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robust grotto
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LA could win

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And yeh I agree Siren

honest umbra
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probably true but both of kings titles came under such improbable runs, being 8th seed and then being down 0-3 and going to game 7 3 times in a row

robust grotto
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As much as I was critical of the rangers re-signing Kreider at the time… sometimes you really do need guys who understand all the corny stuff like team culture, that stuff rubs off on young players

dim kettle
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So it isn't what it seems.

honest umbra
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sutton was what they needed

robust grotto
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The coach. ?

dim kettle
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Once they fired Terry Murray and traded for Jeff Carter, the team got hot.

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2011-12 was such a weird year. The fucking Yotes were the 3rd seed. That's all you need to know.

honest umbra
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also when the kings got gaborik lol

robust grotto
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Same w the Blues in 2019. Fired Yeo, brought in Berube. Binnington got a shot and the rest is history

dim kettle
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Of course the context was different. The Blues were last place in the west in January. While the Kings before the 2011-12 season was seen to be pushing for a run when they traded for Mike Richards.

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I remember when the Kings were like 26-27th in scoring. Definitely see why they fired Terry Murray.

robust grotto
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absolutely, every run is different. every team has different expectations, goals, etc

dim kettle
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Yeah, I just think as time goes by the NHL and fans have given this narrative that the 2012 Kings were this massive underdog coming into the playoffs without much of the context. Honestly, I think the Devils were really the underdog story that simply didn't happen because they didn't win the cup.

robust grotto
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They absolutely were and they’ve only been to the playoffs one time since then

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You’re right. At least the kings were on the up prior. They played enough playoff games after to prove that. While the devils fluttered and faded

celest zephyr
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yeah boston is the weakest team making the playoffs in the atlantic division

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that being said toronto in game 7 is also non existent so lmao

dim kettle
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Leaf fans when they have to face Boston again in the first round:

celest zephyr
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the lolyotes have won a playoff round more recently than toronto

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good thing florida is going to blow them up in the first round

celest zephyr
celest zephyr
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nfl soap opera continues

rustic ore
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What a dummy

robust grotto
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LMAOOOOOOOOO

dim kettle
celest zephyr
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famous jameis' bakery

fair skiff
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My god y'all should see the cover of the show 22 the deluxe edition

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They made ohtani an anime character for the game as the cover

celest zephyr
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even james harden didn't like harden ball

dim kettle
honest umbra
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though idk how young fultz is anymore

dim kettle
honest umbra
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wait

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this might actually be the youngest team in the nba lol

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except for robin lopez ol' ass

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suggs, anthony, fultz, bamba, wagner(s)

dim kettle
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That's why we only won 14 games so far

honest umbra
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need em all healthy

dim kettle
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I just want an superstar on my team damnit. lol

celest zephyr
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magic have too many young guards

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fultz, cole anthony, hampton, suggs

honest umbra
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and young bigs too lol

rustic ore
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Magic hands down have to have the youngest roster in the league

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Fingers crossed the coaching staff can develop them and that they learn to gel as a unit

dim kettle
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I'm hoping so badly that someone like a Franz can become the real deal.

celest zephyr
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defence offence and goalie

dim kettle
celest zephyr
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and tom wilson scored twice on the leafs

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SANDIN

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leafs win 5-3

chilly flare
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Ja Morant KizaruYes

haughty moss
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he went crazy

celest zephyr
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Ja went off

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Scottie Barnes agenda is going

chilly flare
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I just feel like every game he has an incredible highlight

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Must watch TV

rustic ore
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MLB ^

chilly flare
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They better not compromise on the owners treating minor leagues like dog water

dim kettle
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Literally gonna be up all night waiting for this damn lockout to end.

dim kettle
dim kettle
dim ledge
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This....reminds me of something

short spindle
simple seal
celest zephyr
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huh? didn't they blow out the nets

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and i mean without kyrie, KD and ben its just nice to blow out a team after getting their shit kicked in two games in a row

haughty moss
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that’s what he’s saying

celest zephyr
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sure but brooklyn with no one there is whatever

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like they have some decent guys but its a borderline nba team at that point

haughty moss
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teams don’t care they’ll use any win as fuel to feel good lol

celest zephyr
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eh i mean idk if blowing a lead and barely winning would feel good

dim kettle
versed forge
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Tuff season for lakers

celest zephyr
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so lakers misery is the cryptocurrency now huh

haughty moss
celest zephyr
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at this point the jaguars are like a fourth rate organization

dim kettle
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Jagoffs

robust grotto
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I’ll be honest I don’t hate it

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If the owner feels comfortable with 2 guys leading the way then so be it, that’s his right. There is no special formula to this shit. If he feels a 3rd person could upset any dynamic or direction then it is what it is. I don’t view not having an executive VP as 4th rate

versed forge
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Little late but im excited for this 🔥

dim kettle
robust grotto
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But that’s not for me and you to say, you know? How don’t we know that Pederson can handle being an executive

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I agree though that being a HC doesn’t translate to anything in that kind of role. 100%

sweet tree
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flipping hell

dim ledge
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Fuck me

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Footy supermax

sweet tree
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Messi's contract was like 70M net iirc, 140m gross. Mbappe when he's older could probably surpass that tbh lol. Would be crazy to not accept that contract honestly

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he could always make the Madrid move later, no way he turns that down.

burnt cedar
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Mbappe should ask to be player manager

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Or ask for shares

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PSG will do anything to keep him

sweet tree
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he recently matched Ibra's goalscoring record for PSG the other day, is now like under 50 goals to beat Cavani's all time goal record for PSG.

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if he renews he'll surely beat it

chilly flare
short spindle
robust grotto
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Champions League is over !! We have a winner my friends !

