also its really hard to put old players in current nba situations
#sports
honest umbra
they were who they was becuz they trained to be in that NBA
maybe shaq is shooting more 3's today or improves his shooting
who knows
tall temple
question to unclear, ended up getting boston shaq instead of prime shaq and my team fell to 10-72
honest umbra
but he was more dominant than embiid/jokic and they're favs for this years mvp
he woulda adjusted
but i will never see a center better or more dominant than shaq in 00-01
like specifically that year
tall temple
but he was more dominant than embiid/jokic and they're favs for this years mvp
depends on how his team plays
numbers wise, it would probably be like, jokic / embiid / curry in any order
right now, according to the nba.com ladder, CP3 is above curry in the rankings just because of the fact that the suns are like the 1/2 seed
but the numbers tell a different story
man, i love cp3 as a player and all but you cannot put him above curry that is just disrespectful
celest zephyr
warriors haven't won many games
just because of that curry really doesn't have much of a shot to win mvp
tall temple
yeah sucks
who you got winning roty
lamelo or ant ?
feel like lamelo gonna win off popularity alone and ratings
celest zephyr
lamelo
depends on if people think the 20 games matter a lot or not
westbrook only 3 rebounds away from setting the triple double record
tall temple
lets go russ
honest umbra
lets get it brody
smoky fable
It’s lamelo
hazy jacinth
shaq over duncan
celest zephyr
ONE MORE
hazy jacinth
RUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
smoky fable
He did it
haughty moss
there it is
celest zephyr
he did it
smoky fable
Let's see if they win this game
haughty moss
celest zephyr
smoky fable
Spurs up big on the Bucks
simple seal
Lightning lost 5-1 and rn 4-0 vs the Panthers, so they are 3rd seed and on the 1st round they will face... the Panthers
smoky fable
they should beat the panthers.
simple seal
They are getting destroyed rn so idk if 1 week will change that lol
celest zephyr
hawks choking
hardy wharf
He might heat up 4th qtr @haughty moss
smoky fable
1 point game
smoky fable
if he really top 5 he better lol
Ja isn't top 5 yet
haughty moss
oof
dim kettle
Lightning lost 5-1 and rn 4-0 vs the Panthers, so they are 3rd seed and on the 1...
To be fair, half of the great players were benched or injured.
But the defense just doesn't exist rn.
rotund carbon
Jalen Brown done for season
dim kettle
Vasy had one of the worst turnovers I've seen this season though.
smoky fable
Russ keeping the ball for history
hardy wharf
Steph might go crazy tonight
celest zephyr
that's every game
haughty moss
ye lol
dim kettle
I don't see Edmonton making it past the second round. This isn't basketball. Doesn't take one or two guys to win 4 hockey games in a 7 game series.
smoky fable
dim kettle
Now watch the Habs beat the Leafs 4-0 
smoky fable
Now watch the Habs beat the Leafs 4-0 <:ShanksTroll:743718967062823022>
When do the nhl playoffs start again?
Or the first round
celest zephyr
pretty soon
smoky fable
Alright
celest zephyr
vancouver still has to finish their games
dim kettle
Those damn covid outbreaks.
rustic ore
Or the first round
Tomorrow
smoky fable
thanks
celest zephyr
start 15th
celest zephyr
regular season ends 19th due to flames and canucks
smoky fable
Let's go Golden State
rustic ore
I hate it, I want him to grow it back 
haughty moss
smh he messed up
smoky fable
that looks wrong
rustic ore
Feel like one of those kids in those videos who get surprised by their dad's shaving for the first time in their lives and then cry about it
haughty moss
took the pic lol supposed to shave and hide under mask
tall temple
smoky fable
haughty moss
told bazemore to know his role
dim kettle
I'm gonna be honest. I still haven't gotten over the Stanley Cup hangover from last year. Literally feel nothing this year. Maybe that's because of how the pandemic limited how many teams a team got to face or the shorten season. I just don't have that emotion this year.
celest zephyr
yeah it was the same as a raptors fan last year
tall temple
drunk or just an absolute retard ?
rustic ore
https://twitter.com/NHLNetwork/status/1391937760542474240?s=20
Putting sponsor names before the directions is kinda yikes imo
celest zephyr
Putting sponsor names before the directions is kinda yikes imo
oh no that's what they are actually called lol
dim kettle
I actually don't care for those.
celest zephyr
yeah its whatever i get why
dim kettle
I've actually gotten used to seeing the Dex logo on the Bolts helmets.
smoky fable
Never seen that in other sports.
dim kettle
It's really not that different from the sponsors on the NBA jerseys
tall temple
https://twitter.com/NHLNetwork/status/1391937760542474240?s=20
that format and color they used make it look like they're still stuck in 2005 or some shit
smoky fable
It's really not that different from the sponsors on the NBA jerseys
I meant more of the sponsors in front of the directions
celest zephyr
yeah its different this year
smoky fable
I know the sponsors on the uniforms and such
dim kettle
I can't wait for ESPN to broadcast NHL games again. The last one was ironically the Bolts 2004 cup win.
celest zephyr
i mean they have some on espn+
dim kettle
i mean they have some on espn+
Yeah, but not broadcasted by them.
celest zephyr
ah yeah
dim kettle
Joy
Too bad Gary probably won't commentate any hockey games though. The man's a GOAT.
