also-manga

[frosty oasis]

We need to turn tail

The hopium is gone…

[grand flower]

I need Usopp ans Hajrudin to do it

[wet heron]

When the hopium abandons us guess who is still there waiting for us

[blazing depot]

Hathor

[wet heron]

Ah yes COPIUM

[blazing depot]

I disagree with you on many things

But you are absolutely right with Usopp

[wet heron]

THE MIRACLE DRUG

[blazing depot]

He will COOK

[frosty oasis]

No way….

Wrong reply but still

[wet heron]

WE USOPP FANS LOVE 🥰

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-luffy-teach-dreams-blackbeard-gif-19898151

[wet heron]

U merely adjusted to it, we were born in it

[wet heron]

Exactly spooke

U seein the vision

Bless up

[blazing depot]

We must fight the common enemy

Usopp haters

[wet heron]

On all the mods soul Usopp will have his moment against Imu this arc

[storm anvil]

They finna dead

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/handshake-vladimir-putin-putin-shake-gif-17743693

Cool hobby

[wet heron]

Arsal loses all his feet chat privileges if it doesn’t happen ..

[wraith mantle]

You must make me an adjustable height table one day

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/obama-and-trump-barack-obama-and-donald-trump-trump-and-obama-trump-laughing-obama-laughing-gif-711253286418767214

Me and Hathor

[storm anvil]

Usopp lifts the ragnir or kabuto eats df

[wet heron]

I have one of those at office, they are not as hard to make as u think 🤔 wait are u talking about the ones that uses air pistons with a controller or purely mechanical

[storm anvil]

What agenda are we pushing

[wraith mantle]

Yeah with the controller

[wet heron]

Don’t lump me in with these decrepits

[blazing depot]

The idea is we are on opposite sides

But have the same goals…

[frosty oasis]

So it’s one of those things

[wraith mantle]

Sumn like this

[wet heron]

Hmm

[frosty oasis]

Working toward the common goal

[wet heron]

Oh we have those, yeah not hard to make once u have those pistons and a controller

Might make one some day 😭 somewhere in the far far future

Cause those pistons are costly af

[dense haven]

chapter out yet

[frosty oasis]

We are not there yet spice

[wet heron]

Kabuto eating usopp

[woven talon]

Lmao

That gif is hilarious

[ocean sigil]

So are you

[hazy echo]

https://x.com/yamsgambit/status/1978946461988454636?s=46

Y a m 👻 (@YamsGambit)

My wife was HANGRY as hell gah damn 😧

X · Oct 16, 2025, 10:09 PM

[rose rune]

me and my wife hanging out

[woven talon]

Thanks, I think 🤔

[ocean sigil]

You're welcome brother 🫂

[hot cairn]

chapter week soon

[rose rune]

great. finally we can start complaining to feeso and meek

[olive sigil]

That’s mean

Only Meeks

Free Feeso

[dense haven]

chapter out yet

[olive sigil]

Freeso

[wraith mantle]

20 minutes or so

Be patient

[blazing depot]

I’m still gonna make fun of Gyaban

Worst spelling ever

[olive sigil]

Every time you talk I’m reminded of children asking are we there yet

[wraith mantle]

Damn bruh

[olive sigil]

Scooper gyattban

[wraith mantle]

He just called him a dumb little kid

[olive sigil]

Only when he talks

[final trench]

Scooper joban

[olive sigil]

Scooper cuckban

[hazy echo]

https://youtu.be/REXhLXvN-bE?si=r7F74setsQ4gT-Vg

[graceful grove]

what in the goofy slideshow is this

[kindred forge]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DNNapIOOiO9/?igsh=OXNmOGJvOHcxd2xp

s_animes_h

I gather all the best anime content into one place. Follow for some awesome anime content and scenes/moments every day 😊 #anime

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Huge spoilers in live action

Shanks still has both arms.

[vale heath]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl5QsXyzzEQ

[olive sigil]

Why is bonk punch so tiny

[kindred forge]

Idk bruh

[runic dock]

I only see 1

Fake news

[kindred forge]

The point is that shanks has both arms

[runic dock]

Nah he has 1

[kindred forge]

It’s about what he says.

[kindred forge]

And how he references the coat

And not a stump.

[runic dock]

Idk sounds like a bunch of bs

[olive sigil]

The real point is bonk punch looks tiny

[kindred forge]

We’ve never seen shanks stump before

Just saying.

[runic dock]

[kindred forge]

All we saw was it get bitten off once

Then he covered where it was with cloaks.

and jackets

He’s Garlings bloodline

[runic dock]

Are you saying even in the manga he has both arms?

[kindred forge]

And Garling and shamrock regenerate

[kindred forge]

Yes

[runic dock]

Oh okay

Well have fun with that one

[kindred forge]

This is his plan to kill Blackbeard

[tranquil blade]

What if Shanks can still regenerate and right before he's on panel he just cuts off his arm again

[kindred forge]

He’s gonna convince the world

That he only has one arm.

[winter oasis]

it's a clear joke lol

[kindred forge]

Do you realize the battle power increase

Having a hidden arm is?

Future sight ain’t helping you

Because you instinctively believe he has one arm.

[tranquil blade]

[kindred forge]

Shanks GG’s everyone’s future sight haki

With a hidden arm

The best part is

As long as he kills whoever sees it

It’s always a secret baby

[dense haven]

daily reminder rocks can't fight with one arm but shanks can so shanks > rocks confirmed

[kindred forge]

Agree

Shanks > Rocks for a few reasons

Shanks could have ate the Gomu Gomu fruit

He didn’t

He’s so strong that he was like, nah don’t need the weakness

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[jade rain]

I think that's going to tie into the destiny plot for him

[kindred forge]

Or look at shanks himself

He never ate a devil fruit

Im sure he’s seen more than one

[proper fable]

hii i am new tto one piece can anyone tell me who are the giants seen in the skypiea and after Thriller bark any theory?

[kindred forge]

He’s probably held more than one

[kindred forge]

I could tell you

[proper fable]

plz

[kindred forge]

The were rather large

[proper fable]

i am curious

yess the larger ones

[kindred forge]

And shrouded in mist right?

[proper fable]

seen after thriller bark

yeaaa

[kindred forge]

Hmm what else is huge

And shrouded in mist

[graceful grove]

they are Imus parents

[kindred forge]

Wait you don’t know about it yet

[kindred forge]

I can’t spoil it for you bro you just started

[proper fable]

noo as i mentioned I am new

[kindred forge]

You don’t even know 😂

Nah I can’t tell you it’ll spoil another part

[proper fable]

bro pleaseee i am curious

i will love to been spoiled

[kindred forge]

They are creatures similar to zunesha

They move as a pack

Zunesha moves alone

[graceful grove]

why don't u spoil us xd

[proper fable]

the anime is crazyyy I am really having fun what an thrill emotions story plotting lovely

[kindred forge]

Zunesha is like a giant elephant that just walks the ocean.

[proper fable]

ohhhhhhh

[kindred forge]

So those creatures are somehow related to Zunesha

Because they give off the same shrouded effect

But because there is more of them grouped up the shroud is thicker

[proper fable]

yeaaaa

[brittle basin]

This arrived in the mail today.

[proper fable]

https://youtu.be/JY0kiu3ju5I?si=jt9UkuarJHoRqBAN

this video i got

[proper fable]

wooohhh crazyy

[proper fable]

Arigato Brother

[kindred forge]

I can answer anything about one piece brother

[rose rune]

is that some kind of foreign language? I don't understand it

[brittle basin]

@runic dock got the Fan Letter card.

