why?
#sports
robust grotto
just shows how shit Diop is. I’m genuinely shocked he’s playing today
dim kettle
King fans are too apathetic to feel depressed
hazy jacinth
quite possibly the dumbest trade ever
dim kettle
quite possibly the dumbest trade ever
Dumbest trade ever so far.
celest zephyr
kings going to trade fox for westbrook
dim kettle
hazy jacinth
Cleveland receives:
Caris LeVert
2022 second round pick (via MIA)
Kings receive:
Domantas Sabonis [UFA in 2024]
Jeremy Lamb [EXPIRING]
Justin Holiday [UFA in 2023]
2027 second-round pick
Pacers receive:
Tyrese Haliburton [RFA in 2025]
Buddy Hield [UFA in 2024]
Tristan Thompson [EXPIRING]
Ricky Rubio (out for season)
2022 first round pick (lotto protected)
2022 second round pick (via HOU)
2027 second round pick (via UTA)
hazy jacinth
kings going to trade fox for westbrook
ong
rustic ore
Cleveland receives:
Caris LeVert
2022 second round pick (via MIA)
Kings receiv...
So from this I would assume the Pacers made out like bandits?
dim kettle
As a Magic fan. I can always at least say we're not the Kings.
hazy jacinth
honestly the kings have one uped the blzers
the blazers or kings will take westbrook
Twitter
I'm dying
I'm done
rustic ore
Yeah that does seem odd why the Kings would give away so much for so little
celest zephyr
sabonis is by far the best player in the deal
and really while hali has been good so far its unknown how high his ceiling is
rustic ore
I’ll take your word for it, I don’t really watch Bball so 
celest zephyr
i mean sabonis has been an all star before
hazy jacinth
sabonis and fox aren't changing that damn franchise
haliburton was like the 3rd best player in his class
and was playing out of his mind
rustic ore
Yeah that looks really solid
dim kettle
The Magic's new promotional poster
celest zephyr
or the blazers
rustic ore
Wait Fol I’m confused why you’re upset
Is it because the Lakers didn’t try to get him?
hazy jacinth
because it's stupid
hazy jacinth
Is it because the Lakers didn’t try to get him?
no
rustic ore
Ah
dim kettle
Kings gonna King.
hazy jacinth
I just don't like seeing people do dumb as shit
rustic ore
You’re a good person
hazy jacinth
the kings as a franchise is an adult swim show
hazy jacinth
You’re a good person
not after I storm that lakers front office
celest zephyr
the kings shouldn't be an nba franchaise
dim kettle
the kings as a franchise is an adult swim show
Does feel like Eric André runs the Kings sometimes. 
short spindle
My CB loves animals
hazy jacinth
the kings shouldn't be an nba franchaise
honestly
hazy jacinth
https://twitter.com/LegionHoops/status/1491102071067901955?t=-9Hfh-3fPg-L-AMRpXV...
the knicks are gonna get westbrook
dim kettle
Kings are clearly a team that hasn't recover since being screwed by the refs 20+ years ago.
celest zephyr
the kings sub just gets lit on fire over and over again
hazy jacinth
lisa leslie giving the kings buckets ong
honest umbra
ye
i been seen it
its whatever
they trading just to trade
indiana wins imo long term
hazy jacinth
wayyyy more
celest zephyr
kings trying to make the playin
hazy jacinth
kings got sabonis to drift outside the playoffs for 2 more years
robust grotto
My CB loves animals
One thing that really stings is that today is about celebrating the life of a young fan who passed away at 7. But now it’ll be boos for Zouma
celest zephyr
honestly the west has a lot of teams that are going to suck/ be mediocre in a few years
hazy jacinth
and the kings will remain one of them
celest zephyr
obviously
hazy jacinth
dumb ass trade
dim kettle
Twitter
haughty moss
celest zephyr
https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1491040309320773634?s=21
nowhere close to enough
Kings need to get the 11th seed to get peak misery
sweet tree
ain't no way dawg
sweet tree
man that's crazy
robust grotto
It really shows me that Diop is awful and none of our youth are close enough
Not like we’re playing Liverpool. We’re playing Watford … come on. I think one game suspension was doable but so much for that
celest zephyr
c'mon dawg
the thing is that the kings aren't doing anything as it is
now that they have sabonis their core guys make more sense to build around (they had too many guards before)
and they got the better player
tyrese is good but let's be real unless he took a massive leap they'd still be in the same position as they are in now for years
ofc it'd be a better move to trade fox but fox wasn't going to get them sabonis
hazy jacinth
tyrese is good but let's be real unless he took a massive leap they'd still be i...
justin holiday can't play at home
celest zephyr
okay but its a long term move
its not just what the roster is now
even if they kept rese and didn't make the move they'd have to change their roster up a lot
and find a way to trade fox
hazy jacinth
silk notch
https://twitter.com/legionhoops/status/1491146579587526662?s=21
James harden throwing away a free ring
hazy jacinth
lmao
honest umbra
James harden throwing away a free ring
not if kyrie can only play half the games and kd be injured
hazy jacinth
kd will be healthy soon
nets spacing is the issue
especially without ky half the time
silk notch
not if kyrie can only play half the games and kd be injured
Isnt embid even more injury prone?
Plus the nets can just always pay the kyrie fines for the playoffs
hazy jacinth
dunno if the fines are even a real thing at this point
if they are they should do them for the first few weeks after the asg
would help with chemistry
celest zephyr
Eh free ring? I mean it’s a good shot with them but idk about free
celest zephyr
The suns warriors bucks heat all could beat the nets in a series
silk notch
Eh free ring? I mean it’s a good shot with them but idk about free
Well it's a better chance with the nets than philly lmao
hazy jacinth
for 3 people who wanted to play together the ky james and kd dynamis id weird
celest zephyr
Wow Douglas Costa to LA Galaxy. Embarassing.
