you atm, Khalid lol
Blackbeard does have aura if you have taste
The only reason he doesn’t appeal to you is because he’s a loser
Like that may be a big part of why you don't like him lol
He's got the same aura as Barbossa in the first Pirates of the Caribbean
Misunderstood hero
throat goat
fatass wants to eat everything
Nice try
Calorie thieving
which is fine
Blob
Yes that’s what it is for most people
Real swallower
wonder how much he eats on a day to day basis
hm. maybe he just wants the ancient weapons lol
Blackbeard doesn’t fit the shonen mold because he’s cowardly almost, he doesn’t brute force and over power anything
It’s why rocks rises to prominence so quickly to a level Blackbeard never had
yeah he is cowardly i don't particuarly find that interesting
Yes that’s what I’m telling you
but i like kuma
Flirting vs harassment meme but it's luffy and blackbeard both running away when they need to
I’m interested in Rocks lore before he raided Marijoa as his debut
Only teach gets shit for this but luffy gets a free pass
blaming a character for running away never made sense
You don’t get insane debut performance like that
Blackbeard could reach the levels of rocks if he defeats shanks in a fair fight
lol luffy has run away a lot too
Luffy runs away to protect others, blackbeard runs away to protect himself
that's just showing some level of intelligence
Luffy ran away from Smoker in Alabasta
He was alone
Then ran right to his crew and exposed them to Smoker
Ace had to save them
does anyone remember what chapter it showed BB with slaves? i kind of remember what the panel looked like, but not the chapter number
I don’t remember this
1080
Don't ever try me like that again
speaking of Smoker, when will he be back?
I don’t remember it that means it didn’t happen
Bordering on fans
I respect it
Well, it's the way that Blackbeard conducts himself too. Those panels where Blackbeard is laying there calling Whitebeard his daddy after he gets that ass-whooped on is nasty work lol
I feel like it’s also kinda the same with shanks
yeah
that panel jumps to mind
I had to argue about it with Hathor who said Teach didn't own slaves but "prisoners" so yeah
Shanks is just a character with aura and nothing much else
This a lie
kinda pathetic
Luffy would not be doing some shit like that lol
Thank god he spared Bonney
And that’s why he’s so loved he comes in and does the coolest shit ever and then leaves
I will not engage with one as biased as yourself
Luffy isnt teach tho
Name one time where he ran for himself
So like no shit ?
I’d say Blackbeard is worse morally than Rocks cuz he’s clearly more insane and probably mentally ill
But irs funny that I like rocks but can’t like shanks despite the similarities
Enlighten me
Zero sleep does that to you
He ran from akainu but that was taking his crew into consideration
And his own ability
rocks is a flashback character he gets a pass for being perfect
Literally
Could he kill akainu? Yes
But he just got his crew and he has no ship
I do think that Oda should work harder on showing Blackbeards actual strength cause it’s rather unclear
Which is why the marines were there in the first place
A villain needs hype
We gotta bring Lisa in here
Blackbeard is severely lacking in it
it's unclear because whenever he gets serious it's off-screen lol
He wanted to trade bonney for a warship because sanjuan broke it
Majorly that
I like that Blackbeard doesn’t steamroll his opponents
But I wish he had a little more in the hype department
Bets for next week?
Someone rko worstgen
seeing him actually engage against someone without the screen turning to black would probably give a lot
Okay guys my fault, I clearly misjudged. Blackbeard is apparently the good guy here, he’s just someone who really wants to protect his crew
Blackbeard's strength is his planning which has been shown so many times, which for me builds up hype cause I know we'll only know his physical strength when he thinks he's already won
The point is just Luffy may run away from a losing battle but he's dignified. And even when he's clearly at a disadvantage, he holds form. That's really why people aren't on Luffy's neck in the same way is what I'm saying. Like this is Luffy at the mercy of his enemies
the most planning he does is just when anything else doesn't work, use darkness
I mean BB easily dismantled both boa and law and had Rayleigh saying he couldnt beat him. aside from beating shanks don't know were getting anything else
No one said he was a good guy, but if he knows his crew is gonna get fucked he’ll get them out the way
This literally happened when he fought ace
He's not even conscious but there's so much vigor and vitality emanating from his spirit he's willing guys to sleep lol
He’s doing it for himself
He told burgess and nem to stay back because ace would fuck them up
He told them to stay out of the fight
Like what
It's almost like hiding his true strength until it was too late for the powers that be to check him was a core narrative for Teach in the first half of the story....I wonder if fans are supposed to keep that in mind when reflecting on events since the timeskip...
