since unless he has some crazy injury he'll be good for way longer than zion
#sports
celest zephyr
hollow wind
Mhm
celest zephyr
rj second?
celest zephyr
could be yeah
honest umbra
zion is dropping off hard
on a team that doesnt know what its doing at all
morant is #1 in my opinion
hollow wind
Teams trash
celest zephyr
Zion had all the media attention when he first got drafted
zion's conditioning is equally trash
then he started playing better and lamelo just got all the attention
honest umbra
when they traded AD
and got 1 pick
got zion
they had suchhhhhh a bright future
with ball, ingram, etc etc
wtf happened lmao?
hollow wind
If you compare it to lebron entering the league the hype for Zion just went down fast
honest umbra
literally took 10 steps backwards
celest zephyr
nah the pelicans felt like they were going to blow it
celest zephyr
zion's been good the issue is staying on the damn court
hollow wind
Zion looked like he was for a bit
celest zephyr
Zion only played like 30 games in his first year
hollow wind
Availability is so important man
celest zephyr
when he plays and he's in shape he's damn good
he became an all star the next year but that’s all really
that's just barely the case with him though
honest umbra
the thing is
he already wnats to leave NOLA
whats his incentive
to stay in shape
and play well?
some ppl just dont have that motor or drive
celest zephyr
man feels like i'm just watching something like greg oden happen real time
honest umbra
lebron was rare
hollow wind
Yeah he really does just need to be on the court. But his conditioning and body is just not sustainable
honest umbra
nah zions already done more than oden
plus kd was drafted after oden so oden had it even worse
celest zephyr
i know but like really talented guy who just falls apart years after
hollow wind
Oden was a bust from like year 1
celest zephyr
due to injuries
honest umbra
he had like a stretch of like 40-50 games last year? with 50%fg staright shooting
celest zephyr
like zion will prob hard fall off by year 5
some teams just drag stars down with them
honest umbra
zion just needs to leave the pels
i mean hes already requested to leave
in his year 2 lmao
no doubt he will leave
celest zephyr
Yup lol
zion doesn't really deserve it tbh
BI too, he so nice
second year and he's already in such ass condition
feel bad for BI more
he's really good and he's just gotten better
honest umbra
BI's always been good
celest zephyr
another case of the teams dragging down a player
honest umbra
hes not that young anymore
hollow wind
Well I don’t feel too bad for BI given he completely changed his career around after leaving the lakers
honest umbra
like ingrams peak at once was maybeeee KD
and i mean like veryyy barely
given their body stature
but his shot aint there
like not as much
celest zephyr
his playstyle seems like he’d average a cool 25
he's 24
even in his “peak”
he ain't that old
hollow wind
Shots not as fluid as KD but that’s KD
celest zephyr
his shot is nice though
honest umbra
and this is coming from an ingram fan since day 1
he was my fav laker over ball, kuzma, etc lol
celest zephyr
Feel like Ingram is more like Middleton than KD lmao
honest umbra
which is still good
hollow wind
I’m glad he got out of La
honest umbra
middleton has never been the 1 option on his team though
and has always had good talent
ingram is usually 1st shooting option
esp when zion is out, hes 1st option overall
celest zephyr
idk if he is with zion on the court
honest umbra
im sure if bucks offense on court was centered around middleton a little
he could prob average 25
celest zephyr
Zions playstyle is more in the paint so he doesn’t take up possessions like BI does
idk middleton benefits a bunch from good talent
hard to say
Middleton got a crazy good mid range
hollow wind
Middleton clearly has it in him to average 25 but yeah bucks don’t center around him
celest zephyr
he could yeah but idk if the offense could be good and he averages 25
yeah when you got the greek freak all you gotta do is feed the big man lol
since his efficency gets boosted a ton by playing with giannis
Yeah he’d average 25 on like a 9 or 10 seed
i guess BI is the same rn
tbh lol
like the pelicans are 9/10 seed at best
honest umbra
thats being nice
celest zephyr
honestly and this might be wild they might be better off if they trade zion and get another star who can stay on the cout
Zion to miami would be fire
but miami wouldn’t give up ANYBODY
hollow wind
Simmons 
hollow wind
Don’t think Boston letting them go
celest zephyr
celtics might blow it up actually at this rate
eh are they going to win with them?
remains to be seen
they suck this year
and what's the ceiling with tatum and brown and having to develop them together?
Celtics seem to always almost reach the finals or eastern conference finals these days
they ain't now
too many good teams in the east
celest zephyr
and what's the ceiling with tatum and brown and having to develop them together?
