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the minute Meek translate the final chapter, we launch the Oda cancellation campaign.
Imu collects things from his victims..

I don't know if he picked Roger. He could have just put him in the chest to make sure he was safe and the Roger pirates just happened to see this chest all by itself and like Gus in Cinderella, was like "hey, why not one more!"
The real Revolutionary army has been us all along

Goda
Did somebody say my name?
it's a break week
Meek do you have a script running that pings you everytime someone says your name
Maybe but still strange to put something Ina Chest around pirates
Troll face Saturn
me when the natto hits the spot
his DF was 1000% in that chest.
imagine if Rogers crew got that df. would would eat it
Wait what devil fruit!?!!
Dragons
Dragon's devil fruit was in his heart
Dragon takes the fruit and puts shanks in
its fart btw. the revolutionary has a flatulence fruit
you are a fart
ong though if oda really makes it a fart fruit he's back in the goat conversation
he did make snort df
What's his fruit tho
fart fart
wind logia
I just realized that Mihawk must have really smelly farts with all the wine he's drinking
Stop
The word dragon is the most interesting word in one-piece
i just realized clock ticks faster
Thats why his castle is empty
Perona likes it tho
only baboons can handle it
i just realised last time i had coffee i liked it quite a lot. mocha is good.
good reminder. i need to binge something
is this a 5G tower that spreads covid
should i get canes
yes
It's crazy that all the top pirates are feeling emotional about Shaky and it's like inspiring them to fight stronger and do all this macho stuff 🤣 at least that's how I see it. Is this love haki!
Every panel had raising canes
Imu: "I need you to lower your head Saturn so I can step down"
🕷️ Saturn: "But--"
Imu: "Would you rather me turn your legs into stairs?"
🕷️ Saturn: "Yes Sir"
horny haki
@rose rune yo thigh
that exactly what Sanji will get
laziest megazord ever

i can send links here
The peak of haki!
thoughts on how to make them better? @rose rune
I have to ask, where did Imu actually spawn from? Saturn's hat?
Whoa it's greadou
No
sorry I pinged ya twice
I thought it was Saturns face being elongated by his power and imus control
"That's the power of love 😏"
this vs G5
Luffys the same way just with meat.
horniest man v freest man
luffy can't get past Sanjis refrigerator lock
Shanks fans always been a bit crazy
I really hope Sham is a secret Rev. He doesn't need to be poisoned by Garling suck factor
I’m gonna be laughing HARD when Shamrock is revealed as Bonney’s bio dad
Irredeemable
Lady Akagami had 2 children. Her blood is enough

Give that to Garling too. Or even better, Sommers.
i'll have to give props to Oda if he pulls that off
You can't convince me, they're both too cute
kids aren't born evil. it's how they are raised.
Marijoa First with Figarland Shamrock
I could see shamrock as a far right streamer
Shamrock was done when they took him back
You can go against how youre raised too. If we're going to bring Gunko back, we can bring Sham back. If Sabo knew how he was being raised was crap from the very beginning, so can Sham.
It's anti-OP to think you're a lost cause simply because of your circumstances.
That's mostly a theory than anything
none of the 2 u mentioned apply to shamrocks
How not?
he was taken as an infant and raised by garling
you think that's anything remotely close to what Sabo was ?
Sabo was born to crap parents and raised as a noble? Same thing, just one level up
Gunko lore 💔
It is literally the same thing on a fundamental level. Yes one celestial, but the situation is the same. The ultimate theme is the same
All we know right now is she lost her memory. That could be an accident
Her being associated with Brooke is ripe for rhat
I also have a feeling Garling didn't actually "raise" his kid
if you really believe Garling is only one level above Sabos parents then i can't convince you xd
You're concentrating on the wrong point, but whatever
Secret good guy btw
Loki's going to get his teeth kicked in like Kaido's about to?
ppl too down bad
Undercover agent
Xebec lost too does that mean the same will happen to Luffy?
"i can save him"
Low quality rage bait
Probably
I've had Luffy losing that fight since it started
smh kaido already killed luffy
facts
The glaze in comparing Zoro to Whitebeard
Glazing WB yeah
If it were me I'd put Loki as Xebec and Luffy as Whitebeard
Kaido would be fit for Zoro instead
i'm more shocked someone didn't add
koby = Garp into this shit and ran with koby in Elbaf agenda
hmm, thicker lines, and maybe less detail?
Probably what Otohime thought
Nice to know she succeeded and it wasn't "done" for him
it's on #emote-suggestions could you give it a go?
i think it won't be allowed on the server until the anime reaches that scene
trust me, if Otohime saw Garling and Shamrock, she would order the fishmen to drown them before they lay eggs
dragon a better father than people assumed he was, makes me wonder why he kept his distance from luffy
6 years
it's literally for Luffys safety.
