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burnt cedar
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Then koln fans changed their phone home screens to arsenal images

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So they couldn’t kick them out

sweet tree
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bruh this image

unborn sandal
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omg Braga with 9 players

robust grotto
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2 years later. A fucking semi finals. Football, man

sweet tree
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grats bro

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hope yall go on to win it

burnt cedar
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I’d love West Ham to win it

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Send mark noble off into retirement as a champion

robust grotto
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No matter what happens, it’s been an unbelievably special season

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2 seasons really.

robust grotto
robust grotto
broken ledge
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west ham should win the europa league fr

unborn sandal
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oh, the Rangers match is spicy. They got one goal and two men of advantage, but they're wasting like crazy

All it takes is a counterattack

robust grotto
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tbh it’s the right move. He should be a staple for team USA in the WJC next year too

celest zephyr
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yeah its better let him develop

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and tbh he'll be more likely to be a rotation guy in 2023-2024, since i don't see much of a point bringing in a highly touted prospect right before the playoffs and even if he joins, it'd be hard to make the third or fourth line on a regular basis for a good playoff team (barring bad injury luck next season) with only 10-15 games left

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don't really see rotational minutes for him this season

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and hopefully they'll re-sign enough guys to be fine this season

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bringing up abruzzese as depth would also help and considering the callup seems fairly likely to be getting a chance to play consistent minutes next season

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since even he's been an absolute no factor for the leafs

dim kettle
celest zephyr
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Shit went down south at Curva Sud

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Already

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Curva Sud really went wild

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It was like 50% Frankfurt fans

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A lot of hardcore Barcelona fans there and the Frankfurt fans got into a big argument then starting throwing punches

dim kettle
rustic ore
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Poor Ohtani

honest umbra
rustic ore
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He just threw a grand slam

proud coyote
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angels are the kings of good on paper bad in theory

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no clue why

honest umbra
proud coyote
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tbh though

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sans 2002

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it's been true as long as I've paid any attention

dim kettle
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Disney ran the Angels better than Moreno. That should sum it up.

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Can the Stanley Cup playoffs start already so the Bolts can actually give a shit for 60 minutes again.

simple seal
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That was close for sure

honest umbra
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hes so good

celest zephyr
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Wow

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7-3 over the caps and Matthews doesn’t score

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Pens clinch also

dim kettle
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Miguel Cabrera is getting real close to 3000 hits.

severe geyser
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lebron james

robust grotto
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Am I right @dim kettle

dim kettle
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Yep. That's what I call a playoff push

rustic mountain
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I apparently have MLB extra innings

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So I guess I'll be watching the Jays quite a bit this year

honest umbra
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it doesnt work

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:(

rustic mountain
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Big sad dud2

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Dude

dim kettle
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Yeah, I get blackouts for Rays games.

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For MLB TV

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It sucks because if the Rays and White Sox play each other I'm stuck with the Rays feed which I prefer NBC Sports Chicago.

buoyant jungle
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This hurts my soul BobbinFeels

dim kettle
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Happens when ownership tries to imitate Major League

honest umbra
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u watching dis? @rustic mountain

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mr chapman at it again

dim kettle
honest umbra
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jays up with no outs

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2nd and 3rd base

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chapman pitching

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down 0-3 in 9th

rustic mountain
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Bases are loaded

honest umbra
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bases loaded no outs

rustic mountain
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Brooooo

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Let's gooooo

honest umbra
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springer HR here?

dim kettle
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Can’t underestimate the Jays bats

rustic mountain
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Come on George

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Sorry I was a little behind Fate

honest umbra
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all good

rustic mountain
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Chapman pulled since he walked Chapman

honest umbra
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dont wanna spoil u

rustic mountain
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You're good

dim kettle
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0 outs bases loaded. Like, holy shit, Yanks

rustic mountain
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Springer my guy

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Please

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Come thru lad

dim kettle
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The Yanks reddit page is gonna be so salty if they lose this

rustic mountain
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I may visit it lmao

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But

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Not trying to jinx it

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Michael King pitching eh

dim kettle
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ERA is low.

rustic mountain
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If Vladdy was hitting well tonight

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Or Springer

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Or anyone

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Fuck

honest umbra
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what a sequence

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sheesh

rustic mountain
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That's just one out tho

honest umbra
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perfectly placed

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bichette and then vlad yea?

rustic mountain
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Fuck.

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Oh well it's Bo no2

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Now

honest umbra
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oh

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hes getting calls

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on edge

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sheesh

rustic mountain
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Duck

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Fuckkkk

dim kettle
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I hate that whistle sound when a Yank pitcher strikes out a batter

rustic mountain
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God damn it

honest umbra
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lmaoo

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it took him 5 pitches?

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sheesh

rustic mountain
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Vladdy didnt even get a chance

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Because of Chapman

dim kettle
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That hurts

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Lol

rustic mountain
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God damn it

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Oh well

dim kettle
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Chapman got cocky

rustic mountain
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Split the series

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We move on to the A's

dim kettle
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After what the A’s did to the Rays, I’m probably not gonna watch an A’s game for awhile lol

rustic mountain
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Yeah

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Wtf happened

dim kettle
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Pitching

rustic mountain
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Shit

dim kettle
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Rays face the White Sox next. So I can’t lose for the next 3 games

rustic mountain
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I just hope the pitching wakes up. I would love to see some consistency

dim kettle
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I don’t think the A’s will be a problem for you. The Rays just have one boogeyman every year. Last year it was the Mariners, looks like this year is the A’s

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Buehler just gave up a 2 run dinger.

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And... he's gone.

honest umbra
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looked good all night

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till he gave that up

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sheesh

celest zephyr
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hopefully matthews doesn't suddenly go cold

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rocket is one thing, but like going in cold into the playoffs after the season he's had would be really bad

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caps just look done

dim kettle
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I will laugh if they beat the Panthers in the first round.

celest zephyr
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i don't know who it'll be

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i mean i'll laugh regardless, like this team is the third best in the division

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i don't want the panthers though it'd be lame to have both teams with a streak of not winning in the first round face each other

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boston would be fun for the stories but its looking like tampa

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honestly all jokes or revenge aside tampa is probably the cleanest team in the atlantic. like boston is dirty when they are losing and responding to them is just more suspensions and injuries

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i don't trust florida to not be rats either especially with how last postseason went. tampa obviously can act like goons to a lesser extent than boston but idk that's also the playoffs. expecting the nhl playoffs to not have physicality and be dirty would just be foolish.