Niggas is saying anything
Didn't blackbeard have to sneak boa
also just wait there and wait for rng to happen then call it fate
It is NOT that serious
obviously her fruit is busted but it worked
He was right infront of her
idk if he had to as much as he just wanted to
Sneaking boa was the most efficient option
he definitely had to given her fruit, no?
I see the blackbeard pirates as "we don't NEED to jump you, but it's a lot easier if we do!"
any attempt that shows him prioritizing the crew’s safety is for his own benefit
i think they had to sneak her because if they didn't, as soon as she looked at him he'd be stoned
He could've maybe have beaten her in a face to face confrontation, but ambushing her is just easier. BB already says she's capable of turning him to stone. He didn't want to take that risk
she still needs to land the arrows
no?
Yeah he operates like a gambler
Or kicks
He plays his cards carefully
And the beam would definitely work on him
with currently known info this is correct yed
If he didn't he'd probably have to worry about the possiblity of being hit and being turned to stone .
or beam
If both are prepared face to face Blackbeard wins for sure
If it was fore his own benefit why not use them as human shields
How does this disprove my point
Literally
Because he’s not stupid lol?
Literally told them to stay out
he gets insta stoned lol
Then he proceeded to put belt to ass with ace
What good are they to him if they’re dead
Nah
Also remember the Navy was also on the island (+ seraphim Mihawk) he doesn't wanna waste time in a fight especially with One Piece pacing
boa loses to like 4 people in the verse
I don't think it's about their safety as much as it is he's the only one who can take Ace
3 of them being Luffy
He just pulls her and snaps her neck
hemos
She’s not Shakky
Ace sux

Almost broke his neck
She can’t just make relevant characters weak in the knees
This will be me on Rocks death chapter
I can only image how he did lhanks
is fuji one of them
because he can't see her
Its forced mane
not necessarily
We’re multiplying
@grand flower you once asked me how I thought you looked. This is it
I’m a free thinker that’s why
Sent him on a vacation to impel down
I fw Rocks, he’s cool
As soon as i seen he was blackbeards dad i was like aw man its over
I oughta whoop your ass
That white rabbit gif kills me every time
Boa ASMR solos him instantly
I like hype moments and aura!
It’s so good man
Oh am I wrong
If you don't like Shanks you're not allowed to like Rocks!
Ok so name your reasons
I most definitely am
He's ugly, I'm pretty. And his beard is trash
Beard is weird
Hes not ugly
Somebody grab da clippers
rocks gonna die in two chaprers bruh 💔
He’s handsome
Can’t wait
Shanks is still alive
I know it
boa loses to mihawk (bitchless), Luffy, zoro (doesn't see women) and Rayleigh (not young enough) btw
He look like this nigga
I just dislike hype moments and aura characters, like he doesn’t seem to be super interesting.
Also personally seeing yall and others in the fandom glaze this dude to death kinda makes me a little annoyed. I’m a contrarian so
And shanks isn’t facing mass persecution
The monster trio of their crew
This has to be racially motivated
Shanks isn’t oppressed
I'm black
A fellow contrarian
I hate his fans
Insert Hiriluk quote here
shanks is half cd
You’re a free thinker alright
I want them to suffer
So you’re forcing yourself to be different
Sad times
Who
I'm indifferent on rocks
I been knew rocks was the goat
Rocks is cool, but nothing more at the moment
Where da mods at
I’m a fucking hater
!mods
Well Rokaya is unfortunately here
Oda puts hype moments in aura in manga
Fans like it
???
Niggas is jibber jabbin again
in aura in manga
Here are ways I will warm up on rocks
Fuck you butch
Been a rocks believer and it wont stop
I need to see him do something evil
Stfu
He’s a family man right?
That's not Rice's name
Well a child is any parent’s weakness
Right
He will be blackmaled
what's ur prob
Your name's not Butch right?
