#also-manga

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frozen aspen
final trench
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Lets not act like garp didnt raise these niggas around BANDITS

brittle basin
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that's a pretty awesome crime

frozen aspen
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Garp isn't being held down here. What stopped him from tryinf to stop akainu btw

wraith mantle
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didnt sengoku say clearly the public execution is because hes son of roger

frigid gulch
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Garling zoan

indigo yacht
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He attacks Akainu here and then gets jumped and achieves nothing

wraith mantle
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if he wasnt the son of roger he would have died in impel down

brittle basin
frozen aspen
grand flower
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Oh wow

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It is Rocks' family

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The old man and woman

sweet anvil
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Yeah I was starting to agree with you to that degree but I searched it up and after scrolling a bit to actually understand what “irredeemability” is it pretty much was telling me it’s a choice but after looking into it more it pretty much said there’s no yes or no answer

wraith mantle
brittle basin
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oh wait shit Viz is out today yay

frozen aspen
pseudo gulch
frozen aspen
distant vine
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I read it as Eris' but maybe I was wrong

pseudo gulch
distant vine
vale heath
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I don’t think Luffy is crying for Garp

ruby moat
distant vine
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Garp is the strongest and most moral Marine EVER

proud pivot
pseudo gulch
distant vine
pseudo gulch
wraith mantle
pseudo gulch
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Shame on you

solemn reef
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Garp is the strongest

wraith mantle
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fuck it man i am paying viz

sweet anvil
vale heath
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Garp is.

pseudo gulch
vale heath
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Unfortunately. I wish he wasn’t.

pseudo gulch
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Even just for one series

wraith mantle
frozen aspen
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garp is tough but throwing hands is all he is good for

round prism
wraith mantle
distant vine
ruby moat
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Prime garp is the strongest marine we have seen in the series

trim lily
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until akainu that is

stone terrace
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We havent seen prime garp

sweet anvil
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We have ?

tranquil blade
# proud pivot

This is unfortunately true because Akainu is the senior citizen and depressed teenager hunter

glass plume
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nor have we seen prime Akainu

sweet anvil
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Is prime garp not the garp vs shiki and vs chinjao

trim lily
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the word prime has lost all meaning

sweet anvil
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We’ve seen prime garp just not him going all out I believe

sweet anvil
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Same with akainu

gloomy tree
proud pivot
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I think Akainu is the strongest or second strongest marine in history

tranquil blade
distant vine
ruby moat
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I’m not worried about Akainu passing him

glass plume
tranquil blade
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"Rookie Garling" When he's probably pushing 30

native seal
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shanks age btw

pseudo gulch
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Yeah I was about to say

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Garling doesn't look like a rookie at all lol

native seal
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grown ass man who wants to be a father btw

glass plume
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he looks like he is about 20 or something

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i don't think he is that old

distant vine
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He's not a rookie at slaughtering defenseless non top-tiers 👻

round prism
sweet anvil
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Shanks age with another HK and a regenerating army

pseudo gulch
proud pivot
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Mid-high diff is so funny

tranquil blade
native seal
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brother if garling looks like that after 38 years then he's definitely pushing 30s

proud pivot
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It was a low diff at best

sweet anvil
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Idk why people act like garling doesn’t have good feats

warm sierra
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I was kinda surprised that rocks was caught completely off guard by the demon thing

wraith mantle
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a lot of powerscaling in also-manga recently

tranquil blade
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What feats does Garling have

pseudo gulch
glass plume
pseudo gulch
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That's a great Rocks feat

sweet anvil
warm sierra
tranquil blade
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Killing chained up slaves and Mjosgard?

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Lmao

glass plume
frozen aspen
glass plume
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i don't know why Xebec even went there tbh

warm sierra
gloomy tree
pseudo gulch
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Garling's feats are abusing unarmed civilians lmfao

tranquil blade
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Garling better hope Imu came through with a yokai form for him

sweet anvil
glass plume
distant vine
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Garling and Somners are so toxic bro. Ik theyre love-hate besties

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😭

gloomy tree
frozen aspen
sweet anvil
# glass plume is it?

He walked into enemy territory with 0 back up and walked out untouched keep in mind as soon as sabo even saw imu , imu start going crazy

frozen aspen
tranquil blade
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Lend me a yokai form Imu this is Mjosgard we're up against

distant vine
gloomy tree
sweet anvil
stone terrace
sweet anvil
glass plume
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no

hot cairn
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funny how insane the Garp discussions have gotten

glass plume
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has there been one genuinely fun discussion to have from this flashback?

distant vine
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Gonna choose to refrain from them

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Just know Garp is innocent

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And you can hand me your signed apology forms after God Valley

native seal
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I think people need to cut some slack on oda cutting fights in a flashback

sweet anvil
stone terrace
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Directly proportional

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Id say

indigo yacht
pseudo gulch
warm sierra
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Garps motivation was always in question it just gets more and more questionable as Oda dials up the world governments atrocities as we reach the finale imo

hot cairn
hot cairn
gloomy tree
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see here is the thing, i dont think the term "innocent" really fits here, character make decisions for different reasons, Garp thought he could do the most good by staying in the Marines and fostering the next generation of Marines to be better i guess

native seal
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that's definitely it

glass plume
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like all the discussions i remember is

