also-manga

[lofty fern]

Take off those fake Oni horns, Kata. You don't need them lol

[warm falcon]

maybe only the COC can prevent the domi reversi?

[woven heron]

[warm falcon]

Dorry and Broggy are super strong but

[woven heron]

They cant touch Luffy

[stone terrace]

This isnt even the same big mom

She doesnt have napoleon on

[vestal heath]

yeah especially her

[lofty fern]

People forgetting those horns are a kaido exclusive

[woven heron]

Luffy gonna anhilate demon army as Xebec with one Bajragan

Ppl just overhype demons

[lofty fern]

That would mean killing them all

[woven heron]

Sad but true Metallica

[lofty fern]

Xebec was okay with killing his family, I don't think Luffy would be

[warm falcon]

the white reverse of the black domi reversi

[woven heron]

Xebec prio his family

Its not easy situation

[icy wolf]

do you guys think blackbeard is different than other davy family members or can they all eat 2 devilfruits

[lofty fern]

This would just crush the pieces, not reverse them

[woven heron]

I think its Yami ability but who knows

[warm falcon]

i dont think luffy s gonna crush them

[lofty fern]

The Davy family doesn't seem to be any different from normal humans

[woven heron]

If they attack his crew ou hi gonna eat them

He*

[warm falcon]

its too early to know

but i considered this yes

[woven heron]

Plus Loki dont have any rumorse to killing them

Loki and Luffy gonna end that fight

[warm falcon]

maybe it was what happened in Harald incident?

Loki killed them all?

[icy wolf]

true i guess but atleast blackbeard is stated to have a weird body

and “not sleeping”

[warm falcon]

full of metallica references

[icy wolf]

if they dont have a weird body or something im not sure what the significance of being related to davy jones is

[woven heron]

Metallica

[icy wolf]

unless they all have to follow a weird prophecy from him

[warm falcon]

megadeth is better tho, but i like both

[woven heron]

Megadeth based

[warm falcon]

except some Dave Donald Duck parts

[stone terrace]

I mean its possible they all can eat multiple fruits

Blackbeard just being the only one to do so

[lofty fern]

I'm beginning to wonder if that's just rumor and hearsay rather than fact

[woven heron]

I must to play tornado of souls to hail Davy D Jones

[warm falcon]

Davy Jones is a metaphor for the Otherworld, they can have some literal or metaphorical (or both) connection to these multiple fruits

VP said the DF are related to the Souls

[magic sparrow]

Is the theory of rocks having 2 souls still possible?

[lofty fern]

Also, how many of the Davy Clan are like Eris, Davy through marriage?

[woven heron]

https://youtu.be/L8HhOMNrulE?si=n3wx3THuDxc0sz0p all hail Davy D Jones og pirate from Void Century

[warm falcon]

original? Joyboy isnt the first?
or you mean the best?

[icy wolf]

i dont know why that would be the case

[urban lodge]

Devil fruits are tied to the body though, as we saw with Law's personality swap

[woven heron]

Joyboy was first but og like old school

[warm falcon]

or how much they intermarriage? the endogamia can distribute the Davy blood

[lofty fern]

That's because it actually changes the person's DNA, not their soul or anything

[stone terrace]

Could literally be any sword but maybe

[warm falcon]

VP literally said Souls exist, its a historical reference to that scientist who said the soul weighs X grams

[lofty fern]

There are a lot of sabers that look like that

[urban lodge]

Yeah, so it can't be multiple souls or anything like that

[lofty fern]

Imu has an entire room of swords to choose from. Also it's not like he always has a sword in there

I think after that scene we don't see the sword again

[urban lodge]

I think it's more likely to be the Nefertari family sword or something

[icy wolf]

wtf happened to lily

[warm falcon]

it can be both, it has a natural and a supernatural element

[lofty fern]

If that was the case, I don't think he'd move it and not to cut up pictures

[magic sparrow]

So the theory can't work?

[urban lodge]

That BB has multiple souls? No

[warm falcon]

he hides in a mantle to take the other's power, theres something fishy there

[urban lodge]

Could also just be the Nerona sword

[lofty fern]

The only way I can see it is if Teach and Eris dies, and Xebec or Imu does something supernatural with the bodies

[magic sparrow]

Like Imu possessing their corpses?

[urban lodge]

I mean he can still have multiple souls I guess, it just can't be the reason he has multiple fruits

[lofty fern]

Like a reanimation or something? Or Imu agrees to use Rocks' soul to save his son

[icy wolf]

do you guys think davy clan are buccaneers or was the celestial dragon line irrelevant

[magic sparrow]

There's a theory that Rocks will get possessed by Imu, and will kill Eris/attempt to kill BB

[lofty fern]

The latter

[magic sparrow]

Maybe rocks makes a deal with imu to save BB after he almost kills him

[fluid cedar]

He’s not marked how’l that be possible

[icy wolf]

oh yeah i forgot blackbeard is regarded as special because of his bloodline

[urban lodge]

It's like Queen's line about Lunarians

[icy wolf]

so davy clan has to have somethign unique about them

[stone terrace]

God valley fr was a hell of a misinformation campaign

[lofty fern]

I think that part was just about him being Davy

[stone terrace]

Even big mom giving kaido the df was a lie

[lofty fern]

If Imu's power can take over the other Davy clan, Rocks isn't immune

[magic sparrow]

Maybe he gets marked through the battle. I see GV ending in a few months anyway

[lofty fern]

I think sooner, barring breaks

[fluid cedar]

Imu wasn’t in their bodies they were just turned into demons

[lofty fern]

That's still having them under his control

[magic sparrow]

I'm still wondering how it leads to bb's ability to have multiple devil fruits .

Maybe that's a trait of their clan originating from Void Century

[warm falcon]

speaking of Lunarians, its a clear paralel to the Last Mohican and the last Davys in the God Valley

[magic sparrow]

Did imu turn them remotely before arriving on GV?

[fluid cedar]

It was off screen idk

but they were demons before imu emerged from saturn

[magic sparrow]

I'm interested to see how gv ends and if the wg version of garp Roger taking down rocks has some truth in it

[glass plume]

i doubt it

[stone terrace]

I cant even believe anything atp

[magic sparrow]

People were confused if that was Imu, or if imu gave someone that ability

Also that cracked theory of imu controlling eris and sneak attacking rocks lol

[glass plume]

Imu wouldn't need to attack Xebec physically for that to hurt

[warm falcon]

for you who are americans, please, GOd Valley resembles a landscape from certain regions of the USA right?