Garps buddies would've taken tiny luffy and live-streamed his execution
until Dragon showed up
Oda literally told us why. Dragon himself pretty much told us why. Luffy would be in danger if he stayed with Dragon, and they could use him against him
they hunted pregnant woman because of Roger xd
and Dragon is a much bigger threat
probably nuked islands
I wish I could say that was incorrect, but hey 👐
yea i hope they reunite one day
It's funny, if Dragon had stayed in the Marines like Garp wanted, we probably wouldn't have Luffy
Where would your "plan" be then, Garp?
I remember after watching post enies lobby then searching up Luffy meets dragon on yt thinking it wouldve happened already
Been 4 years and they still haven’t met 💔
The Slander of Garp was never this strong. Wonder if 17years ago with Marineford it was like this
Dragon has his secret agent looking out for his son now
Not like I am complaining

They weren't calling him the warrior of oppression back then
that's when i started disliking him.
Then this is the Golden Era of Slander
it's been continuously going down
Her being associated with Brooke is ripe for rhat
I haven't cared for Garp since seeing his "parenting skills"
Why say that twice
Connection error on my end. Tought I didn't send it
He was not in a good position back then. Now it's even worse.
If Dragon became a better person it was probably thanks to his mother.
fuck his position
im still pretty interested in garp as a character (though i doubt oda will delve too deep into his mental regarding all this)
Garp is one of the best characters in the series
Oh BROTHER
ok lets not push it too far
writing wise he’s good
oppressor pfp checks out
Yeah garp is a great character
I get that Garp does a lot of good to save people and that his reputation does help inspire marines. And yet, I feel like most of it wasn't intentional on his part. That he does things on a whim and people praise it like he has some mastermind plan to change the marines. It feels like moreso he just does what he wants and that just happens to work out that way.
Oppressed*
garp is luffy if he was an elderly man
im a bit annoyed at how much oda wants to show him off but i guess he needs his last stand before he dies
agree
The fact that garp inspires so much discussion proves hes well written
that’s what most characters get
she looks pretty free in GV hunting kids
well its not usually very good discussion lol
Subjective
but maybe thats the problem of the reader rather than the author
Penny's not wrong if you are talking about flawed conflicted characters. In that area, Garp is pretty up there
But would she be doing that without Imu's influence?
hmm
Imu mind control bro
We’ve been over this
so she have been controlled this whole time?
Complexity 
It's not that
should I remove it?
It's Imu created a whole different life for her
Imu backstory bout to be crazy😂😂😂
I dunno, I just threw this together, but maybe this works better when you shrink it
just in case
garp is flawed but i wish we got to see that flawed side more apparently, which im hoping we get in a potential garp flashback or something
I think we have to, at least now since Roger and WB and Rocks are here, this is their era. If not now, when? That's the idea
garp discussion seems to be
-is he complicit
-is he working from the inside to change the system
-he is so strong
I don't think I would ever call Garp a deep and complex character though. and whatever depth there is is probably closer to surface level than real depth
average reddditor backstory
by that logic mihawk gotta be the most well written character in fiction
hell nah Imu gonna be one of the most complex characters
the whole void century conflict is gonna be amazing
Imu gonna be the biggest chud in history
And he destroyed the Admiral Agenda being stronger than Kuzan
well right now imu is like one of the least complex characters lmao
they even use a power called 'the power of evil'
None of mihawk discussion is abt his character though
Imu is barely more complex than Sommers rn
-yes
-kind of
-yes
He's conflicted, though not deep
I just zoomed out to make it small, but it seems like thicker lines work
they ain't ready for imu backstory
I might agree on conflicted
at the gym rn, that looks great
btw, should I remove it from #emote-suggestions since the #anime ain't even close to being there yet?
it would be cool if Imu was just pure evil since they were born
Maybe not complex, but deep probably and extensive
I dunno, we've had spoiler emotes before
but the conflict is probably surface level as well, since it's so easy to immediately question garp's conflict

he ain't deep. he has never been about the big change and taking the hard route for it. guy is set in his way long ago and won't change for anything that would take him out of that path
bro what the hell is this😂😂😂😂😂 i’m crying
I imagine this is Imu’s real personality
I think the problem with Garp is also the problem with some Marines like Koby. Has Koby ever talked about the Celestial Dragon or that Slavery is OKAY in his world and he is defending that as a Marine?
imu was also crying when he learned this truth. then the war began
alright 
Honestly we already know that's not exactly true, the flower room itself tells us that, and the way Imu treats the butterflies
ok buddy
muh evil queen
do not try defending Imu
imu not sinking the planet over something like that
i'll defend imu
Yeah?
Imu has information that only he can tell us. He's the oldest thing on this planet. He can't get taken out until he spills it. I'm way more excited about that than I ever was about GV
I love how half of the fandom just assumed imu loved nefertari lily
Well I'm just saying it won't be that simple
Buddy got a giant picture inside his room man
Hes gooning
if they are saying that, I think it will be
Imu desires Vivi
imu wouldn't have to domi reversi anyone if they would just learn to accept their place in the world and learn to obey
You cant think you're the good guy saying that
Unless she was his mother, why he got a picture of her in his room?
but he also has joyboy hat in his chamber...
