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Sommers fruit is mid to me
everyone with cool gimmicks is doomed to lose to unga bunga haki fellows…
The moment he emphasises he’s in a hurry Sommers gets one shot
This is hilarious because the point wasnf even about garps moral position. The circunstances in question is how how him roger and xebec are some of the main characters of this part of the flashback. So it makes sense he's the focus for some people. 
There we go
It's by definition not a one shot
I’m pretty it is
Prolly cuz Gunko and Killingham fruit betta
Sommers has a really good fruit actually
Okay
it’s fun
All their fruits are cool
embrace whimsy
We have very good precedent for commanders holding up people with MF being a good example
what i like is:
Lodestar can be read as LOADstar
LOAD = ROAD
Road poneglyphs
Less about this and more about them getting what they deserve if theyre doing evil heinous shit. Most of the shs have cool gimmicks
BTW all this God Knight slander naturally upscales Fisher Tiger.
Good
only because the other ones are like so good
arrow fruit might be my favorite fruit in one piece
Ghost ping
i’ll be honest i’d root for someone with a fun ability over someone morally better
thats why i’m morally obligated to root against zoro
Fair?
That aint the definition of oneshot and it doesn’t change that Gaban was serious. Gaban used a named attack there
Page zero
He walks into the fight serious realised it’s taking a bit longer locks in and takes one shot to finish the fight
I hope to see him get pieced up some more
CDs are trash bruh lmao
People need to embrace liking evil characters
I like imu
i can’t bring myself to hate sommers
I love plenty of evil characfers
The HK are ass though
he’s just a man that loves his job
Sommers is garbage period
Eh ig, but unless you think Kuzan is putting major effort into Jozu, then it doesn’t necessarily mean much
He's hilarious
I like BB so much I don't even really associate him as evil just reckless
funny scaling
Shamrock is the only strong one, predicting it 
@clever idol what was that in response to 
It just means Gaban used a stronger attack than what he did initially lol
And that overwhelms Sommers
he is a shanks-like after all
Wasnt meant for u
sorry i didnt want to cut your message so i deleted mine

Imu is the only wg antagonist I like if I’m being honest
No worries
Shamrock as well
I hope he dies a horrible death
The HK are pretty bland outside of shamrock and Gunko
She
maybe their eventual flashback will make me more interested
She*
Hypetool for Loki soon
I agree
Good
I loke nusjuro, gunko maybe old garling, killingham, maffey, shamrock, honestly, i damn near like all the WG antagonists
I don’t even think Gunko is all that great
Sommers is anything but bland
“Maffey” 😭
Its the same with the vice admirals, i only care about momonga, the other vice admirals idgaf about them or know their names
Dude oozes with villainous charisma
calling sommers and killingham bland is crazy
Same here with hk i only care about shamrocks/gunko
Gun to the back of you head name 3 maffey lines
they’re a fun group
Yeah him too
None of them are bland really
It all died when i saw how much he enjoyed killing kids tbh. Cant help but root against him. Which makes him an effective villain imo
I want to know how they aren’t bland
Killingham we haven’t seen to much of so I won’t talk about him
I can name three reasons why shes her
I like kirin fruit guy
idk fun personalities, designs and powers
Also, Yeti HK has my stocks too
what more do you want
Sommers is hilarious and pathetic
That’s what I mean by villainous charisma. Sommers is a great example of “love to hate.” He’s a greet heel
Their character design + dg fruits + plus being unique with their lineage and rolenand position within the cd
Just declare for bankruptcy bru ✌️
you’re not ready for what the shoujo prince knight can do
Idk if i love to hate its more of a general disgust but sure. I just want him dead and gone asap 
Just dont let them fight top tiers
Its all good
surely oda won’t forget him
Shoujo Prince will no diff Kaido next chapter
I think he’s a compelling force to root against, I’d say it like that
Sommers is just a CD with more power his design is above average and his powers are decent ig ?
He’s a very effective villain
For sure
Sommers is fun
Not quite apoo though
What counts as weak bro
Not Rocks = weak
They rely on their regeneration which is how it should be
Mhm
They’re weak compared to all strong people

losing to rocks makes you weak? what does that make rocks, slightly less weak?
And who are strong people
replied to u by accident. U were in my way!
He was expected to be top 3 on the island, he’s way weaker than people expected
Im glad oda makes him weak like that
Is 3v1ing Nami, Usopp, Brook and Jinbei not weak?
What ppl mean to say is garling is much weaker than they thought 
Precisely
No but uh once they figured her out shes done for. Fuck her too
There would’ve been no issue if he wasn’t reknowned for his achievements at GV
He could still do something at GV but it’s looking like if he does it’ll be either kidnapping eris or sneaking rocks
Which isn’t exactly impressive
ehh he's still young

We don’t actually know his age correct me if I’m wrong
Garling will probably have a comeback. I gotta relish this period where he's more pathetic than Kid and Big Mom as long as I can
He probably always will be
But just in case
I hope so
Then yeah, that wording is pretty wild. “These characters aren’t as strong as the fans hyped them to be” is the way to say it.
Top 3????