Eh who knows if the nets don’t win in a year or two then it’s hard to say
silk notch
for 3 people who wanted to play together the ky james and kd dynamis id weird
Lmao seems like kyrie and kd are just so much closer to each other than they are with Harden
celest zephyr
Wasted talent. Rubbish man, dude was a top dribbler and winger but his work ethic is so rubbish. Thank god we sold him to Juve.
hazy jacinth
Lmao seems like kyrie and kd are just so much closer to each other than they are...
true
celest zephyr
Sane and Gnabry are tiers better wingers than Costa
Nets don’t have depth, they don’t have good defense they don’t have good spacing
celest zephyr
Also West Ham fucking starting Kurt Zouma after his viral video of kicking his cat is embarassing x2
hazy jacinth
feel like losing jarret allen was sorta big
hazy jacinth
Joe Harris big 3 plus some else is fine spacing
they apparently want to ship him
robust grotto
Also West Ham fucking starting Kurt Zouma after his viral video of kicking his c...
Yes, he’s been our best player this half
Can’t lie
silk notch
they apparently want to ship him
Joe Harris?
celest zephyr
Been solid in defense, but not solid in morals.
robust grotto
Shouldn’t be playing though
hazy jacinth
robust grotto
Not really we haven’t done anything
celest zephyr
and Watford looking dangerous today on the attack
hazy jacinth
celest zephyr
you guys are shaky on the RB, often getting lapped and crossed on
robust grotto
we’re awful today. Watford look more like scoring than we do
celest zephyr
how in depth are you guys
robust grotto
Awful we have no bench and no depth
celest zephyr
no signings right
robust grotto
That’s why Zouma is playing
celest zephyr
Jeez
robust grotto
No signings, no depth, no game changers
celest zephyr
Fucking playing Europe and League with no signings and depth
rustic ore
James harden throwing away a free ring
“Free ring”
robust grotto
Down 1-0 , bring on Yarmolenko. Tied 0-0? Masuaku. It’s embarrassing
robust grotto
We’re the dumbest organization in the Prem
hazy jacinth
lakers in the nba
celest zephyr
that’s the hard part of having Moyes
hazy jacinth
robust grotto
that’s the hard part of having Moyes
Pretty much
Guy has saved us and I’m forever grateful but enough is enough
celest zephyr
Moyes and Rodgers literally vibe off eachother
They do great but can’t change for balls
robust grotto
I said it before but west ham will not be good next season
robust grotto
Too many players are out, they’ll have to spend a lot of money on players. At least 10 players out of contract
celest zephyr
hey, winning silverware was cool, but man we shouldn’t be like this…
robust grotto
😦
celest zephyr
robust grotto
OH SHIT IMMA GO TO MSG
celest zephyr
Pls
robust grotto
even though I’m vaxxed lmao
celest zephyr
Not the Nottingham game
robust grotto
I’m sorry poet 😦
celest zephyr
Though respects to them, they’ve beat us and Arsenal
hazy jacinth
robust grotto
If it makes you feel better we also had the most embarrassing loss in FA Cup history
hazy jacinth
ky should've just gotten vaxxed man
celest zephyr
I don’t have anything against, they’re a good squad but also we are piss balls
dim kettle
Nets were overrated coming into the season to begin with. What, what have the Nets proven that they're a guarantee to be NBA Final contenders? Because Durant's foot was an inch away from making the 3rd round last year? Give me a break. James Harden himself hasn't proven shit through out his career in the playoffs. More times than not he curls up like a little bitch when facing elimination.
robust grotto
Oh we play each other next @celest zephyr
celest zephyr
it’s okay, at least we don’t have to worry about getting spanked like Southhampton
robust grotto
You guys lost to Southampton too?
rustic ore
ky should've just gotten vaxxed man
Didn’t he get sick? No point then
robust grotto
They wrecked us a month or two ago
celest zephyr
Like being Southampton win some games then getting spanked 9-0
silk notch
Didn’t he get sick? No point then
Just caused issues for his team
robust grotto
Like being Southampton win some games then getting spanked 9-0
Weird club
robust grotto
Second half, wish us luck 
hazy jacinth
Didn’t he get sick? No point then
fr? bruhhhhhhhh
celest zephyr
Second half, wish us luck <:BobbinFeels:701983945293561887>
👍
I’ll be watching
I don’t watch terrorist football like United vs Burnley
rustic ore
fr? bruhhhhhhhh
robust grotto
Watch how useless we are going forward. A lot of sideways and backwards
robust grotto
I don’t watch terrorist football like United vs Burnley
LMAOOOO
celest zephyr
dumbnuts signed some director as a manager
Can’t wait for De Beek at Everton to score on em
dim kettle
I just find it amazing that in any other sport. It's next man up when an injury to a star player But in the NBA, a superstar get's injured and it's like, yeah we're fucked, we're not winning. Besides a QB getting injured in football, you couldn't think of any sport when a team goes from 100% contenders to fuck in a short time.
celest zephyr
I just find it amazing that in any other sport. It's next man up when an injury ...
Yeah any team sport with a smaller squad size would be like that
Usually sports centralized on those key star players who make up most of the plays.
dim kettle
I'm mainly talking about the big contenders.
celest zephyr
Yeah Basketball only comes to mind
i mean nba is still definitely next man up also
dim kettle
Like the Lakers or Nets. They have 0 depth they if any of their stats get hurt it's panic button and I think that's a joke.
celest zephyr
teams like the suns warriors heat bucks still have depth to where they can still fight even if one of their star players goes down
its really superteams like brooklyn and la
dim kettle
Because they actually know what they're doing.
celest zephyr
yeah so that's why nothing wrong with harden leaving tbh
Out of all the sports though, Basketball is pure skill. Less randomness in comparison to other sports. So losing a key player can damage the team heavily.
nets are overrated have no depth and are one injury away from another early exit
yeah the nba is one of the least random sports
Hence underdogs can happen more often than others. I don’t know much about Basketball but shits exciting to watch.
Also the game is ongoing with the ball in play. In football/soccer’s case we literally have only 2/3 of the game spent with the ball
chilly flare
I still think it is silly to count the Nets out before the All star break
And if Harden does not get traded
celest zephyr
On average 50-54 minutes are spent with the ball and the rest are stupid time wasting, injuries, substitutions, and walking slowly to take a corner or free kick.
oh no i'm not lol they could win it all. just not going to be easy
robust grotto
No build up play, just hoof it to fucking Bowen who can’t win air balls. Fuck me
celest zephyr
No wonder people get bored because a lot of time is spent off the game
celest zephyr
No build up play, just hoof it to fucking Bowen who can’t win air balls. Fuck me
Watching that 
football is also stop and go
robust grotto
We’re so shit I can’t stress enough
celest zephyr
Bowen’s great but my man isn’t tall for a long ball
robust grotto
And we try it time and time again I’m sick of this life
celest zephyr
like there's some hurry up where it flows but sometimes there's a long time between plays
celest zephyr
football is also stop and go
Too much useless stopping
dim kettle
The Nets aren't out. But they're also not the cream of the crop of the East either as many projected them to be.
celest zephyr
That’s why recently they introduced subs to leave off the closest end of the pitch, and yellow cards for time wasting.