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win or lose, it'll most likely be the fairest hockey

robust grotto
celest zephyr
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confirmed refs support the bruins

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seriously though leagues where like refs are on the field of play definitely can complicate things

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like anything remotely equivalent to dallas running out of time wouldn't happen in the nba

dim ledge
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I hate this

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PSG aren't a club, they're a brand

spice pelican
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true

celest zephyr
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Really feel bad for PSG fans and ultras

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the real ones support the club and is watching their club die

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Nasser trying to do something like Flo at his first tenure at Real except Flo built the image from an prexisting image of Real as a top world class club

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while PSG yet to have a UCL to even call themself world class

broken ledge
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PSG should stick to making tracksuits and stuff AkainuLUL

short spindle
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Dyche sacked

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No more brexit football

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Shit decision imo 8 games to go while you're trying to escape relegation

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Sorry mikel, we can't pass this up

burnt cedar
burnt cedar
dim kettle
rustic ore
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Yeesh

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Little rich for a guy past his prime

celest zephyr
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Burnt out flames. Lost 6-1 to the knights

dim kettle
robust grotto
dim ledge
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❤️

native sonnet
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That's rough

celest zephyr
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Never any good news for PG 🥲

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Damn feels bad

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That’s their season

versed forge
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Rip clippers

celest zephyr
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crap

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muzzin is out again

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looks like sandin is getting rotational minutes consistently now along with holl

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lili probably got hurt also in that game

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rubins wouldn't be brought up in all likelihood if they still had one of sandin or holl getting healthy scratched

rustic ore
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The Titans are on track for a new stadium. It will be expensive. And it will have a roof. Which undoubtedly means it will host at least one Super Bowl.Via the Tennessean, a new domed stadium for the Titans could open by 2026, and it could cost up to $2.2 billion.The stadium would take 31 [more]

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🧐

celest zephyr
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not sure i like this trend

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25 years isn't a long time for a stadium nor does it seem like their current one has significant issues

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like i don't care when metlife or fedex field were made they have to be either repaired/modified or new ones have to be built

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because they have garbage fields and fedex is falling apart

robust grotto
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But… cap will be tough.

dim kettle
celest zephyr
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lili seems to be fine

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sandin was placed on ir on march 21 welp. seems likely he won't play in the playoffs

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if they can move mrazek and take in a) a player of use or b) not take much cap back then it'll be fine

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muzzin is deff gone

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if he avoids contact and with his nonexistent footspeed then he's done in the nhl

dim kettle
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No, the Leafs have to keep the meme of Roronoa Mrazek alive, damnit!

celest zephyr
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monkey's paw curls he gets released and he joins the lightning

dim kettle
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Jokes on you, we already extended Elliot for another year

celest zephyr
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vasi needs some rest it'll be fine

dim kettle
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Vasy got benched yesterday. Played the worst hockey of the season in the second period.

celest zephyr
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yeah minutes could be getting to him

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lightning should just rest guys tbh

dim kettle
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No, it's just the Lightning play don't give a shit hockey for the last months.

celest zephyr
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hopefully they continue in the playoffs

dim kettle
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If last year says anything, that's far from the truth. CarrotSmug

celest zephyr
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man if only this team could beat the trash in the league consistently

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could be first in the division and then they'd play the caps

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praying for the panthers to fall apart

dim kettle
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The seeding in the playoffs in the east doesn't matter. No team besides Boston is smoke and mirrors.

celest zephyr
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washington looked old and slow when the leafs played them

dim kettle
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The Caps have Ovi. Playoffs are a different beast for every team.

celest zephyr
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if they don't get in their own way, decent chance the leafs run circles around the caps

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sure but an aging core that's only declining isn't a bad option to face

dim kettle
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I wouldn't sleep on the Caps though.

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Boston on the other hand. Yeah, have fun being jobbed by the Canes.

celest zephyr
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ain't sleeping on anyone in the east

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its just better and worse options

dim kettle
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I mean yesterday... But really, the Panthers jobbed the Lightning the last few months last year and the Bolts took their asses to the back and stabbed them hard in the first round.

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Like I said though, the only team I laugh at in the playoffs in the East is Boston; because they're not as good as their record says they are.

celest zephyr
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i'd want to face them but fighting them is probably the worst way for the leafs to start any potential run

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getting guys hurt and suspended is an easy path to being fodder in the next round if they even make it there

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worst case, beat up and battered and having to serve suspensions next season and losing to boston again

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the one saving grace is boston only really lashes out when they are losing big time so the leafs would have to be winning at some point for boston to panic

dim kettle
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Let's just say Boston is very lucky the rest of the East 9th seed down completely self destructed.

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Can't say I feel bad for a team like the Isles though. They've had a few years to fix their scoring problems and sat there and traded and signed a bunch of NJ Devil players.

