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#sports
dim ledge
What really? I was reading they didn't
Wtf?
What are people talking about then
All pro maybe?
rustic ore
Deebo, Bosa, Williams, Juszcyk, and Kittle all got PB nods this year
Might have been All Pro
I'll check
dim ledge
Yeah thats what it is
People are pissed that Maxx Crosby got it over him
Which is probably fair, lol
rustic ore
Yeah Bosa probably should've gotten it over him but credit where credit is due, Crosby was a beast this season
Was ranked as the 2nd best edge rusher all season by PFF for however much weight you want to give those analytics things
dim ledge
Is that Juszcyk guy decent
rustic ore
Or DE I mean
He's very versatile
He's SF's fullback
So he's a damn good blocker but I've seen him flash his hands and his speed when Shanahan gets him the ball
Honestly he probably could be a starting TE if he wanted to make that kind of switch
dim ledge
They'd have to run two tight ends then bc no way he gets it over Kittle
If that's even possible
rustic ore
Yeah Kittle is an animal
Happy he's healthy again
He's a fun player to watch
Now I haven't watched a ton of 49ers games this year but based on reputation one guy on that team who I think could be viewed as being shafted out of recognition this season is probably Fred Warner
That dude is a beast
rustic ore
Personally I'm little surprised he got no love but then a guy like Micah Parsons gets 1st team all pro and a pro bowl nod as a rookie
Mind you he's had a fantastic season
But he's a pass rusher, not a coverage LB
I'm almost 99% certain they've primarily used as a DE and that he was graded poorly in pass coverage
So from that perspective I personally wouldn't give him props as a linebacker
But š¤·āāļø
dim ledge
I think I understand what you mean
Basically he got nominated for that position even though he wasn't really deployed in that position despite technically having that position as his normal position?
rustic ore
Yeah
dim ledge
Happens all the time in footy too
left shore
you a Dallas fan ?
rustic ore
It's a frustrating technicality that I feel kinda robs certain players out of recognition that they probably deserve
I'm a Bucs fan, he's a 49ers fan
left shore
Ohhh
rustic ore
Hbu harshen?
left shore
Ik you are a bucs fan š¤
I just watch games for fun tbh
But hey Iām from Tampa too
dim ledge
A friend of mine who's a niners fan convinced me to be a fan of them and gave me alot of insight into the sport + my brother and his husband live in SF and I love the city
So figured may as well
left shore
Can we agree though that Zeke fell off hard ?
dim ledge
Also I like historic teams like that
rustic ore
Can we agree though that Zeke fell off hard ?
I second this
dim ledge
I think he's just had a poor season, if I had to guess, but I know dick about the sport so
rustic ore
He just hasn't looked the same to me since he got paid
dim ledge
Despite the silly mistake tonight I think dak, so far, is living up to that paycheck
rustic ore
Same thing happened with Jaylon Smith for them but just not as dramatically, since he got cut and all
Yeah Dak is solid
rustic ore
Despite the silly mistake tonight I think dak, so far, is living up to that payc...
What's gonna be interesting to see though is how will Dallas try and build around him since he's eating up a fair bit of their cap space each year
Big money like that makes it harder to do
left shore
Canāt wait for skip bayless reaction tomorrow LMFAOO
dim ledge
Ugh skip bayless
rustic ore
He's a pro blowhard
Don't take anything he says too seriously, he gets paid to give hot takes
dim ledge
See I like when old pros commentate/give like, their takes on shit
Otherwise you get a room full of Piers Morgans
left shore
No like he gonna be crying LOL itās just funny
dim ledge
Is he a cowboys fan?
rustic ore
HUGE
dim ledge
Oh Christ
Guaranteed
"the rule needs to be rewritten"
"these refs shouldn't officiate another game"
left shore
rustic ore
I kid you not, he will spend entire shows or majority of shows doing multiple segments and discussions about the Cowboys
left shore
I liked the new playoffs though
dim ledge
Completely will ignore the fact prior to the 4th and inches that became a...what, 4th and 11?
They had the ball skimming going over the line
And then decided it was a solid 7 inches begins the line
New playoffs?
rustic ore
Cause they added 7 seeds I think last year?
It used to just be 6 teams from each conference got into the playoffs in the NFL, now it's 7 from each
So the format for the playoffs got changed
dim ledge
Does that make for a longer playoffs
rustic ore
So wild card weekend went from 4 games to 6 games
Not really no
Just makes the wild card round slightly bigger than it previously was
So it used to be 4 games this week, 4 games next week, 2 games the week after, and then the Super Bowl 2 weeks after those
Now it's 6 games this week, 4 next, 2 after that, then the Super Bowl 2 weeks after
rustic ore
Yeah
Old format gaves the teams that finished with the best and 2nd best records in each conference a bye in the wild card round
Since they added 7 seeds though now the 2 seeds have to play in the wild card round and only the 1 seeds get the bye
dim ledge
Figures, that makes sense
rustic ore
Sorry if I worded that poorly
left shore
Yup
dim ledge
A team finishing second in the division really shouldn't be having the same privileges as a team finishing first anyways
Way i see it
rustic ore
Conference not division, but yeah
dim ledge
Oh right, that
rustic ore
I think the logic the NFL was going for when they decided to make a bye week for the teams that finished with the best records was "well these guys are clearly great, let's try and make it as easy as possible for them to get to the super bowl"
dim ledge
And you guys will play the winner of ARI-LAR
rustic ore
Yeah 
I kind of view it as picking our poison though, cause it's either go up against a Rams team that kicked their asses early in the season again or go up against a Cardinals teams that probably will be getting DeAndre Hopkins and potentially JJ Watt back
This on top of arguably our best offensive lineman in Tristan Wirfs getting a high ankle sprain in the game yesterday and obviously being down Chris Godwin who is our 2nd best WR cause he tore his ACL like a month ago in the regular season
So tough sledding
rustic ore
I honestly can't pick 
They're both really good teams
Maybe the Rams cause Stafford has been turning the ball over a lot lately?