Story hyped him to be *
Lil bit of both but mostly on the fans
The story hyped young garling to be able to compete with Rocks?
Champion of god valley , future commander of HK , future gorosei member , father of shanks
we dont but we know he aged normally until egghead probably
future everything
Garling's introduction says that he distinguished himself at Me Valley
We're just now learning that it meant distinguished himself as the ultimate fraud
i don't think anybody thought garlic was on the level of rocks but i also don't think anyone thought he'd get low diffed off screen
Champion of GV was never something that should have been automatically assumed to be powerscaling related
Not just that. Reverse jumped
Presuming he’s whitebeard and Roger’s age their achievements were also all in the future
I never would have predicted he gets reverse jumped
Not offscreened
Garling tried psychological and physical warfare AND cheated and still got faded
Him having those achievements in the future hyped him to be at least like Rayleigh level in my eyes
This is generational ass
The wording isnt that wild?
nothing about what i said implied it wasnt the fault of fan expectations or even blames the story
This dude lost 2 rounds ina row bro 
I was wrong and I got to accept that
Its what he deserves man
Bro was pulling up on Rocks like "So you can hurt me...but I've got you all figured out"
Garling is no doflamingo
And worse
Thats for sure
Maybe Im just a Rocks glazer 😭 but I didn’t have many people on that island being able to press him by much
This is what Garling gets for beating on a helpless woman
Garling is probably strong as hell, rocks is just rocks lol
also true. and if we look at east blue shanks, he was way weaker then now
In the name of Kid and Big Mom, fuck that nigga
He ass now
That's how it works
Strongest person on that island was definitely Rocks
Whitebeard and Roger were 36 and 40 basicallly current shanks age
I’l almost positive that “distinguished himself” is Viz’s roundabout way of saying he’s the champion
Except Imu IG
I pray garling gets coc from imu
Sometimes they do that shit
Kid? You mean shanks doormat?
I believe that was a correction
Apart from the first one, these are just things that come later. Its not reflective of young garling’s strength
He is the champion cause he killed the most slaves
Same with Mother Frame
Exactly hes no real one
Viz initially had it as ruler/king and then changed it to that
It all gets fixed in the volume anyways so it don’t matter
Better than Garling at least
Like I said a lot of this applies for other characters at GV but their future achievements hyped them up to be something at the time for me
Honestly I doubt it
Being a future of the HK or a future Gorosei member doesn’t tell ya “He was top 3 and could hang with Rocks”
But the word can simply mean champion and contextually it seems appropriate
Garling when he cannot murder children and slaves and actually has to fight someone strong
Ah ok
it doesn't really make sense for him to be the champion because of slave killing as the game got cancelled
wym you doubt it? Garling has no successful acts of violence against combatants. It's exclusively chained up slaves, a prisoner, and a helpless woman
Garling is the most pathetic character by far rn
But the narrator said he is
If he didn't do what he did to mama redhair, it wouldn't be so bad
Didn’t say it tells me that inferred that the guy would be able to at least hold rocks up temporarily like how wb spoke about garp even though they’re relative
Garlic would probably be a menace a few arcs ago lol
I can come to this channel at any time and still be able to post the give me haki garling image
Garling is the WSS: World's Strongest Slaver
But now I kind of get the score yeah
jack was a menace a few arcs ago
Supreme Fraud of the Holy Knights
Having a demon army + another HK should’ve been enough for people like Rayleigh to hold xebec up for a bit and that’s where I had garling at
if you consider pre ts bb. he was in the same range and he was way weaker than now as well
Shamrock is next
shamrock has been a fraud
That meme of Saturn passing the mantle of weakest Elder to Garling is funny af
Streets saying Garling the only HK to get Haki from the Abyss mark too
Reason for his strength? Regen bailouts
u get it
Shamrock's only display is attacking a chained up man
Just like his bum ass daddy
He tried to replicate the hunting games
Hes garbage
Reason for his strength? Demon magic merchant
Im just happy to see garp reacting to what's going on
the fact that garling has objectively been carried by his regen
Garling needs a demon form from Imu to be able to push Queen to mid diff
at least he gets 1 (one) point for not knowing the CDs did slave hunts
Not too much queen is ass too
bb is a completely different case considering he was hiding his strength as inferred by his scarring shanks , his whole strength being a mystery with there being theories of rocks being in him and him also gaining the strongest paramecia after the ts
Shamrock kinda seems to have Imu stuff tho
That fight gonna be another parallel to add to the list
For his sword at least
Yeah, so I figured this is just the fans having higher standards for Young Garling, which is fine. I still think people having him as top 3 is crazy
be honest guys
would you laugh if garling's yokai form was a mystical rat
yeah but it just shows that these guys can get much stronger very quickly even after reaching adulthood
I didn’t have him that high I thought he was like Rayleigh level which was reasonable
Yes
Yea
It’d be pretty funny
Uh yea??
Rat King Garling
@clever idol Shanks' fuck nigga genes made him stop Kaido from going to help Whitebeard
Talk
He was tryna help his old buddy
His big bro
Facts
Might be shamrock and Kaido got confused
kaido at marineford would have been beautiful
wdym?