I think they’re close to hitting it
like this might be the peak or a lil more
yeah and that isn't a contender in this east anymore
Yeah
i'd blow it up if i'm boston
and trade tatum
smoky fable
why
celest zephyr
and he's a pretty good player
smoky fable
why would boston do this
honest umbra
please tell me you are joking
celest zephyr
and if tatum wants to be like kobe he can play elsewhere
Tatum is like a newborn baby to the celtics
honest umbra
tatum is playing insane
tatum is the star, brown is really good
but u dont build solely around him
celest zephyr
a Tatum or Brown trade would just put them in a downward spiral
honest umbra
trading an actual superstar would be the worst thing ever for boston
celest zephyr
idek with the nets anymore
the issue is are they going to be in one regardless?
tatum and brown are putting up 26 each on at least okay splits and they are 2-4
i mean ofc not lol
you'd be getting a star back
Even if they’re doing garbage now the celtics don’t want to bet something like that
too risky for them
it is but they are just wasting talent as is
and tatum and brown just have too similar of a skillset
True
its hard to win with two wings as your two best players
it’s just wasting talent is better than losing it all together in their eyes
they'll never win it all then
if its cool with them then sure
but otherwise its going to be like the blazers at this rate
I think what they need is a better bench, cause not having rozier was a huge loss
also a better center and pg
it'd be nice if one of their stars you know was that lol
Yeah lol
yeah that's the issue having two wings means its just two of a good thing
silk notch
i actually kinda agree boston just kinda seems stuck?
like not sure what they can really do
silk notch
nothing really
and having two wings can kinda work like pg and kawhi but tatum and brown arent on that level
but they dont have much to improve from their position
celest zephyr
pg and kawhi are just too damn good
and plus both of them benefited development wise and leadership wise a ton by being on separate teams first
and having their own individual success
silk notch
yea and they still got solid pieces around them
celest zephyr
the clippers are like the ideal version of the celtics
and even they have question marks about if they can win a ring or not
silk notch
plus can tatum and brown even develop to the level of someone like kawhi?
silk notch
yea might be like the blazers with cj and dame when yea they both good but never will be good enough
celest zephyr
yeah that was an example i brought up earlier
silk notch
oh great minds think alike then lmao
silk notch
lol gn
north bison
zion has been on a gumbo diet for the past 2 years
celest zephyr
That New Orleans food something dangerous lol
honest umbra
new orleans food is good for u
native sonnet
Zion would have had weight issues anywhere
native sonnet
He would. Dude had weight issues before he joined the Pelicans
celest zephyr
Yeah but he wasn’t on an NBA team
where staff and nutritionists are a lot better than colleges
I don’t like how the pelicans handle their players so it’s a shame someone like zion is there lol
robust grotto
wet onyx
is andrew thomas good? we’re gonna need every player we can get if we’re gonna beat the chiefs tonight
wet onyx
He’s our best o lineman
ik i was wondering if he was gonna play
haughty moss
Twitter
wet onyx
welp, there goes my season, derrick henry is out
celest zephyr
I don’t like how the pelicans handle their players so it’s a shame someone like ...
from what i''ve heard it's on his end actually
the pelicans aren't the best org sure but they still have their own staff and nuritionists
tacit grove
Holy shit nuno got sacked
tacit grove
nuno sacked
Took long enough
dim kettle
sweet tree
dim ledge
haughty moss
that houston goes too
dim kettle
Felt like I've seen that Orange Magic uni the last few years.
celest zephyr
yeah the magic haven't changed it much
Twitter
lol
think i've seen utah and phoenix have the same/similar jerseys before also
haughty moss
utah jersey is basically their city one
celest zephyr
yeah that's just lame
vikings offense is so trash for the talent on it
they scored 16 points on the cowboys with thielen cook and jefferson
cowboys didn't look good and the vikings still lost
if dak's out for a while they might lose to a team they should beat
dim kettle
In Which All Optimism Dies... Hog Edition
final plaza
Run out on second ball ! 
simple seal
The hero of my past trying to sub the hero of my present, dont think it will work lol
celest zephyr
maybe the titans won't run henry into the game again
what
von miller and aaron donald on the same team would be insane
Twitter
embiid out vs blazers for rest
celest zephyr
Twitter
robust grotto
Oh wow
celest zephyr
why is the nfc west just pain and misery
dim kettle
Niner fans rn:
celest zephyr
Niner fans rn:
why did i choose the niners out of any other team
dim kettle
At least you have the Leaf- Okay, I'll stop. 
celest zephyr
the leafs have a worse record than the raptors right now
wet onyx
the rams are always improving huh
dim kettle
Twitter
rustic mountain
Von Miller was the face of that team for a while
It aint losing Brady but damn does it sting
dim kettle
Reminds me when Ronde Barber retired. Basically was the face of the Bucs for so many years.
rustic mountain
New identities form but it takes some time
celest zephyr
losing lowry stung hard
rustic mountain
I am still getting used to Mac and not having Tom
wet onyx
i feel horrible for broncos fans, that took the wind out of their sail in one fell swoop
dim kettle
The Broncos sold their souls for that SB.