But McVay is such a good offensive mind that I wouldn't shocked if he drew up play after play to let Stafford dice up our defense again
dim ledge
Either way you feel nervous
rustic ore
Yeah
Honestly I'm just hoping for an entertaining game where both sides leave healthy
I have 0 expectations that Tampa is gonna be able to repeat this year
If I'm being perfectly honest I'd say Green Bay looks like the best team in the game rn, and they're my pick to run the table
So I'm really just taking it week to week
Little bummed there is only 4 weeks left of NFL football and then none until August but that's just life
At least that dark period can force me to try and get more interested in other sports
Try being the operative word
dim ledge
Yeah, it was nice to beat the cowboys but
Packers will most likely advance
Though we did have a good and close game against them earlier this season
rustic ore
I'd love to see the 49ers advance for your and Juba's sakes and potentially run the table
I hope everyone in this server who is an NFL fan gets to experience what Shadow and I did last year, or what Sab did in 2018 at least once
It was a great feeling
dim ledge
If you decide to give your attention to footy or NHL in the off-season I'd be more than happy to explain stuff, you've been very helpful in my understanding of the sport
simple seal
Bangels it is
simple seal
Just took another 50 for the 2nd one 
simple seal
Mark Sanchez 
left shore
LMFAO I JUST SAW THAT TOO
simple seal
Sometimes I forget they made back to back AFCCG
celest zephyr
Twitter
simple seal
Joe Flacco was actually good... for a lil while lol
Especially on that Super Bowl run
dim kettle
robust grotto
Ehhh not for me. the leafs fans have only had that mindset recently to be fair. Cowboy fans are always like that
If anything Iād put Yankee fans closer to the boys than the leafs fans
27 Rings brooo gonna make it 28 this year !!!
celest zephyr
didn't realize its a holiday in america until now
no wonder there are games on at 3pm
people are enjoying sabres red wings for their holiday
dim kettle
Yeah, Martin Luther King day
celest zephyr
just a regular day for me
dim kettle
hasty basin
Now I'm happy
robust grotto
burnt cedar
The classic 334 formation https://twitter.com/squawkanews/status/1483154094021824515?s=21
Twitter
sweet tree
no mbappe
how is salah in the top 3 finalist but not in the team xi
kinda odd
think something similar happened with the ballon d or one
lewa deserved that so congrats to him, 2nd one he's won now.
sweet tree
I swear the team xi is always random
alexia won the best female player
but she wasn't even in the womens team xi
it's odd
haughty moss
Twitter
simple seal
old copypasta
rustic ore
https://twitter.com/hutchdiesel/status/1483193199791419395?s=21
Lance time baby
rustic ore
sickening
More so than rage itās just disappointment for me
Like yeah seeing any kind of that stuff pisses me off and makes me sick but for people to take a game that seriously is just depressing
wet onyx
exactly
like theyāre not even getting mad at the player
which is still ridiculous
but theyāre going after his family????? what????
cold igloo
imagine not getting used to losing after 25 seasons of this
haughty moss
Delusional fanbase
robust grotto
Wow Timo Meier going off
Timo Meier, first San Jose Shark in history to score 5 goals in a game
celest zephyr
Twitter
rustic ore
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1483214700246487041
Would love if he comes back to NFLN
Miss his presence on draft segments
celest zephyr
2020 first round aged poorly
celest zephyr
he's made some good picks though
crosby and renfrow are big contributors to the team
dim kettle
I'll forever be grateful that Gruden and Mike Mayock passed on Devin White for Ferrell in 2019.
robust grotto
Every GM will hit and miss, part of the job
Timo Meier has 5 goals tonight. The top scoring Montreal Canadien all season is Josh Anderson at 7 goals
dim kettle
He doesn't have a good track record with his first round picks. Jacobs aside. And that's a big problem. But at the same time, you can't tell me Mayock had as much power as Gruden did in drafting. He clearly had a lot of power too.
celest zephyr
wouldn't be a job if it was easy to predict who would be good / the better player after a few years
robust grotto
You know more than me
dim kettle
celest zephyr
Twitter
robust grotto
right as you spoke of it lol
rustic ore
Man passed up Aaron Rodgers for Cadillac Williams at #5
dim kettle
Also passed on Adrian Peterson for Gaines Adams.
dim kettle
That's right. He got killed right after being traded to the Bears like 2 years later. RIP
rustic ore
Nah he didnāt get killed, he had an undiscovered heart condition and died of a heart attack
rustic ore
Yeah McNair got killed by his GF
robust grotto
The Habs have 7 wins in 37 games played
dim kettle
Remember when a lot of us here thought the Habs had a chance to make the playoffs? Injury gods were like, āHa, thatās some funny shit.ā
celest zephyr
the habs have won less than 20% of their games so far
they lost 5-2 to the coyotes
also due to pretty much everyone on their roster that is expected to play well or at least decent underperforming
and bad contracts
robust grotto
Their team basically imploded
another franchise that just has a very tough time drafting
celest zephyr
there has to be a tank bowl? game? trophy
robust grotto
The Right to Wright
Lol
Shane Wright has 30 points in 24 games this year for Kingston. Connor Bedard is a year younger and has 31 in 26.
Few NHL teams are 100% going to tank next season
Fully expecting to see 2015, Buffalo Sabres level tank jobs next season lmao between Bedard and Michkov
celest zephyr
the coyotes will tank because they are the coyotes
robust grotto
I hate them dude
I lost so much respect for them. Only like the look at this point. Theyāre useless and have zero ambition to be good. Iād argue the only franchise in North America that is like that, maybe the Pittsburgh Pirates
simple seal
Shit is tight
dim kettle
Iām glad Nikola Vucevic can be on a real team
rustic ore
Historically which is the most successful of them?
