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dim ledge
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tbh more players shouldve gotten BDR in those years than Messi/cr7 so i agree

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yeah i remember Papiss Cisee

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fucked my prem fantasy that year

dim ledge
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uh yes

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if you dont think Manuel Neuer deserved it in 2014 over either of them

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idk what to tell you

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well uh

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2015? i guess?

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for the 2014 year

fickle jolt
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Messi and cr7 dominated the awards for a solid decade only in 2018 were modric deserved it more than them

dim ledge
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nah

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Neuer deserved it

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plain and simple

fickle jolt
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Idk what to tell you he didnt win🧎‍♂️

celest zephyr
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Was that the year he won CL and WC?

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He deserves ballon d’or then

silk notch
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Well it was basically who ever won the thr midt that year between messi and ronaldo that won the it

dim ledge
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in that final against BvB

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then yes won WC in 2014

celest zephyr
honest umbra
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2015

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messi won a treble

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he deserved his lol

fickle jolt
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Gotze broo 2014 oh my god

honest umbra
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MSN went insane

dim ledge
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yeah in 2015 for sure

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just sayin

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Neuer deserved his in the year he won the WC

honest umbra
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2014

dim ledge
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mhm

honest umbra
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aka ronaldo year

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where he went insane

fickle jolt
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My goat

dim ledge
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didnt win a Wc though

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🤷

sweet tree
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ronaldo deserved his that year

dim ledge
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disagree

sweet tree
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best ucl campaign statically tbf

fickle jolt
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Christian ronald

honest umbra
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ronaldo def deserved 13 and 14 i think

dim ledge
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Neuer went from winning the UCl in 13 then winning the WC in 14

sweet tree
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what was 2013

fickle jolt
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Noodle hair ronaldo > all version of ronaldo

honest umbra
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neuer while great had a good defense in front of him

dim ledge
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in the span of a single year

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winning UCL and WC

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and not getting the award

honest umbra
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ya but the thing

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is

sweet tree
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I will say

honest umbra
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its two diff years

fickle jolt
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In the ballondor the previous year accomplishment dont matter

sweet tree
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neuer was at an elite level and I genuinely would put him over buffon and casillas in his prime

celest zephyr
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I agree, unlucky it was a span of 2 years and not 1.

sweet tree
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he was different in those years

dim ledge
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I uh

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I think I agree

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yeah

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Neuer>Casillas>Buffon?

sweet tree
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prime wise yeah

dim ledge
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yep

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agree

sweet tree
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casillas probably has a better career

fickle jolt
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Disagree cuz im bias

celest zephyr
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Buffon a little overrated imo

dim ledge
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madrid did him dirty lol

sweet tree
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wc euros like 3 ucls?

dim ledge
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Madrid also did Navas dirty

fickle jolt
dim ledge
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......

sweet tree
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but I got neuer over him who also has a WC and like 2 ucls

fickle jolt
silk notch
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He did

honest umbra
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buffon had longevity, casillas at his peak was the best but neuer was consistently elite (and still is)

dim ledge
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mf thats your legend lmao

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he became shit?

honest umbra
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so i think neuer wins out

dim ledge
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thats fucked up lol

fickle jolt
silk notch
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Its cause arbeloa stepped on his hand and after that injury he fell off

dim ledge
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wait thats a thing that happened?

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wow

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yknow what GK i remember at Madrid very temporarily

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Kiko Casilla

sweet tree
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actually

honest umbra
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u know who u should remember

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diego lopez

sweet tree
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I dont think I saw prime buffon, but casillas and neuer yeah

honest umbra
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dude was goated for a while

silk notch
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Lmao not Diego Lopez

fickle jolt
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DIEGO LOPEZ

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LOLLLLL

dim ledge
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dude what was the name of Brazils keeper

sweet tree
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he was good

dim ledge
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that played in that 7-1

sweet tree
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lopez in 2014?

fickle jolt
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He was alright

dim ledge
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fuck im blanking

fickle jolt
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Not real madrid level imo

dim ledge
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god he was Brazils keeper like his whole time on the team

sweet tree
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I think it was cesar?

dim ledge
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Julio Cesar

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yep

honest umbra
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u know who u should remember?

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oscar

dim ledge
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Gross

honest umbra
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sold out for the chinese league

fickle jolt
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Kimochi

honest umbra
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such an amazing player

dim ledge
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why would I want to remember a Chelsea player

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🤮

fickle jolt
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David luiz

sweet tree
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cesar was p goated for inter

dim ledge
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Thiago Silva>David Luiz

celest zephyr
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Ramires went to China too but I don’t think he sold out

dim ledge
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not remotely a contest

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yeah thats fine for ramires

dim ledge
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end of his career

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he was unreal for chelsea man

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pre-kante

celest zephyr
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He was insane for Chelsea yeah

dim ledge
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I think he makes my starting 11 of non-LFC PL players

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i remember one brazy season

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when payet was at west ham

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lmfao

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jesus christ

celest zephyr
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Lol

dim ledge
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that dude was ridiculous for WHU

fickle jolt
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yall play fifa?

dim ledge
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im trying to quit

fickle jolt
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Lol

dim ledge
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but yes

celest zephyr
sweet tree
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haven't touched fifa in like 7 years

silk notch
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Never played fifa

fickle jolt
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Cant quit that shit game

fickle jolt
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Never touch that game

celest zephyr
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pk2 so you’re more of a pro evolution soccer guy then

fickle jolt
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You touch u sell ur soul

dim ledge
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I played a bit this year bc I got lucky early on and packed prime Stoichkov in a pack

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so i got to make a nice team

silk notch
dim ledge
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then i realised I wasnt having fun so i stopped playing

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because it legitimately isnt fun

fickle jolt
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Salah in rome was a vibe

celest zephyr
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I didn’t know Salah was gonna be big

fickle jolt
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I remember my uncle being a rome fan in like 2015 or somin and he was sucking salah so hard

dim ledge
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God

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honest question

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Is Salahs prime (lets assume this is now) better than Hazard prime