celest zephyr
this is a pretty good theme
proud coyote
haughty moss
Lmao
haughty moss
warriors almost choked
gloomy meadow
@sweet tree
This dude got injured while already being injured
https://twitter.com/theMadridZone/status/1392059626133336068?s=19
Twitter
restive sundial
more injuries than goals this season for madrid
smoky fable
Twitter
celest zephyr
https://twitter.com/BR_NBA/status/1391966983227199491
it was inevitable
smoky fable
Twitter
open sail
https://twitter.com/BR_NBA/status/1391966983227199491
pain
hazy jacinth
Wow no raps
celest zephyr
raps suck this season
celest zephyr
yeah
i mean they were never really in it
even when they made the run and were in the playoff picture idk at least to me it felt like it was just a matter of other teams getting their rhythm
before they'd be out
simple seal
Yeah, didnt see them getting pass the 1st round
celest zephyr
Yeah unfortunately
dim kettle
The Raps kinda have that KC Royals downward spiral from 2016-2017 period after winning the WS.
celest zephyr
i mean last year was good tbh
almost made the ecf
this year yeah for sure downward spiral
Probably a complete rebuild
if Lowry leaves
too much talent
fvv, siakam, gtj, og, flynn
are just too talented
for the team to ever suck
Siakam played horrible until only the later part of the season
Fvv is soo on and off
dim kettle
The Raps knew when they had Kawhi that it was boom or bust for them. They got the boom and now the consequences for him not staying.
celest zephyr
GTJ was a good pick up
dim kettle
The Raps knew when they had Kawhi that it was boom or bust for them. They got th...
That's what the Tampa Bay Bucs will face in 2-3 years if Trask doesn't become something.
The Raps need another superstar.
celest zephyr
Yeah its unfortunate we weren't able to keep Kawhi but it was expected
I will hold onto that title forever
dim kettle
Yeah, it was boom or bust. And you were lucky to get the best out of that.
Now sink into the Gulf of Mexico. 
Man, it's like by law that central Florida teams can't win shit in pro basketball.
celest zephyr
Sink clenching our ring
dim kettle
Cleveland will be waiting.
celest zephyr
We have some decent space in our cap, wonder if we can pull something off in FA
oh right nvm not anymore
only good thing to come out of this season was Boucher
dim kettle
Hey guys, It's DeMar DeRozan! He may not be the same player. But Nostalgia!
celest zephyr
I wouldn't mind, he was done so dirty
the only reason it was overlooked was because it resulted in a ring 😂
Not complaining but shame he went out like that
i mean demar has legit been better with the spurs
it was dirty but pretty glad he went to a good organization like the spurs and not to a bad one
dim kettle
Doesn't help when he was consistently owned by Lebron in the playoffs.
celest zephyr
pain
dim kettle
Man, Lebron beating the Raps is like the Bruins beating the Leafs.
celest zephyr
the leafs have a legacy of failure video on them
Those were some painful games
If we didn't have that ring, I would be thinking about that buzzer floater every night
dim kettle
I remember everyone was shocked but me seeing Lebron beat the Raps all by himself in 2018. The shit happened so many times that IDK how people were shocked about the outcome.
smoky fable
Thought the Celtics would have knocked them out
celest zephyr
Yeah after game 3, I knew Lebron was on a misson
smoky fable
That year
celest zephyr
oh yeah that was a very tight series
dim kettle
The Rockets annoyed me so much that year. Let's blame the refs calls. But not consider that they missed 27 consecutive 3 pointers.
smoky fable
Again, they just ran out of gas
Couldn’t keep up the effort up with the defense and offense
celest zephyr
I lowkey thought
Rockets might take the series
after the first half
until obviously what happened in the 2nd half
dim kettle
I remember I was considering not watching the NBA for a very long time during that 2018 playoffs. All I saw was Lebron making a mockery of the East. He was just one guy. One!
celest zephyr
Yeah it was horrible because
doing all of that was impressive, but it was obvious
no matter who came out
it was a guaranteed win for the Warriors
smoky fable
Really? I stopped watching the NBA because of the warriors
They made the situation worse with Lebron
dim kettle
And it didn't help that the NHL had so much better playoffs. Until I had to see my team choke game 6 & 7 in the third round.
Warriors built most of their core except KD. So there was some sort of respect for them.
celest zephyr
Yeah I can respect that but KD just put them leaps ahead of everyone else
smoky fable
That respect went out the window with the KD signing though
The Warriors were the only team to benefit from the salary cap jumping
celest zephyr
I don't think I have watched an NHL game since I was a kid
smoky fable
All the other teams overpaid for mediocre talent
celest zephyr
when the Bruins won the chip against the Canucks
smoky fable
Outside of horford and the Celtics to an extent
celest zephyr
Don't think I am tuning in until I see a Canadian team in the finals
however long that takes
dim kettle
KD joining the Warriors was a joke. But I don't blame him for fucking off to the Thunder. He was always gonna find a way to lose when it mattered. But it's really no different then when Lebron went to South Beach and I hated that too.
celest zephyr
Yeah don't get me wrong I have no respect for that Miami dynasty either
dim kettle
Don't think I am tuning in until I see a Canadian team in the finals
It's been like 10 years now since the last Canadian team made it to the finals. Almost 28 years since the last Canadian team won the cup. Most of the teams in Canada are kinda jokes.
smoky fable
That’s surprising
You’d think a Canadian team would dominate in hockey
But why are they a joke?
dim kettle
Most of them are living in the past or the fucking Flames and Maple Leafs.
celest zephyr
It's been like 10 years now since the last Canadian team made it to the finals. ...