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Rögle with their first ever appearance in the tournament win the champions league. What a story

unborn sandal
robust grotto
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Hey @dim ledge

2 NYR prospects are officially champions league winners 🤓

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( neither in the photo, just wanted to show off their logo )

dim kettle
dim kettle
dim kettle
robust grotto
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He’s right. ^^

dim kettle
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You know it's inevitable. Bolts need more Ranger prospect goodness.

robust grotto
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Can’t take them if we don’t name them captain first

dim kettle
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One day the Flyers will realize he is not an NHL caliber defenseman.

robust grotto
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I’d even go as far as saying that Risto is borderline impossible for Philly to trade. They’ll never get back even a quarter of what they sent out lmao no one is breaking the bank for 2-3 months of fucking Risto

dim kettle
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That's gonna be something I'm gonna laugh at for years. The Flyers traded for Ristolainen!

robust grotto
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If they got him for Hagg and a 3rd or something then it’s like.. alright, it’s not god awful. But this ??? Even if neither of those players work for Buffalo, it’ll still be highway robbery. Times that by 10 if Philly cuts him off this month lol. 2 sets of magic beans ( draft picks ) that are both in the top 64. Just absolutely nonsense

dim kettle
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I can already tell this decade is gonna be "special" for Philly.

robust grotto
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The longer Chuck Fletcher is the GM the worse it’ll get

dim kettle
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The Flyers have to trade Claude Giroux if they want a future.

robust grotto
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They will but they’ll wait until the last few days before deadline

dim kettle
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Because Flyers, yeah.

robust grotto
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Nahhh I actually support this reason

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Barring injury or suspension; he’s on pace to hit game 1000 against Nashville like a few days before the deadline. Not too many players hit 1K with one team

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I totally get it, I actually think Giroux himself is pushing for that. Team at least owes it to him to let him reach that milestone

dim kettle
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The fact that Giroux is gonna have 1k games played already in the NHL. 🧓

robust grotto
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Crazy lol

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I def agree with that logic though. God knows when or if the Flyers will ever get another moment like that again

dim kettle
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The ways things are going, have fun being with the Devils in forgotten mediocrity land for a decade, Philly.

robust grotto
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It’s unreal that they’ve literally gone our whole lifetimes without a stable goalie. Hart is the closest thing and he was buns last year

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Roman Cechmanek, Ray Emery were sorta close too

dim kettle
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Hart really looked like a stud in 2019, man. Thought the Flyers were gonna be Finals contenders. And then none of that shit happened.

robust grotto
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Had nhl gone to the Olympics, he would’ve been primed to be the starter, or at worst backup, for Canada 💀

dim kettle
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The Flyers the last decade would get 1 or 2 key players and then draft nothing but busts that you'd trade for scraps 4 years later.

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Nolan Patrick get's selected with the second pick in the 2017 draft and nothing ever happened with him. Meanwhile, Nick Suzuki was on the board.

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Oops

robust grotto
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Looking at their history and the common theme is they don’t hit after the second round. Also, 2016 first rounder German Rubtsov only as 4 GP. It’s 2022… if he’s still in the AHL then that’s a bust

dim kettle
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This is just sad to look at.

robust grotto
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Don’t look at number 7, don’t do it

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No but.. yeah Patrick has far and away been one of the biggest misses in recent NHL memory

dim kettle
robust grotto
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Lowkey… worked for us

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The kid we took is a decent prospect putting up solid numbers in his OHL team. He was on the Canada WJC team too before that was cancelled. Andersson has 13 GP this year in LA of all places, so at least we moved on. Happens

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Also for that 2017, nothing against Nico but with revisionist history Devils should’ve taken Miro first.

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Colorado with absolute big brain move with fucking Makar man. AJHL I wanna say is Alberta Junior ?? That’s not even WHL lol, that’s so unorthodox to pick a talent from that league at 4 overall

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Alert 🚨 alert 🚨 @dim ledge

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Spurs are minutes away from losing to Middlesbrough

robust grotto
dim kettle
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Keep telling yourself that Rob.

robust grotto
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I feel awful for all you hardcore baseball fans in this server

dim kettle
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... I just want to watch Rays/White Sox baseball, Manfred

versed forge
dim kettle
versed forge
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Manfred is actually killing his own sport, why does he have to be so greedy..

warm kestrel
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MLB, the owners, and the players have failed to agree to a new Collective Bargaining Agreement, and as a result, Commissioner Rob Manfred has cancelled the first two regular season series (5-7 games) for the upcoming season which was supposed to begin on March 31st.

dim ledge
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@robust grotto

robust grotto
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Lads eeees de history of Tottenham

robust grotto
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This is an invite to any baseball fan here to become a hockey fan 🙂 we’ll teach you anything you guys need to know

wet onyx
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never seen anyone say marvin harrison is the goat of wr before, very bizarre list this guy has

dim kettle
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robust grotto
dim kettle
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Didn't even notice the Bolts had signed this Bennett MacArthur till now lol

robust grotto
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I’d add Ross Colton to that list too

honest umbra
dim kettle
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Yeah, DJ isn't getting younger.

honest umbra
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which.. one

dim kettle
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Yes.

honest umbra
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touche

dim kettle
robust grotto
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Larger bases ?!?!

honest umbra
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why larger bases?

robust grotto
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Banning shift isn’t a bad idea tbh. no different than offsides or something

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But yeah lmao why larger bases, wtf. When was that an issue

honest umbra
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i think u create a huge thing banning shift

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is there a specific "spot" everyone must stay in?

robust grotto
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Yes, make it no different than an offsides for football

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Shortstop can’t pass the 2nd base for example. Benefits the hitter, who no longer has to worry about it, and benefits the fans by having another at bat that won’t end in a likely easy out

honest umbra
robust grotto
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Mhm

honest umbra
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what about outfield?

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how do measure it vertically

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can they move up and down

chilly flare
celest zephyr
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manfred trying to speedrun being the most disliked commissioner in sports

robust grotto
honest umbra
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look what baseball shutdown is doing for the sport you love @robust grotto

robust grotto
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❤️❤️❤️

honest umbra
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btw kings lost 0-7 last night

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LOL

robust grotto
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The more people that watches hockey, the better

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LMAO

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I’m sorry fam. I legit was like pfffft Boston stinks

chilly flare
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I don’t think the outfield shift is that much of an issue tbh

honest umbra
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nah it happens

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u take a 5 W streak and a 0-7 loss anyday

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though it is concerning

robust grotto
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As long as they can take care of teams in the west, those losses again eastern teams can be shrugged off

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Luckily they have two really bad teams in the division too in Seattle and San Jose

celest zephyr
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5-1-1 with a .960 save%

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pacific division also sucks they'll be fine

dim kettle
celest zephyr
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boston isn't that good but they still have quality players on the team. just not a very deep team

chilly flare
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The tv blackout stuff too

robust grotto
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Blackouts are annoying but I understand why they have them. It’s to push people to watch on their local network. The local network makes revenue off of commercials that are played during the game. If blackouts went out, more people would just skip watching it on their local channels

celest zephyr
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happens in the nba also

robust grotto
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NHL too

celest zephyr
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yeh its just part of broadcasting

robust grotto
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Yup, everyone gets a slice of the pie. Local channels need the commercial revenue

chilly flare
dim kettle
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Every sport has this problem. But the blackouts is gonna become a big problem if it isn't already is. Let me tell you from my perspective. Here in the Florida area we have Bally Sports Sun and Bally Sports Florida. Well, if you don't have cable, you're not getting those channels. Dish, Youtube TV, Hulu, Sling, you can't get those channels.

burnt cedar
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Cain probably the last guy you wanna mess with

celest zephyr
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Yeah

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I literally couldn't believe what I was reading

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oh wow, didn't know the backstory

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about the abusing of a family member.