Shakky is bad
Goon Valley
Garp is evil
Roger is a gooner
Xebec cult started to form
Loki's feat as a baby
Harald is a bad father

and then there's some highlights like when we get the talk about how great Dragon is

stone terrace
sweet anvil
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Dragon & slaves are the only person on GV I would say are innocent

gloomy tree
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is he right, hard to say, maybe if he joned his son in his revolution they already could be there, who knows

sweet anvil
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Actually not dragon completely

prisma yacht
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Can someone do the !anime thingy

gloomy tree
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!animo

tropic novaBOT
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Next episode comes out on <t:1760888700:f> <t:1760888700:R> CR has been late recently so give it around 10-20 minutes

prisma yacht
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Thanks

gloomy tree
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you know you could do it yourself

strong wadi
prisma yacht
stone terrace
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They count as slaves effectively

prisma yacht
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!animo

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!anime

native seal
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god valley residents were also slaves were they not

sweet anvil
distant vine
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No

gloomy tree
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lol

distant vine
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They were not

glass plume
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they were taken as slaves

sweet anvil
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Well either way them too

stone terrace
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They were in chains either way

gloomy tree
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i guess you cant here

stone terrace
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Makes no difference

prisma yacht
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Lol

glass plume
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they were just lured into thinking theey weren't

strong wadi
stone terrace
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All were there to be slaughtered

strong wadi
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dw im just being a pedantic

indigo yacht
vale gust
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corrupt doing heavy lifting here

native seal
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garp is complacent man we gotta start accepting it

distant vine
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Well Im saying innocent to be hyperbolic

vale gust
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its not just a 'corrupt' system

gloomy tree
glass plume
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Garp is probably extremely proud over Dragon tbh

gloomy tree
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love that for a character

glass plume
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even tho he likes to hide it

wraith mantle
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lol

vale gust
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i am just saying a person who belonged to an organization like WG IRL wouldnt be considered a good person at all. and that too at a very high level

sweet anvil
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I was confused that people didn’t know dragon is garps son

distant vine
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If I remove the agenda, I think you can argue that while he does his best to distance himself from the CD's, he still bolsters a group that is at the WG's command

sweet anvil
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Is dragons full name not known ?

round prism
grand flower
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@brittle basin great name

sweet anvil
round prism
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Its not like he joined knowing all this

distant vine
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Idk if someone like Garp would exist exactly irl

indigo yacht
# native seal garp is complacent man we gotta start accepting it

Thats part of his flaw. Hes complacent and knows about the atrocities that happen. He knew of the baby killings post Roger death (which is why he hid ace). Learned of the slave hunts yet stayed with the marines. I do hope we can explore a potential Garp/dragon conversation post god valley, hopefully in a dragon flashback, to see why he didn’t leave the marines there and then

round prism
distant vine
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Garp is very strong as an individual whereas someone irl could actually just get killed

sweet anvil
glass plume
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people who complain about Garp want him to immediately leave the Marines and start doing shit his way, essentialy taking the law into his own hands lol

native seal
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I'm so down to see a dragon garp conversation in the near future

indigo yacht
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Yet for some reason he stays with them and tries to do as much good as he individually can

grand flower
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Great chapter man

stone terrace
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Human strength has very little variation

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The closest comparison you could probably use is wealth

sweet anvil
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If I had to guess I think dragon wanted garp to be the figure head for the RA

native seal
sweet anvil
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Or the freedom fighters when he started out

distant vine
glass plume
tranquil blade
vale gust
final trench
grand flower
sweet anvil
warm sierra
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I kinda dont want Shanks to know that it was dragon who saved him

final trench
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Its probably kept hidden

urban lodge
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It wasn't publicly known until Marineford

sweet anvil
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When garp revealed it on water 7 soldiers sounded surprised

vale gust
sweet anvil
glass plume
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before Marineford they only knew him as "Dragon"

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not Monkey D.

final trench
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I mean doberman already said it

Akainu says it constantly

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I think they knew

glass plume
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and who are out there fighting

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they're branded as criminals

prisma yacht
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Next chapter is going to be big for garp

glass plume
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Garp would be too

brittle basin
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How do I tag feeso now? I think he has a different name than usual.

indigo yacht
vale gust
glass plume
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brother

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just nevermind

vale gust
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he doesnt fear the CDs, why should he fear breaking the law ?

grand flower
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This is why I think they're colluding

native seal
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I'm still waiting for oda to show the reaction of dragon relating to the news of garp getting kidnapped

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Their relationship as a whole is interesting to me

brittle basin
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@woven talon Hey, Feeso. I'm curious, did TCB do a literal translation for this line? 'Cause I like your version better, since it states directly that Imu is the world almost litearlly. I'm guessing it's probably intended to be a metaphor either way, but I think TCB's version hits harder.

vale gust
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garp and dragon working together is one way to redeem him but that doesnt work given he didnt try to save ace. i think hes a loyal marine

indigo yacht
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Tbf garps loyalty to the marines is nebulous

grand flower
barren token
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Garp is loyal to the marines

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But not the wg

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Which is what dragon directly opposes

vale gust
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its the same thing

brittle basin
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The difference between Viz and TCB here is interesting. With TCB, you can almost conclude that Uranus might be there. But it feels more ambiguous with Viz.

barren token
native seal
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We are not ready for the convos of shimotsuki x revs alliance

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I think alliances will be the secret powers of the revolutionary army

grand flower
strong wadi
native seal
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There's a path for Red Hair x Revs alliance too now btw

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Alliances are definitely something to be explored for the RA

sweet anvil
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I wonder at what point will Fujitora swap sides

sweet anvil
vale gust
brittle basin
sweet anvil
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Won’t happen

strong wadi
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it sounded exactly like how they were scared of luffy's fruit being awakened on wano and it seemed like a callback

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(at least to me)

barren token
vale gust
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this is just plain cope. u cant seperate marines from them being an instrument of oppression of wg

brittle basin
wraith mantle
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oda is probably happy to draw kaido's dragon form again