Literally West Ham long ball booting on the wings. Fucking sad to watch.
But better than the 81 crosses by United
ah yeah that's why i can't get into it
a lot of the time it seems like nothing is happening
@robust grotto Old Payet in this squad would make this team Top 4 definitely
chilly flare
The Nets are still the betting favorite to win not just the East but the Championship
celest zephyr
a lot of the time it seems like nothing is happening
I understand
robust grotto
<@!615262274419949583> Old Payet in this squad would make this team Top 4 defini...
No debate, especially with the other teams not being too good this season
celest zephyr
that’s why basketball is my go-to energy sport
yeah but i mean betting favourite doesn't mean actual favourite
Also rugby and American football
robust grotto
Literally West Ham long ball booting on the wings. Fucking sad to watch.
It makes me sick. If we can’t counter… we can’t win games
dim kettle
I have nothing against Euro Football. It's just I can't watch every sport and I already have trouble catching up with the NBA.
celest zephyr
heavy contact is fun to watch
chilly flare
Definitely not betting against them as of yet
celest zephyr
yeh i also just can't watch that many sports with uni
No pressure. European football isn’t interesting as much except La Liga and Serie A being a clusterfuck
plus paying for subscriptions to watch stuff like hockey and basketball regularly
also Barcelona going into chaos mode, Valencia being dogshit, Milan actually being good, and Arsenal not being Arsenal
nfl is at least if games are being played there's something on to watch at that time
Also I’ve recently started watching Derby County. Really hoping they don’t get relegated
Currently winning 2-0 against Hull and they are keeping hopes to stay away from relegation despite going like -16 points due to bankruptcy and all these weird shit their owners did
Also Rooney doing wonders and using young players since they can’t sign anyone and actually exciting football.
honest umbra
Wait Everton and Newcastle scored OG in back to back mins?
What are the odds of that happening lol
honest umbra
Newcastle lead
celest zephyr
No surprise Burnley-United is terrorist football
probably they’re both playing low blocks and 4-4-2s
Oh yeah Rangnick isn’t playing 4-4-2 since Greenwood’s fucked
honest umbra
what is terrorist football
celest zephyr
celest zephyr
what is terrorist football
Basically really shit football to watch
honest umbra
O
celest zephyr
like Getafe
honest umbra
Looks like. Man U are dominating
celest zephyr
or Burnley except I like Dyche so can’t hate
honest umbra
It’s a 4-2-3-1
celest zephyr
also you can call it terrorist football when the game is absolutely dogshit like
honest umbra
Terrorist seems like a weird word to use for it lol
celest zephyr
The famous game by United where they crossed 81 times against Fulham
And they drew 2-2 also none of the goals they scored were from crosses
I like some good defensive football, but I hate score 1 goal and play low-low blocks
or just fouling constantly and not even playing the ball (fucking Getafe)
I’ll die watching Burnley vs Getafe
robust grotto
I’m going to die today watching this trash
celest zephyr
Fucking UCL next week to revitalize my mental state. Give me some good football PSG-RMA because I’m gonna lose my mind if it ends up 1-1
robust grotto
Without Bowen we’d be dead and buried
honest umbra
No way they equalized
celest zephyr
Rice is great in everyone eyes, but the real chain to this team is Bowen and Soucek
hazy jacinth
https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1491124918020362241
this is insane lmfao
rustic ore
this is insane lmfao
Must be real nice to be a millionaire celebrity
hazy jacinth
tbh this the first time I'm seeing this kinda dumb shit
have the lakers ever chased a consistent player?
silk notch
How did United spend 70 million on Maguire
They were desperate
celest zephyr
Real defender was Soyuncu but they went for slab head because England NT amirite
Maguire has fucking high amount of tackle states and aerial duels because he puts himself in a desperate position and gets exposed every time for it
celest zephyr
tbh this the first time I'm seeing this kinda dumb shit
ofc its the lakers and nets who want/wanted washed up millsap
Reason Dias Djik or Varane doesn’t because they prevent that before having to waste the space or time to duel
Maguire literally is a show and tell of “damn I got exposed, aight lemme fix that so I look good”
Thank god we sold him
honest umbra
You a Leicester fan?
celest zephyr
Been since 2014
2015*
When they signed Okazaki
Okazaki is from my home town so I followed him and loved the club
honest umbra
that’s cool
celest zephyr
but then Leicester was really kind and nice with Okazaki despite he wasn’t that goal scorer everyone expected.
funnily, I’d experience that 2016 dream but I don’t feel it as much as the real ones who followed the team for decades, so I was happier in the FA cup win
Youri’s banger in the final was adrenaline in my veins
Bowen scored man, ducking Ham needs him for life
that would be wild
hazy jacinth
ofc its the lakers and nets who want/wanted washed up millsap
lmfao
hazy jacinth
https://twitter.com/nonbiasednbafan/status/1491143619662991360
not possible
no
no
no
no
no
no
no
no
no
haughty moss
the queens never change
celest zephyr
Ah fuck Ronaldo in, probably gonna save the game
robust grotto
Burnley pls
celest zephyr
And cover up McSlabs mistakes again
haughty moss
https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1491158345302134786
dawg ain't no way lmao
haughty moss
"millsap the missing piece fr - no one ever
hazy jacinth
bron gotta fire himself from gm
dim ledge
Everton are so fucking trash ahahahahaha
hazy jacinth
balk
haughty moss
hazy jacinth
🪀
robust grotto
Jarrod Bowen, thank you
celest zephyr
Varane with more shots on target than MBE Sir WashedFord
Nice Alexis scored on Mourinho
revenge for what he had to deal with back there
Also what a FK from Trippier. Checked the replay and beautiful as fuck.