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Like, if you're an Islander fan, what the fuck did you think was really gonna happen inevitably?

celest zephyr
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oh yeah and possibly washington also

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they can turn in on in the playoffs sure, but they'd have to well make it there

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feel more bad for getting hard screwed by their stadium not being done in time

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even if it was a team choice, the players and coaching staff and front office didn't do anything to cause it

dim kettle
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Yeah, they had that 13 straight away schedule to start the season. But you looked at their PP in the ECF both years and you just knew the ship was gonna sink inevitability unless Lou actually did anything. And that move was Zach Parise because they're stupid.

robust grotto
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I’m late as fuck this whole convo - I’m sorta sleeping on the Caps only bc I don’t have much faith in Samsonov and I feel their roster is underperforming a bit when it comes to team scoring. Good team though, you’re right about them being playoff ready. Also, TOTALLY agree on NYI. They’re a playoff team had it not been for that road trip to start, plus not winning at home until like 4-5 games

dim kettle
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I can't get 100% behind the road trip excuse. The team has no offense. If anything, the road trip accelerated the inevitable.

robust grotto
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I get you

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But we can at least agree it didn’t help them

dim kettle
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They really need a star Wing or Centre so badly.

robust grotto
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And yes, they need to find another dominant forward or two. Ideally someone they can play WITHOUT Barzal, this way they make opposing coach’s pick their battles on which d pairing to send out against who

dim kettle
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It's a shame too because I think people like Josh Bailly are underrated but he can't carry a line. And Barzal, he's overrated, sorry, he's a great skater and good playmaker but really am tired of the NHL media treating him like he's so much better.

dim kettle
smoky fable
simple seal
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Vladdy is Cole's daddy

rustic mountain
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Vladdy hit 3 hrs off Cole

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Same night btw

dim kettle
rustic mountain
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Keep paying him New York

dim kettle
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Cole is nothing without his spider tack.

robust grotto
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Yankees fans got on Mets fans soooo hard once they signed Cole, dissing on deGrom saying he’s the second best pitcher in the city. Cole wouldn’t have even been the third best on the Mets today …

dim kettle
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And then Cole faced the Rays and dinger after dinger.

robust grotto
dim kettle
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Honestly I love being able to laugh at the Yanks failures the last 13 years. Especially after dealing with being a Devil Rays fan being told how we were the doormat of the AL East and you could never be better than the mighty Yankees.

robust grotto
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Hahaha word, honestly that’s one of the beauties of sports fandom. You go through to tough times and then one day the roles are reversed

dim kettle
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God, I have to imagine if the Mets win multiple WS titles this decade and the Yanks can't even get passed the divisional round. The salt mines in the Bronx would be huge.

rustic mountain
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It would be amazing to see the Yankees suck for a while

dim kettle
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Still one of the best moments I saw was Game 6 of the 2019 ALCS and Altuve hits the walkoff to go to the WS. And my older brother you can see from his face has just died inside not saying anything. So glorious.

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I wish I took a picture of it. FujiKEK

rustic mountain
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Idk if I want the Yankees to lose more or the Astros tbh

dim kettle
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Honestly it's neutral. It's not like the Yanks didn't cheat also.

rustic mountain
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Pretty much everyone does

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The thing that got me was how the Astros treated it

royal swallow
rustic mountain
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Some were kinda dicks about it

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And I just. Didn't understand that stance

dim kettle
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The Astros got away with it. Honestly, IDK how you're suppose to act ashamed when you got your prize and got away with it basically. Like, yes, they were dicks about it and game 5 of the 2017 WS is now ruined. But, it is what it is. My team was also a victim of their cheating but you can only have a hate boner for that for so long. At least for me.

robust grotto
celest zephyr
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Lit

proud coyote
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lol wtf

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Why?

celest zephyr
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Last year it was twitter handles

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It’s a thing

smoky fable
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What the

robust grotto
dim kettle
robust grotto
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Hope you can forgive me 😂

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“ The QR codes – which are two-dimensional barcodes that contain information about the item to which it is attached – can be scanned with a smartphone and will link to the player’s bio on UCF’s official website. “

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It’s only for spring game, but totally not confusing if 2 players have the same last name

dim kettle
# robust grotto Can’t lie ( plus there’s evidence in this very chat ) but I was rooting for Hous...

They cheated, no doubt about it. The sign stealing was very dirty, But there's also context for almost everything. The sign stealing has proven to only be done at home games. And if we consider that, the Dodgers sure did a shitty job blowing a lead in the 9th to win game 2 at home and then laying an egg in game 7. And then the Rays win both games at the Trop against them but Glasnow was tipping his pitching alone and the Rays bats were quiet.

smoky fable
robust grotto
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Definitely, I can’t debate any of that

dim kettle
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Ultimately though, they did have an advantage. Honestly, I don't think enough people talk about how OP sign stealing can be when stealing bases.

celest zephyr
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or at the very least the leafs couldn't find better options

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they have gio and boosh. signing at least one of them would be good and honestly if the leafs can i'd gladly have both. they could try a guy like rubins out more in the regular season

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and then sign another d man or trade for one - probably 2 and then nurture rubins or another prospect if gio doesn't re-sign

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rielly, brodie, boosh, lili, sandin and holl are a sufficent top 6

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leafs have to re-sign lili and sandin, engvall, ,mihkeyev, campbell. i really can't see the leafs not getting rid of at least one of kerfoot, muzzin and mrazek

robust grotto
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How’s Boosh been ?

celest zephyr
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good. adds a netfront presence that the leafs sorely need. i'd get another guy who also can do that and then change the coaching staff or at least the scheme to focus more heavily there.

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muzzin is 5.6 mill yeah he's an anchor he's gone

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the leafs are in a bad spot so many rfas/ufas

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this team is going to be very different next season in all likelihood

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and the years to come

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they have to dump off big cap hits that aren't producing to be able to sign either their current guys and guys to replace them

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the bare mininum is fielding a similar quality roster next year. that ain't going to cut in the arms race that it is the nhl east

dim kettle
celest zephyr
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Knies definitely doesn't play for the leafs

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I don't see why he'd turn down millions of dollars when he'd might not get the chance to be with the leafs again if he well wants to be there

celest zephyr
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disgusting

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also why do that when the guy has been a professional for years

versed forge
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That’s sad

celest zephyr
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On brand

dim kettle
celest zephyr
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i mean the isles suck right now lol

dim kettle
celest zephyr
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even if easy wins existed in the nhl they wouldn't have any

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tbh the isles might have fumbled the bag

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getting a mid teens pick doesn't really do that much for them

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complete crap shoot there

dim kettle
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I mean, Kucherov and Palat were selected with 2nd round picks. What's more important when it comes to NHL drafts is the environment to develop players. Thank god they're passed the days of Garth Snow.

celest zephyr
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yeah definitely

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why good players going to garbage teams always sucks

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so often talent gets wasted

dim kettle
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God, looking at the 1st round picks Garth Snow made as GM will make you cringe.