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i know he had so much fun with it in wano

brittle basin
stone terrace
native seal
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I'm just happy we're seeing whitebeard right now

wraith mantle
dense rapids
warm sierra
brittle basin
stone terrace
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Hang Kaido. HANG HIM

grand flower
brittle basin
grand flower
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I can't believe i didn't peep there was a break

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I'm gonna cry

brittle basin
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lmaoooo

trim lily
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none one piece left beef

native seal
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3 chapters in a row after this trust

prisma yacht
brittle basin
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that's gotta hurt shuron, just like it did me thursday. these have been the most painful breaks in a long while

proud pivot
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How many chapters left for elbaf, i predict 30

urban lodge
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60

native seal
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how many chapters are we in for elbaf

proud pivot
proud pivot
prisma yacht
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30 max I believe

native seal
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30 is my guess too

brittle basin
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we need to: send imu back, get brook and gunko's backstory, give usopp some time to shine, and show the heaven realm. bonus points for: urouge and vivi both showing up

urban lodge
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Y'all are very optimistic huh

vale gust
strong wadi
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As long as there is no movie to force oda's hand, elbaf will be 90 more chapters 🧘‍♂️

native seal
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with how oda is offscreening every flashback fight I'm very optimistic

tranquil blade
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We've been in the arc for 33 ish chapters so far, so I predict we will be here for 45 more chapters

proud pivot
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It seems like we're at the end of elbaf after this flashback finishes because imu is literally here

round prism
brittle basin
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if elbaf is 60-90 more, it's going to lead right into laugh tale and the final war literally, like literally in the middle of the arc

prisma yacht
strong wadi
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WCI, Wano, and Egghead were all significantly longer than expected. It's happening again, so just adjust your prediction for that.

vale gust
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there should be an arc abt the island before laugh tale

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forgot its name

native seal
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Egghead dragged out after the 5 elders arrival

tulip turtle
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lodestar

vale gust
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oh yea

warm sierra
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We still need to go to vira

dense rapids
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Tbh we’re almost done with the big flashback of the arc

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So it could be ending sooner

vale gust
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lodestar, laughtale, final war, epilogue. given no random tangents

thick mango
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It's too late for random tangents I think

strong wadi
dense rapids
native seal
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I wonder what the ending of the elbaf arc will connect to, what will be the big revelation, the next objective

urban lodge
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Wano still had like 90 chapters after the big flashback

proud pivot
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I say we'll enter next arc at the end of 2027 or beginning of 28

dense rapids
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FMI and new marineford will be along side holy land arc

brittle basin
prisma yacht
brittle basin
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1998 Oda is back baby. Lean and mean.

urban lodge
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90 no, 60 yes

dense rapids
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The pacing is different in Elbaph

prisma yacht
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30

dense rapids
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Doesn’t feel like Wano at all

vale gust
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60 is crazy

prisma yacht
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At best

thick mango
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Egghead only had like 20-40 after flashback right? And even that felt long

grand flower
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Elbaph will be longer than Wano because Elbaph backwards is Phable. We're in lore nuke central baybee

urban lodge
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We might not even be out of the flashback in 10 chapters

brittle basin
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Egghead's ending maybe did take a minute, as much as I loved all the lore

prisma yacht
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My bet is 3 more chaps for flashback

dense rapids
urban lodge
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It's not ending with god valley ending

warm sierra
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3 more chapters to conclude gv and haralds death? No shot

graceful belfry
strong wadi
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egghead was an escape. Elbaf is a defend-the-nation arc

dense rapids
brittle basin
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I think the flashback is ending within 5 chapters max if we're lucky. Rocks can die in 2 more, then we can quickly transition to Loki and Harald.

thick mango
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Yeah but the post god valley stuff will be quick

prisma yacht
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God valley is ending in next chapter BBZehahaha

native seal
dense rapids
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Imu isn’t gonna stay there for days

thick mango
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It's not going from God valley deep dive to completely new deep dive

dense rapids
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All of this is going on the same day the strawhats landed on Elbaph

round prism
urban lodge
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Every arc is a time limit arc

dense rapids
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Hasn’t even been a full day on the island yet

urban lodge
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Wano was too because of the stupid bomb plot

vale gust
strong wadi
proud pivot
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Elbaf will end quicker when Akainu arrives

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Ok bye

warm sierra
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All of it being one day means absolutely nothing in terms of chapter amount

dense haven
brittle basin
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Elbaf has further unexplored lore, too, such as the mural and the 3K year old facility

vale gust
native seal
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wasn't raid on onigashima overnight, I've just stopped trusting one piece times

brittle basin
strong wadi
wraith mantle
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what was wci time bomb

dense rapids
urban lodge
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Making the cake

strong wadi
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all of wci was like 2 days i think

native seal
barren token
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Each chapter directly equals 20 minutes of in universe time

brittle basin
glass plume
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Enel needs to come too

indigo yacht
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I was quickly reading the ASL flashback and i just remembered how it ended oh my days

prisma yacht
indigo yacht
barren token
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Luffy said it

native seal
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I've always supported urouge in elbaf, perfect place for him to be

prisma yacht
wraith mantle
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mf

glass plume
wraith mantle
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imagine wasting panel space on fucking urouge 😭

indigo yacht
native seal
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Urouge is a supernova man if he doesn't get time here then when

prisma yacht
native seal
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he ain't even a character like bogard he's genuinely important

wraith mantle
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i am fine with urouge not getting time