That is a shame, hope I see one win in my lifetime
smoky fable
Oh
dim kettle
That's what every Leaf fan wishes. 
There were still 6 teams in the NHL the last time the Leafs won a cup. So they haven't even seen the cup in the modern era.
celest zephyr
Scratch that, the last time I watched an NHL game was a couple of years ago when I got free box seats to a Leafs game.
I couldn't even remember the experience from the top of my head
because I think we got blown out by Pittsburgh 6-0
dim kettle
Yeah, sounds like a Leafs game.
celest zephyr
smoky fable
What do you think of the flyers?
dim kettle
What do you think of the flyers?
Fuck them. I hate their fanbase and I hate that I thought they had a chance of a cup this year.
dim kettle
All that momentum they had before the pandemic was all a mirage come this season.
dim kettle
Know a few people that were fans of them
You go to a Flyers home. DON'T WEAR ANOTHER HOCKEY JERSEY! I wore my Stamkos jersey to one game and I got pelted with popcorn and stuff.
smoky fable
Fuck them. I hate their fanbase and I hate that I thought they had a chance of a...
Does that seem more in general of the flyer fanbase or Philadelphia as a whole?
Oh I guess that answers my question
dim kettle
They're the same fanbase that threw their wristbands of their dead owner onto the ice after a Penguins playoff lost a few years back.
dim kettle
Don’t know what happened
Coaching happened. Seems like nobody gives a fuck on that team.
smoky fable
Guess that makes sense
celest zephyr
because I think we got blown out by Pittsburgh 6-0
at least you got the leafs experience
dim kettle
You see those Ranger games where they scored 16 goals between 2 games? Yeah 8 goal leads against the Flyers twice in a short period of time.
smoky fable
They're the same fanbase that threw their wristbands of their dead owner onto th...
Remember the Eagles fans being viscous as well.
I do remember those rangers games
dim kettle
I need to stop hoping the Flyers will ever make steps towards cup contention. Always find ways to underachieved.
Kinda like the Flames.
Twitter
celest zephyr
oh boy that playoff series might be wild
dim kettle
Been waiting a long time for a Rats Bolts playoff series.
celest zephyr
rats lmao
dim kettle
Yeah, that's what Panther fans call themselves. They throw rats on the ice or some shit like that.
celest zephyr
crazy people
celest zephyr
celest zephyr
The new badge is terrible imo
burnt cedar
It looked bad alone
celest zephyr
I hate that clubs are changing them more frequently
burnt cedar
But I’m coming around to it on this kit
burnt cedar
I hate that clubs are changing them more frequently
Tbf it does happen a lot in history
The only issue I have
celest zephyr
celest zephyr
that badge is too complicated
smoky fable
celest zephyr
can't wait for the london fans to see the falcons choke
celest zephyr
at least you got the leafs experience
I guess
celest zephyr
Twitter
dim kettle
rustic ore
Watch the As go to Vegas as well
dim kettle
I feel like it’s gonna be there or San Jose
rustic ore
San Jose would be interesting
dim kettle
dim kettle
Says the Giant fan. 
proud coyote
A’s fans have major little brother syndrome
I want nothing more than for them to fail
As an org, as a team, as a fanbase
honest umbra
Cleaner than Neutrogena from the man from Argentina
sweet tree
im guessing that's Ray Hudson lol
gloomy meadow
I hate Roberto with a passion
rustic ore
https://twitter.com/mysportsupdate/status/1392212586054225925?s=21
Thank God, despised double headers for MNF Week 1
haughty moss
good no one wants to see broncos raiders on mondays
hidden rampart
I hate Roberto with a passion
gloomy meadow
but let's not blame him either
Yes Dest slipped up. Yes he was at fault. But I don't call him Barca's best defender like a certain someone does to Pique. See the small angle for Levante's goal and how he still managed to score. Or better even see Levante's 2nd goal and see who lost his man
Get some fucking standards and demand better than a finished 34 year old
sweet tree
the attack initiated once dest lost his footing, the forward took advantage of dest after he lost his balance. both at fault anyways
gloomy meadow
What a shitshow . Can't be fucking arsed with pathetic display
Atleast since we're out of the title race, I don't have to stress about the final 2 games and Koeman will be sacked now
You don't win any major trophies and big game with Gerard Pique, Clement Lenglet, Sergi Roberto, and Jordi Alba in defence and with a goalkeeper who can't even cover his near post.
The Liverpool and Bayern humiliations should've taught us that by now
Things Laporta needs to do in the summer
- Get rid of Koeman
- Get rid of ALL the French players in the first team
- Get rid of the bum Spaniards like Roberto, Firpo, Neto
- Get rid of players who shouldn't even be wearing a Barca jersey like Braithwaite
- Ask players like Pique and Busquets to either accept a bench role or get the fuck out
- Get backups (either signings or promotions) for Alba and Ter Stegen. Backups who ACTUALLY compete for these spots rather than exist to just warm the bench. Especially Ter Stegen
- Sign a number 9 and promote the CORRECT players from the academy
sweet tree
unlikely to get rid of all the players in 1 summer, busi is been good so I don't understand this one. Was definitely missed vs Atletico
torn crest
tbh apart from busi and messi, barca should just sell all the veteran players
playing sergi roberto literally cost barca the game
sweet tree
he should've been gone a long time ago
tall temple
@hidden rampart win today from philly and they clinch the first seed
or a loss from brooklyn / milwaukee
😈
simple seal
RIP Barcelona
sweet tree
well hopefully atletico wins the league
gloomy meadow
Hopefully a nuke falls down and the season gets void
You subbed on a clown
https://twitter.com/HagridFCB/status/1392242075526172680?s=19
Twitter
Twitter
Ter Stegen.... If I speak.....