T-Rex Pickford never reaching that
dim ledge
EVERTON GET BATTERED
EVERYWHERE THEY GO
ALWAYS IN OUR SHADOWS YOU TOFFEE CUNTS
UP THE FUCKEN REDS
YOU LOST TO A SAUDIS FUT SQUAD
celest zephyr
Holy shit
United is fucking dreadful
10 crosses in 2 minutes
None reached a teammate
sweet tree
celest zephyr
Burley stat padding defensive records from these shit crosses
sweet tree
Senegal celebrations
celest zephyr
Also nice to know Mascherano getting coaching badges
dim ledge
United drawing 1-1 FC and Everton losing
hollow wind
Twitter
celest zephyr
United drawing 1-1 FC and Everton losing
Good day
dim ledge
Bring out the champagne
hazy jacinth
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1491167882042314754
lmfao
that bum wants a supermax
celest zephyr
Arsenal with two games in hand can get above United
I want to see United not in Europe
dim ledge
Liverpool actually have a chance to catch up to or leapfrog city
Need to win our GIH and beat city
sweet tree
aren't spurs in a better spot
dim ledge
Then it's only 3 points
sweet tree
they're like 2 games behind iirc
celest zephyr
Spurs is three games behind United
sweet tree
oh
celest zephyr
Liverpool Defo getting gassed out this February and March
Any injury can really kill of their chances to take on City
sweet tree
I'm just suprised salah is back already
celest zephyr
We need to at least not be bottom 10 
short spindle
Everton are going to lose every game and somehow win against Arsenal
sweet tree
guy played like what 3 or 4 et games
should've taken a short break if you ask me but fair enough
dim ledge
Salah runs on solar power
celest zephyr
Probably can’t
celest zephyr
Salah and Mane needs to get back to Liverpool especially with Cl next week
and a game against us 
dim ledge
Salah back mane will prob take till the weekend
celest zephyr
Pls don’t cuck us
hazy jacinth
celest zephyr
If we somehow win I’m lost
short spindle
Coleman took out Howe
celest zephyr
Leicester
sweet tree
tears next week will be the first I watch my club in europa, something new to me
celest zephyr
Cheers
sweet tree
tho I always watched the competition anyways
celest zephyr
I watched the group stages of Ferencvaros vs Celtic here
Was happy to see my hometown club player score but I didn’t celebrate or the Hungarians would kill me
sweet tree
well atleast napoli is a good game
celest zephyr
I talked to Kyogo Furuhashi in person so I know his character, felt weird seeing him score
short spindle
KyoGOAT
dim ledge
What ever happened to the Japanese fellow on Leicester
celest zephyr
Happy he’s enjoying his time in Celtic along with Hatate
celest zephyr
What ever happened to the Japanese fellow on Leicester
Okazaki left few years ago
short spindle
He's at LaLiga 2 I think
celest zephyr
Now he’s in second division with Huesca
short spindle
Hatate has been a good signing for Celtic
celest zephyr
He’s really good
Rated him since high school
He was quite a player in the Japanese High School tournaments but his team didn’t progress far so he went to J League via university
Joined Kawasaki Frontale and became their starting midfielder after a season and won back to back J League titles as their MVP Midfielder
Still 24 and plenty of room to develop
Just to be played second fiddle in the NT because our manager somehow prefers old washed players who are way past their prime
honest umbra
what team have never been relegated from first div?
sweet tree
arsenal
fluid moat
Nope
sweet tree
they probably have
fluid moat
Wait maybe they have
sweet tree
they've won the 2nd division 4 times
honest umbra
@dim ledge any idea?
celest zephyr
Which is the most recent out of the top 6? City?
sweet tree
list of unrelegated clubs
sweet tree
Which is the most recent out of the top 6? City?
yeah
celest zephyr
Athletic is genuinely a cool club
honest umbra
idk whether i like or dislike its only basque players
celest zephyr
no one hates them, respects tradition, always on top of the table despite all those strict rules of players, Iñaki brothers, everything
celest zephyr
yeah very very cool
Also very kind enough to allow Iñaki brothers with special perms as he stayed and grew up there
Independent of Athletic, Iñaki William’s story is fucking amazing
sweet tree
I read about that story a while ago with their mom fleeing their native country to find a better life in spain for her kids, touching story.
she cried when nico williams scored his first goal as well
celest zephyr
celest zephyr
https://twitter.com/ShamoonHafez/status/1491172538298544128?s=20&t=PrOG_Zh266tjw...
Maguire
sweet tree
does maguie not blame himself
Leicester really got 70m from this guy, or maybe it was more don't remember
celest zephyr
Every time I switched to the Newcastle game today, I saw him tearing up the wing
not even surprising with Everton being so shit even Ancelotti can’t save them
sweet tree
gotta love asm
honest umbra
top 4 prob gonna be city, liverpool, chelsea, spurs
conte having an extra 3 games is going overlooked here
honest umbra
https://dailysnark.com/2022/02/08/victim-of-alvin-kamara-attack-releases-photo-o...
u think he gets 4 or 6 games suspension?
rustic ore
I think everything hinges on if the video gets made public
If it doesn't then I'd expect something like 6 games yeah
If it does the public outcry might force the Saints to suspend all year if not cut him outright
Either way he deserves to be punished for this harshly
dim ledge
<@!216582410756685824> any idea?
Sorry was taking an exam but mala right
Way before I was born
I don't think arsenal have ever been relegated?
celest zephyr
conte having an extra 3 games is going overlooked here
Spurs being Spurs is being overlooked here
honest umbra
as opposed to arsenal and man united being someone other than themselves?
celest zephyr
Spurs is always Spurs
United is being like them. Arsenal differs by actually winning something
After what they did to my man Kagawa I’m never forgiving United
honest umbra
kagawa was goated
celest zephyr
Could’ve seen him go with Klopp to Liverpool if he stayed with Dortmund
Kagawa Henderson Coutinho?
Fuck me with that front three of Sterling Sturidge Suarez
celest zephyr
Suarez fucking unreal….