[kindred forge]

I know what the one piece itself already is 🥲 no worries. I won the real life race to figure it out 🥲

[brittle basin]

it's my OC language for my worldbuilding project. please don't steal.

[runic dock]

Nice! I got two new “magazine rares” lol

One sec

[proper fable]

could it be friends made along the path?

[kindred forge]

https://tenor.com/view/so-close-keegan-michael-key-saturday-night-live-almost-you-almost-had-it-gif-21622326

[brittle basin]

release the information

[kindred forge]

Open your books to chapter 5

[proper fable]

friends Journey crew......

[runic dock]

Crotch shot Franky

[kindred forge]

Alright class open your books to chapter 5

[blazing depot]

I thought the tangerine on Nami’s head with a head bump

[runic dock]

lol

[brittle basin]

oh shit i like the franky crotch shot lmaaoooo. i need this one now next to my cola franky.

[proper fable]

sameeeeeee

[runic dock]

These two would be from the latest one piece card game 3rd anniversary complete guide

[runic dock]

Not the official op magazine

[brittle basin]

i know what to look for now

[runic dock]

Every one piece card game complete guide magazine also comes with free cards

As well as the op magazine

[brittle basin]

this one?

[blazing depot]

Woah mama

[runic dock]

Yep there are 3 as of now

[brittle basin]

i'm gonna check to see if our Little Tokyo has it. aside from this Fan Letter book and another card in the mail, i've stopped using ebay due to a $30 tariff i was going to be mailed for a $5 card i ordered (and then cancelled after the fact).

[kindred forge]

I released the information

[blazing depot]

Prices these days are insane

[brittle basin]

it's a dolphin. poggers

[blazing depot]

I tried to DoorDash a McDonald’s burger and fries and the total was 28 after fees and delivery

[kindred forge]

First of all that dolphin probably represents Oda but if it doesn’t it represents the dolphin queen

[runic dock]

Oh hell naw, I didn’t realize tariffs affected that stuff already , just stick to the local shops yeah , as far as I’m aware the magazines are still the same price with usual mark up in person

[kindred forge]

Second it’s not the dolphin

[brittle basin]

i stopped using all of those food delivery services. genuinely criminal prices

[blazing depot]

Honestly same

[graceful grove]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046

[blazing depot]

It’s a scam

[kindred forge]

What’s the title

[brittle basin]

go oooooon

[kindred forge]

What does the title say

[runic dock]

They think they can get away with shit now that Covid era is over nobody rich like that anymore lol

[kindred forge]

Oda also illustrated 5 characters

[brittle basin]

i now don't have my awesome HIbari full art cause of this shit. woe is me.

[kindred forge]

3 dolphins and luffy and zoro.

[brittle basin]

oh wait wrong reply earl sorry

but also true

[kindred forge]

Who is the pirate king in chapter 5?

[wet condor]

The fact that Shanks is one-armed is one of the best things about him

[kindred forge]

He’s not tho

[wet condor]

Rocks could only gain more aura if he was a one-armed swordsman

[kindred forge]

Shanks has both arms

[brittle basin]

me no know

[wet condor]

I am confused

[kindred forge]

He chooses to use one

[wet condor]

Are you a Haki arm believer?

[brittle basin]

i am

[kindred forge]

Close enough. Not quite haki

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-alice-in-wonderland-the-white-rabbit-look-at-this-time-is-ticking-gif-17400057

Rocks fans

Clocks ticking

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/nowww-gif-574729419756850989

[wet condor]

I don't understand

[kindred forge]

Let’s just say even shanks has made mistakes.

His biggest mistake is why he is so kind

[graceful grove]

no one knows what he talks about

[kindred forge]

Read a title

[graceful grove]

i miss spice

[kindred forge]

Brother

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/head-cannon-megatron-decepticons-transformers-torq3-gif-16222678

[brittle basin]

Tree, my man, you are operating on another plane of existence. This is 2deep4me.

[kindred forge]

One piece goes deeper than that

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/spice-spicysad-squad-talk-man-beard-gif-16942488

[kindred forge]

Who is the strongest character in all of OP? Who has the best feats as a stand alone character?

[brittle basin]

WB. My answer is biased.

[kindred forge]

One piece is the opposite.

[kindred forge]

Not even close

Whitebeard gets one shot

No diff

[brittle basin]

it's so over for me

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/youhavechosen-indianajones-lastcrusade-chosen-choose-gif-14225991833513791175

[kindred forge]

https://tenor.com/view/ryuma-monster-103-gif-5487420288375468923

[frosty oasis]

Alright bravo

[kindred forge]

I hope we get more Ryuma shit

Because compared to Ryuma everyone else is fodder

[graceful grove]

don't tell me, your favorite anime is demon slayer

[kindred forge]

Nerona Imu holds the power to erase countries. Never did it to Wano. Out of pure fear of causing some crazed maniac from Wano killing them later.

[graceful grove]

umm. he just got the juice for it

[kindred forge]

Not even close. The government did the void century. Nerona Imu is the government.

[timber glacier]

Or it was just plot

[kindred forge]

Or shirano was a god knight.

And got sent to hell in one tap no diff.

Biggest feat in series so far

Oda did say shirano was a master swordsman and one of the best.

[graceful grove]

imu didn't wipe out syrup village because he wanted readers to suffer for calling him an incel

[timber glacier]

That jobber

[kindred forge]

Ryuma was that much better.

[brittle basin]

the biggest ongoing feat in the series is Magellan's bowel movements

[kindred forge]

One shotted

[frosty oasis]

Magellan fan spotted

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/you're-welcome-criminal-minds-gold-dragon-s17e1-no-problem-gif-9328267309180854677

[kindred forge]

You ever seen another character with that weird hand motion using a sword?

[brittle basin]

who is that man?

[graceful grove]

yes, luffy

[kindred forge]

I feel like I’ve seen a character use that exact hand motion while using a sword

https://tenor.com/view/trafalgar-d-water-law-gif-20255346

Weird

[brittle basin]

wait are we posting os panels?

[frosty oasis]

I don’t know what that’s from but if that is the case I’d delete that

[bold sonnet]

That was Ryuma from monsters

Lol

[hazy echo]

@ashen perch did you write this

https://fixupx.com/musingsofohara/status/1978905541192593677?s=46

dai🌸 (@musingsofohara)

one piece heroines you owe me nothing

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FixupX · Oct 16, 2025, 7:27 PM

[ashen perch]

LOL

I need to read that actually

Saw that it was recently translated to English

[frosty oasis]

Oh whoops

[hazy echo]

Yea VIZ got onto it iirc

https://x.com/vizmedia/status/1796577637277544693?s=46

VIZ Media (@VIZMedia)

Announcement: Follow Nami, Robin, Vivi and Perona as the heroines of One Piece go off on their own adventures in this collection of prose short stories! One Piece: Heroines, written by Jun Esaka, created by Eiichiro Oda and illustrations by Sayaka Suwa, releases Spring 2025.

X · May 31, 2024, 4:21 PM

[ashen perch]

Yea, took em a while but they've been getting to doing more additional OP material lately

[hazy echo]

Ye

This one is coming soon

https://x.com/vizmedia/status/1946344284078084375?s=46

VIZ Media (@VIZMedia)

Cover reveal!
One Piece: Law’s Story releases October 28, 2025

Pre-order now: https://t.co/zvZFhbhDeR

X · Jul 18, 2025, 11:00 PM

[brittle basin]

[brittle basin]

it's ok when you and i do it. grandpa privilege.