Saw a tweet that said shanks stopped kaido from going to whitebeard and showed up to mf after wb was dead 
Whole family ain't shit on the low
WB (big bro) disciplines Kaido (lil bro) for killing Oden (also lil bro)
wow like big mom kind of
Kid was justified

BB is basically the only exception that being because he gained the strongest paramecia , presumably finally utilising haki , fighting in the payback war , rocky port , MF and just in general him possibly hiding his strength being the offscreen guy
TRUST
Shanks sees Buggy after 20 years and what does he do? Emotionally manipulate him with something he KNOWS Buggy cares deeply about
does anyone have the edit of garling joining the gorosei but they're clowning on him
thank you. nevermind, i guess someone edited, its not in the original
happy to help!
ig we'll see
found it
generational agenda
at least he has drip
This is when the Elders realized Blackbeard is the final villain
Tbh it looks like there’s no way the marines defect from the wg at this rate
What makes you say that
the next two chapters will probably seal the fate of the final villain
The 1162 before them already did
(no)
I don’t think I’m ready for Akainu yet
“Know your place”- marcus the goat
I just know he’s bouta do sum
"akainu" in any year after 1994...
That’s my fleet admiral
I kinda overhyped the HK but with the entire SH RA Loki Yamato and wayy more factions fighting there’s no way the FK gorosei and imu and enough
Holy Knights are there to give other straw hats something to do
Blackbeard becoming a Haki god might unironically happen
It won't
Blackbeard doesn’t even have CoC imo
Idk about allat
Let’s not go that far
blackbeard is gonna have generational haki he's fighting luffy
The guys ambition is “the world”
No let's go that far
I do think he might take Imu’s power though
He doesn't have it
If he has CoC, hes 100% being a haki god lol
Imu could prolly wipe out 98% of their forces
Idk how much more conq ambition you get
I would argue he has a lot of kingly ambition
Yeah but his ambition also belongs to his father
Blackbeard not having CoC makes sense from a narrative standpoint tbh
The thing that stops BB from not being a haki god is IF he doesn’t have CoC
I think that takes something away
And it’s also his ?
i guess this is old but i think its worth remembering
these words on the wall in Impel Down 
It’s gonna be Luffy awakening as joy boy to beat Imu fs
I wonder if imu will actually be strong or more immortal bs
if blackbeard doesn't have coc but zoro does the story's cooked
A lot of people want to be pirate king but not everyone has CoC
Same for ruling the world
Stelly had ambition
Luffys true dream belongs to Roger
I think there’s a gimmick to their power and they aren’t physically strong
I think Teach is meant to be kind of a pathetic loser in the end
Luffy’s dream is his own
wise words
It's not the same
Like how Imu destroyed an island
What an interesting interpretation
From You, 20 Years Ago 
Because Luffy and Roger said it completely independently
I would prefer if Blackbeard just mains the DF’s while his father mains Haki
Ever since we met Xebec I’ve been feeling it
might be a mostly indirect fight if imu starts abusing domi reversi and other black magic
Teach isn’t him and he never will be
Blackbeard is aware of what Rocks' goal was and is following in his footsteps
Teach is a pretender
at this point it seems pretty clear blackbeard just wants to continue his father’s legacy
that's exactly what oda wants you to think
Following in someone’s footsteps doesn’t take away the ambition behind it lmao
question is how much was his own idea
He wouldn’t have even went out to become king of the world if the stars didn’t align for him
It's still not the same as Luffy and Roger
but it'll soon be revealed that blackbeard is actually rocks' father
I still think than Teach will make it pretty far and succeed though
But the fundamental difference between him and Luffy will be that
Teach is a huge fucking loser lol
Even if its different circumstances luffys main influence and albeit not exactly following him Luffy wants to be a great pirate like shanks
Thats a bit of an oversimplification of his entire character
It’s still a great ambition
Yeah of course it is
Well what made me view them differently is BB would have quit his dream if he didn’t get the exact DF he wanted
But it’s also true
Which is…
A more apt comparison is any other bozo out there who is after the one piece because of Roger
I like Teach too but there’s definitely reason Xebec is so different from his son
What does akoji see in him? What do all the bb pirates?
And teach isn’t exactly like rocks he’s clearly more malicious so I would guess his plans diverge at some point
While Luffy is basically Roger
…
yeah for one teach is fat
so that already changes things
Ok this I can agree on now
Wonder if it'll become relevant that War-Land is just one place in Elbaph
Teach is lowkey a waste of genes
why this 🚬 sleeping like that 😭
I vaguely remember Artur being super certain Warland was the island and Elbaph was the kingdom lol
Like right before the arc
what? are you trying to call sanji the f-slur lmao
WHAT
cigs are called that in britian
Britain*
So idk if that's what you meant
Lmao that’s what I thought too
I was referencing this lmaoo
yo this is crazy the cigar has sanji's eyebrow

luffy vs bb will end like this
"I just wanted to make my fathers dream come true"
"but teach, dont you know that your father's dream was for you to be able to chase your own dream"
Oda is back
Luffy will beat Blackbeard and Imu with the power of friendship
I actually think he will. or at least bb
Luffy doesn’t do stuff like that
i don’t see power of friendship ever working with blackbeard lol
the same man who killed the man he called his pops for decades lol
and his brother
Blackbeard wants everything
That is my pindo, my pirate way
I love this image so much it's so funny
shanks shot this down by saying he’s always been the type of person who will want more and more power and never stop so even long before he left WB he had this mindset when he fought Shanks
"I've already planned every single thing."
