at all
#sports
haughty moss
dim kettle
rustic ore
Twitter
celest zephyr
cold igloo
sweet tree
I'd go
honest umbra
HIIIIIIIM UNIVERSITY
dim ledge
Carvalho deal fell through BC a difference of contracting between the PL and the EFL
Fortunately the contract on the table can still be agreed upon between Fulham and Liverpool and given that a set valuation was on the table, that prevents Fulham from getting £0 or defaulting into a tribunal
sweet tree
wait they couldn't sign it before the deadline?
dim ledge
Confident the contract progresses to a pre agreement and he's a Liverpool player come the summer, which wouldve been the case anyways as he was staying on loan
dim ledge
wait they couldn't sign it before the deadline?
Very very weird explanation
The EFL lacks two things
- Deal sheets, like having a player stay on loan despite being signed to another club. Believe this also would have been an issue if we gave them Neco Williams as part of the deal, basically only straight transfers seem to work
- Although the window is open until technically 1am if we requested an extension, the EFL isn't allowed in this distinction
Actually
Seems they got Neco
sweet tree
yeah I saw that
I guess it's not that much of a problem as you said, will still come in the summer
dim ledge
Most likely yes, especially with Neco having gone to Fulham now I'm confident he was part of the deal and Fulham will satisfy their end by penning the pre agreement
Fabio wants to play at LFC
sweet tree
still kinda odd the EFL doesn't have an extension like the Prem does, you'd think they both would try to have similar rules lol.
dim ledge
Right? Very bizarre especially considering how much movement occurs between the two leagues
Heres the weirder part
Prem can send downwards with deal sheets/extension sheets
But EFL cannot send up
sweet tree
interesting
dim ledge
Either way, multiple LFC resources point to pre agreement so I'm chilling
rustic ore
Twitter
celest zephyr
https://twitter.com/DannyFleitas/status/1488014406176882691?t=m_a9ZQTYikdwRuU41s...
lets go beat the us
well i'm not a fan of the trend of giving upan early goal
sweet tree
they've got a fun attack to watch, Canada just needs 1 more win to qualify for the world cup. Haven't been in one since 86, so that's good
celest zephyr
might have to find a way to watch if i have time then
sweet tree
not surprised lmao, barto had people defending him in the press.
https://twitter.com/ReshadRahman_/status/1488271776736022537?t=hRkFIGeTOLmtgKF7DBxD9w&s=19
Twitter
so many sketchy shit under bartomeu's presidency, genuinely up there with some of the worst presidents / owners.
dim kettle
haughty moss
Angle 🐐
robust grotto
8 goals
dim kettle
Defense is a social construct in Toronto
celest zephyr
Puck watching is an art
dim kettle
Twitter
honest umbra
Don’t trust higbee that much but better than nothing
nah hes big
if we can have him + blanton both
its a W
honest umbra
brons 38 and has won 2-3 gold medals for his country
and arguably still having his greatest szn in a while averaging 29 pts amongst insane other stats
im all for memes but twitter level memes against lebron are usually eh
AD would make more sense for the meme
north bison
im all for memes but twitter level memes against lebron are usually eh
theres this one bron twitter meme i saw that only makes sense if you've seen attack on titan but that shit had me crying
north bison
nah lmao they were referencing his china shit
north bison
thats the most deep cut sports x attack on titan joke ive ever seen lmao
honest umbra
but yea i dont agree with lebron on everything about social issues
but when it comes to his basketball, the jokes are usually lame
lmao
north bison
i fw lebron though as someone born and raised a gsw fan
cant deny his accomplishments
robust grotto
Damon Severson’s gap control and just overall defensive awareness on that 2 on 1 was sooooo bad https://twitter.com/dreday___/status/1488353150130180106?s=21
Guy pointed his stick the wrong way 😭
The devils are on track to play 5 playoff games in the span of a decade
sweet tree
why did he swing back like that loool
robust grotto
bro I don’t know lol and he’s a long time vet too; not like it’s his first game in the big league
sweet tree
my guy was waiting for a cutback
robust grotto
Poor guy. He’s going to lose sleep tonight after that
Overthinking killed him. Def would’ve been more acceptable to be aggressive on the player w the puck, even if he lost that battle, than to do what he did
honest umbra
bro I don’t know lol and he’s a long time vet too; not like it’s his first game ...
think he thought his goalie had the inside covered and he was covering the outside pass
which would be an easier shot for him
but in doing so, got caught in the middle of doing neither almost?
because his goalie didnt commit since both results were possible at the time
robust grotto
Good point, probably figured it was going to be a shot
robust grotto
Absolutely
That’s hockey in a nutshell
You have no time. All instinct. Which is every sport really, now that I think about it 😂
hollow wind
@north bison please don’t post memes that contain other series spoilers, even if it is sports related lol
robust grotto
haughty moss
Lmao damn
long tinsel
bruh lmao thats a lame logo design
long tinsel
the name was itself lame and now the logo too 🗿
sweet smelt
Lmao new IPL team but the logo ain't very great
final plaza
Other picks are good tho. Bisnoi and Stoinis
long tinsel
only 3 players rn lol
sweet smelt
Ah lmao
long tinsel
feb 13 full teams
sweet smelt
Then I only need to know ahemdabad and Lucknow's 3
long tinsel
lucknow 0 is kl rahul , bishnoi and stonis
ahemdabad is rashid khan , hardik pandya and gill
final plaza
Yeah
Loved all Ahemdabad's picks
Only dissatisfaction id KL Rahul
i don't remember any good play of his since he became the captain
long tinsel
david warner would have been a better pick
but he wont get captaincy due to the lasy ipl saga
final plaza
Idk what's happening to warner tho. He has beej, weird, in his social media handles lol
long tinsel
i don't remember any good play of his since he became the captain
his batting was fine imo when he was captain
final plaza
I remember his 75 out of 62 balls
long tinsel
i remember his 132 against rcb like 2020 ipl
final plaza
Dude played Half the balls of the match and more than half were dots
long tinsel
Dude played Half the balls of the match and more than half were dots
ah yes sometimes his strke rate is worse
final plaza
i remember his 132 against rcb like 2020 ipl
Oh yeah I remember this now. Target was around 207 or smth
long tinsel
he needs to work on it but defends himself when asked about improving his strike rate
long tinsel
ye
final plaza
It took a lot time for him to be in National team
long tinsel
and jadeja lmao was dropped on 0 and then hit 37 runs in an over
long tinsel
ye the best fielder rn
celest zephyr
The nba decided to hire the nfl script writers
chilly flare
The Cavs are a nice surprise this season
rustic ore
The nba decided to hire the nfl script writers
Hot damn that is a tight race 
hollow wind
The nba decided to hire the nfl script writers
dude if you told me this would be the mid season rankings of the eastern conference I would laugh at you so hard
honest umbra
dude if you told me this would be the mid season rankings of the eastern confere...