I would’ve definitely put Suarez winning the Ballon D’or if he won that league season
honest umbra
that was 2014 right?
think ronaldo won
he won UCL and had a good szn
suarez might have contended but still think CR7 wins
sweet tree
suarez didn't even make top 3
cause fifa didn't wanna include him after his 2 incidents
sweet tree
suarez was so hated
celest zephyr
solid chance 2016
celest zephyr
Dude out scored both the past winners yet came 3rd
celest zephyr
I had a teacher who’s a Liverpool fan
has the old Carlsberg jersey from the final in his classroom
he was at the game where Suarez scored the two screamers
honest umbra
against norwich?
celest zephyr
I think it was Norwich(?)
honest umbra
he hated that team
sweet tree
looool
celest zephyr
He remembers how beautiful that low volley was
sweet tree
he terrorized them
celest zephyr
drinking a pint and you see Suarez kick the ball up over the defender then volley it into the net
ah this one
fuckin beautiful
quite a cool teacher. Happy to see him celebrate when Liverpool finally won the league title
English class was postponed since he was absent on the day after the historic 4-0
Man was probably drunk hard and had to call in sick
honest umbra
https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1491154459438854144
can these players just stay home
rustic ore
Please
simple seal
celest zephyr
the coin jinxed the falcons
sweet tree
who's got the HT show
also camp nou is gonna be spotify camp nou @honest umbra
I guess that's alright
honest umbra
also camp nou is gonna be spotify camp nou <@95648410492731392>
yea it isnt full rights
haughty moss
who's got the HT show
for the super bowl? snoop, em, kendrick, mary j blige, dre
sweet tree
yuh, 5 peeps huh. that's actually a sick line up tho
celest zephyr
might be more hyped for the half time show than the game
robust grotto
Just read that VGK would need to offload $4.3 mil in cap in order to have enough space to get Eichel off of LTIR
VGK will be trading in the next few weeks
celest zephyr
honestly the nba has to just get rid of max contracts
kind of insane value to get a superstar like giannis on a max or supermax but then a team pays a similar amount for a guy like middleton
robust grotto
Players would never allow that to happen though
celest zephyr
i get not the best players for sure like middleton siakam etc
but superstars would get paid more or take a discount and play
and idk why players would want a superteam that much since it really only benefits them the most
nba soft cap allows teams to pay way more than other teams anyways so its not like there ever was a level playing field or anything close to that
and it wouldn't be good team building to dump 60 million dollars at one guy since there's not a ton left over
dim kettle
The depth is such a fucking joke.
honest umbra
what happened to the nets?
celest zephyr
what happened to the nets?
doesn't excuse every game but i mean considering the guys they are playing today lol
depth is one thing but i mean how many teams can with without having their entire starting lineup against a competent team
dim kettle
At the end of the day, Basketball is a "team" game. Yeah, having all your stars out hurts a lot but your own depth should not be playing this badly.
honest umbra
ya lakers didnt get any sympathy over last 2 years
having a rlly hard time feeling any sympathy for nets
they built that roster, injuries happen
celest zephyr
don't have any sympathy but this game also ain't representative of much
dim kettle
This is why I keep saying I'm glad the whole super team concept is getting exposed.
honest umbra
it may not be
but what is it
9 straight losses?
and this is a HUGE blowout on national TV
like this is bound to have a domino effect
onto something
celest zephyr
eh any domino effect has already happened
kd is out for weeks, they are on a big losing streak, harden might be out after this season, kyrie is still part time
i dislike the celtics but this game being close would be an embarassment for them
dim kettle
The Nets future all looks like 'You're fucked"
dim kettle
Happens when you don't think of the long term and instead try to go ring chasing with a bunch of names.
Like, would the 2019-2020 Lakers have NBA title if they weren't in the bubble? Who knows?
silk notch
This nets slander feels so forced
honest umbra
they were 1 seed and beat the other contenders clips-bucks back to back nights
before the reg szn went to sleep
they would def win the title
dim kettle
I mainly talking about the health of the team in general.
Like, all the pieces were set in the Lakers favor in that regard.
honest umbra
This nets slander feels so forced
its not forced, it literally is what it is
celest zephyr
This nets slander feels so forced
eh the nets have a million flaws
honest umbra
all other 29 teams also got 6 months to recover from injuries
heat got injured IN the bubble
dragic/bam were playing throughout
dim kettle
Slander would imply that it's false. The Nets have not proven to be anything but what they are rn without the stars being in.
honest umbra
nobody on the clips was injured, they just choked 3-1
celest zephyr
the best part of the offseason was philly getting doc rivers only for him to then choke next postseason
silk notch
its not forced, it literally is what it is
Well people are acting like the situation is wayy worse than it is it can easily go well, if their still hella struggling when their healthy than fair enough
honest umbra
but the thing is kd and kyrie have been together for 3 years and kd and kyrie and harden for 2 years
in that span
they have 1 playoff appearance
and nothing else to show for it
currently, kd and kyrie and harden are all "injured"
when will it go well?
dim kettle
If we really want to get further into it. What about coaching? You think if the Nets were really a contender that even with the injuries they would at least make these type of games competitive. Depth is awful and the coaching seems ineffective.
honest umbra
they have never been ALL healthy and theyre getting older, not younger
silk notch
when will it go well?
They had one playoff run where they got unlucky with two injuries give it another one lol
silk notch
I mean u cant really control health and giannis being clumsy asf
celest zephyr
that's the risk with having a bunch of old and injury prone players
silk notch
Like it was going fine till kyrie got injured from giannis kinda being clumsy that's just unlucky at that point
silk notch
that's the risk with having a bunch of old and injury prone players
I mean harden wasnt even really Injury prone until recently that's just bad timing
celest zephyr
harden has been out of shape the past two years
dim kettle
You can't control injuries but you can always come up with plan B if shit like this happens. Which teams like the Lakers and Nets don't have because they don't have a fucking clue about roster building and developing talent within.
celest zephyr
no team isn't going to have injuries in the post season
honest umbra
what they gonna do if bucks start blowing lakers out on national tv?
silk notch
You can't control injuries but you can always come up with plan B if shit like t...
the nets going for a big 3 wasnt bad roster building, the lakers just went for a terrible 3rd option
dim kettle
You see, you missed my point. They got the big 3 and no one else to go to if any of them got injured.