https://twitter.com/xGPhilosophyEU/status/1392236027947933702?s=19
sweet tree
pedri missed 2 good ones in the first half
well one was a good save from their gk
mats really doesn't have those game clutch saves lol, instead conceded near post in the 3rd one. slow reactions
honest umbra
MATS has good games against teams like ATM where the shots are being sprayed at intervals
But for some reason against smaller teams, he concedes almost every single shot
He has been beyond subpar this season
Roberto is actually awful, like he shouldn’t see the pitch. And the substitutions made absolutely NO sense, we subbed on 3 RB’s at one point consecutively
Puig was sent on in the 86th and had more pivotal passes than the rest of the midfield in the second half
gloomy meadow
honest umbra
And even when he went to the midfield, he was giving away the ball so easily
Firpo as a direct CB or Dest on as a RB much earlier
Not taking Dembele off when he was our only threat
Not leaving two non defenders in Roberto and Dembele on the same side that conceded 2 goals
celest zephyr
Twitter
pacers aren't even a team lol
literally sabonis and a bunch of role players and bums
hardy wharf
Caris better than sabonis
dim kettle
Twitter
robust grotto
who gets Eichel ?
dim kettle
Probably the Rangers or Wings.
robust grotto
word I think LA or CBJ are in too
dim kettle
LA, definitely.
IDK what the hell the Blue Jackets are doing though. Not sure if they're going for a rebuild or trying to still compete.
robust grotto
CBJ have 3 firsts and obvious need for 1C, only reason o put them there
Plus Laine needs a C. And exactly... no one has a clue what they’re thinking
dim kettle
I think the Devils maybe in there too. But they'd probably have to give up Jack Hughes.
robust grotto
Not worth it for them. Imagine he went from Buffalo to Detroit lol
dim kettle
It sure would be quite the first bold move from Yzerman as GM. No, I'm not a salty Bolts fan. lol
robust grotto
hahah that’s the perfect job for him at least
smoky fable
Their histories are intertwined a bit
dim kettle
Sports shitposters are the best thing to happen to the internet.
smoky fable
Sports shitposters are the best thing to happen to the internet.
Do you know any for buccaneers fans?
Besides you
dim kettle
I know a couple of Buc fans on YT. But not shitposters.
Buc fans are more relaxed compared to other fanbases.
honest umbra
shitposting in sports is important
smoky fable
At least it’s not the NFC east
dim kettle
It's still the fucking Bears!
smoky fable
And you get to watch the buccaneers earlier
rustic ore
Bleh, Rams getting fed a team without a solid QB option just to give their fans hyped for their first in person view and in their new stadium, probably gonna mention that SB 56 is gonna be held in it
honest umbra
we playing the Bears?
hell yea son!
stafford gonna throw for 400 yds and 4 TDs
donald gonna have 4 sacks
dim kettle
Can the NFL ban the Bears from playing Primetime games till the McCaskeies sell the team?
honest umbra
you do not wanna throw fields out
in his first game to the rams
ik we said that about tua but tua played awful, his team played well
dim kettle
Oh throw him out there. Just not on my TV screen.
honest umbra
having no game experience or even sitting behind a QB experience
celest zephyr
true
honest umbra
and ur first game is with aaron donald on the other side?
celest zephyr
yeah might as well let dalton or foles get crushed
honest umbra
i want fields to succeed for a long time
but his first game can be like week 6
or something
celest zephyr
tua started midway through the season and he wasn't good
dim kettle
The best way for a QB to learn the pro game is to have them play. No ifs or buts. If your team is not already competing like the Mahomes thing. It makes no difference.
honest umbra
some of that is on the coach
some of that is becuz the QB before him was playing well
celest zephyr
like unless dalton and foles just suck he should just sit
honest umbra
some of that was having no WR's
some of it was him not being good
mahomes sat behind alex smith didnt he
dim kettle
Nagy is playing for his job. Why the fuck would he start Dalton over your priced new QB? Makes no sense.
smoky fable
Miami still needs running backs
honest umbra
which is crazy
becuz they had like what 4 last year?
gaskins far and beyond though
honest umbra
Nagy is playing for his job. Why the fuck would he start Dalton over your priced...
BECAUSE he's playing for his job
you could argue
dim kettle
mahomes sat behind alex smith didnt he
He also sat because the Chiefs were already a consistent playoff contender with Smith. What's the Bears excuse. How is Dalton better than Fields at this point? Sitting your rookie QB is such an overrated thing to do. Does nothing for the young QB.
celest zephyr
i mean fields is still a prospect
honest umbra
it depends on how limited preseason is
celest zephyr
like he can ball now but he is far from a finished product
honest umbra
but we say that and yet herbert was a beasttttttt
smoky fable
Can’t make those excuses anymore
honest umbra
did herbert start week 1?
celest zephyr
2
celest zephyr
yeah but that was also due to a complication with taylor
smoky fable
Yeah
celest zephyr
he probably wouldn't have started for at least a few weeks
smoky fable
Yes
dim kettle
BECAUSE he's playing for his job
No, Fields has the higher ceiling than Dalton. Name me the last 5 years that shit worked for a young QB? I'll wait.