[rose rune]

[rose rune]

the trick is to pick the best manga no one ever reads

[brittle basin]

picks Fist of the North Star

[rose rune]

queen of heart's abs live rent free in my head

if you can call it abs

ab?

[dense haven]

@olive sigil

[rose rune]

sanjuan loves Law

[olive sigil]

SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

I hate both of you

[brittle basin]

does he hate it?

[frosty oasis]

Sanjuan are you injured where does it hurt

[brittle basin]

he's going to point to the server itself

i personally have a voodoo doll of Oda i point to

[olive sigil]

the eyes

every time I see anything related to that guy, my eyes hurts, I vomit, my head hurts and I start punching walls

[frosty oasis]

Wtf man

I missed out on the lore

What’s the disdain for

[brittle basin]

smh i like Law

[blazing mantle]

Sanjuan hates law

[lofty fern]

😍

I still haven't read it

[blazing mantle]

Is it canon

[lofty fern]

Excitement

[brittle basin]

it's canon if i like it and non-canon if i hate it

[lofty fern]

Kinda canon

Like the ace ones

[blazing mantle]

I can’t argue with this logic

Go read it for me

[wet condor]

We basically already know Law's story

[blazing mantle]

Not enough people felt bad for him so he’s making up more stuff

[wet condor]

Some of it might be interesting though. But I care less about something dedicated to his

Give me Kidd's story

[lofty fern]

This one is just for San Juan

[brittle basin]

i can't read though....

[blazing mantle]

A real one piece fan…

[wet condor]

I like Ace as a character but I don't really care about reading his novels either lol

[blazing mantle]

🥹

[frosty oasis]

Give me liberty give me fire give me useless kid’s backstory

[lofty fern]

There wasn't enough material

[brittle basin]

He did. In the SBS.

[wet condor]

Oh there's plenty

[frosty oasis]

God bless the sbs

[blazing mantle]

His backstory is so unimportant it got relegated to the sbs

[frosty oasis]

Gotta love him

It is kinda funny

[blazing mantle]

Who is this guy bruh

[frosty oasis]

It’s Oda!

[blazing mantle]

I don’t think he looks like that

[frosty oasis]

That’s the thing

[blazing mantle]

Why are most mangaka allergic to having their face shown

Except araki

[pine ridge]

they're ugly

[frosty oasis]

So they don’t get bullied surely

[wet condor]

A man born in a war torn country ruled by various gangs, constantly living under with his life under threat, who eventually snaps after the woman he loves dies and subsequently conquers his home

[blazing mantle]

😭

[wet condor]

Would've reigned as the king if he hadn't left

But has no interest in ruling

[blazing mantle]

This backstory is mid

Try better

[wet condor]

It's crazy

[brittle basin]

fans being toxic I assume

[wet condor]

[blazing mantle]

Tell them to toughen up

[olive sigil]

Buffy???? What is wrong with you. Someone call an ambulance

[wet condor]

I'm trying to see these island wide gang wars

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/the-urge-to-kill-is-too-strong-kill-need-to-kill-must-kill-urge-to-kill-gif-20747644

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/call-an-ambulance-but-not-for-me-but-not-for-me-call-an-ambulance-gif-13987821127347517247

[ornate tartan]

even ppl in japan don’t know how oda looks

[blazing mantle]

The only mangaka I would probably bully is Fujimoto

[brittle basin]

I would be honored to be annihilated by a Dalek.

[wet condor]

Kidd executing his opps. Vendettas >>>

[pine ridge]

honestly being famous without the downsides of being constantly recognized on the streets sounds nice

[wet condor]

He's a one of the better characters in the story

He'd make it in my top 30 p easily

Top 20 prob

[blazing mantle]

Don’t be famous if you don’t wanna be famous

[wet condor]

Riches but no fame >>>>>>

[vapid needle]

japanese fans are next level tho

[lofty fern]

If that was actually his story, it actually would be interesting. If he was actually that dynamic, that is

[pine ridge]

why not if you can

[wet condor]

That's what it was according to the SBS lol

[olive sigil]

The Seth McFarlane special

[brittle basin]

Being born a rich nepo baby but no one knows you>>>>>>>

[lofty fern]

Yeah, but dial it back to like-2

[wet condor]

It's not even any embellishment really. That's what happened lol

The goofiest part is it was over a woman who's name was "broth splatterina"

[lofty fern]

The SBS version was about as deep as it's going to be

Though if Oda decides to ever bring him back from the dead dead, then maybe we could get an extra chapter to his life

[wet condor]

[vapid needle]

call me crazy but if you can be rich without people sending you death threats thats even better

[wet condor]

I can't wait for a year from now

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/vegapunk-one-piece-ai-egghead-scientist-gif-5242202447918666069

[frosty oasis]

Sb wtf

[lofty fern]

Vega punk will never translate well to live action

Not without some changes

[glass plume]

don't worry we won't get it in live action

highly doubt that we'll make it past skypiea

[pine scaffold]

They might gotta make him look ''normal''

[thick mango]

I think we will. But not much further

[pine scaffold]

cuz its just gonna look so cursed

[lofty fern]

You think we can get all the way to egghead?

[thick mango]

Unless skypeia bombs they'll do w7/ennies

No def not

[pine scaffold]

well the OPLA is scheduled for 10+ seasons

[glass plume]

0% chance imo

[pine scaffold]

at the moment

[brittle basin]

it's not

[pine scaffold]

idk where 10 seasons takes us tho

[thick mango]

Nah they optimistically said they'd like to do 10 seasons

It's only approved up to s3 alabasta

[pine scaffold]

oh

I think the big thing with the live action is that people are going to get older

and like

[brittle basin]

once the LA viewers finally realize what we do - that One Piece sucks and Oda is a hack - the dominos will fall

[wraith mantle]

Let’s talk about rocks

[brittle basin]

Wocks

[thick mango]

Yeah it's just moving too slowly for the actors to not age out

[wraith mantle]

Webec

[pine scaffold]

it took 3 years for another season right

[frosty oasis]

Locks

[pine scaffold]

we are gonna be at marineford (maybe) and we might have to get a new Luffy actor lol

[wraith mantle]

Da fuk

[brittle basin]

The LA should integrate Rocks' backstory into season 3

[glass plume]

the live action will eventually start to dry out and that's when they'll either jump on the anime train or manga

[wraith mantle]

Holy cook

[glass plume]

or they just say "too bad" and never look back

[brittle basin]

Finally, OP is good.

[pine scaffold]

One of the best characters I've seen in recent times

in terms of writing, aura and hype

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/brad-and-lex-spittin-facts-spitting-facts-facts-true-gif-22933010

[glass plume]

"in terms of writing" LOL

[pine scaffold]

I like that he doesn't force Harald to join him even tho he could have

[blazing mantle]

I’ve seen TikTok’s of people getting sad that the flashback is almost over and we’re going back to the strawhats

[brittle basin]

Wocks

[glass plume]

they're free to drop out

[pine scaffold]

and then u look here and everyone is celebrating that its over

[wraith mantle]

Wavy W Webec

[pine scaffold]

I would have thought everyone would love GV

maybe some haters but not many

[glass plume]

Xebec has to be one of the most overwanked character in recent times

[pine scaffold]

but nah it seems theres tons of haters

which sucks

[brittle basin]

We will purge the non-believers.

[wraith mantle]

Niggas can’t fathom a hype and aura character is popular lol

[pine scaffold]

I've noticed that people who have been following the series longer appreciate it more tho 🤔

(Not me tho I only caught up with Wano)

[brittle basin]

It's just neat. The lore is neat, the characters are neat, the event is neat.