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Ryan Strome, Griffin Reinhart, Michael Dal Colle, Josh Ho Sang,

robust grotto
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Ducharme is a criminal for this.

robust grotto
# celest zephyr complete crap shoot there

No kidding. The reality is that there’s just so many factors that come with drafting, drafting the top guy isn’t enough some times. Hard to name more teams that are worse at developing high end forwards than NYR, for example

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Alexis Lafreniere’s 46 points in his first 2 seasons ranks the lowest of ALL 1st overall picks ( so that’s including defense ) since 1996

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And it’s because of our team. He’s not a first or second line player for us

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He gets 0 power play time because we play the 1st unit legit 1:45 of each PP

proud coyote
smoky fable
dim kettle
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They really want me to watch the Rays and White Sox on Apple TV+. I hate that the MLB decided this would grow the league. smh

proud coyote
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imagine how bad it would be if we signed him and he got injured

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those same irrational people

smoky fable
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Oh that would be an awful reaction probably

simple seal
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Really missing Wendle already

dim kettle
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Wendle playing really good rn in Miami

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But I hate the MLB for making me miss a Dylan Cease start just because they want games on Apple TV+.

honest umbra
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why are dodgers playing on apple tv

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for robinson day

dim kettle
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Because the MLB is stupid!

smoky fable
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Seems par the course

proud coyote
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man

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Rodon's stuff is ridiculous

dim kettle
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I miss Rodon. BepoSad

proud coyote
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we matt cain'd him in game one

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dude struck 12 out in 5 innings

dim kettle
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Did that for the South Side a lot last year. Thanks for reminding me.

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Would be nice to have rn with all the injuries in the pitching rn

proud coyote
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how long is Lynn out for?

dim kettle
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La Russa said he's been doing better than the training staff expected. I'd say he'll be back in a month.

honest umbra
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what happened to la russa?

dim kettle
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No, no. this is about Lance Lynn

honest umbra
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i see

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what happened to him after his elite year?

dim kettle
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Got a knee injury before the season.

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Are the Phillies really losing to the Marlins 7-0 rn smh

honest umbra
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ofc they are

versed forge
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Hawks comeback 👀

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Whoa

dim kettle
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Someone please free Trout and Ohtani from this hell!

smoky fable
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Young on the big, or get an open guy open

smoky fable
dim kettle
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No way in hell the Angels are gonna be good with Moreno as owner, period.

smoky fable
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Nope.

dim kettle
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Sox win. Again, fuck you, MLB. I missed a good game.

rustic mountain
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Romano two outs from another save

versed forge
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Trae too cold

smoky fable
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Cavs just can’t stop Trae

smoky fable
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Died by the switch

versed forge
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What a 4th quarter

smoky fable
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Bad turnover there

dim kettle
rustic mountain
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No problem it seemed and Vladdy got another homer

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Chapman been getting a good amount of walks this year already, had two more against the A's

dim kettle
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Making up for last night.

rustic mountain
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Yeah that sucked but

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Baseball has a long season

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Getting hung up on one Chapman gaffe is like being angry for one tiny grain of sand in your shoe right now

dim kettle
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I always look at it as a month to month bases.

rustic mountain
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Better way of doing it

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How did the yankees do

dim kettle
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It was tie the last time I saw

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Looks like the bottom of the 9th rn

rustic mountain
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Against the O's

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Come on birds

dim kettle
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The Yanks can never figure out the O's

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You wonder why the Rays won the AL East. They were the only team that could actually beat the O's consistently.

rustic mountain
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Which is so weird considering how bad the O's are

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It feels sucky because the Orioles have Camden fucking yards

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And orange and black is a slick color combo. Too bad about the logo being dog shit

smoky fable
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Hawks advance

dim kettle
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Yeah, that's one thing I don't get about the O's. They put so much effort into the ballpark but the roster is treated like it's an afterthought.

rustic mountain
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Could be worse

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Could be the A's

dim kettle
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The A's are trying their hardest to move to Vegas.

rustic mountain
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When both are treated like dog shit

versed forge
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Hawks get the playoff spot

dim kettle
rustic mountain
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Tbh just move em to Vegas

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It would love Oakland with what

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Pretty much nothing?

dim kettle
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Like, the Trop is a prison. But the that stadium got so fucked up since the late 90s

rustic mountain
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It's a shame but

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I kinda want them to move out of Oakland and continue to suck

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Purely because fuck moneyball lmao

dim kettle
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Hey, moneyball helped the Rays win too. lol

rustic mountain
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Lmaoo

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Yeh tru

dim kettle
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You know what's hurts though is the Tampa/St Pete is like the 13th biggest market in the US and Stu treats them like they're KC.

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The Rays could spend more money than they could rn and Stu is too much of cheap ass

smoky fable
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Looks like Suns Pelicans first round

smoky fable
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And they came back

celest zephyr
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Choke job

honest umbra
versed forge
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Whoa back to back choke lmao

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Pelicans get the playoff spot

honest umbra
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so clippers dont make playoffs eh?

versed forge
#

Nope

honest umbra
#

heh

silk notch
#

How do they make all these comebacks just to blow them

versed forge
#

Pelicans haven’t made playoffs in 4 years

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No clue

#

To be fair clippers didn’t have paul george

honest umbra
#

all moot points

#

suns gonna wipe em

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4-0 or 4-1

#

what it matter

versed forge
#

Yessir

#

Suns to the finals

silk notch
#

Pelicans can be a a pretty good team with zion back next year

versed forge
#

For sure

honest umbra
#

yea thats a pretty big if

#

dudes fat

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and again, their core isnt young or anything

#

idk where this narrative coming from

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cj didnt do nothing with lillard, BI is always gonna be b tier, valuncinas old

silk notch
#

Nobody said they would be contending for a championship but them being a good team isnt farfetched

honest umbra
#

they'll be in the same stretch of being a 7th to 11th seed like every year

#

they can be more good or less medicore than previous year

#

but it doesnt change much lol

#

their best chance was AD-Boogie-Randle

silk notch
#

Idk having zion and CJ for a full season will make him a good amount better than this season

#

Assuming zion is healthy

honest umbra
#

hes played 75 games in 3 years

#

at this point, assuming zion will be unhealthy is more common

celest zephyr
#

Aye man Zion is about the same as Embiid at that time right?