smoky fable
Herbert got lucky
honest umbra
mahomes
smoky fable
One
dim kettle
One.
smoky fable
Who else
celest zephyr
Herbert got lucky
and then got screwed out of the rookie yards record
honest umbra
well the ratio of the successful ones starting week 1 isnt high either
dim kettle
Baker came in and made an impact, Herbert came in made an impact. Even Derek Carr made some impact on the Raiders his first year.
honest umbra
did baker start week 1
honest umbra
so basically what im getting here is ur qb will be good if taylor the QB goes out for some reason
not like im saying sit fields for the year
but 3 weeks isnt bad
u have dalton, foles and fields
dim kettle
did baker start week 1
He should've. Again. Tell me how well that works to bench your QB for the whole year. Mahomes and Palmer are the only ones who were benched their first year and actually succeed afterwards. And you can argue those guys should've started sooner than that.
honest umbra
thats like 2 just exaggerated backups
plus theres a camp
if dalton wins it, its for him to start
i wouldnt mind dalton or foles teaching fields a bit
honest umbra
i just dont think its a wise idea to throw fields out there week 1 against the rams
smoky fable
That’s more on the qb coach and the OC
They won’t throw fields out there against the Rams
celest zephyr
yeah not the rams
dim kettle
They don't teach the young QB shit. They fight for the job. That's all they care for. IDC what the QBs say to reporters. They only care for their job.
celest zephyr
maybe a soft game or stretch
smoky fable
They don't teach the young QB shit. They fight for the job. That's all they care...
That’s the qb coach’s job
celest zephyr
but like not against a contender
honest umbra
we all praised CHI for getting fields and rightfully so
dim kettle
That’s the qb coach’s job
Exactly.
honest umbra
but why werent they criticized for signing 2 glorified backups
i mean they were
but what was the thought process
smoky fable
Because those were the backup options to qbs
celest zephyr
tbf it gives them legit depth now
honest umbra
thats excessive depth
smoky fable
Tried to trade for Wilson but couldn’t get him
honest umbra
dont u think
smoky fable
It’s just backup options
celest zephyr
nah 3 qbs aren't that unusual
smoky fable
Otherwise they’d have no viable qbs options
dim kettle
The best way for a young QB to learn in the NFL is to play the game. You can't change that. It's been proven time after time.
honest umbra
3 qbs isnt unusual
but id argue all of them are half decent
and could be starters (on some team)
or def a good backup on most teams
its a good problem to have (kinda..?)
but kinda clogs everything when u sign a QB for the future
celest zephyr
i mean foles is coming off not a good season i think
dim kettle
Think about the Browns in 2018. If Baker starts week 1. Do you think they still win only 6 games? Do you think Tyrod Taylor would have the numbers Baker had?
honest umbra
tyrod taylor has had some baddd luck man
was so unfortunate what happened last year
bro the back if our qb stafford goes down
is JOHN WOLFORD
dim kettle
All I'm saying is. If I'm on the hot seat as a HC. I'm starting the young QB with a higher ceiling than Andy Dalton. The Bears already tried that shit with Mitch. How well did Mike Glennon do as a starter? 
rustic ore
I’d say don’t throw Fields to the wolves by making him the starter from the get go, dude has never called plays in a huddle before and is pretty much learning on the job, he’s gonna need time
honest umbra
^
smoky fable
Nfl game speed is different from college
honest umbra
which is why urban meyers is gonna suck
smoky fable
Not with Lawrence
honest umbra
but they got t-law so its ok
smoky fable
He’ll get a few wins out of them
smoky fable
Yes
honest umbra
oh thats a good example of week 1 rookie
dim kettle
I’d say don’t throw Fields to the wolves by making him the starter from the get ...
Again, the best way for a QB to learn is to play. If Troy Aikman could be worn by Reggie White twice his first year. Why can't a Fields. This isn't even a Tim Couch or David Carr situation this is a Bears team that made the playoffs last year.
smoky fable
Barely made the playoffs
honest umbra
their hot start had a lot to do with that
and some major luck
that bears team was not good man
rustic ore
Also they cut their #1 CB for God knows why
dim kettle
Because Pace is a moron.
dim kettle
Salary cap. Yeah, but they used that money to bring ANDY FUCKING DALTON IN. Man, what a great investment.
celest zephyr
that bears team was not good lol
dim kettle
That whole Bears offense could be replaceable.
smoky fable
Salary cap. Yeah, but they used that money to bring ANDY FUCKING DALTON IN. Man,...
They had no other qb on that roster
Besides nick foles
dim kettle
They still paid that much on him.
celest zephyr
they got desperate
they didn't know they'd have the chance to draft a future qb
then
dim kettle
Like, again. If you're Ryan Pace and Matt Nagy and you're on the hot seat. Why are you benching Fields a man with a higher ceiling than Andy Dalton? Like, I can keep repeating about the fact that benching your rookie QB on a bad team never works. But coaches will continues to think it works when it doesn't.
smoky fable
Cause he’s not ready
dim kettle
How do we know?
dim kettle
That's why you start him. See how he does. Because guess what, you're wasting the season regardless. You think Dalton is gonna give the Bears Ws?
honest umbra
yea
celest zephyr
if their defense carries then yeah
rustic ore
Like, again. If you're Ryan Pace and Matt Nagy and you're on the hot seat. Why a...