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well not like NOW now but yknow what i mean

fickle jolt
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Prob yea

sweet tree
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idk

silk notch
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Probably but I feel like hazard had to do more

fickle jolt
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Maybe cuz i didnt watch alot of hazard

dim ledge
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I kinda agree pk

sweet tree
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hazard was fun to watch

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not current hazard

dim ledge
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I think Prime Salah>Prime Hazard pretty easily, but I think Salah has a better front 3/other methods of delivery

sweet tree
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I actually did like him pre madrid lol

celest zephyr
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Hazard’s best year was when Chelsea wasn’t playing in CL so it was hard to catch him

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Conte season

dim ledge
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I mean you have TAA supplying you the ball

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nuff said

silk notch
dim ledge
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he did love playing w the ball

silk notch
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Man was the only person on that team creating alot og the time

dim ledge
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yep

sweet tree
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playmaker usually do get more touches tho

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just how their game kinda works, game revolves around them usually

dim ledge
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Cesc Fabregas was great to watch on the ball

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so many spanish players were just class on the ball

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Xabi Alonso man

silk notch
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In an actual big 3 I'd take salah but on a worse team I'd take hazard

dim ledge
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mmmmmmmmmm

fickle jolt
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James in real madrid

dim ledge
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I think thats fair Pk

fickle jolt
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Chicharito as well

dim ledge
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Luka lmao dont get me started

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my colombian friend

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NEVER

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shuts the fuck up about how Zidane hated James

fickle jolt
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I loved james in real madrid so much

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And that year they had that dragon kit

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Holy fuck

dim ledge
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unpopular opinion

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that wasnt their best kit that year

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it was their pink away

fickle jolt
dim ledge
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but that trio of kits is S tier

fickle jolt
dim ledge
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hey man

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pinks my favourite colour

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let me live

fickle jolt
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NO THAT BLACK KIT WAS EVERYRHING

silk notch
fickle jolt
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literally award winning worthy

dim ledge
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ill take this, just me

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mmmmm

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what a nice pink

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though to my two Barca boys here

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that Miami vice neon kit yall had

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class

celest zephyr
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Okay is it just me but I hated it when Real and other la liga teams had lowercase italicized letters on the kit?

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I don’t get it

fickle jolt
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That year the makers were doing some shit to make them come up with those bangers

dim ledge
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see ok

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let me explain it this way

dim ledge
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I think the pink is better bc from far away

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that just looks like a black kit w white splotches

fickle jolt
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I know what ur saying

dim ledge
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the pink is sexy regardless

fickle jolt
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I kinda agree in a way but black is my fav color is im bias

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But technically black isnt a color

dim ledge
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not that one can go wrong w black but yeah

fickle jolt
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U GET MY POINT

dim ledge
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its high up there for me too tbf

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I think Ajax's marley kits this year are the best kit that has been released in a long time

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in general

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for any team

fickle jolt
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I really like liverpool away kit

dim ledge
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really? i disagree

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this is pretty simple

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just black and red w the rasta trim

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and yeah, i love our away this year

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that cream is great

fickle jolt
dim ledge
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Nike shit the bed first year they made our kits

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wasnt a fan whatsoever

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I kinda miss New Balance tbh

sweet tree
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I like the kit

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ajax one is clean

silk notch
fickle jolt
dim ledge
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Tbh pk

dim ledge
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thats the colours of alot of west african nations

sweet tree
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I'm iffy on that one

dim ledge
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Technically Ghana has the Red Yellow Green with the black star

sweet tree
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I think I like the Spurs kit

silk notch
fickle jolt
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Who yall got for the WC?

dim ledge
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Senegal has a green star
Mali has no star
Cameroon has yellow (i think?)

sweet tree
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the AIA sponsorship looks cool

dim ledge
silk notch
celest zephyr
dim ledge
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This are my teams I want to win in this order

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  1. Netherlands
  2. Brasil
  3. Senegal
fickle jolt
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I need iran to winCrocoKid

dim ledge
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Iran would be cool

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I'd be happy w them winning

silk notch
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I need either France or Portugal cause if Portugal wins I get the push the agenda

celest zephyr
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Need an Asian team to win

dim ledge
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I know plenty of Iranians im tight w em

fickle jolt
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If they did id literally go out in the streets naked

sweet tree
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what group is Iran in anyways

dim ledge
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Greeks 🤝 Iranians
Being more historic than Turkey

sweet tree
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wait it's in pins

dim ledge
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yes it is mala

fickle jolt
dim ledge
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i thought ahead

sweet tree
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yall not making it out

celest zephyr
dim ledge
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Luka 4th is playoff

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for europe

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between Scotland, Wales, and Ukraine

fickle jolt
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That

fickle jolt
sweet tree
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Wales topping that group

dim ledge
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Bale pls stop

fickle jolt
sweet tree
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probs England and Wales tbf

fickle jolt
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Bale was on fire for wales

dim ledge
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I mean yknow Mala

sweet tree
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or the US who knows

fickle jolt
dim ledge
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never say never...

fickle jolt
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🧎‍♂️

dim ledge
sweet tree
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england was awful lol

fickle jolt
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THIS LOL

dim ledge
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so bad lmao

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italy were awful too

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I still stand by what I said

dim ledge
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they did not deserve this euro

fickle jolt
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italy really playing with fire

dim ledge
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ah joe hart

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the man that got biked on by Ibra from 30 yards

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👏

celest zephyr
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I’m still confused how a team like Italy wins Euros and crashes out of WC qualification.