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its over for him

vale gust
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given that HKs are bums, i think the fights are gonna be pretty short

native seal
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I'm not, especially when all the other supernovas got their time

brittle basin
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Sommers death soon

grand flower
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Urouge is cool

indigo yacht
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They arrive to Dressrosa, fight in the colosseum, sabo steals the fruit and then they fight doflamingo all in the same day. then they rest at night which is when sabo visits and meets with Zoro and Robin. Then they leave, the crew leaves and form the grand fleet. 2 days

trim lily
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if only urouge was real

hasty sable
thick mango
grand flower
indigo yacht
brittle basin
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urouge is the most annoying name to spell in this damn manga. i'm pretty sure i've spelled it every way imaginable.

grand flower
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What's eto?

indigo yacht
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I know Fuji was doing that gambling gimmick

indigo yacht
wraith mantle
native seal
grand flower
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Yeah I think he did that each day

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He rolled to arrest them on the day they woke up

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Fate

hasty sable
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Honestly sometimes wish One Piece was a lot shorter because you’d think something like this would happen towards the end of the story not halfway through and the Straw Hats never really have another low point after this

round prism
grand flower
hasty sable
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Nah

indigo yacht
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Yea they rested for a few days @grand flower

round prism
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First knight of the sea

brittle basin
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One Piece Kai when?

round prism
hasty sable
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I think it’s all uphill for them now

prisma yacht
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They don't need low points anymore

grand flower
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by wit

native seal
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don't need that many low points when you're finding one piece in 2 years

barren token
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Archer yearns for the end of act 2 low point

hasty sable
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So true

thick mango
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I don't think that's true. There won't be a sabaody level loss again but there will be small defeats along the way

brittle basin
indigo yacht
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Dude imagine if Oda was younger and he made the raid fail

glass plume
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be genuine, do you want another timeskip lol

brittle basin
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i don't want another timeskip

urban lodge
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Maybe if it's like a few weeks

wraith mantle
brittle basin
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just give the straw hats haki and call it a day

indigo yacht
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Depends on what you consider a timeskip

urban lodge
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Not like years or anything

grand flower
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You guys reckon there was ever a time when DFs had more than one copy exist at a time?

trim lily
indigo yacht
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Act 2 Wano had like a 2 week timeskip I think

native seal
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if we do a year timeskip BB would have already found the one piece

glass plume
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1 week time skip would count even

ashen perch
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WCI/Wano was really that last chance for a definitive BIG lowpoint, we'll get defeats obviously but nothing on the level of Marineford/Sabaody

glass plume
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i think it would be kinda neat if they trained with Gaban a bit after Elbaph

indigo yacht
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Since they needed to wait for the fire festival to start

hasty sable
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There was opportunity for it with Luffy literally dying but it’s too late now

thick mango
barren token
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Egghead was the last opportunity

hasty sable
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I think the entire emperor storyline should have been a great deal shorter

ashen perch
barren token
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Saturn should have beat luffy and sent his ass to impel down

glass plume
wraith mantle
stone terrace
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He'd love it

hasty sable
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Kaido winning at Wano and going straight to war with the Marines would have been crazy

indigo yacht
thick mango
indigo yacht
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Same with fights. We just get altercations because the story unfortunately demands we don’t spend time seeing the fight itself

barren token
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Oda trying his best to not slow the story down like that anymore but is fundamentally incapable of making an arc under 70 chapters

vale gust
hasty sable
vale heath
indigo yacht
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Chapters are already packed with so many moving parts

indigo yacht
ashen perch
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I mean those 70 chapters are already so packed as is recently lol

hasty sable
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Entire post-timeskip series would be better to me if he had a little restraint.

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It could be half as long as it is if not less

ashen perch
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he has had too much restraint

native seal
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There's no way oda doesn't have backup plans in case his health declines

hasty sable
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I wish OP was joever

barren token
wraith mantle
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oda is 50 or something

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hes not that old

vale gust
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yup

native seal
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I would be paranoid if I was oda

barren token
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50 in mangaka years is like 80

ashen perch
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well its that old for a mangaka

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yea

pulsar path
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Why is there no episode!

wraith mantle
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is it?

pulsar path
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Wtf is happening;?!!

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Why are they doing this to me

wraith mantle
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whats the mangaka life expectancy

pulsar path
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62

wraith mantle
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holy

pulsar path
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Yeah

ashen perch
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yes lol, they are physically broken just 5 years into weekly serialization, Oda is nearing 30

pulsar path
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It's bad

wraith mantle
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this nigga about to finish one piece into dying

vale gust
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dw oda is built different

native seal
# wraith mantle is it?

have you not heard of oda getting 3 hours of sleep, being a chainsmoker and all other atrocities 😭

prisma yacht
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Dw oda will live longer he is happy

vale gust
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plus oda has slowed down alot in recent years

grand flower
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damn oda is 50

wraith mantle
warm sierra
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Oda is living his dream we know what that does in OP terms

ashen perch
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yea, he hit 50 this year

indigo yacht
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Mangaka age like dogs

ashen perch
barren token
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Tears going down odas face as he realises he's about to write another 100 chapter arc and he has to come to terms with the fact he will never really get to spend meaningful time with his wife and daughters but he has to do this. For Luffy.