cavaliers?
hollow wind
I expected bulls to be a playoff team, not the first seed and I expected the cavs to be a bottom 5 team in the league yeah
celest zephyr
cavs are surprise of the season
hollow wind
And Boston are doing worse than I expected. Not a good team atm
celest zephyr
boston bailed out by high end talent when it works
dim kettle
The Bulls are such a mix bag as of late though. Teams don't just lose badly to the Magic.
celest zephyr
udoka sucks as a coach. they'd probably have like 10 wins without tatum, smart, jaylen
bulls still feel like they are a year or two away
and honestly idk they don't seem like a true contender
suns look like the best team in the league right now
east is wide open
dim kettle
Let's see what the Bulls had as of late.
- Lost to the Blazers already
- Got blown out by the Magic
- Just struggled to beat the Raptors
- Blowout loss this year to the Pacers
- Lost twice to the 76ers
Well that's a pretty big 5 game stretch
celest zephyr
Pacers suck this year also
honest umbra
didnt they have a dollar tickets
celest zephyr
they should blow it up finally
apparently yeh
heat look way more like a contender
honest umbra
heat havent been healthy at all
and been playing good
bucks are my favorite though
dim kettle
We can at least say we're far beyond the days of LOL Warriors vs Cavs. East actually doesn't look like a joke anymore.
hollow wind
Nets just haven’t been putting out a full roster basically at all this season
celest zephyr
Nets should trade kyrie
dim kettle
Who'd take him?
celest zephyr
yeah but the issue is he doesn't always play
i'd rather have a guy who plays every single game
honest umbra
We can at least say we're far beyond the days of **LOL Warriors vs Cavs**. East ...
not saying its gonna happen but ironically has a chance of being a finals matchup this szn
celest zephyr
nba is rigged if that happens
celest zephyr
idk tbh a wild idea i have is trading kyrie for jerami grant
honest umbra
not a good trade for nets
celest zephyr
grant hasn't been doing well and the pistons are tanking anyways
dim kettle
not saying its gonna happen but ironically has a chance of being a finals matchu...
Hey, at least it wouldn't be Lebron carrying a bunch of overpaid bums this time if that would happen lol
celest zephyr
eh if harden leaves due to this shit then its going to be rough
honest umbra
Hey, at least it wouldn't be Lebron carrying a bunch of overpaid bums this time ...
hes doing that just on a diff team this time
celest zephyr
they'd have to find guys on the fly with not a lot of assets
dim kettle
He always does.
celest zephyr
He always does.
lebron bailing out teams that'd suck otherwise
garland is an all star candidate this season
honest umbra
should get it
celest zephyr
its close
celest zephyr
fvv, jaylen brown, lavine lamelo are all contenders for guards as reserves
dim kettle
Remember, the Lakers traded half of their entire team just to get AD. But the Lakers already got their ring. Fuck whoever says it was a bubble title or whatever.
honest umbra
eh we werent gonna win anything
with that core
whoever says different, i want what theyre smoking
they excelled becuz they were allowed to run wild in different systems
celest zephyr
ooh james harden might not be an all star
honest umbra
they been good
celest zephyr
wait no he's a starter the f
misread lol
east guards are so much better than the forwards
don't think garland makes it tbh
prob lavine and lamelo or harden
dim kettle
I'm only watching the slam dunk contest. Cole Anthony is gonna be in it
honest umbra
(after lebron and jokic who are unanimous)
celest zephyr
forward depth is just weak this year in the nba
celest zephyr
and who else behind?
honest umbra
idk
celest zephyr
that's the issue lol the reserves aren't going to be good
or like at least significantly worse
prob some combination of butler, middleton, allen and tatum
all good players but man a guy like garland, brown, fvv, harden is not going to make it
celest zephyr
that wiggins made it
tbh wiggins didn't really deserve it. draymond, kat gobert deserve it over him
silk notch
Nobody likes Gobert though lmao
celest zephyr
two dpoy candidates not making it over wiggins is a joke
silk notch
And Draymond is injured
celest zephyr
sure but still more impactful than wiggins
west forwards is mid though so eh wiggins got lucky ig
honest umbra
u mean kpop fans helped him
silk notch
Lmao that got to be agaisnt the rules
silk notch
That seems to open a new meta if celebs are gonna get paid to support a player to make it into the all star game
honest umbra
nah
kpop group dude huge warriors fan
so he tried to get curry to captain and wiggins in
but LA and bron fans are much bigger lol
they destroyed curry
silk notch
Yea but I heard it was part of some deal with the warriors
honest umbra
but wiggins got in becuz kat/gobert/dray aint as popular
or well dray is but he was injured
i think
silk notch
So in the future are other players that are at that cusp just gonna their teams strike deals with celebrities to push for for votes? Cause I dont see whats stopping them since it worked so well for wiggins
celest zephyr
eh it was someone who's a fan of the team
honest umbra
but usually other celebs (rappers/actors) usually have a similar fanbase
so it wont be too crazy
celest zephyr
and plus the players and coaches still had to vote high enough for him
honest umbra
like meek doing it for 76ers wouldnt be too diff
his fans are already 76ers fan
kpop fans are just a diff breed
celest zephyr
no one to really do it for
celest zephyr
embiid is so good he easily made it and tobias or maxey aren't good enough to have a campaign over
silk notch
becuz kpop stans are wild
Yea that's true
honest umbra
drake been a ambassador for 5+ years
and raps fans havent gone that crazy
even tho they got a whole ass country
lol
this was just weird becuz 1 . the field was weak 2. it was kpop fans
celest zephyr
wiggins just ended up being the rare case where a guy is on the fringe of being good enough for it to work
silk notch
Okay yea that's good if it's rare it would be lame if this stuff got hella normalized and always had this much of an impact
celest zephyr
i don't really remember it happening in my time as a fan
like guys get votes for no reason like klay or kyrie or melo
but a) either not enough to matter or b) the players and coaches just don't vote much for the guy
it was just a perfect storm this time
rustic ore
So I was a bit confused but now I get it
Probably better to just enter the draft now but 
wet onyx
the giants really are just stealing the entire bills team
haughty moss
north bison
yeah hes officially done
simple seal
lmao
Still crazy to me the Packers only SB win with Rodgers was as a 6th seed lmao
celest zephyr
well schefter has his job still
no way he made this decision and didn't think of it at that point
celest zephyr
20,000 days since the leafs last won a cup
at this rate here's to 10,000 more days
robust grotto
at this rate here's to 10,000 more days
dim kettle
Just realized something. We can say now that even Tom Brady retired football before the Straw Hats even come close to finding the One Piece.