#

Just a little stockier obviously

#

There’s time to make a turnaround

#

And now he has one of the coolest guys in the league as a mentor

honest umbra
#

dudes feuding with his own team

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he aint built like embiid

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the same "im not healthy but team thinks im healthy" jargon being thrown around

#

zion injury are almost self inflicted to an extent, dude hasnt adapted to what the league needs of him

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hes gotten bigger if anything

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where as embiid been changed his game

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zion was on every hoop youtube dunking channel at 13 with the hype, embiid first picked up a bball at 13

#

they dont got the same struggles or mentality

celest zephyr
#

Lol come on now

honest umbra
#

this vids crazy btw

#

i still remember the lamb GWs

celest zephyr
honest umbra
#

dont call it mentality

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call it nothing

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but he didnt play a single game this year

celest zephyr
#

Lol it sounds so fake I don’t know these people

#

I don’t like questioning player injuries

#

It’s one thing to criticize players like Russ for playing bad but critiquing players for not playing enough games due to injury ain’t it (like I didn’t see IT throw away his career bc of that)

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Especially when the dudes ain’t got like no character concerns or nothing Zion is a good dude by all accounts lol

honest umbra
#

i aint hating on his character

#

ben simmons did the same thing

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but nothing he has done in his first 3 years convince me he in this for the long run

celest zephyr
#

It’s probably hard for him to get his body right

honest umbra
#

sure, he has a very unique body type

#

there was always concerns about that coming into the NBA

celest zephyr
#

Most tall dudes aren’t big boys like him

honest umbra
#

and dunking 360s

celest zephyr
#

Yeah

honest umbra
#

but he knew that since he was young

#

and still hasnt really adapted his game imo

#

jokic is a BIGGG man

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and extremely talented

celest zephyr
#

Jokic is nowhere near Zion in terms of movement

#

It’s not the same thing

honest umbra
#

but got exposed one year in the playoffs because he just wasnt fast enough to stay on the court

celest zephyr
#

That’s like comparing Zion and Randolph

honest umbra
#

or rather, endurance

#

so he adapted his body

#

im not comparing their situations directly

#

rather their willingness to adapt their game type to fit the current NBA

celest zephyr
#

The thing is

#

Zion still growing and is 21

#

It’s probably much harder for him to control that weight man

honest umbra
#

its 2022 lol, he has the access to the most advanced physio trainers and food keepers in the history of the game

#

i understand its hard for him since hes young

#

but its not unavailable

celest zephyr
#

Like he’s still gonna be hungry like a big guy

#

He’s still gonna eat 😂😂

honest umbra
#

ironic this just happened

dim kettle
#

With people like Zion. Kinda proves my point that some of these young players are coming into the NBA too soon. Whether the player likes it or not

celest zephyr
#

Yeah but the alternative sucks

silk notch
#

Zion is still an amazing player he just needs to not be fat which honestly ain't even that hard

celest zephyr
#

I’d rather a young guy be able to get a big payday for their themselves and their family than have to waste time playing with plumbers

celest zephyr
#

It’s very hard for guys of those dimensions to get built

silk notch
#

For an nba player who has access to the best resources it wont be that hard he just has to be consistent

celest zephyr
#

I know that’s how it sounds but trust me it’s not that simple lol

dim kettle
honest umbra
#

i respect the young players for grabbing the bag

celest zephyr
#

Lol I want those guys make money

honest umbra
#

and honestly, some of them translate real fast

celest zephyr
#

That’s it honestly

honest umbra
#

most of these dudes starting balling at 5

#

all the way to 1st year of college

#

its not like they didnt work for it

#

im glad they cash out

celest zephyr
#

Also: you ain’t gotta defend the NBA they’ll be okay

#

Wild how you named MJ and Shaq… two GOATs 💀

dim kettle
celest zephyr
#

So we’re only looking at star players? Not comparing role players?

dim kettle
#

MJ, Shaq, Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing, Tim Duncan, I can go on. The fact of the matter is these were top 5 draft picks.

#

And they made impacts right away

celest zephyr
#

You keep naming GOATs lol

dim kettle
#

You notice a trend though?

celest zephyr
#

No there is no trend

#

You can select them because they already had successful careers

#

You won’t remember the role players

honest umbra
#

i mean

#

ur both partially right

celest zephyr
#

I can easily go through every year and pick the best players

honest umbra
#

staying in college longer than 1 year did have some sort of a beneficial effect

#

on all those players

celest zephyr
#

I don’t even know if that’s true. I’m not sure there’s any way to tell because College basketball is such a low tier of the sport I’m not sure it really helps guys develop

#

Like college play REALLY sucks

honest umbra
#

it aint about the fundamentals, most of these players are good enough

#

its other things at a higher level that they learn about

#

with coaches like mike k and etc who are constantly sending players to the nba

#

thats an amazing resource

#

plus u gotta remember the difference between 18 to 22

#

is INSANE

#

like ur not even a nba player and u learn so much more in those years

#

imagine what kinda knowledge u would absorb as a potential NBA players

#

but the other argument is u potentially risk ur own career

celest zephyr
#

What are they learning from those basic sets? Have you watched the plays they run bruh

honest umbra
#

like if MPJ went straight from HS to NBA

celest zephyr
honest umbra
#

he would be 1st pick

#

but he was 14th becuz of injury

#

and lost a bag

#

(he eventually got it) but still

celest zephyr
#

Feeding your family comes before learning to play basketball to entertain people who don’t even know you lol

honest umbra
#

i agree, if it was me, idgaf i get the bag and secure it

celest zephyr
#

MPJ was in a dangerous situation fr I remember that

honest umbra
#

just saying siren aint wrong

celest zephyr
#

I was worried for him

honest umbra
#

extra years do help

#

it aint all about the basketball, its just valuable experience on so many fronts

#

i would LOVE to see a potential lottery pick play out an extra year

celest zephyr
#

I don’t know if they help that much anymore tho man. College play is not great they aren’t doing any advanced basketball in college. It’s like being stuck in remedial courses