Feel like itās gotta be between Buffalo and Minny
What with them both having been to 4 SBs and all
haughty moss
prob Vikings
cold igloo
falcons wouldāve had 1 except they choked š
honest umbra
OBJ TD
haughty moss
falcons wouldāve had 1 except they choked š
and we thank them for that
rustic ore
Yeahā¦itās gonna be Tampa vs the Rams again
robust grotto
Historically which is the most successful of them?
The Lions if you want to count their 4 titles before the merger
dim kettle
LOL
rustic ore
Lol, Kyler channeled his inner Jameis there
hollow wind
PICK SIX
dim kettle
About to say. PTSD there.
hollow wind
rustic ore
Man what is with this WC round and blowouts?
dim kettle
Kyler eating that W.
hollow wind
21-0 before the half
dim kettle
Yeahā¦itās gonna be Tampa vs the Rams again <:BobbinFeels:701983945293561887>
Better hope it ends like 2019.
hollow wind
Bruh Arizona have -1 total yards
hollow wind
Connerās in the game now
dim kettle
Doesn't help that Kyler struggles with adversity and his size plays a big factor in how his ball is thrown.
rustic ore
Wow
rustic ore
That shouldāve been a pick but it came out of the DBās hands and went back to the Cards player
dim kettle
Kyler can't dart the ball like other QBs. He has to float the ball when he throws or else someone like Donald would just bat it down.
rustic ore
Lol
hollow wind
So glad we picked up Von Miller
robust grotto
Lol
dim kettle
I wonder what Monster is thinking rn?
hollow wind
What is this game
rustic ore
Gonna finish the week 4-2
hollow wind
Idc. Ram time
rustic ore
Miscommunication there
dim kettle
Kyler really looking like Famous Jameis rn.
hollow wind
First playoff game going terribly
hollow wind
Fucking Whitworth
rustic ore
Cards D gets a stop
dim kettle
You know. The Rams have multiple score lead in the first half against a NFC West rival. Why does this sound familiar?
rustic ore
Rams DB hurt
dim kettle
Twitter
celest zephyr
Cardinals doing about as well on offense as the Steelers
Man the 2021 cardinals might be the 2020 Steelers of this year
rustic ore
At least the Steelers were able to get a TD at some point
Doesnāt look likely for the Rams rn
celest zephyr
Kliff is going to get fired
How does a coach repeatedly implode or do worse after the first 7 games
rustic ore
Should after this performance
Gotta bring in someone to build up that defense
And protect Kyler with a O-line
Have the Cards drafted a decent O-lineman of any position in the past 3 years?
rustic ore
wet onyx
knew picking the rams was a smart choice
same i went all in on the rams
wet onyx
they arenāt protecting kyler like, AT ALL itās sad to watch tbh
rustic ore
Which is a shame because heās really talented
Great trick play
Stafford to OBJ to Akers
What a catch by Kupp
TD Rams
celest zephyr
kyler living up to the ad
haughty moss
Man the Cards šµāš«
celest zephyr
cards really going to get blown out the most
dim kettle
Kupp must have coated his hands with stickum.
hollow wind
This is pretty embarrassing
celest zephyr
crazy that the first game was the best game
besides maybe 49ers - cowboys
pretty eh postseason so far
hollow wind
And yeah, I think Kingsbury is getting fired
haughty moss
Kingsbury looking funny in the light
haughty moss
This embarrassing
dim kettle
The only thing the Cards are winning today is having a better logo than the Rams.
rustic ore
Letās see, after this week every wildcard except the 49ers will have been knocked out
celest zephyr
49ers going to the superbowl
Jimmy G is going to get stickum for all of the recievers
haughty moss
Oh shit, Lakers are playing tonight too
celest zephyr
Oh shit, Lakers are playing tonight too
*not playing
can't be called playing if the team can't play basketball
dim kettle
49ers going to the superbowl
You mean, NINERS GAHNTA SUPER BOWL!!!!!!
celest zephyr
of course
rustic ore
ā¦Why are you running a draw on 3rd and 8?
dim kettle
Of course the Niners are going to the SB...
They'll be buying tickets to go.
celest zephyr
mccarthy went to arizona to call plays
hey if they can somehow eliminate the packers i'll take it
dim kettle
That throw was ugly.
hollow wind
Ooh fight
dim kettle
They're trying to establish a run game down by 28 in the 3rd quarter. Kiff really trying his hardest to get fired.
celest zephyr
sounds like he's been told he's going to be fired if he loses this game
rustic ore
Donald with a PF against him
dim kettle
So... two NFC teams got bye weeks in the WC.
celest zephyr
and two afc teams
rustic ore
So... two NFC teams got bye weeks in the WC.