Sb no one said that 😭
vivi is so ugly
The time when Vivi almost low diff Zoro
Rebellion time
This would kill Imu
insects are supposed to know their place smh
Belly dance would make him explode
the days go by and i hate more and more the zoro's fans, but i still like zoro
FBI agents in their van around the corner.
wtf 
Zoro fans are not that bad nowadays
No, a lot of people just assume Sword is the good of the Marines when honestly, we know little to nothing about most of them, and nothing about how they feel about the WG.
Also Sword is so small with some of the weakest people ever seen in the marines. If Oda wanted them to stand out more, he needs to work on them...like a lot.
yall really think Imu been gooning for 8 centuries😂
Garling is regretting that one night stand
He loves collecting things from the past, so it’s not only Lily’s portrait he owns.
There will be a resurgence soon
They've been chill since Zoro vs Lucci lol
Every day
What else does he have to do
yea
Probably, when he masters Enma
Gardening
One Piece being a critique on incels is the real Goda moment.
he has slaves for that
playing with butterflies for 800 years would drive anyone insane
old people's habits...
Shanks fans have far surpassed Zoro fans
He probably will do so...in a novel or a spin-off. Oda put a lot of lore in the world, but I don´t think he can explore it all that. More because he wants to end the manga more than he can not do it right now.
thiccc
Most of them do. That's the brilliant thing about it.
The reason Imu doesn't domi reversi everyone is because he doesn't have to. They've already accepted his rule without even knowing it.
In their own way, the CDs are really just a giant figure head
And R*cks fans have surpassed them all
the manga being more adult 
agenda shit crazy😂😂
Wait until we learn that Imu was once a normal kid who wanted to live a peaceful life, but it was destined for him to become the Devil of the World.
Xebec was definitely stronger than Mihawk
Exactly! And if the rest of the world would just obey and learn their place, things can go about peacefully. Kind of. Some exceptions apply. 
Don’t summon them
I'm pretty sure xebec might have had the title 🫣
Basically the strategy Genghis Kahn used, make an example out of a few and the rest will fall into line without even needing to fight them
keep ur dick in ur pants
Mihawk probably will do more in the Flashback of Shanks before him doing anything relevant in the actual story.
Shanks flashback will come next, also
im betting next arc is cross guild arc
Longer than that
we cant go to long without a cross guild ramp or theyll feel random, unimportant and out of place
Even they have their place. The Emperors? The Pirates? They all work for Imu too, without knowing it
Idk if Cross Guild is getting a whole arc
I do think Moria will join cross guild
A Full Cover Story longer than Yamato´s
Maybe
Their moment will likely be within another arc
my money is impel down 2 if luffy loses at elbaf or davy back fight on lodestar if luffy wins at elbaf
Cross Guild's arc is Laugh Tale actually
So idk between the crews it does feel like straw hats, cross guild and BB pirates all seem more like xebecs crews than any crews we seen before
donald trump is trying to silence oda
the usa is trying to silence oda and stop the one piece from being revealed
And so do I. 😈
Did you see Peter Thiel’s One Piece analysis
He could try 😏
This would happen if OP was bigger in America lol
impel down 2 would reverse dynamics of impel down 1, bugy gets to relive his biggest victory, gets the important people like doffy and weevil outa jail.
Buggy on lodestar would repeat his ambush of luffy at loguetown and thered be something kind of nice about buggy ambushing luffy at both the beginning and the end. Also I think buggy is the best candidate for a second davy back fight if thers gonna be one. Tonal mismatch for bb to do it
Even though Rocks has a lot of recency Bias and bandwagon fans u cannot tell me he isnt an amazing character
In 8 chapters since his official reveal he became one of the most loved characters in the series
OP is not that popular in the United States?
it is but significantly more in japan
I mean, like most animes.
I mean
There's plenty of Christian imagery in One Piece
Yep. Didn't post it because it was way too political
stop it before it becomes a problem ykwim!
It's been getting progressively more popular but it is still slower to the curve than other manga here
Its likes s thing that every age has a Jesus like figure
Jesus age is the age of Pisces and we're entering the age of Aquarius
Relatively, I think the amount of American fans would be about the same as Japanese fans
One Piece popularity in the Us blew up over the last 5 years
Live action and gear 5th hype
Anime in general has. It was unthinkable to get anime movies in theaters here when I was growing up. At least ones that weren't Pokemon or Yugioh
And even that was niche
facts
Covid
covid made #anime uninhabitable
soon one piece will get so popular it will destory planet earth.
It definitely was already starting to get bigger here when I was growing up but nothing like it's been in the last 5 years
shoot the flag meek
Political talk is allowed now?