honest umbra
#

like a conesus top 5

#

and they stay in the NCAA

celest zephyr
#

That would be very dumb

honest umbra
#

that would have some ripple effect depending on the result

#

i think HS to NBA though

#

is very very very risky

#

again i will side with players, esp young players over a corportation any day

celest zephyr
#

Lol I’d hate to see guys giving their all to people who don’t even care about them for no money for longer than they have to

honest umbra
#

but theres gonna be so many busts

celest zephyr
#

It’s dumb

honest umbra
#

and players unprepared

#

like u can name me kobe, lebron, KG

#

but those are exceptions

#

not the rule

celest zephyr
#

Lol there were barely ever any guys like that man

#

That happened like once ever so often

#

It was not even a common thing

#

And my thing is the NBA isn’t nearly bad enough for me to care about guys not playing for a long time in college. I want to see them all get paid lol

dim kettle
# honest umbra but he was 14th becuz of injury

I will say this. If you're a rookie I don't care where you're drafted in the 1st round in any sport, you're playing for that second contract after the rookie one. So this whole argument about not being paid right away is meh.

celest zephyr
#

There’s a big difference lol

#

MASSIVE difference

honest umbra
#

10 mill is life changing

#

again all perspective

#

if u come from nothing

#

u grab the first bag

#

but if u like lamelo or MPJ, the first bag aint that of a neccessity

celest zephyr
#

The minimum salary is good but not fantastic. Some people fall to the minimum which is like 900k something

#

Good but like if you’re a fringe NBA player you won’t even spend that long in the league

#

So you gotta stretch that out

honest umbra
#

if ur making 900k

#

ur most likely a late 1st

#

or 2nd round pick anyways

#

in which case

#

most of them DO spend 2-3 years in the NCAA

#

so that argument seems a bit meh

#

we talking mostly lottery here

celest zephyr
#

Hmm I guess

#

I just know from personal anecdotes that people have fallen hard in the draft by staying more years

#

Timing is really important

honest umbra
#

im glad dame got drafted 6th from weber state and did well

#

that shiz was good

celest zephyr
#

He beat every odd lol

honest umbra
#

ye but who knows if he comes into the league at 21 and starts putting up those shots, he don’t have the same impact

#

all about timing

#

he landed on a team with Aldridge batum matthews etc instead of a more dog shit team

#

and it helped him

celest zephyr
#

I don’t feel right saying that about his situation lol

#

U gotta pick someone else

honest umbra
#

Not the best example but kuz was picked 27th and has done well too imo

#

I’m naming current players too

#

Don’t wanna go into the history archives

#

jimmy butler is an amazing one

#

How did clippers outscore pels by 20 in the 3rd and be out scored by 12 in the 4th

dim kettle
#

You have these 19, 20 year old kids coming into the league, a lot of them are unequip to deal with the challenges of being a professional athlete with all that money being thrown at them, the privileges that come with it. And we're always going into the draft every year and it's all about projection and potential because the fact of the matter is, their games just aren't ready yet for the NBA. Like, yes, even if these players get to be star players they feel like they're not the type of stars like they used to be in previous years.

#

And I think that has led to the lack of emphasis on building teams through the draft and developing talent.

honest umbra
#

Siren did u see how the yanks orioles game ended today?

#

Yanks walked in the winner bottom of the 11th lol

dim kettle
#

The Yanks can never beat the O's. So fucking weird.

honest umbra
#

Well they can’t score more than one run in 11th innings

#

Their offense has gotta do something

dim kettle
#

The fact that Yanks can get only one run off the O's bullpen. That's a big L

#

It's like only scoring 13 points off the Falcons. It just never happens.

honest umbra
#

Also Maddon walking Seager with bases loaded while down a run and still winning the game

#

Baseball is crazy

dim kettle
#

It's not surprising after blowing a 7-0 lead to the Jays the first damn game of the season.

#

I can already tell the Rangers will have a great hitting core and horrible pitching. Pretty much sounds like Ranger baseball to me.

dim kettle
honest umbra
#

Also broke the cubs 100+ year curse

#

Man is an enigma

#

Yet his best stint was still prob the rays?

dim kettle
#

It's hard to say because both teams were in the same situation when he was hired. The only difference is he won a WS with one of them.

honest umbra
#

Well if he does anything with this angels team with moreno as owner, he deserves more praise

dim kettle
#

They drafted nothing but pitchers last year. Honestly, I think Trout and Ohtani will steal his thunder if the Angels somehow win more than 80 games in the future.

buoyant jungle
broken ledge
#

Match day boys LETSBUGGINGGO

#

We NEED to beat City in this

short spindle
#

Oh Boy Arsenal play today 😀

#

Can't wait to see Xhaka LB again

final plaza
#

@sweet smelt that's a difficult target for MI

sweet smelt
#

Mi is not winning

#

5 straight losses

#

And it's 10 teams this time

final plaza
#

Yeah

sweet smelt
#

Don't see a comeback

final plaza
#

SRH and CSK had recovered from such bad ones too

#

It was in 2020 I think KatakuriThink not sure

sweet smelt
final plaza
#

Yeah that one too

#

200 is a difficult target for them this time given their team and how bad their previous games have been

sweet smelt
#

Pollard's form too......

final plaza
#

Yeah

sweet smelt
#

If only had they bought hardik pandaya instead of pollard

final plaza
#

Their whole lineup feels weird

#

Suryakumar is coming at 3 or smth

sweet smelt
#

That's normal tho , like surya plays at 3 or 4 normally

final plaza
#

De Kock isnt there

sweet smelt
#

Yeah de kock

final plaza
sweet smelt
#

I see , yeah that was like temporary thing

#

Usually surya bats at 3 or 4 only

final plaza
#

Ah. Yeah I might be forgetting other instances. Never had to care for Mumbai much as every match felt easy victory for them before

sweet smelt
#

Look at them now

#

How the mighty have fallen

final plaza
#

I don't even remember any squad of this season properly

#

💀

#

Have to check cricbuzz all the time

sweet smelt
#

Csk and Mi , the best teams of IPL are having their worst campaign

final plaza
#

CSk had that in 2020

#

Shane Watson YamatoAngry

sweet smelt
#

Oh yeah lmfao

final plaza
#

Then Gaikwad came near the end of that season and they were saved

#

well not saved

#

But yeah lol

sweet smelt
#

Gaikwad is in which team?