[stone terrace]

Idk

[magic sparrow]

Yeah. And maybe the shock of that allows Imu to turn Rocks

[warm falcon]

thats the morale of One Piece

[stone terrace]

New mexico

Colorado

[warm falcon]

or maybe its a blend with China

[magic sparrow]

Valley of God's in Utah

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_of_the_Gods

[proud pivot]

Dudeeee isn't that from the transformers movie

[warm falcon]

yes thank you i have seen

[magic sparrow]

The valley of gods in Utah

[stone terrace]

Never watched them

[proud pivot]

Have you seen the show

[stone terrace]

No

[warm falcon]

the praying hands in Arizona, but im not sure

[stone terrace]

Its my greatest shame

[warm falcon]

Sengusopp

Usogoku; uso = liar

[lofty fern]

I do wonder what causes this scene. Especially as we see it set up now

[wraith mantle]

I think Oda just forgot about this 😭

[icy wolf]

why isnt imu in kaidos top 5

[urban lodge]

Same reason Garp isn't

He doesn't respect WG people

[wraith mantle]

That list wasn’t about respect tho

It was clearly a powerscaling tier list

[icy wolf]

he said like are you as good as the people that can stand up to me

[stone terrace]

then garp would be there would he not lol

[fluid cedar]

They haven’t met for that exchange to happen

[wraith mantle]

Or kaido is just bad at powerscaling

[magic sparrow]

@glass plume also, if imu does this, it might be foreshadowing for the reveal that Imu is a body-hopper too

[hazy turret]

Or garp isn’t all that

[lofty fern]

I doubt it, he just redrew the whole scene that came before it

[tranquil blade]

I mean every single one of Kaido's top 5 is a pirate

[warm falcon]

indeed arizona.. it can be a combination with Utah

[icy wolf]

i wonder how shanks stopped kaido

they didnt fight and kaido definitely wasnt scared

but kaido still put him in the top 5

[lofty fern]

Punched him in the face like Rocks and told him to go on home

[rich hornet]

That’s not to say they haven’t clashed in the past

[warm falcon]

plothole 🕳️

[icy wolf]

i forgot they were talking about pirates

oden>big mom i guess

[warm falcon]

oh

[golden valley]

I mean, notice how its people Kaido has praised

He hasn’t directly spoken about Shanks but he views him highly

[lofty fern]

I also don't think he had a clear Idea what Imu was. It would seem like a monster from off an island to him rather than a person.

[golden valley]

He clearly respects Rocks strength because he followed him

[lofty fern]

Didn't respect BM after jacking her up

[iron oriole]

Nothing to respect for BM

[urban lodge]

Yeah most of them probably had no idea what Imu even was

I imagine only Rocks really knew

[icy wolf]

the strongest woman in the series is aslo such a big joke

i love her though

[hazy turret]

The entire southwest is like that, it’s not really specific to a single state

Err not all of it but the entire region has places that look like that

[warm falcon]

yeah thanks

[golden valley]

Kaido’s top 5 never seemed like his “strongest characters ever” Its people he’s been around/seen thats worth respecting

[warm falcon]

i mean, shanks you

[hazy turret]

[lofty fern]

If you just look at the Imu/Saturn combo, it looks like an evil spider demon with shadows and creepy eyes coming off of it. You'd think it was a monster that popped up through the abyss of hell

[rich hornet]

At the same time, he respects strength more than about anything

[azure spindle]

Yea and I think it's specifically pirates

[warm falcon]

[tranquil blade]

He never put Garp in his top 5 because every time he met him he ran away

[lofty fern]

Well strength, but with his own bias to it

[rich hornet]

Exactly

[icy wolf]

how strong was oden do you guys think

[warm falcon]

its so beautiful, earth is full of amazing places

[icy wolf]

i've never really thought about it that much

[urban lodge]

Around the admirals maybe

[strong wadi]

big mom haters when they finally learn this was the truth all along

[tranquil blade]

I mean Big Mom is weaker than any of those 5

[wet condor]

'Bout admiral level, yeah

If he had lived longer he would've been on that same level as Kaido and all those other guys

[icy wolf]

weaker than oden?

[warm falcon]

the strongest characters are the moms of the giant top warriors 🙃

[rich hornet]

Yeah probably

[glass plume]

i really don't like the idea that Imu needs to body-hop to function

[wet condor]

I dunno 'bout that one lol

[glass plume]

i would hate it if Imu doesn't have a "real body" so say

[rich hornet]

Rouge is strong FR

[warm falcon]

basically a virus

[glass plume]

yeah i hate that idea

[urban lodge]

There's clearly a main body

[golden valley]

Is this really how you talk about a crew and their yonko that cant stand up to you https://scans-hot.planeptune.us/manga/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics/0930-008.png

[warm falcon]

he means about power

[glass plume]

what?

no i don't lol

[olive sigil]

I think this is just a way to not show us the real Imu yet

[warm falcon]

oops

[glass plume]

hopefully

[scenic dirge]

It is kind of funny how literal people take that panel lol

Like as if Kaido ONLY acknowledges the strength of those 5 people in particular and no one else

[tranquil blade]

The panel is really just an excuse to hype Shanks more tbh

[glass plume]

isn't it the people who Kaido thought could be Joyboy?

[strong wadi]

Nah, she's cooking Oden

[alpine trench]

Easily defeating Oden

[scenic dirge]

It’s literally just 5 people that left an impression on Kaido when it came to their strength

[icy wolf]

he was thinking about luffy saying he could be pirate king

[rich hornet]

Oden pretty much beat Kaido

[tranquil blade]

but Big Mom can't even cook prime rib

[golden valley]

Let alone boil Oden 🔥

[strong wadi]

Garp is built different, what can i say...

[wraith mantle]

did imu not leave an impression?

[glass plume]

who knew destroying mountains and punching warships would have a result

[wet condor]

And he respects their character maybe for some reason

[strong wadi]

This is just Oda not wanting to spoil that Imu is a powerhouse and that kaido had fought imu

[wraith mantle]

yeah exactly

[wet condor]

It shouldn't be viewed as only

He just respects those guys

Because their strong

[azure spindle]

Garp really showed us that daily workouts work for becoming a top tier

[wet condor]

And maybe some other qualities

[tranquil blade]

Idk if Oda even planned for Kaido to have met Imu in the past when he was drawing that panel

[wet condor]

Namely strength though

[icy wolf]

hes strictly talking about pirates

[wraith mantle]

exactly, the answer is oda didn't want to talk about imu just yet

[wet condor]

Why are Big Mom and Garp not there? Who knows. But it doesn't mean Kaido didn't respect their strength

[wet condor]

I mean that's the meta-reason, yeah

[icy wolf]

hes asking himself if luffy is better than these other great pirates

[strong wadi]

I feel like at that point at least, he had already planned on Imu at God Valley, but i guess you mean kaido joining the fray?

[golden valley]

I realistically don’t think Kaido actually ends up fighting Imu but if he does, then it only highlights why his top 5 isn’t a metric for anything (if that wasn’t clear enough already).

[tranquil blade]

Yes

[glass plume]

Kaido would've loved to fight Goku

[wet condor]

You'll have to ask Oda why he chose those 5 precisely and why he didn't include some others

[golden valley]

From a shallow attack btw

[scenic dirge]

But why does it matter who isn’t on there when it’s not his exclusive “top 5” or whatever lol. If someone isn’t on there, it doesn’t mean Kaido doesn’t also acknowledge their strength. It’s just a fun little panel lol

[hazy turret]

Yeah this has to be the people who can beat kaido

[wet condor]

It could be something completely unrelated to Kaido's character or his impression of there character

[hazy turret]

Big mom is equal to him

[strong wadi]

Unfortunately it just adds to BM slander by the ignorant

[wet condor]

Like Oda just prefers those 5 characters to Big Mom and Garp

[wraith mantle]

that panel ruined powerscaling because mfs think oden is on the same level as rocks

[scenic dirge]

Still think she’s coming back?

[icy wolf]

nah he says theres only a handful of people that can fight him

[glass plume]

he is

[azure spindle]

Oden seems like the weakest one for sure

[glass plume]

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[hazy turret]

That’s not true because big mom was fighting him a few weeks before

[azure spindle]

Almost weird he's in there tbh but he gave kaido PTSD so

[strong wadi]

Based off God Valley, it looks like Oda is back on being a good writer, which means BM is definitely coming back.

