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@pine scaffold thoughts on these colors ?
Not quite the boombox I had in mind š
Flashback ruined
Pack it up
Literally unreadable
Lmao
@blazing depot @runic dock thought on the way they handled the color scheme btw ?
I agree and really love the details about the outfits having some part of their main color schemes
One thing I find funny is that most of the Five Elders dub actors are random old theater guys from Texas, now theyāre important š
Doing fight scenes
Yeah itās catching up to the anime, and at this point when Elbaf arc starts it should air it at the same time imo
Jennifer lopez
Oh thatās pretty dope , canon elbaf colors 
Loki from the block
Or Kuma just took it out
tom hiddleston
At least now Garp had beaten the oppressor allegations and the one who actually getting slandered is someone who actually deserved it like Garling!
Loki being played by Selena? 
Iām more curious on who is voicing him in Japanese version
Garp is hanging by a thread at this point. Oda still has more work to do with him.
Dub is interesting cuz lately theyāve been getting some bigger named VOs for roles
Like Robbie Daymond for Oden
Loki being played by Dick Van Dyke
About time we got Franky, Brook, and Jinbeās color schemes, and I still love how some of the details of their outfits reflects their main color man
For two episodes before he dies
Oh yeah oda do be color coordinating their outfits 

True but at least now there is justification about how he acted last few chapters during the flashback tho
Garp just punch Imu or something. Or get domi reversid and your memory erased somehow.
Loki will get magenta
Garp has not beaten a single thing
Loki should be played by peter dinklage
That rarely happens with few exceptions and often when that happens itās mostly on color spreads so nice to see that on Elbaf ngl
As long as Garp is in the marines his allegations are not beaten
Lol. I remember he did a great job in destiny 
Or lavender
One thing I've noticed after a couple posts in piratefolk is they love Rocks so much they want Roger and Garp domi reversi'd instead
Either works
He plays a good certain kind of character but his voice wouldnāt fit loki lol
He isnāt aware of native hunting game on god valley
And now that heās aware heās going to continue being the dog he is
oh god......
He sucked in destiny
goda
lol yeah I meant aside from that
and once rocks dies they will call him a fraud and start calling someone else the goat
I must admit Iāve never seen piratefolk like a character so much
dinklage already played a giant once
He truly is their Bobby B
Bobby B is my Bobby B
Who should play Gunko
Bobby H is my Bobby B
I was a Bobby B fan before the meme was invented
I think Laura Bailey since she did stuff with Funimation in the past
Yeah Rocks is definitely going to get domi reversed tho
Margot Robbie
Itās definitely any shade of purple for sure
Peter Dinklage is the alpha male of dwarfism people
Henry Cavill
Like he mogs everyone else
Especially if Franky can get a lighter version of blue
yes I've seen the scene a thousand times bynow
Warwick Davis the GOAT, bro played Wicket the Ewok
Warwick Davis played every goblin in Harry Potter
Yeah and Vivi having white (gold)/platinum despite Brook already have white as his color along with black (sometimes in materials he is associated with grey), or how ochre for Jinbeās color is either brownish yellow or brownish orange, colors that Usopp and Nami already has.
Not saying Loki would join but he will obviously have a color scheme of his own to reflect him especially on the merch for sure.
I truly discovered myself thanks to tumblr. Thanks socrates
@rose rune thoughts on the Elbaf color scheme ?
Socrates uses Tumblr but ONLY for Loki