Rocks goated 
will he have an auraful death
or a pathetic death
My IQ is too high for all of you
you see the thing with rocks is that he has a tragic flaw (being bbs dad) so him being otherwise perfect is great writing
Name ten books
Maybe not pathetic
Literally
But
Whether or not we like or hate Rocks, we can all agree Loki did nothing wrong and is a better character than Rocks in every way
Socrates alt
If he wasnt blackbeards dad i promise there would be less hate
Loki does hype moments and aura right
Its sad
He takes no Ls
loki has 0 hype moments
rocks fans gonna see it as auraful and rocks haters gonna see it as pathetic
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even yamato wasn't as divisive as rocks damn
Stfu
He bouta COOK
penny would you like rocks more if he was caked up
It works because we know Loki is a little pathetic and overcompensating
Nah
my goat, but oda giveth and oda taketh away
No
Thats why
that's debatable , especially with this cover story I think yamato hater vs fan conversations have resurfaced
how come
Yamato had the fandom on edge for years
you tryna hit this jay?
Vic was a victim
It took the entirety of the giant warriors of elbaph to restrain him
Those who know
ok but they're giants so
I don’t understand what this means
took a whole lotta frauds to restrain him?
What is a Jay
I'm not gonna lie, I did not care about this feat at first. But I'm retroactively viewing it in a different light
it's not like the giants are all Haralds
theyre all bums except for the two ancient ones
More like mr.3 victims
i know oda is trying to tell us the giants are strong but man i can't buy it
Oda could've done better on the giants pr all these years
Intellectually you know they're the strongest military in the world
Send them the Loki panels it will change their minds
But we always see them getting whooped on
I’m the villain of this channel bro
he really couldn't have done worse
The stocks are plummeting
Everyone is against me
probably because every time we see one they getting folded
Cuz I speak facts
Oh the misery
mate nobody knows who you are
The giants have been neutered
fr bruh
And it’s all thanks to Harald
yall slander garp but harald is the true wg dog
Luffy wouldn't be able to solo the island of Giants
Harald is my goat
Also Gaban is included in the island
I love thinking about how him and Teech play into each other, but I agree that Xebec, right now, is just a cool character. I think these next few chapters are gonna do a lot for his individual character, though
Harald is the leader of a country, Garp is a bum
Literally
Harald is a true natural grown aura farmer but one guy cannot carry the reputation of an entire nation
Only in the OP fandom will you see people saying someone is "just a cool character" wtf lol
I wonder if the next few chapters will explain how BB ended up being so much more of a bitch than rocks is
Dory and Brogy lost to Mr.3 , Kashi and Oimo lost to paulie and the franky family , Hajrudin had to extreme diff machvise , whitbeard just fodderized john giant and so on and so forth
To be honest
Assuming his death isn’t revealed this soon. Though it feels like we’re approaching the end of the flashback. Who knows though
Just respond to me, man lol
Its really fuckass sengoku
We can't comprehend more than aura farming and hype
There is one thing we are united by
Hatred for Garlic
It's not just you but you notice that you saw it
Get this vampire outta here
He wasn't even at god valley
Figarland Fraudling
Exactly
Yet was talking about it like he survived ww3
Bro was talking about GARPS experience
The bumaas was watching all that in 4k while doing his paperwork
Rocks @ the fandom: https://media.tenor.com/Sbw7nOfWfNcAAAAM/are-you-not-entertained-entertained.gif
Garling truly was the rat of his time
Bro stands next to garp 24/7 so he doesn’t get low diffed
AND WRONGLY SO TOO
Bro got a zoan and still shitty
Definitely approaching the end of the Xebec portion. I think we need a few chapters dedicated to Harald, his developing relationship with the WG, death, and Loki
Gimme dofflamingo high diff
Rocks is an amazing character, he was willing to give up his dream to be a good husband and great father
Nah lemme chill i hate the string fruit
He's simple but effective
I don't think we're done with rocks and Harald
there hasn't been a payoff to their interactions yet
I was looking more to Harald anyway. Think he’s had me more interested than Rocks himself, and I don’t hate Rocks here
Rocks is not a good husband or a great father. He is doing the absolute bare minimum by coming back for them at all.