celest zephyr
they've been playing their asses off to be 4-4 and then this happens
rustic mountain
And nearly didn't get there
rustic mountain
Brady almost lead the pats to a comeback in that 2015 title game
celest zephyr
and not having even won the ring
dim kettle
And I'll always be the first to say I was right about Elway being overrated as an exec and was being carried by Peyton Manning and Josh McDaniels' picks.
celest zephyr
yeah but i meant that carolina has also had a downward spiral since then
dim kettle
Yeah, they forget Demaryius Thomas was drafted by McDaniels.
wet onyx
short spindle
Nuno took one for the team so Ole can walk
Spurs getting Conte is beyond my understandings
smoky fable
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1455223353665626119
Damn, that hurts big time
dim ledge
Spurs getting Conte is beyond my understandings
Spurs throwing the game so they can take conte before united can
Taking one for the team
dim kettle
sweet tree
aguero is out for 3 months
celest zephyr
Twitter
sweet tree
honest umbra
aguero is out for 3 months
noooooo
honest umbra
https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1455244687493763074?s=21
he’s gunna eat
sweet tree
it seemed he had an irregular heart beat, but yeah don't see him returning for a while honestly
honest umbra
Honestly prob gone for the season
Excited to see von miller on the team
he isn’t in his prime anymore but he is gonna benefit from being on that defense
celest zephyr
von miller's going to be good with a more limited role
burnt cedar
Most likely the best talent Arsenal have https://twitter.com/arsenalacademy/status/1455164336746471425?s=21
Only problem is he’s 5’4
hazy jacinth
celest zephyr
Twitter
bitter rover
@celest zephyr @burnt cedar crazy, the hype is real.
First four opponents:
Khamzat: John Philips, Rhys Mckee, Gerald Meerschaert, Li Jingliang
Khabib: Kamal Shalorus, Gleison Tibau, Thiago Tavares, Abel Trujillo
Conor: Marcus Brimage, Max Holloway, Diego Brandão, Dustin Poirier
Izzy: Rob Wilkinson, Marvin Vettori, Brad Tavares, Derek Brunson
caliber of opponents isnt even close though
but then again, khamzat had less fights in his records entering ufc i think
celest zephyr
I have to give him credit
His one of the UFC hype trains that haven’t derailed
They are talking about him fighting Burns next which would be perfect and the ultimate test
B4 title
robust grotto
dim kettle
celest zephyr
doesn't hit as hard as tankbowl
the real question is does either team get a win before that game
because it'd be amazing if their first win was against the team that was as bad as them
bitter rover
They are talking about him fighting Burns next which would be perfect and the ul...
it would be so damn exciting, but i think khamzat would keep it standing
luque is even a better match up
sweet tree
conte is class, seems spurs are willing to spend in the next transfer window due to his request
honest umbra
mahomes?
smoky fable
chief's turnover luck catching up to them, for the past 8 weeks.
dim kettle
Twitter
smoky fable
Sorensen has been awful
celest zephyr
He shouldn’t be on the team
7-7
Should have been an int
Bad attempt at a one handed catch
Mahomes struggling
Mahomes giving out ints and almost ints like candy
Giants d sucks
14-7
14-10
bulls really came back from like 20 down against the celtics
love to see it
Celtics chokers
dim kettle
Poor Boston. ||Said no one outside of the New England area||
celest zephyr
It was 17-2 in the 4th at one point
For the Knicks
Still 29-9
Chiefs d sucks
dim kettle
In other news, water is wet.
haughty moss
lmao love how that guy used every time now
dim kettle
I'm telling you, the Raps only sucked last year because they played their home games in central Florida. It's against the laws of this world for a pro basketball team to be good in central Florida.
smoky fable
We got Von Miller
I hate this division
hollow wind
Lmao
celest zephyr
dim kettle
Rams doing that short term success thing. You better hope it ends with a ring before cap hell and no draft picks pile up.
dim kettle
Unless you're the Kings.
simple seal
Raptors looking good
celest zephyr
they punted at 4&1
what the fuck
are they thinking
yeah playing in florida and then guys weren't in the lineup
due to iirc like injuries and covid
just a shitshow
oh barnes had a thumb injury. doesn't sound too bad but not great when the raptors don't have siakam also
wet onyx
they need to actually give it to toney instead of making stupid qb run plays
just fire jason garrett
celest zephyr
Yeah they have to fire him
dim kettle
the real question is does either team get a win before that game
Clearly the Blackhawks rn.
wet onyx
mahomes is such a fraud, he’s so bad
dim kettle
Franz Wagner is going nuts rn.
celest zephyr
Chiefs look like shit
dim kettle
The Magic win a basketball game.
smoky fable
Franz Wagner
dim kettle
Seriously, Arrowhead is ready to have a riot if the Chiefs don't win.