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I’d rather have WC qualification than a Euro win for my country

silk notch
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No goal threats really

dim ledge
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Pushing my agenda

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Yes

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Thank you pk

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Spot on

sweet tree
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their left back carried them

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I forgot his name already

dim ledge
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Italy winning euros was circumstancial and I stand by that

sweet tree
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fucking hell

fickle jolt
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Bro i remember watching 2018 ucl finals right when sergio fucked up salah i remember not telling anyone i was a madrid fan cuz i literally feared for my life we have alot of egyptians here

sweet tree
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spinazzola

dim ledge
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Southgate is also a bumbling fucking idiot

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Sorry England fans

sweet tree
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that guy was brazy for italy lol

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chiesa had his moments too

dim ledge
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Oh dude uh

silk notch
dim ledge
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Spinnazol

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Yeah

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Gotta say, a certain Dutch fullback also had a great euro

sweet tree
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he was their best attacking threat in that euros ngl till he got injured

dim ledge
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Mr. Dumfries

fickle jolt
sweet tree
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yeah he did

dim ledge
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So excited to watch Netherlands man

fickle jolt
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Its all strategical tho like the motherfucker knew what he was doing

dim ledge
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It felt so good to watch Benzema shit on Chelsea lmfao

celest zephyr
dim ledge
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And then they bring on Lukaku to try to score

celest zephyr
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I thought he was insanely good

dim ledge
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Babel was good man yeah

silk notch
dim ledge
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He's a streets won't forget too

fickle jolt
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That joke of a team

dim ledge
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Yeah facts

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He did that

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I fucking hate psg lmao

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See let me explain

fickle jolt
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Yea everyone hates psg

dim ledge
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I hate real and united BC they're big but they deserve to be there

sweet tree
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they collapsed themselves honestly

dim ledge
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I hate psg and city BC they just buy buy buy

fickle jolt
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Cant buy ur way into trophies

dim ledge
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Chelsea can get thrown in there too

sweet tree
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I dont really like city

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I like pep but idk

dim ledge
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That's more than fair

fickle jolt
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City can suck my balls

celest zephyr
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I hate how psg didn’t just buy a good midfielder. Hakimi was good buy but rest didn’t make sense

fickle jolt
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Oil munchers dude

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Oh im middle eastern ^ btw🧎‍♂️

sweet tree
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he's probably their best transfer

silk notch
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Yea I dont like city cause mahrez dont be doing none of that he do there for Algeria

dim ledge
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Because they don't let him

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But when he actually starts he's fantastic

fickle jolt
sweet tree
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their players are chill

fickle jolt
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Like every muslim in football is a good roll model tbh

celest zephyr
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Kante is muslim right?

dim ledge
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Benzy, Salah, Mane, Mahrez, Kante

silk notch
dim ledge
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Who else

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Pk fyi I meant city

sweet tree
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pogba

dim ledge
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Not Algeria

fickle jolt
dim ledge
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Rudis Muslim? Huh

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Had no clue

fickle jolt
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Mhm he was doing haj with kante and mahrez lol

silk notch
silk notch
fickle jolt
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I love how benz shat on chelsea while fasting

dim ledge
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People are starting to say Trent's Muslim BC of this pic

fickle jolt
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How many muslims have yall got

dim ledge
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Good

fickle jolt
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😭

dim ledge
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Let's see

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Salah, Mane, Keita, and evidently Trent now lmao

silk notch
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Yall got 3

dim ledge
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No

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4

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Konaté

fickle jolt
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Thats alot

silk notch
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Oh yea

dim ledge
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Possibly 5 if Trent is actually Muslim

fickle jolt
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Now

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Dont think christians do that pose when praying for something right

dim ledge
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Some do

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Some sects of orthodoxy

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Which is even less likely than Trent being Muslim so

fickle jolt
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Yea maybe

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AnywAys ill head out now

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Goodnight yall

celest zephyr
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Night

dim ledge
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Gn

celest zephyr
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Have sweet dreams of Mbappe and Haaland together in RM next season

dim ledge
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Having the worlds best front 3 was fun while it lasted

sweet tree
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Haaland going to city

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I think

celest zephyr
dim ledge
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Fuck man city

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All my homies hate man city

sweet tree
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they probably could

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I just dunno how haaland would work when benzema is there already

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in his probably best form of his life

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I think Haaland would benefit more at city for a few years and then get his Madrid move later on? imo, but idk I really dunno where he'll go tbh

celest zephyr
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Just offload him like Real did with Ramos and Navas but yeah Benzema still has another good year left

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So it’s awkward

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But maybe sign Haaland for him to join at 23/24?

sweet tree
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Ramos was injury prone when they got rid of him, different case tbh

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Benz is practically a top 3 player rn, arguably the best I guess

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If you ask me, I think City will take Haaland. Signs a 4/5 year contract and later moves on to one of the spanish clubs at Barça/Madrid. Idk

dim ledge
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Well we know for sure now he isn't going to Liverpool

sweet tree
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he's too expensive honestly

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his agent is also asking for a lot

silk notch
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Well if u got the money than it's not an issue

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And city do

sweet tree
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yeah, I think City is the best bet. I'm sure madrid can afford him, just squad planning wise I'm not sure if that's the right move.

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they should buy some fullbacks lol

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also need a RW I guess

silk notch
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I think its worth it for Madrid to pair him up with mbappe for the future instead of waiting four years

sweet tree
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they would dominate footy if they are able to gel well, I'd prefer that doesn't happen

celest zephyr
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I think PSG could gel if they get pep. Get Pep working on them for 2 years at least

sweet tree
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Pep not going to PSG lol

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I dont see that happening tbf

dim ledge
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It would he Peps MO tbf

sweet tree
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  • their sporting director is kinda toxic so idk.
dim ledge
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"have a pipeline of money and players just win us trophies"

sweet tree
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they would probably have to get rid of a lot of people for pep to work with over there

silk notch
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Pep would flop there

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He'd over think it in the ucl like always and nobody cares about winning the league there

celest zephyr
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So who can fix PSG then?

sweet tree
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how long is his contract city

silk notch
celest zephyr
sweet tree
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not sure you can fix psg, they're simply just chokers in europe but they shouldve not sacked Tuchel that's fosho. Actually got a UCL final out of that team

celest zephyr
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So 2 years

silk notch
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They are a cursed club

celest zephyr
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Pep likely to leave at start of 23/24

sweet tree
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hmmm

celest zephyr
sweet tree
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honestly he'll probably take a break and return with 1 more club I guess

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he could always manage brazil lol

dim ledge
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I think Liverpool are worse off without Klopp than City without Pep

sweet tree
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brazil really wants him I think

celest zephyr
silk notch
dim ledge
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Mhm. They have the capital to cushion pretty much anyone to come in

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Klopps trying to future proof but idk

sweet tree
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would Stevie G be next in line

celest zephyr
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and end up like Lampard?