celest zephyr
or the leafs winning a stanley cup
north bison
Just realized something. We can say now that even Tom Brady retired football bef...
the entire duration of tom brady's career occured within the manga's serialization lmao
dim kettle
robust grotto
“Boo hoo”
dim kettle
You just need to go through my 2019 comments on Reddit during games to know the salt that comes from me as a Bucs fan.
wet onyx
considering i was born and raised in florida i should be a bucs fan but i just never liked them like i liked the giants
dim kettle
Yes, I still look back whenever a Bucs QB throws deep. Thanks, Famous Jameis.
dim kettle
wet onyx
that haunts true bucs fans
dim kettle
danny looked amazing in his debut
He did. But this is the thing with the Bucs. They made it a passion to make any rookie QB look better than they really are. lol
Also goes for backup QBs
wet onyx
He did. But this is the thing with the Bucs. They made it a passion to make any ...
unfortunately i still have faith in danny
i don’t want to but i do
robust grotto
celest zephyr
he isn't that bad
celest zephyr
can i interest you in one nick ritchie
robust grotto
But 5 on 5 we are TRASH
wet onyx
i’m praying that daboll can turn danny into a qb that isn’t bad
dim kettle
Daniel Jones isn't gonna be worth the 6th overall pick or even a starter. He's gonna be a great backup and nothing more.
robust grotto
can i interest you in one nick ritchie
No, our 4th line is actually good
wet onyx
Daniel Jones isn't gonna be worth the 6th overall pick or even a starter. He's g...
regardless i’m still gonna have faith in him
it’s just how i am i suppose
celest zephyr
No, our 4th line is actually good
how about justin holl
robust grotto
how about justin holl
Please, no, I have a family that I care about
dim kettle
Are any of the QBs in the 2023 draft any good?
wet onyx
bryce young looks decent
dim kettle
Like, it's understandable this year to not get a QB. But if I'm the Giants I'm throwing Jones away if I end up getting a top 10 pick.
dim kettle
God, that 5v5 stat. You aren't always gonna be on the PP ya know, fix the shit.
robust grotto
Which is why I’ve been preaching being buyers the past month or so
I totally get that winning the cup is very slim this season, but If they can find a scorer then they need to go for it. The thing about NYR is they are very pass happy, they prefer to pass it into the net. Desperately need a player who is selfish, to be honest with you guys
dim kettle
Maybe get a Tyler Toffoli or whatever.
wet onyx
Like, it's understandable this year to not get a QB. But if I'm the Giants I'm t...
i’m just so tired of being bad, i want the giants to actually compete in playoffs again
robust grotto
Something along the lines yeah. I wonder if there’s anyone out there with term that they can go for. Take a play out of Tampa’s book and get someone who isn’t a rental
celest zephyr
i know the rangers are playing well but man those expected numbers are rough
dim kettle
celest zephyr
I totally get that winning the cup is very slim this season, but If they can fin...
feels like the leafs at times
they just pass it around instead of shooting it
and oh look at that they happen to score whenever they just go for the net
robust grotto
The goaltending and special teams are really saving the rangers. We’re a weird team this season. I’m still really happy with the progression, but I would like for them to be progressive and address issues while they still can
celest zephyr
tbh you don't really need a scorer more of generate more chances around the net
robust grotto
feels like the leafs at times
I totally understand this lol
celest zephyr
to be a true contender sure but the isles were a good playoff team without a true scorer
dim kettle
I wouldn't say more pass heavily and more like they want clips to show on SportsNet the next day.
celest zephyr
the leafs have matthews and nylander yet lose in the first round
dim kettle
"LOOK HOW SEXY THAT GOAL IS!!!!"
celest zephyr
describes the leafs at times also
dim kettle
Like look at the Lightning. All Stamkos does is go to either circle on the PP and slams a puck at the net. And that's all he needs to do to win.
celest zephyr
that's why tavares is so underrated for the leafs when he plays well
he just makes all of the small plays that makes a team run
losing him and muzzin part way through the montreal series was costly
rustic mountain
Saw the official Brady news. Gonna lose some band wagon fans Shadow, that's good
At the cost of winning though 
dim kettle
The best I can get for a lot of the young Leaf players is they're trying to go for the basketball like trick plays they show on ESPN. And this isn't basketball. Hockey is an entirely different beast.
dim kettle
At the cost of winning though <:AngryCry:917144810790469724>
Who says the winning stops? 
celest zephyr
The best I can get for a lot of the young Leaf players is they're trying to go f...
that's why i don't mind it as much right now
the leafs are doing what it takes to win and get points
its not going to work in the playoffs sure but it ain't soft hockey either
dim kettle
"He reminds me of Brad Johnson" Yeah, great words of encouragement, Bruce. I forgot I was still living in 2006.
rustic mountain
Plus, Gronk is gonna take his ball and go home now. His big bro Tommy is gone
celest zephyr
"He reminds me of Brad Johnson" Yeah, great words of encouragement, Bruce. I for...
oilers front office
rustic mountain
Godwin COULD return
dim kettle
Plus, Gronk is gonna take his ball and go home now. His big bro Tommy is gone
TE is something the Bucs have to look into. Because Gronk is done, Brate is clearly washed now. And OJ Howard is what I thought he was we drafted him. A bum.
rustic mountain
Hey don't feel too bad on that
We were garbo at that position for a while once Gronk
Henry is awesome npw
dim kettle
I don't feel bad at all. I got to see a SB and actual success for once in my adult life. I'll sink into the Gulf again with pride. lol
celest zephyr
is bill still gm of the pats
rustic mountain
Yes
robust grotto
Those red wings teams were up there with the 80s oilers in terms of having almost half a roster of hall of famers
rustic mountain
And 6 rings makes the eventual suck easier
Besides. Now I am willingly signing up for pain
latent sorrel
Ronaldo is a better cricketer than LeBron
rustic mountain
I am a Blue Jays fan now
dim kettle
I don't think Bill will get to Holland levels of insanity though.