[alpine trench]

Lmfao

Adam back at it again

[azure spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-kurt-angle-100-yard-stare-what-are-you-serious-gif-2300272243480923027

[hazy turret]

Arsal leaves but Adam is making up for it

[glass plume]

Kaido and Big Mom should stay defeated imo

[strong wadi]

You’ve got me all weekend

[azure spindle]

Oda brought them back in a flashback that's all you get sorry

[icy wolf]

idk im just going off of what kaido said himself

he said those people are the ones who can "fight him" not beat him

[glass plume]

didn't Big Mom and Kaido fight eachother to a stalemate for 3 days or something

[icy wolf]

its inconsistent

[azure spindle]

Yea

[hazy turret]

[wraith mantle]

was that during wano?

[golden valley]

Kaido doesn’t respect bm

[wraith mantle]

why tho

she is strong enough

and a fellow yonko

[glass plume]

he absolutely does respect her, lol

it's silly to think that he doesn't

[icy wolf]

really

[azure spindle]

Maybe it's because he's still stronger than her

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/keffa-karceno-gif-6784164235141014765

[icy wolf]

in the most recent chapter he rocked her ass in a sneak attack and took the devilfruit she got

and he says she let herself go in wano

[alpine trench]

They have a sibling relationship

[icy wolf]

does he really respect her

[golden valley]

His attitude towards her is weird in itself. Called her pathetic. Doesn’t consider his fight with her as “serious” as he mentions its been a while that someone could actually fight toe to toe with him

[alpine trench]

But he’s sad she’s defeated

[azure spindle]

They got a sibling dynamic they probably have never fought seriously

[alpine trench]

Yeah

[azure spindle]

Like trying to kill each other seriously

[alpine trench]

They have fought with the intent to kill each other as with act 2

One Piece fans when nuance

[vale heath]

I like Ulti

[golden valley]

Is ordering her to be knocked off the waterfall not attempted murder 💔
They also considered they’d finish their death match after they complete their goal or whatever. Dunno if it’s accurate to say they never tried to kill each other especially in the current day, more like, killing each other is incredibly difficult so they just don’t follow through, albeit, also paired with Kaido’s whole code. He had BM cuffed and could have just ended her right then and there

[wraith mantle]

cover story ended.. no more ulti for you 💔

[vale heath]

Unfortunately…

[glass plume]

wait it's the end of the coverstory?

[vale heath]

Sure looks it

[wraith mantle]

yeah

[glass plume]

i would jump in excitement, but i expected there to be some sort of climax

[vale heath]

The climax was the completion of the journey

We are reading one piece, if you’ll recall

What’s more important than the destination?

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-thinking-gif-9540588

[vale heath]

The journey, that old adage

Friends we made along the way and all

[glass plume]

ah i see

[vale heath]

The overwhelmingly central theme of one piece

[glass plume]

Yamato certainly did get new friends

[vale heath]

The important part of the Yamato cover story was the journey, not its end

[glass plume]

one things for sure, i'm glad we'll be out of Wano for a while

[shell scroll]

wait yamato cover story ended

oh crap 1162 is out

[dense rapids]

The 3 people Imu fears most

[prisma yacht]

Goodmorning

[potent pier]

One of the Ancient weapons Imu can't control

[icy wolf]

modern day joyboy davy jones and poseidon

also the sun god, earth god, sea god

imu is forest god

[lunar cliff]

watch out for the green bull fans

[grand flower]

Roommate asked me to edit his application to a fellowship

Fuck chat GPT it’s chat GP-me

[final trench]

Precisely

Im glad you have the colored version

[proud pivot]

glaze gpt

[grand flower]

Hell naw

[gaunt flicker]

Imu representing the Blue Planet has been a theory for a while, so they might be the Earth God

[icy wolf]

the mural really sounds like the forest god is imu

[gaunt flicker]

or Imu isn't supposed to be one of the four gods but a devil

[wraith mantle]

i wonder if current luffy's haki mastery is enough to slow down the HK's regen

[gaunt flicker]

perhaps

[icy wolf]

“the forest god sent forth demons”

yeah

and we know imu was there during the void century

[warm falcon]

this 'send forth' is sooo ambiguous

[vale heath]

ChatGPT fruit

With my LLM LLM no mi I can generate endless bullshit about any topic that may or may not be accurate depending upon an unquantifiable number of factors

[tardy isle]

Random thought but wanted to share,

What if xebec was the previous greatest swordsman?

Seems kinda likely atm?

[steel stirrup]

Bro was just great period

[proud pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/mihawk-one-piece-agenda-piece-mihawk-upscale-mrbeep-gif-4652002396828019758

[tardy isle]

Yea for sure

Just thought how often that title has been passed

[glass plume]

i don't think Xebec needs more glaze atp

[tardy isle]

Xebec - roger - ??? - mihawk

[glass plume]

him being the world's greatest swordsman wouldn't add much

[tardy isle]

Its not really glaze

Titles are only as worth it as their is ppl to challenge them

[dense rapids]

Official says “tamed”

So that could mean the forest god reversed them

[glass plume]

still, i think it's unnecessary to give Xebec that title when we already see what he is capable of

let someone else have that title in this era

[tranquil blade]

There's nothing really wrong with him having that title

[dense rapids]

I mean if he’s the strongest he’s the strongest?

[tranquil blade]

Like just because he's also the strongest pirate around doesn't mean he can't also be the strongest swordsman

[dense rapids]

Think people just don’t want xebec to have anything related to Mihawk because it downplays shanks 🤣

[glass plume]

i'd like it if there is someone stronger out there who doesn't take part of the God Valley or the politics

[steel stirrup]

Not really

[steel stirrup]

WELL THATS TOO DAMNED BAD

[glass plume]

i genuinely don't care what it upplays and what it downplays, i just don't think it's necessary, lol

[steel stirrup]

Fuck around and find out Mihawk was here too

[proud pivot]

polkijuytrdswaq

cat ran across my keyboard

[glass plume]

Xebec can be just as great as he is without having every imaginable title shoved onto him

[proud pivot]

smh

[icy wolf]

mihawk truly has the best agenda

[dense rapids]

[icy wolf]

almost every other chapter is a W for him in some way or another

[dense rapids]

Bro about to one shot Bumgoku

True right hand of the Pirate God

[warm falcon]

if you want to search yourself

虚無に息吹あり
森の神は魔を追わせ
太陽は戦火を広げるばかりだ

the verb in question is 追わせ /owase/

[glass plume]

starting to believe that the way to free the domi reversi'd people will just be Nika freeing them, lol

[grand flower]

Brook probably can too

[dense rapids]

People say Luffy and Bonney

[grand flower]

Music can move the soul

[dense rapids]

But lowkey doesn’t make sense to me

Because what if there weren’t two Nika’s in the past

[glass plume]

i hope that he does this to cure Gunko

[frozen aspen]

https://twitter.com/kingbeastyV2/status/1976847209481244856

Nusjuro (🐉 Celestial dragon 🐲) (@kingbeastyV2)

The gorosei and holy knights having a loving meal 🥰

X · Oct 11, 2025, 3:07 AM

annual meeting of frauds

[warm falcon]

so the Forest God (mori no kami) and demons (Ma) are not necessarily ALLIES

[dense rapids]

Lowkey think people are stuck changed unless you get the book from Imu

[frigid gulch]

https://x.com/PookiePiece/status/1977032371749990852?t=HLIsRxOD88fckKnzRQV9OQ&s=33

Pookie (@PookiePiece)

Vincent Chansard confirmed that right now, the characters he’s most interested in from the Elbaf arc are Rocks and Loki

X · Oct 11, 2025, 3:23 PM

[dense rapids]

Basically sugar 2.0

[frigid gulch]

Generational Rocks glaze in the manga and anime

[dense rapids]

Gonna be called a top anime character of all time when he’s get animated

Bro getting gojo level glaze and he’s only appeared for 8 chapters 🤣

[dull berry]

Elbaf feels close in anime... even though its still gonna be like half a year

[dense rapids]

By the time the anime comes we would’ve seen Loki and Luffy vs Imu

[glass plume]

it's not surprising when all he has gotten is hype moments and aura

[icy wolf]

all my goats in 1 pic❤️

[dense rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-mouth-drooling-mouth-open-open-mouth-gif-8120874980806799832

[icy wolf]

Wimu top 1

[dense rapids]

I need more

[frigid gulch]

Rocks is the old gen Gojo..