It’s honestly becoming pretty big
Being an anime fan in high school back then, it was a rather small group and I had to travel for more than an hour to go to the one hot topic in our city and china town to find anything good in merch.
Now? I can find OP in freaking Walmart down the street
OP is like the 2nd biggest manga in the entire world
Especially with the OPLA and other stuff
oh wait. hold on. out of context, my comment is kind of dark. i didn't think that one through lol
its pretty hit and miss whether rules against political talk is actually enforced
number 1 is jjk
it actually is tho
yes
like all stuff in also manga its a case by case basis
you roll with it until you dont
gotta ask yourself, if we didnt have this connection to one piece would I seek you out for your political opinions? Of course not. Go join a political discussion discord
Oda wishes his manga was as talked about as JJK
It just depends on if a mod is online
Chrissy is most definitely online
gross
JJK is carried by their version of agenda piece
without it it would lowkey not do no numbers😂 and they also have good animation
look i'm gonna be honest. I read the first volume and three chapters after that to finally see what it's about. holy god that was awful. i hope it gets better narratively, but right now it fucking sucks
Let's talk about OP politics instead. How is that going?
Agenda piece started cuz of JJK
whats the housing situation like in one piece
this is 100% true
FINALLY A GOOD QUESTION
can a marine make enough to afford a house nowadays
Kill the agenda
dont lul thats a real and good question
Lot's of beachfront property
It does get better briefly and then it gets worse
You build your own? Or steal one I guess?
that's not helping its case
i am really curious how much a marine actually makes
Inflation might be hurting their pockets
oda is a bitch fraud for not delving further into the economy of this world
I think I will 
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
In tears damn is this a REAL GAMEE ??
IMO
how many minutes till the first person who calls Garp an oppressor😂
Does Garp even own a house?
I feel like the op economy is not very good for the average person
genuinely good question
I don't think so
marines probably don’t make that much money, the foot soldier ones
yeah this is lit af esp with clouds all around. Looks peak.
vice admiral/admiral and above or captain rear admirals probably make a very high salary
I would like to know more about the tax system used in Water 7.
Marines would make very little for the most part cause they likely get free food and housing
there seem to be quite a lot of prospering nations even in places as volatile and dangerous as the grand line
Where did Dragon and Mrs. Garp live? Did Garp support them?
Ruh roh
No
Trying to ruffle some feathers here King
Did Rocks build his wife a house?
and pirates there’s no limit to their pockets
garp is literally going to meet dragon this flashback.
Did he provide child support?
i like to imagine rocks sent money back
Probably a little
@wet heron imagine hating Rocks lol in 2025
All that money he was stealing, he couldn't save up enough for Jr?
I believe the word for that is "remittance" stop wasting words
What happened to Rocks getting those devil fruits
Typically, I know the staff are all in agreement with me. And I don't even mention political stuff 99% of the time, it's basic human rights. ig its political to some
Let's move on though.
what a scam hachi is running

i am not paying 3x the price of a cabbage for one takoyaki
Without Harald he cant really do this
no idea maybe its brought up next chapter
Eris had help from the Davey clan who accepted her as family I would bet
It's Loki's now
Whitebeard is worth 10 million takoyaki
Im talkin about the other one
That's not bad. How many Takoyaki for 500?
i assume one?
The top left panel
though maybe its a small box
I have given you verbal warnings for bringing up politics at least twice now tho
watch what you say about the goat.
He thinks he’s him
Loki's hammer has that one
idk tbh but who needs dfs? haki transcends all.
But it could just be Rocks assuming
literally cannot channel my inner John Lennon on this 1.
Twice?? only?? 
That would be a scam. You never sell just one
That Harald can awaken it
ROCKS IS DA GOAT
Haki 😴
TOP 1 FR FR
Imu is a proper bum ass
Locks
Rocks Ope Ope no Mi soon
had to rely on Gorosei
Rocks named attack vs Imu in 1163!!!!
yeah, I'm not online all the time 👴
then relied on Gunko
i probably agree with you on most things too but i dont like taking advantage of a semi-captive audience whos here for a completely different reason and preaching whatever beliefs to them, even if i agree with those beliefs
has rocks used a named attack yet?
No
Wocks maybe
Rocks gravel. enough said.
i was so confused about what this meant before i remembered chopper
if Imu uses sneaky tricks vs Rocks, Imu will end up having 0 fans lol
man he was really worth 1/3rd of a cabbage
ROCKZ WINZ
This is still crazy. I would give a pet a higher bounty than Luffy, tbh.
venture overwatch
Maybe he doesn’t t name his attacks
Rocks is decent
📠
Who knows
I think 6 takoyaki is normal
If its what they usually sell in Japan, there's usually 8 in a set. 500 for 8 is pretty nice.