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get sacked as a club legend?

sweet tree
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he's done better than lampard

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with aston villa

dim ledge
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It's possible Mala. It's between him or Ljinders

sweet tree
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also rangers as well

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but

silk notch
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Well lampard wasnt even that bad and he has more experience than lampard

sweet tree
celest zephyr
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Would be good for pl for them to stay

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Good rivarly

sweet tree
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would be like Fergie and Wenger

celest zephyr
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Yes

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Good times when Fergie Wenger Mou Benitze were all at war

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peak epl

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I need to go too. Bye guys

dim ledge
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I see pep extending as way more likely

sweet tree
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klopps been managing for far longer iirc

dim ledge
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3 years younger

sweet tree
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20 years or so I think?

dim ledge
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And I think that Klopp not being able to be in Germany for his mother's death/funeral BC of COVID

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Really messed him up

sweet tree
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2001 with Mainz

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ah

dim ledge
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So yeah. Let Jürgen take a much deserved sabbatical/retirement

silk notch
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It must be scary for liverpool fans to think about life after klopp

dim ledge
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Eh

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More sad than anything

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Don't want to get too into it but

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A big reason I, and many others support Liverpool

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Is the ethos/values of the club

silk notch
dim ledge
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I really feel that Klopp embodies that and also manages to be a great manager. Having someone who's a great manager and is a great human at the same time is amazing and I wouldn't change him for anyone else

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I don't think, even if we have a successful manager right after him, that I'll love them like I love klopp

silk notch
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Yea klopp is really chill and has good takes like that covid one he had a while ago

celest zephyr
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I love how he doesn’t ostracize the non-starters and treats them well. Like how he used Xhaqiri, Wijaldum and Origi

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He got them pumping so when he would sub them on they’d give everything. Whereas other managers don’t get along with players that aren’t in the main squad. A good human being I agree

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okay I have to go, need to make breakfast for family..

dim ledge
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Have a good day and breakfast

chilly turtle
dim ledge
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World class

sweet tree
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szn went by quick ngl lol, already on fixture what 30-31...

dim ledge
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Yep

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7 games left

sweet tree
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yuh 7 games, still some UCL games to play as well

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and cup finals too

burnt cedar
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There’s enough talent for them to be successful with it

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Bayern do the same and it works for them

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PSG right now buy players for the sake of buying players

burnt cedar
broken ledge
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What a legend

simple seal
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Only 1 undefeated MLB team remaining SaboEvil

buoyant jungle
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I haven't actively watched baseball since before the pandemic and looking at the A's team I just don't recognize more than 2 players. UsoppGrief

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Money ball, baybee...

short spindle
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Roman might buy Valencia

dim kettle
celest zephyr
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damn doncic got a calf strain in his last game

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well there goes the mavs

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Getting injured to carry plumbers to victory .-.

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yeh i was going for the mavs to beat the jazz, but without a 100% luka the jazz probably win

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the mavs perimeter defence isn't great and with doncic struggling that'd affect their ability to target the jazz's own flaws

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i also don't know if kleber and powell can handle gobert in the paint

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that being said the jazz look one bad loss away from falling apart and their recent acquistions mostly look pretty cooked

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vogel gone

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could see him going the jazz if snyder's contract expires at the end of this season and the jazz don't do well in the playoffs

robust grotto
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No NBA tonight

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NHL has a chance to get people to watch !!!!

celest zephyr
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what i don't get is why not just have every team play on the same day then

robust grotto
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But then the entirety of Canada wouldn’t get to watch the glory that is Jets / Habs

celest zephyr
#

i'd get it if it was like boston habs

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because both of them hate each other

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but like wpg-mtl sounds like two teams who are playing at a mediocre level right now with no bad blood or anything

robust grotto
#

LMFAO but think of all the Canadians from Whitehorse to St Johns !

robust grotto
#

what else will they watch?! Habs Jets on a Monday in mid April

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No I agree it’s silly

celest zephyr
#

that being said its going to be hilarious to see the hockey guy just review one game

robust grotto
#

just makes it funnier that there’s no basketball either. Only fighting against baseball. Shame they ended up with such a doozy of a game

And yeah lmao but those are lowkey his best bc he’ll have more thoughts on the game since he’s able to watch it all

celest zephyr
#

yeah definitely

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weird to have pretty much nothing on

robust grotto
#

Going to be the last slow sports night until summer at least

celest zephyr
#

yeh

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sixers raptors is going to be a nuclear waste plant

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every casual nba fan rejoices as the salt mines in toronto and philly grow exponetially

fickle jolt
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steph curry with the shot

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^ i dont know anything about basketball lol

celest zephyr
dim kettle
robust grotto
dim kettle
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Baseball get's no respect. smh lol

robust grotto
#

haha just the reality, unfortunately

celest zephyr
#

lol yeh don't really watch mlb

dim ledge
#

Nobody would blame you for that

chilly turtle
celest zephyr
#

what legends lol

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mlb and nhl have to do a better job at marketing their best players

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like i can pay no attention to basketball and still know who bron, steph, etc are

burnt cedar
dim ledge
#

Leegunner made this

dim kettle
dim kettle
versed forge
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Dang no nba today, time to watch nhl

robust grotto
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Except the game is basically the Knicks vs the Kings, so I’m sorry I’m advance if you do watch

versed forge
#

Damn

robust grotto
#

One game on tonight and it’s fucking Jets / Habs lmao so disappointing

celest zephyr
#

They got the boomer mindset for the entire league

robust grotto
#

I think youth culture has a lot to do with it too. There aren’t any cool celebrities or artists that are vocal about their love for baseball or hockey