trim lily
indigo yacht
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I don’t mean that as an insult but it’s like lebron still playing in the NBA. He’s not as good as he was and that’s ancient for NBA standards

hazy turret
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Damn Oda unc 😭

hasty sable
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Oda when he adds another seventy chapters to the story because Luffy won’t let him skip Elbaf

indigo yacht
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Still performs at a high level but his current highs are his old lows

native seal
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didn't oda promise his wife a tour of some sort after one piece ends

wraith mantle
trim lily
barren token
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Good

ashen perch
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Oda wanted to go on a world tour yea

wraith mantle
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whats the point of having insane wealth if you cant enjoy it

warm sierra
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One piece has never been better, people are crazy

wraith mantle
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i dont understand oda

trim lily
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i mean have you seen his house, i think he does enjoy it

stone terrace
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Its not about the money

hasty sable
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You get to be the best character in Bakuman

native seal
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his house is insane

indigo yacht
vale gust
grand flower
ashen perch
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Oda said he was extremely jealous of Kishimoto when he told him he gets to spend time with his family now and that he finally went on a honeymoon with his wife

barren token
ashen perch
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after Naruto ended

stone terrace
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People who do great things are motivated by more than wealth

ashen perch
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so Oda wants all that

hazy turret
wraith mantle
native seal
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it's beautiful how oda never lost his drive for one piece

hasty sable
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Oda should have just wrapped it in two sagas after Marineford then he could relax

dense haven
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oda is already sick again

wraith mantle
indigo yacht
barren token
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Oda adding another 30 chapters to elbaf so he doesn't have to go out with his bitch wife and annoying fucking daughters anymore

native seal
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I do believe oda loves his work but the fandom pressure has to also be a major part of him continuing

ashen perch
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the series would just have to be entirely rewritten for it to be shorter, its just not possible with the scale its been at since really forever

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he basically cant do anything about it

wraith mantle
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his daughter's favorite character is boa

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she must be annoying af

indigo yacht
hasty sable
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he just does it for the love of the game

native seal
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you think the fans won't hunt oda down tomorrow if he decides to quit lol

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bs

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like i doubt he reads one piece discorse online

vale gust
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what would u guys cut ? parts of wano and egghead. i think all other arcs are really good. one piece isnt a story u can look at a macro level and decide its too long.

wraith mantle
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honestly i wouldn't cut anything

barren token
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I would cut out the minks

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Oda clearly wishes he did

indigo yacht
native seal
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he cut out carrot's goodbye that's a start

ashen perch
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I think cutting out the warlords and supernovas is the radical change to the series that would massively reduce the length of the series

warm sierra
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Carrot coverstory next

ashen perch
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its not something I would do, absolutely not

ashen perch
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but it would be effective

urban lodge
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Yeah the warlords alone probably added a whole decade to the story

indigo yacht
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So mych would have to be rewritten but yea warlords and supernova. They were last minute decisions iirc

woven talon
indigo yacht
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The yonko were the original big foes

wraith mantle
woven talon
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I’ll find the Japanese one sec

urban lodge
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I wouldn't change a thing though, the warlords were some of the best additions

leaden rivet
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The warlords were better than the yonko tbh

sturdy steeple
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Cutting out supernovas would probably work but cannot imagine emperors being cut down.

barren token
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Yeah but warlords gave us thriller bark so maybe it's worth cutting them out

hasty sable
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Would keep all of pre-timeskip

barren token
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Man i fucking hate thriller bark

round prism
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Crocodile had me locked in

indigo yacht
ashen perch
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emperors cant be cut down

leaden rivet
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Pretty much all the warlords were great except Moria

wraith mantle
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punk hazard could have been way shorter

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maybe

sturdy steeple
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I wanted to say warlords.

leaden rivet
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We can do without him

indigo yacht
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So the good of the warlords go to the yonko

sturdy steeple
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My bad.

stone terrace
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Oda went and did kozuki moria man dgaf about finishing one piece

hasty sable
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It’s mostly post-timeskip I think you could change things. That’s where series bloat became an issue.

ashen perch
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ah gotcha

vale heath
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The 6 warlords of the sea (we just remove Moria and thriller bark)

wraith mantle
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fmi, cut or no cut?

hasty sable
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I don’t think it should have taken five hundred chapters to take out two emperors

vale heath
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The rest are fine

ashen perch
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we dont have to remove the warlords as characters

indigo yacht
strong wadi
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Just dont have the timeskip, so no kuja island/impel down/marineford, just go straight to fmi

prisma yacht
vale heath
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We need FMI

leaden rivet
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We could do without thriller bark

indigo yacht
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Let’s go back even further actually.. chapter 100 dragon added bloat

prisma yacht
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Hellnaw

wraith mantle
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kozuki moria tho?

woven talon
vale gust
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egghead and wano have set up a bad precedent i think where oda for some reason drags out the ending which makes the arcs alot worse. both of them had incredible setup

woven talon
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So yeah adding in represents is a choice here

ashen perch
sturdy steeple
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It would just end up a very different story if we cut them down even as villains. Cannot tell if it'd be good. Oda would have to restructure ALL.

wraith mantle
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introduced an insanely useless faction

distant vine
barren token
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Just cut all of one piece and just have the story be about a guy who has to slay demons after they kill his family and turn his sister into one

distant vine
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Red King getting one shot next week

vale heath
sturdy steeple
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Goodbye, Red King.

hasty sable
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I kind of like the idea of Doflamingo surviving Dressrosa and just being a Law boss at Wano. I wish he’d stuck with that plan.

sturdy steeple
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You were the hero we didn't deserve.

woven talon
vale gust
ashen perch
barren token
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Bb will kill imu we know this

native seal
distant vine
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If we had to do cuts yeah Id cut down on Warlords and Supernovas

vale heath
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Doflamingo can’t be a minion

native seal
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the WG doesn't just get toppled in the middle of the story

vale gust
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given how many liberate the country arcs we have, its wild that rebels have had such minimal involvement

vale heath
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A man that charismatic demands the whole stage

distant vine
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and I can think of an island to cut...

urban lodge
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A few of the warlords would have still existed in a different form for sure, Mihawk is the obvious one