Thats worth it
But I like Imu too
WE LIVE ON A ROCK @vital heart
I dont like it though
Like go get me that damn dog, dead or alive, and I'll give you 4 billion berries!!!!
yeah thats a pretty good deal then
I dont understand why pets have so low bounties
Raw produce in general is quite cheap
They should be higher than average human
Do you think Whitebeard's dog has a higher bounty than Chopper
Also if fishmen are considered as "animals" or "pets" why don't they have lower bounties than humans?
That's chump change 😭? Poor Chopper
Why didn't Oda just show it
would you rather buy a sword or some sick headphones
Also this begs the question, if Chopper has a lower bounty for being a pet, why aren't minks dirt-cheap?
No more than 100 berries for my minks!
Xebec could be like 4.9
Respect Stefan
And with inflation it would be higher
Fuckin WG Tariffs making these damn minks so expensive!
lowkey racism
what did meek mean by this?
Oh yeah this does make the Bepo gag kinda weird
Headphones
wdym
tariffs are a tool of the oppressors imo, WG taxes smaller nations to crumble their economy and fuck up their future generations.
He has a "pet" bounty too
yes, its a move in Othello (or Reversi)
It's lower than Chopper's now I think
bepo is worth 10 choppers
Oh
still lower
I thought it was 500, or 5000 idk
bepo is at 1500 now, chopper 1000
ts brazy af ngl. I need to check out othello
before timeskip it was 500 and 50
I see
~$1 per mink? I'll take the whole collection!
bepo is worth 3 takoyaki
Either chopper is wildly cheap
Or bepo has something valuable about him
Which is it?
hes a polar beart hats why
In hindsight, this is a crazy first bounty ngl
Bepo's been a pirate for longer than chopper. His bounty had time to grow. Plus a polar bear is way more deadly than a baby reindeer

bepo could probably beat rocks i thinkj
Also guys
Chopper spends 90% of his time as a small little baby thing, lower than a reindeer in size and power
Bepo spends all his time as a bear
After 1162, does anyone honestly, swear on their mom's life, think that Imu still has the water logia/sea devil fruit/water powers?
Someone needs to make a Bepo variant of the upscale meme
im still betting on devil zoan
Solved it - he has the paramecia logia
He never said wait
Woei
I'd like to bet that imu doesn't have a devil fruit. I think Imu has a level of haki that is so beyond anything we've seen to the level of proficiency such that Imu's haki can mimic devil fruit abilities.
Toei rose Augur stocks and then made them crash
I coin this phenomena "devilish haki"

I've never thought that
I think Imu is literally the devil themself
THEY HAVE A TRIDENT AND TAIL!!
Augur is just Jean Bart upscale
!remind list
Ask for another bet so if you lose its Ricotta Major for 3 more months
how does this scale relative to ancient haki
obviously its not elemental haki but it must be close
Just near tribal haki
Ancient haki (assuming youre referring to Joyboy haki) is stronger than Devilish haki
This is cuz joyboy was stronger than imu
Augur stocks will crash
Me and feeso talked about this, we actually know what happened in the VC
Usopp stocks will skyrocket
We are very good at theorizing
And he knew he was going to lose, because he was stronger?
I hope Joyboy isn't another Shanks/Rocks archetype but I know he will be
I'm 100% sure Imu is older than Joyboy
joyboy is probably very luffy coded
what???
adventurous type
No df hakiman loves family and his friends very stoic leaves nobody behind
not super political or heroic
nah he ain’t gonna be
What I said
Davy Jones will be a rocks Like character
I hope you realize Imu and Joyboy will have a sort of Kid/Luffy, Blackbeard/Luffy, Zoro/Sanji, Rocks/Roger, Roger/Garp.. sort of relationship......
and Vander Decken gonna be a menace😂
Yeah that except the no devil fruit part because we know he had one
Nah he just did that
When he's younger
Somehow
But we'll probably see his whole life
this mf crazy
Why does Kid keep sneaking back in here?
And no, I think that's going to be more Davy Jones' role.
hmm yeah its possible joyboy might have grown into something a little more like shanks or roger
Joyboy IS Davy Jones
It makes so much sense
If you accept that as fact, so many pieces fall into place
Hmm...no
I really don't like that
it makes so much sense almost too good to be true
I don’t know if it actually will end up being the case but I won’t be shocked if it is
We really don't need to make Teach even more special
Davy is the Rocks to Joyboy's Roger or the Blackbeard to Luffy
it would be funny
teech will have joyboy's blood
but hes not the guy joyboy was waiting for
I think Joyboy is obviously closer to Luffy or Roger, it's basically been telegraphed the entire series
Joyboy is a Devil Fruit user, and Luffy has his devil fruit
Davy Jones was never confirmed to have died and is implied to be at the bottom of the sea right now via a curse from Imu
Though it would be interesting if the Davy family through history confused and conflated the 2. And so they think Joyboy was Davy when they were actually seperate people
I really don't know what I want from Joyboy, because I don't want him to be too similar or too different from Luffy
joyboy is very obviously meant to be closer to luffy but id like it if blackbeard was his blood relative instead
makes for a fun dynamic of inherited will vs blood
Joyboy is the real BB parallel
This guy trafficked ancient weapons
If Oda was good
Davy Jones is more like Luffy (assuming theyre different ppl)
He WAS the military industrial complex
i still dont trust the ancient kingdom
we know joyboy is probably not 100% good
What if he was like usopp
thats what i gather from vegapunk's podcast anyways
well i dont know if i trust oda tha tmuch
You should read Feeso and I's collaborative theory on this
It's pretty good
it’s impossible for him to be evil
the only reason Vegapunk said he doesn’t know who was in the right is because he didn’t have all of the facts, he was only going off the small info he managed to gather
Why? Other than wanting a subversion?