[pine scaffold]

There are some critiques I have but its not anything crazy

like I wish we got to see a bit more

but its fine, we got good stuff anyway

[frosty oasis]

Neat

But could use some more meat

[glass plume]

meh, it's fine i guess

[brittle basin]

Oda is on the endgame grind to finish the series sooner rather than later.

he knows he's getting older

[frosty oasis]

No time to die

[pine scaffold]

Yeah I don't think he really wants to stay in GV for a long time, hes just going through the main beats

[signal fiber]

People point out easily fixable things as why the show can't work. Just imply longer travel time between islands, hence aging. The real problem is keeping all these actors in the show for 20 years

[glass plume]

it's so unnecessary to place God Valley here

[pine scaffold]

getting GV out the way now is a good thing

[glass plume]

in the middle of Elbaph

[pine scaffold]

it makes sense why we have GV tbh

there is Domi reversi going on in GV

and we are dealing with allat rn

[pine ridge]

it makes perfect sense

[signal fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/this-might-be-an-unpopular-opinion-unpopular-opinion-opinions-cosmopolitan-cosmopolitan-gif-gif-13118400

[pine ridge]

like everything about elbaf kinda screamed god valley flashback

[pine scaffold]

Imu is a major figure in GV and current day

so yeah

[glass plume]

it would've made sense if we would've only gotten the parts where Harald interacted with Xebec yeah

[brittle basin]

i'm confident oda put GV here to bring it back around to both current Loki and the fact Imu is in Elbaf.

[pine scaffold]

we are gonna learn some stuff on how the SH can win

[frosty oasis]

Give me Harald

[wraith mantle]

The god valley flashback makes me think we are going to get a Garp arc soon

[glass plume]

Harald is leages better of a character than Xebec imo

he has actual depth

[frosty oasis]

I am much more interested in him than Rocks as of now

[brittle basin]

I'm guessing we don't have time for a Garp arc unless it's an Ace-MF style rescue arc. But even that is a theory that feels like time wasting when we have more important things to get to.

[signal fiber]

I'm confident he put it here because he needs to sorting out plot points

[pine scaffold]

Oda realised its the prefect opportunity to go through GV rn and just get it out the way

[glass plume]

Xebec just feels shallow, lol

[pine ridge]

nah god valley made sense even before the rocks harald thing

[glass plume]

"hey, here is your new hype man!"

[wraith mantle]

xebec will get depth

Just gotta wait for bb’s fb

[pine scaffold]

he has tons of depth already tbh

[signal fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/contrarians-quick-silver-running-marvel-hero-contra-is-released-gif-17710133

[wraith mantle]

Fucking fat bb ruining my goat introduction

[frosty oasis]

[blazing depot]

Times ticking for Rocks agenda

Tick tock

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-alice-in-wonderland-the-white-rabbit-look-at-this-time-is-ticking-gif-17400057

[glass plume]

i'm genuine when i say this, this isn't just be a contrarian

[frosty oasis]

Can you post the thing

Thanks LOL

[pine ridge]

rocks is great but he's pretty shallow and it's why a flashback fits him

[glass plume]

i genuinely find Xebec to be a shallow "cool" character

like there's no denying he is cool, but what is he more?

[frosty oasis]

He’s cool, like you guys have said

Hype and aura type character

[pine ridge]

you dont need depth for a character who only appears for like 20 chapters

[glass plume]

i expected way more from Xebec

[grand flower]

It's going to show us how to counter the regeneration, which will be applied in the present

[glass plume]

especially after this humongus build up

[grand flower]

We haven't gotten the pay off yet

[brittle basin]

the agenda has already succeeded

[blazing mantle]

The duality of man

[blazing depot]

It will crash

[signal fiber]

He's a dead guy in a flashback, who was strong, hates the injustice of the world order and loves his family. That's a good amount for a temporary character

[pine ridge]

it's not even over yet

[glass plume]

what pay off will there be atp?

[wraith mantle]

Rocks already thus popular without depth

Imagine when Oda gives him depth

[blazing mantle]

What if he goes out in the coolest way possible like whitebeard

[grand flower]

The conclusion of his character when he dies

[blazing mantle]

And he cements his status as a permanent goat

[wraith mantle]

We on the right side of history

[glass plume]

there's like no possible scenario where I'll change my stance on Xebec just being a cool character rn

[grand flower]

At the conclusion of this flashback

[pine scaffold]

Dawg why is everyone saying Xebec has no depth

😭 🥀

[pine ridge]

cause he doesnt need it

[glass plume]

what will he do at his death which will revolutionize his character?

[signal fiber]

Rocks gonna dance naked for 40 years to save Ivankov. That's where he's been

[wraith mantle]

Oda saw sung Jin woo and said bet

[blazing mantle]

They think he only has hype moments and aura

[wraith mantle]

I can do it but better

[glass plume]

what else does he have?

[blazing mantle]

Don’t compare rocks to that bum

[pine scaffold]

he does have this but he is also written well

[blazing mantle]

He has a family

[fast pagoda]

Cant wait for Rocks to twerk for Gunko

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/sung-jin-woo-solo-leveling-murderous-stance-aura-gif-11407273526344014249

[fast pagoda]

Its gonna be so peak

[glass plume]

oh how original

lmfao

[blazing mantle]

I know right

He’s goated

[urban lodge]

Oh nice Rocks hating time?

[final trench]

You cannot change a haters mind

[blazing mantle]

He also had a rough breakup with Harald

[signal fiber]

Comradery, familial love, legacy etc.

[glass plume]

i'm not even hating on him

[blazing mantle]

💔

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/elbaph-rocks-rocks-one-piece-rocks-d-xebec-xebec-gif-7921250111547198384

[wraith mantle]

Aite penny and brach at the same time?

[blazing mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-rabbit-alice-gif-9929725

[wraith mantle]

Time to switch topics

[blazing mantle]

Don’t get so cocky penny

[glass plume]

couldn't even let him be the villain he was made up to be

[pine ridge]

not much of a legacy

[fast pagoda]

Im saying

[blazing mantle]

Hurry up

Lunko

[wraith mantle]

Who’s the final villain

Bb or Imu?

[blazing depot]

Why did Imu want Vivi?

[blazing mantle]

Blackbeard

Isn’t it obvious

[final trench]

Shes a nefertari

[brittle basin]

Rocks is just a cool fella with insane ambitions and the power to kind of see those ambitions through arguably.

[final trench]

And she looks like lily

[signal fiber]

BB gonna be a pretty big legacy, also apparently everyone over 40 has a relationship with him

[fast pagoda]

He likes girls with big foreheads

[glass plume]

yes he is a cool guy

but that's all

[blazing mantle]

He really is Oda

[brittle basin]

if it's not the incel route, there could be something in her bloodline

[signal fiber]

If you thought he was gonna be what Sengoku said you don't read OP

[wraith mantle]

Imu is not an incel

[final trench]

Lily was the forest god

[wraith mantle]

Else he would kidnapped Shakky

[pine ridge]

yeah but those same people always talk about how great roger was. they dont even talk about rocks

[glass plume]

i mean i certainly was expecting him be a proper villain, the worst of the worst

[wraith mantle]

Or gloriosa

[brittle basin]

Rocks more than anything was charasmatic. it was flowing from him when he would talk to Harald.

[final trench]

True

[leaden rivet]

What if he doesn’t like Shakky?