If he was so great why did he leave them in the first place 
Rocks is only one tier of Dad above bum ass Dragon
Here we go with this again
Yeah the only reason he's even coming back for them is they're being genocided lol
this channel loooooves to talk about rocks
Dragon did it to lead a revolution
Wocks am I right
This channel loves to talk about the central character of this flashback
ok damn bruh
He left them for their safety
absolute burn
He moved them to godvalley for their safety
Dragon is a better father than rocks. Rocks is 1 tier above yasopp.
Anyone think GV, not the rest of the flashback, lasts till end of the year
He left because he wanted to pirate
rocks discourse is much better then does garp love slaves conversation😂
Thats not even good bait
Hell nah
I'm not sure rocks is better than yassop
U only disagree bc rocks is cool
Or why didn’t dragon save Ginny
I'm sure if yassop heard the wg was doing this shit on syrup village hed come home too
Dragon left to lead a revolution
Leaving for a good cause vs leaving to be a pirate
leaving is leaving

your kid wont give two shits why you left
I disagree because dragon's dumbass decided leave his son doing the majority of his work alone
Soldiers leave their families during war too
People tend to be proud that their father served in the military
Luffy is not doing dragons work
Marineford he wasn't there
Dragon believes in luffy
Sabaody he wasn't there
2 weeks ago in here people thought Garp was an oppressor😂😂
Plus he’s the worlds worst criminal
Wano he wasn't there
Cant do much
fair point
He’s the oppressor’s tool
If dragon shows up the gorosei or holy knights show up
that would be a better way to describe it
Dragon left for a revolution but didn't come back, Rocks did a 1 man revolution and was about to do a round 2 revolution but then he had to come back to his family
His subordinate was tho… and he literally is the one that saved them lol
Rocks > Dragon dad tier
I mean he was obviously visiting them
Kuma did it for because he believed in luffy
U only think this bc rocks is cool. Dragon is an objectively better father
By himself
Dragon hasn’t even gotten a chance to be a father
Not because of dragon
No one on his crew knew except for the women
Bro was visting his wife and family all while being a pirate
Stop the yap
Some mf in piratefolk said his backstory is mysery content
What do you guys think about that btw?
Could I get some intel on what pirate folk is
I mean, his life was pretty fucked up
I think this because Rocks is a father who can actually get things done and not sit on a chair for 40 years
lol
do you just want us to laugh at a piratefolks user?
The whole, "Kuma's backstory is just suffering and his character is just sob fest"
I genuinely have no idea
Apparently its the worst of the worse of op fans
Perhaps
Ohhh
lol that has nothing to do with how good of a father they are you essentially just admitted that u think rocks is a better father bc he’s cooler
I mean rocks was a dad for like 2 years tbf
haha piratefolks so dumb
Subreddit that was supposed to be where you could talk about one piece without having the fear of getting banned
But turned out to be a cees poll of one piece hate

it should be called marinefolk
Lordy
True
It's kind of a shame since there isn't really a good one piece subreddit to discuss one piece anymore
W bait
But speaking of marines, idk how mfs uphold greenbull so much
What did he do
r/onepice is OF models and endless glaze
nah this place is easily the best place to talk ab one piece
What’s wrong with loving how a character functions for the story, and what they add to its lore, but simply finding them to be cool when examining them individually? I find this to be like, a super normal opinion to have. In the same way that I think it’s normal for people experiencing a story week by week to discuss the potential future implications each chapter has and how they could potentially feel about those implications coming to fruition
Trash
Piratefolk LOVES Rocks, that's all you need to know 
only the same type of people like him😂 rage baiters
If Rocks was visiting his wife and baby boy while Yasopp never dropped in...
I mean he tanked an attack from yamato but what has he done to be put over luffy
Not a damned thing
Is that a bad thing? Who doesn't love him?
They're starting to switch up btw
rocks
Do we have any evidence that rocks visited them
Like they always do
Penny hates bro
No, not really
lol
How would he fall in love and have a kid if he never visited
I'm not switching up on anything, I've been a hater from the start
Jibber jabber
They're saying he's a mid character at best, but because we haven't gotten any good written character that we are treating like a magnum opus
The same way any person has a kid and leaves
Fuck em
At least you’re dedicated to it Penny
penny what’s your opinion on doflamingo as a villian

I mean, HK pfp
Gunko* pfp
Rocks is the goat
Penny be damned
When imu gets vivi shes dead
Still the same thing
Ok question did rocks use the “getting cigarettes” or the “getting milk” excuse when he left his wife and infant son
Getting men
Well gloriosa says something about how “this is the something something of a new father”
Which means he’s had to visited eris at least twice. Once for the uhh and second for the birth
Very good character, one of the best villains in the series, why?