I dunno. Looks alright.
Interesting choice of words doffy
Fair
It doesn't evoke any strong emotions from me at least
True
it's serviceable
Manmayer Brook 
Yeah fair, I just wanted to point out the details thatās all
Bro, the AGENDAAAA
I will say tho. Nami looking like you would expect is kinda unexpected
Why didnāt he do nothing in Sabaody
Loki, Doflamingo, Blackbeard, and Xebec
GOD USOPP
Oda, don't neglect Usopp, please.
That's moria's shadow
Demon King Usopp before Elbaph ends
What do you mean ?
Just not the same ngl
He will come into clutch in the climax just like in dressrosa and other arcs
Imu gonna be sitting on Saturn crosses just like that
I guess bro
As in, she is colored in a way you would expect, which in itself is unexpected considering the wacky colors we have gotten recently
But wait thereās more
I feel like itās gonna be a Perona or Sugar situation
say less
Oh yeah I get that, I definitely like Namiās colors and itās far better than egghead plus her coat is lighter orange which is cool
Ngl this cover might've been able to fit for whatever volume this flashback is in
God Usopp vs an actual god
Itās the god pose
The same gimmick again would be awful
Tf
And with Imu? Just abysmal
Had no idea mine was sub-par this whole time
Or mustard yellow as we like to call it
patch update dropped gng mb
I mean itās closer to orange tbh
Imu is a top?
Buggy say it again we can't hear you
Well. Kinda hard to tell from the pic, since it's a photo of a projector screen or whatever
Imu is gonna be sitting on Saturn the same way
I am curious how comically evil Imu will be once we get more dialogue from them. We got the Lulusia event but I want to see more.
one more cuz ur a nice person
Are you sure? one more time
Imu is gonna be sitting on Saturn the same way
But yeah, it is on the orange side of yellow
You don't really support the agenda if you're scared to say it 1 last time
on my life we are ALL Rocks D. Xebec fans
yes WE all are
Except Penny
No
SPEAK OF THE DEVIL
Davy D Xebec
true
Or david as his friends call him
this is funny as fuck, i really hope she steals his soul under the lava to survive
didnt know rocks was british
welp

Peak colours
Oh I just saw the anime key visual and I forgot how ugly Usopp's Elbaf outfit is
what imu was TRULY afraid of
There are two sides in this server
Rocks meat riders, and Gunko Gooners
kaido is a walking ragebaiter
my god
Think of all the donuts he could fit in dragon form
x100 portgas
š¤ 
Same energy
The Loki Xebec parallels are outta control
such a great chapter, awesome ending panels
smh
point and laugh

bye chat
gn let the bed bugs bite they're hungry
wtf man
if you're hungry they're hungry too
Thank you Red Jinbe
yw
š„
Why are all of these so ass
wheres Thriller Bark
I only see one ass
I forgot I had this screenshot
The Sb curse can't fail us now
bye enjoy your next hours
u too
ā„ļø
twice
i will have a peaceful sleep
twice in the same chapter
actually was it twice in the same page?
Why you got the smile pfp sb
Oh
is that scary kuina šš„
Possibly
wait I thought u meant the one where he has slices in his head and then the 2nd where hes on the floor
down d. stairs got buffed in the afterlife
both yes
need a story on ts
graling bros
Gunko gooners rise up
it's so over
rocks about to get neg diffed by imu
Nope
What about the TOPMAN
Did you abandon Saturn Sb?
Hes technically not in the WG anymore
is he??
Got a double barrel shotgun of a nose
so he doesnt count.
shanks will get the same fate as his father
True...
wtf man this giant glaze in the anime
Now we wait for Oda to give us parallels
Looking forward to all the names he will be called when he loses
NOTMAN
even that japanese soldier had to quit after 29 years
Dorry and Broggy were beating the shit out of Warcury in the anime
it was crazy
mihawk awakening
this is worse than aura piece
Galdino upscale
fuck toei
''I AM THE SUN GOD WHO WILL BRING ABOUT THE END OF IMU''
That means he's basically confirmed to participate in the final war
yo wait hold on that kinda makes sense
SEKAI
Right? 
wait a minute.......
How would Loki know about IMU though?
it does. SB cracked the code.
Yall would fail a college English class
In this context it makes sense
imu really gonna dog twice on rocks in the same flashback
This is what Yamato/Carrot/Bonney/Loki fans want while denying the inevitable
rocks agenda is FINISHED
how we feeling on Garp, Spice?
Time to reread One Piece and reinterpret every mention of "the world"
IMU WILL SINK*!!*
-Vegapunk Stella
I get it and we do need the actual photo to see more clearly b the saturation is definitely darker than egghead
@dense haven if Imu gets a single bad panel next chapter, Imu is done for
be warned.
I don't think garp and roger are gonna do much in gv ngl
Well for one, Loki may not have met Imu but he knows he has to bring about the end of it
How the heck did Eris expect to make it all the way to lulsia from the west blue???
unless all 3 jump on imu
Rocks is getting domi reversed btw
will of D.
well actually
Bruh
with her devil fruit powers of course 
Eris is stupid
Maybe Loki knows Imu by their other name, the world
walking on water duh
Imu cant win a 5 v 1
its not every mention but its probably like almost every mention
imu can easily 5v1
Eris has some capability, she was very confident in herself
nope
"THE FIRST IMU"
Oda is about to show what Imu is really capable of next chapter?
Mihawk, #1 swordsman "in the world" 
Woah what episode is this from?
Imu even fighting this combination in a satellite body is gonna be unbelievable
Is eris from d clan too or not confirmed?
Looked good in the manga but they peak it in the anime
it's imu clones all the way down
Eris married into the D clan?
Eris D. ...
Rip merry
that wouldnt even make sense because Eris is her name
not family name
Tar D. Eris makes more sense
Tar?
Tar?
Why does blackbeard write "marshall d teach" could he possibly take his name from his mother?
oh I thought you were copying the buggy theory
This theory sucks
Eris D. Tar, because Imu's magic circle says it
eristar is peak
Not even the worst Eris theory
lmao
she looks like evil nami
Ngl, i donāt think they can kill Mu
if you arent a Xebec fan, you are losing rn
She looks nothing like Nami
I'd hate to be a Xebec hater
At least call her a Robin clone smh
Penny enters the chat
Weak bait do better