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There’s just no one cool really telling kids they should be watching. Meanwhile there’s a basketball reference on new rap albums or on tv shows

#

Marketing def plays a part though. All sports fan should know who Conor McDavid is

celest zephyr
#

The culture of baseball and hockey specifically is probably the exact opposite of basketball 💀💀💀

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Which presents many issues

robust grotto
#

definitely the truth

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Well idk about baseball but hockey players for sure, they don’t like talking, they don’t like media stuff, they’re taught to just focus on team stuff before anything

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not really great for marketing when the most important player never says anything interesting

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I love hockey and the NHL though, ultimately it’s always going to be niche. They’ll never get as many people to watch, but the ones that do watch are almost always hardcore

celest zephyr
#

Tbh another thing is this. If MLB and NHL got more popular they’d probably have five times as many controversies as the NFL lol 💀

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NFL nonsense is only talked about cuz it’s popular

robust grotto
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Ofc all sports do

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Idk about 5 times but controversies come out all the time man

celest zephyr
#

Lol you know what I’m saying cmon now

robust grotto
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not really tbh

dim ledge
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Yeah I'm not sure I agree milly

robust grotto
#

Hockey and baseball not being popular doesn’t mean bad shit doesn’t come out constantly. Angels coaching staff got caught giving pills to Tyler Skaggs

Blackhawks had a trainer who sexually abused a young player

dim ledge
#

Footy has 20x the following of NFL and doesn't have half of the controversy

celest zephyr
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Yeah but NFL and MLB have a more similar type of personnel lol

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💀💀💀

dim ledge
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Personnel ?

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Like athletes?

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Or do you mean fans/demographics

celest zephyr
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Fans and FO personnel basically

dim ledge
#

I mean I don't disagree there but again I don't think that would equate to the MLB having as many controversies as the NFL

dim kettle
dim ledge
#

Legit. I've not seen a sport with as many controversies as the NFL

dim ledge
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Especially domestic stuff

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MLB and NHL suddenly being popular isn't going to make the players behave the way NFL players do

celest zephyr
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Lol that’s not the type of controversy im talking about like

dim ledge
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?

dim kettle
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Tim Anderson my favorite player is very fearless with bat flipping, celebrating, etc. And get's rewarded with a 98 fastball to his hand.

celest zephyr
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I mean the stuff that drives fans away

dim ledge
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Ok so we're on select controversy now

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.....domestic abuse wouldn't drive fans away, you think?

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Really?

celest zephyr
#

Clearly not

robust grotto
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Baseball is one of, if not the most multicultural sport in America. so many Latin American players ooze swag and fun, they should def be more vocal but organizations are too scared. Someone like Tim Anderson should be a star in this country but he’s not and that’s a shame

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Siren that’s a great point dude you’re right

dim ledge
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I don't agree. I think multiple fans have been driven away from the sport BC of that. I don't however think any realistic controversy is going to see fans leave in droves

celest zephyr
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Not cause fans to leave I mean it makes it difficult to reach fans

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Basically im saying baseball is way too conservative and boomerish

dim ledge
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I'm apologising as I'm not sure I'm understanding your stipulation

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Okay I mean

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I kinda get it but is that really true when MLB takes in players from fucking Cuba? Lmao

dim kettle
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The NFL is trying to stop the personality with the stupid taunting rules. But yet the NFL is still the most popular sport in the US. The problem with baseball and hockey is no one knows who the top guys are in any sport. And things like the pace of the game. Everyone is trying to hit the long ball now which leads to a lot of dead innings of pop outs or groundouts.

dim ledge
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Come on man

dim ledge
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Because you're on about it being boomer conservatives

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When they're taking players from a communist country

robust grotto
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I think he means fans and media members

dim ledge
#

I hate the MLB I'm not defending it in any fashion trust me

dim kettle
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That's a lot of the old people in the media. The stupid unwritten rules, etc

dim ledge
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And I agree the NBA is the outlier insofar as the way fans look at the world

robust grotto
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Facts that’s every sport - media members in the NFL had a heart attack when they moved the extra point back a few yards lmaooo

dim ledge
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But I don't think that the majority of fans of the NHL are that way. I'd say NFL and MLB are far more in that direction that you're implying than the NHL is

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Even when the Prem does rainbow laces or were kneeling you had mfs complaining

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That's every sport dude

robust grotto
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Truth, great shout there

dim ledge
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And even if you don't follow as much as me, you know that footy, specifically the prem, is very much not adhering to the values and ethics you're implying

celest zephyr
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Ofc they don’t lol

dim kettle
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It's not like the NBA game has been the best it's been either. It has the same issue like baseball where it's nothing but players going up for 3 and missing for endless minutes. People know the NBA because of the personalities and superstars. They know who they are. Baseball. Good luck trying to get a random person to know who Mike Trout or Tim Anderson, Aaron Judge, etc is

celest zephyr
#

As a matter of fact, idek what people believe in in England

dim ledge
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It's a mix homie

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Just like anywhere else

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Sports and their fans behaviours aren't correlated to the controversy of a sport in that sense you're saying. As a sport fan I've seen the most blowback, by a mile, from NFL with that sort of thing

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And that isn't related to its popularity whatsoever imo

#

You're confusing popularity with cultural ingraining

celest zephyr
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The cultural ingraining of the sport does effect how popular it can get tho lol

dim ledge
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Yes but the cultural ingraining is what brings about issues with matters of civics

celest zephyr
#

Like why would I go play baseball when I could just go play basketball and the people act different

dim ledge
#

Not the popularity

#

I mean that's a question you're asking yourself

celest zephyr
#

yeah exactly the personality of nba players is well known

dim ledge
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I can't answer that for you