He's a getting men kinda guy
Men huh
dawg
What
WHAT AM I READING
Sup
I’m BACK
Existing ig
Why did I open chat
YAY
Rocks fans….. 
#allsimsayin
Sybau
Rocks discussion
Clocks ticking
lmao this emote
Yall said he was getting men dont act confused now
Is what is happening
Someone send the rainbow hair Rocks image
I laugh every time
It's canon trust
The gif gets me
rocks fans are better than luffy fans at least
Black n yellow rocks hair when
Me too
this shit just gets me mad
god luffy fans are so stupid and ugly
stop sending it
so the reason u not a fan of rocks isn’t because of his morality but more of his character writing? or u just don’t like anything about him
If its black n red, i fear for what happens next..
Chopper fans are the best
Luffy fans are scared of agenda smoke
Aren't most people here Luffy fans?
we are.
Or are you talking about Luffy FANS
Luffy doesn’t have an agenda
he’s the fuckin main character😂
^^^^^^
Least deranged chopper fan
Exactly
so pushing his agenda doesn’t even make sense
im goated by nature
i hope we dont get a nothing burger chapter next chapter
My homie tried being a fraudhawk fan and went straight back to luffy
Investing in Luffy agenda is like investing in apples
Tears blud
Fuck was that
Bot
Yall let anyone in this mf
Man who you telling
saved
Need more gatekeeping
I got the craziest reply before
This some bullshit
And it just went unnoticed
Like who?
When? Where?
@ pennyroyaltea
hes gonna get at least one impressive feat against Imu
don’t let the sakazuki fans find this channel😂
rich inhteriting hathor's will
You mean 
wakainu😭
Nah I like fucking with Penny
Just say Rocks and he jumps
Dancing naked man for 5 year feat?
actually akainu anti's aren't allowed here. if you don't fw akainu go back to manga
this is HIS place
I actually wish he was more evil lol. Basically I just think his presentation is really weird. I know Oda wants to show us he's not AS evil as we were led to believe, but it's kinda ridiculous when the only thing we've SEEN him do is attack Loki, everything else is just told to us. The charity thing was when I started having an issue with it, it feels out of a parody almost. He can't even do pirate things without Oda making the people he's stealing from evil
Kizaru is better
We know he wants to replace Imu so it makes things even weirder
Poor Kaido's getting powercreeped by everyone
So the evil guy isn't evil enough
It’s true he isn’t really that evil
I want to see it instead of Oda telling us
there's two things Oda wont do next chapter
well maybe because hes not actually evil
End one piece
I’m taking this to mean that the WG lies
- Make Rocks look bad
Either you're too evil or not evil enough
And get Usopp his moment
There's no winning with yall
Sengoku Usopp’d us about Rocks 🥀
- Make Imu look bad
There's never too evil
We need a specific example of the atrocity you want Rocks to commit
When the manga with morality complexity doesn't make characters morally simple
Akainu
You gotta be evil to steal from other evil people
He out eviled them
akainu isnt that evil
Socrates changing his name to Vortex is kinda crazy
he has a long way to go
That’s not what
Motherfucker
the ones that say too evil aren't real. they're bots made to filter out the weak. only the evilest can survive them.
HE KILLED A BOAT FULL OF INNOCENTS
Evel Kneivel
thats weak stuff nowadays
Xebec is Reversid but he resists being fully taken over..
that was literally robin
IM HAVING AN ANEURYSM FOR FUCKS SAKE

I'm not Socrates goddamit
too far
Almost 3 times
imagine if he gets taken over but he manages to control it, so hes a fully in control demon
Holy shit is that him?
or is that what u said
That’s what I’m sayin
Socrates and Vortex
mb lol its 1am for me rn
no bruh
IM slow
maybe youre just too fast
NO
Lmaooo
they talk different
i dont remember it
They both Loki No Limit Soldiers
so not very cool
damn wasnt cool enough huh
Why would someone who's not banned make an alt? And use the same pfp?