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Probably Jimbei

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Crocodile too I feel

stone terrace
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Well

ashen perch
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Oda said that he has no regrets about the warlords but only after saying "man why didnt I make them the Five Warlords of the Sea" so I guess theres atleast a few he would cut down lol

stone terrace
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You could cut one of the yonko

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Make them the sanko

ashen perch
vale gust
vale heath
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Remove Moria

indigo yacht
native seal
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bounty hunters 😭

distant vine
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Enel's begging for change on the street in the Indigex Cut

barren token
vale heath
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Anime keeps trying to bring in bounty hunters for filler

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There’s like 3 arcs of ‘em

stone terrace
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LRLL is getting fired into the sun

indigo yacht
frozen aspen
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most bounty hunters are sinply too weak to fight the straw hats so they don't even try

distant vine
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"But Skypiea's lore" Nope! Dont care!

hasty sable
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For supernovas I do think you could trim it down to like… Luffy, Law, Kid. Even better, I think you could use some of the others to flesh out their crews so it doesn’t feel like the straw hats are the only have strong crews.

barren token
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If you remove lrll you're a pussy

frozen aspen
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is what id like to think is the case

indigo yacht
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LRLL is 19 chapters long man

grand flower
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Hajrudin is great man

stone terrace
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Meow

warm sierra
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Kid is like the most cuttable super nova

indigo yacht
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No Davy back fight means no rocks

stone terrace
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Unfortunate collateral

urban lodge
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Well it's definitely Urouge

frozen aspen
barren token
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I would remove the arcs i don't like but keep the arcs i do like i think

sturdy steeple
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I don't really see Crocoboy, Doffy, Boa, Kuma, Jinbei being cut down.

hazy turret
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I would remove Skypiea

distant vine
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Icon wants to cut out one of the Final Saga's most important story mechanics? Lol

warm sierra
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You cant say Urogue is cuttable when we havent seen him do something yet

indigo yacht
vale heath
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Demonstrably you can remove Urouge and nothing really changed

vale gust
vale heath
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Snack can be a Brook fight tbh

hazy echo
woven talon
graceful belfry
hazy turret
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Yeah I’m just joshing

ashen perch
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I haven't finished ONE PIECE yet despite the 20-year-serialization. The main reason is these guys (Shichibukai). At first, I intended to finish ONE PIECE in 5 years. It was supposed to be a story to fight against pirates called Yonkou. However, I came up with the idea of Shichibukai... I just thought, "It would be badass if these characters showed up". Then as you can see, it caused this long serialization!!

Why didn't I make them Gobukai or Nibukai!! (TN: "Go" means 5, "Ni" means 2 and "Shichi" as in Shichibukai means 7 in Japanese.) I thought 7 was a cool number!! That being said, I don't regret it since I drew what I wanted. ...I'm regretting a bit!!

brittle basin
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I would keep every arc 'cause Oda is a great writer who makes no mistakes. OdaHaa

distant vine
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I think if Drake captured a huge part of an arc I would have removed him

ashen perch
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lmao he said "Nibukai" too, just TWO warlords 😭

sturdy steeple
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Moria doesn't really add much to the story if I am honest.
Mihawk could've been replaced by anyone else as a title holder.

hazy turret
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Skypiea definitely has a lot of fat that couple be trimmed

hasty sable
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Skypiea can stay but Ganfall should be humbled

distant vine
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Going straight from Alabasta to LRLL...

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Itd be so peak 😭

brittle basin
stone terrace
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Syrup village is getting nuked

distant vine
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Alabasta straight to Enies Lobby would be a generational run

hazy turret
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Lrll truthers

barren token
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I like pretty much every arc and wouldn't really want to cut any but if we're talking for the benefit of the overall story I think we can cut

woven talon
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Okay I spot checked viz. I didn’t see anything too crazy different tho

stone terrace
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We meet usopp at baratie dw

graceful belfry
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Lmao

woven talon
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Lmk if there’s anything else to look into

distant vine
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Syrup Village doesnt need to get cut, it just needs Kuro to be a good antagonist @stone terrace

vale heath
sturdy steeple
ashen perch
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I mean you can cut like anything from the story but I just think it would be bad and I would rather the series be even longer than it already is 😔

distant vine
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If Kuro was actually smart, Syrup Village is a respectable arc

hazy echo
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Huh now that I think about it

hazy turret
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Did we need thriller bark and whole cake? I feel like those are the most side tour-y arcs

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Besides Skypiea

vale gust
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cut act 3 of wano to 50 chapters max ong.

indigo yacht
vale heath
woven talon
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I was a bit concerned about a couple of points this week as Sengoku is vague about the marine who disappeared and the gorosei are vague about what would happen if the fighting wasn’t stopped

distant vine
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Yes we need Thriller Bark

hazy echo
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Would Kata achieve awakening with the Dragon DF if he had it

native seal
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I'm shooting thriller bark

distant vine
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Sanji fans are kinda annoying about Whole Cake but it has Sulong Carrot so I'll spare it

grand flower
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Hajrudin is a lot like Luffy. Just like Loki

barren token
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Cut this cut that how about you guys cut some bitches

vale gust
ashen perch
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wtf

ashen perch
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that would hurt them

distant vine
brittle basin
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woven talon
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also that arc is worth keeping alone for the luffy putting the zombie back into the grave joke

hazy turret
graceful belfry
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I need it too

ashen perch
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if we're talking sidetrips, we should cut Marineford

sturdy steeple
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I'd cut down Dressrosa as well with Law. I cannot stand that backstory of his that he made up for people to feel bad for him.

woven talon
ashen perch
hazy turret
brittle basin
vale gust
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cut water 7 and ennies lobby

native seal
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we're cutting the entire series

hazy turret
brittle basin
stone terrace
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We can fit amazon lily into 2 chapters i think

ashen perch
hazy turret
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Arsal I don’t believe you

sturdy steeple
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I think he did, Rokaya.