Blackbeard would probably be a decent guy as long as you don’t dangle any carrots in front of him
manga chat died so time to go to also-manga chat, hey guys
Bro thinks he's (other series)
I think he genuinely liked his comrades on Whitebeard’s ship
Rocks had a similar plan and didnt seem too bad
Though not enough to spare Thatch and Ace lol
Lucks into:
shiryu
aokiji
caribou (2 ancient weapons)
Garp
WWF reference
I need to plan better
yeah he said he respected WB & looked up to him the most and told ace that he didn’t wanna have to kill his friend that but he had to lol
Caribou ain’t telling him a thing
Blackbeard just a true pirate in the end
His planning is a big part of things though
It is mostly that Teach is straight up blessed by fate
He was looking for a fruit for 30 years
He has Luffy levels of things working out
Nowhere near
Blackbeard has very loose, simple plans
Teach’s plans tend to just be reaching toward an objective
ok for one he directly went to go get shiryu and crew + garp mightve been part of his plan, but koby was luck
yeah I think if Rocks had ever found that other DF he needed , he would’ve slimed out someone on his crew for it if he had to
I would imagine his plan was the whole summit war saga + eventually taking over wb's territory to become an emperor and that's it
he was willing to kill his apprentice just for asking a question about harald lol
Shiryu the actual person idrc about but him getting saved in impel down was a miracle
His plans are fucking stupid and he always lucks out
he was that bummed out 
Did he really go there for Shiryu? I think it was just an opportunity that presented itself after Magellan let Shiryu out and then Shiryu happened to give BB the antidote
Wrong
after Magellan whooped his ass without blinking
doesn’t every plan need a little bit of luck to work .. we see it with the straw hats every single arc lol
ohh you mean BB getting saved from the poison
I dont think the strawhats really plan
yeah that was a nat 20
But yes luffy is super lucky
we saw law making plans with the straw hats multiple times and it never works out
It’s basically impossible to have a successful plan in one piece lmao
Do you guys think Blackbeard loved his mother
I mean large scale plans btw
yeah
probably
There’s so many different factions and external factors to take into account when planning
yeah don krieg had a good plan but then he accidentally woke up mihawk from his nap
even Luffy & Law multiple arc plan to take down Kaido needed a lot of luck for it to work cause they didn’t expect big mom to get involved as well lol
That it’s lowkey better to just leave things to luck
Not completely
But partly
Kaido honestly could’ve won on his own if he was less Kaido
Yeah no plan ever works out but his plans are genuinely dumb, he wanted to become a warlord to be allowed into impel down when warlords aren't even allowed into impel down
They made an exception for Hancock
but kaido wouldn't be kaido if it wasn't kaido
He was aware of the commotion of the MF war and figured he’d be able to slip through ig
they clearly have some type of clearance though or else sengoku wouldn’t have said “ so that’s why you became a warlord “
that plus the knowledge of MF chaos
His plan for marineford and impel down was literally just “show up”
Lmao
execute pirate plan
plan going well
smoker gets you lmao
back to plan
warlord
back to plan
yonko territory
yonko slimes you
back to plan
marine ship
arrested lmao
the Winners Island plan was also smart and worked perfectly cause he also tricked Shanks with it
I think Blackbeard has some form of contingency power wise
Yami yami and inshallah
BB's contingency plan is to spam his powers and hope you're voided/drowning
He can take risks that he shouldn’t be able to at his current strength because of his “offscreen strength”
the contingency is offscreen ..
also Van Augur
he knows what offscreen means in his fights and he takes advantage of it lol
Van Augur is a very good plan B
Because of fate
I genuinely think he’s been hiding some crazy strength back
probably
BB's contingency plan is plot armour
He’s going to fight shanks soon enough
Plot armour
Might be the dumbest argument
well obviously lol he dropped Luffy 3 times before the fourth one turned him into Nika
there's no other logias on BB's crew apart from his right?
Magellan would’ve killed his ass without fate
oh yeah I forget he's a member
He was going to but shiryu saved him
I'm a bit late to the new manga drop but that final panel made me think we had some Dio/Rocks/Imu memes on release, is that accurate?
Luffy was dead 40 times over in mf
Remember BB's plan to sail directly into the knockup stream when he was chasing Luffy after Jaya
BBrain move
remember when he dropped in front of the 3 admirals
his ass didn't even have haki
kuzan is fast and can freeze his opponents
kizaru is slow and can light his opponents
akainu is
Finish it
akainu is a fascist and can melt his allies
wasn't akainu the one that ordered to bomb that ship leaving ohara
Yes
I wonder if Akainu knows about the slave hunts
you have horrible knees
crazy autocorrect
For sure
Hes fleet admiral
If you don't get this TRASH out of this gif of those holy knights
gonna assume kong knew since he didnt give garp that much info
so by default akainu should knew too
the garlic downfall animated by toei
Yeah it's strongly implied Kong knew
Does the Manmeyer girl have that massive neck in the manga too or is that a Toei moment?
when you realize this is why toei animated him with those awful colors and made his metal boots look like latex
We should use Garling as a verb
"Why did Joe get fired?"