silk notch
well when only of them is injured its fine, the issue is they 2/3 gone plus other role players injured
harden and kd were doing fine
celest zephyr
okay tbf shitting on the nets is going a bit too far
any team losing its best two or three players and several rotation players would suck
silk notch
any time losing a superstar will struggle the nets having 3 off sets that
when the lakers didnt have lebron last year it was just kuzma and the rest taking shit shots
celest zephyr
sure third string guys shouldn't be trash but can't expect them to be beyond competent
and yeah that's the point of having more than one superstar. you can lose one and still be fine
silk notch
and yeah that's the point of having more than one superstar. you can lose one an...
yea so to say its shit team building just seems wrong
celest zephyr
i'd call it risky team building
if things go well or mostly well then its fine. Things can quickly go south though
celtics are also playing great basketball right now
dim kettle
AD shot got blocked. You don't see shit like that happen often.
celest zephyr
the issue with AD is he sometimes doesn't play like he's the guy
Twitter
what is nash on
if they were being resilient idk maybe they win some games in this stretch
dim kettle
Nash shouldn't be praising his guys about having "resilience through this tough patch" right after basically hitting rock bottom of the stretch on national TV.
celest zephyr
i'd be surprised if they didn't make the conference finals
but winning a ring? there are other contenders
honest umbra
none of which are better than bucks
these guys are drilled rn
such good rotations, movement, shots
haughty moss
This game 
robust grotto
dim kettle
I disagree. This was a good call. Motte was obviously using his telekinesis powers to whack that dude in the face with the stick.
dusk merlin
the nets going for a big 3 wasnt bad roster building, the lakers just went for a...
Nah man the lakers 3rd option Monk
dim ledge
Jesus Christ
Dude has a ranch with more land than NYC and LA and gives arsenal crumbs
burnt cedar
@bitter rover Team KZ all the way now https://twitter.com/alexvolkanovski/status/1491253779207180289?s=21
bitter rover
<@!385144511011094530> Team KZ all the way now https://twitter.com/alexvolkanovs...
I cant believe he actually believes that lol
simple seal
Prior to the 1956 NCAA Tournament
wet onyx
giants are super bowl 57 champs
celest zephyr
Jesus Christ City
I bet Pep actually have his own analysts who calculate these grids in further detail and perfect his formations
Yet he still puts Rodri in bench in a UCL Final
robust grotto
This doesn’t make me feel good lol
hazy jacinth
celest zephyr
This doesn’t make me feel good lol
Coufal, Cresswell, Bowen and Benrama carrying those wings
celest zephyr
Leeds and Brighton are anomalies
City getting an air dominant center forward would’ve made that center piece red
We can’t even connect the center of the opponents half
I miss Mahrez
We play a 3-5-2 not to even control midfield
robust grotto
I miss Mahrez
celest zephyr
Fuck city
But at least beating them 5-2 two seasons ago made my day
Also the community shield too
can’t forget that Vardy hat trick 
What can I pay to bring back Vardy-Mahrez duo
celest zephyr
https://twitter.com/thestanchion/status/1491278441152659458?s=21
honestly kinda looks like its done delibrately by the coyotes player
or at least thinking it might have had that penalty. blatant slashing by the coyotes player but guess refs are blind
called too many men on the avs
hazy jacinth
robust grotto
Radio personality here saying he has a feeling Harden could get done today
celest zephyr
how about i get an extension
hazy jacinth
please come to LA dame
hazy jacinth
crack head
celest zephyr
That Cup final last year was beautiful
Right as we’re saying this, west ham lost a sponsor
robust grotto
Club announced that he gave the cats away and they fined him weeks worth of wages
that money will go directly to various animal charities
👍
rustic ore
Told you he ain’t leaving
If he ever wants a ride he obviously should, be he’s loyal to a fault and I can respect that
celest zephyr
dude just wants to waste the rest of his career there
rustic ore
celest zephyr
they had a good run up until like a year or two ago but idk why he's sticking around now
rustic ore
Cause he likes living there
Don’t really think there is any deeper meaning
He doesn’t want to leave and they’re never gonna chase him off
celest zephyr
yeah fair enough
wonder if beal is leaving giving some of his comments
certainly seems more publically willing to leave
haughty moss
That’s cool and all, but he ain’t gonna win lol
Long as he knows that it’s whatever
celest zephyr
sure he can be a benchwarmer on a contender
hard hit but tbh ja has to be more in control with his drives
hard foul though. maybe flagrant 1 but flagrant two is pure reputation
hazy jacinth
dim kettle
celest zephyr
the rat only went into his hole for some time
celest zephyr
snyder should sell the team and be forced to donate all of the money to charity
celest zephyr
if lillard gets traded he's going to go to the magic or rockets
celest zephyr
Club announced that he gave the cats away and they fined him weeks worth of wage...
That’s good
He needs to learn stuff and fining small amounts for these professionals are unacceptable. Fining them weeks worth wages, and that going to donations are good but listening to the massive boos from both ends yesterday was satisfying.
Now looking at Greenwood… 
burnt cedar
Zouma and Greenwood both rightfully punished/getting punished
Would be nice if the sport would take the same measures for racism next
Sadly don’t see it happening
honest umbra
Would be nice if the sport would take the same measures for racism next
problem is that part of the game usually comes from the receptive end, usually from a dude hiding behind a computer
as opposed to a player who is publicly employed
burnt cedar
I mean with seen Suarez an Terry both get away with it lighter than this
But yeah I agree
honest umbra
not that the league can’t do more, they suck at it lol but there’s always some dude who think he’s cool af doing it
and it’s lame lol
burnt cedar
I mean when you have former pros putting statements out like this https://fxtwitter.com/touchlinefracas/status/1491324701993758722?s=21
Don’t see much changing within the game too
honest umbra
I mean when you have former pros putting statements out like this https://fxtwit...
I don’t know how to feel about this LOL
honest umbra
It’s like both are mutually bad things
robust grotto
That’s completely disrespectful to women and people of color
honest umbra
And aren’t comparable
burnt cedar
Yeah lol
robust grotto
Exactly
honest umbra
Humans and animals should be treated with respect regardless of race or gender lol
It seems as he’s belittling one more than the other here
robust grotto
I lost a ton of respect for Zouma, I thought they would’ve sat him yesterday but he was bound to play eventually. Moyes got it out the way, for better or worse
honest umbra
I lost a ton of respect for Zouma, I thought they would’ve sat him yesterday but...