Like, any Buc fan who thinks the Bucs D was bad rn clearly hasn't watched a Chiefs game this year.
celest zephyr
He’s going to get an earful in the locker room
smoky fable
This chiefs team just has too many holes
celest zephyr
Not a contender
haughty moss
def ez pick 6 and fell lol sneed
celest zephyr
Or playoff team
hollow wind
celest zephyr
lol
dim kettle
Yeah, for people saying Mahomes is doing bad this year. Just remember they won 3 games this year because of Mahomes or else this team would be lucky to have 1 win so far.
smoky fable
Chiefs
celest zephyr
Giants
smoky fable
Oh they scored
Never mind
17-14
Of course it’s to Engram
And Sorensen is just bad
dim kettle
People are treating Mahomes like Buc fans did to Jameis. Which makes me wonder an alternate universe were Jameis goes to 2 SBs winning one.
celest zephyr
Peyton’s house is nice
dim kettle
celest zephyr
NFC west
smoky fable
Good luck Tennessee
dim kettle
It's funny to think the Bucs have a harder time with the Saints front line than the Rams. I mean, Donald only has like one sack on Brady in 2 games.
dim kettle
Thanks, ESPN, for showing how NFL defenses are exposing the Chiefs offense.
celest zephyr
Dumb penalty
dim kettle
The Chiefs really need that number 2 tall Mike Evans like receiver. Their two best receivers are both speed types.
celest zephyr
They need a guy like Watkins also
Haven’t been able to do short throws consistently
dim kettle
Playcalling is garbage. Run down the middle, just because.
LOLGIANTS
Another drop.
ffs
This Chiefs team. It feels like Dirk Koetter is coaching them.
celest zephyr
If it was an actually good team they’d be easily winning
dim kettle
Remember, coaches focused more on enforcing taunting calls than helmet to helmet hits.
smoky fable
A flag. But Jones gotta make that throw.
didn't the receiver get held?
dim kettle
He did, but he wasn't gonna make that catch.
dim kettle
I'm just waiting for that pick 6 now
celest zephyr
Come on mahomes throw an int
celest zephyr
20-17
smoky fable
This better not go to OT
dim kettle
That RZ playcalling makes my head hurt.
celest zephyr
Lol giants offense sucks
dim kettle
I wouldn't feel proud about this win if I'm a Chiefs fan.
celest zephyr
Should have lost
dim kettle
Looking at the Chiefs upcoming schedule:
dim kettle
Was a BS call but the Giants offense prolapsed on the field when it mattered most. That's the bottom line.
celest zephyr
i'm just glad i don't have to watch that game for longer
wet onyx
the actual bottom line is this is completely playcalling
jason garrett cannot stay any longer
dim kettle
Everyone needs to go. GM, HC, OC, QB, etc
wet onyx
worst oc in the entire league
celest zephyr
daniel jones wasn't awful
didn't make the best decisions
but the playcalling was just awful
celest zephyr
it would be so damn exciting, but i think khamzat would keep it standing
Most likely, Burns isn’t any joke, can’t forget his knockdowns on usman
wet onyx
don’t worry guys!! definitely a facemask!!
celest zephyr
watching the leafs
the seahawks making the jamal adams trade is just great
they are mediocre don't even have their first this year and are basically russell wilson and a few offensive weapons
dim kettle
dim ledge
Draisatl got very angry at the kraken
burnt cedar
Twitter
robust grotto
WOW
This fucking league is ruthless. Arsenal and Wolves are flying up the table. Brighton and West Ham have been solid. Spurs just got Conte and could change turn season around… and now Newcastle potentially getting a competent manager ? Whew
I understand that Newcastle aren’t even in the same conversation as the others but still, should only get better with Emery
wet onyx
any deshaun news? will he make it to another team by the deadline?
robust grotto
you think OBJ gets traded ?
and nah, nothing yet… who knows. I don’t understand trading for him, personally
wet onyx
and nah, nothing yet… who knows. I don’t understand trading for him, personally
should he win the case and be innocent, he’s easily a top 5 qb
wet onyx
you think OBJ gets traded ?
he’s most definitely gonna be, if not before the deadline it’s 100% after this season
robust grotto
Should make for an interesting day
No matter what NYG should really just pull the bandaid with Engram
wet onyx
if we get it over with now it’ll be so much easier than keeping him and suffering the consequences
robust grotto
We’ve suffered enough already 😦
robust grotto
wild dove
Oh boy. Can’t wait for dinamo to kick the shit outta barca.