[dense rapids]

Loki and Joy Boy only two future characters who gonna match this aura

[glass plume]

plenty more

[dense rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-gear-5-luffy-elbaph-one-piece-elbaph-loki-one-piece-one-piece-loki-gif-6766770417161299192

[frigid gulch]

True

[dense rapids]

Naw

[frigid gulch]

I’m looking forward to what Loki will do

[dense rapids]

There’s a difference with the aura Xebec is getting

[pine scaffold]

WE WON @wet heron

[frigid gulch]

This is aura

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-power-up-powering-up-yonko-kaido-gif-26410735

imagine this for Xebec

[glass plume]

or arrogance

[potent pier]

He gonna animate the fight between Imu and rocks/Roger/Garp?

[frigid gulch]

That’s anime gas

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-kaido-yamato-animation-vincent-chansard-gif-27453020

imagine this for Xebec

[dense rapids]

Simply laughed in the presence of god

[frigid gulch]

Well idk. Is he saying that he can handle it alone?

[pine scaffold]

one shots Garling impact frames

https://tenor.com/view/zoro-vs-king-king-the-wildfire-wildfire-beast-pirates-kaido-gif-889561240701720366

[dull berry]

By the time anime gets to the current chapter we are probably sailing to Laughtale

[frigid gulch]

Also looking forward to Zoro mastering conq

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-1144-lucci-rob-rob-lucci-gif-18102215556776409432

[dense rapids]

2026 gonna be amazing

[pine scaffold]

idk what OP fans are expecting when we return to Elbaf

like how is it gonna surpass the hype we have at GV rn?

[dense rapids]

God Killer Loki

He inherited Xebec’s aura

[pine scaffold]

He'll need to go crazy

[dense rapids]

That’s not his idol for any reason

[pine scaffold]

who is he going to show out against tho

[pine scaffold]

cuz the holy knights are weak

[dense rapids]

Who else

https://tenor.com/view/imu-one-piece-gif-10670798720414716467

[pine scaffold]

would be crazy

[dense rapids]

When Loki is unleashed the final war starts

[hoary steppe]

Sup gang

[pine scaffold]

hello

[hoary steppe]

Where ur gf

[dull berry]

We are going to see Xebec lose to Imu and then Loki wins against Imu because Luffy is there

[dense rapids]

^

Luffy and Loki might also have the two fruits

If it’s not Luffy and BB

We still don’t know what Loki’s power. Is

[urban lodge]

Loki will go extreme diff against demon Dorry and you will like it

[dense rapids]

The reveal is gonna be insane

[steel stirrup]

Wallahi

[pine scaffold]

if this happens, I lose all interest in whats happening in Elbaf

[dense rapids]

Loki is gonna look like Kaido x10

[pine scaffold]

u cannot get hyped this high and fight fucking Dorry

[steel stirrup]

Thats the worst idea I've ever heard

[urban lodge]

Well get used to it

Because it's gonna happen

[steel stirrup]

Be better

[dense rapids]

Sanji and Zoro fighting dorry and brogy

Luffy and Loki fighting Imu

[pine scaffold]

GV > Elbaf plot

[urban lodge]

Killingham and Sommers are like the most obvious Zoro and Sanji opponents of all time

[pine scaffold]

I do not want to return to the present

[dull berry]

We need to remember that Shanks captured Loki in the first place. So in that sense Shanks is still higher up in the tier list

[pine scaffold]

can we stay in GV forever

[dense rapids]

Weakling Trio victims

Don’t wanna see another holy knight on my screen

Worse than Bumhats

[urban lodge]

Sigh

[pine scaffold]

the Hks wont do anything after this arc

[steel stirrup]

Fuck all that

[pine scaffold]

they will lose to revos EOS

[dense rapids]

Shamrock only win is stabbing a jailed Loki

[steel stirrup]

Bruh

He following in his daddies footsteps of only attacking unarmed restrained people

Im starting to doubt

[icy wolf]

agreed

[dense rapids]

Bro didn’t want to wait for the smoke after Loki gets unleashed

[icy wolf]

luffy and loki vs imu
zoro vs killingham
sommers vs sanji

[pine scaffold]

The holy knights will go extreme diff with this guy and u will like it

[warm falcon]

they are all a bunch of cowards, we know

[steel stirrup]

Whole family is trash except for Shanks and thats because he was raised by Roger im like 95% sure hes only strong because of Roger

[dense rapids]

People said how would the revs fight the holy knights

They’re the same level 🤣

[steel stirrup]

Lmaooo

[pine scaffold]

Morley is folding some knights

[steel stirrup]

Even with the regen they are type ass

[dense rapids]

Ong

How are u ass with regen

[proud pivot]

Bro took the first flight out of there

[dense rapids]

Useless

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-ryokugyu-admiral-marines-greenbull-gif-2641408497189895001

[steel stirrup]

Muda muda

[wet condor]

I feel so bad for Penny

[ocean totem]

Damn our fandom is fickle as hell

You're ass if you're not at least stronger than an admiral these days lol

[warm falcon]

thats for sure. innate potencial + ambience + mentor.
but we cant understimate they are descendants of Kings

[steel stirrup]

Bean fuck that

[urban lodge]

Not Rocks = weak

[steel stirrup]

Fuck they have regen for

[dense rapids]

Dragon had me thinking holy knights were about to be next Akatsuki

[hazy turret]

Admirals reputation has been damaged too

[ocean totem]

Let's not other series compare here

[steel stirrup]

Trash

[pine scaffold]

Rocks low diffed an admiral

[wet condor]

Vincent is about to have Rocks looking better than EOS Luffy

[frigid gulch]

Rocks killed the admiral agenda

[ocean totem]

Why wouldn't you have regen if you're weak?

[ocean totem]

Wouldn't that be literally the point of the regen, because you get hurt a lot?

[steel stirrup]

What is the point then😭

[frigid gulch]

Rocks killing many agendas actually

[tranquil blade]

I mean an admiral got hypetooled in this flashback which does make them look worse, unless you just argue admirals sucked back then

[ocean totem]

??? To compensate for not being omnipotent

[ocean totem]

It shouldn't make them look worse

[warm falcon]

i never believed in this trash classification: Yonko, Admirals

[steel stirrup]

Holy Knights my ass

[ocean totem]

Nothing about where they stand ever changed

[frigid gulch]

Farmer admiral

[proud pivot]

The admiral was mentally nerfed

[pine scaffold]

wait until Oda reveals that admiral was the strongest one

[proud pivot]

I'll let it slide

[steel stirrup]

😭

[ocean totem]

What happened was people found out the hype they were building for years that never panned out was never legit

That's all

[tranquil blade]

but how people perceive where they stand definitely has changed for a lot of people

[frigid gulch]

Location*

[ocean totem]

That's a them problem

Oda was very clear about where admirals stood lol

[alpine trench]

I love One Piece

[woven heron]

2 absolute units

[glass plume]

I love Kagurabachi

[steel stirrup]

Even with the regen I'm having trouble taking them seriously

[warm falcon]

admirals are stronger than GK if you remove the regen

[ocean totem]

Plenty of things can be misleading, like how Xebec's personality ended up being is definitely not how people would talk about him

[vale heath]

You’re telling me that knowing more information about key events previously shrouded in mystery changes the dynamics I made up for myself????