Shes still a clone tho just not a Nami one
people are just being silly, Robin clone makes more sense yea
she looks less Robin than I expected actually, but still 100x more Robin than Nami lol
reminds me more of evil pudding
Shakky had a Robin clone panel too
heh. Nerona Nami's mother.

As if there are major differences in Robin and Nami's faces
if you mean after oda namified robin
socrates shut up
lol
Are there any differences between Harald and Loki
No oda hancockified robin
Well sheās definitely a D cause how else Blackbeard has āMarshallā as his sir name tho ?
Pre-Timeskip, theyāre not even remotely similar
Eris is a peak character
its just two black haired women's side profile matching each other while their eyes are entirely closed
She looks more like Robin
So clones
not a clone
That'd be an absolutely rivetting point if we were in the fucking pre-timeskip


Eris is a Jinny clone
I dont see it
Eris is a lola clone
Shakky is a Nami clone inconsistently drawn as a Robin clone
One has a mustache
I see it thigh
The past is never to be forgotten
Harald is a Kaido clone
A mustache immediately turns a man into a completely different person
She's like Olvia if Olvia didn't wash her hair for 3 months
Loki doesnāt look like harald to me
Loki just hasnt gotten to Harald's age, he'll get a sick moustache at some point
Youāre not ready for mustache Loki
Loki is pretty different looking from his father
Loki just just giant Bellamy with a bandage on his eyes
Actually eris is a bit like nami if she was born with a different face
He takes after his mother more I assume
I like how nobody is mentioning his eyes
Hajrudin looks like harald
Loki is a Doflamingo clone actually
will we see her ever again?
You are wrong but also not wrong and I hate that
We are 100% seeing her next chap
for sure
will she be dead?
No
Please no more clones pleeease. Itās actually such a tired story element atp
No. She will kill blackbeard before she does it to herself

and Harald is a Kaido clone
She's still super dead
Mustache Loki is prime Loki according to Oda
Weevil should be the last major clone/artificial human reveal left. Anything more than that is just too much
Mihawk is an Imu clone
Eris is getting killed by the goth HK who left the battlefield because she thought Garling would be able to handle Rocks
Eris first and then.. Ida
So not nami ?
now she was wrong about that, clearly, but she will still kill Eris
Blackbeard is a blackbeard clone
yeah
Thanks for reminding me that I need to sleep
get a job dawg
The raid to fight Imu will FAIL
10/10 socrates, you got him to delete it

We on roger like this if he does anything detrimental
man these people must be like 4 chapters ahead
I'm already on Roger like that
"after finding out what Roger did at God Valley" and he hasnt done anything yet 
Make it end...
when buggy dies
Cropping your shit canāt be that hard gang šš
You will win. Gunko will be redeemed
give it 4 chapters penny