[blazing depot]

Also it’s a common theme in stories

[glass plume]

the thought of a pirate who was so cruel that even other pirates cowered below him was the coolest idea

[blazing depot]

The evil overlord kidnaps the princess

Bowser and Peach

[glass plume]

but instead Oda made it a friend group, lol

[blazing depot]

Ganon and Zelda

[leaden rivet]

Imu can’t literally be an incel anyway he can have so many woman he’s the king of the world

[wraith mantle]

Gloriosa or boa

[leaden rivet]

What if he doesn’t like either?

[wraith mantle]

Hmm

Very picky incel

[signal fiber]

I genuinely think the only out for Oda at this point is for someone here to have Puddings fruit, how do none of these currently active characters remember GV or Rocks

[leaden rivet]

What if he likes hard buff men

[mental lake]

probably has eyes only for vivi and titi

[leaden rivet]

What if he likes hairy women?

[final trench]

Is he gonna use vivis body to get men

[blazing mantle]

TWIN

[leaden rivet]

What if he looks lunarian woman?

[fast pagoda]

I like that Rocks is morally ambiguous

[wraith mantle]

That would be a funny gag

[leaden rivet]

[final trench]

Arent they probably dead

[fast pagoda]

Aanyone who thinks he not getting domi'd is coping

[pine ridge]

they do remember but for some reason they thought roger was the man

[blazing mantle]

[glass plume]

you mean like almost every pirate out there

[final trench]

King is in his 30s so theres probably some still around

[blazing mantle]

Unc

[leaden rivet]

Yes

[final trench]

Yea he’s like 36-37

[blazing mantle]

Oda loves making every character middle aged

[urban lodge]

Domi Reversi'd Rocks sucks ass but it's what I'm expecting at this point

[wraith mantle]

The smell of bonfire is therapy

[signal fiber]

The main reason is Oda didn't think of Rocks yet, but I wonder if there will be an in story one

[glass plume]

that would make it even worse, considering the cut-away dialogue we'd get

[brittle basin]

it's either Rocks getting Domi'd or Roger and Garp because they lack the conqueror's haki to withstand it (or did Oda show them with conq already in this flashback?)

[blazing mantle]

Probably the first one

[glass plume]

there would be no intrigue between the conversations it would just be

"Woah what happened Xebec, how did he turn into this monster..!"

[final trench]

They should have conquers arp

[blazing mantle]

Oda is killing me with all these breaks bruh

[urban lodge]

Can't have sweet innocent angel Rocks doing anything evil by himself

[brittle basin]

Roger and Garp getting domi'd may affect their memories of God Valley too

[blazing mantle]

He broke baby Lokis leg

[final trench]

True

[pine ridge]

I'm expecting that, rocks trying to kill dragon and shanks as revenge or rocks roger and garp teaming up against imu

[blazing mantle]

Sorry that’s not enough for you penny

[grand flower]

idk what to tell you tbh. We don't even know how many chapters are left. I think it's kinda wild that we haven't seen his story conclude but you've decided your perception of him can't be changed as though Oda can't throw us curveballs

[final trench]

Maybe thats why he chooses not to speak on it, he was controlled

[blazing mantle]

I know you like characters that kill children with a straight face

[fast pagoda]

Do any of yall think Baby Loki would beat current Hajrudin

[urban lodge]

It is enough for me but not for most fans

[wraith mantle]

He stabbed kid Loki

[final trench]

He could probably high diff him

[brittle basin]

Oda gave the illusion via WG propaganda that Rocks was pure evil. Was that it to a T? or am I misremembering?

[glass plume]

i just have a hard time of seeing anything make him more interesting

[wraith mantle]

He’s done plenty evil

[signal fiber]

Do you think baby Loki could beat Machvise?

[glass plume]

the Davy clan stuff was already kinda stupid imo

[final trench]

He’s done evil shit but you niggas worry about the wrong things

[blazing depot]

How it feels being a Rocks hater

[glass plume]

especially considering that the World Government should know that Blackbeard is a member

[final trench]

So it dont matter

[blazing depot]

I’m the mouse

[pine scaffold]

''no depth 🥀''

[fast pagoda]

That's auraful

[leaden rivet]

Sometimes I hate all of you

[mental lake]

which makes it all the more strange that his name got erased from history

[leaden rivet]

Anyway

[fast pagoda]

TRUTH NUKE

[brittle basin]

I don't know if he has. Even his supposed attacks of organizations and towns, etc. may have been corrupt based on the initial group he attacked knowing they were corrupt. The two things about him that can make you directly question his morals is his two attacks on Loki and the fact he wants to usurp Imu.

[urban lodge]

"Depth" and he's like a puddle deep

[pine ridge]

wow he has a friend and a family

[blazing depot]

You ain’t gotta like it cuz the hood gon love it

[final trench]

Vohaha

[glass plume]

Rebecca has more depth than this, lol

[fast pagoda]

Gunko stabbing Colon in the neck was auraful im so sorry

[leaden rivet]

Most one piece characters aren’t really over flowing in depth

[grand flower]

We also see him being more vicious than was needed in the davy back games

[leaden rivet]

Rocks is a good character I would say

[ionic palm]

history is decided by the victors, one of the oldest "policies" of mankind

[grand flower]

He decapitated a guy lol

[leaden rivet]

He’s just far too prevalent in this flashback

And I would prefer he never existed

[grand flower]

Rocks deadass cut someone's head off in the davy back and blew up the other boat in the donut race

Oda isn't hiding he's a bad guy

[urban lodge]

The problem is Oda doesn't focus on any of that

[brittle basin]

Rocks has enough depth to make him an enjoyable character to read about. Pretty simple and to the point.

[urban lodge]

Except attacking Loki

[final trench]

Yea with an axe

[glass plume]

some fans love to hide that

[brittle basin]

are you sure about the former?

i need a panel

[mental lake]

[grand flower]

1. If you see it happen, it's really on you to internalize that

2. This kinda goes to what I said to Brachy but I'm sure that's on purpose and we'll see that with the conclusion of his character

[signal fiber]

Croc committed genocide and we're all cool with him because he saved Luffy in the war. Characters can be evil and likable

[wraith mantle]

Huh? Really?

[brittle basin]

Does each Davy Back Fight come with its own stipulations and rules to how you have to "defeat" an opponent?

[final trench]

Rocks has done bad shit yall just ignore and whine because he’s cool

Thats really it

[solid mantle]

chop chop

[final trench]

Yall wanna hate a character simply because everyone likes him

[restive wedge]

Yasopp sneaked Barto's crew and Shanks was like "ok" the only true good character in One Piece is Kuma and look at what happened to him

[mental lake]

It's funny how in their final moments whitebeard , big mom , and kaido all talked about roger but didn't really mention their old captain rocks at all

[glass plume]

like i said i don't hate Xebec

[thick mango]

He hasn't done anything that bad grading on a pirate curve. But pirates are generally bad yes

[glass plume]

i just don't find him as intriguing as some do

[urban lodge]

I really want that but with the way he's been handled I kinda lost hope

[wraith mantle]

Rocks is the most controversial character of all time

[mental lake]

Yoo nash cool pfp

[ionic palm]

I dont think anyone is genuinely denying Rocks did horrible shit. But there is still depth etc about him since he can be seen as a major catalyst for current events to this day.

[grand flower]

oh my god

[blazing depot]

My issue is more people glazing meat riding and saying Rocks is the goodest guy ever

[solid mantle]

thanks

[brittle basin]

Again, I'm not sure how much "evil" Rocks had done nor how much it matters to his overall character and goals.