[ocean totem]

But where the admirals stood is exactly where they always stood

[dense rapids]

He was more afraid of the celestial dragons than dying?

[steel stirrup]

Now that I know the narrator lies too I dont trust shit

[woven heron]

Admirals was never yonko tier ppl should just move on

[ocean totem]

Because they're not doing well against the most powerful people in the series?

[proud pivot]

He couldn't fight rocks properly because they were childhood friends

[ocean totem]

Come on now

[steel stirrup]

Yes

They are the top of the wg

They can't fight for shit

What are we doing

[warm falcon]

thats the morale of One Piece

[alpine trench]

Roger at his prime stronger btw but I agree with the Whitebeard thing

[pine scaffold]

People said Garling was on the same level as Roger, Garp and Whitebeard

[ocean totem]

Can't fight for shit...because they're not doing well against the most powerful people who ever lived?

[steel stirrup]

Losing to Rayleigh is one thing

But Sommers would've lost to Robin imo without it

Where is the threat

[ocean totem]

People were being dumb about it

That's not on Oda

[woven heron]

I agree i think Roger Xebec and WB were biggest powerhouse of old gen

[urban lodge]

Sommers would have just not let her snap his neck lol

[dense rapids]

“Garling probably kills Xebec on god valley”

[ocean totem]

Garling's strong, and still probably not in his prime at God valley, but he's plenty strong

But strong isn't "can fight Whitebeard" lol

[potent pier]

Never forget, Robin with armament Haki would
be overpowered

[ocean totem]

That whole idea came from Whitebeard talking about a scar of his aching when he saw Shanks

[alpine trench]

I can agree on that, besides Imu

[ocean totem]

People linked that immediately to Garling when he was introduced

And hoped that Garling was the one who did it

[dull berry]

Do you guys think having the regen makes you accept more attacks, so in some way it starts decreasing your evasion. More vulnerable to the attacks that can cause dmg

[ocean totem]

Even though Whitebeard had no scars when we saw him at Wano

[alpine trench]

Whitebeard agenda

[steel stirrup]

And do they not know Observation haki?

I have never seen a group of top tiers get snuck up on so much

[alpine trench]

I’m here for it

[glass plume]

i still wonder what the reason is

[woven heron]

Casual swing btw

[pine scaffold]

Those scars are from Roger right

[urban lodge]

It's an established thing that they don't dodge because they don't have to

[pine scaffold]

like thinking of Shanks reminds WB of Roger

[ocean totem]

I assume so yeh

[steel stirrup]

He knows how to sneak at the right time

[ocean totem]

see that's how everyone took it at first

[warm falcon]

Garling could leave a scar in Whitebeard, but now i know its more a cat scratching a man

[urban lodge]

But it's not like they're incapable of dodging

[frigid gulch]

Yea generally though Nusjuro does block

[steel stirrup]

Might as well be

[ocean totem]

But then Garling debuted and it got spun into this dude must've scarred Whitebeard and Whitebeard knows that's Shanks's dad

[glass plume]

i mean it made a lot of sense

[vale heath]

Including you

[ocean totem]

It looks like he's using Ace lol

[steel stirrup]

Haven't had to dodge an attack in decades

Some centuries

Once the regen gets bypassed im not worried

[pine scaffold]

8 months ago LOL

who cares man

[ocean totem]

No, it didn't, that's why it probably wasn't going to pan out

[woven heron]

Yeah lol i guess Oda drawn every sabre to look like Ace

[fading dove]

Just got told zoro can 1 v 2 kid and law

[frigid gulch]

They probably think that the chances someone can counter it are slim which is true

[fading dove]

Do you guys agree?

[icy wolf]

this is very understandable lol

[frigid gulch]

So they might soften up cause of that

[ocean totem]

It takes the literal strongest ability in the series to bypass the regeneration

[proud pivot]

No

[fading dove]

And zoro beats big mom

[urban lodge]

Sommers gave Gaban a decent clash even after getting sneaked on, and Gaban was in a hurry

[icy wolf]

zoro cant beat kidd or law

[proud pivot]

No

[steel stirrup]

They are Grand Fleet level villains atp Bean

[urban lodge]

He blocked some acoc attacks

[ocean totem]

Imagine the big twist ends up being Xebec entrusts Roger with his will and gives him Ace to carry it out

[fading dove]

I’ve been arguing for 30 mins straight

Saying durability means nothing none

[warm falcon]

a scratch by cat, its painful, but you know you are stronger

[fading dove]

Now

[glass plume]

i mean Whitebeard saying that the scar aches when seeing Shanks face specifically made it make sense, considering that Shanks face would probably be relatively similair to his fathers, so I don't think it's unfair for people to make that assumption that it would've been Garling who scarred Whitebeard

[ocean totem]

Name one person in the grand fleet who can use applied conqueror's and we'll talk lol

[woven heron]

Yooo this is cooking ngl

[kind nacelle]

Who's the strongest character in OP rn ?

[steel stirrup]

Don Chinjao come out of retirement

[fading dove]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNH79Kh38WFuH-fKhHQ/

[steel stirrup]

Its over with

[vale heath]

Oda is the strongest

[proud pivot]

Imu

[ocean totem]

It's unfair when we see Whitebeard unmarked at Wano and only bandaged up where he's scarred after his last fight with Roger

[frigid gulch]

Roger already has Ace by this point

[icy wolf]

the holy knights are yc3-yc1 level characters

[frigid gulch]

Pretty sure

[kind nacelle]

Hb Xebec ?

[ocean totem]

It's also unfair when most of Shanks's encounters with Whitebeard were with Roger

[stone terrace]

If you take away akainus devil fruit i think zoro can beat him

Thats how you guys sound

😭

[proud pivot]

Xebec is dead

[ocean totem]

Dead or alive?

[steel stirrup]

Even with the DF
/j

[glass plume]

Imu, guaranteed

[dense rapids]

Shamrock is the definition of fodder

Fights someone who’s literally chained then go kidnap children because he isn’t strong enough to face the giants

[urban lodge]

Take away Sanji's legs and I can beat him

[woven heron]

Bro i love their dialogue WB what a homie

[kind nacelle]

I meant like up till now we've seen in the series doa

[proud pivot]

You can't

[steel stirrup]

Alive rn?

Imu

All time?

Joyboy or Imu

[vale heath]

Sanji no legs vs Zoro no swords

[ocean totem]

Joyboy

[frigid gulch]

Mm not quite cause Akainu’s df gives him his entire moveset

[stone terrace]

Its his power

[kind nacelle]

We've not seen any feat

[steel stirrup]

Joyboy

[glass plume]

i mean sure, but there's been other occasions where Oda has forgotten to draw a scar
and there's always possible of a small retcon like him saying that he didn't know of Garling at the time but later on introduced the idea that it could've been Garling etc.

[stone terrace]

Regen is the wg power

[steel stirrup]

Rope haki

[ocean totem]

The one feat Joyboy has is blasting away Imu's powers

[steel stirrup]

The knot

[ocean totem]

He's definitely stronger than Imu

[solid mantle]

the knot on emeth

[wet condor]

Ruh-roh

[steel stirrup]

That knot was showed the best haki feat til this day

[kind nacelle]

But is that stronger than Xebec ?