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Well shit, kudos to him than. 😂

chilly flare
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Lol

dim kettle
burnt cedar
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Reports are saying it was his child at a daycare

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But haven’t seen anyone credible confirm it

robust grotto
celest zephyr
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honestly, it might morally be wrong but I don't blame his reaction than.

robust grotto
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It’s all connected and it’s all annoying. Networks work with cable corporations to get people to sign up. No joke, football ( soccer ) fans in England have it much worse. They have like 3 different subscriptions. there’s rules there that 3 PM games can’t be telecasted on national broadcast so you have to pay for a sports channel to watch

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At least here, with NFL only though, it’s all on national TV ( minus Thursday now bc of Amazon )

dim kettle
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It feels like local radio sports broadcasts are more assessable than the local TV ones to people.

robust grotto
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Zero debate bc it’s free

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whereas to watch the Rangers I have to pay for a cable service that has MSG in their system. All connected

dim kettle
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I remember when YES was taken off of Comcast like 6-7 years ago. I know because my uncle wouldn't stop bitching about missing Yankee games.

robust grotto
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HAHAHAHAH

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They would have YES in Florida

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That’s actually hilarious, I didn’t know that

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Or had, rather

dim kettle
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No, they're up in Jersey

robust grotto
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Ohhhhhh oh oh I was about to say

dim kettle
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Although, I wouldn't be surprised if it was down here if the Rays or Marlins didn't exist.

robust grotto
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Yeah comcast just lost MSG earlier this year. I don’t think I know anyone that has Comcast actually

dim kettle
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I wouldn't think it would be up in North Jersey. I think it's more of a South Jersey thing.

robust grotto
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It’s all Verizon up here. And honestly I’m a bit surprised now that I think about it. I feel like YES would make money if they marketed themselves in Florida

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1000% bc Philly is still Comcast heavy

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Good point. Your fam is from south jersey ?

dim kettle
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My uncle is. But my other aunts and family are North Jersey NEW YORK! peeps.

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I just happened my parents went down to Florida before I was born.

robust grotto
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Gotcha

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Lol it really is like two different states but I’m sure every state has similar divides

dim kettle
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I know one thing though. It's taylor ham! Not pork roll!

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BTW they actually sell that here.

dim kettle
haughty moss
celest zephyr
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Nah that might be the craziest thing i’ve ever heard lmaooo

haughty moss
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Another lousy half by the Lakers yay

versed forge
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Yeah 2nd half is gonna be worse for them

celest zephyr
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lakers actually showing up so far

versed forge
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Yep i take back what i said

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2nd half comeback for the lakers 👀

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Up by 2 pts end of 3rd

haughty moss
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🙃🙃

silk notch
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that was just terrible at the end

versed forge
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Dang that 4th qt was fun to watch

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Lots of fouls though

celest zephyr
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wow doncic was clanking 3's

versed forge
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Yeah he’s nuts

celest zephyr
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he's a damn good player but he has to get his 3point percentage up

haughty moss
versed forge
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Felt like they gave up at the end

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Lakers didn’t do as bad as I thought

silk notch
haughty moss
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tired of it 💀

bitter rover
dim kettle
celest zephyr
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meh some teams are only interested in just being decent for a few years

wet onyx
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😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻

robust grotto
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@celest zephyr

burnt cedar
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Roman selling

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Chelsea are lucky they’ve got a foundation and structure around the club

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Best youth academy in England + loads of valuable players

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If they didn’t have this could see them crashing

trim aurora
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What a legend

wet onyx
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going to my first day of work tomorrow 😼

celest zephyr
silk notch
burnt cedar
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Mount, Christiansen, CHO, Reece James

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Chalobah

silk notch
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Well chelsea fans be saying cho ass but I didnt realize chalobab was from the academy

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That's actually a decent amount

dim ledge
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TAKI TIME TAKI TIME TAKI TIME

celest zephyr
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KD return tomorrow

dim kettle
honest umbra
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@dim ledge u wanna buy chelsea?

dim ledge
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No

honest umbra
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i need an oiler to help me invest

celest zephyr
honest umbra
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i mean

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thats true

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now if we're including westbrook

celest zephyr
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with the current iteration of the team nah

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but yeh its possible with an optimized team around them

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window is pretty small though. bron is getting old

honest umbra
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i think bron being old is exaggerated, hes still playing at an elite level

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but the team composition itself isnt that great

versed forge
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Bron himself is a great player, imo one of the best players in the league, he just needs to work more with the team if the lakers want to win games.

honest umbra
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bro

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he went to bench last night

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and they just gave up 7 straight shots

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they were down 15 in the 3rd, he willed them back

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thats just one occurrence, its happened all szn

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lebron can "work" around his team all he wants but they cant rebound, space, or even defend well

versed forge
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That’s true

honest umbra
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dude westbrook was 2-12 end of 3rd last night and lakers were up 1

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idek how thats possible

celest zephyr
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he still is but he's also 37

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can't be dependent on a guy approaching 40 in the nba

honest umbra
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i think a enter number here in sports is becoming more arbitrary by the day as medicine has progressed so much

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dude has spent over a million on his body for the last 20 years

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lebron has far more tax on his body than brady but still, you can do a lot

robust grotto
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Jagr is still playing pro hockey at 50

honest umbra
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yea that dude's just cold

versed forge
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Damn

robust grotto
versed forge
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Whoa

robust grotto
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My favorite Jagr moment was when he slept with this 20 something year old girl and she took a selfie to try to blackmail him to make money with and he literally didn’t care 😭😭

rustic ore
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What a Chad

robust grotto
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He’s legitimately gigachad. He also owns the team that he plays for rn in Czechia. Imagine being his teammate… not only is he a hockey legend or a czech icon.. but dude is also your boss 😂

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Fun fact; Jagr’s favorite player is.. Jagr

celest zephyr
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more of the lakers have to reduce his workload though

celest zephyr
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sandin again

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leafs GA has gone to the shadow realm

celest zephyr
south nebula
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fgbfhjmk

dim kettle
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The Rangers really gave up 3 goals in under 2 minutes.

celest zephyr
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fire mrazek into the sun

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Can’t believe the backup goalie is also a guy who is hot and cold

dim kettle
celest zephyr
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Hey at this point both teams point to the other and say at least we aren’t them

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And it’s not like the leafs aren’t very high on they list of factories of sadness

dim kettle
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The Leafs aren't run like the walking definition of insanity the Sabres are.