[blazing depot]

Specifically Ohara

[pine ridge]

yeah he has enough depth for a character who's only gonna be in focus for 20 ish chapters

[urban lodge]

Shuron you have to admit Oda has been doing a whole lot more of telling and not showing with the bad stuff he's done

[signal fiber]

He just took his hat off

[ionic palm]

Im tempted to believe Rocks is morally gray as a character but at the same time, not really.

[brittle basin]

oh damn i completely missed this. that's some grade-A pirate behavior

[thick mango]

He's like kid levels of bad. But more successful

[solid mantle]

Do not talk about him without his attorney present

[grand flower]

And I think it's worth internalizing why that's the case

[wraith mantle]

Also i dont understand why yall want rocks to be evil so bad

Its actually kinda cool how we experienced the WG propaganda the way the average joe in universe does

[mental lake]

I'm still confused on what bro is doing here

[glass plume]

most of the pirates are "good" to some extent atp

[ionic palm]

tbf, he is "evil". Just not to the extent that the WG is making it out to be.

[glass plume]

having a bad evil pirate would've been cooler

[grand flower]

Decapitated a guy with an axe

[blazing depot]

BECAUSE ITS MORE INTERESTING THATS WHY

[restive wedge]

Rocks is def evil but he's not WG evil

[grand flower]

He also blew up the other ship in the donut race

[glass plume]

no one is WG evil, lol

[mental lake]

Ohh ok thanks for clarifying

[trim lily]

i think shuron's theory was that rocks appearing not that bad was intentional as a contrast to something later, but i really cant see that being the case now

[solid mantle]

ngl I can't wait to see what toei does with this one, given that they didn't even ripped half of WB head off

[urban lodge]

It's just weird ass presentation for a guy who wants to replace Imu

[grand flower]

He and the WG employed the same tactics when entering Elbaph: Hurting children

[trim lily]

i dont think he even does want to at this point

[glass plume]

as soon as i saw Xebec talk about his wife and kid i knew he wouldn't be "evil" lol

[trim lily]

he might just want to take down imu

[urban lodge]

He said he does

To Harald

[trim lily]

he said he wants 'the world' right? but then he also calls imu the world

[grand flower]

He literally tells us that he doesn't care for the lives of anyone on Me Valley except Eris and Teach, and the text was bolded, but you guys are just ignoring all that implies

[glass plume]

Oda is doing his absolutely hardest to make Xebec likable and genuinely admirable

[restive wedge]

Rocks aint own no slave children and doesn't intend to

[mental lake]

🛶 🔫 🪨

[glass plume]

i don't think he'll just flip it

[urban lodge]

He says he wants to be king of the world too

[signal fiber]

They're in love

[trim lily]

feels like everything around him has just been implications and hearsay

[grand flower]

Text like this is bolded when you're meant to pay attention to it

[strong wadi]

Needs to be king of the world so his family can live in peace

[grand flower]

And you guys just..,aren't

[leaden rivet]

Be so fr Shuron

You know damn well that’s not comparable lol

[glass plume]

the most stupid thing from this flashback imo, is that they knew of the Davy clan being passed down through Teach and yet they haven't done shit to persue him?

[brittle basin]

This will always be the thing I focus on. I don't know if this is supposed to be innocent places and people that Rocks targeted or not. On the surface you would think so, but it's also so unbelievably strange that the only organization we see Rocks and crew messing up was an organization BM knew was corrupt (of which the corrupt individuals admitted to in the chapter). I assume all of this still happened as it's the narrator saying it and not some Marine higher up like Sengoku.

[wraith mantle]

I think we have had plenty of just plain evil pirates

I think rocks is one of the few potentially morally grey ones

[trim lily]

yes of course xebec doesnt care about what happens to the other people on god valley, why would he

hes not a hero

[grand flower]

He's a wanted pirate...

[blazing depot]

They were evil civilians it was justified

[urban lodge]

[blazing depot]

Rocks had a right to defend himself

[thick mango]

im expecting that he might do really wild things to protect his wife and kid, to pay off on like the "I dont care about the rest" but I think thats just true of most parents

[restive wedge]

tbf there were probably more evil people on God Valley than good ones since all the innocents are probably dead by now

[glass plume]

yes, so instead of cutting him down they do business with him

[grand flower]

Alright man, when Rocks starts doing stuff that endangers the lives of innocent people, just don't be surprised

[pine ridge]

did they always know that?

[signal fiber]

Some people are saying each of the 3 worlds in the Harley were 3 people in Imus position. The Imu figure, The Dragon, and the Snake. Maybe the position is important and necessary and Rocks was trying to create the 4th world

[glass plume]

the world government really aren't the brightest

[trim lily]

you misunderstand, thats what i want the most out of him

[thick mango]

I think a lot of parents would endager innocent people to protect their children

[grand flower]

Oh you know that they knew then?

[trim lily]

ill be very pleased if i see that

[grand flower]

"if"

[wraith mantle]

Clearly they don’t know that teach is Davy

[trim lily]

i cant share the same faith you have in oda unfortunately

[glass plume]

i think it's an safe assumption no?

[brittle basin]

That's the thing, I have no idea (unless that was a sarcastic response then lol) at the end of the day. Either Oda wants us to read between the lines or he meant for this to show Rocks was a bastard through and through. Either answer is a possibility though I personally think that from all I've seen of Rocks, it would be him targeting the corrupt.

[wraith mantle]

Or they knew very recently

[grand flower]

No

[trim lily]

its a bit annoying we havent really seen this king of the world thing come up again

[grand flower]

They know that today

Did they know that 2 years ago?

Probably not

[wraith mantle]

Yeah

[blazing depot]

I think Rocks will go full mask off upon seeing Imu

[glass plume]

i think they probably did know

[blazing depot]

He’s getting that job

[wraith mantle]

I don’t think they knew until maybe after he left the warlords

[pine ridge]

maybe they did maybe they didnt

[trim lily]

now that gunko isnt around imu he can finally fight

[glass plume]

what job?

[mental lake]

🪦

[blazing depot]

KING OF THE WORLD

https://tenor.com/view/im-king-of-the-world-jack-dawson-leonardo-dicaprio-fabrizio-titanic-gif-20723447

[brittle basin]

this is the main panel (again, aside from Loki attacks) that should make you question his morals. Why does he want to take Imu's throne? Does he just want to rule the weak like Kaido? Does he think he can do a better and more righteous job than Imu? Does he just want to replace Imu and exploit the world and own slaves, etc?

[restive wedge]

Please warn us before you start discussing about those j words

[glass plume]

Xebec died, so i'm afraid not

[wraith mantle]

I would like to think the WG is slightly competent

[wraith mantle]

What j word

[trim lily]

im assuming we'll get another flashback for xebec showing his motivation

[grand flower]

The entire point of Teach moving like this was probably so they WOULDN'T know he was a Davy

[brittle basin]

wait. please no.

[trim lily]

or he just explains it here in this one

[pine scaffold]

its probably some sort of revenge for the Davy Clan

[mental lake]

Most of the time they are their own worst enemy

[trim lily]

it just being a simple revenge/avenge plot is so boring

[keen quiver]

The world govt is stupid

[urban lodge]

He wants to be king of the world so he can make sure every stray puppy is adopted

[graceful belfry]

Yucky

[glass plume]

i still think the World Government would know given that they saw Xebec protect Teach on God Valley

[brittle basin]

that's a good reason and I can agree with it. but what does he want to do with this power outside simply revenge? once he's gotten his revenge, what then?

[pine scaffold]

BRUH yall are haters I swear

😭

[trim lily]

[grand flower]

How in the world would they know that baby is Teach

[pine scaffold]

Nobody was like this during Egghead wtf

[trim lily]

cmon sb you know thats not true

[brittle basin]

he's gonna behead Boa's bloodline

[keen quiver]

They turned his grandpa and great grandma into demons, killed his father and his mother ?