Gunko will get her time in about 30 chapters
Get a job
IT'S ALL MAKING SENSE NOW
Lowkey geeked
6 7 IS EVERYWHERE
Oh yeah isn't the 67 kid doing crypto scams now
yeah, drop loki gang
tale as old as time
Iām not saying itās the right thing to do
Following in the footsteps of the hawk tuah girl
But if youāre getting scammed by the 67 kid it might be natural selection
At least he made something out of it
Viral internet stars donāt even do tv shows like Fred or Annoying Orange
They go straight to crypto rugs
Might be the funniest expectations vs reality from RTTR
oh wait I saw that kid talking about him making a coin LMAO
If I was a part of a big meme like that I'd be making money off of it too
Same comic?
Him not betraying rocks burned agendas
Yh
The fact that people buy these rug pulls makes me realise why propaganda is so effective
well its up there but not the funniest
who
the funniest is still Xebec being Imu lmao
WB stays winning. Always have, always will.
I din't bet money on that
I hate One Piece fans
They have a coin for fucking everything
Oh yeah? Where's Idacoin?
no
who is him I just got here
Whitebeard
Xebec propaganda was insane everyone was convinced the guy was pure evil
Webec
??????
He should have been
Rocks being Imu was horrid and im not even saying it based on what we know now
Garp is a dumbass
Rocks being Imu would be insanely mid
Invest in Lokicoin
Garp isn't a pirate, he doesn't get pirate info
Garling and co. really got wasted 
Garp doesnāt read the news
Because he probably has access to different channels than Garp. Garp only has propaganda
The info got leaked
Sb its not hard to figure out the answer on that one, you dont have to post a piratefolk post
garp is willfully ignorant. he never asked cause he knew what the answer might be
I donāt doubt garp didnāt know about it but I think itās because he kind of chooses not to
Like he knew someone put in a report of a human hunt then disappeared
Whats the answer
Jay D Legend and Piratefolk have ruined this fandomās reading comprehension
Hm. I wonder if WB had access to info because of Rocks? And maybe Garp is kind of just an idiot? I don't know, Oda could've handled this all better with Garp to be honest. Granted, Garp might just be blasted with propaganda in his younger years for all I know. Though, he somehow knew about this CD event, just not that it was a hunting game. It makes you wonder how a game of telephone didn't at least start concerning this event every three years.
ye, but WB knew beforehand or at least heard of it
Garp also did , this implies Garp heard rumors as well and heās confirming them now
Garp was genuinly clueless
Garp did hear rumors too but probably ly didnāt believe them when a pirate already doesnāt believe them as well
They're starting to remind me of eachother
The Marines might've qwelled rumors too. But still, something's gotta give
Garp knew someone disappeared after a report regarding something like the human hunt he just choose to not look further into it lmao
āTHEY REALLY DID THISā implies he heard of it before this moment
runs in the family
the best case scenario for garp is that he's been undercover planning to overthrow the wg after gv
ah, maybe we should wait for Viz with this one
I donāt doubt heās clueless itās just that he chooses to be clueless until itās right in his face
cause that's very particular wording
Hopefully it aint tcb misinformation
It probably is
Weāll have to see then
If you're right, Earl, you're being promoted
Is there a lore reason why he got a fresh lineup
I reject the promotion
does it? I see it as disbelief
"gotta look good for shakky"
Perhaps, or the WG and the marines involved just did a good job of covering their tracks
Ive been on Garp side from the start
i feel like we gotta see some downsides or limitations to domi reversi soon. At our current understanding i have the question, why not just reversi people all the time? Why is this such an exceptional thing? Why not show up and reversi dragon and the revolutionaries against each other?
Who do you think you are? Garp?
Oda needs to deliver
Full sentence could be āIāve heard rumors before but I couldnāt believe it until now, they really did this ā
I think Garp simply doesn't pay attention to the rumor mill, its not all that complex to me. WB is a pirate and they're more tapped into this stuff through their information networks going all the way down to the underworld.
he was trying to get with shakky
The man marked by flames
Trust me


Chill
No the fishman guy that I forgot the name of is 100% the man marked by flames
Oda wanted to stay consistent with Barbell's look in Kuma's flashback but I am sure he will make up some SBS answer like "he wanted to clean up good for Shakky" if asked lol
hell, why not domi reversi Rocks the moment he broke into the flower room. there is at least one theory it doesn't work on conqueror users (though I don't know if Garp and Roger had conq in this flashback or not, 'cause some think they will be reversi'd instead)
The Earl marked by flames
that is the obvious answer no?
If domi reversi is a df ability , haki cancellation could be possible
I just want to say barbell had a flame looking haircut and couldāve possibly been a former fishman slave with that sun crest on him being why heās marked by flames
Invest in the barbell agenda
shanks was probably terrorizing the Roger pirates all night long when he was a baby
yea, its not acknowledged but its probably true
If barbel isnāt the man marked by flames Iāll change my name to WAKAINU
Just change it now
My agenda is right until itās proven wrong 