[stone terrace]

Lets take rogers conquerors haki away too

[fading dove]

Zoro blitz law apparently now

[frigid gulch]

Ye but even if he faces someone who can return him to his normal hed be fine

[steel stirrup]

Yep

As a Xebec fan

Yes

[wet condor]

That's a very... spicy take there Bean

[frigid gulch]

The knights are..

[ocean totem]

Forgotten to ever draw a scar is way different, especially after that line, and he typically always goes back to correct it if he did forget

[frigid gulch]

Questionable

[vale heath]

I guess we’ll find out next chapter, given Rocks is fighting xebec right now

With backup

[kind nacelle]

Imu face reveal next chap ?

[glass plume]

keep in mind that haki blast from Joyboy was some of his strongest haki stored up, whatever that means lol

[dense rapids]

Joy Boy is God level

Xebec is pirate king level

[leaden rivet]

Just making shit up

[dense rapids]

I’m hoping if not now then definitely by the end of Elbaph

[urban lodge]

We're not getting the Imu reveal in a flashback

[glass plume]

i think that Joyboy and Imu were potentially more-so equals if anything

[ocean totem]

I dunno, Joyboy was pretty epic being able to just blast away Imu's ability

[proud pivot]

Why is pirate king a powerscaling tier

I don't get it

[solid mantle]

I'd pay money for Imu to look like charlos

[ocean totem]

Did it so powerfully Imu was terrified

[dense rapids]

This isn’t the regular kind of flashback

[leaden rivet]

I definitely going with Joyboy being stronger

[steel stirrup]

800 year old haki took 5 immortals out of their Yokai forms and then sent 4 out of 5 of those immortals back to spawn point

Joyboy has the best haki so far

[kind nacelle]

Rocks fighting with Xebec ? XD

[ocean totem]

Because people tried to make it a power tier

[kind nacelle]

Hb Buggy ?

[ocean totem]

To be fair to the fandom, it happened in the series too

[steel stirrup]

It really shouldn't be

[proud pivot]

Shouldn't be one anyway

[vale heath]

Yep

[solid mantle]

that'd be cool too

[warm falcon]

Giant Moms lol

[ocean totem]

No it should not

[vale heath]

That’s Imu, and there’s xebec

[ocean totem]

Roger wasn't even the strongest guy around when he became the King

[ocean totem]

Literally shaking

[woven heron]

Facts

[stone terrace]

Also garling scarring whitebeard is legit not crazy

[steel stirrup]

Yes you gotta be physically strong but that isn't all thats to it

PK shouldn't be a powerscaling metric at all yet here we are

[stone terrace]

Like zoro scarred kaido

[frigid gulch]

I don’t have an issue with the regen tbh but the fact that they’re saved by it after getting their ass beat isn’t something to brag about tbh

[stone terrace]

Kaido could face 5 zoros at once and win lol

[glass plume]

i think anyone would be shocked if they sensed a presence they haven't for 800 years

[frigid gulch]

Like with Sommers

[urban lodge]

That's more about the shock of feeling the haki of a guy who's been dead for 800 years

[frigid gulch]

Or Garling

[steel stirrup]

PTSD

[frigid gulch]

Other times it’s fine

[kind nacelle]

You said ROCKS fighting with XEBEC XD

[steel stirrup]

Nah thats fear

[ocean totem]

It's not the idea that's crazy, it's the actual lack of scars until after fighting Roger lol

[solid mantle]

Chat, who's winning, Roger or this guy 👇 ?

[barren token]

yeah this is also how we know Oden was stronger than kaido

[vale heath]

That I did, oops

[ocean totem]

Oden was never stronger than Kaido lol

[solid mantle]

^

[woven heron]

I wonder if Davy Jones was strong as Joyboy since they could be rivals of VC

[barren token]

Kaido was shaking when he felt odens haki?

[ocean totem]

Oden also never had Kaido shook like that

[barren token]

that's how we know

[frigid gulch]

I mean this is WB in chapter 0

[ocean totem]

He was not

[frigid gulch]

And then nothing in the Oden flashback

[steel stirrup]

I believe in my heart of hearts that Oden wouldve won if not for the old hag

[ocean totem]

Kaido was in shock about it 'cause Oden was dead and he's the one who killed him, but then he actually gets excited about it

[frigid gulch]

Seems consistent to me

[kind nacelle]

Mihawk vs Kaido ?

[ocean totem]

Kaido one shots him, I can't see it

[frigid gulch]

Putting aside retcons

[ocean totem]

Kaido beats him without even using his fruit

[proud pivot]

Oden wouldn't have won imo

[woven heron]

Ppl should know diffrence between suprised and litteraly shakeing in fear and huffing

[steel stirrup]

He scarred him while in his fruit form

[ocean totem]

It's not like Oden was on his last legs there either, and if he was that's even worse

[knotty dove]

Yeah even roger and whitebeard low diffed oden

[ocean totem]

Zoro also scarred him, Kaido was still able to one shot the dude

[barren token]

Imu was in shock about it 'cause Joyboy was dead and he's the one who killed him

[ocean totem]

To be fair that's before Oden got stronger, and they were both stronger than Kaido too

[royal orchid]

good afternoon also manga

[frigid gulch]

I think the timing was telling

[ocean totem]

Imu's shock was being put in a cold sweat and shaking about it

[frigid gulch]

Oden would’ve probably defeated him

[ocean totem]

Kaido's shock was "Damn we get to fight again fuck yeah"

[steel stirrup]

We'll never know

I think Oden would've squeezed it out if not for the trickery

[knotty dove]

Yeah but I still think kaido could've mid diff him

[solid mantle]

we were robbed of good content

[warm falcon]

the mothers are the strongest, imagine it being Giant Moms lol

[ocean totem]

Big Mom down there btw

[steel stirrup]

Put them against the HK and watch them frauds get low diffed

Not the monster form mothers

The actual mother's

[woven heron]

I guess this is what Garp remmber was right all along

[knotty dove]

Most giants have fodder mentality

[barren token]

dude is shaking

[steel stirrup]

Sweating even

[barren token]

scar acting up

[frigid gulch]

Blud is shitting his pants

😂

[warm falcon]

Garp is myopic confirmed

[steel stirrup]

I believe Oden would have won

[frigid gulch]

PTSD

[steel stirrup]

But we'll never know

[frigid gulch]

I think so too

[woven heron]

Debatable if kaido goes hybrid form is gg

[frigid gulch]

Oda puts these little moments for a reason

[urban lodge]

Always felt to me like the presentation suggested he would have won

[frigid gulch]

With Gaban, Garp

[knotty dove]

Nahh it's easily a mid diff fight for kaidou

[urban lodge]

I think doubting that is letting your inner power scaler win

[ocean totem]

Immediately casual about it

[grand flower]

@hot cairn @ashen perch @stone tulip I got sumn Yall really gon like

Time travel shenanigans will let Luffy and Loki be simultaneous consumers of the Gum Gum Fruit

[steel stirrup]

Kaido was strong

But Kaido having Oden in his top 5 isn't a joke bruh

[wet condor]

Having 'nam flashbacks

[grand flower]

[ocean totem]

Imu was put in a sweat and shaking just from feeling Joyboy's haki, Kaido was actually getting stabbed lol

[steel stirrup]

I'm gonna regret this

How

[shell scroll]

why he fat here

[grand flower]

Who tf knows

[frigid gulch]

The scabbards knocked Kaido down with the same move and tried to actually kill him right after but he ended up getting up first

[ocean totem]

Kaido being kind enough to give them a lift to their deaths

[ashen perch]

NO

[grand flower]

Ate an entire melon at once

[frigid gulch]

With Oden he was still on the floor as Oden charged at him

[grand flower]

It could happen

[steel stirrup]

Toki fucking up the timeline

[frigid gulch]

Before obviously he got distracted

[warm falcon]

jokes aside, they have paralels thats for sure

[ashen perch]

a lot of things could happen

[steel stirrup]

True

[shell scroll]

eyes look too funny

[steel stirrup]

Not a fan?