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But

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I get what you're saying

celest zephyr
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Well you can see how this generations best athletes answered it

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like i'm a leafs fan but i can't tell you much about matthews or marner or nylander's personalities off of the rink

robust grotto
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that’s hockey culture to a tee. they are as lowkey as possible

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again, not great for marketing but that’s their right. If they don’t want to show off then idk, as long as they don’t get in trouble then it is what it is

rustic mountain
#

As a casual fan of hockey, I kinda like it that way

celest zephyr
#

yeah fair enough

#

sometimes nba players say a lot of shit

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Probably bad for the game tbh

robust grotto
#

That’s the greatest hockey player in the world on the right

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Lmfao

rustic mountain
#

The flipside of having sports where your best players are dominante personalities is that they create a cult of personality and a fandom of their own

dim ledge
#

I don't see how players not having big media personalities is bad for the game

rustic mountain
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It's not

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I just

robust grotto
rustic mountain
#

Don't care fornit

#

For it*

dim kettle
#

What’s sad about the NHL is they used to promote their stars a lot 20+years ago. People used to know who Martin Brodeur, Mario Lemieux, Patrick Roy, steve Yzerman were.

rustic mountain
#

I like watching the sport

robust grotto
#

Just a dude or a guy who scores 100 points a season? You’d never know hahaha

celest zephyr
#

It’s not big media personalities lol. But you have to talk about the game and engage with it

#

Like how Draymond Green gives detailed discussions of basketball

#

It’s really interesting for people who know the game to see a current player discussing plays like that

dim ledge
#

Sorry Milly I fully disagree there

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I don't want players explaining the game to me like it's my first time watching

#

I haaaaaate that shit bro

celest zephyr
#

i mean i do get it

#

I doubt you know the game better than them lol cmon now

dim ledge
#

I'm not saying I do

celest zephyr
#

guys who really break down the game like jj are really interesting

#

What they have to say is eye opening

rustic mountain
#

I enjoy a player or coach going into details about complicated things

dim kettle
#

It has to be done though. Sports is also a business after all

rustic mountain
#

Like it's interesting if Belichick explains how his defense works sometimes

dim ledge
#

I'm not understanding. We went from controversy or lack thereof to players having media personalities now

#

What's the focal point

celest zephyr
#

It’s all related in getting people to watch

rustic mountain
#

But I don't care for LaDainian Tomlinson saying "you gotta want it enough" or something

celest zephyr
#

yeh

#

And popularizing the game

#

and also its not really a personality to discuss the game

dim ledge
#

If it's about popularity then

celest zephyr
#

i can listen to hear what draymond has to say about players, etc without having to give a shit about anything else that comes out of his mouth

dim ledge
#

I don't think the NHL or MLB market themselves particularly well

rustic mountain
#

They don't

dim kettle
#

Yeah

dim ledge
#

Especially the NHL

celest zephyr
#

well yeah

dim ledge
#

And you know what a big part of that is?

rustic mountain
#

The NFL and NBA far outpace them

dim ledge
#

Hint, it's the same reason NBA and footy are so popular

robust grotto
#

@dim ledge classic

dim kettle
#

I bet a lot of Canadians don’t know who Vlad Jr is

dim ledge
#

MLB and NHL need a decent amount of equipment and, usually, proper playing surfaces/field to play the sport

rustic mountain
#

Idk if they do but tbh Shadow the CFL and hockey is more popular there than youd think

#

Well

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Hockey you are probably spot on lmao

robust grotto
dim ledge
#

Whereas NBA, NFL, and footy need far far less

#

It's class based milly

#

Simple as

celest zephyr
#

That’s a component lol

dim ledge
#

Which, isn't to say people of particular class can't enjoy MLB and NHL

#

But it makes it harder when you can't play it

#

Then when the more accessible sports get popular in your community

robust grotto
#

That’s DEFINITELY true. Not enough kids play at a young age

#

Doesn’t help the case for more new fans to watch

dim ledge
#

Hockey unfortunately as much as I love it

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Is the worst offender as Sab said

rustic mountain
#

Environment plays a major role. Hockey is easily more accessible for people in colder climates

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But colder climates, usually less population

celest zephyr
#

I have another example. I played golf as a kid (which explains to you that I had the money to afford golf equipment). However, after playing with golfers I shortly realized that it was not the environment I was most comfortable in

robust grotto
#

hockey will always have it the toughest bc of the equipment and bc you have to pay for ice time

celest zephyr
#

i mean also at least as someone from around toronto there's also like some sense of a cultural shift to basketball from hockey

#

Had very little to do with the game because I like golf

#

and the raptors success definitely has helped shift it into that direction

rustic mountain
#

Golf is hoarded by the upper class tbh dude

celest zephyr
#

But they basketball kids were so nice to me I just played with them instead lol

dim ledge
#

Well Milly you're also reducing class strictly to economic status

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Which is a huge component

#

But class is based on socioeconomic status rather than purely economic

celest zephyr
#

like it'd at least not be crazy to argue that basketball is the more popular sport among younger people than hockey

dim ledge
#

And what you're saying is true

rustic mountain
#

And it's not all equipment. It's where you are allowed to play, who you can play with, etc etc

#

Though it doesn't quite have the tall gate as something like polo does

dim ledge
#

People of certain socioeconomic statuses may feel less comfortable in environments that cultivate certain milieu

rustic mountain
#

I 1000% like golf less because of the company it keeps half the time

#

I don't like a sport where socioeconomic status prevents you from fully enjoying it

celest zephyr
#

Lol

#

Very hot take in golf

burnt cedar
dim kettle
#

Yeah, hockey, you can't just go outside and play it. But at the same time Soccer is also very easy to go outside and play with friends. But yet and I'm sorry Footy fans, not enough people in the US give a crap about it still.