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The Leafs just have a lot of bad luck. The Sabres are just total dog shit

celest zephyr
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Fair enough

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And I mean after several failures in a row it’s got to make their own luck

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Plus the leafs have persistent issues such as being soft, lackluster goaltending and defense, being hit and miss on if guys like matthews and marner show up

dim kettle
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Would be nice for the Leafs to have that game changer defense man. But it's also a coaching and a Matthews turning into the hockey version of James Harden in the playoffs problem.

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Like, if things don't change soon, we'd be calling him Elimination Matthews.

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And of course. Marner the Friendly Ghost

rustic ore
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Now hopefully AEW adds a 3rd show so people can stop complaining about a bloated roster

celest zephyr
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he was a superstar in the playoffs last year

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if he can not be afraid of firing on net in the playoffs this year, he'll give the leafs a shot in the way matthews and marner should be capable of doing

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rielly is the emboidment of the leafs. good enough to be a playoff team caliber 1st d man not good enough to be a contender caliber 1st d man

celest zephyr
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huh wish that happened here lol

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terrible defense combined with equally bad goaltending = sieve on defence

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When the habs score 5 goals, the red wings 7 and the sabres 5 also in the span of 7 games

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yeah that's uhh something.

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in other news playing down to their competition

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or more aptly playing so ass that someone who has just seen the game thinks the other team is playing down to their competition and/or isn't bad

dim kettle
rustic ore
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Damn

celest zephyr
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its 3 years 3.8 mill

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man this really is the oilers level of desparation

dim kettle
celest zephyr
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eh its the usual playdown-or worse than inferior competition and play up to better competition

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in other news this team will shit the bed in the playoffs like the steelers a few years ago

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HIGH END TALENT

dim kettle
dim ledge
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Easily the part I hate most about American sports

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The commentators here are so bad in comparison to literally anyone I've heard commentate footy matches

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From any country

dull sedge
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its so simple but hilarious

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have you listened to indian commentary?

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LMFAO

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lemme link something

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fuckin thumbnail LMFAO

dim ledge
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Closest I've gotten is rantman

dull sedge
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early rantman was hilarious

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now he's just eh

dim ledge
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Yeah I agree

dull sedge
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YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED

dim ledge
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He had this while meltdown on twitter

dull sedge
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hilarious stuff

dim ledge
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BC people were criticising him for not giving his housemaid time off

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Since that I have a negative opinion on him but he's still kinda funny lol

dull sedge
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i think its par for course, any content creator with the same shtick is gonna wear off

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and he's very egregious so its just tiring

dim ledge
dull sedge
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LMAO

dim ledge
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OUR DEFENSE IS HAVING WIFI PINCODE 1234

dull sedge
paper spire
burnt cedar
burnt cedar
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If we ain’t in it then neither should Atletico

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Talking in terms of size and history

dull sedge
#

well, england won a cricket world cup tho

paper spire
celest zephyr
#

this is an actual screenshot from a hockey game played by a playoff team

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wtf is going on here. mrazek somehow is so far out that he might as well not be called a goalie and the defence just leaves a guy wide open with at least 3 maybe 4 guys close enough to contest

dim kettle
#

Missed assignments. Missed assignments EVERYWHERE!

lethal blaze
#

@dim ledge players gonna start dropping like flies

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100 games

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When u try to fix something that isn't broken

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along with actual leagues 💀goodbye to healthy lives for players

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And domestic cups

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💀

dim kettle
# celest zephyr

Also, can someone please hand Mrazek a map or something. He seems to be imitating Zoro with navigation there.

lethal blaze
#

Bruh imagine domestic cups, international cups, cl, domestic leagues nahhhhhhhhhh

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Done out here

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💀

#

150+ games a yr

robust grotto
sweet tree
sweet tree
burnt cedar
#

Just gonna get worse

sweet tree
#

true

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I still don't like that idea

celest zephyr
burnt cedar
#

Looking at the 2026 World Cup and they’re aiming to do groups of 3 with 48 teams

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What’s the point

#

Assuming only the 1st place teams go through

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Way too much luck involved in that

sweet tree
#

I think what wenger proposed was having less international breaks / games, in return for a world cup every 2 years iirc. I would assume they would scrap Euros / CA if that was the case.

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and only have world cup qualifiers lol

#

I still don't like the idea

burnt cedar
#

They should just never have created things like nation leagues

sweet tree
#

yeah, p pointless honestly

burnt cedar
#

Continental cups would most likely be the only chance some teams can play in tournaments

#

The African and Asian qualifying phases are practically hell

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Already

sweet tree
#

very true, only few can qualify for the WC lol

burnt cedar
#

Only one of Mane and Salah will be at the World Cup

#

Despite playing each other in the afcon final

dim kettle
celest zephyr
#

someone has to pass lol

#

plus ben simmons shooting 3's would be a miserable thing to watch

#

not sure i'd want to see westbrook levels of bricking

sweet tree
#

proper thugs

#

ESL looking better than ever

dim kettle
#

People are really making excuses for Wentz.

#

Like, If you're comparing the Bills' defeat to the Jags to the one Colts had against them in week 18 you're missing the point in all this. Carson Wents, when it mattered most. When given the chance to show he could lead his team into the playoffs against the team who ended up with the number one pick. He played like fucking doo doo.

celest zephyr
#

i mean objectively who's a clear upgrade on the market

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wentz isn't the guy but who is that the colts can get

dim kettle
#

Honestly, it's the Colts fault for trying to compete with the likes of Rivers and Wentz instead of getting a young QB.

celest zephyr
#

yeah they should go for that

#

young QBs often don't pan out though so it is risky

dim kettle
#

98% of playoff and SB teams within the history of the NFL start with the QB they drafted.