did roger say something
Lmao
Tbh I’m just spitballing there but that’s what I think happened with Harald
the adventure line
Yeah who:(
Harold
All I know is both of yall some Loki crash outs


We ride or die for Loki
No limit soldier
imagine Loki ends up being a fraud
Not possible
Nah loki aint a fraud
But if Harald can do it then Rocks can of course
I couldn't see that
We can only imagine because it isn't possible
Again
Hes the cooler younger brother
oh he lost aura for that. garp and xebec were like "oh the humanity, these CDs have to be stopped " and roger was like "
THIS is AWESOME"
Cartoon fruit loki

I would be pissed
I cant even imagine fam
And climbed back up
actually now that im thinking about it its kind of swag
nah it was cold
Aint no way 8 year old loki was beating similar beast to pre ts luffy just to be ass as an adult
I liked when Roger said that shit it made me like him more
"oh the humanity, these CDs have to be stopped "
continues to work for the CDs for 40 more years
who is mosa
't hace the points for that for that
I think he’s gonna join the fight
Maybe shirahoshi
Remember, it took all of elbaph, plus shanks and his crew to restrain him
Most think its Ida
I've seen a few think its Shirahoshi
He also has a special bounty
True
Oh and he also was a yonko
And he got a legendary df
Idk bout allat
Lmao
shirahoshi and ida are good picks
Yonko huh?
We still dont know the df yet what's the current theories
🐐 WE LOVE CHARACTERS WITH CONTRADICTION BECAUSE CONTRADICTION IS HUMAN AND GOOD CHARACTERS ARE HUMAN
GARP SWEEP
I’ve seen someone say Rocks is Hiriluk
Remember, shanks got his title as a yonko after Loki was defeated

Which was 6 years ago
LMAOO
fire theory
Loki is horrible with names so i dont think mosa is a real name
That would be kinda based..
Shlawg called luffy roddy
Bro lost all the weight and turned white
Luffy got a taste of his own medicine
uffy
look at this intellectual
🪞👀
Who's Who actually has a nice fruit
yeah
No way we saw everything it can do
when garp and the admirals have contradiction its dope and makes them great characters. when the yonko have contradiction it makes them bitch fraud hypocrites with NO values.

Choose one
objectively
How's your arc going buddy?
this sounds like me making fun of myself but its acctually just real and true
Fuck any Admiral that isn't Issho
Garp is one of the most criticized characters what are you talking about
I'm up to date with the manga!!
hi rich!!
Kuzan?
not by me
Hey Lemi
yeah, he is
You know what, good for you
Hes not an Admiral anymore
He doesn’t deserve that
Kizaru?
#also-manga message context for why i said this
Uber Eats Fence Sitting Kizaru?
Something something morally complexity
Fuck him too
but he is just a faithful dog of the navy, he doesn't care about the injustices that are committed
but you're not up to date with the manga?
also manga is here!!
I am don't worry about it
Keep your Usopp agenda going buddy
is this density or fantastic rage bait 🤔
I think garp is weighing pirates as more evil than the wg so hes a marine but at the same time he tries to reform the navy from the inside
what episode are you on?
Chapter 1162
oh, you're up to date then
lucci
Wow. no free speech in elbaf
can't even tell a warrior to flee in elbaf
maybe jarul needs to go...
bro he’s bout to be packed😂
That’s not true. He’s literally being showed this chapter reacting about the injustices. We know he refuses to work for the celestial dragons, we know he doesn’t follow orders, we know he works with sword who are an independent unit. He hasn’t been showed trying to stop the injustices but he does care and that’s why he doesn’t get involved
unless he got secret acoc
Garp also sacrifices himself for a protege that has always gone against corrupt marines when he's gotten the chance, even Akainu. Garp cares.
yeah, at least once in your life you see him react!!
This is all because usopp hit the sword in head btw
He is
thank you for having so much faith in Usopp 😭
Ofc thats the goat
We wouldnt have a fleet if it wasnt for goatsopp
Nami wouldnt have a climatic if it wasnt for goatsopp
Usopp WILL lift ragnir
thats true
I’m glad we are all on the same page
You know a lot of people will say that usopp has been falling behind or that he hasn’t been getting stronger, but he’s actually in a good place right now
Even if we have profound disagreements on Rocks
but in that battle between van augur and bepo, I saw a lot of speed and endurance from van augur!! 