"Got caught fumbling work tasks"
"Ohhh he really Garled it up huh"
"Yup. Garling at work is a dangerous thing"
Shaq was straight garling at free throws
Oda to garling 🙏
Luffy is a lot like Kendrick Lamar in that they're both cutie patooties who will absolutely dismantle everything you've built for in ruthless fashion
Mustard
Bro what
nah
me and merry's mom did that years ago
what's up gang
what ails you
let uncle shuron clear your mind
you were never funny but this is a new low
that's a lie
On both ends
Just randomly remembered when someone said Killingham wasn't really physically impressive yet
That was right after the chapter where he suplexes a giant with one arm lmao
Oh Ripley the woman that you are
Chill bruh lmfao
shuron you know what I need
To shut the hell up
nah what I need is a good tattoo
Oh well why ain’t you say so bitchalicious
I did one earlier today
Started a second one but had to go to work lulz WHOOPSIE
anyway I'm considering my options
How rude I hope they all get fucked up
what tattoo would you get if you had the aura of goat island koby
I guess the if is not really necessary
Goat island Koby? What the fuck are you talking about
goat island
id tattoo a dick on my face before letting anything from Steven universe touch my body
It can also symbolize me cause I’m a Leo :3
Fun fact
I once tried making a stencil out of
Actually nvm
Even this drawing I did?
I fucked up and accidentally colored his face the wrong shade ):
no clue what that is
That’s Lion you idjit
Would you let Steven universe draw a dick on your face?
Steven Universe is a good boy whom would never do that
That’s his nickname
I went to the beach yesterday and didn't put on enough sunscreen and the result is I now look like post time skip kuzan
steven universe is alright. pretty good even. If they cut it down to only the main story it might be great. I dont like theres so much random slice of life fluff
Fair
Homeless?
yes but that's unrelated
yeah it would be hard to separate maybe. I just think the ratio is off
Wooooooow
especially in the beginning you only get tiny drips of main story
I can see your perspective. The overarching plot is way more interesting
My opinion has dropped even more
I think I’m good
The overarching plot is better than the conflict of the weeks most of the time
not really a banana kinda guy yknow
The slice of life stuff is what makes the main story better. One Piece in comparison suffers from having so many characters that we don’t get slice of life anymore
dr who is the only one i can think of thats the reverse. Where the overarching story is kinda dumb but i just like the conflict of the week
where the fuck is this information coming from
Hes probably at least 300
fair but that also speaks to just how much we enjoy the characters that we would even take them just hanging out
The best part of any one piece movie is the crew chilling before the plot starts
Dear mom and dad I’m doin fine
You guys are on my mind
You asked me what I wanted to be
Now I think the answer is plain to see
I wanna beeeee
A fuckin bum
@hazy turret 1162>>>>1079
Every chapter is better than 1079
Garp haters FOUND UNCONSCIOUS (but still alive) IN A DITCH after reading latest chapter
i feel like we already had this conversation so no need to reshash it but youre being an underpants gnome
They’re bad at driving and hydroplaned while driving during a storm
whats an underpants gnome
Most conversations in the server are repeated
That’s true as fuck
Hey actually lost traction while driving the other day
Opposite of a mind goblin
I’m glad you’re still with usb
Idk how to drive so this means nothing to me
It’s pretty easy
ok buddy i aint falling for this twice
I can teach you
snod already got me with it
Piss OFF
leaving the marines is stage 1, then theres many other stages... then i guess the profit stage 3 is a beatiful utopian just world
is this rizz
Garp should leave the Marines because all the people he saved would have preferred for them all to die together in a symbolic but fruitless gesture
What I think garp should do doesn’t really change the fact that he has to bear the burden of continuing to work for a maniacal government
Thinking of a funny joke
the path from leaving the marines to the beatiful utopia is not at all clear. But the path from staying with the marines to continuing to help the innocent, on balance, is very clear
How long will the God Valley flashback last now that Imu is here
The path to the Utopia is Garp inspiring the Marines, Dragon inspiring the people, and Luffy leading the charge as Joy Boy
3 more chapters
2 or 3 chapters left
bearing that burden and moral stain towards the pratical end of enhancing his ability to help innocents is noble imo
3 chaps
3 chapter 💔
Seeing them commit a genocide in front of your eyes and go “…yeah I’m still gonna work for them to fulfill my own agenda”
it would be selfish to put his own moral purity over his ability to help innocents on balance
And no one is supposed to question that?
yo its LION!!!
dragon did it
I wonder what garp does if he sees marines killing unaffiliated citizens
It is questionable, but also understandable
Spicy
Dragon hasn't done it. Dragon has staged an organized rebellion, and it's still struggling after almost 30 years
dragon been doing it for 40 years and still has not succeeded and probably wouldnt succeed in the end without luffy
We’re seeing it rn
Are we not?