#

You may get the Brees' of the world. But you look at any successful franchisee. It all starts with getting your guy in the draft.

celest zephyr
#

wentz was a bad choice in the first place

#

2021 qb draft had talented guys in it

#

this draft looks like a crapshoot with no clear prospects that are worth taking

dim kettle
#

Wentz was a gamble and the Colts lost. They're just a QB away from being a SB contender and the Colts front office is still hurting from the Luck saga.

#

Maybe next time you shouldn't be careless with a franchise QB

celest zephyr
#

being just a QB away is nice but hard to find the right guy

#

a lot more other positions i'd rather be a guy away from

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plus paying a good team and not having the right qb for years is expensive and if guys leave then its having to retool/ reset all over again

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49ers are like that. a QB away but with how long lance will take to develop very likely going to need to build parts of the team back up if he even pans out in like 3-4 years

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the colts also haven't won much lately. hard to convince guys to stay for long if the team can't back it up with any meaningful success

dim kettle
#

Your foundation always have to start with the QB otherwise nothing else matters. Period. The Niners drafted Lance for long term success. It doesn't matter who leaves or stays on the team moving forward the roster should be built around the QB not the other way around.

celest zephyr
#

yep

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colts have taken too long to realize that

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old man rivers and wentz aren't going to cut it

dim kettle
#

This is why I kept pushing for Lance to start last season. Because you have to know if he's the guy and what he needs in his roster. You go into year 2 and still don't know what he needs to be better.

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Honestly, the Colts were not getting a QB in the 2020 draft. They were a little too good to get a top 5 pick.

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And really the only QB would've been Jordan Love for them. ugh.

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And they didn't even have a 1st round pick.

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Ironically, the Niners had that pick and that pick was traded to the Bucs to get Tristan Wirfs.

robust grotto
dim kettle
#

And of course Tampa get's screwed again. smh

#

It get's cold here. Sometimes, not quite, not most of the time, one month.

robust grotto
#

You guys just played in one last weekend

#

Thought I think you deserve a WC at some point

dim kettle
#

I just want one in Tampa though. lol

robust grotto
#

Lol I feel that, where would it be? RayJay?

dim kettle
#

Yes. Fire the cannons at a Bolts game just sounds too good.

robust grotto
#

Yeah I agree, that would be a good move

#

I can’t believe they chose fucking Fenway again with Philly as the opponent.. again

#

they should flex Philly out after the season they are having

dim kettle
#

OG 6 teams are overrated af to be frank. I wish the NHL would stop treating them like they're above everyone else

#

Boston or Detriot, etc always get one of them by default.

wet onyx
robust grotto
#

Sigh

wet onyx
#

gotta love shep

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blake is taking a huge pay cut too

robust grotto
#

that would be nice for the giants but Shep gets injured all the time, not sure how useful he’d be

#

Blake is good though, hopefully that happens

wet onyx
#

a pay cut is a pay cut

robust grotto
#

Sure - I’d rather upgrade personally but easier said than done

wet onyx
#

i love shep and i’d wanna keep him if i can

robust grotto
#

Also I agree. No reason for Boston to have this again so soon

wet onyx
#

although now the boat picture curse could still be a thing

dim kettle
#

The fact that the Giants sucked so badly and were over the cap. Like, how the fuck does something like that happen?

wet onyx
#

gettleterrorist

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gettleman is literally one of the worst gms i’ve ever seen

dim kettle
#

The fact that the Giants allowed Gettleman to retire instead of firing him shows how much the Giants ownership are spineless cowards.

wet onyx
#

i could not care less about that, all i care about is that he is in a retirement home instead of 1925 Giants Drive

robust grotto
#

It happened because management was desperate to be relevant and quick. Yes, Gettleman fumbled the plot, but Mara had to approve every single signing and draft pick as well

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Gettleman went fishing with money and picks that were green lighted by Mara. Mara said yes to Saquon, to Jackrabbit, to Vernon, to Solder. Both just ruined the organization without even knowing

wet onyx
#

now it seems like we’re in really good hands with schoen

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so far anyway

robust grotto
#

too early to me to say anything but I can only hope that’s the case

wet onyx
#

anything from this is an improvement

dim kettle
#

It's not all bad for them. 2 first round picks. Unfortunately, you're still in a situation where you regret picking Barkely over a Josh Allen a few years back.

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Like, this QB class doens't look good.

wet onyx
#

honestly i like malik willis, i don’t think we should pick him but i do like him

robust grotto
#

I’d much rather suffer another year than go for QB. Just get edge rusher and o line, please

wet onyx
#

there’s a very large chance that oline isn’t gonna be possible

robust grotto
#

This team cannot sack the QB to save their lives

wet onyx
#

well ickey and the other guy

robust grotto
#

You know much much much more than I do tbh

#

so that sucks to hear can’t lie

wet onyx
#

but on the bright side

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if we can’t get icky or neal we will probably get thibodeaux

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neal is a reach though

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if we draft linderbaum at 5 or 7 i will lose it

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in a perfect world we get thibodeaux at 5 and icky at 7

#

how realistic that is, idk

dim kettle
#

IDK why the Giants would still want to see another year of Danny Derps. In his 3 years in the league what have you seen that indicates that this new regime what want anything to do with him for even one season? Yeah, he makes a lot of great throws, but he also makes a lot of shitty ones.

wet onyx
dim kettle
#

Pretty much.

wet onyx
#

if we draft qb with our pick our organization is a joke for life

dim kettle
#

They always say picking the wrong guy at QB would set your organization back 5 years

wet onyx
#

next year there should be plenty of good quarterbacks to choose from, don’t rush into things by taking a half assed qb now

robust grotto
#

I think it’s just because the giants are stuck in a corner. Like their options are to trade assets for a QB, draft a qb in a bad class like you said, or use cap space to sign a starter

wet onyx
#

i think we should sign mitch trubisky tbh

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at the very least he’d be a solid backup

#

he could be a starter in the nfl imo

dim kettle
#

I can honestly argue Mitch Trubisky would be the better option. Because at least Mitch won't turn the ball over as much as a Danny Derps.