3 if you count Tampa
celest zephyr
huh there were only 2 wild card games
dim kettle
I think he thought I was referring to GB
haughty moss
finally
rustic ore
I thought you were making a joke about these blowouts by referring to the winning sides as having a bye week
celest zephyr
so teams saw what he did in atlanta in his last season and think yeah i'm going to hire this guy
celest zephyr
rustic ore
Jesus
Budda is hurt
Thatās a concussion easy
Your arms donāt stiffen up like that unless you hard reset your brain
rustic ore
Yeah, caught him on the side of his helmet
celest zephyr
lakers game starting
wet onyx
damn prayers up to budda baker
rustic ore
Somebody please fire Kliff 
This dumbass really even trying to run the ball down 24
Moron
hollow wind
rustic ore
Lol, kicking a field goal
They made Smith so much bigger in that animation than he is irl
That little shit is like 5ā9
warm kestrel
NFC Divisional Playoffs:
- Green Bay Packers vs. 6. San Francisco 49ers
- Tampa Bay Buccaneers vs. 4. Los Angeles Rams
AFC Divisional Playoffs:
- Tennessee Titans vs. 4. Cincinnati Bengals
- Kansas City Chiefs vs. 3. Buffalo Bills
@rustic mountain Bengals, Bills, Packers, Buccaneers
rustic ore
@rustic mountain Packers, Rams, Titans, and Bills please
rustic mountain
Gotcha
Just so you know, I am in Canada til Friday, so I won't be able to update stuff just yet
hollow wind
Lakers bout to lose this game
rustic ore
Lakers bout to lose this game
Sorry to bother but you might need to pop into catching up
Untagged convos
hollow wind
gotcha
left shore
Kyler Murray ass lmfao
robust grotto
Wow very unconventional. Kent Hughes is a player agent. Reps players like Bergeron, Letang, Nurse
Wow lol this is different to say the least
celest zephyr
@rustic mountain Packers,Rams, Bengals, Chiefs
rustic ore
Wow very unconventional. Kent Hughes is a player agent. Reps players like Berger...
So kinda like the hockey equivalent of Kobeās manager becoming GM of the Lakers?
robust grotto
Or Brodie being the GM of the Mets
but like, a tick lower in terms of the players he reps. He really only has 1 star player and 2 above average
celest zephyr
Yikes not what Iād want to hear from kyler
Heās still struggling at some of the same things rookie qbs do
robust grotto
Heās also from Montreal so thatās interesting
And damn. Kingsbury and Kyler are becoming masters of imploding
rustic ore
Hopefully Brady turns the rams into paste
Iād love that but I have no hope/expectation of that happening
More so than a talent issue itās a scheme issue
McVay O>>>>>Bowles D any day
Plus their stud RT Tristan Wirfs might miss the game with a high ankle sprain
simple seal
@rustic mountain Bucs, Packers, Bengals, Bills
Of course I hope Titans can pull it off but Burrow be cooking
robust grotto
celest zephyr
kyler just doesn't feel like a leader
dim kettle
NHL finally grew a pair
robust grotto
About time
dim kettle
Famous Jameis would be so proud of that play.
celest zephyr
just realized that dak could have just thrown and not spiked the ball
but then he spiked it for no reason
rustic ore
Nuts to me how Tampa is the favorite against LA, did the bettors miss what happened when they met earlier in the year?
Cause the same thing is gonna happen Sunday
celest zephyr
nope
and the regular season doesn't always represent the playoffs
the buccaneers got blown out 38-3 by the saints in the regular season and then beat them in the playoffs
dim kettle
Why are the Bucs always facing the Rams in the playoffs? 1979, 1999, now 2021
It's either them or the Eagles.
celest zephyr
The Lakers beat the jazz huh
Happens when the defense is just funnel into rudy gobert
dim kettle
celest zephyr
beating the cowboys is worth getting smacked by the packers
and seeing jimmy g for another year
watching the 49ers
simple seal
Famous Jameis would be so proud of that play.
Wentz too
celest zephyr
wentz would get lucky and it somehow gets dropped
honest umbra
https://twitter.com/PFF_Bet/status/1483471987095842819
dang they got packers -6?
celest zephyr
he's still had a few throws that should have been picks but weren't
not surprised
49ers are definitely an underdog
also the jazz suck. congrats for winning laughing stock of the nba for the week award
celest zephyr
rustic ore
dang they got packers -6?
Theyāre going into Saturday really banged up
So Iām not too surprised
Jimmy G banged up his shoulder and both Warner and Bosa could be out
dim kettle
honest umbra
https://twitter.com/ScooterMagruder/status/1483527620784717824?s=20
same
and raiders too
dull sedge
@rustic ore when do games in the NFL usually happen? Is there like a live schedule or something?
rustic ore
<@233819459880615936> when do games in the NFL usually happen? Is there like a l...
Like during the regular season or right now during the playoffs?
dull sedge
Right now
rustic ore
1 sec
dull sedge
Just looking up games to see if I can follow them in a very basic sense
Hopefully they're not like very early in the morning or very late at night
rustic ore
So there are 2 games this Saturday and Sunday
dull sedge
Ok, just ping me when you guys are like talking about a game and I'll see if I can look at that and respond by following the game myself
celest zephyr
saturday night game might end late depending on timezone
rustic ore
Saturday games are 4:30 PM EST and 8:15 PM EST, Sunday games are 3:00 PM EST and 6:30 PM EST
dull sedge
If I talk with you guys then I can quickly gain more knowledge
rustic ore
So whatever those times would translate for you
celest zephyr
i barely know anything lol
dull sedge
I would get all the jargon at least
rustic ore
Iāll do my best to explain anything to you youāre curious about
dull sedge
Of course, all the player names and position tracking is going to be taking some time lmao but we'll get there if there's a chance I can get through to following games with you guys
dim kettle
Depending how much you watch of it, it could take a lot of time to understand everything about the sport.
dull sedge
Yeah, I am a bit busy at the moment so I know it's gonna take some time
Or maybe
I can do this
I'll start off after the Super Bowl whenever that is
When the regular season starts
rustic ore
Think thatās February 13th I want to say?
dim kettle
Correct
rustic ore
When the regular season starts
September
dull sedge
Ok, that's more time for me to understand the rules of the game better
Oh shit
Ok, February 13 it is
rustic ore
And the preseason starts in August
The preseason is just like exhibition games though
rustic ore
Suggest for what?
dull sedge
When I start following games
dull sedge
All right, see you guys on Super Bowl then
rustic ore
Hopefully we can keep your interest and make you a long term fan
dim kettle
Just don't make the mistake I made when I was 6 and pick the Bucs as your team. We won a SB last year but before 15+ years of pure misery lol
rustic ore
Iād be down, itās like a different version of baseball isnāt it?