joyboy is gonna stab a kid in the first panel
For a subversion

joyboy and the ancient kingdom have very clearly been portrayed as the good guys throughout the entire story, i really doubt oda will subvert that
No one cares about you Usopp right now
Im not usopp tf
Uh-huh
He might have wanted to be king of the world. We know he wanted to be "king", but there was no pirate king back then. But if he wanted to be king of the world it's because he's a dumbass like Luffy and not out of malice
Vegapunk is a scientist so yeah he gave an unbiased account
how a mf bringing the dawn gonna turn out to be evil man😂 that would make no sense
Which conveniently doesnt tell everyone "the wg is fucking evil btw"
FACT: vegapunk is a scientist AND old
is that a fact
sun too hot idk man oda can make it work
Vegapunk saying shit like “oh yeah this JoyBoy guy is probably evil” is gonna be improtant I think
maybe
Also we know stuff like Zunesha being a war criminal
Joyboy probably had good intentions for the Mother flame but it would inevitably leave other ppl with the short end of the stick
that is what a pig says, good job meek
We do?
Yeah
???????????????????
not a war criminal
No we dont
just some 'crime'
You guys should read my zunesha theory
joyboy preserved 3 whole ancient weapons
He commited a "crime", like Kuma commited a "crime"
the crime had to do with pluton most likely
if they ended up in the wrong hands would have caused insane amounts of destruction
Yeah, a "crime"
the ancient kingdom wanted to use the island erasing super weapon for peaceful reasons :)
Ancient kingdom had a right to defend itself!
Zunesha is the one who is going to bring down the walls of wano when Momonosuke orders him to
Only other way pluton is getting released is by the quake fruit possibly
This proves to me that Zunesha is Lily, good theory.
like that was one of the biggest takeaways of the podcast
It's silly but that's what I'm expecting, they were used for like mining or some shit lol
Probably. Especially since some of the weapons are people and can make their own decisions
quake fruit in the hands of a strong ancient giant perhaps??
HMM
but wb already had the fruit
nvm
I would love it if Oda committed to Joyboy being kind of a dick, but I have no faith in him
same
Oda doesn't have the balls for that
Pluton better not look goofy😂 this thing has been getting hyped since alabasta arc
wouldnt that just be rocks
Bruh
i really just hope the ancient kingdom isnt portrayed as only wholesome innocent victims
im sorry meek but that final line is all it took for me not to want to read it
Well I mean even more of a dick
Because Rocks is another instance of Oda cowardice
The ancient kingdom is probably like equivalent to the Skypieans and what they did to the Shandorans. Morally ambiguous for the sake of Oda having a party at the end of the story.
new theory: the fruits rocks wanted were the quake from WB and the soul from big mom
he needed: giant quakes
a race long lived enough to do something really fucking wild with the soul
A person who awakened the Nika Fruit can’t be a dickhead tbh😂
idk joyboy might be a bit a of cunt but overall he will be a nice guy
#theoriesiwritebutidontbelievein
well we know it can be capable of great destruction (maybe)
whos to say it cant
Would you like Rocks more if we actually saw him do evil shit firsthand?
Definitely
You right, that’s only an interpretation of Nika though
genuinely most of my problems with rocks would be solved if we saw the supposed bad stuff he did
some ppl think he’s a destroyer some a liberator
Joyboy will be about as much of a "dick" as Luffy is
Basically Garling is what I hoped he would be
ok thats a bit far
I did imagine him being more vicious
rocks is an aura farming wholesome chungus it turns out
And supposedly he is
i am not even glazing rocks but the fact oda didn't show the "bad" things is because they weren't actually bad
Oh come on
yeah
I wouldn't go that far lol
You can't seriously think all those towns he destroyed were evil
like similar with the loki stuff
I do think that
ok not the loki stuff that was a bad example
loki had it coming 
xebec is just very ambitious, he’s not a good guy obviously he’s a pirate but he ain’t pure evil either
I mean he did really
probably
nah cause loki actually did bad shit, but it came from a place of frustration and despair and yearning to belong
who does this 11 year old kid think he is, speaking his mind
But Xebec was in the wrong still. That was just Loki's comeuppance in a way for all the shit he was doing earlier
Loki was in the right there. Rocks was coming into another person's country and basically telling people what to do lol
I'm just saying what happened to Loki was karmic in a way lol
but i think in rocks case, the fact that oda only showed one instance where he raided a corrupt org.. idk man
oda is not that BAD of a writer
yeah im just joking, rocks was 100% in the wrong for what he did lol
he beat a child nearly to death for basically no good reason
hes deffo hinting at something, which will get elaborated on later
Well he actually did have a pretty good reason
And it did work out
Somewhat
Somehow I feel like we’re supposed to think that lol
🥀
he has planted the seed of doubt that maybe all of rocks did wasnt fully bad
Like the only thing rocks actually destroyed on screen were a bunch of super duper evil people that deserved it, and then everything else was just news casting that could also just be propaganda. And as far as we know he was mostly attacking other pirates as well.