Barbell had a chance to be the one marked by flames
The man marked by flames is the unseen Marine who tried to report the killing games
Why did you use had

But he might really be a background character in the end
Barbell will never be relevant
Just like his cousin Sunbell
Cuz hes a background character rn
Negs Gunko btw š
Cousin??
What did that fraud do to get praise over gunko?
Gunko turns that fishman into a slave
What do you mean by that penny
Your goat (probably) became a Moria zombie
Doing nothing is better than having association to the fodder knights
Wait what
Associated with the god of the world*
Barbell is getting killed by a stray Roger slash next chapter, he doesn't matter
So is garling
Look what happened to him
Well this simply means Gunko > Garling
Had another HK and a demon army with him just to get mid diffed at most
not killed, just heavily scarred. and don't even ask about the shape of said scar
When barbell is revealed to be the man marked by flames
Wait wait no, he's dead dead
I want you guys to stay on this side
Yeah she's a tool, even worse
There's a suspiciously Barbell-shaped zombie in Thriller Bark...
Most of the irrelevant Rocks Pirates will die here
Yeah because of what Penny said
Man marked by flames survived domi reversi perhaps??
Heās part of the main crew
Barbell is gonna be killed and his corpse will be left to rot till Hogback recovers it and puts him in that barbell shaped armor
Well no
Its really that simple
Pic?
The people who were retrieved by hogback didnāt die at GV
Ganzui failed me
lmao
Uh
Well he did
Captain John was betrayed and killed by his crew iirc
Barbell probably died by random pirates
And he was one of the corpses
Ganzui too š
John is the only confirmed one to not die at GV among the Rocks zombies
So we'll see
Exactly so this idea that all the bodies are from GV isnāt true
Silver Axe is gonna die to fake Marco
Itās possible they all just died in different ways
or Shiki just kills him
Silver axe also survived
wang zhi
And second of all Warbell isnāt part of the zombies hogback retrieve me
Sengoku said they went on to gain notoriety
gil bastar will get his time in the spoltight anytime now
that was marco. oda messed up
Oda forgot about the claw guy smh
So Oda just threw the fu man chu on him for the culture?
Silver Axe wont die here
Silver axe survived
Shiki prolly kills him tho
silver axe is the man marked by marks
Claw guy would've died to a stray bullet if Oda remembered him
Or course he won't die here, he's Higurashi
Oda likes creating fun unique designs
The angle is bad but from another panel we see barbel is much bigger than that
Well they couldn't recover his legs
They had to be replaced with smaller legs
Oh yep
I mean I can't argue with that
Reminder that Higurashi had Shiki's face and her laugh is "kyo kyo kyo"
Does silver axe have a fruit like weāve seen before? Like maybe Urouge?
Sengoku when he isnāt lying š„ š„ 
Probably Urouge's
Nah he dead then