dull sedge
Yep
So what it is is a bit more complicated because there are like different formats
Understanding those formats is the tricky part
dim kettle
I watched a couple of cricket games. The problem is, it's the same with Soccer. Just don't have the time to watch multiple sports. I already have a hard time watching basketball consistently
dull sedge
Yeah, the traditional format, which is called test cricket is a five day long affair for the most part
It's a bit boring unless the teams are playing extremely aggressive
It's long and winding
There shorter formats of the game are more entertaining
There are two major short cricket formats, one that last a day, like 5-6 hours, and another that last 3-4 hours
So getting the basics in
2 teams
One field which at the centre or near the centre is the main playing area also called the pitch
So this is how a cricket field looks like, ignore all the other elements and focus on the centre
That yellow area is where all the action happens
A pitch has on either side, three sticks with small connecting wooden stumps called bails on them
A batsman has to defend these otherwise he gets out
He can defend them from the guy throwing the ball, who's called the bowler in an offensive manner or a defensive manner
This is a batsman
rustic ore
Iāve seen that whoever goes up to hit seems to be padded to the Nth degree, does it really have that high a degree of danger to it? 
dull sedge
Those are cork balls buc
They at the highest speeds come at 90 miles an hour
And they hit hard
So yes
Ok, coming back to the game rules
While defending themselves from getting out, they need to get runs that they score by running between the wickets
There are always two batsmen on the pitch
So a run means they rotate
If while running between the wickets after hitting the ball, the ball wounds up in a fielders hand and hits the wicket, you're out
For that, there is a wicket keeper, who stays behind the wicket to get balls to get you out
Another way of getting out, hitting the ball and ending up in a fielders arm
Directly, so a catch
Either there or it touches the bat and goes behind, the wicket keeper gets it, you're out
Is it understandable to this point
Looks like I went into an essay
Lmao
rustic ore
Youāre good man, I appreciate it
dull sedge
There's a lot more man lmao
So yeah you get the idea right?
Lot of moving elements here
burnt cedar
A good example of a game to watch would be the World Cup final between England New Zealand
Has it all
dull sedge
I don't know if I go further that I'll be spamming or something lol
burnt cedar
Or just highlights of it
dull sedge
Yeah that's a perfect game tbh
burnt cedar
Feel like you can get a grasp of the game by watching
celest zephyr
Twitter
rustic ore
Twitter
Really think they should focus more towards an offensive guy instead to develop TLaw, but if he's an actual adult then I suppose that would be a massive improvement from Meyer
dim kettle
Bringing a HC that could change the culture of that franchise should be priority number one. Would help to get an offensive mind though.
honest umbra
TAA is pretty insane and its crazy becuz hes still so young
simple seal
He was ready
rustic ore
That happened?
Yeah as everyone was getting off of the field at the end of the game some butthurt fans started chucking like water bottles and what not at the refs as they were running alongside the players into the locker rooms
Initially Dak blasted the fans for doing that when he thought they were throwing things as the Cowboys players but kinda did a 180 when he heard they were actually aiming at the refs
Really bad look for a guy who is supposed to be the face of their franchise
rustic ore
It's just one of those cases where the player needed to take a PC approach and ask people to aim blame at him
He would've been praised by I think everyone for it even though we all know he wasn't the sole reason they lost
dim kettle
I feel like this is gonna be the end for the Dallas Cowboys. Blaming the refs over your stupidity and failure. That's something the Houston Rockets did just a few years ago.
honest umbra
that was a fun time
dim kettle
robust grotto
Yeah that Blues run was ridiculous
I know the winter classic wasnāt really a good game but I would love to see the Blues and Wild have a playoff series. I feel like that would be a real good one
As for the Habs, thereās really nothing to say. We knew they were toast once the series ended. Cole Caufield has been shockingly useless
honest umbra
Man, rewatched last nights game
yea idk what happened to him
Iāve seen him play a lot, heās never looked that rattled
dim kettle
The Rams clearly figured him out. When pressure comes his way, he has problems. And his size makes have to lob the ball which results in a lot of shaky balls.
honest umbra
Yea but why hold on to the ball more than 2 secs in the opposite end zone
Or bullet a pass to your RB 2 feet from you
dim kettle
He folds under pressure.
honest umbra
Those just seem like common things not to do
I mean heās pressured throughout the season and this was his first playoff game (if you meant literally)
I can understand jitters but he was LOST yesterday
I think kliff has to take a lot of blame here
His game plan was weird lol
dim kettle
I think the recipe for stopping Kyler is blitz him and have defenders be in his face. Because he's very limited in that area in terms of throwing the ball.
honest umbra
Literally saw one game in person this szn, rams vs cards. Cards looked effortlessly flawless, so much fluidity
dim kettle
Like, he has legs but that's not always gonna save him.
honest umbra
I think the recipe for stopping Kyler is blitz him and have defenders be in his ...
Yea him being short is actually really working against him
honest umbra
Like, he has legs but that's not always gonna save him.
Which he also didnāt utilize like B 2 rushes for 6 yds?
Why not have him read more often and run
Why not abuse kirks speed on rams fourth string safeties
I really donāt understand what kliff was doing lol
Weddle came out of retirement and got away with it in the game
dim kettle
I never really understood why being a little short mattered when being a QB till I saw Kyler. You need to thread the needle in small spots against big ass defenders. And Kyler can't do that. I noticed in the second match up against the Rams where he threw to AJ Green and if this was Brady or Mahome, they'd dart the ball to him, and with the momentum from that bullet pass would get him extra yards. But Kyler can't do that and instead floats it and AJ had to come back to get it and only gain a few yards.
And yeah, the HC at this point should be designing plays with Kyler's size in mind.