I’ve now come around on that and think they’re safe regardless of what the Bears do this year, otherwise why would the owners allow them to spend a future 1 to get Fields?
smoky fable
Their defense will have to carry that team
rustic ore
Also Fields himself said in an interview that he’s calling plays in the huddle and working under center for the first time, so he’s certainly not ready to start Day 1
dim kettle
Their defense will have to carry that team
If the defense is gonna carry the team. What's the point of benching Fields. It shouldn't matter, right? The defense will carry them.
smoky fable
I’ve now come around on that and think they’re safe regardless of what the Bears...
To be honest, it could also just mean they’re pushing all the chips in to save their job. Just because they dealt a future 1st doesn’t mean that they’ll be safe if they have a poor season.
smoky fable
If the defense is gonna carry the team. What's the point of benching Fields. It ...
A coach’s comfort level in a veteran qb that understands the offense.
That’s their reasoning
rustic ore
True but I just can’t see the owners okaying that unless they plan on giving those coaches another year to groom Fields, cause otherwise you’re looking at another Darnold in NY or Trubisky in Chicago situation
Where you’re forcing a QB on a new HC and GM who didn’t pick him
dim kettle
The damn coach is on the hot seat. If Fields is the player and person I believe he is which is a complete beast, learner, and facilitator he should be the starter.
smoky fable
It’d be better to move on quickly than to prevent those situations
smoky fable
Where you’re forcing a QB on a new HC and GM who didn’t pick him
I bet there would be a coach and GM that would believe in him. Even though the league wasn’t as high on the guy as fans were.
celest zephyr
The damn coach is on the hot seat. If Fields is the player and person I believe...
if he is that i'm probably going to have nightmares about the 49ers not drafting him
celest zephyr
i mean if fields is as good as he is considered then like a hc and gm might even come just for him
smoky fable
He’ll have to prove it on the field once he gets the chance
dim kettle
If you know Foles and Dalton aren't the dudes. It's better to find out early whether or not he's not the guy. Period. Why would you kick the can down the road to win meaningless games with a QB that you're not gonna win a championship with when you feel like you've drafted a QB you could win a championship team around?
rustic ore
You’re only doing that if he’s not ready
celest zephyr
lance is super raw
rustic ore
Which by every article I’ve seen so far he’s not
celest zephyr
like if he pans out then its great but if not then yikes
smoky fable
Lance will take some time
celest zephyr
yeah fields is by no means ready
dim kettle
You’re only doing that if he’s not ready
Was Derek Carr ready? Was Baker ready? Was Joe Flacco ready? Was Matt Ryan ready?
celest zephyr
unless he develops a lot before the start of the season he isn't going to be starter level
honest umbra
Dodgers are playing awful but I’m watching the Yankees stat sheets and their averages are awful
I’m surprised they’re beating the Rays rn
dim kettle
That's because the Rays batters suck this year.
smoky fable
Think they beat the knicks fate?
honest umbra
If the AD from the last 3 games show up, yes bu
But what do the knicks do better than most teams?
celest zephyr
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honest umbra
Their defense is rough and tough
So if AD go in there scared, we gonna lose
But otherwise we should be good
dim kettle
These are the Rays batters stats rn
honest umbra
Oh that’s somehow worse than the Yankees and us
smoky fable
But otherwise we should be good
The shooting was good from the others.
honest umbra
We all suck
smoky fable
Just have to get consistent production from them
dim kettle
That's because we keep trying to play longball when none of the batters can hit dingers consistently
dim kettle
And I also watch the White Sox. So going from that offense at bat to the Rays is fucking painful.
honest umbra
White Sox are fun to watch
rustic ore
https://twitter.com/ESPNUpstate/status/1392240563731247110
6 game suspension at minimum
honest umbra
But Dodgers offense has averaged 2 runs last 15 games barring 2 weird games where they scored 16 and 14
So watching any other offense is better
dim kettle
The Dodgers had something similar to this in 2018 at the beginning. They'll get hot again.
smoky fable
Too much talent
rustic ore
Can’t see LAD not repeating this year imo
honest umbra
Yes but we needed to go to game 163 against the Rockies with Buehler pitching marvelous
And Red Sox beat us in the WS 4-1
Not exactly a fond year to remember
smoky fable
honest umbra
This is more akin to the ‘17 record breaking Dodgers who were on path to break every single team record including Mariners wins and then lost 16 of 17 in September
No one knows how that happened to this day
dim kettle
Can’t see LAD not repeating this year imo
Really does depend if the Yankees or Red Sox can get hot in October. Although I think Boston will fall back down to earth soon.
honest umbra
If Dodgers don’t win, please let anyone but the giants Padres or astros win
I’ll take a braves WS win
dim kettle
I don't think the White Sox have a chance this year. They still don't have a good enough bullpen.
smoky fable
Cardinals?
honest umbra
Cards are annoying but they have goldschmucks and arenado so maybe
dim kettle
Oh and the Braves. Yeah, I don't trust those choking bastards.
honest umbra
Still don’t know how they choked a 3-1 lead to us
dim kettle
I still don't know how they allowed 10 runs in a important game 5 against the Cards.
smoky fable
Goldschmucks?
honest umbra
Goldschmidt
I was gonna think of a clever one for arenado too but couldn’t come up with one
smoky fable
Never heard of anyone insulting goldschmidt
honest umbra
Hard to believe the two sole destroyers of the NL west share the same team now
Not an insult, I don’t even dislike him. He just has a funny name
That team has some savvy veterans
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honest umbra
Should bring back Pujols too
smoky fable
Injuries strike again
dim kettle
Should bring back Pujols too
I was scared La Russa was gonna bring him to the Sox. I was ready to die.
smoky fable
I would have laughed
honest umbra
Only one team should bring him back
dim kettle
No one in the NL is gonna sign him. At best he's a DH.