wet onyx
is it possible for michael thomas to return this week
smoky fable
promising
celest zephyr
hope he develops with kinlaw out then
celest zephyr
noooo
wet onyx
https://twitter.com/tmz/status/1455583700608077832?s=21
praying everything is alright
robust grotto
Other people died in the crash
the accident happened at 3:30 AM, that’s not good news at all…. He might’ve been drunk
wet onyx
Other people died in the crash
rustic ore
Yeah his career is over
robust grotto
That’s it for him: fucking awful
wet onyx
that’s really tragic, he was just starting to develop
you should know better than to do that man
you hate to see stuff like that
terrible situation all around
celest zephyr
yeah that's it
robust grotto
All Henry had to do was make 1 phone call and someone would’ve picked him up
I’m sure the Raiders know players want to fool around, it’s Vegas after all. They would’ve set up a ride in a second. This is just really sad
celest zephyr
he could have called an uber or something like that or taken a taxi/shuttle
or even called one of the guys on his team/his friends
dim kettle
Twitter
wet onyx
https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1455600047572328449?s=20
since he’s a athlete he’ll get out with a slap on his wrist and a small fine
robust grotto
Watson will not be traded btw
Every team in sports has a car service for players; it’s legit inexcusable
native sonnet
The dudes rich and had multiple options that didn't involve drink driving. At worst he could have just gotten a hotel.
smoky fable
The NFLPA literally has a service for this
smoky fable
Trade or is he staying?
rustic ore
No clue
I mean he’s in the last year of his rookie deal so I could see a trade for like a Day 3 pick maybe
dim kettle
As long as it’s a good price
rustic ore
Gotta get Vaughn on the field though
dim kettle
Kinda stopped trusting him after his consistent ineptitude at blocking
rustic ore
And since Lenny is somewhat consistent he’s obviously no going anywhere rn
dim kettle
Whoever takes ROJO. Have fun with his fumbling and terrible blocking
rustic ore
At least he’s a nice power back with break away speed
smoky fable
Think nothing is happening at this trade deadline.
rustic ore
@rustic mountain can I please get the Colts for Thursday?
smoky fable
You know what, I'll pick all the wrong teams this week.
Give me the Jets @rustic mountain
rustic ore
Ramp up talk that they should leave White as their starter even if Wilson is healthy
rustic mountain
I am taking the Jets tbh
I want the Jets because it would be funny af if Mike White ended up kicking Elder Wilson to the curb
rustic ore
Did you know that the Jets apparently have a top 10 pass D?
rustic mountain
stares at Mac's 50 burger on them
smoky fable
they do?
rustic mountain
You don't say
smoky fable
With their secondary?
smoky fable
....
smoky fable
what the hell
rustic mountain
LMAOOOOOO
smoky fable
my brain is dead
rustic mountain
The next pats pro bowl qb
But I will say beating LA. That was fucking sick
And we nearly beat Dallas and nearly Tampa tbh
Loving what we are doing
dim kettle
Bill is Bill for a reason. Makes his mediocre roster (he built BTW) and coaches them to be better.
rustic mountain
Yeah his roster building is hella flawed
It's why we had to spend hard in free agency
But all but Jonnu have really been doing well
Judon has been great, Henry been great, Phillips basically beat LA
So
I hope that Bill listens finally to his scouts and forever remembers going against what they said about the likes of Nkeal Harry. May Harry be the last fucking disaster pick in the first round for a while
dim kettle
The dude really thought drafting Harry and having Phillip Dorsett be a key receiver was a good idea.
I don't even know how Phillip Dorsett had a job after his time with the Colts.
smoky fable
I don't think so
smoky fable
I hope that Bill listens finally to his scouts and forever remembers going again...
They suck at drafting receivers.
rustic mountain
You're telling me
I've been experiencing it since fucking Chad Jackson's dumbass
Bethel Johnson
Fucking god
fluid moat
celest zephyr
<@456226577798135808> bruh you guys have to win this game
you saw the game against pittsburgh?
this team can barely beat the redwings and the blackhawks
vegas could put out an ahl team and the leafs would somehow have a decent chance of losing
celest zephyr
If the high end talent show up should be easy win
Unless their goalie goes off
If not then could be rough
celest zephyr
1-0 leafs
celest zephyr
yes mathews and marner scored
dim kettle
I saw. First game I'm watching on ESPN+. They really have every game now.
The Leafs are just dominating rn.
wet onyx
i know nothing about basketball and i have a question
in nfl terms
tell me about trae young
like
compare him to a player or something
celest zephyr
oh espn + nice
idk tbh the only guy who comes to mind for me is kyler murray
but i'd have to watch more of him to come up with a good one
wet onyx
i heard he’s really good but disliked
dim kettle
I still wish the Magic pushed more to get Young in the draft that year.
celest zephyr
mo bamba has to be one of the worst picks recently at this point
dim kettle
Mo is getting better. Because he's finally getting minutes to play.
dim kettle
He blocks shots like crazy and has a decent jump shot for a center.
IDK how it's only 2-0 rn. The Leafs could've scored 4-5 goals already.
And Matthews has a second goal now
celest zephyr
knights feel like just a shell of what they were for the past few years
ancient dagger
Makes sense given the injuries. But, they still have some vets that should be helping the coaches with keeping their play somewhat competitive. Seems like they're all lost in their heads and not confident at all.