And the revenge is yucky ?

[trim lily]

you were there for how discussion was like around the broadcast

[restive wedge]

The Oda disbelievers came out full force after Wano ended

[mental lake]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-detector-lier-trending-gif-6708574292361340617

[keen quiver]

Teach is absolutely justified to crash out on imu

[pine ridge]

I dont think it's revenge as much as just wanting to change the world in a way that benefits the davy clan

[urban lodge]

That dumbass 2 year old does NOT remember his grandparents

[glass plume]

Blackbeard better have something more planned than just "muhaha revenge"

[graceful belfry]

Blackbeard being solely motivated by a desire for revenge is booty butt cheeks, yes

[trim lily]

apparently babies in one piece are built different

[pine scaffold]

OK besides the broadcast didnt everyone like Egghead

[keen quiver]

Penny doing anything to discredit teach

[pine scaffold]

nobody was getting mad over the Garp stuff

wanting it to be over

[restive wedge]

Garp's just the GOAT unlike bozo Rocks

[brittle basin]

It's probably to fulfill or finish what Rocks started. Their goals are more or less the same after all.

[wraith mantle]

I was mad over the Kidd stuff

Took too long

[trim lily]

blackbeard's motivation probably (hopefully?) isnt revenge considering hes doing a similar thing to what the WG did

[glass plume]

if Blackbeard motivation is just revenge, it would be so sad

[keen quiver]

Stays to work in an organization that commits genocide every 3 years for the next 40 years
the goat

Pick one

[wraith mantle]

Oda won’t fumble the final villain of the series

Let’s all relax

[brittle basin]

I'm on the revenge train for BB until more info comes out. His ship is the "Saber of Xebec" and he wants "The World."

[glass plume]

i doubt that Blackbeard is the final villain

[wraith mantle]

He’s gotta be

[keen quiver]

Unless he says they stopped doing the hunting game post gv

[thick mango]

Revenge is too noble for bb

[wraith mantle]

He’s been built up the entire show

[trim lily]

im so hyped for shrigmo, the force controlling imu from above

[glass plume]

it would be a massive fumble to throw all of the 800 year intrigue away for a revenge story

[brittle basin]

I used to think Imu was the final villain. But the flashback has changed my opinion to BB.

[restive wedge]

Garp only genocides the ones that deserve it, because that's how GOAT he is

[wraith mantle]

The last lunarian

[keen quiver]

He was here way before imu

Way way way before

[pine scaffold]

BB is an OG character

Imu is fairly new

[blazing depot]

I wouldn’t be shocked if Imu is dealt with this arc

[glass plume]

Imu is still leagues more important to the general history of the world, even if Blackbeard was introduced before

[keen quiver]

Even if you pull the he's been there for 800+ years

Doesn't mean shit

[grand flower]

I like the way you think, but Dragon isn't here yet

[glass plume]

Imu has been the overshadowing threat since day 1, even if we didn't know it back then

[blazing depot]

Brother

[keen quiver]

Narratively he's tied to the history of the world

[blazing depot]

Imu wasn’t foreshadowed in the first chapter

[fallen meteor]

shrigmo jobs to gorilla D. Fluffy tho

[keen quiver]

Which both luffy and bb will topple

[trim lily]

this arc for sure dragon arrives

[glass plume]

it does mean a lot, considering that the whole history is about Joyboy against Imu atp

Nika against oppression etc

[keen quiver]

And the Davy clan now

[brittle basin]

BB was there before Imu, but I think after 1000 chapters it started to wane for me, especially after Imu was introduced. I was confident Oda was gonna sidestep BB for Imu (while keeping BB a laugh tale opponent). Now with the Rocks flashback, i'm more confident than ever that BB is the final villain.

[glass plume]

i don't think they'll play as big of a part as you believe

[graceful belfry]

I understand if revenge is one component of his motivations. It’s only reasonable. However, I’d like Teech to retain a level of distinctiveness, and stripping all of his intrigue back to just a glorified revenge scheme would be a lot more boring than having him retain character qualities that allow him to feel like a character who functions completely on his own, without Xebec and God Valley being the sole battery in his back

[keen quiver]

The Davy thing was a fucking nuclear bomb

To people thinking teach wouldnt be important

[urban lodge]

Nuclear bomb of shit

[mental lake]

I wonder what garp is going to do now . He's seeing this attrocity for the first time , so maybe this moment could inspire him to create the sword organization . The next few decisions he makes within this flashback could be crucial to how people perceive him as a character.

[glass plume]

Blackbeard embodies a kind of freedom, just like Luffy
while Imu embodies oppression to the highest degree, compeltely opposite to both of them

[pine scaffold]

Notice how Oda is fine with revealing Imu's powers now

[keen quiver]

It was mad funny watching people scramble trying to explain it away

[pine scaffold]

Imu being revealed more and more is a bad sign tbh

[keen quiver]

Then the next 2 chapters the world line happened

[urban lodge]

Why didn't he hide the D raaaaaaahhhhhhhh

It's so dumb

[grand flower]

Why are you guys talking about Teach's motivations potentially being solely revenge as though we don't already know he's motivated by insatiable greed

[graceful belfry]

I refuse to believe there was a group of people who thought this but you’re probably right

[glass plume]

i just find it boring really

[grand flower]

But...we already know this won't be the case

[keen quiver]

You see it happens sometimes, its usually people reading with their eyes closed

[glass plume]

greed and revenge fits him sure, but it's really boring to replace the 800+ intrigue that Imu has built up

[restive wedge]

Mfers think he has only one reason even though there's 3 voices in his head

[grand flower]

We already have a motivation that isn't revenge

[urban lodge]

No one thought Teach was unimportant

[grand flower]

Greed and revenge are two different things

Teach being solely revenge is already off the table

Why would you be worried about that

[glass plume]

they are different, but they're both more or less boring imo

[keen quiver]

You can be seeking revenge and greedy

[glass plume]

Teach only wanting to be king of world to satiate his greed, is like... eh

[keen quiver]

These aren't mutually exclusive

[graceful belfry]

Rather than sole, even revenge being the most primary motivating factor for his actions throughout the story is just not that exciting

[glass plume]

i don't like it

[grand flower]

Yeah if Teach ends up seeking revenge that's literally another facet being added to him

[ionic palm]

actually hold on, God Valley's status as an island is still technically unknown since even tho its no longer on maps in the present OP world, it was never said if the island was entirely destroyed or not as of now from that battle royale

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[grand flower]

You guys have a lot of opinions about half-baked story hypotheticals you haven't even seen executed yet

[pine ridge]

you can also just want to finish what someone else started without it being a revenge thing

[brittle basin]

I think there might be some differences only because BB just seems to be so much less than his father, in a bad/evil way - which might affect how he would be if he took over Imu's position. But it seems that with "inherited will" as a strong theme in the series, BB being vengeance focused (look at the horror in his eyes when he was the CDs as a child) on Imu and the CDs makes sense. Even if it's simply revenge, I trust Oda to execute it well.

[glass plume]

i'm just not excited for Teach, Davy or Xebec in general

i don't know why really

i just don't find the intrigue in them

[keen quiver]

Teach and the Davy thing is exciting as hell

[final trench]

Bb is a believer of fate

[keen quiver]

Specially as a bb fan

[graceful belfry]

This is just a description of week to week discussions

[glass plume]

to some yeah, but not to me

[mental lake]

Blackbeard storming mariejois be like :

[keen quiver]

Shame

[grand flower]

Which have been pretty bad the past few years, that's for sure

[final trench]

We get it bro you dont like one piece💔

[ionic palm]

alot of Xebec's actions can technically be seen as one of the main catalysts for many of the current events that occurred in recent times in the OP world, thats what I find intriguing at least.