But I wish they'd keep Bill away from making 1st round picks.
celest zephyr
I am a Blue Jays fan now
I wish you good luck with Toronto sports
Winning isn’t normal here
Ain’t like the pats
dim kettle
Hey they got 2 more WS titles than my Rays will ever have.
wet onyx
if a replacement player makes the pro bowl because the other player is in the super bowl or something does it count as a pro bowl for both of them?
dim kettle
Yeah, because they were considered. Mitch Trubisky is a pro baller for a reason.
dim kettle
A lot of great players always get fucked whenever they're on a bad team. Mike Evans can attest to this.
Twitter
wet onyx
there’s no way anyone thinks winfield is better than mckinney
unless they don’t know about him
dim kettle
Twitter
wet onyx
Twitter
burnt cedar
wet onyx
are the giants going against the jags next year
wet onyx
do you know if it’s a jags home game?
cause if it’s in jacksonville i’ll be able to go but if it’s in ny i can’t
wet onyx
https://twitter.com/BuffaloBills/status/1488572866715021319
what a bad day
dim kettle
Twitter
celest zephyr
eh the bills weren't going to give up all of their front office and coaching staff
celest zephyr
josh allen going to score 50 points on the giants next time he plays them
celest zephyr
he'll do it in practice with the third string offence
rustic ore
Respect Tom Brady
That man helped bring my favorite team and SB and some of the most consistently elite QB performances I’ve ever seen
Even though the vast majority of his legacy was made in NE it is both humbling and a privilege to know that my fav team will forever me associated even partially in the legacy of the GOAT
dim kettle
A statue in front of RayJay needs to be built ASAP
rustic ore
Fr
wet onyx
are you a giants fan? i can only assume so
but yes daniel jones is a certified hall of famer
celest zephyr
hof benchwarmer
wet onyx
danny dimes>brady
rustic ore
@rustic mountain I’ll never not be grateful to your boys for sharing even a bit of Brady with us. Dude changed our down and out of luck franchise for the better immediately
rustic ore
Same with LVD
rustic mountain
Grateful to Bill for basically saying "fuck you Tom" lol
celest zephyr
big mac jones
wet onyx
mike will probably be a hof’er too, assuming he continues to put up numbers
rustic mountain
But I am happy he went to Tampa and got a ring
Tom is gonna be one of my favorite players ever. Was a magical ride
Now that he is retired I can start my big Brady frame
wet onyx
the memories he gave me in those two superbowls are lifelong memories
celest zephyr
Twitter
celest zephyr
don't know why any giants fans would be mad about brady
wet onyx
not surprising
dim kettle
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1488588058874331141
I heard Homer Simpson is looking to own the Broncos.
celest zephyr
other than not beating the eagles twice
wet onyx
don't know why any giants fans would be mad about brady
i couldn’t be mad at him, i love brady tbh
legendary career deserves respect
i can’t see anyone ever surpassing him
rustic ore
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1488588058874331141
Yeesh, I mean if a relatively small franchise like the Panthers went for over 2 then I could see a legendary franchise like the Broncos go for 4
dim kettle
It's still hard to believe that Mike Evans has a ring. At one point I was just hoping he'd see playoff football in red and pewter.
rustic mountain
Evans got one. Happy for the dude
wet onyx
it’s crazy that bill gates could probably just buy every nfl team whole
rustic ore
It's still hard to believe that Mike Evans has a ring. At one point I was just h...
For real, feel like the last 2 years were an amazing dream
rustic mountain
Holy damn. The NFC south is gonna be terrible next year
rustic mountain
Tampa could still win the division lmao
wet onyx
nfc east still on top for being the worst
rustic mountain
I don't know man
celest zephyr
dallas is still solid
wet onyx
at least it’s something we can beat everyone else in
rustic mountain
Philly is gonna get better. Dallas chokes but does well in the regular season
Washington trying to get a qb to go with a solid core
celest zephyr
jimmy g to washington
rustic mountain
NYG are. Trying I will say
wet onyx
it might be bias but i do see the giants being good in the future
rustic mountain
It depends entirely on Daboll and Jones
celest zephyr
well they might draft qb next year
rustic mountain
If Daboll is a fraud under the shadow of Josh Allen
wet onyx
i don’t think we stick with jones either way
rustic ore
I like Daboll, and I think they have some decent pieces on O
celest zephyr
yeah jones feels like a bridge qb at this point
rustic ore
All a matter of getting QB settled for them and that O-line fixed
wet onyx
i think toney has massive potential if used correctly
rustic mountain
The d in NY isn't bad
dim kettle
Really depends on how Kyle Trask pans out for Tampa. I mean, Brady approves of him. But knowing the Bucs, we're not allowed to have great QBs built within.
celest zephyr
heck with offensive weapons and if the defence shows up they don't even need a good o line
wet onyx
our d is actually alright
celest zephyr
bengals proved that
wet onyx
true true
rustic mountain
Joe Burrow is also a special talent man
celest zephyr
2023 qb class seems good
wet onyx
yeah but you cannot discredit the rest of the team saying it’s just burrow
rustic mountain
I am not at all
I am just saying qb play matters
There's a reason why the 3 best afc teams were also lead by the afc's 3 best qbs
rustic mountain
Allen, Burrow, and Mahomes are gonna be forces to be reckoned with
celest zephyr
and herbert
wet onyx
don’t forget herb
rustic mountain
Herbert yes but
celest zephyr
they were one of the best offenses tbf
dim kettle
You need a good QB in order to win in this league today period. You saw what happens when you try to hide your QB as much as possible in SF. Once Jimmy G had to make plays when it mattered he folded like a house of cards.