wet onyx
#

you are truly a danny dimes hater

sweet tree
#

this betis rayo game jesus

wet onyx
#

but i do agree that mitch would be better most likely

dim kettle
wet onyx
#

mitch is the best NVP the world has ever seen

dim kettle
#

The OG NVP

wet onyx
#

i really do like mitch though and i would want him if we could get him

robust grotto
#

I’d sign Mitch but still start Jones to be super mega ultra tank commander

honest umbra
robust grotto
#

We definitely need a better backup at the minimum

wet onyx
#

glennon isn’t cutting it no mo🗣🗣

sweet tree
#

rayo scored near the end of the game, was gonna head to ET if it stayed like that... then Betis scored in the final mins. they're close to going to the cup final

dim kettle
#

The Giants first 3rd down of the year will be a QB sneak on 3rd and 9.

robust grotto
#

Glennon and Fromm was a disaster class from literal hell

wet onyx
#

super bowl bound

robust grotto
#

Giants Jets super bowl 2023 baby

wet onyx
#

battle of who’s worse

robust grotto
#

Jets would win

wet onyx
#

alright i hate my team as much as the next guy but lets not lie

robust grotto
#

Oh no I’m dead serious

wet onyx
#

oh i am too

robust grotto
#

If jets and giants played right now jets would def beat us

wet onyx
#

the jets don’t have anything going for them

#

minus a player or two

#

we’re not much better but we’re better

sweet tree
#

Betis vs Valencia CDR final, nice match up

robust grotto
#

… yeah I can’t argue that lmao

wet onyx
#

at least we have a few players with some superstar potential

#

mckinney

#

toney

#

azeez

#

the jets don’t got anything really

#

the wr looks good

dim kettle
robust grotto
#

Dude I would love for that to be a super bowl matchup in our lifetime. Legit the whole country wouldn’t care 😭😂

dim kettle
#

The Giants and Jets share the same factory of sadness.

robust grotto
#

Buffalo fans would be seething

wet onyx
#

don’t matter who they’re going against

robust grotto
#

“ they’re not really New York’s team !! “ 😡

wet onyx
#

you know who they lost to in the super bowl😏

dim kettle
robust grotto
#

“ you guys play in JeRSeY!!l

honest umbra
#

where is new jersey?

wet onyx
#

damn near the whole nfc east beat the bills in the super bowl

#

except the eagles

dim kettle
#

Bron to the Magic confirmed

#

Or G League

elfin cairn
#

I am very happy with the sixers getting Harden

#

I think we will be really good now

honest umbra
#

he been looking good?

elfin cairn
#

Yeah, pretty good. I was a fan of Curry so at first i was upset about losing him but i think its a good trade

honest umbra
#

yea seth curry is a good player

#

i think both teams benefitted from the trade

elfin cairn
#

Yeah for sure

#

Simmons gotta be the biggest bum in the league

honest umbra
#

i do agree what he did was dumb

#

but he was limited from the start and was still an all star for PHI

#

it must have been frustrating to watch but man, having a whole city shit on you

#

i can understand

elfin cairn
#

Sure if a while city was shitting on me i wouldnt be happy either

honest umbra
#

hardens reputation for sustained longevity in a "good" mood in a city also isnt that great

#

i kinda want them to play MIA/MIL

#

i think embiid/harden are a good fit but i just wanna see some tough match ups

elfin cairn
#

Im gon be going to a PHI/MIL game at the end of the month. Should be fun

honest umbra
#

think LAL also play PHI later this month, wanted to go to that

robust grotto
#

Lightning broadcast fell for a fake trade tweet

robust grotto
#

smh damn that’s kinda embarrassing

dim kettle
rustic ore
#

Not a 4.26, he got off before the clock moved, should've been made to redo it

celest zephyr
honest umbra
#

i got a black kupp sb jersey btw yall

#

so excited for it to arrive

wet onyx
#

wait did someone just break the 40 time

robust grotto
dim kettle
honest umbra
# dim kettle

im gonna love wearing this to the stadium next year

#

i wear all black anyways

versed forge
#

That jersey look clean 👀🔥

wet onyx
robust grotto
rustic ore
#

Told y'all that wasn't a 4.26

#

4.39 is still fantastic though

haughty moss
#

ye still fast

dim kettle
rustic ore
#

Yup

honest umbra
#

and he would be proven right

dim kettle
strange sinew
#

have you guys seen this?

honest umbra
#

Yes

#

Makes no sense

dim ledge
#

yeah just let all the players in europe get fatigued by November, nbd

#

great job UEFA

dim kettle
wanton pumice
celest zephyr
#

Ayy nice to see some JP high school baseball prop

simple seal
#

Raptors just cant beat the Pistons lol

wet onyx
#

damn bro malik balled out at the combine

rustic ore
#

I love Willis as a prospect

#

Reminds me so much of Russ coming out

#

If he falls into the right situation he's gonna turn into a stud

simple seal
#

Must have loved the early to mid 2000s then

celest zephyr
celest zephyr
celest zephyr
# dim kettle

with obviously fake snow that's just finely shreaded paper

wet onyx
#

future steeler kenny pickett

burnt cedar
#

Crazy man RIP

sweet smelt
#

What bro this is shocking

#

RIP 🙏

robust grotto
#

That’s really interesting. We still have 2 full weeks but in recent years, last year especially, teams made sure to get things done days prior to the deadline. If teams today are really looking for more time, then we could be in for a good deadline where lots of action happens in a short span

dim kettle
versed forge
wet onyx
#

well fortunate for me anyway

versed forge
#

Lmao true

#

Unfortunate for cowboy fans i mean

#

🤠

wet onyx
#

they’re going insane on twitter

versed forge
#

Yeah i bet

wet onyx
#

and i am so here for it

celest zephyr
#

the cowboys need competent coaching more

dim ledge
#

Awful man

strange sinew
celest zephyr
#

teams that need recievers and probably would have to trade to get him

rustic ore
#

@rustic mountain

haughty moss
#

no surprise there

dim kettle
rustic mountain
#

He helped get us a ring in super bowl 53 and he and Gilmore made one of the best duos we ever had. Will miss JC

haughty moss
#

Yup pretty much

wet onyx
#

first day at my first job😳kinda nervous

robust grotto
#

You got this dude 💪

rustic ore
burnt cedar
#

What he could do with the ball was insane

honest umbra
#

insane

#

talented as a bowler

honest umbra
#

we doing march madness? @rustic ore

rustic ore
#

I'm not a huge basketball guy but I can try my best

#

So I'd be down with doing a bracket with you

honest umbra
#

less go

#

dont even gotta be a basketball guy

#

it just makes u a bit more invested

dim kettle
celest zephyr
#

technically murray is also at home so lol

#

hard to disagree especially with moving screens

#

0 step i don't like either

#

travels and moving screens don't get called enough. i don't see the point of calling a moving screen foul unless its blatant since it happens all the damn time

#

its like holding. why call it if it happens so often that there wouldn't be afootball game anymore with the amount of penalties

#

either call it every time its seen so people stop doing it or don't bother

dim kettle
#

The game is evolving, the problem is the rules on paper still haven't.