My barbel investment will be remembered as the greatest investment oat
man has never told a complete truth in his life
If barbel has no fans im dead
The perfect marine
Most Rocks Pirates have done very little here, they're basically fun uniquely designed background characters
Itās not quite clear yet but itās very possible due to his intro panel
He was normal sized got hit and then got so big he could grab a guy by his skull
Shiki hype is so funny to me cuz you have to ignore most of his appearances and take things WAY out of context to make it work
So I wouldn't expect much from any of them, maaaybe Silver Axe will be the exception to that
Let me explain why barbel is the man marked by flames
But he was getting kicked around by fake Marco so its not looking good for him
Not at all, I donāt have to stretch anything to make this good characterization work
Shiki haters are crackheads
SHE DONT WANT HIM
Oh my god
HES DOWN BAD
Loki to the Golden Lion Pirates
This is like the most annoying thing ever
To hype shiki?
Yep
shiki is dead now. he went to see Mihawk but one of the monkeys got to him
Bro is letting the enemy escape with shakky just to make sure she doesnāt get hurt by wayward attacks
Heās not even chasing her
The Shakky simping thing might be the worst plot point in one piece
Relax man
What da hell do we gotta ignore š
THE ONE MOVIE HES A MAIN CHARACTER IN
Shakky was a mistake
Oda wrote it...
The non canon event?
āNuh uh that doesnāt countā
ODA WROTE THAT SHIT
And its not canon
Itās not canon
- The flame part could be alluding to his flame like hair or a sun crest that he has tattooed
- The last road poneglyph was last seen on fishman island which later become whitebeards territory as a fishman and wbs former crew member it would make sense if heād taken it at one point for safety
- Heās a strong fishman the whirlpools is probably just some fishman karate or some shit
Thats the fate Oda decided for Shiki, that was his worth
Oda can write non canon movies
Warbel
Not canonically confirmed down
The goat marked by flames
But shiki being a movie villain is indeed a W
Oda and female characters.
classic
Nah itās a non canon movie , plenty one piece movies use canon characters in non canon events
Shiki getting a movie to his name IS a W
Itās called playing pretend
Barbell wont be relevant in the current day because hes probably dead and Oda is racist
Well I'm not saying he can't return but the movie is Oda doing what he wanted to do with him
Nah thatās absolutely coming from nowhere
Aka out of your ass
Well no
It really isn't though, he himself said that
Thatās all you have
Idk what that means, cuzā¦what did Oda do with Shiki canonically
COMMON SENSE
No itās not
What
Common sense is movies arenāt canon
Thatās it
Stop overthinking it
Oda said he wanted to sidebench Shiki or something?
Jesus louisuz
In the canon he said my plan has roughly 20 years of set up and strong world is non canon so his plan still has yet to be carried out in canon even if oda did something with him in strong world that doesnāt stop him from using him again in the canon
Only thing I could say is Oda never liked Shiki's fruit but that's really it
Otherwise Oda never had some agenda to fuck over Shiki
I see Shiki in the movie being in a similar case with Moria, both being washed out pirates who used to be great who didn't bother to keep up with the times
Yeah doesnāt really make sense
This is just plain ridiculous lol
What about what I said is ridiculous
There's not going to be another Shiki 20 years plan, its been 22 years lmao
Shiki delayed his plans by another 2 years
The movie is his grand 20 year plan playing out
Because of Luffy š„
so now garp knows everything
It was said at minimum 20 years iirc couldāve been more
Thats it, its done
Man fuck the entire chapter 0, shiki exists in the story and we donāt know what happened to him after god valley
Luffy delayed his plans š„
There I said it
and yet this nigga still a marine to this day š
Fuck chapter 0
and he tried to make luffy a marine š
I donāt think shiki will return but itās not a 0% chance
We literally donāt know anything about him after GV
Aint no fuck chapter 0
Thatās the canon story of Shiki
No
It doesn't matter, that plan only exists for the movie
What Earl is saying actually is fine with me
Because if we count chapter 0 then we donāt count the last page and if we donāt count the last page then fuck all of it tbh
If shiki does return I think itāll be via time leaping after stumbling across tokis fruit which respawned and having something time jump him to the present
Just stop mentioning the 20 year plan, its gone, its over
@ashen perch
22 year plan
Its called letting Oda cook
I donāt think heāll return lmao Iām just saying thereās a possibility
shiki was created for the movie, he's not gonna have any significance in the current timeline
Oda put his pen and art into that chapter to give Shiki a story canon to his character
I'd just see Shiki as irrelevant since the whole thing is the new generation of pirates are about to succeed the old as Whitebeard believed
Rarely ever does that
Oda will have to address what Shiki did after God Valley I'm sure, he will address it at some point
I will always let him cook , Iām just giving Shiki ultimate freedom this way, the world is his oyster , he wouldnāt even be tired down to impel down lore this way
If he was only created for the movie then chapter 0 wouldnāt have shown him to be an rival of Roger lmao
That could still be the case but we have to exclude the last page because it ties directly to the movie
Op super Shiki
And if weāre already making exceptions
Return of Strong World: The 22 year plan
Then is it even canon at all
Canon Shiki is everything we got, chapter 0, GV, etc
All of chapter 0 is canon
The word world has a whole new meaning now
But who are we to make exceptions
And what does chapter 0 lead into to
The movie isnāt canon tho
So explain the last page
Imu the earth god ?
What could this MEAN
Only xebec knows
It could just be oda alluding to it still happening in a canon context
But itās been 22
Unless heās already started doing something in the background 2 years ago
"and thus 20 years passed" continues right into the movie
I guess
ā20 years at the EARLIESTā shit doesnāt have to be exact lmao
Earl is on the right track, ignore that last page
It doesn't exist, it doesn't matter, its never existed
Aside from all of that stuff , I still think Shiki was responsible for pulling caponeās ship up into the sky during the timeskip
It continuing into the movie doesnāt discredit it being canon oda wouldāve made that clear imo
With that floating orb ball
Maybe Oda brings Shikis plans ahead by like 6 years
Shiki
And has him lose to Loki or something
That'd be fun!
Yeah thatās what I wanted in elbaf before Gaban stole his place 
And now Gaban is parent diffed and Iām still waiting for Shiki
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This is just the New World being weird probably
Well you can still want it lol, it still works
Kid fans experience 1% of the pain the average Shiki fan has to face
Iād buy that in the old one piece fan era
Not anymore
Shiki exists , it couldāve been him
Heās a weird feature of the op world