rustic mountain
Doesn't go anywhere
celest zephyr
feels bad maybe he'll leave in like 5 years
wet onyx
herbert is a future giant
rustic mountain
Lol okay let's not go that far
rustic mountain
celest zephyr
You need a good QB in order to win in this league today period. You saw what hap...
why they got lance
he better pan out or its going to be rough
rustic mountain
The next couple years will prove a lot
wet onyx
i was hoping we get deshaun but that’s damn near impossible now
dim kettle
He should've been starting day one. But outdated philosophies
rustic mountain
Everyone wants to do the Rodgers Farve thing
But people forget the key piece of that
The old qb has to be actually good to teach anything
And the new qb has to be worth a damn
Plus system fit
dim kettle
I just had a essay war with Juba over this. At the end of the day, you don't trade a big package to draft a QB high to not start him day one.
celest zephyr
its fine to put a guy like love or like a lower round qb since you didn't use a high pick or give up a ton to get him
lance was taken pick 3 and the 49ers traded up a fortune to get him
you don't do that and barely play the guy
dim kettle
You traded up big because Kyle and Lynch knew that Jimmy G wasn't the guy. And the fact that Kyle made it his duty to undercut the dude is fucking stupid.
celest zephyr
He does that with rookies
dim kettle
Kyle's doing shit wrong then because what happens in practice and what actually happens on the field or two different things. They need to learn, Kyle, stop trying to undercut them.
Because it makes Lynch look like a clown and makes Kyle look like an overprotective mother,
dim ledge
I feel like every day I read Siren slandering Jimmy or Kyle
dim kettle
Bill Belichick started the rookie QB day one and even cut Cam to do so. Who do you trust more in this situation. The guy who won 6 SBs and tons and tons of division titles or the guy who choked not one but 2 SB leads and nothing in between?
I don't see it as slander. Jimmy G has proven time and time again that he isn't the guy and the Niners trading 2 1st round picks to get his replacement prove that. And Kyle is still using the outdated philosophy of sitting a young QB when you need to do anything you can to see if that young QB is the guy or not.
You have to maximize that rookie contract.
And also effects future drafts.
celest zephyr
brady for broncos owner
dim kettle
Peyton Manning intensifies.
celest zephyr
at this point its just wait and see
jimmy g will eventually be traded and the 49ers likely bring in a decent backup qb
haughty moss
Twitter
celest zephyr
that was obvious
if the team goes like 1-1 or 0-2 in that stretch then its give up
robust grotto
QB philosophy aside, the thing that made SF comfy with the trade has been their draft record. SF has continued to find big value in later rounds with this regime and they are banking on that trend going forward
Not saying right or wrong but that played a part in their decision making, imo
dim kettle
The problem is what exactly did Jimmy G do that was significant on that 3 game winning streak? Either Kyle overrates Jimmy G's ability or he's very stubborn.
celest zephyr
he won games
dim kettle
He won games but what did he actually do?
Throw 5 yard pass to Deebo that was made into a big play?
celest zephyr
third down conversions
he has good touch on short-medium passes
don't want to rely on him but when he doesn't make a blunder he plays solid complementary football
kinda opposite of lance can provide now besides jimmy being passable with running if he has to
dim kettle
And you're saying Lance if he played more than 3 games couldn't get to that level? And add another thing to the offensive game by using his feet?
celest zephyr
he'd get better but based on how well he can throw now and the touch he has no he'd take significantly longer
dim kettle
I mean, you're hiding the QB as much as possible with a dude whose been there since 2017.
dim ledge
I don't see it as slander. Jimmy G has proven time and time again that he isn't ...
I mean, valid, but even from your POV I think you can easily understand how it can be taken as slander, especially when, no offense, it's as intensive as you do it. It's an open forum sports channel and I, of all people, am in the least position here to hold objective points on the NFL, just seems like you're going a bit hard is all.
That's all 
Not to say that you're not allowed to do it
Just an observation
dim kettle
It's as intensive as it is because it's been a problem for years. The data of success of when a rookie QB starts day one contradicts the notion that rookie QBs learn best by sitting. And coaches and the media voluntarily refuse to understand that.
It's nothing against Jimmy G and Kyle in particular I attack any organization that will try everything in their power to undercut a rookie QB. Hence Andy Dation Justin Fields situation
Twitter
celest zephyr
about time
never got firing a guy because he sucks and then hiring his assistant who hasn't proven that he doesn't suck
dim kettle
Another coordinator fired in GB after a playoff game. You know that has to hurt Matt LaFleur rep a bit.
I mean, Nathaniel Hackett just got hired as HC in Denver so there's that.
celest zephyr
bigger indictment that he wasn't fired midseason
anyone with eyes could see that GB's special teams were beyond even the normal definition of terrible
and have sucked for years
dim kettle
Just like the defense was horrible in 2020.
rustic ore
Since the Raiders hired McD then Bisaccia could be a big signing for them potentially
dim kettle
Makes you wonder what the Packers and LaFleur will look like in a world without Rodgers.
rustic ore
Cause he's been a special teams coordinator his entire career?
celest zephyr
ah forgot his history
dim kettle
That's what he was till the Gruden stuff came in.
celest zephyr
thought he was oc/dc before
dim kettle
I was gonna laugh my ass off if the Raiders would've picked Gus Bradley as interim HC.
I'm actually really curious how Josh McDaniels will do in his real second run as HC of a team. Because many like to shit on him what he did in Denver in 2009/2010. But it's been over a decade and many forget McDaniels was the one picked a lot of the core those SB Bronco teams had.
celest zephyr
news but not news
rustic mountain
Imma say Pittsburgh for this guy
unborn sandal
lol, the state of the pitch in the Bolivia-Chile match is awful lmao
wet onyx
brian flores/antonio brown collab????