[barren token]

he had like half a chapter to mentally recover

sooo

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-glass-leonardo-leonardo-raise-glass-gif-25093377

[ocean totem]

He got up, looked at the people who stabbed him and got excited

[warm falcon]

Saturn was shaking at the very image of Bonney doing a G3

[ocean totem]

Imu had longer than that and got pissed that Joyboy felt back

Kaido got hype, Imu got upset

[barren token]

we see imus for like a page

[frigid gulch]

Imu huffing after the haki

[steel stirrup]

"BTW Oden i forgot to tell you because it was a lot going on but im here on a secret mission to deliver a God fruit to an Ancient Giant"

[shell scroll]

imu is just horny over joyboys haki

[barren token]

and imu gets more leighway because the guy he killed had been dead for like 800 years not 20

[warm falcon]

he's sedentary

[grand flower]

She was looking for Joy Boy….

[ocean totem]

Nah, that makes it worse

[frigid gulch]

The Gorosei were huffing too

[ocean totem]

especially when Joyboy had a whole prophecy about coming back

[frigid gulch]

Pretty interesting

[knotty dove]

So she miscalculated her time jump?

[steel stirrup]

Her son found him

[royal orchid]

first time kinemon didn't lie

"He will one day stand at the pinnacle of this sea!!"

[steel stirrup]

She can rest easy knowing that

[barren token]

Oden had more or less the same prophecy sooo

[ocean totem]

Not at all lol

There was never a second coming of Oden for anyone

[grand flower]

Yeah I think she says so

[ocean totem]

Joyboy coming back was an actual thing

[royal orchid]

if I was toki I would NOT have let myself die in that fire are you kidding me

I can travel through time!!

[ocean totem]

Kaido was actually upset that they weren't pulling Oden here

[knotty dove]

She used her power to save momo and his fodders

[grand flower]

“You cannot do it”

Kaido is written so goddamn well

[shell scroll]

she moved momo and others that could have used her power and she already settled in this timeline with her family

[ocean totem]

He was

People were upset he wasn't some super deep mystery character

[steel stirrup]

Shuron stfu😭

[barren token]

I'm sure imu would be upset if luffy wasn't nearly as strong as his joyboy'

[ocean totem]

But he was the perfect savage warlord

[grand flower]

What?

[proud pivot]

Can someone please eat tokis devil fruit and become plot relevant 🥺 I really like time travel things

[pulsar path]

Ai slop of Kaido and beasts pirates with pokemon lol https://www.instagram.com/reel/DNlnhGRKQ2p/?igsh=MWtwYjBieDZwMmp1

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[steel stirrup]

🤣

[ocean totem]

You're reaching there

[grand flower]

He’s way more interesting to me as someome who weaponizes despair

[woven heron]

Aura farming Waido

[royal orchid]

why's shuron always arguing with someone and being told he lacks some understanding or to shut up

[brittle basin]

Kaido was never this happy again.

[royal orchid]

every time I come here

[ocean totem]

It's like anti-haki

[shell scroll]

is this an emote

[buoyant quartz]

Wano so good man

[steel stirrup]

The end of happiness

[grand flower]

LMFAO

[pulsar path]

Dman let's see who does a better job, kaido, white beard, Xebec vs Saturn/Imu or Luffy, kid and law vs kaido

[ocean totem]

As soon as he tasted that fruit

It was all downhill from here

[steel stirrup]

Kaido acting like it tasted good just to be an asshole is even funnier

[barren token]

It's all a reach

[royal orchid]

you know the fruit tasted like ass but he was still smiling eating it

[brittle basin]

Fuck Shelbyville!

[knotty dove]

Zoro did more damage to kaidou than kid and law

[barren token]

this is all based on one panel where imu reacts poorly to his old arch nemesis' haki

[steel stirrup]

🐌

[stone terrace]

I want to see the reality where kaido ate a shitter fruit

[shell scroll]

katakuri half dragon form got robbed from us wander what frui kaido woulve got

[woven heron]

Check your head son its not good walking around with fracture

[ocean totem]

Yes, someone not in front of him that he just senses distantly

[steel stirrup]

Banana Split

[barren token]

kaido also initially reacts poorly when reminded of Oden

[proud pivot]

Professionally ragebaiting bigmom

[ocean totem]

And you tried to compare it to Kaido being actively stabbed while feeling Oden's haki again

[royal orchid]

my emphasis was on him smiling, your emphasis was on him being an asshole.
we are not the same.

[ocean totem]

These are not the same thing

[steel stirrup]

Yes we are

[ocean totem]

Imu looked broken by it

[barren token]

If kaido was just chilling and felt Odens presense nearby he would be shook

obviously

[woven heron]

True

[ocean totem]

Kaido was in shock and then excited

[storm anvil]

"the taste of victory" headass

[pulsar path]

Speaking to the choir, but it's besides the point Zoro would be Roger,Garp or Shiki

[ocean totem]

Why?

[pulsar path]

Shiki is definitely holding back here

[olive sigil]

That’s nothing. Back in my day, you’d put some water and go back to the factory

[barren token]

Because Oden left him traumitised man

[steel stirrup]

Kaido missed Oden

Imu feared Joyboy

[ocean totem]

Oden left him upset, there was no trauma there

[woven heron]

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-meme-tom-and-jerry-meme-jerry-points-get-a-load-of-this-guy-this-guy-gif-11384860625931393733

[ocean totem]

Dude wanted another Oden around

[barren token]

Sure

[ocean totem]

Kaido was pissed that he couldn't finish his fight with Oden

[steel stirrup]

But trauma is Kaido's love language

[barren token]

But there would be an inital reaction where he is shaking

[woven heron]

Kaido was so bored nobody didnt give him real challange after Oden

Thats why dude jumped from sky

[steel stirrup]

You right

You too weak

[ocean totem]

He wasn't shaking even as they stabbed him

Can't imagine it would happen if he just felt it from a distance

[barren token]

Because it's not literally Oden, also he was shaken

[wet condor]

Kaido talking about Oden like this and people are trying to tell me he wouldn't be up there with the all-timers

[proud pivot]

Should've gone to imu

[ocean totem]

He was shocked, he wasn't literally shaking. Imu was literally shaking

Kaido was shook, Imu was actually quaking in their boots

[steel stirrup]

The Scabbards falling for that Kanjuro's Oden trick was pmo

[barren token]

Yeah because what he felt was the actual haki of the guy

[pulsar path]

Imu could have been shaking in anger thon

[ocean totem]

And what Kaido felt was also the actual haki as far as he could tell

That's why he calls it Oden's ryuo

[barren token]

No

[ocean totem]

That's why he gets disappointed when it turns out not to be

[brittle basin]

Imu might be shaking due to emotions, as well.