the people were mostly good, but the town themselves were evil possessed buildings
Yep
I don't feel like Rocks assaulting Loki is beyond scope of Luffy assaulting Vivi.
People trying their best to say Loki getting hurt by Rocks was bad when Loki himself didn't take it in a bad way
That sounds like a cool place
Are you deadass
"Luffy assaulting Vivi" he punched her once
😭
Well, Luffy wouldn't do to Vivi what Rocks did to Loki lol
I'm crine
beating children generally isnt a very good thing
After she punched him lmao
I dunno, I wouldn't like living there I think
Exactly like wt
Fym Luffy assaulting Vivi, you mean Viví assaulting Luffy?
And also rocks gravely wounded Loki with an Acoc attack
Luffy cant even feel that btw
Viví was fine
A lot, she was wailing on him

Loki tried to hurt Xebec first in both instances
did he?
Yes he did
i thought loki just wanted to join the crew
Yeah and he challenged Xebec to a fight in order to do so
i guess, but on the other hand he’s still just a kid
Rocks morality scaling is always so funny
you usually don’t pull out a lethal weapon if a kid challenges you to a fight
Yeah a 200 ton giant that is capable of killing people
Xebec should've took Loki wit tbh
even with him asking for that fight, Rocks had no right to maul him like that lol
are luffy's fists not a lethal weapon?
No
not really
Nope
Nah
Trying to call Luffy punching Vivi once an act of attempted murder
Lock in dawg
Those are not the words that I said
garp was not in fact a good father figure
We're definitely supposed to think it was horrible of Rocks to do that lol, because the better person in the scene WB takes clear issue with it
Still it's nothing like Loki vs Rocks
Really not any other way to see it
yeah it’s very obviously painted as bad
On the contrary the actual victim regained his will to live from it lol
Loki could def handle it
Well Loki's a mentally disturbed child
loki is a freak though
Loki aside, can we talk about how WB got that shit on during that encounter
WB in the trench coat >>>>
i don’t think rocks was thinking “yeah this kid will learn from this experience and can handle it”
Him thinking its fine does not in fact make it fine
Truee
What was he thinking then mind-reader
I wonder if Rocks ever got a chance to beat on Teach before he died
Also btw, about the Garp thing, also not necessarily portrayed as a positive thing. Luffy clearly expressed that he disliked being beaten up all the time lol
rocks would be a good dad i think
I actually feel the opposite tbh
he’s grown since then (probably)
Also WB doesn't like any type of punishment
I feel like rocks would beat his children
But like
More in a Garp abuse type of way
the rocks hitting loki discourse still going on😂😂
Teach is simply not old enough to be thrown into jungles but he would've done it eventually
Like making them stronger
Joe Jackson had Michael Jackson 🤷🏽
Blackbeard would’ve been a haki man if rocks lived longer smh
Yeah, but he especially took issue with the blade part, because there's just no justifying that
“Hell yeah now Harald will come home”
So like what was his plan if Loki snitched
i don’t think he knew loki was his son
Also it’s what the holy knights are doing
Yeah he did
True
he knew
oh ok
He called Harald dad
?
He did that’s why he did it
oop
His logic was that Harald would rush home for his son
i guess rocks didn’t think that far
Yea he was using Loki as bait
lol this panel is hilarious
Wym?
it’ll bring harald home, but what about after that
Negotiations fall apart if Harald learns Rocks nearly killed his kid
About Harald's reaction to it if he found out basically
Anyone else feel bad for Lokis homies that shamrock killed
No
nah it was self defense
No
Yeah. No good comes from running with Loki it seems
Yeah
I don’t think I’ve thought of them since that chapter came out
I do, they looked cool
Wow so stoic and sigma blood doesn't scare you big guy
The wolf,bear and snake.