#

This season

final plaza
#

CSK still

#

Paddikal is in different team. Was a good opener for RCB in thr previous season

sweet smelt
#

Ah yeah I remember

#

He was doing pretty well

#

Same with venkatesh iyer for kkr

final plaza
#

RCB feels the most odd. Chahal and ABD

final plaza
#

Loved his game on last season's semi final (I think that was then)

sweet smelt
short spindle
#

God is good

#

Odegaard captain

final plaza
#

@sweet smelt you watching 👀

#

Unadkat KizaruPog

short spindle
#

Spurs lost to Brighton

sweet smelt
#

No chance

burnt cedar
#

Why is Liverpool city taking place during the 3pm kos

magic yarrow
#

Playoffs today

robust grotto
short spindle
#

Forster is a decent gk

burnt cedar
broken ledge
#

Let’s go boys

dim ledge
#

Let's get this bread

short spindle
#

Lots of seagulls on the stadium

#

Cedric tf was that

#

Cedric again omg

#

Stop this man from taking free kicks

dim ledge
#

OH BABY

#

IBOUUUUUUU

broken ledge
#

KONATEEEEE

#

YOU BEAUTIFUL MAN

lethal blaze
#

Konate

#

This man

#

beautiful man LETSGOOOO

burnt cedar
#

Most attacking done this game

dim ledge
#

3 in 3 for ibou

short spindle
#

I PRAY that Southampton don't get a free kick

lethal blaze
dim kettle
lethal blaze
#

Omfg

#

OMDF

#

Omfg

#

HOLY SHIT

dim ledge
#

SADIOOOOOOOOOOOO

broken ledge
#

MANNEREE

#

MANEEEE

#

BEAUTIFUL

short spindle
#

Can't put up with this anymore

broken ledge
#

Steffen took way too long on the ball lmao

lethal blaze
#

Kek

broken ledge
#

Lool

celest zephyr
#

AVERAGE

#

AMERICAN

#

FOOTBALL

#

PLAYER

#

Least rubbish American hyped player

lethal blaze
#

Keita and thiago are playing good rn

short spindle
#

I hate the fact that this club controls my mood

celest zephyr
lethal blaze
celest zephyr
#

the Liverpool fans just completely fill the stadium

#

Reminds me how it felt like when I was at the Camp Nou on Thursday

#

first penalty and the Frankfurt fans already overwhelmed the Barça crowd

short spindle
#

Odegaard is invisible

broken ledge
#

Every time I see Diaz play I just smile

dim ledge
burnt cedar
short spindle
#

We need to turn this around otherwise the hopes for top 4 are over

burnt cedar
#

Life’s improved since then

burnt cedar
celest zephyr
#

Arsenal losing rn(?)

burnt cedar
#

Yeah

#

1-0

broken ledge
#

To Southampton?

celest zephyr
#

Fucked bru

broken ledge
#

Lol

dim ledge
#

Diaz is disgusting lmao

celest zephyr
#

Chances to top 4 and now racing back to where they were

broken ledge
#

Diaz is so good

#

Ripping players

burnt cedar
#

Tomiyasu has literally died

celest zephyr
#

I stopped caring about Vissel Kobe once we started spending so much on washed old players

burnt cedar
#

Haven’t seen him for over 3 months now

celest zephyr
#

Isn’t he injured(?)

short spindle
#

He's coming back after this game

celest zephyr
#

or has he come back

#

Lmao

burnt cedar
#

Hamstring injury thats lasted this long

short spindle
#

He was rushed against Liverpool and the rest is history

burnt cedar
#

I can’t take Cedric anymore

celest zephyr
#

We fucked if Tomoyasu is done for the World Cup

#

Literal lifeline

burnt cedar
celest zephyr
#

probably organs sold

short spindle
#

Anyone who says that Cedric is a decent backup needs to get their eyes checked

burnt cedar
#

Portugal have all these elite fullbacks and we ended up with Tavares and Cedric

lethal blaze
celest zephyr
#

Holy shit another old firm derby tomorrow

#

I swear there was an old firm once every week or my memory is shit

short spindle
#

Celtic are going to win

celest zephyr
#

yeah Kyogo is back

short spindle
#

Rangers is nothing without Morelos

celest zephyr
short spindle
#

Giokum or sum is injured

celest zephyr
#

Mf etf

#

how long is my mans gone

#

anyways Hatate an Daizen is enough

burnt cedar
restive sundial
#

🤣 🤣

celest zephyr
#

Those two can literally win the UCL for Celtic and won’t get into the Japanese NT

short spindle
#

We haven't lost to Southampton in like 5 years

burnt cedar
celest zephyr
#

because our manager is a conservative one and only chooses players he has trained with and are “experienced”

restive sundial
#

Spurs lost as well
Of course we ain't gonna capitalize
Just arsenal things

burnt cedar
#

United are back in the top 4 race

celest zephyr
#

Someone United will make Top 4

burnt cedar
#

Honestly see United doing it

celest zephyr
#

and Arsenal will end up at 6th

burnt cedar
#

Too much experience

celest zephyr
#

if Ham does it

burnt cedar
celest zephyr
#

Yall fucked as a club

#

but don’t worry guys

#

My clubs sitting at the bottom

#

with Iniesta

short spindle
#

I will start to question the managment if we fail to get top 4

burnt cedar
short spindle
#

West Ham might win major trophy before us

burnt cedar
#

And Mikel will get a new contract

restive sundial
celest zephyr
#

my clubs literally expensive old players and vibes

burnt cedar
#

Who else is there

#

Is vermaelen still there

short spindle
#

He retired

celest zephyr
#

Iniesta, Hotaru, Sakai, Muto, Oosako

burnt cedar
#

Muto from Newcastle?

celest zephyr
#

bojan too

#

Yes

burnt cedar
#

I liked Sakai

celest zephyr
#

Can’t forget Makino and Samper

#

We literally have the largest payroll in J League combining the 2nd - 5th

#

Iniesta’s yearly wage is larger than 3peat Kawasaki Frontale

restive sundial
#

Bojan kric?