[ocean totem]

Yes

[steel stirrup]

Kaido made it seem like he felt Oden himself

[barren token]

Imu felt the actual literal haki straight from Joyboy

Like it doesn't get more same haki than that

not the same type of haki

[ocean totem]

Yes, and Kaido thought theirs was the same as Oden's

[barren token]

the actual haki straight from the guy

[woven heron]

You think Imu needed to change dress after shiting in pants after Joyboy haki

[ocean totem]

Not the same type, ryuo wasn't uncommon in Wano

[barren token]

yeah he he would have quickly realised it wasn't actually oden

[ocean totem]

And plenty of people he fought outside of Wano had it

[barren token]

because he can see them

[winter oasis]

Oh god bean is back

[barren token]

remember how you said kaido calms down?

[pulsar path]

I mean Imu did kill joy boy so I mean

[steel stirrup]

You think a knot can hold haki for 800 years but Odens swords still holding his haki is a stretch?

Lmao

[alpine trench]

I feel Cunk is joking here

[barren token]

because he sees it's not actually Oden?

[grand flower]

Which is exactly why Luffy Awakening and advancing each form of Haki is so appropriate to defeat Kaido

Luffy overcomes weaponized despair by reaching the pinnacle of DFs - the dreams of humanity - and Haki - the resolve to persevere and overcome

[ocean totem]

JUBA WHY ARE YOU NORMIE NOW

[barren token]

bean won't fuck you

[pulsar path]

Davey D. Joynes creator of God valley

[winter oasis]

I tried to lead a coup to make you server owner but they deposed me

[ocean totem]

He's trying to make a point that saying Imu was weaker than Joyboy because of how hard he was disturbed by Joyboy's haki isn't accurate because Kaido was also disturbed by Oden's when the scabbards stabbed him

[alpine trench]

What makes you say this lol, it seems like a pretty jokey way you’re arguing here, if you’re serious then cool

[ocean totem]

But you'd have to ignore like everything around it and the dramatic difference in their reactions to come to that

[brittle basin]

I can hear fats laughing from his yacht

[alpine trench]

I may have misinterpreted you

[barren token]

You think actually reading the argument and see that we're talking about the scabbards intial attack on Kaido is a strech to expect from the average one peice discord user?

[ocean totem]

This is why you always go for the head first smh

[royal orchid]

Juba has been stripped of his exuberant staff only 8' high heels

[knotty dove]

"Captain of the new gen giant pirates" fucking fodder

[winter oasis]

I don’t think it’s crazy to act like Imu could have just been traumatized by his impact no?

[steel stirrup]

Touched a nerve?

[grand flower]

Kaido was also in the middle of partying while Imu was actively monitoring what he knew was a battle

[wide star]

so is Blackbeard basically part buccaneer as well ? I know all Davy Clan may not be Buccaneer but Rocks pops is built like one and was asked if he was a buccaneer by the CDs

[brittle basin]

Show the panels

[barren token]

"sorry I was wrong" is what you should have said

[ocean totem]

But that's what I'm saying, just the trauma was based on Joyboy being more powerful. Which makes sense to me, since the instance we see of that haki was something that reversed all of Imu's power as it hits

[steel stirrup]

Idk but it would make sense

[pulsar path]

Retcons are a thing

[steel stirrup]

Nope

[ocean totem]

Also true, Kaido's was more of a shock situation all around

[royal orchid]

hey oda can always make hajrudin tank two gear 2 attacks instead of just one

[steel stirrup]

They did just bust in while he was drinking

[barren token]

Well than you're both wrong and lack humility and you won't make it

[steel stirrup]

I wouldve been surprised too

[pulsar path]

It's really unclear it seemed like it was just ignorant CD talking like hey if we hate them are they this too!?!?

[steel stirrup]

Make it where?

Where we going?

[barren token]

you're not ready

[cold steppe]

Kaido mentally nerfed

[grand flower]

Two weeks apart btw

[woven heron]

[steel stirrup]

Something funny Philip?

[ocean totem]

This increase kinda made no sense but I still support it

[woven heron]

Cunk reaction

[steel stirrup]

Cunk? Where?

[grand flower]

It’s cause he was trainin with sea prism

[sour hamlet]

Went extreme diff with machvise

[grand flower]

Like unironically

Luffy says his training will be effective cause of that

[ocean totem]

But even still, the difference going to that much is crazy

[steel stirrup]

Oh shit that is Cunk

When did you become such a cunt?

[ocean totem]

In just two weeks

[woven heron]

His nickname was cunk xD

[grand flower]

Luffy was training with the cuffs of spirit and time, duh

[ocean totem]

Alright ya'll play nice

[steel stirrup]

Damn bro used to be funny now hes all serious what happened

[ocean totem]

Half the training was just punching a giant block of iron too

The biggest question I have is where he got that

[winter oasis]

My thought is that Imu was traumatized because Joyboy’s haki fully stops even Imu’s regeneration immediately, and is therefore the closest thing to death. I don’t think that means Imu has to be absolutely weaker than him as Imu has all sorts of hax

[grand flower]

In G4 but Koby does that bare fisted btw

[royal orchid]

it's still cunkspunk anyway

[grand flower]

Just throwing that out there

[knotty dove]

They used to carry that weight in prison

[pulsar path]

Doesn't rayleigh say something. About having to use haki in battle to understand it or is that another series

[steel stirrup]

I was joking around and he got offended pretty quickly

[ocean totem]

Between that and the memory of the weapons though, I'd say Joyboy should be squarely ahead. Since it stops the regeneration and it apparently cancels out whatever spell Imu was casting at the time, given it sends the Gorosei back home when they were summoned, it seems like it's just a wall Imu can't cross

[steel stirrup]

Yall sure thats him?

[royal orchid]

koby glazing in late 2025?

[grand flower]

Gaban tells Zoro that Haki is only useful when you can intentionally wield it

[grand flower]

Who is your Garling?

[steel stirrup]

Coby glaze is eternal

[ocean totem]

Eh koby was punching thinner iron, Luffy was just pulverizing a block of it lol

[urban lodge]

Daily reminder that Koby will murder Kuzan

[royal orchid]

my useless character?

[grand flower]

Koby was punching ships

Wym thin

[knotty dove]

Yeah they can teach themselves basic haki but needs to fight to take it on another level

[pulsar path]

But didn't Rayleigh say something back before time skip that like you gotta use haki in battle to improve it fully or something idk

[steel stirrup]

Murder?

That don't sound like Coby

[ocean totem]

The ships weren't made of iron, they were metal plated

Luffy was turning a giant block of it into a pillow

[steel stirrup]

Thinner iron huh?

Let's go punch some ships together

[urban lodge]

He's got the losing his mentor (to his knowledge) rage boost

[knotty dove]

Yeah but he was using haki too. So I don't think comparison is fair

[brittle basin]

There's the theory that BB kills Imu and takes the throne. Would you be up for BB having haki that powerful as well if it is what's needed to take down Imu?

[grand flower]

He tells Luffy that training is one thing, but you really get a grasp on how to use Haki and level it up in the heat of actual battle

[royal orchid]

koby and bogard infiltrating hachinosu mini arc

[urban lodge]

But nah he'll just beat him up and convince him to betray BB and then Kuzan dies

[ocean totem]

Not that what Koby was doing was weak or anything like that, it's just the difference between punching through a wooden plank and punching through an oak tree

[alpine trench]

I think Koby’s rate of growth compared to Luffy is still pretty relatively low

[winter oasis]

I don’t want that to happen no, I’d rather Luffy fight Imu and Blackbeard simultaneously

[knotty dove]

Yeah bro bb will defeat imu offscreen

[pulsar path]

Yes this! Which kinda fits perfect with Luffy advancement considering he fought doffy, cracker and katakuri during those two weeks

[barren token]

you came at me with a bad attitude if you're not ready to face the consequences maybe don't step into the ring