They ain't deserve that
Rest in peace Strong Word animals
You taking that way too personally lmao
they’ve been sent back to movie hell
Ong,made me think shiki was coming back
Socrates is Loki's lawyer
any slight to something loki related is a slight to socrates himself
why are all of these thumbnails always showing luffy with g5 active at all times
This is that real to Socrates

Deranged
So jolly about beating a kids ass
bro loves Loki
He's such a weirdly presented character lol
reminds me of Sommers lol
One pieces super saiyan
None of us can understand the bond that Socrates has with Loki
Making a joke = Taking it personally
Go best friend that’s his best friend
G5 is like mega iconic atp
Everyone likes seeing Luffy like that
oh wait just for one piece media
So it's good thumbnail material
yeah gear 5 is the new sabaody luffy
Oh yea I didn't mean on a global scale
G5 is still really popular
Garp could have awakened it as a marine
more people like it then dislike
Just in the fandom, it's his most popular look
He loves his freedom
No the fuck he wouldnt lol
dawn oppression gatling 🔥
Yeah he would?
garp is free (except for those times he is limited by his job)
Garp is so free he cant accept a promotion
What???? He’s doint what he wants in this situation???
Does garp want to save slaves from the celestial dragons?
garp has the freedom to let his grandson die in front of him
i remember when the intro to loki first came out i saw a few parallels with him and g5's introduction
the introductory panel of G5 showed luffy laughing, eyes covered, and legs splayed out
all 3 of those things applied to loki's introductory panel
Who got that panel of Garp during the Rouge incident 👀
Hell yeah, Garp bad, Rocks bad, Garp good, Rocks good, I speak for everyone when I say YES, THATS how we will be spending this break week again 🔥🔥🔥
Why doesnt he go ahead and do it then
How are you going to spin an example of Garp’s unwavering autonomy as incompatibility from freedom? 💀
How is this guy not mentally compatible with the liberation fruit?
Did Luffy want to go save Vivi after the Reverie?
I don't think anyone else has been shown as similarly yet ngl
Shiki and Enel
He did and he was going to until he realized vivi might not even be there 💀
Nigga know ball

Oh so Luffy wanted to do something then couldnt because he couldn’t ignore the circumstances?
Sounds like he can’t awaken it to me!
That’s this logic
Sprinkle in a little final villain debate and we're set for the week
don't forget the G*on valley jokes
nothing was worse then the break week with watsuki discourse😂😂 like in May
We're past that
Final villain debates have kinda taken a backseat
nah we’re well passed that
It’s mostly just rocks morality scaling
We've kinda moved past it thankfully
take a break like me. Lets be free
Give me a op character that's just peak, peak aura, peak design, all of it
oda needs to give us a new debate topic
I think more people are realizing it’s Teach after the Rocks and Davy reveals
something fun this time
did you see we killed you again the other day
And Muk is less active here to fight for Imu
i already know who everyone is gonna reply with
I'm not here that often lately so I'm already on it kinda
And Garling looks trash as fuck rn too
It’s just bad for team CD
I'll go first
Kalgara 😏
Losing the biggest Imu enjoyer decreases the amount of debates
Loki
i'm chatting less too
yeah and it was shortly after I replied to Illya with something so that was funny
Ima switch sides for the love of the sport
The way oda has been writing rocks I may actually be forced to switch sides
God Valley is killing One Piece, its official
Especially if Blackbeard is on revenge timing
morality scaling
swordsmanship discourse
2 most talked about things during break weeks
i think blackbeard and imu can both be the final villains
Look at all the people chatting less and less here
What side are you on your pfp is his wife 😭
but it's not really a break the last chapters have been cool but nothing i want to really type about
Summer is also over
one piece is OVER
Im on Blackbeards side
Schools back in session
Ah
Bottom of the morality scale
I like rocks but not as much as the other people here
Same I guess
We're losing YC, Me, Marin, Muk, Me, and also me
this panel is so funny
Its not ideal
Im studying right now even
Excuse me?
I really should delete discord for a bit
All we'll have is Meek
I performed a chemical experiment on YO MAMA!
People need to point out these weak ass fights we've been getting in GV, atp I wouldn't be surprised If we get rocks clashing with Imu, while everyone escapes, and then he gets off screened so we can go back to Harald and Loki
Dude is insane
Pretty funny. I know ginny was a slave but taking someones wife when theres thousands of less valuable candidates is something
Maybe it’s an informed consent thing. But not the wife, the husband gives consent
Maybe because she was a revo officer
Saturn was probably just friends with the guy
Saturn wasn't that bad
Good enough for me
What you studying for?
Wish they revealed who it was that actually kidnapped Ginny
bro there ain’t gonna be no fight next week watch😂 couple of clashes and after 2 chapters this is over
Hell we even saw them talking with each other, recently
so far in actual fights wise we've gotten
rocks off screening garling
garp attacking wb kaido and bm one time
wb clashing with roger for a panel
rayleigh kicking sommer's ass
anything else im missing i can't think of it
Saturnuked
Illya don't succumb to the hate