[keen quiver]

Maybe you'll see our point of view one day and enjoy the Davy reveal too

[final trench]

Honestly after this backstory he might be up there, i hope its dragon tho

[brittle basin]

But it's also hard for me to just call BB "evil" fully. I know he had slaves which is awful enough, but he also clearly is a big believer in dreams and I wonder if he just has a reallly corrupt concept of justice due to his possible desire for revenge.

[restive wedge]

I've been thinking he's going to use BB as the "traitor" of the D clan, with the idea being he's the embodiment of an inherited will that's been twisted over time due to misconceptions built up over time

[final trench]

Dragon bouta beat the shit outta shamrock

[mental lake]

This backstory making me think more and more that it's gonna be blackbeard up there

[final trench]

I mean he was sentenced to death as a child, why not be evill

[grand flower]

I think you guys get a little too invested in how you feel about beats just existing without regard for how a beat being good or bad depends on how the author does it

[glass plume]

sure, but then we have Imu is the literaly catalyst for why they world is like it is and has been for over decades

[pine ridge]

is it a primamry factor? is it even a factor?

[final trench]

Probably how he sees it

[brittle basin]

I forget, did Oda mention a "traitor" in the D clan? Was it in Egghead or some other arc?

[grand flower]

"Revenge is boring" as though two revenge stories can't be WILDLY different is just

[mental lake]

beats ?

[final trench]

Yea

[grand flower]

You're setting yourself up to dislike something regardless of how good it actually is

[restive wedge]

I think it was a theory during Egghead when Vegapunk got cut off but idk exactly

[ionic palm]

albeit in the end, I actually want the flashback to conclude soon because there's something else I want Oda to get into, and its Gunko and Brook's relationship since this is the first time we got a major piece of Brook's past prior to his piracy career, out of everyone in the crew, Brook's the only one with no major backstory prior to his pirate career. Basically the most mysterious member now.

[grand flower]

Story beats. Tropes, narrative devices, all that jazz

[mental lake]

ohhh ok

[final trench]

Bepo/law was on the same side as bb

Water davy law

[grand flower]

I think you're just fucking yourself over with a mindset like "revenge story isn't interesting"

[final trench]

Its forced

[grand flower]

tbvh I agree

[urban lodge]

More isn't always better, I think this would make his motivation weaker

[grand flower]

How does it make his motivation weaker to add another facet to it?

How does that make sense?

[mental lake]

Imo almost any narrative trope can be done well if it's executed in the right way

[brittle basin]

It probably won't be Tarantino levels of good, but I trust Oda to execute it well.

[grand flower]

All of them can be There's no bad trope. Just bad writing

[pine scaffold]

imagine not getting excited over the fact we are gonna see Davy D Jones in the future lol

[glass plume]

i'm just comparing what we have for Teach and Imu and in the end i just find it more interesting with Imu's side of it

[ionic palm]

honestly, revenge stories are often very cliche and often the same and not that original so its understandable that alot aren't really into the trope or kind of storyline.

[brittle basin]

I think with enough context the revenge arc works. And so far we got some compelling context that will probably be further built upon with the inevitable BB flashback

[glass plume]

Imu holds much more mystique and lore compared to Blackbeard imo

[keen quiver]

This is the funniest fucking thing for me lmao. We are going to get more context on Davy jones and more history on the world.

[brittle basin]

yes

imu does

[keen quiver]

Yes and ?

[grand flower]

Blackbeard has more lore actually

[final trench]

Bb aint get his full story yet

[glass plume]

i just find that more interesting personally

[keen quiver]

That doesn't really guarantee anything st this point

[wraith mantle]

tbf i am kinda sick of nepo piece

[final trench]

We’re just now finding out about his father

[brittle basin]

but imu ONLY holds mystique because we know so little about them - mystique for mystique's sake can only work for so long. we need the ancient kingdom flashback to see if Imu lives up to the greatness we've built in our minds.

[wraith mantle]

everyone is related

makes the world feels so small

[final trench]

Relation ≠ nepotism

[mental lake]

Revenge could be interesting for blackbeard as long as it doesn't just engulf / flanderize his character entirely, which I doubt would happen

[ionic palm]

we know iM has more mystique etc, but at the same time, Blackbeard's motivations have been the catalyst for major story implications in the past 2 years to the present day like Ace's death and the collapse of Whitebeard's crew.

[final trench]

Only nepo baby is PROBABLY shamrock

If we keepin it tall

[keen quiver]

Like tae said teach keeps getting more lore and context, the same thing for any other important character. The world chabged drastically in the last 2 years due to teach

[wet condor]

I agree with that everyone being related does make the world feel a bit smaller

[grand flower]

Blackbeard is responsible for Shanks and Whitebeard meeting, Shanks and Kaido clashing, the very first Impel Down break in and mass Impel Down breakout, the Warlord meeting, the Marineford war, the deaths of Whitebeard, Ace and Little Oars Jr, Jozu losing his arm, Kuzan leaving the Navy, Sengoku and Garp retiring, Akainu becoming Fleet Admiral, and Navy HQ being moved into the New World

[final trench]

Devil fruits are supposed to be rare and its like 100+ devil fruit users

Alive currently

[grand flower]

All those things happened because Blackbeard decided to steal the Yami Yami from Thatch

[keen quiver]

I think it was always gonna end up going back to the D. And Now davy

[wet condor]

But I'm not bothered by it much

[grand flower]

Oh, and the SHs taking the two year timeskip

All that wouldn't have happened if Blackbeard didn't kill Thatch

[wraith mantle]

damn what an insane domino

[grand flower]

Blackbeard is a bigger contributer to the story as we experience it than Imu has

[glass plume]

wonder how Thatch would've wielded the yami yami if he ate it

[grand flower]

Imu has been mostly background

[ionic palm]

which we can then basically also trace back to the God Valley incident which then creates a multi-decade long domino effect ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[brittle basin]

i don't want to ascribe too much of that to BB. i guess technically the Jozu thing is correct, but that was ultimately Aokiji

[restive wedge]

Although everyone being related makes the world feel smaller I feel like people are overexaggerating it. Also I feel like it's kinda realistic like the real world

[grand flower]

Jozu and Kuzan wouldn't have been fighting that day if Blackbeard didn't kill Thatch

Domino effect

[glass plume]

i still just don't find Blackbeard interesting

[grand flower]

Teach's influence on the story is staggering

[final trench]

#nextarc 🤫

[glass plume]

the most interesting revelation will be why he can eat 2 fruits imo

[keen quiver]

That is not the most interesting thing

😭

[final trench]

Only character brave enough to denounce roger and whitebeard

[brittle basin]

no sure I agree. I just don't want to take responsibility away from aokiji either.

[glass plume]

it is imo

i fail to find other interesting parts about his character

[graceful belfry]

Pretty much the entire discussion, yeah. We don’t know and I’m just explaining that I could potentially dislike the implications if Teech was motivated primarily by something like wanting to avenge Xebec and the Davy Clan, because right now I like the idea of him remaining a character who feels entirely self-interested

[ionic palm]

even if you dont find Blackbeard as interesting, its undeniable that he's the main reason why alot of story implications occurred

[keen quiver]

It ain't anymore after the Davy thing