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I'm the source.

hazy turret
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That’s fair

distant vine
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I wouldn't cut Dressrosa but I think I would block Oda from being a cornball and resetting the progression by having Doflamingo lift his castle

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Such a waste of time

prisma yacht
ashen perch
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I imagine when he says 5 Warlords, one cut is DEFINITELY Doflamingo because he was originally just supposed to be the Joker of the Beast Pirates

sturdy steeple
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Well tbh you can cut down Dressrosa and have most of its plotpoints be resolved in Wano or idk

indigo yacht
distant vine
vale gust
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dressrosa is immaculate

woven talon
pine urchin
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But then you wouldn’t have Sabo

hazy turret
barren token
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Doflamingo is cut?

ashen perch
pine urchin
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😆

ashen perch
vale gust
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just cut the entire pre ts and begin the story at post ts

barren token
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Dressrosa is my favourite arc can we not talk about cutting it it makes me upset :(

ashen perch
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(oda would never answer those questions about men so you know this is false)

stone terrace
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Oh

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Punk hazard

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GONE

sturdy steeple
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Current Oda would cut down fights of the fleet members and it would be peak.

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Like no one cares about their fights I am sorry

ashen perch
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Punk Hazard is already the result of cuts

distant vine
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Idk if what happened with Big Mom is how I would like it

graceful belfry
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Idk about removing or changing anything from/about the manga, but I do think nearly the same effect being discussed could be achieved if every major arc was trimmed down by 10-20 chapters, and much wouldn’t be lost

hazy turret
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Oh I thought cut as in like gym and losing weight

distant vine
brittle basin
indigo yacht
pine urchin
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Is there a flashback you’d cut out

indigo yacht
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Oda just can’t detour fights now

native seal
barren token
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I'm starting to think this conversation isn't actually about improving one pieces pacing and is more just a reskin of talking about arcs we don't like

pine urchin
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Say fisher tiger

hazy turret
ashen perch
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Oda was planning to do a fire island arc and an ice island arc, and then he thought "ughh, too long" so he made up Akainu v Aokiji to combine the two arcs

woven talon
brittle basin
sturdy steeple
pine urchin
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Fish man island is a drag imo

woven talon
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To match lodestar and their role as a pointer

ashen perch
brittle basin
indigo yacht
ashen perch
woven talon
stone terrace
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What if oda didnt do that thing where characters are just running around for chapters on end

vale gust
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hopefully anime shows the fights

stone terrace
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We could reduce the chapter count by 20%

ashen perch
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running around is what keeps the story from being longer

indigo yacht
woven talon
brittle basin
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Does "lode" mean guide?

sturdy steeple
barren token
woven talon
vale gust
ashen perch
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he decided that on his own

woven talon
barren token
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Tontatta arc where the main villain is also a Tontatta might have gone hard

woven talon
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But this is old English shiz

vale gust
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oda is a heightist. did an arc abt giants but not about dwarfs

woven talon
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That’s why no translator would think

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Lode poneglyph

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Till later context

sturdy steeple
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We had Dressrosa with tontattas so we good

barren token
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Uwu

woven talon
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Road works out perfectly well tho

ashen perch
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you guys are talking about cuts but really

woven talon
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Might even be related since lode is basically path poneglyph

ashen perch
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I would have rather had the unrestrained Oda...

woven talon
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But I like old sailing terms and old English in op

ashen perch
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maybe if he was like immortal and eternally youthful

trim lily
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freak oda

indigo yacht
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If we find the fountain of youth we dip Oda into it

woven talon
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Makes it feel more legit pirate in its lore

barren token
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Oda where he doesn't have to cut 5 pages off of every chapter...

ashen perch
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man...

indigo yacht
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I want an unrestraint oda like back in early one piece where he had all the time in the world

sturdy steeple
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I enjoy One Piece for what it is

ashen perch
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its actually more than 5, its 30 pages of drafts to 17 pages according to him

woven talon
sturdy steeple
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Yes, even Thriller Bark

pine urchin
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I mean op hasn’t been a pirate manga for a while

barren token
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Man...

sturdy steeple
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Some of it at lesat

indigo yacht
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People complain post TS doesn’t feel like pre TS because we don’t get time to explore but that’s because Oda is an old man that has to finish the story eventually

vale heath
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I like one piece

woven talon
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Shaman King author added 30 chapters and a bunch of pages I the kanzenban

ashen perch
woven talon
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Dragon ball got a new ending

graceful belfry
trim lily
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oda should let me take over half his workload

barren token
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One piece has never been a pirate manga these mother fuckers are not having navel battles

woven talon
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Would be cool if OP got some stuff added in for Kanzenban

trim lily
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have the strawhats ever used the cannons on their ship

vale gust
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yes

indigo yacht
graceful belfry
vale gust
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usopp fired one on garps ship

indigo yacht
trim lily
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huge

graceful belfry
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Usopp damn near kills Johnny and Yosaku. Imagine that

ashen perch
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Oda will bring back cannons but with Pluton

indigo yacht
warm sierra
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ussops biggest feat

vale gust
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shouldve killed helmeppo

graceful belfry
sturdy steeple
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Oda is so dumb. He created a stupid trade-off where you get cool powers but you cannot even swim... In my pirate manga...???? Author is such a dumbass dude.....