i feel like oda needs to stop being subtextual and just state the obvious
Yeah Garp says it's madness
Or Garp tbf
Que jugador
It feels like a band aid fix for oda to go "oh well, he didnt know what they were doing!" But then he continues to work for them for a long time, and then he even stayed after he was forced to stand by as hundreds of innocent pregnant women were killed simply to find the son of roger
the alternative youre proposing is a pointless moral gesture that would help no one
brother wtf
He’s supposed to be morally gray, but we’re not supposed to shame him for said questionable morals
i feel like you dont give any credit to the other side of the scales
Let’s see how it plays out before casting judgement
Garp haters FOUND IN POOL OF BLOOD after reading latest chapter
youre not treating him as morally grey you treat him as moraly evil
Id argue its the opposite
Found in a pool of…?
they giving him the rocks treatment smh
Liquid gold and diamonds
Whos not rich
So that can’t be right
i guess i just never heard a convincing argument as to how leaving the marines in a symbolic gesture narcisstically obsessed with ones own moral purity that does nothing to make anyone's life better is a good thing
Is the God Valley island actually ending up wiped out or is it still around? Sengoku only said its not in the maps anymore
Exactly. From the knowledge Garp has available to him, there is only three options because the WG is by all appearance insurmountable:
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Leave the Navy and become a vigilante, saving far less people than as a Marine unless he started acting like a pirate and started stealing resources which defeats the purpose
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Become a Revolutionary and save less people on a failing cause, sacrificing lives for a moral gesture
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Remain a Marine and try to use his influence as a beloved icon and instructor to strengthen the moral fiber of the organization against the WG's corruption, and continue to save people day in and day out
I have slandered Garp along with the worst of them, but lately I’m seeing it as similar to people who bash the Roger pirates for doing nothing. There’s a time for action, and it’s not now.
We can only truly slander Garp if he stays a lapdog to the end
idk what garp not knowing about the hunting games until now even changes
We can understand Garp's decisions are flawed, you can argue they were the wrong decision
POOL OF BLOOD.
3 is also so important to the downfall of the cd one day.
But people not being able to parse that alongside the fact that Garp is ultimately a good person trying to make what he thinks is the best decision in a situation with no ideal solution
It's just a disservice to how well written the dilemma is involving the Navy and the WG are altogether
yeah the blood of innocent civilians and slaves being slaughtered
if all the good marines just leave, there will be no coup, itll be a complete bloodbath, the instition of the marines may fail and plunge the world into an anarchic chaos where they get preyed upon by people like bb
Magellan would’ve killed his ass without fate
There’s not much to be said about the “good”. His heart is in the right place and I’m sure has struggled internally to make a choice
Uh oh what r garp haters getting up to!
I finally got the chance to fully read 1162. It's sooooo good
It sucks seeing people hold Garp to a standard that only exists because we're readers of a story that know it's gonna end happy
i think there being good people in the marines is key to the revos actualy being able to succeed one day in a way that doesnt ruin the world
We can say "Garp should have become a Revolutionary!" because, from a narrative standpoint, we know they will win against the impossible odds at the end of it all
Garp literally cannot think that way
Exactly
Garp is saving thousands of people as a marine
He isn’t just licking his toe nails
he goes out of his way to avoid directly supporting cds
I am so excited to see Garp, Roger, Rocks, Kaido, WB all face off against Imuturn and eventually see how Harald slots into all of this. Only gonna ramp up in excitement
Kinda hoped for BM/Shiki to have a bigger role but it's whatever lol I think they did enough
Lastly, Dragon and Eris are so cool bruh
and Garling is a bum
It's not like Me Valley is over lol
No he’s being held to a standard as someone who wants to do good while being in a position of power
The only thing I will criticize Garp for is not doing more internally to facilitate change, but it seems like he’s starting that way with Koby
and i think its a form of narcissiism to put that kind of moral gesture to ensure your own personal moral purity over the practical impacts on people's lives
Even that trash ass wack ass buns ass lame ass pathetic ass reverse-jumped-getting-ass garling will get a second chance
eris will get recaptured by garling
i am still all in on the idea that eris will die and rocks will go berserk
Delete that
I feel like fujitora is doing more of what you guys are saying garp does
You’re one of the people just immune to the rules huh

Bruh what the
it takes a critical mass. One person cannot do this
Btw, something I was curious about is what is Ganzui doing here?
Meek is a celestial dragon
I was so blinded by garp slander that the politics flew over my head
The rules don’t apply to him
MEEK
He’s a god since he does translations
its gonna take fujitora and garp and koby and helmpoo and clay net guy whos name i dont remember
big salute brother
And I don't see why you insist on viewing Garp as someone who isn't doing this. You can acknowledge that Garp's decision to stay with the Navy is flawed.
But the facts remain, Garp using his position of power to save people is doing good. Garp using his position of influence to strengthen the moral fiber of the Navy is doing good.
Don't forget that Road saw the strawhats booty naked
I know you support me, we would be friends IRL.
Tcb slander gets you shot in the back
I SUPPORT MEEK
You just can't admit it here
What is on his arm again?