Moyes didn’t handle it well either
burnt cedar
Moyes also has some questionable statements on diversity
So I don’t expect much from him
honest umbra
Like I understand the reasoning behind “that’s the front office job, I handle the managing”
But surely you have to stand aside some standard
People don’t get played for LESS reasons with contention of front board
And yet managers don’t come out with statements like that
robust grotto
He dodged every question about it yesterday
honest umbra
Auba literally only problem was with arteta and he didn’t play
Went from like clubs essential player to banished
Lol
Managers only wanna seem like dictators when it suits them
Otherwise they’re pawns to their board
It’s a bit of a weak card to play
burnt cedar
Zouma has lost his Adidas sponsor now
robust grotto
Yeah I saw
burnt cedar
Wonder how far this goes
robust grotto
And he gave away the cats
burnt cedar
Does he get sacked
robust grotto
No chance bro come on
burnt cedar
I mean I’ve never seen this much energy before from people lmao
robust grotto
people have done worse like you said, not defending it
burnt cedar
Yep
robust grotto
just shitty reality
burnt cedar
Just never seen this much uproar before
robust grotto
same
burnt cedar
Considering there’s literally a murderer in the prem
robust grotto
I said it yesterday but it’s so strange to see the entire football world hate west ham for 2 games in a row
I’m not used to this lmao
burnt cedar
What was the hate for the first game
robust grotto
Kidderminster
dim ledge
Dude Ajay lmfao
I'm surprised every day Alonso is still playing
Never ceases to shock me
robust grotto
Absolutely everyone wanted us to lose, rightfully so
honest umbra
I mean I’ve never seen this much energy before from people lmao
It’s because animals are the one of the untouchables that everyone of every race can agree that they like lol
burnt cedar
Kidderminster
Oh right, meh don’t really care about small clubs like that honestly
honest umbra
They aren’t as vocal about other things because.. yea
burnt cedar
Lmaoo yeah
dim ledge
All of united ghosts against Middlesbrough but sure call Lokanga slurs for missing a pen
burnt cedar
Tbh I don’t think there is any country that is a good example
dim ledge
Maguire gets cooked by Wout fucking Weghorst but yes it's Lokanga who deserves the blame
burnt cedar
All of united ghosts against Middlesbrough but sure call Lokanga slurs for missi...
Elanga*
burnt cedar
Lokonga plays cm for arsenal lol
burnt cedar
Especially in England
Crazy thing is in London id still experience racism despite how multicultural it is
I can’t imagine in more rural areas
How they’d treat me
honest umbra
Bro it’s weird to me if u live in a place like London or LA especially where it’s people of every culture
And you’re publicly racist
burnt cedar
Yep
dim ledge
Totally believe it Ajay and you're not wrong, every country has it bad really
honest umbra
Like why u even in that city lmao
Not that it’s ok to be racist anywhere but what did u expect
burnt cedar
“They took our jobs” 
honest umbra
Cities like that thrive because of the multi cultures
dim ledge
Yeah spot on really
burnt cedar
Don’t wanna make this some sort of competition lmao but an American guy here was racist in public
And I’d never seen anything like it lmao
Couldn’t believe what I saw seeing
honest umbra
Doesn’t surprise me at all LOL
I’ve heard stories and seen some racism in some states that would shock people
Like it doesn’t even affect or hinder them
As if it’s part of their normal life which tbf it is
and then it comes out on all Like an interview or a podcast or something and no one is shocked lol
Oh lukaku scored
robust grotto
NBA is wild. you’d never see 2 division rival NHL teams trading star players
In terms of player movement and trade drama, NBA is the king
honest umbra
In terms of player movement and trade drama, NBA is the king
Like I said the top top players in NBA are much much better than everyone else in the league
The disparity is so high especially with so little players in the league
You are willing to take that trade
celest zephyr
more of the nba strategy is high end talent bailing you out
honest umbra
And hope the one you draft is the one that pans out
celest zephyr
because high end talent can dominate an entire game
honest umbra
Like morant for grizzlies or etc
NBA a game where individual talent CAN get you wins
celest zephyr
its really as simple as superstars can play like 40/48 minutes or more
in a playoff game
and a roster can have 15 active players but only 8 play
robust grotto
Like I said the top top players in NBA are much much better than everyone else i...
True. NHL values depth players much much more
celest zephyr
oh depth players are valuable in the nba
no team survives the regular season without them
and teams without depth still get burned in the playoffs
honest umbra
But there’s few of them lol
celest zephyr
if a team can't pull out a quality 8 or 9 man rotation then they are screwed
honest umbra
That are actually valuable
celest zephyr
happens when the best players can play pretty much the entire game
depth is way more important when even your best players only play like 20 something minutes at most as forwards
and like 25ish as dmen
that's why nba superstars sometimes look like walking corpses after a playoff game. happens when they play at an elite level for that long with minimal breaks
dim kettle
Basketball by nature is less luck based. So if a player is really good, they can take over games more times than not. But that isn't to say there isn't any luck at all. Injuries happen with overuse of talent. MJ never won a series without Scottie Pippen for example. You still need role players and players in general that fit into a system to succeed.
robust grotto
Would the nba equivalent of Ryan Reaves fetch a 3rd round pick ?
honest umbra
There’s not even a 3rd round in the NBA
dim kettle
There is no third round picks in the NBA silly
robust grotto
My bball knowledge is trash lmaooo but that’s a top 100 pick in a draft !
honest umbra
To put it into account, there’s only 60 players drafted in the NBA every year and of those maybe 10-15 survive the first 5 years in the NBA. Most of them don’t even play in the league
robust grotto
just wanted to show an example of how teams value those type of players
honest umbra
And of those, maybe MAYBE there’s 2 superstars max
There’s 60 picks and teams still don’t even value their second round picks in the NBA
robust grotto
ooooof that’s actually wild
honest umbra
BEcause they know all the talent is in the top of the first
There’s the odd success story like kawhi or manu or Jokic
But more times than not, they’re usually right
robust grotto
Okay so NBA is really it’s own beast in terms of the draft value
honest umbra
That’s why I personally think NBA players at their peak are the most athletically gifted in the world
To be in motion CONSISTENTLY
dim kettle
Of course the 1st round is even uncertain because these kids are drafted too early in their careers and it takes years for them to actually look like what they were valued at. Markelle Fultz for example.