But no matter the respect. He's still the slowest guy running to base at his age.
rustic ore
Just heard something kinda nutty on the Herd today
rustic ore
Apparently Baker is gonna be the first QB to start for 3 consecutive seasons for the Browns since 1950 
dim kettle
Apparently Baker is gonna be the first QB to start for 3 consecutive seasons for...
Since Otto Graham?
rustic ore
Yup
Guess that shouldn't be that surprising from the franchise that partially helped produce this beauty of a meme
Still though, just...wow
dim kettle
I think the Bucs would have a similar QB jersey if it wasn't for Brady rn.
tall temple
ben simmons gets his fifth foul off some bullshit call by the ref, sabonis literally ran into him and tried tackling him
thats so stupid man
whos officiating this game, swear to god if its tony brothers
i know he's out to get us
smoky fable
Luka had a bad game
celest zephyr
wow i thought philly was going to cruise to victory
celest zephyr
yeah but still they had a double digit lead
tall temple
got tired i guesss
celest zephyr
and the pacers are missing a ton of guys also
dim kettle
Watching the Rays this year is so boring af rn.
celest zephyr
like the pacers played brissett almost 29 minutes
tall temple
i hate mike scott
celest zephyr
and he could barely get minutes on the raptors lol
tall temple
he missed a open dunk on a tip in
celest zephyr
lmao
tall temple
why not start dwight
celest zephyr
they should just waive him
tall temple
i hope they will
and they just called some bullshit
MIKE SCOTT BRICK WIDE OPEN CORNER 3
LETS FUCKING GO
WHAT A LEGEND
honest umbra
because dwight wouldnt take that 3
smoky fable
honest umbra
and u need 3 takers
celest zephyr
lol mike scott
celest zephyr
because dwight wouldnt take that 3
considering how bad mike scott sounds like i'd rather dwight take a 3
he'd at least have an impact
tall temple
cold statline
honest umbra
dwight? u mean the guy who took a three from half court game 6 of the finals and nailed it?
smoky fable
Howard back in
tall temple
🔫
and just because it's the sixers, doubt we're winning against the heat
incoming ben simmons 6 pts 3-13 game, tobias 8-18, and like 24 points from joel
haughty moss
oh ben played tonight? haven’t kept up
dim kettle
great coach, and bad coach
Same guy who took away seeing Tim Duncan in a Magic jersey. I know the feeling.
smoky fable
Same guy who took away seeing Tim Duncan in a Magic jersey. I know the feeling.
why is that?
dim kettle
He didn't like him or some shit. We could've had T-Mac and Duncan on the same team.
tall temple
tmac and duncan would've gotten a chip
smoky fable
thought the lottery didn't even go your way though
smoky fable
He didn't like him or some shit. We could've had T-Mac and Duncan on the same te...
Did the Magic have the chance to get him?
dim kettle
No, we were gonna trade for him.
dim kettle
Wait, no. I think it was free agency.
smoky fable
oh
dim kettle
Yes, please.
celest zephyr
well yeah
celest zephyr
i mean tbh the sixers should have not rested this game
dim kettle
Anything to give us a a better chance to beat you later with Cade.
celest zephyr
and just went all out to win
honest umbra
bro seeds dont matter that much, xrz
honest umbra
y?
smoky fable
Home court matters
honest umbra
theyre def top 4 seed
arent they
oh u mean home court like in ecf or soemthing
dw nets gonna lose
celest zephyr
yeah but it'd be nice to have homecourt over the bucks and nets
idk i mean harden kyrie and kd can legit win a series by themselves
smoky fable
If they stay healthy
smoky fable
Suns missed Jae Crowder evidently
tall temple
against anybody.
honest umbra
who do the magic have?
tall temple
wendell carter, cole anthony
smoky fable
tall temple
gary harris
honest umbra
oh so they suck
tall temple
Shitma
trade him
his contract expires in 2022 offseason, better trade him soon or else (in a couple years) his value's gonna decrease due to being on an expiring deal
tall temple
it has done absolutely nothing
honest umbra
man hardwood paroxysm usually has it right
dim kettle
that bulls vucevic trade still makes zero sense to me
And I get to enjoy the wonderful 1st pick from that trade. :3
tall temple
holy hell... orlando PLEASE COME BACK
honest umbra
deal with who?
smoky fable
The play in game
tall temple
if milwaukee loses rn they're eliminated from the first seed race
proud coyote
3 more games still
dim kettle
holy hell... orlando PLEASE COME BACK
no
smoky fable
if milwaukee loses rn they're eliminated from the first seed race
To the dismay of Siren
Yep
Still think the Blazers don't finish worse than 6th
proud coyote
And I get to enjoy the wonderful 1st pick from that trade. :3
I'm sure if you asked the Magic's GM who was asking for Vucevic before the call, the Bulls would have been one of the last teams he listed
smoky fable
play the clippers in that scenario.
honest umbra
u wanna play clippers, juba?