pine urchin
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Kinda crazy that usopp doesn’t do some haki infused bullets

sage temple
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Almost like he doesn't have armament Haki

trim lily
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the strawhats forgot to learn haki

pine urchin
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Or has it. Make him useful

trim lily
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usopp should pick up a gun

vale gust
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he shouldve sea stone bullets instead

warm sierra
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Kuma sent him to the island where you get useless plants instead of the island where you learn haki

lofty fern
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Hello everyone, happy sunday. How was the official? Any big changes?

wet heron
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word word, hope all is good. I’ve been more offline too due to home renovation and related work WAKAINU

sturdy steeple
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I've heard that Oda told Robin's VA that he's still thinking on whether he should give her haki when she asked. Idk how true that is though

woven talon
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I think if Oda had cut out the warlords it would r changed who the emperors were btw

barren token
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Sending usopp to haki Island

ashen perch
final trench
woven talon
vale gust
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has usopp used obs haki since dressrosa?

royal orchid
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good afternoon also manga

indigo yacht
barren token
woven talon
sturdy steeple
wet heron
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Katakuri ate the momo dragon df

vale gust
royal orchid
wet heron
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Instead of kaido one

barren token
indigo yacht
vale gust
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what is oda even saving these basic ass power ups for

ashen perch
indigo yacht
final trench
sage temple
indigo yacht
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But a younger and more impressionable Oda decided to make the warlords instead

woven talon
ashen perch
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yeah

woven talon
sage temple
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If Hancock was an emperor Loki would've handled that double time

ashen perch
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Crocodile being the first emperor would have been fun actually, Luffy's first loss

woven talon
ashen perch
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truthfully, the 5 year thing is a bit of a lie, I go by the 10 year timeline personally

sage temple
indigo yacht
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Socrates I think you don’t have the context of the conversation

indigo yacht
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We’re talking about how the story was different at the start of the story and what cuts were made/elements added

woven talon
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We aren’t talking about the OP world we know lol

grand flower
woven talon
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We’re saying if Oda had the 5 year plan still in mind

sage temple
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I'll just leave now

grand flower
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I heard he be saying the craziest shit to his mother

final trench
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Croc could probably be yonko lvl

vale gust
woven talon
sturdy steeple
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Socrates cannot handle this flashback any longer.... He needs Loki to return ASAP......

ashen perch
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I can see Oda originally planning to wrap up the series in 10 years with a couple of years on East Blue, 5-ish years on the Yonko, and maybe the last 3-ish on the final saga.

grand flower
woven talon
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Maybe travel with ace

sturdy steeple
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Please save the Loki society, Goda....

woven talon
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To hunt BB

indigo yacht
sage temple
sturdy steeple
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You are Loki's strongest warrior. You have to stay strong.

woven talon
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Infact

barren token
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Did pero already have the candy fruit or was big mom just playing favourites with the dragon fruit

indigo yacht
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So arabasta-> something -> FMI -> Amazon Lily maybe

ashen perch
woven talon
ashen perch
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not 5 years

woven talon
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Think about it, we go off on an adventure 10k meters up instead of down

vale heath
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What if I got 10k meters west

warm sierra
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Kaido saved BMs food themeing

ashen perch
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didnt Katakuri use CoC as a child or am I making that up

barren token
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Big mom just looked at him and knew. He should be a dragon

agile imp
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Katakuri doesn't have CoC at all

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IIRC

barren token
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He does

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He absolutely does

ashen perch
vale heath
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He has it in PW4

agile imp
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Lemme check

ashen perch
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yea he does have CoC lol

vale heath
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I know that for a fact

barren token
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There is no lemme check

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He has it he and luffy clashed with it

lofty fern
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Nice. Viz does make it clear that its Imu talking. He seems a bit more calm than in TCB. Also its more clear that Saturn is talking metaphorically and not literally

agile imp
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Oh he does, my memory was playing tricks on me

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I think I was mixing up his CoC with his mom's

woven talon
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I think it’d be

Arabasta —-> FMI (Ace vs BB happens simultaneously) —-> Amazon Lily —-> Impel down —> MF (time skip) —-> Wano —-> Elbaf —-> final war

sturdy steeple
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Maybe anime sprinkled some haki trails there

ashen perch
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yea I thought he used CoC right there

indigo yacht
ashen perch
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I guess he was just pissed

woven talon
sturdy steeple
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But I mean

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He could've had it

indigo yacht
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Something about the way mini Katakuri is drawn and being on top of BMs shoulder like a parrot

agile imp
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Fun fact: Pirate Warriors 4 is the first time we ever saw Kid use CoC lmao

vale heath
ashen perch
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idk, the point is that BM could have atleast sensed that he has it somehow

sturdy steeple
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I think even as a child Kat was already a decent fighter

agile imp
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Still better than that one anime only scene

woven talon
ashen perch
lofty fern
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On the other hand, Kuma's line does seem a bit out of character. "Save your breath" is rather curt for him

barren token
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She just knew kata was built different

lofty fern
sturdy steeple
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That's the reason people argue about Gaban and Sanji.

agile imp
woven talon
barren token
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Why did oda interrupt the conversation....

sturdy steeple
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Blackbeard said that his haki seems strong but he never mentioned conquerors.

ashen perch
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I think we'll find out for sure when Sanji reveals what Gaban told him I guess lol

leaden rivet
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Which island does Kat’s flashback take place do we know

ashen perch
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well, maybe its like uh

barren token
vale heath
lofty fern
barren token
ashen perch
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maybe it starts leaking out when you're close to unleashing it or unlocking it

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like Sanji is close, so Gaban will have sensed it

woven talon
sturdy steeple