#

Like, if it is evolving, then change the rules.

#

Scratch that QB away part. More like an owner away from being great.

celest zephyr
#

yeah for sure

#

i mean they definitely need a qb also

#

but yea they'll never win with snyder and his family as owners

#

should have been told to sell the damn team. he's been exposed for so much that its absurd that he still owns the team

#

also the nfl needs to have rules on the quality of a stadium

#

if its in terrible condition like fedex field then the team has to be forced to fix it and if it can't be fixed then demolish it/repurpose it and get a new one

simple seal
#

The main example was that the rule book stated that sliding into the 2nd baseman to difficult a double play should be interference and thus the batter would be out at first no matter where the 2nd baseman throw ended up

#

Back then and for decades that rule was never enforced lol

#

I feel is the same with travels and carries, has to be egregious to be called nowadays, but that's the way most players play so

dim kettle
honest umbra
#

what 2 teams?

rustic ore
smoky fable
dim kettle
#

Ah, Monster. You have returned.

smoky fable
#

Yeah I returned from my sabbatical

#

Seems a lot of things happened

dim kettle
#

No baseball. BepoSad

smoky fable
dim kettle
#

That's an understatement.

#

No good faith from the owners and Manfred whatsoever

smoky fable
dim kettle
#

The lockout sped up the inevitable, I suppose.

smoky fable
#

it did.

rustic ore
#

If the players are going this far then I hope they stay committed, best get this out of the way now then later

wet onyx
#

this day is hell

smoky fable
smoky fable
dim kettle
#

I'm hoping Franz becomes the guy for us.

smoky fable
#

He looks solid.

dim kettle
#

Thanks, Chicago.

smoky fable
# dim kettle *Thanks, Chicago.*

I mean they are pseudo contenders potentially in the East regarding the Bulls. Even with their guards being hurt in Ball and caruso.

dim kettle
#

They have a short window to be frank though. Franz could become a key component if the Magic become contenders in the future for the long term.

smoky fable
#

Can't bet on location like LA or Miami.

dim kettle
#

I have no faith in FA. No one wants to come to Orlando.

#

I could hope and pray for the number one pick again. But it's always locked that we're going to pick 5th-6th every time.

smoky fable
rustic ore
smoky fable
#

hmmmm.

#

That's an important player for them.

rustic ore
#

They better not pull some cap voodoo again and re-sign him

dim kettle
rustic ore
#

I'm happy they got burned by letting Hendrickson walk, would like to see it again with Williams

smoky fable
#

Eh also, you think a running back running 4.72 in the 40 yard dash is a killer? Cause that's what Kyren Williams did. @rustic ore

rustic ore
#

Probably tanked his stock I would guess

#

Interviews I would imagine are the bigger thing than work outs though imo

smoky fable
#

That is true.

rustic ore
#

So we'll see what happens to him

smoky fable
#

This oline and wide receiver class is probably the strength though.

#

My favorite wide receiver christian watson is probably gone in the 2nd

rustic ore
#

Also Kenneth Walker III running a 4.46 👀

smoky fable
#

Damn. I liked him, but that stock just skyrocketed.

rustic ore
#

Oh yeah Watson killed it

smoky fable
rustic ore
#

6'5 and runs a 4.3? That's Megatron-esque

smoky fable
#

Pickett is going to fall with that hand size, speaking of the combine

dim kettle
#

I'm just imagining a world where Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and Chris Olave are all on the same team. And the one throwing is Kyle Trask.

smoky fable
#

8.5 inch hands is going to be a struggle. And he fumbled the ball at times in the Senior Bowl

rustic ore
#

Heard Willis had a good combine, should be a R1 pick imo

smoky fable
dim kettle
#

A lot of pieces have to be replaced. You have to start somewhere.

smoky fable
#

Also, I don't like Chris Olave compared to the other receivers in this class.

smoky fable
rustic ore
#

Heard that Ali just got engaged to his longtime GF this past week

#

Good for him

smoky fable
#

saw that. Good for him.

rustic ore
#

28 years old, multi millionaire, good person

#

It was a pleasure having him on my fav team

#

Plain good dude

smoky fable
#

He's won a superbowl and can walk away relatively healthy

#

That is great indeed.

rustic ore
#

Gonna miss him for sure

smoky fable
dim kettle
#

Maybe we'll get a Kenyon Green late in the first round.

rustic ore
#

At least Wirfs ultimately didn't need surgery on his ankle, so that's nice

smoky fable
#

That would actually be smart.

smoky fable
#

that's worrisome

rustic ore
#

I'd love to re-sign one of either Cappa or Jensen though

#

Not expecting both back

#

Think Cappa would be cheaper but Jensen is better

smoky fable
#

I'd think they get Cappa back

#

Someone will throw the bag at Jensen

dim kettle
#

Also have to worry about the running back situation. No Rojo, no Lenny.

smoky fable
#

Like the Bengals

rustic ore
#

Yeah, Cincy would be perfect for him

#

Not that I want him to leave mind you

wet onyx
#

two minutes of break left😪

smoky fable
wet onyx
smoky fable
#

The Amari Cooper news was interesting though.

rustic ore
#

But dude is 30 and in his prime, might as well max out that value while he can

smoky fable
#

He'll be a popular target.

smoky fable
rustic ore
#

Could see Cooper go to the Jags, TLaw needs weapons

dim kettle
#

I also think the Bucs need another TE. Brate looked washed last season, Gronk is considering Buffalo again, and OJ is OJ.

rustic ore
#

Bucs have been interviewing a lot of TEs so I'd say safe bet they take one in the draft

#

Think I'd rather just try signing a vet like Ertz or Allie-Cox but BrookShrug

smoky fable
#

They'll probably take one. The Virgina kid or Ruckert from OSU seem like nice players at those spots.

rustic ore
#

I've seen 1 guy with a Kelce comp, good company to keep

smoky fable
#

With all eyes on #Packers QB Aaron Rodgers and his future, here is the latest: Sources say Rodgers is truly torn on where he wants to play in 2022. While many in the NFL expect him to return — there's lots of positivity in Green Bay — he is going back and forth on what he wants.