Shiki exists ofc but I mean that whole part is the New World being crazier than anything we've ever seen
god kngihts always need imu to bail them out bruh
Thats just wacky new world shenanigans
That's the point of showing it, thats all
wtf even was it? A flying any thing in the sky of one piece is conspicuous
Not many things fly
Things as in objects
Not people
Maybe a Sky Island that can lower its altitude, idk
What if ur a kidd fan and a shiki fan
Shiki is as equally possible and likely as any other possibility , now that heās super duper ultra canon
Are you shanks, earl. We might have beef

why must there always be a break š„
Imo to have shiki alive and do nothing is a waste if the plan was to never happen a better idea wouldāve been to use shiki as a hype tool for shanks or Loki
This was a planned one
Because Oda is DYING
They just go ahead with the planned breaks even if Oda takes a sudden one
rokaya just wished death on oda
how are they still a mod
Oda should probably stop, I want my choptir NOW!
i think zoro can take out a god knight
Thatās so unfair, im not paying Oda for this
with his cooked ass haki?
Server corruption
You are paying Oda?
with what
Is this even a flex anymore
he has conq haki and a legendary sword
Zoro kills Killingham
Zoro cant even take out an overgrown cat
or do you mean on a date
can Oda pay me instead
zoro x killingham
And the former is dogshit
Did you not see Gaban shitting on Zoro
Zoro can take out those armored little dudes that guard around in Marie Geoise
in the key fight?
They're knights and they're for the Gods

All Zoro needs is the conq haki gaban and rocks has and he cooks most the HK
Only exceptions are shamrock and maybe Gunko
he already has conq haki he just needs to wield it better lol
Get him past Qilingham first
Killingham is Who's Who level
in racism maybe
even rocks couldn't get past the regen. he could only slow it down
but i am sure hes much stronger
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But with that type of haki you can take them down as seen with garling laying on the ground tapped out
Temporarily
still can't kill them
Killing someone isnāt the only way to win a fight lmao
I still can't believe Oda did Garling this dirty
Which kinda sucks tbh, because you need special CoC and it still doesnāt even kill them
What is happening to this man
Gaban says they aren't actually immortal which is weird
He's returning to his prime
Arlong level without regen
I blame the JJK editor
Whatās the thorn HKs name again
Sommers
Sommers with no regen vs franky
Franky
I'm taking sommers
Am I wrong for saying franky brutally wins
Sommers is at least as strong as Jack
No because Robin would've beat Sommers if he didnt have regen
She already broke his spine
Wait prove that
Is Sommers still as durable as a wet paper towel?
Hes essentially saying theyre not invulnerable, the immortality he used there translates to āinvulnerableā there Im pretty sure and in that sense, it stands to reason why he said that. Cuz you can hurt them, but they still wont rlly die
Yes lmao
Franky wins
Franky is lowkey lighting him up
does sommers know he doesn't have regen
1 Radical Beam cooks
Uhhhh, he lasted a couple secs against Old Gaban with no arm ig
Yes
yeah sommers takes it easily
Out of shape tired Marco lasted seconds against kaido
Wait prove that
Katakuri with no observation haki vs king without lunarian genes
Um
King still cooks
Being immortal would mean youāre more careless
All the fire attacks are lunarian genes
He just blocked an attack, makes more sense to use BM
Luffy without Arms v Zoro without Swords
Luffy without arms
Sommers is perfectly capable of fighting without regen
He still has his legs and head
kata is too much of a glass cannon. he should be big mad at Kaido
Itās like saying Usopp is stronger than Gunko cause he blew her
Wait prove that
But blocking boro breath is better than anything Jack can do so i mean
Maji already did
he has decent haki and uses his fruit well
Honestly I could beat Sommers if he had no immortality
I'd say King takes it, Kata with no obs is like removing his entire thing of pretending to be a logia
Well I was trying to say that removing a key part of someone's fighting style is bad buut still smh
I could do it right now
He fought old gaban lol
Well no we just know ussop has the ability to hurt her
Who counters his regen
Let me just look at the fight again give me a second
Wait, did yall forget the performance sommers had against old gaban after getting offguarded
And NO ARM?
he did what to who now
Sommers can for sure fight
Like Logia users like with Caribou, he ends up getting his ass kicked by Pekoms, a New World pirate and served under an Emperor
He would have killed Robin if he was forced not to rely on regen
Franky could do that
Sommers is not weak, he's just unlucky
Yea Sommers did not expect Gaban to be around
but also cocky and careless because of the regen
He couldn't even clash blades with Sasaki
Sasaki is stronger than Sommers
Franky post powerup will be a monster but relaaaax for now
@sweet anvil Gaban offguarded him off the initial attack and then he basically shits himself and cant fend in time https://scans-hot.planeptune.us/manga/One-Piece/1148-015.png
You don't have to hype up this weaker version of him
any arc now heāll be getting that power up
Is the truth hype?
Sommers blocks https://scans-hot.planeptune.us/manga/One-Piece/1149-005.png
Blocking 1 attack isnāt a great argument
Sommers exists just to get bodied
Blocks Acoc attacks
who will he serve as the hype tool for next
It wasnāt one
Lets just be very real, this HK slander will pass and will look real silly anyways
Do we remember what garp did to the bbp
It was multiple