proud coyote
no
smoky fable
Might not have a choice
honest umbra
dame send pg13 crying
proud coyote
serge will murder us
honest umbra
vintage carmelo comes to life
celest zephyr
mavs have such a soft schedule though
if they can't go 3-0 in their remaining games then they kinda don't deserve the 5 seed
smoky fable
He's coming back soon
celest zephyr
if dallas doesn't underperform its going to be hard to keep up pace
celest zephyr
yeah
proud coyote
they might rest players though
celest zephyr
i could see denver doing it
proud coyote
suns too
smoky fable
that's if the jazz win their games for the suns to rest
celest zephyr
they'll probably want to seal the 1 seed
tall temple
only game i see portland winning is denver becuase they got a few injuries, just gotta hope mpj doesn't destroy them
celest zephyr
i mean for phx though it might be better to just rest
smoky fable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU5hYlCtJbg
Think he goes to Texas or Bama
Sark has a connection with the Mannings
rustic ore
Yeah I can't not see Texas as a finalist to land him
rustic ore
Alabama would also be super interesting because by the time Arch would graduate that would be right in line with when Bryce Young would be eligible to enter the draft, and if he turns into a monster at the college level like he was at the HS level I can't see why he wouldn't come out when he can
dim kettle
dim kettle
They forgot losses at the last minute
That's what's gonna be different this year. 
dim kettle
Yeah, they're gonna suck. Imagine Detroit sports actually being good.
smoky fable
This Warriors team would be scary if they had another scoring threat. Anyone that could replace Thompson at a respectable level.
Sure would have been nice to have Lamelo...
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haughty moss
Drew Lock szn 🔥🔥🔥
haughty moss
blackout worthy game
smoky fable
Think the broncos are a more talented team though
Even with fangio struggling at head coach at times.
dim kettle
Drew Lock vs Daniel Jones
Imagine the shitposting material that will come from it. Think about it. FivePointVids vs ThatsGoodSports. The battle of Derp
smoky fable
It'd be something to watch
celest zephyr
i mean the giants have made some moves
dim kettle
Vic still looks like a older Jon Taffer.
smoky fable
He knows his defense though
smoky fable
I hate warriors announcers
Curry with 4 points
Close game with the Knicks and Lakers
honest umbra
who is arch?
rustic ore
Cooper's son
honest umbra
whos cooper?
honest umbra
why wasnt he a good qb?
rustic ore
He played WR in HS but had to retire before playing at college because of a spine condition
rustic ore
Yeah, seeing a Manning who can actually run is a first for me
celest zephyr
would be weird to see another Manning against tom brady
rustic ore
Iirc their dad Archie was a mobile QB for the Saints back in the day, but by the time he retired I was still like 12 something years off from being born so he doesn't count
honest umbra
need another QB like burrow
dim kettle
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smoky fable
saw that
celest zephyr
celest zephyr
i don't get why the kings try hard at the end of the season
like its just sucking and then actually trying
if they were consistent they'd actually do something
celest zephyr
lmao yeah
honest umbra
beat the lakers and also the blazers?
also if by some crazy luck
they got into play ins
every single team in the pacific division would be in the playoffs or play ins
celest zephyr
the spurs have a hard schedule
honest umbra
the spurs needa give up lol
celest zephyr
oooh the kings play utah
smoky fable
Grizz are getting better and better
celest zephyr
they are yeah
honest umbra
dodgers down 4-1 bases load
mookie 9 pitch ab
gets called out on the 9th pitch (left red of your screen)
when will we get electronic umpires?
dim kettle
Trust me, I had to deal with Ángel Hernández on Sunday with the Sox. The dude's strike zone was all over the place.
Robo Umps can't come soon enough.
honest umbra
not even just him
i feel like most of them suck now
getting a good one is rare now
dim kettle
Angel and West are like the worst of the worst in that case.
dim kettle
Of course it would be Seattle that would choke a lead like that.
dim kettle
The Mariners are pretty good so far this year. But I'm still expecting them to miss the playoffs again by 2 games. Because that's what Seattle baseball is all about. Punching the fans in the dick.
honest umbra
please please PLEASE dont let our BP ruin it
as they so often do
let us have this win
dim kettle
I think WCW was still around the last time the Mariners were in the playoffs. I think this is like the 5th 6th time they've rebuilt.
honest umbra
they have had some amazing players man
dim kettle
Griffey, A-Rod, Félix, Ichro. Oh, poor Ichro.
One of my favorites as a kid.
Dodgers escaped with that one.
honest umbra
lakers and dodgers win almost in the same min
after being down most of the game
what a blessed day
smoky fable
A good day
dim kettle
All I saw was the Rays boring me to death and seeing the Sox destroy the T___s.
Twitter
Why does every generational baseball talent have to be on the fucking Angels?
The team is just a big ball of nothing.
dim kettle
I can't believe people really watch that crap.
dim kettle
Even if they scored 100 runs. They'll find a way to lose 101-100.
smoky fable
Jon bois had a good series on the Mariners
dim kettle
Yeah. WCW was still around. 
dim kettle
Baseball rebuilds are long. The Pirates had like 20+ years with no playoffs till 2013.
dim kettle
Also, Seattle is the only team to not make a WS.
They're truly the Cleveland Browns of Baseball.
honest umbra
and the one year they did make the playoffs and championship series
they had the best record
ever
dim kettle
And laid an egg against the evil empire.
honest umbra
shoulda saved some of those wins
sacrificed a bit too much
the evil empire isnt looking too evil these days
smoky fable
The manager wasn’t willing to spend
dim kettle
the evil empire isnt looking too evil these days
As it should.
What do you expect from a team owned by Nintendo.
They still own like 10% of the team.
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