Am I the garp…
idk
also I saw people saying they think this is marco's dad or whatever
this is clearly a roger pirate
Bro that's Marco
It's just not specified who
wym
ignoring..
wdym ignoring
Ah yes verbal indication that you’re ignoring someone
that aint marco hes 45
So why cant it be a roger pirate thats also marcos dad
marco is 6 during god valley
he was an early bloomer
Sengoku is an American.
Garp has good intentions. I think he's fine. I dont know what else to say about him
also he was 7
We dont claim sengoku
Its marcos father... Polo 
Which one
who am i kidding, he'd fit in well
whats perfumes do you guys wear for work??

Garp is a good man making what he thinks is the best decision in an impossible dilemma
Gatekeeping sorry
I claim Sengoku. The fro and goat do a lot of heavy lifting.
I'm still confused how the Davy clan got Domi Reversi'd here but I have a couple ideas.
If anyone has a really compelling explanation, i'd love to hear it.
😔 i need something bruh
I run on a treadmill, run my hand between my ass, and slathers whatever comes with across the back of my neck
A celestial dragon should shoot sengokus goat and eat it front of him
natural scents are what women prefer
They love a good musk
if garp were self interested he could just be a pirate and use his strength to take what he wants. Hes a marine cause he wants to help people
I wish nothing more than for marines who defend them to get wronged by them personally
I think this made me realize that we'll meet more Davy clan members only as the story progresses. I like the idea that either Moda/Dr. Blackbeard on Lulucia are either a colony of the Davy clan outside of GV or are just friends of the Davy clan
Big dog
i will have big issues if wifi domi reverse is a thing
Katakuri lol
Gotta rock them pheromones
Ok it seems like ganzui just has big arms. I have no idea how he did explosions. Maybe he’s just that strong
Sengoku goes John Wick lol
Does anyone object to this idea
I thought it was a good idea
I like Eris too, I didn't expect for Oda to give her an actual compelling personality
i dont dislike meeting more davy clan members but i really dislike the idea of lulusia being a davy hub
Yeah?
i didn't say hub, i mean just a separate davy colony
it ruins the 'It's close' moment if imu has an ancient grudge to pay off
also, I'm not sure if I'm reading this scene wrong, but why are so many people calling this attack crazy?
it seems hidden to me
that moment worked because he truly chose it a random, thats what made it powerful
yea ig
S-Hawk upscale
At first I thought that move was what split god valley
But then realized that was wrong
unless imu didn't know about it
if u care about size scaling this looks nuts lol
btw I love this panel lol
i guess but why introduce the possibility. it just makes it worse, it doesnt make it any better
Meh numb to it at this point
ohhhh... didnt catch that!
obligatory parallel... the interesting question is if eris and dragon will interact because the face-value parallel is between shanks and teach
Probably not!
BB really been in two islands that got nuked 😭
are these vice admirals people we've seen before? are they with garp's fleet or were they already there?
ngl Roger has aura with this line
he dont care about no demon haki
Neither does Loki 
I heard that Tekking thinks that this could be some living monster under the island or some literal being unleashed. I think the answer is much simpler.
They don't want the "truth" to be unleashed. Not just the truth of the WG, but specifically the truth of the hunting games. If Rocks & co win at GV, then it'll be common knowledge for people that the CDs do these. Thats why Imu had to intervene to keep this on the downlow, which more or less worked in the end.
He’s in his 30s
First one is Hound
Is he?
everything kaido will do feat wise to imu is what i would kinda expect and hope for loki against imugunko tbh
maybe the davy clan are destined to lose. they tried to group up close to mariejois so they could redeem themselves one day by taking over the wg but then their plan backfired as imu wanted to destroy something close to mariejois
pirate king parallel damn bruh
one of my favorite pages in a minute lol
i just dont think coincidences like that are typically good in stories
Hound doesn’t have an official age so he could be 60. Guy looks like he’s had Botox applied
I love how oda split this page into quadrants, with each quadrant being delegated to a major player in GV (minus Garling & Harald, i guess?). Another instant favorite.
Ngl Loki is the only one that responded like the Xebec n Roger did back then to Imu
no linlin 💔
Exactly
He has that pirate king mentality since birth
Kidd gonna comeback
the fact that this is the 2nd time he felt that haki lol
Also you have a Garling pfp 💔 rethink your thoughts twin
maybe even third if we counting the harald death
Gaban must have nightmares about it still
Icon is our Garling champion
I respecdt it though at least he didn't abandon it
In Garling's defense, he looks badass as an elderly man.
and is probably far, far stronger now.
True!