#

The Stoke City and barca dude

celest zephyr
#

Yes

#

Literally here for vibes

restive sundial
#

I actually liked that stoke team back then lol
They had some nice players

celest zephyr
#

the only player we acquired who isn’t for vibes is Iniesta and Samper

#

they actually perform

#

But everyone is so reliant on them lol

restive sundial
#

yikes

celest zephyr
#

and our managers failed to adapt and even fix that issue but keeps building around an aged 36 year old and a 27 year old with glass hamstrings and thighs

restive sundial
#

Wtf

celest zephyr
#

Iniesta’s great but he’s very very limited

#

his age really caught up

restive sundial
#

They should spend that moolah on a decent manager

celest zephyr
#

last decent manager we had we sacked because we lost three in a row and Vissel fans being reactive as fuck

#

When he was the guy who won us two trophies which we only ever won in our history

restive sundial
#

Football in a nutshell nowadays

#

Toxic af fans

celest zephyr
#

his football was great, had proper signings, just a poor run because players were injured and not fit

short spindle
#

Need Pepe super sub asap

celest zephyr
#

then boom we have a month of games against the most difficult teams then mf gets sacked for losing them

#

We deserve this

restive sundial
#

He's back from illness or whatever the fuck it was?

celest zephyr
#

Let’s go to J2

broken ledge
#

Diaz

#

Baller ong

celest zephyr
#

We have four ACL games in the next two weeks

#

if we manage to fuck it up, J2 here we go

#

DIAZ is fucking disgusting

#

I can watch him for days

sweet tree
#

spurs lost last few mins huh

#

dang liverpool up 2 to city

restive sundial
#

Why do we keep spamming crosses in the box man
It's not like we have penaldo in there

restive sundial
#

Nice

sweet tree
#

yuh

dim ledge
#

Such a foul

#

....

#

Umm

#

Guys....

#

........

short spindle
#

Can't even be bothered to laugh at United

#

3-0 wow

dim ledge
#

WHAT A GOAL SADIO

#

I LOVE U

celest zephyr
#

HAHAHA

#

2-2

broken ledge
#

MANEEE

#

SENEGALESE BOIIII

sweet tree
#

no way

broken ledge
#

Such a good strike

celest zephyr
#

United fans rn: copium copium noo we purposely concede 2 for Ronaldo to score the winning hattrick

broken ledge
#

Idk wtf United are on rn lool

celest zephyr
#

I’m ready to eat my words

sweet tree
#

just saw that Ederson derp

#

dkm

celest zephyr
#

De Gea saving these nuts

broken ledge
#

Beautiful first half from pool

sweet tree
#

oh that's Zack Steffen

broken ledge
#

The guy took too long on the ball damn

#

Long day for him

short spindle
celest zephyr
#

How tf Arsenal managing to lose rn and fucking United is incapable of capitalizing

#

Tottenham losing 1-0 to give Arsenal a chance just to be losing 1-0 rn and United has a chance to capitalize to currently bottle a 2-0 lead at home to 2-2

sweet tree
#

the bottle of top 4

celest zephyr
#

Now west ham managing UCL is not even a dream

broken ledge
#

What’s going on today AkainuLUL

celest zephyr
#

Literal reality

broken ledge
#

Arsenal being arsenal

#

Can’t win games

short spindle
#

I thought we were getting the 3rd place after Chelsea lost to Brentford

celest zephyr
#

MAGUIRE IS A FUCKING BELLEND HAHAHAHA

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he fucking fell down in a header and kicked Pogba in the head

robust grotto
celest zephyr
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this guy manages to be dumber every minute

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Winning Europa is our only real shot at being in UCL

celest zephyr
robust grotto
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we still have to play Arsenal, Chelsea, and City

celest zephyr
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Though Frankfurt will be a tough nut to crack

short spindle
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We aren't even that good lmao

broken ledge
short spindle
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This could be our 3rd loss in a row

sweet tree
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it's looking like 18/19 art

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These guys lost 6-0 last week

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top 4 in your hands

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and yall bottled it

robust grotto
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Art, I’ve only seen 1 win against Arsenal since I’ve been watching the last 7-8 years. Last year we were up 3-0 and you guys managed to draw 3-3

broken ledge
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Ayo I’m dying 🤣🤣

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Maguire

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God

sweet tree
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who knows tho

robust grotto
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Arsenal have WH number

celest zephyr
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Maguire is special

short spindle
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Triffic little player

broken ledge
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How much was maguire again?

robust grotto
broken ledge
celest zephyr
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We are literally battling who’s worse current Lenglet and Maguire

celest zephyr
short spindle
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80

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Nvm

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87mil€

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We got fat cash for him

dim ledge
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Bro lmao

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Diaz is disgusting

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They have to foul him

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Every time he has the ball

broken ledge
celest zephyr
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I kept saying Maguire is good thanks to Soyuncu sucking off his mistakes

dim ledge
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Dude has been fouled 4 times now

broken ledge
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He played it smart against cancello

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mfs kept thinking he was a world class player because he scored a header and is a fridge

broken ledge
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Mane is just so good

robust grotto
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Liverpool’s recruitment is just so good

broken ledge
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My god I swear 9/10 we recruit such talented players

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And they don’t even come at that much of a high price

celest zephyr
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And the high prices have all been worth their value

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Or even more

broken ledge
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Facts

robust grotto
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VVD and Alisson were sorta high but it’s easy to justify in their position, basically they didn’t over pay

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Yeah exactly

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Good memories people were in a cesspool of how Maguire’s 87mil was justified considering Djik and look now

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One guy has a UCL and Prem, pocketed enough players, while the other is pocketing his own teammates from scoring