dim kettle
robust grotto
I’d argue that the bigger story is Stephen Ross offered to pay him 100k per loss, that’s insane
With the giants one, not trying to defend them, but the NFL policy is that an X amount of black and POC candidates must be interviewed
rustic ore
He better have some proof of that
robust grotto
If they giants already had their mind made up on Daboll, they still have to interview black candidates per the leagues rule
it’s a non story imo but I could have it wrong, I’ll admit
rustic ore
There is no shot he wins in court
wet onyx
flores was literally maras guy, he damn near hired him
celest zephyr
yeah but they can't have chosen daboll prior to it
then invoke the rule
and also its pretty unprofessional to have basically hired a guy while still taking interviews
robust grotto
they didn’t hire Daboll at the time though, they probably felt that internally he was their guy. The right thing to do would’ve been to interview the black candidates first
celest zephyr
if someone outside of your organization has an idea that someone is internally their guy then something's wrong
robust grotto
Wym? I’m a little lost. Bellichick knowing what the giants are going to do doesn’t mean something is wrong, just means he’s connected with them still
dim kettle
I'm not gonna be long on this case. But let's say if the roles were reverse and the Giants were gonna hire Flores before even interviewing Daboll, do we even have a case here?
chilly flare
celest zephyr
depending on how the rule works then maybe
wet onyx
flores won’t win the case
celest zephyr
yeh don't think so either
robust grotto
Again, the right thing in hindsight would’ve been to interview black candidates first. Idk, realistically it’s probably super common for front offices to have their mind made up on certain guys. Maybe the Giants didn’t like Flores at all, even before the interview itself, , but because he’s a candidate they still have to do the interview process
robust grotto
It is for sure, def didn’t expect this
celest zephyr
internal stuff like this rarely gets out
robust grotto
Bill is clearly still buddies with Mara. Judge hiring and now this leaked text shows it more and more lol
chilly flare
I actually think Flores will win
celest zephyr
this could be huge in terms belicheck
since this opens up a whole can of worms in terms of his texts
celest zephyr
NFL and pats going to pay to cover it up
celest zephyr
Another NFL issue with texts, emails, and racism
and if the ross thing is true then that's completely against the game
wet onyx
flores is really screwing up his chances to be a hc anywhere
celest zephyr
ross has to get removed if that's the case
wet onyx
I actually think Flores will win
he won’t
robust grotto
ross has to get removed if that's the case
That’s the bigger story, imo
Offering to pay your HC a significant amount of money per games they lose…. That’s destroying the integrity of the sport and the league as a whole
dim kettle
I feel like in any sport. To say they're some racism within hiring coaches, GMs etc. Let's put it this way. They are only 30-32 slots to be a GM or HC compared to the masses rosters teams have. And whites in US at least take a lot of the population. I'm not saying there isn't racism involved but I'm not saying it's all about racism either.
chilly flare
Uh
dim kettle
Like for Flores. I mean, this is the same guy who did everything in his power to undercut his young QB for 2 seasons.
And had fire multiple OL coaches.
wet onyx
the second i heard that i didn’t want flores at all, don’t want that for the giants
dim kettle
At least you can say Adam Gase made the playoffs once.
wet onyx
i suppose so
chilly flare
Shadow I know you are not saying Adam Gase is a better coach
dim kettle
I'm not saying Gase is a better coach, But I'm also saying he did more for the Dolphins in 3 seasons than Flores did.
I still don't know how Chris Grier didn't get fired along with Flores.
chilly flare
Flores won 8 straight games with that roster and an owner who was actively trying to get him to tank by paying him. Sure he never got the OC right and that is a problem but to say that that team wasnt headed in a good direction is nonsense
Flores shouldnt have been fired
dim kettle
Flores won 8 straight games with that roster and an owner who was actively tryin...
Good for him. He beat the Texans, Jets twice, a broken Ravens team, the Panthers, and a Saints team that had no QB. And what happened when he had to face a playoff team. His team folded like he always does against playoff teams.
And must I point out he had to lose 7 before winning 8
chilly flare
Good for him. He beat the Texans, Jets twice, a broken Ravens team, the Panthers...
I forgot he had the chiefs or bucs roster
He did well with what he had
That saints team also beat the bucs twice
with no QB
The jets beat the titans
It is the NFL
rustic mountain
I agree with Sunny. Flores was not perfect, but he was a damn good coach imo. Mistakes were made, literally a first time head coach, but it's kinda wrong to say Flores wasn't a good coach
robust grotto
Agree sunny
chilly flare
Wins are wins and anyone will take them
robust grotto
But it’s obvious him and the owner had issues
The firing had nothing to do with on field product
chilly flare
But it’s obvious him and the owner had issues
In the TMZ article flores states that the owner wanted him to tank and was going to pay him 100k per loss
rustic mountain
I think it's telling that Daboll had the job before Flores even interviewed though. Not a great look
The 100k per loss thing is also disasterous but
Tbh we are just seeing the true nature of the league which was already suspected
robust grotto
Yup ! That’s what I’m saying, that has to be the bigger story here. Owner is willing to pay a HC under the table THAT MUCH per loss? Something is really wrong there. Owner isn’t right, Flores called him out and that’s probably how the rift started
League integrity right out the window of an owner is that committed to the tank
chilly flare
I think Daboll is a better fit anyway. I think the point Flores is making is that he was just being interviewed because of the rooney rule and nothing else. There should be better protocols in place to ensure black people/coaches get a fair shake than the rooney rule. Idk what those protocols should be but obviously the rooney rule sucks
rustic mountain
I agree
And I think Flores should persue that
The Rooney Rule is easy to bypass and a lot of coaches are being fucked over because of it
robust grotto
Has Denver hired a HC?
rustic mountain
Yes
robust grotto
word
rustic mountain
Hackett of the Packers
robust grotto
Yeah so obviously the rooney rule isn’t enough
Because not even black coaches and GMs are being hired
dim kettle
This guy said it best. https://www.reddit.com/r/miamidolphins/comments/s0lbmx/comment/hs2t98u/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
rustic mountain
Flores is a good coach man. I thought he had a chance of taking over in Chicago
dim kettle
"Ultimately after 3 years Flores has an under .500 record and had Miami in no better spot than Gase or Philbin. 0 playoff appearances and buckled under all play in games.
Philbin: 24-28 Gase: 23-25 Flores: 24-25
His 7 game winning streak came against 5 back up QBs and a depleted Ravens Defense and even those games were a struggle.
He rarely ever beat a healthy team with a winning record. (Rams 2020, Patriots 2020,2022 are the exceptions)
He consistently has players KVN, and players trainers Tua, saying he is impossible to work or communicate with.