#

I think he stays

#

Adams too

rustic ore
#

Another one with a Gronk comp from an athletic standpoint

#

They can't afford to keep both

smoky fable
rustic ore
#

Rodgers won't swallow his pride for the betterment of the team and take a big pay cut and Adams wants to be one of the highest paid WRs (deservedly so)

smoky fable
#

Speaking of wide receivers, Beasley also on the trade market. He should get some suitors.

rustic ore
#

Half decent slot guy

#

Kind of a bonehead off it but BrookShrug

smoky fable
#

33 years old will limit him

smoky fable
rustic ore
#

True 330

dim kettle
#

So glad not to have that headcase anymore.

rustic ore
#

Same

#

Just not worth it

#

Helped us get a ring, but better to end things early than late

smoky fable
dim kettle
#

My Brother was at that game too. lol

smoky fable
#

@proud coyote Tough ending for how your Niners ended up in that championship game. Thought they'd win that after upsetting the Packers. But future should be interesting with Lance in now and Jimmy G gone. They lost a crucial coach in Mike McDaniel to Miami though. Do you have any idea how they'll replace him?

proud coyote
#

Well, Anthony Lynn came in

smoky fable
#

Oh yeah that's right.

#

They had a connection with him.

proud coyote
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And will take over running coordinator duties most likely

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That’s like… the main thing he can do lol

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So I’m satisfied with it

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We’ve lost a ton of coaches though, not just McDaniel

smoky fable
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Which ones

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?

dim kettle
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Hopefully Raheem Mostert will last more than one game next season.

smoky fable
proud coyote
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Wes Welker (WR) Embree (assistant coach and TE) went with McDaniel, along with the OL coach

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We lost our assistant OL coach to like Kentucky or something, and he’s gonna be a big head there

smoky fable
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Oh Wes Welker went huh. damn. that's a loss. Liked what he did for Aiyuk.

proud coyote
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Lost a defensive assistant to someone as well

smoky fable
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hmmm. Some shakeups to that coaching staff.

proud coyote
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Probably

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As long as we keep our DL coach all is right

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Kris Kocurek

smoky fable
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Kris Kocurek is a stud for you guys

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yep

proud coyote
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I think we pay him like a DC lol

smoky fable
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At least your Niners have a higher future than the Blazers.

proud coyote
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But whatever makes him stay

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lol

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Ugh

smoky fable
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Oh boy, they are awful.

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That RoCo Norman powell trade was bad.

proud coyote
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We have cap space next year… but there are no meaningful free agents

dim kettle
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Kyle Shanahan is just getting purged this off season.

smoky fable
proud coyote
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They’re taking his tree lol

proud coyote
smoky fable
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You could go after Ayton. He's an RFA though

smoky fable
proud coyote
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Philly has enough for him lol

dim kettle
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Meanwhile the Bucs coaching staff stays the same. Funny how things work.

smoky fable
proud coyote
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Have the Bucs Kyler rumors continued

smoky fable
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He would have poached Adrian Wilson from the Cardinals otherwise.

smoky fable
dim kettle
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BA flat out said getting a QB for multiple 1st round picks is nuts.

proud coyote
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BA says a lot of things tbf

dim kettle
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I feel like Trask will be our QB.

smoky fable
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He admits he's a good liar.

dim kettle
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Just have the feeling.

proud coyote
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That’s probably realistic

smoky fable
proud coyote
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How did Trask look in camp

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I see him as similar to Jimmy

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Who’s probably going to be a steeler

smoky fable
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If Willis wasn't going to go higher, I would have pegged him to go there.

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Or a potential trade up target.

proud coyote
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Yeah, I’ve heard he’s impressing

smoky fable
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Good for him.

rustic ore
# proud coyote How did Trask look in camp

I mean they've been talking him up so far so I would assume he's the favorite to get the job this year, but they've also been talking up Gabbert (lol) so probably gonna try to re-sign him for cheap to be a back up

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BA said this “I’ve got a year with Kyle,” Arians said. “Got to see Kyle every single day, watch him improve those nuances in the pocket, cause he ain’t afraid to stand in there.

“He can really sling it. He got all the throws.”

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This sounds very familiar to me.

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should expect retirement news next year. Maybe Leftwich or Bowles becomes the head coach then.

rustic ore
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I'd guess Leftwich

dim kettle
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Pretty much set and stone that Leftwich will become our next HC. Which I'm so meh on.

rustic ore
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Just cause he's a lot younger than Bowles

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I'm okay with it if so

smoky fable
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Oh I forgot to ask you guys, what'd you think about blitzing stafford and leaving Kupp one on one with the safety Winfield?

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That playcall got a lot of flack from Bowles.

rustic ore
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Hated it but it is what it is

dim kettle
rustic ore
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Didn't deserve to win that game anyways, the Rams literally had to derp after derp to give us a chance

smoky fable
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That's about what I expected from that response.

rustic ore
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I'm just happy it turned into an entertaining game ultimately

smoky fable
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At least Fate must have been happy with that playoff run. Even with the Lakers being absolute trash.

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LA markets always win.

rustic ore
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Plus Ramsey got cooked, always nice to see

dim kettle
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I still blame Leftwich's inability to play good HCs.

smoky fable
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Even though that offensive line for the Bengals sucked big time.

dim kettle
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I just find it fitting that Brady's last pass will be a TD to Mike Evans.

rustic ore
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We must have watched a different game then cause I saw Chase cook Ramsey over and over

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Hell they showed on the Bengals last offensive play of the game that Chase broke Ramsey's ankles or something and would've been wide open for a game winning TD if the Bengals actually could block for 2 seconds

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Anyways I'm gonna try to pass out, if it doesn't work I'll see y'all in a bit.

dim kettle
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Definitely wasn't one of Ramsey's best games. That's for sure. Honestly, Donald should've won MVP with stopping Burrow quickly the last play alone.

smoky fable
dim kettle
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Kupp caught the most important catch of the game, that's for sure. But man, the Rams lose that game if AD doesn't get to Burrow immediately.

smoky fable
dim kettle
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Bengals better be doing something this off season. You never know if they'll ever get back to the SB again.

smoky fable
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They probably won't

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This was just a hot streak they rode to the playoffs, and the Bills are probably going to make sure they get there.

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And the Chiefs won't absolutely choke away a game like that again.

dim kettle
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It's Andy Reid. He makes choking on BBQ ribs a constant.