He’s the one who said he wants to be strong enough to protect everyone he cares about
Garling and Harald are not major players in GV
Garling is a bum
Harald isn’t there
im still expecting harald to arrive
cause this fb kinda sucks if harald and loki are no longer involved
"serious" 
Low diff offscreen is wild work
Loki is consistently tethered to rocks no matter what happens
i will assume that reddit name starts with pirate...sum
They share the same dream and loki has been following rocks journey
Rocks downfall is important to loki mind state
Need I say more
Loki was born in the wrong era
If he was there at god valley we might be reading a completely different story
Loki is literally Rock's son from another father can't tell me otherwise
Loki is the Rocks of this generation
Buggy is
atp i am convinced the davy bloodline has shringan or something
You don't even like Rocks 
Beat the dog shit outta that boy
You know Garling is gonna come back and hoe Rocks something foul
Sneaking ass nigga
he gonna capture eris
and use her as leverage before rocks delivers the killing blow to imu
Eris my beloved
Thats what i think is happening
Garling seems to be pretty sharp
He knows he isnt beating rocks straight up
Not as sharp as Rocks sword
we are not about to downplay imu like that lol
At this point who knows
Its established he knows that eris and bb are rocks' wife and son
Nothing would surprise me anymore
this aint even the real imu, this is like imu-lite
And after clashing with rocks once he decided to bring his domi reversid family to use against him
kaido was talking about himself 😭
Him dipping feels OOC but someone has to
i mean even wb is gonna dip at some point
everyone other than rocks wb and kaido will dip
Kaido, world’s strongest hypocrite
At times like these, I wish we could do an instant character poll just to see what it'd look like
watch everyone immediately switch up on him when he loses
Luffy might be the only person who beats Rocks if we polled right now
no one is switching up on him
I think it'd only happen if he came off looking undignified and pathetic
yall are crazy if you think oda is not gonna give him a glorious death
Oda is gonna have him going out looking good yeah
Rocks would have to drink the blood of orphans to get people to turn on him
It's payback for that time Rocks crushed him in one swing
He's the people's champ right now lol
The only way rocks could nearly beat imu is if oda has imus main body be a decent amount stronger
Like he can't put all of his power into Saturn
i think rocks is the first flashback only character to get this much popularity
I still think this is a decent amount of imus power
Oden is pretty up there
People forgot about Luffy bru
He won't be as high as you think he is for one main reason: he's chopped
eh did people actually like oden?
Hype moments and aura can't make up for that
Idrc about Oden
Loki HAS to be in it, he's been telling this story for the last 8 HOURS 
I did lol
Hating
Oden is p great
What do you read One Piece for then
I do too
Rocks will eclipse oden in character likability
I don't know by how much but I do like Rocks more
Never seen a character glazed like this
i think i like this flashback better, it is more of a story of stories
Definitely
we getting loki's story, harald's story, and rocks' story
know what
crackpot there i have just came up with (do not invest in this it WILL be false i am just spitballing)
what if imu purposefully engaged with rocks so as to take over rock's body and use him as a vessel of sorts
we know imu has possession type powers.
also there are a lot of ideas about imu possessing lily
i just think the idea is neat
I don't understand why the question in this context but the characters, lore, world building
This is just a mashup of all my favorite characters
When the arc has all your favorite characters >>>
Why you tryna be so rare penny just admit you like aura and hype moments
What does this have to do with his looks
I like good writing too
I think when we get past this flashback, I'll still like Rocks but won't be as hyped for him as I am right now
That’s important
Idk ask Socrates
Hype moments and aura is good writing
Needs a balance
Socrates you are extremely biased
Otherwise you turn into solo leveling
It's just a lot of stuff is going on with him at the center of it. A lot of great lore is surrounding him too which contributes to his likeability beyond his character
actually its not easy to write a good hype and aura farming character
You love a character that has done NOTHING but farm aura
Lore that we've been waiting on for years
It's not a bad thing necessarily, I think Loki does it well for example lol
uh
I can list his feats rn
Luffy
loki is more than just an aura farmer but i will socrates take this one lol
And that propels my eagerness to see him do stuff
we got some backstory from loki. thats at least SOMETHING
but then again socrates been on the loki train since even before that so...
Meet chained up man
That’s just d-riding
God forbid not being a bandwagon like all of you pretenders
Luffy, sanji, Robin, big mom, blackbeard
Etc
I'm with you penny, Story over Aura anyday
Lmao yeah exactly
bands bands bands thats a check talkin ♪
You people can't like a character when you like them you have to go through a series of checking for character development and world building
People who do that are performative manga readers
i wouldn't call blackbeard an aura farmer
I would tf
bandwagon?
im not a loki fan
not a loki hater per say
i just don't have strong liking or disliking towards him
Liking a character before you get anything from them because you know theyre hype is bandwagon in t
Blackbeard is definitely not a n aura farmer
Dragon is the only actual aura farmer lol
Look at this guy
He’s lost aura on too many occasions
Hmmm I must look east
Nah he's not an aura farmer
idk i feel like thats toei
Be mysterious and shit
in the manga he aint allat
Blackbeard has a certain charisma about him but he's not an aura farmer in the way Xebec is lol
Blackbeard might deadass be in aura debt
I got plenty you guys just didn't get what I got
lmaooo
😭
Yesh hes more in line with the pirate king roger
That's because he mostly takes care of business offscreen
Like Xebec has the qualities that Blackbeard has. A jolly charm and he just carries himself a certain way
how 😡
He's got a certain swag about him
lmao that made me chuckle
Me when I lie
He’s also not fat
swag 
and he aint a coward pathetic bitch like bb
Fat characters can be cool
for now