I think when you really breakdown his tenure the firing doesn't seem as shocking."
chilly flare
The fact that Eric Bieniemy doesnt have a HC job is insane to me
robust grotto
like I won’t debate that aspect at all
rustic mountain
The fact that Eric Bieniemy doesnt have a HC job is insane to me
Absolutely true man
That's a damn crime I swear
If Josh McDaniels can get a shot doing something
Passing on Bieniemy is just flat out dumb
robust grotto
but idk I don’t think he has much of a case at least in terms of the giants. GM came from Buffalo and had his mind made up from the jump I would imagine
rustic mountain
I mean even if he did
The look is god awful
Daboll being hired before Flores interviews?
That's fucked
rustic mountain
You are still taking interviews for a position that is filled for one
Which as someone who has applied for jobs like that
Really really pisses someone off
robust grotto
Right I think I understand it
rustic mountain
Two, if they didn't interview any coaches or interviewed in bad faith, that's fucked up as well
robust grotto
Right that’s where the Rooney rule sucks - because in theory they wouldn’t interview white candidates with bad faith
rustic mountain
Like "oh we will interview black coaches, but we are just doing it because we have to not because we will actually hire them"
Is fucked
rustic mountain
That's where the problem is
robust grotto
exactly
celest zephyr
why the rule just sucks
chilly flare
"Ultimately after 3 years Flores has an under .500 record and had Miami in no be...
Flores had back to back winning seasons with a roster that the owner obviously didnt think was that good because he was trying to pay flores to tank. Instead of tanking he ended up with a winning record. Also, there are also plenty of players who loved him as a coach
celest zephyr
the bigger issue is with tua
robust grotto
We’re on the same page but just with different outcomes I think
chilly flare
I think Tomlin is the only black head coach in the league rn
rustic mountain
Either way, I think Bienemy and Flores being passed over for the likes of McDaniels and Hackett is just. Kinda dumb tbh
robust grotto
That I cannot argue whatsoever
celest zephyr
eh hackett seems to be a good coach
robust grotto
and I don’t want to either
rustic mountain
Hackett also was an OC for a team that was lead by Rodgers
Who was running that offense
celest zephyr
players like the guy
chilly flare
Hackett got hired to entice rodgers to denver
celest zephyr
and a HC doesn't have to run plays anyways
celest zephyr
eh i mean my point is ig i can see why they hired hackett
rustic mountain
And those two are the most successful coaches in the league
Sure you have your McVays
But it's not necessary
celest zephyr
bienemy sure but idk flores deff has his issues off of strictly coaching
chilly flare
People were talking about Kellen Moore getting interviews
rustic mountain
Flores I think has a strong future. Maybe he isn't totally totally ready but he definitely is better than a lot of candidates
chilly flare
Why on earth would you look at him before Bieniemy
chilly flare
Flores I think has a strong future. Maybe he isn't totally totally ready but he ...
Agree
rustic mountain
Kellen Moore and Kevin O'Connell could be coaches one day but you're on point about Bienemy
Like
robust grotto
There’s only 2 POC HCs yeah? Tomlin and Saleh
rustic mountain
Dude has done nothing but help create an amazing offense (admittedly with an otherwordly talent)
But if you're hiring Hackett who had Rodgers
chilly flare
I cant even remember who the bears hired
rustic mountain
They hired someone????
haughty moss
Matt Eberflus
dim kettle
That's more on BEARS FOOTBALL!! more than anything.
rustic mountain
Bruh.
robust grotto
GM is black, Ryan Poles
rustic mountain
What in the fuck
People out here hiring the DC of the team that lost out on the playoffs because they couldn't beat the Jags
And not Eric Bienemy
haughty moss
rustic mountain
What the fuck
dim kettle
Ryan Poles didn't have full control of what he wanted at HC and anyone who said he was is a liar. Poles did pick a HC from a list of HCs the Bears approved of.
Because BEARS FOOTBALL!!
rustic mountain
The Bears are fucked
robust grotto
smh
haughty moss
Dumpster franchise. Any fans left free yourself from their reign.
dim kettle
Like if Poles had total control he would've picked Eric Bieniemy as HC. No way it only takes few days after Poles is hired as GM to pick a HC.
rustic mountain
Bears: K you can pick from these dudes
approved candidates
1. Some dude who coached the Colts defense
2. The Headcoach of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers
dim kettle
It probably the Colts dude, the former Dolphin HC, the DB coach of Niners.
robust grotto
Only 2 European GMs, second one was just hired last week
dim kettle
haughty moss
She gets it
celest zephyr
haughty moss
Kobe disciples
celest zephyr
Dumpster franchise. Any fans left free yourself from their reign.
bad owners should just sell but the nfl makes too much money for anyone to do it
dim kettle
celest zephyr
the issue is that if it exists it doesn't go far enough to go beyond like a farce
but then imo it should just never exist anyways
like if you have something like this then do it at a lower level to build talent up for like video cordinators etc and not at the highest level
where like guys who are in contention usually some way or another have enough merit and teams know them well enough that this is just pointless
robust grotto
I love that the panthers went back to the palm logo for their helmet decals
Goes so hard
celest zephyr
panthers could make a run this year
leafs are chokers but if they somehow beat either tampa or florida in r1 then they are a threat
robust grotto
leafs are chokers but if they somehow beat either tampa or florida in r1 then th...
I just want to see another Florida - Tampa series maaaan
celest zephyr
as a leafs fan i am legally obligated to say that i prefer leafs - florida or leafs tampa
robust grotto
yes I totally understand and genuinely
I am rooting for you guys to win R1
I still think a TOR NYR series would be sick. We’re both so… inconsistent but also good
Laffy 🙂 @dim ledge
celest zephyr
high end talent bailing out the leafs vs goaltending bailing out the rangers
dim ledge
Laffy 🙂 <@216582410756685824>
robust grotto
high end talent bailing out the leafs vs goaltending bailing out the rangers
Matthews vs Igor
Featuring.. Artemiy Panarin, Mitch Marner, Mika Zibanejad, William Nylander, Adam Fox, Jack Campbell and many more
Twitter
Twitter
but… everyone knows that. you’ve been doing it for years
celest zephyr
Matthews vs Igor
Featuring.. Artemiy Panarin, Mitch Marner, Mika Zibanejad, Wil...
pretty much if matthews shows up
if its like last season then mathews is featuring act and its nylander and spezza vs igor
the coyotes let it be known that they are tanking after already making it clear that they are tanking
its like if the jets midway through the season said give assets for us to be your cash dump
the devils should just quit
celest zephyr
https://twitter.com/sportslogosnet/status/1488692576949608453
two years and they come up with this trash
dim kettle
Forever the Commies.
dim ledge
Can someone put the devil's out of their misery
celest zephyr
i agree
dim kettle
dim ledge
https://fxtwitter.com/NJDevils/status/1488688230883119104?s=20&t=TlSZQTeu_eCIZsR...