This was his 3rd year, and this is suddenly becoming a problem now?
dim kettle
I saw. You see something new everyday.
robust grotto
You really do lol
honest umbra
This was his 3rd year, and this is suddenly becoming a problem now?
Well more so it became prevalent as the team starts to get into more prime time situations and more āsuccessā
But kliff has a reputation for not ending any of his seasons well, I think he just needs to reset like half way through the season and have his OC or something come up with a new playbook
It seems he is not really someone who is able to adjust on the spot
Something I used to criticize McVay of in the past
But that might have been more about the limitations of Goff than anything else
dim kettle
In the off season he has to look at the last 2 Ram games and the Colts one and figure out how he can get Kyler out of situations like that.
honest umbra
Yea I think theyāll come back tough against us next year but man this year was a wash for them
rustic ore
I'm curious if he might be on the hot seat now
dim kettle
A lot of it has to go on Kyler too. He has a good long ball but his medium and short passes aren't good enough.
honest umbra
I think itās insane to put him on the hot seat
He is a good coach and the alternatives are so bad lol
rustic ore
I mean they flamed out last season when they were well on their way to the playoffs, and then they started 7-0 this year only to skid out and then ran into a buzz saw in the WC round
dim kettle
Considering he took a 3-13 team to at least playoff contenders. He's nowhere near the hotseat.
honest umbra
Yea thatās contextually bad but comparably way better than where they were before
dim kettle
Like, if Kiff goes, Steve Keim goes too.
honest umbra
Sure the talent is better than before but thereās also def been moments where the identity of this team has shined
rustic ore
I mean Keim has needed to be gone for a while
honest umbra
Is that their GM?
rustic ore
Yeah
dim kettle
Remember he gave 40 million to Sam Bradford?
honest umbra
Generally curious, Iām unaware lol
rustic ore
He just seems very mediocre to me
rustic ore
Off of the top of my head I can't think of 1 all star player he's drafted
honest umbra
Drafting is a different story I guess
dim kettle
Like, let's not pretend that he didn't had failures in the draft.
rustic ore
I don't know, it's just the guy has been there for what, 8 years now? 9? Are they any closer to being a contender?
dim kettle
Like you can argue D-Hop. But you're trading partner was BoB. Anyone could've robbed him.
honest umbra
Than before? Yes but def not close to a SB
Idk I guess you could replace him
But Iām only for it if there are better alternatives
rustic ore
I still don't know what BOB was thinking, or why no one else bid more than a 2 for DeAndre freaking Hopkins of all people
honest umbra
Like the last two years rosters arguably were well built
From his POV
They just didnāt really utilize it which is more of a coach problem
dim kettle
Anyhow, if you're big spenders at FA market. It means 9 times out of 10 that you've failed in the draft.
rustic ore
Do you think he's on the hot seat if they don't make the playoffs next year Fate?
honest umbra
definitely
Way too much talent to not be making the playoffs
Even in a tough division
rustic ore
Oh wait, I meant Kingsbury with that though I suppose you could throw Keim in to
Be shocked if they weren't tied together now
honest umbra
I think kingsbury personally is a good coach who just made some really odd decisions last few weeks
And I canāt really understand why
dim kettle
I can't really say much about the top of the Cards. Because they got fairly new ownership.
rustic ore
I think at the very least they need to think about getting a new DC
They've spent so much money and draft capital on their defense and that was the best they could muster in the WC round?
honest umbra
Like theyāre div rivals and I love winning comfortably but they looked crazy non competitive yesterday
Which is the worst part
rustic ore
Yeah
Tbh outside of the Raiders-Bengals game and maybe the 49ers-Cowboys game WC weekend was kind of a dud imo
honest umbra
Say what you want about the 9ers but they have always looked competitive in every game ever lol
rustic ore
Just so onesided
dim kettle
It was nice seeing the first home playoff win I've ever seen minus the SB.
rustic ore
Same
honest umbra
I was thinking about it and if rams won week 17, they could have almost home sided all the way to the SB
Because SB is in sofi
rustic ore
And against the Eagles of all teams so a little late revenge for when those times they knocked off those Dungy led Bucs back in the 90s and early 2000s
rustic ore
Call me crazy but I really think the Packers are going all the way this year
honest umbra
We gotta go to Tampa now and then GB if we win (if they also win)
dim kettle
The Rams always win against the Bucs in the playoffs.
dim kettle
Granted the last time was refball.
honest umbra
Iāve only watched football for 8 years but heās too good
I have rooted against him in every single SB except the pats vs hawks
rustic ore
Rams have won 7 of the last 8 match ups against Tampa
I'm sadly expecting the same on Sunday
rustic ore
Same
honest umbra
Got fān blown out by Winston
rustic ore
It was a shootout
honest umbra
And godwin
rustic ore
That was a fun game
dim kettle
I'm mixed. I'm just happy to see playoff football in Tampa consistently in my adult life
rustic ore
Then Mike with this gem on his long TD against Peters
That was fun
He even got a shout out from LeBron afterwards on Twitter
dim kettle
Still have this on my computer.
rustic ore
That honestly might have been Winston's best game as a pro, that in spite of the fact he threw a pick 6
dim kettle
I still remember it. "We beat the defending NFC Champions in a convincing fashion. We look for real." Then the Saints beat the crap out of us; because the Saints just love taking all the optimism I have and shitting on it.
Of course that Ram game came after. That game.
rustic ore
That one is gonna sting for a while
I mean we won a title without him so that is a W in the long run, but it still sucks that a guy we gave up on too early because a stud elsewhere
Ah well
dim kettle
I mean we won a title without him so that is a W in the long run, but it still s...
Of course he'd be a stud after leaving the Bucs. Always happens.
honest umbra
Really hope I didnāt jinx him since we are playing Bucs this weekend lol
rustic ore
Of course he'd be a stud after leaving the Bucs. Always happens.