This is the first adversity the organization has faced too, right?
They need some Lasso vibes.
Kings looked like shit up until two games ago cause they were lost in their own heads and had no confidence.
The body language was depressing.
Also, watch the intermission interview with Gabe Villardi during the blowout at the hands of the Blues for a real depressing moment. Kid was checked out as hard as one could be.
celest zephyr
feels like the organization has made panic moves
ancient dagger
Knights?
celest zephyr
yeah
ancient dagger
I haven't been paying much attention to comment on that.
Leafs coming hard right out of the gates. haha
celest zephyr
really wish i didn't have class or had a way to watch it
dim kettle
The Leafs win when you're in class. 
ancient dagger
haha, keep it up, Kimmy
dim kettle
4-0 Leafs
ancient dagger
celest zephyr
haha no lol
dim kettle
I swear the Leafs keep getting break away chances. What is defense, Vegas?
ancient dagger
Lehner is having a real bad time.
celest zephyr
they've lost twice on monday
ancient dagger
He's not happy with the defensive play at all.
dim kettle
I think the Bolts play the Leafs next. They keep getting 3 days off. Thank God I have ESPN+ to fill the void. lol
dim kettle
No, They have a day off than face the Sens next.
celest zephyr
oh sens shouldn't be too hard for the bolts
dim kettle
The Bolts are back to normal basically. The only team so far to beat the Caps in regulation.
ancient dagger
Yeah, kinda odd start to the season for a lot of teams.
I suppose a lot of that could be attributed to early injuries.
dim kettle
Usually by the end of December you can tell whose the contenders and pretenders are
ancient dagger
At least those that are doing poorly.
Then, you got the Sabres kicking butt. haha
celest zephyr
they'll fall off eventually
dim kettle
The Sabres always start good then lose 10 of 13 a month.
ancient dagger
Unless they actually do the Eichel trade and bring in some serious help.
No idea who they could actually trade him for that would be serious help though. haha
celest zephyr
a lot of contenders showing up already
dim kettle
They're the Mariners of hockey. No matter how much it looks good on paper, They always will find a way to punch their fans in the dick. And Chinese knock-off jerseys.
ancient dagger
a lot of contenders showing up already
Definitely a few, that's for sure. Avs...when they are playing their game, it is beautiful.
Their 5v5 looks like they are on the PP.
dim kettle
We all know their main goal is getting passed the second round and Stanley Cup.
They really are contending to be the new Caps of choking.
dim kettle
They would need 10 million bad contracts long term for that to happen. 
ancient dagger
I mean, now, yeah. I was speaking to being choke champions.
ancient dagger
I dunno. Leafs are a kinda unique.
dim kettle
I mean, the Houston Oilers of the early 90s maybe.
ancient dagger
Sharks were insanely competitive during the regular season for like over a decade. But, only got to the finals once and lost. They'd never get too far.
Everyone would expect great things from the Sharks.
dim kettle
Really, can't think much of a hockey choke compared to the Leafs rn
ancient dagger
Leafs...everyone expects them to suck.
celest zephyr
idk i feel like its more of when's the year they finally break through
dim kettle
That whole country of Canada chokes when it matters in the playoffs. Even the Habs failed last season. 28 years and counting.
ancient dagger
Yeah, that's the other thing with the Leafs too. They've not been very competitive until these last few years. Not in any meaningful way that set high expectations for them in the playoffs.
Habs didn't choke though.
They weren't expected to make it out of the 1st round
celest zephyr
hard to call it choking when tampa was just the first team that didn't overlook them
ancient dagger
nor any other
dim kettle
Yeah, that would mean the Habs would have expectations
ancient dagger
yeah
dim kettle
But, The Canucks, the Oilers, the Maple Leafs, Sens, Flames, they all find a way to choke comes the playoffs.
Don't forget the Jets.
robust grotto
Easy money @celest zephyr
dim kettle
Not just last season. We're talking about the many chances since 93
ancient dagger
Canucks not recently but, during the sedins era. yes.
robust grotto
Think we can beat the Canucks tonight? Igor vs Demko
dim kettle
Remember when the Sens always got owned by the Leafs no matter how good they were?
ancient dagger
I never paid all that much attention. I'm in LA too.
But, yeah, sometimes those match ups are brutal for whatever reason.
Those games are great for building the rivalry.