*past 5 years
rustic ore
7-1, yeesh
celest zephyr
it was 6-0
celest zephyr
honestly they should just let teams forefit if it was a massive blowout
rustic ore
....you know what that means
celest zephyr
if the leafs blow a 7-1 lead i am going to vanish from here for like a week
dim kettle
And this is right after the Leafs scored like 4 unanswered against the Devils yesterday. So in total. that's about 13 goals the Devils have given up to the Leafs in 48 hours.
dim ledge
Rangers fans enjoy the devil's getting BTFO'd more than winning 
dim kettle
It's shit like this is why Vasy is amazing to have.
celest zephyr
feels bad for campbell
dim ledge
@robust grotto get in here were shitting on the devils
celest zephyr
he was having an amazing season and he's just fallen off hard
dim kettle
You know it's gonna be 10 years since the Devils were actual contenders. 2017-2018 was a fluke.
dim kettle
And Taylor Ham.
dim ledge
Had that for breakfast
dim kettle
And the leftovers from NY
dim ledge
New Jersey: Diet NY
celest zephyr
explains why the jets and giants are diet teams
dim kettle
Let's face it though Newark traffic probably puts up a better fight than the Devils do most nights.
rustic ore
Damn
dim ledge
For sure
Turnpike is a bitch and a half
There have been days where it was cheaper to go to a devils game than to take a round trip train ride to NYC
Lmao
dim kettle
Yeah, Kings beat the shit out of them
dim ledge
Christ. Memories of Jonathan Quick being a brick wall
dim kettle
The Kings jobbing the Canucks in the first round was the biggest shock in those playoffs.
Never win the president trophy. It's only a 1st round elimination away
celest zephyr
avalanche on track for another second round exit
dim kettle
Someone had to take the Caps place. They're just Steamed Caps now.
dim kettle
'Now that's what I call a playoff push"
dim ledge
Preds actually look good this season to me for a deep playoff push
Forsberg and Josi playing ridiculously yet again
dim kettle
They weren't half bad last season in the second half. Could be a second round exit.
celest zephyr
Someone had to take the Caps place. They're just Steamed Caps now.
the true leafs way of misery would be to make the second round then lose in the second round for another 4 years straight
dim ledge
I'm honestly still shocked the habs beat them
dim kettle
I'm not shocked that the Habs beat the Leafs. I'm shocked how they ended up losing. 3-1 lead shit down the drain you would've thought they were playing in Atlanta.
celest zephyr
the worst part is how they proceeded to suck for three straight games
how do you dominate a team then implode right after
dim kettle
Literally took one turnover in the Leafs zone to kill Dangle's optimism.
celest zephyr
peak hope only to give misery: play poorly somehow come back make one blunder and lose
dim kettle
"The Leafs gave them One... Thing..." Is all you need to say.
That whole stanley cup playoffs were full of derp moments. Fleury having a brain fart in game 3 in the 3rd round is still very funny.
celest zephyr
i unfortunately couldn't think of it at that moment
matthews getting robbed by price still gives me ptsd
dim kettle
It was such a cruel joke that Price's only Finals had to be against my team so I couldn't root for him.
And Heddy get's the OT goal for the win.
celest zephyr
even sadder that it might be price's last nhl moment
robust grotto
Devils in the mud but really, who cares
dim kettle
True. They've basically been as irrelevant as the NY Jets have been the last decade.
robust grotto
Absolutely it’s hard to argue that
dim kettle
And my Dad is a Jets and Devils fan. And even he can't really say much for the Devils or Jets. All about MAH future.
haughty moss
https://fxtwitter.com/NJDevils/status/1488688230883119104?s=20&t=TlSZQTeu_eCIZsR...
Speaking of the Devils I still love this from their acc
dim kettle
Maybe they should hire the admin for that account as their HC.
celest zephyr
the memes are going to be glorious
dim kettle
🎵 **Hail to the Commies...**🎵
haughty moss
the commanders lmao smh
celest zephyr
the washington tank commanders
dim kettle
Still think the Washington Fuck Dan Snyders was a better name.
haughty moss
more ammo to make fun of them thx washington
celest zephyr
Still think the Washington Fuck Dan Snyders was a better name.
Washington Deadskins
damn didn't know kreider is different this season
dim kettle
Not sure the Magic are playing well or the Bulls are playing down to the competition rn. Probably both.
celest zephyr
the old art of the steelers
robust grotto
damn didn't know kreider is different this season
next level out of nowhere
celest zephyr
man 20% shooting percentage is insane
dim kettle
dim kettle
You can at least say the Raptors have more heart than the Celtics have. They actually want to win games.
dim kettle
It's not the first time in 20 years that the Celtics rely on remembering championship runs. It went from "Remember the 80s?" to "Remember 2008?"
dim kettle
A lot of the young players need to learn how to end games. Because they got frustrated.
I think that's the problem with the Magic. You rarely ever see them lose big.
haughty moss
Def some truth to that
celest zephyr
that's an issue with a lot of young teams
being able to close out games
especially when some veteran players get under their skin or a few things don't go their way
haughty moss
yeah true overall
lilac valve
Heat got half its roster in a slump man lol. How Jimmy gonna facilitate when Herro and Robinson score less combined these last 3 games then Jimmy did against Raptors last game (week ago)
dim ledge
Of all the teams
OF ALL THE TEAMS
To snap the avs win streak
It's the coyotes
How the hell does this happen
dim kettle
The hockey gods love some comedy
honest umbra
We all know this is the hockey god's specifically targeting Kroenke
what about arsenal?
dim ledge
what about arsenal?
Kroenke targets arsenal
honest umbra
Kroenke targets arsenal
but his rams are in the sb in the stadium he built
mans craxy