Same thing happened with Matt Bryant
dim kettle
And Nick Folk.
honest umbra
The period between Greg and gay was so hectic
A good kicker makes such a difference
rustic ore
For real
honest umbra
Chargers would know it all too well
honest umbra
We have had hekker who imo is one of the best punters in the last decade and then mostly greg
So rams didnāt have too much to worry about
rustic ore
I'm hopeful though that Jose turns into our long term answer at kicker after we inevitably cut Succop for cap reasons
honest umbra
But gay has been a revelation
dim kettle
Gay would most likely still be our kicker rn if there was pre season in 2020.
dim kettle
It's just funny how a pandemic changes a lot.
honest umbra
Now that we have had this Convo, I fully expect some BS To go down this weekend
And we will recall this convo
I hope wirfs plays though
dim kettle
Don't worry, Stafford will just throw 3 picks to Devin White and company. So you don't have to worry about kicks. 
honest umbra
Let Brady have his protection, I wanna see if rams defense can get through
rustic ore
High ankle sprains are a bitch though, so I'm doubtful of his chances
honest umbra
Yea no way he should have been sent back in
rustic ore
Also hope Whitworth is good to go for y'all though Fate
honest umbra
All players (well not all AB) would wanna go back out there
Dude is 40 and playing such a difficult position and killing it
If we do win a SB, I hope heās there on the field in a Jersey
rustic ore
Agreed, even though he was fighting to go back in the coaches should've seen his wasn't healthy and shut him down immediately
honest umbra
ESP against the eagles they suck lol
dim kettle
I still believe the Rams beat us last time because the Rams offense was able to score more. So if the Bucs defense can actually stop them this time, it will be very, very close game.
honest umbra
Yea I think this game will be more rams offense vs Bucs defense
rustic ore
I think both teams are stronger now than they were before
honest umbra
I expect Brady to get at least 21 somehow
I saw a list of whatās different since week 3. We have miller, Obj and akers
rustic ore
Bucs D is pretty much as close to 100% as they have been all season and the Rams now have guys like Miller and OBJ playing like their old selves
Yeah plus Akers
Dude is a madlad
dim kettle
OBJ is there now. Like we had problems with DeSean Jackson last time and he's not even on the Rams anymore.
rustic ore
You couldn't convince me that he tore his Achilles like 4-5 months ago
I wouldn't believe it
honest umbra
Athletes really are freaks
celest zephyr
i don't know what magic akers used to return
dim kettle
Akers using the TB12 program secrectly.
rustic ore
A shame he missed all year
He easily could've been in the running for the rushing crown
I fully believe that
Loved him at FSU, wanted him badly in the draft back in 2020
celest zephyr
All players (well not all AB) would wanna go back out there
ab is proof that high end talent doesn't equal high iq
dim kettle
I mean, Ke'Shawn Vaughn is finally showing flashes at RB.
celest zephyr
a shame tennessee ran derrick henry into the ground
dim kettle
And somehow still got the 1st seed in the AFC.
rustic ore
Gosh can you imagine if he's actually back to 100% this weekend
Titans legit might run the table
dim kettle
They're facing Burrow and Chase though. Gonna be a tough one.
honest umbra
And theyāre already 1 seed
rustic ore
And somehow still got the 1st seed in the AFC.
And only with 11 wins which is just...damn
honest umbra
Whoever wins chiefs vs bills wins out AFC but I think bengals win
I respect titans honestly, I donāt think theyāre a false 1 seed
I just have a lot of faith in burrow lol
dim kettle
I'm glad he's not in the NFC.
honest umbra
And chase is really really really good
Man some of his catches and runs against the raiders
dim kettle
I know, I love being right.
celest zephyr
who doesn't
rustic ore
He's damn near as complete of a WR as I've ever seen
honest umbra
LSU produces a class once in a while that destroys it in the NFL
rustic ore
Fr
They had OBJ and Landry, then followed that up a couple years later with Jefferson and Chase
Just nuts
honest umbra
Yea sucks they didnāt win with OBJ and Landry
dim kettle
Sometimes I feel bad for that program. Because they have to always be reminded that JaMarcus Russell once played there.
honest umbra
But personally think this Jefferson and chase class will be seen as even better
rustic ore
Oh no doubt
rustic ore
Do you think one is definitively better than the other or are they about equal?
Cause it's a really tough call for me
honest umbra
As WRs?
rustic ore
Yeah
honest umbra
Iād take JJ tomorrow
But think chase is really really close
JJ deserves a better QB lol
celest zephyr
kirk cousins isn't a bad qb
dim kettle
They had OBJ and Landry, then followed that up a couple years later with Jeffers...
OBJ and Landry. Ha. Everytime I think of them I think how they really wasted them there. What was their QB. Zach Mettenberger?
honest umbra
Yup heās pretty much the definition of average
But burrow to chase works because burrow is exceptional
rustic ore
OBJ and Landry. Ha. Everytime I think of them I think how they really wasted the...
Yeah
dim kettle
Kirk Cousins is a good QB. And he's a shit QB when it actually matters.
rustic ore
But burrow to chase works because burrow is exceptional
Plus with all of the other weapons on that O it's legit pick your poison
Tee Higgins is a monster
honest umbra
Just producing offense
rustic ore
FFS
honest umbra
Not to mention mixon
honest umbra
Them picking up solid pieces on defense is why theyāre in playoffs though
Still need a o line though
rustic ore
Think Burrow was sacked like close to or over 50 times this season
honest umbra
That is crazy man
dim kettle
Andrew Luck like. "First time?"
rustic ore
Ridiculous that his numbers are as good as they are with him under siege like that
honest umbra
How can you let your franchise get sacked so much
It sucks because luck was also generational
But dude just couldnāt take it anymore and I canāt blame him
rustic ore
I'm happy for him though that he seems legit happy out of football
dim kettle
Colts were my 2019 dark horse pick before he retired.