"why the hell do we keep losing to them? they suck!"
dim kettle
God, the Rangers and Devils have 10 o clock games on the east coast.
ancient dagger
"they keep losing to us! they suck!"
dim kettle
I hate west coast games.
celest zephyr
they are always fun when both teams are close
robust grotto
Yessser late nights for us. It’s enjoyable to me
We have a back to back w EDM and CGY on Friday / Saturday so I’m pumped for that
dim kettle
As the Rags lose 2 straight
ancient dagger
- Don't forget tonight's game.
celest zephyr
wouldn't mind that at all as a leafs fan
since tampa, boston and florida all seem to be good now
robust grotto
tough matchups but this team likes playing on the road, we should get one.. pls
ancient dagger
I have no idea if the rags won or lost their last game.
celest zephyr
won
dim kettle
Yeah, I'm never taking the Canucks seriously till Benning is thrown out the door.
celest zephyr
vs kraken
ancient dagger
right on
celest zephyr
pacific is a pretty soft division
ancient dagger
at the moment, yeah.
lots of injuries and rebuilding across the division.
At least for the better organizations that used to be pretty dominant.
Oilers...they have just been run by idiots.
dim kettle
Yet, the Pacific teams have more points to the Central teams so far. lol
celest zephyr
tbf happens when the blackhawks and coyotes are in the same division
and both suck
dim kettle
The Ducks this year so far look so much different. They can actually do things like score goals. And have a PP.
ancient dagger
That's good to hear.
I miss a strong Pacific division with real competitive rivalries.
ancient dagger
Soups with a great game tonight. Leafs are helping out well too.
dim kettle
Gonna be honest, the only team I see being really good in the future is the Kings. Seattle is new, Calgary is Calgary, (sorry, I don't trust you.) And the Ducks, IDK.
celest zephyr
oilers?
dim kettle
The Oilers are run by morons.
dim kettle
If anything, they're a first round, second round exit.
ancient dagger
I mean, they have been making some very big strides in improving how the organization seems to be run.
robust grotto
I’d like to see the Oilers do well but I have zero expectations besides at least making the playoffs
ancient dagger
They aren't switching up GMs and coaches every year.
There's some more sense and resolve to their plans.
celest zephyr
their gm almost got run out due to the current situation
ancient dagger
Keith...no idea about that decision. But, that's one "wtf" move compared to 324234 in past seasons.
robust grotto
Wild tie it, 4-4
celest zephyr
that nurse contract isn't good
ancient dagger
True.
robust grotto
Kimmy do you feel better now that NYR are in TOR company in terms of contracts
celest zephyr
what does that mean lol
celest zephyr
ah yeah
dim kettle
The Oilers lucked out as an organization getting McDavid and Draisaitl and nothing else to show for it. Literally the Oilers have shown no proof to backup their clams of the team being run better besides not firing everyone every 4-5 years into a rebuild. They still hired a GM that ran the Wings into the ground during his Twilight years.
celest zephyr
if they play well then its fine
tampa has a pretty similar situation but at the end of the day they are b2b champs
robust grotto
word… they don’t need to stress it as much
celest zephyr
i don't get why the oilers have so many like 5 mill contracts
dim kettle
The difference between Tampa and Toronto is the Bolts can pay less because they don't have to worry about a state income tax.
Same with the Panthers.
dim kettle
Canada's economy is always being fucked up. It's a reason a lot of Canadian teams moved to the US in the 90s.
robust grotto
Canada’s economy is why the league will never go back to QC
dim kettle
It's the main reason hockey has a hardcap. Without that, places like Winnipeg wouldn't have a hockey team rn.
ancient dagger
what do you mean?
dim kettle
Hockey by nature is all parity. Momentum changes on a dime in Hockey.
robust grotto
I’ve seen people argue it before. Basically.. Pittsburgh, LA, and Chicago dominated an era. TB is killing it right now. The same teams are always awful ( Sabres, Yotes )
ancient dagger
If a team with much more capital could spend as much as they wish the league would find a few teams being very very very good and many teams being very very very bad.
TB isn't killing it right now.
LA never dominated.
dim kettle
He means the era
ancient dagger
Neither did those other teams in recent memory since the cap.
robust grotto
Washington was dominant in the regular season for a long time
No I’m with you guys don’t get me wrong lol. I always feel you NEVER know who will win the cup going into the season
ancient dagger
Yes, same with most games during the regular season.
That's in part due to a hard cap for teams to spend on players.
dim kettle
What they never tell you is how big the margins are compared to other teams. Usually the top teams would only lead by 8-10 points compared to 7th, 8th seed teams and those 7th and 8th seed teams have shown to be threats come playoff time.
ancient dagger
Yes. Even those 8th seed teams have a chance.
dim kettle
The Kings basically beat the top 3 seeded teams in the west and make it to the Finals and win it all in 2011-12
As a 8th seed
ancient dagger
Yup. Parity!
robust grotto
That Blues run was insane too
dim kettle
The 2019 playoffs WE DON'T TALK ABOUT!
ancient dagger
The one they dominated. Then, it was game 7 after game 7.
robust grotto
My least favorite cup finals recently was PIT - NSH
Lasts years wasn’t so great either, sorry MTL lol
robust grotto
It never felt right
dim kettle
I'm a bias Bolts fan. I say they were the best Finals I saw. 