honest umbra
I love football (soccer) and can also make the same argument but it’s less straining
Whereas basketball is more pick up and go
celest zephyr
the thing is in the nba is other than not playing hard to have breaks on the court
honest umbra
If you taking a break on the court u done bro
celest zephyr
there's been long drafts in the nba before
yeah in the playoffs
nba draft from top to bottom is a crapshoot
only really like 10 maybe 15 picks where you can get a difference maker most of the time
robust grotto
Word I get it
In hockey a team absolutely would value a bottom 6 player who only has 15 points in an 82 game season
celest zephyr
that's what an nba team would hope to get with a second round pick
dim kettle
NBA culture is a lot different than the NHL when it comes to "development" when it comes to fans and the media's expectations towards rookies. In the NHL, these 18-19 year olds drafted picked in the top 10 go to the AHL, etc for a few years before getting to the pros. But in the NBA these kids are brought in too early and when they don't look like game changers they're more times than not labeled as busts before actually getting to better learn their craft.
robust grotto
Right we talked about this yesterday
dim kettle
Like, Shaq and MJ played 3 years in college and were game changers immediately
robust grotto
But that’s why I think junior leagues would be better because they would be getting better coaching from an earlier age. Play against better competition, and they’d get paid for it too
That’s interesting though, you make great points
honest umbra
Speaking of it’s been good to see quinton playing for the kings
And them winning as well
robust grotto
Oh Byfield ?
honest umbra
Yea
robust grotto
Yeah for sure, he needed AHL time and he’s benefitting now
honest umbra
Fan of him
dim kettle
celest zephyr
yeah that's why some teams value the g league a lot
honest umbra
Crazy to me a second pick in the NHL Draft has to go thru that
celest zephyr
its a good way to develop talent
toronto developed guys like fvv and siakam who are key contributors now through the g league
robust grotto
Crazy to me a second pick in the NHL Draft has to go thru that
Like siren said yesterday, every guy is different and every situation is different. The kings weren’t the second worst team that year, the just won a lottery and had the luxury of letting him settle
celest zephyr
there's also at least somewhat of a slight culture shift with guys opting to go overseaas or to the g league ignite team which was created recently
robust grotto
The AHL is a huge reason why Tampa Bay is as good as they are
celest zephyr
yeah a good farm system can help teams be competitive for years
robust grotto
Every team in hockey wishes they had a farm system as good as TB
celest zephyr
really not that different in the nba
dim kettle
G League is probably the second best option the NBA has to develop players. I still think players should only be allowed in the NBA 3 years after graduating high school
celest zephyr
the warriors got succesful through developing draymond, curry, klay
robust grotto
there's also at least somewhat of a slight culture shift with guys opting to go ...
Good, I’m pro playing in pro leagues as a teenager. G league was a good idea
celest zephyr
yeah for sure guys are beginning to see it that way
high picks green and kuminga i believe went to g league ignite
robust grotto
Best thing Auston Matthews did for his development was playing in the Swiss pro league as opposed to staying in the US national program
dim kettle
Or the NBA should use my idea and let the players either play in the NBA immediately after High School or they have to play 3 years in college or the G League.
robust grotto
Or the NBA should use my idea and let the players either play in the NBA immedia...
I get you. Ultimate there is no right thing , there’s so many paths out there but the 1 and done thing hasn’t turned out to be too good, in hindsight
Wasn’t Zion supposed to be this ridiculous player
celest zephyr
zion has been injuries and diet so bad that even. a normal person wouldn't be healthy on it
there's a good reason why there's been a lot of talk about his weight
sure he is that when he's on the court, but his conditioning is so awful that its not been often the case
dim kettle
The ultimate problem with the NBA system rn is there's clearly a gap between the contenders and everyone else. The East has recovered some since a few years ago. But it's only gonna happen again sooner rather than later. And one of the many factors is the lack of top draft picks not being the game changers off the bat like they used to.
celest zephyr
The one and done system has been one of the worst things to happen to the nba
dim kettle
Not only has it ruined the NBA a lot it also has made College Basketball less fun.
celest zephyr
yeah too much talent just coming and going year in and year out
especially when it feels like a lot of the guys leaving would benefit from another year or two or even three in college
doesn't help that the nba seems to be valuing raw skills and potential a lot now
dim kettle
It's gonna hurt them long term if that keeps happening. NBA grew as a brand because of the rivalries and high end talent from every team. Now, it seems like that doesn't exist.
Only small amount of teams actually have exciting players.
celest zephyr
yeah once this generation ends and a lot of the older guys retire and/or heavily decline there's not that much left
a perfect example is the spurs with several quality young/decently young players but not much in the form of guys who could reach the high echelons of the league
celest zephyr
hard to blame you
the product if you've been paying attention hasn't been as bad the past year or two
robust grotto
Jets would win that
celest zephyr
super bowl 57 is gonna be the jets vs the giants
falcons chargers
the glories of choke bowl
robust grotto
Lions Texans SB please and thanks
celest zephyr
game ends 22-24 off of a last minute safety
wet onyx
Jets would win that
giants clear no diff
dim kettle
NBA isn't as fun anymore because the regular season doesn't ultimately matter anymore. And that's the factors of players would rather go ring chasing instead of working for a title (which it's their choice), the lack of game changers coming out of drafts, and just the lack of real rivalries through out the season.
celest zephyr
the real thing is the lack of rivalries
if there's one thing the nhl divisional system has created its a ton of bad blood
honest umbra
super bowl 57 is gonna be the jets vs the giants
u should put money on it
will prob win around 10 mill
even like 10 cents
celest zephyr
insert draft kings advertisement
dim kettle
Even Baseball has more bad blood than the NBA if they ask me.
wet onyx
u should put money on it
to be honest it has unreal upside with little downside
honest umbra
thats what all bettors think
celest zephyr
ring chasing is w/e its better than guys wasting away for years
celest zephyr
someone proceeds to bet jared goff as finals mvp
celest zephyr
but then the pats and rams had a mutual pact to make the most awful product possible