rustic mountain
#

I know considering what golf is

dim ledge
#

Legacy of failure

robust grotto
#

Bruh. Mfers just quit bc they couldn’t buy a UCL

burnt cedar
rustic mountain
#

My gf lives on a golf course and tbh people are ridiculous there

burnt cedar
#

National pride etc

dim ledge
#

And it all has to do with the United States having poor infrastructure for its people, especially in urban areas

#

Urban areas, build a basketball hoop on literally anything and tar it over. Ezpz

burnt cedar
#

Wonder what happens with Messi now

celest zephyr
#

Tbf I could probably go outside and play hockey if I wanted to as could my neighbors

#

But.. nah

rustic mountain
#

I think there are a multitude of reasons why soccer isn't as popular in the states and tbh I think american football is a major component as to why

dim ledge
#

But now with footy, you have to plan out a particular space and maintain the land

#

Which is already difficult in an urban area

celest zephyr
#

It’s all just about what the top athletes are given equipment for at a young age

dim ledge
#

Most urban areas have one specific park, maybe two, where there's open fields and shit

celest zephyr
#

Like they were out like hawks trying to get kids in football lol

#

Soccer is something you kinda choose to play

dim ledge
#

Meanwhile the same way that the us has tennis courts and basketball courts, other countries have pitches for footy

rustic mountain
#

I mean yeah bur

#

But

dim ledge
#

Cultural differential based on urban planning

celest zephyr
#

You can just play soccer on the football field tho

rustic mountain
#

Tennis is also kinda class based again

dim ledge
#

Yes Milly but unless you're in school

dim kettle
#

The bottom line is, the popularity of the sport is still very low even lower than hockey in the US. So it isn't so much the growth or the inability for people to go out and play

rustic mountain
#

At least from what I am aware of

dim ledge
#

The us doesn't go out of its way to build American football fields in urban areas outside of a schools property

#

I legitimately do not think I've seen a single one

celest zephyr
#

We have a bunch here

dim ledge
#

Not a single one by me and I'm not remotely joking

rustic mountain
#

It's easier to build a football field that doubles as a soccer field

dim ledge
#

All are owned by a school in some fashion

dim kettle
#

It used to be the same with american football for the longest time. A lot of places didn't have stadiums built for football alone. They used to have to share with a baseball team.

dim ledge
#

Yes but again those are owned by schools rather than being open for the public

rustic mountain
#

And tbh the area I grew up in that's exactly what it was

celest zephyr
#

Lol

#

Interesting people

rustic mountain
#

Which probably means you were decently well off I think

celest zephyr
#

Yeah I would say so

rustic mountain
#

Because I grew up lower middle class/poor in some cases

#

And I never even once sniffed a tennis racket

#

We had golf clubs but they were handmedowns

dim kettle
#

I didn't even get the chance of playing a game of tennis till high school. And I've known the sport since I was a little kid.

dim ledge
#

A big part of sports culture in America is American exceptionalism

burnt cedar
#

Because of how unpopular tennis was our school just put the whole budget Into table tennis

celest zephyr
#

My mother played tennis and it became a thing I did too. Also my dad played basketball in college and I (tried) to play basketball too💀💀💀

dim ledge
#

This same exact logic was used by the government of the PRC

#

and that's why they're like #1 table tennis worldwide

celest zephyr
#

Table tennis is a good investment tbh

#

Fun and can’t be ruined by the weather

burnt cedar
#

We got the table tennis equipment around the London Olympics too

burnt cedar
celest zephyr
#

Outdoor table tennis ? Cmon now

burnt cedar
#

Was pretty fun

dim kettle
#

Since I live in Florida, I've seen shit ton of Tennis courts and Golf courses in my life.

dim ledge
#

Yeah NJ ain't much different

dim kettle
#

I couldn't play Golf. That shit is actually more stressful than you may think.

dim ledge
#

Literally like within a 10 minute drive I probably have at least 6 golf courses/country clubs

burnt cedar
#

Most of the tennis courts here are just concrete

#

With a net QueenKEKW

haughty moss
dim ledge
#

And that plus 3 for tennis courts

robust grotto
#

I’d love to play golf

dim ledge
#

Funny Lunik and I were just talking about this the other day lmao

#

Yeah same

celest zephyr
#

I used to play at Orange County National actually

dim ledge
#

Too bad country clubs charge a year's salary for normal humans to be a member

burnt cedar
#

Played mini golf for the first time recently

robust grotto
#

hockey motions baby, I could def get golf swing down but uhhh…. My wallet

burnt cedar
#

After that exp I’m expecting a call from the PGA

robust grotto
#

LMAO

#

“ sencho, you’re in, congrats “

celest zephyr
#

i mean at least you can learn how far you can hit your wallet lol

robust grotto
#

that I can

#

I can always go to top golf too

dim kettle
haughty moss
robust grotto
dim kettle
#

SAME.

#

lol

#

Still calls sometimes when I'm up in NJ to play golf with him.

celest zephyr
#

lol i've never played hockey

dim ledge
#

Hockey being similar to footy is why I got into it

robust grotto
burnt cedar
#

Is this just ice hockey

#

Or field hockey

dim ledge
#

Ice

celest zephyr
#

ice

dim kettle
#

Yeah, if I ever wanted to get into Soccer it would be easy for me to understand. But let's face it, I have a hard time even getting to watch the junior hockey or Triple A baseball as it is.

burnt cedar
#

Not watched hockey but I felt basketball was really easy to get into from watching football

robust grotto
#

Offsides baiting, stretch passes, triangle passing

dim kettle
#

Lots of speed and physical play in Ice Hockey.

dim ledge
#

It's funny BC the scoring roles are kinda inversed in footy

#

Well they were

#

Really your wingers supplied your centre forward

#

Rather than the center supplying the wingers

#

But now it's kinda a toss up based on your play style. Liverpool have Salah and Mane who are goalscoring machines

robust grotto
#

a lot of similarities in tactics

dim kettle
#

Yeah, I've watched a Footy game here and there and was able to understand it. "So, it's like like hockey" moments.