But the real finals were the Isles and Bolts.
robust grotto
For a neutral, that final was cheeks
celest zephyr
felt like houston - golden state in 2018
dim kettle
Except without 37 missed 3 pointers.
robust grotto
Looks like the Braves will end it tonight btw
dim kettle
I didn't really think the Kings and Rangers Finals was all that good till the Double OT game. That's usually the one I thought was disappointing.
robust grotto
You see I don’t wanna come off as defensive
robust grotto
But 3 of the 4 losses were in OT, two of those 3 being double OT
the game we got blew out was awful tho ofc
robust grotto
I understand why you think it was a poor series lol, 4-1 and it was low scoring
ancient dagger
Quick and Lundvist doing their thing.
dim kettle
Compared to the games the Hawks and Kings played. Yeah, it was pretty disappointing. OT alone doesn't change that IMO
robust grotto
Definitely I get it
celest zephyr
Looks like the Braves will end it tonight btw
atlanta can still choke
as long as the the game isn't over
dim kettle
And the Braves score again.
I love that one Astro fan in the crowd putting their head into a towel in disbelief after the Braves made it 5-0.
robust grotto
Fuck man I’ve really seen the whole damn NL East win it smh
dim kettle
Second NL East team the Astros have fallen to.
Somehow the Astros will beat the Mets in a WS to counteract this narrative, because why not.
robust grotto
Yup good points
honest umbra
did the braves win yet?
robust grotto
Up 6-0 after 5
robust grotto
Ye more or less
honest umbra
im glad pederson gets a ring
braves have some kewl players
funny they won without acuna
dim kettle
Dodger fans just thinking. "This could've been our moment! Damn these late injuries."
honest umbra
injuries are part of the game
i am not upset
at the end of the day, we lost becuz of our offense not our pitching
when the nl batting champion trea turner goes from batting .330 to mostly under .200 in postszn, its crazy
dim kettle
Sounds like Lowe. Hits dingers then suddenly goes 0-18 at bat.
wet onyx
🥲
dim kettle
robust grotto
lol god damnit man
celest zephyr
lmaooo
honest umbra
good for freddie
celest zephyr
yeah this is pretty much over
rustic ore
7-0 ATL after 8
simple seal
IS OVER
simple seal
hard peak
rustic ore
smoky fable
https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1455744846266699779
As expected
warm kestrel
<:ChopperAngery:586463518224547840>
Why the Chopper
You from Houston?
Makes sense
Get a better bullpen next time
hard peak
true.
honest umbra
very true.
rustic ore
As expected
Yeah, with how much scrutiny the Raiders were under for Gruden there was no shot they could justify keeping Ruggs when he literally killed someone
honest umbra
u watching this? @hollow wind
honest umbra
much closer game
than the one u went to
turn it on
should be good finish
lakers defense when it needs to turn on goes crazy
sweet tree
huh
celest zephyr
i'm kinda concerned with the lakers and their inability to put away bad teams
celest zephyr
sure its early in the season but struggling to put away the thunder and rockets isn't a good sign
hollow wind
Damn the big 3 went off
haughty moss
honest umbra
westbrook has been
looking rlly good imo
him/ad shouldnt shoot 3s
other than that, very good
wet onyx
i’m calling it now, mike white is the jets’s future
simple seal
dim kettle
Twitter
hard peak
https://twitter.com/rog_1298/status/791109412756844544
that’s crazy
wet onyx
that’s awful
dim kettle
robust grotto
Marlins 2003, Phillies 2008, Nationals 2019, Braves 2021. The pain of the Mets fandom rages on. Sick of watching all our division rivals win
wet onyx
saquon and gollagoat could play this week
robust grotto
I unironically have more faith that I’ll see a Mets championship before I’ll see a Rangers championship
celest zephyr
Twitter
wet onyx
i unironically have more faith that the jets will see the super bowl again before the giants
celest zephyr
not the craziest thing
giants are a shitshow
that doesn't look like it'll be winning anytime soon
dim kettle
I unironically have more faith that I’ll see a Mets championship before I’ll see...
Of course, because you know every 54 years the Rangers win a cup.
celest zephyr
hey that's better than the leafs
robust grotto
More or less I don’t expect any championships from my NYC teams
robust grotto
i unironically have more faith that the jets will see the super bowl again befor...
I’d be so happy for Jets fans
robust grotto
Of course, because you know every 54 years the Rangers win a cup. <:ShanksTroll:...
Thanks bud
wet onyx
I’d be so happy for Jets fans
at least one of the new york teams would make it😪
robust grotto
Facts ! I’d support a Jets super bowl
robust grotto
Jets fans are awesome, way better than giants fans
dim kettle
“ELI’s ELITE!”
Oh, no, the corner that didn’t give a shit about playing defense got cut
short spindle
robust grotto
Arsenal just soaring up the table
robust grotto