Warp fruit is hard countered by future sight
Which Usopp will get
And if you can snipe…
I mean, his nickname was supersonic even before he got the warp fruit
oh, interesting, I didn't know it
Now, honestly, I don’t know if that nickname is for his actual speed or just for his shooting speed because honestly from what I’ve seen, it could be both
yeah, that gives him a great advantage
Do you guys think Van Auger can actually see fate cause he’s always talking about it as if he knows exactly how things are going to play out
I remembered when he shot Ace,
he hit him once in the forehead and once in the chest with a single movement
if he can see fate then he already knows what usopp is going to do to him
so u better hope he doesn’t😂
Usopp got that too
Bro took a head butt from ulti
And yea van augur is still training his df so he will be a threat in the future
It's an interesting question, now I want to see more of his battles 
You know I really wish oda was more consistent with how much damage usopp’s arsenal can deal cause it’s not consistent in the slightest. I feel like it’s always different depending on who he’s fighting.
thats true
Ulti put luffy through the floor too
He tanked like three of these by the way
you're right
the best usopp strategy
are they friends
For some reason, people like to say that usopp is just a normal person but he’s really not like really really not
usopp and enel should be good friends if you think about it
Bro seen that shit last minute and dodged it
Like you guys remember that time he fell off the tower of justice face first and somehow survived
He beat down a fishman with a tiny hsmmer
That giant blood

🙂↔️
Usopp is stronger than your average person in a fight. He actually is a pretty good shot. I think as far as his physical strength is concerned, he probably is around the strength level of your average 19 year old guy. Maybe a little bit stronger.
Usopps will cannot be drsined 🗣️
Bro was carrying around giant logs
Giant fish
And zoro
Durability wise he's got to technically be higher than that considering he's surviving Ulti headbutts which I think would kill mots normal people
When was this?
I mean, the dude carries around a giant slingshot and can actually use it without breaking his arms
yeah, I remember!!
He lost his muscles unfortunately
I have to wonder how heavy that slingshot actually is
Definitely not light
I believe this was in water7
Considering the ample time it takes to set it up
Ennies lobby
Yeaa
you're right
Ik he carried zoro in sabaody
The thing is, I can see Oda letting Usopp getting beat up by a regular person too. Like as a gag sort of, but he's willing to do that because there is supposed to be some truth that he's "an average guy." But in an actual fight with real combatants, he'll be way more useful than the average person
That's the thing about a manga like OP lol
Well, I don’t know how heavy it is precisely but the drawback force on that thing must be insane
That's how most shonen are
Look at Naruto and the amount of times he gets beaten up by old people or children as a joke
Yeah lol
where this from
This is doing more for Mihawk's aura for me than his portrayal in the manga for some reason lol
idk lol
It makes him sound cool though
and Vista ??
"Mihawk doesn't fight anybody"
Kizaru loves messing with usopp for some reason
hahaha, in egghead, usopp had no luck against kizaru!! 😭
It’s because he knows he doesn’t have armament but one of these days one of his shots is going to connect and it’s going to blow kizaru’s head off
by pirate they mean east blue noobs
Spawn camping
blow that shit smooth off
People in the replies already going there
"A fierce warrior who challenges pirates to battle to pass the time"
Sounds heat
yeah, at some point usopp will have hai in his shots 
Needs to just go all-out at this point
Pirates being 20 douriki Krieg and Zoro
Nah they're equals
This man is Yonko level. Let him perform like that lol
vista is a nice guy im sure
Zoro surpassed Mihawk over the timeskip and he's still Lucci level
Zoro had to be trained by Vista!!
💀 that moment when you are
I wonder why they got beef
This man yasopp was really complaining to his captain that he wasn’t ready to meet his son. That’s some dead beat stuff right there.
Mercd Bart for no reason, deadbeat bum
That’s a strange nickname. I wonder what they mean when they call him that
Maybe he's like a hunter or something
Since he's a sniper
No matter how far you go, his rifle gets you. It feels like he's chasing you
Weird to see a Barto hater
I’m gonna be honest I don’t like the red hair pirates not because they’re lame or whatever but because I don’t know where they stand in the story
I don't like them because they're boring