robust grotto
#

Even something like goalie distribution is a similarity

#

fouls / penalties are essentially the same

#

Tripping, hit to the head

dim ledge
#

Fun fact, the best footy goalkeeper of all time was also a hockey goalie

#

Mr. Lev Yashin

robust grotto
#

Factos

dim ledge
#

UltranuclearChernobylalphagigachad

#

Man wore the hat while playing

haughty moss
versed forge
haughty moss
celest zephyr
#

legm preparing for another summer of letting his buddies in

robust grotto
#

I think the hat is actually pretty cool

dim ledge
#

Springfield isotopes type beat

rustic ore
#

Would prefer white pants but overall nice unis

fickle jolt
celest zephyr
#

nah he does

#

weird angle probably

#

or maybe they stretched it or shrunk it

dim kettle
rustic ore
#

6’0 vs 5’11

simple seal
#

Hah, I know a video that talks about those 2 players

#

And how their height makes them have some trouble with their actual srike zone

#

For 2021

dim kettle
#

How do you lay an egg against the Orioles, Brewers. SMH

#

And Patino is injured. Fuck.

robust grotto
robust grotto
simple seal
#

This dude who subbed Patiño is gonna be our new Wacha isnt he lmao

dim kettle
dim kettle
robust grotto
celest zephyr
#

HAHHAAHAHAHAHAH

#

man if only the thunder kept harden lol

#

worst case he'd be an amazing bench guard best case well he resembles prime harden

#

this blows

#

had an amazing season and now is either going to play hurt or miss the postseason

#

jazz would have to collapse catastrophically to lose this series

proud coyote
#

well

#

that'd be on brand

simple seal
#

Rays ded

#

And Mets blowing up lol

proud coyote
#

5 runs in the bottom of the 8th jesus lol

rustic mountain
#

Come on Jays hold on to this one

#

So what uh

proud coyote
#

when did you abandon the sox sab?

#

or were you never a fan

rustic mountain
#

Two years ago

proud coyote
#

what happened?

#

cora?

rustic mountain
#

When they pulled that Alex Cora bullshit

proud coyote
#

ah

#

yeah, and now look at him lol

#

the target of ire

rustic mountain
#

Left a real sour taste in my mouh man

#

Mouth*

#

Plus I am 90% sure the Sox cheated to win their last WS

#

So

#

I stopped watching baseball for a year as a break and then found love for it again in the blue jays

proud coyote
#

they're a fun team

rustic mountain
#

Very. Always dug their look and logo

#

And my gf being Canadian helps

#

Lmao

#

There it is boys

#

First win over the Yankees this yead

#

Year*

#

:sabothumbsup:

#

Damn it

dim kettle
#

Jays win

rustic mountain
#

Always feels good to beat the pinstripes

dim kettle
#

Watching the Jays makes it clear that they're the Canada version of the White Sox. Elite hitting core with pitching that makes you want to pull your hair out.

rustic mountain
#

I mean

#

Yeah you’re right

#

But Alex Manoah did fantastic

#

Hopefully Gausman and Berrios CAN GET THEIR SHIT TOGETHER

dim kettle
#

I mainly talking about bullpen arms as well.

rustic mountain
#

Ah

#

Yeah well

#

You aint wrong at all

celest zephyr
#

he's for sure out then

#

really doubt they'd not mention the grade if its a grade 1 where he'd be able to return by like game 2 or game 3

warm kestrel
#

2021-22 NBA Playoffs:

Western Conference Play-In Tournament:

  1. Minnesota Timberwolves vs. 8. Los Angeles Clippers
  2. New Orleans Pelicans vs. 10. San Antonio Spurs

Western Conference 1st Round:

  1. Phoenix Suns vs. 8. TBD
  2. Dallas Mavericks vs. 5. Utah Jazz
  3. Memphis Grizzlies vs. 7. TBD
  4. Golden State Warriors vs. 6. Denver Nuggets

Eastern Conference Play-In Tournament:

  1. Brooklyn Nets vs. 8. Cleveland Cavaliers
  2. Atlanta Hawks vs. 10. Charlotte Hornets

Eastern Conference 1st Round:

  1. Miami Heat vs. 8. TBD
  2. Philadelphia 76ers vs. 5 Toronto Raptors
  3. Boston Celtics vs. 7. TBD
  4. Milwaukee Bucks vs. 6. Chicago Bulls
celest zephyr
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we just had to face off against the bucks 1st round

dim ledge
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Almost as caked up as me

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Almost.

buoyant jungle
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Damn the A's beat the Rays 13-2 TanakaPog

buoyant jungle
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Its the catcher so he got them squats in

simple seal
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My boys looking decent

hasty basin
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Lets GOOO

celest zephyr
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congrats on winning game 1 because the bucks suck in game 1 and then gentleman's swept

celest zephyr
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the blazers are 1-15 in their division

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wow

chilly flare
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The bucks really avoided the Nets round 1

chilly flare
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29 games

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hasn't played in 2022 though

celest zephyr
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please no

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Is Rudy Gobert good?

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I honestly can’t decide

celest zephyr
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yeah i'd say so

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part of it is reputation another is having clear strengths and weaknesses (rim protection, finishing at the rim, screensetting, etc. as positives. inability to shoot, exploitable on the perimeter as key weaknesses)

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he's known for being targeted in the playoffs in part due to pulling him out of the paint being a smart thing to do as that opens up the paint more and rudy is better on the perimeter but still not that much of a positive there and also since the jazz have a pretty bad perimeter defence with royce o'neale being the only solid perimeter defender they have

haughty moss
celest zephyr
celest zephyr
haughty moss
robust grotto
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yeah the mavericks are fucked

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what matchup are you guys hyped the most for?

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west is tough, since without luka mavs-jazz is whatever. gsw-den is alright but without murray and mpj it'll just be jokic carrying
east deff philly - toronto. maybe bos-bkn if that ends up happening

versed forge
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Rip Mavs

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Nets & Clippers winning today FrankEZ