Usopp fight
Bodied by both wings of the former Pirate King
If no aokiji was there he wouldve squad wiped them
And we thought it was gonna be Gaban bodying him on GV
the god valley flashback is a bit of an ill omen for them
Sommers gets offguarded, retaliates and fends off multiple attacks against Gaban with ONE ARM
and considering luffy and zoro are fighting them next, it may be joever
Dragon being cautious of the Holy Knights since he was nearly killed by one
Even if itās acoc at the end of the day he didnāt show great relativity if he didnāt get snuck there would be an argument but small scuffles like that donāt mean much considering theyāre extremely common in one piece
so i guess dragon did not get his fruit at GV? (if he has one)
But even without waiting for the future to come, the facts are there. Its silly to do all this over Young Garling losing to ROCKS or Maffey being caught off guard by a stray WB slash or Sommers just being comically pushed through a wall by Rayleigh lol
These are all strong characters lol
enough to beat franky
Still possible, he needs to still put Shanks in a chest
still pretty unclear even with the hints that he could able to control wind
Personally Iām not a fan of what Rayleigh did to sommers
Huffing and puffing after like 2 attacks
Is summers washed
Jack isnāt losing an arm and then clashing with ACoC Gaban by on screen evidence
So you wanted him to kill Shakky i see
no one deserves to get hit or what
Like, even if you want to say Gaban is overall stronger, hes still putting in rep most commanders aint doing
Oda didnāt do this even though he would have regenerated from this anyways
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He can be as brutal as he wants with the regen merchants
he's just gonna regenerate and retaliate
maybe dragon gets the fart fart fruit and it has a butteryfly effect on weather patterns
Yea but like a panel of half of sommers body on the floor as he struggles to reconnect it would be funny
Sommers clearly is afraid of Gaban
Like i said small clashes like that donāt mean a lot in one piece unless youād like to argue ultis relativity to base Onigashima Luffy when I think he would realistically mid diff her
i cannot wait for the regen to be fully countered so we can do actual fights with the knights
He could just go back thru the opening in the wall and retaliate
Send him flying away because ngl having Sommers lying on the floor trying to regen ruins the moment of Rayleigh rescuing Shakky
unless he's miles away
Its really just supposed to be funny
sommers is just a force of silly
The attacks being acoc provide a better argument but at the end of the day gaban was chilling and knew he would cook Sommers with his next attack
Well, Ulti is physically relative to Base Onigashima Luffy Pre-ACoCā¦since yknow, she physically held him in place. Like I said, tho, you can say Gaban is stronger by a good bit, its still something most commanders aint doing
Don't ignore the context, Gaban was in a hurry
Sommers dying in Elbaf is gonna be so cathartic
he wonāt
oda wonāt let his sandbag die
Very serious
If he doesn't, we have to ban you and only you.

even rocks couldn't kill a gk
I hope, he's such a sadistic PoS that he even willing to kill Shakky so he can savor the despair from the pirates trying to save her