honest umbra
And most likely wonāt have CTE now
rustic ore
You never know sadly
honest umbra
Yea he still played a lot of football
rustic ore
Still so much about the brain that we don't know
honest umbra
But he wonāt be paralyzed early in his life
rustic ore
True
honest umbra
He was suffering way more than just brain damage with the hits he took
dim kettle
At least he'll have a functional shoulder
honest umbra
They had peyton then luck and now they have.. wentz
celest zephyr
They had peyton then luck and now they have.. wentz
they had rivers before wentz also
dim kettle
The Colls waste generational talent like they're candy.
honest umbra
they had rivers before wentz also
I totally forgot he had his retirement tour there
rustic ore
It's not fair that the Steelers can just keep finding solid WRs outside of R1 man
honest umbra
Heās forever a charger in my mind
rustic ore
At least that might change now that their GM Colbert is retiring
Might being the operative word
dim kettle
They're changing. But are they changing for the best or worse?
honest umbra
Yea but Steelers got a good coach, good defense, good offense if they stop dancing and dropping catches
Getting routed by the chiefs isnāt something Iām gonna rlly hold against them
Their QB himself had given up before the game began lol
rustic ore
I don't understand why the vets don't just put their feet down and smack those younger players upside the head already
Like Claypool
That dude has all the talent in the world to be great, but he's such a whiny show off
honest umbra
That dude has so much god gift athleticism
Heās like 6 foot crazy something
And fast
dim kettle
The Steelers have a terrible culture there. And thank god Big Ben is out because he was one part of that toxic culture. But Mike Tomlin is still there and he's still a great HC. But he treats player discipline like it's a county club.
rustic ore
Tomlin keeps a mostly tight ship, he's damn sure a rock solid coach
But he really needs to come down hard on the young talent and get them to act to professionals
honest umbra
Yea
I think Russ would be a perfect addition there though
Though he def seems more like a Qb to enable player antics
rustic ore
Russ and Harris would be a cool duo out of the back field
dim kettle
It's not even applies to young talent. It's also older ones. People like Joey Porter and Jeff Reed can do dumb shit and be back on the sideline the next day like it never happened.
honest umbra
Man harris is so good
rustic ore
Even at like age 33 or 34 he's still a great athlete
rustic ore
Yeah he flashed a lot this year
If only the Steelers had a good O-line
Could have put up better numbers
dim kettle
No matter if Russ comes there or not. It's gonna be much of the same like 2014-18 period. Get so close to the SB only to lose everytime. Only except of Tom Brady kicking their ass it's someone like Mahomes.
honest umbra
Iād still want that you know
Those teams are usually just a hot run from a SB
someone like the eagles
Give them a way better chance than Big Ben lol
celest zephyr
Those teams are usually just a hot run from a SB
or the 49ers
honestly idk how i'd feel about lance playing vs gb given jimmy g's injuries
honest umbra
or the 49ers
was legit gonna use them as my second example lol
or the 2012 ravens lol but that was just flacco going absolutely insane for some reason
honest umbra
honestly idk how i'd feel about lance playing vs gb given jimmy g's injuries
yāall would lose bad lol
jimmy g is jimmy g but he controls the game well
honest umbra
idk if u get this far, go for it
celest zephyr
its more of can jimmy play
honest umbra
well he doesnāt need to do much, itāll be mostly running lol
thatās how yāall have destroyed us and packers last few years
on the ground, tough running
celest zephyr
he still has to make decisions and throw the ball
honest umbra
he just needs to be able to make the odd pass
celest zephyr
and if he can't then the 49ers are kinda screwed
honest umbra
which I trust him to do more rn than lance
rustic ore
How much do you think SF will get for moving him in the offseason?
I'd say at least a 2
honest umbra
Depends on how far they go this off szn and he keeps playing
But with how many teams need QBs, someone WILL overpay
celest zephyr
the real question is who's the backup
a team like pittsburgh, washington, maybe the giants will take him
the timberwolves have a better record than the knicks
rustic ore
Haven't been watching NBA so far this year, have the Knicks dropped off that hard since last season?
celest zephyr
they are 22-23
rustic ore
That doesn't seem that bad
Seems like they're on pace for like an 8th or maybe even 7th seed
rustic ore
Jeez, what is going on with the Lakers?
I mean I've heard some of y'all talk about them dropping the ball at times the last couple weeks but that just seems really underwhelming given the talent on paper on that team
celest zephyr
on paper is the key part
this team is more of a shitshow than i thought
idk who's even in charge of the lakers at this point
hollow wind
Vogel is gone
Will be soon
Dunno how I feel other than I wouldn't say this is entirely his fault at all
This team just isn't good and doesn't fit
hollow wind
idk who's even in charge of the lakers at this point
Lebron always
sweet smelt
hollow wind
Think McCarthy is on the hot seat?
short spindle
All this Vlahovic and Isak talk and we are going to end up with Calvert Lewin ffs
He's Everton's Andy Carroll
silk notch
Vogel is gone
Na I feel like he will last the team actually turned up vs the jazz plus Ad is coming back soon
hollow wind
He's on a game to game basis. It really all depends if they keep winning
And I don't think that's likely
simple seal
robust grotto
Hi @celest zephyr we meet again for the final time tonight
celest zephyr
hey lance try to be aaron
rangers probably going to win
i just want the leafs to play more regularly
feels like an event every time they play/ play a b2b
robust grotto
rangers probably going to win
Ehhhh I genuinely believe we match up so well with one another. Legit 50/50 going into each game
celest zephyr
just bully muzzin and holl to victory
robust grotto
LMAO I follow a big Leafs fan and he swears Holl is a liability too
sweet tree
that lakers team just wasn't constructed well
celest zephyr
it still isn't
celest zephyr
