havent heard much about bridgewater
#sports
honest umbra
dim kettle
That’s why people like me weren’t all hype about Burrow coming in because I questioned if it was just a great offense he was in or was it really Burrow
proud coyote
was a mixture
proud coyote
even in that crazy offense no one puts up numbers like that
smoky fable
I still think Burrow didn't have that great of arm strength in the league with what he's showed us
honest umbra
i still think burrow proved he deserved to be a starter on a NFL team
smoky fable
that's his only flaw
honest umbra
he was good
smoky fable
true. I'm just nitpicking
smoky fable
I just wouldn't rule taking another qb
dim kettle
And now with Burrow suffering that gruesome injury. There's no way of knowing if the great thing Burrow had, that mobility, will even be a thing when he comes back.
smoky fable
Teams can jump into contender status with a "great" qb at a rookie contract.
smoky fable
roman hasn't been that good with playcalling.
but yeah jackson has regressed in passing
dim kettle
Going through Michael Vick simulator
honest umbra
and he lost his 2 rbs for the thursday game
proud coyote
it's just the typical roman stuff
smoky fable
I know niners fans don't like roman
smoky fable
he did lose stanley to be fair. that hurts alot
dim kettle
Another thing to look at is the Ravens receivers. Umm... Marquise Brown? They don't have the best ones around.
honest umbra
i love hollywood brown
he deserves more than 1 reception
mark andrews is a stable set of hands
so was the other TE that got injured
lamar just couldnt pass
also dez bryant a GOAT
dim kettle
They're not bad. They just don't make much of an impact IMO.
smoky fable
andrews has a tendency to drop passes.
honest umbra
never forget siren, dez caught it
dim kettle
Cowboy fans cry in the corner
honest umbra
he may have picked up 30 pounds in the time he had off
but we never forget dez
andrews could play his game becuz the other TE did the blocking
so basically, the ravens are crumbling
dim kettle
The Ravens in their TEs. It's like Joe "Elite" Flacco is still there in spirit.
smoky fable
they do have good tight ends
dim kettle
If I'm the Ravens front office. I would look for some more offensive talent. You don't want to be like the Falcons when they had Vick.
smoky fable
Jim's going to get a head coaching position before that happens
honest umbra
why did he even leave
smoky fable
because Baalke hated him
honest umbra
im certain another NFL team would have loved him
dim kettle
Michigan paid him a shit ton of money.
honest umbra
oh and he got to do cool ass shit recruiting
dim kettle
I remember Jim was suppose to coach Oakland.
dim kettle
To think the Bucs were close to get Gruden back too.
honest umbra
dw monster, half the stuff im saying is in jest
gruden would be nice with brady
"aite bud you gotta listen to me, im the expert here"
smoky fable
tuck rule
dim kettle
Gruden is so entertaining when he's mic'd.
smoky fable
true
dim kettle
dim kettle
I'm not worried about playoff position. The new playoff system is so generous.
proud coyote
yep but 5th seed means you play the NFCE
dim kettle
It would only be a Bucs game if they lose to that NFC Least team in January.
dim kettle
Arians isn't leaving unless Licht goes with him.
proud coyote
you think he'll stick by him through thick and thin?
dim kettle
And the Glazer Family. They extended Jason Licht as GM. Pretty much rewarded 5 years of failure. Shows you how much they really know what they're doing.
smoky fable
he's been average. Don't think he's been awful as a gm.
dim kettle
Have you not seen his drafts? Like the last 3 drafts have been the only decent ones. 2014 and 2016 were really bad ones.
pallid gyro
Facts
dim kettle
Let's draft a kicker in the second round. Great idea
pallid gyro
Lmao
For now I think the Saints are the best team in the NFC as long as Brees is healthy for them. Rams defense is obviously great but Goff isn’t good enough
dim kettle
Brees doesn't need to be on the team for them to succeed. Sean Payton is so good as HC that any QB could fill in.
pallid gyro
That is true I’m just saying it helps
And for the AFC I’m really looking forward to a potential Chiefs and Steelers game
dim kettle
I was a little disappointed that they let Bridgewater walk because I thought he fit perfectly for that system Payton has.
dim kettle
My pick is the Steelers. That defense is top 3.
The Dolphins really look silly as usual trading away Minkah Fitzpatrick. He's a beast.
pallid gyro
Yeah the Steelers are definitely a contender. I honestly think the only offense that could really hurt them is the Chiefs and that’s because of Mahomes and Andy Reid together is a deadly combo
Plus all the talent
smoky fable
I'm not betting against Mahomes
pallid gyro
A lot of people are very certain the Chiefs will win and I would bet my money on them but there are a lot of good teams to watch out for
I would not be shocked if they didn’t win
dim kettle
Playoff Mahomes is scary, I can agree. The Chiefs defense on the other hand. They're ranked pretty good, but I still don't trust them. That's probably the Chiefs blind spot IMO.
smoky fable
NFC seems to be a mixed bag compared to the AFC's top teams
pallid gyro
Yeah the defense looked horrible against the Raiders. But in the end as long as there is enough time on the clock and they aren’t down by multiple scores give me Mahomes and I always have a chance
He should definitely be the MVP favorite now
pallid gyro
1.Mahomes 2. Rodgers 3. Russ are my current top 3 QB’s
dim kettle
You also have to remember that the Texans scored 24 unanswered points in the first quarter against the Chiefs before Bill O'Brien did Bill O'Brien stuff and blew it in like 5 minutes.
pallid gyro
Yeah that’s true
Obviously a lot could change and go wrong but if you had to predict how many MVP’s and rings Mahomes will have by the end of his career what would you predict
pallid gyro
I could see that. I saw earlier that he said he wants to play as long as Brady is so who knows as long as he keeps longevity and consistency
dim kettle
I think the best chance Mahomes has to get multiple titles is this window. Because the future is uncertain with the Chiefs. Andy Reid has to retire sooner then later and players need to be paid.
smoky fable
they're already paying players
pallid gyro
Yeah the Chiefs need to do whatever they can now
smoky fable
it's when those players get hurt such as chris jones where they might falter
dim kettle
Yeah, cap hell is coming for the Chiefs.
smoky fable
they just have to replenish the weapons around them. have to find suitable replacements for hill and kelce once they leave
and shwartz
pallid gyro
Yeah
It’s gonna be harder to win rings for sure but I have no doubt Mahomes can win a shit ton of MVP’s if he keeps playing like this
smoky fable
might get the lebron treatment.
pallid gyro
That would be cool if he broke Manning’s record
Yeah there already is some Mahomes fatigue and it will only get worse the more he wins
dim kettle
Lebron treatment? You mean the Manning treatment? Where if something bad happens it's everyone but Mahomes's fault. Someone had to replace him, I guess.
smoky fable
referred more to voter fatigue, but that's valid
pallid gyro
Yeah
dim kettle
That too. 
pallid gyro
Imagine if he doesn’t throw a pick the rest of the season it’s highly unlikely but he’s already got 27 TD- 2 ints
dim kettle
The problem with the Chiefs is once Reid retires as HC he retires as GM. Because let's face it, Reid was pretty much GM as well.
smoky fable
guess that's true as well
pallid gyro
Facts
smoky fable
I still think Veach is capable
dim kettle
We'll see.
pallid gyro
Reid is 62 so when do you think he will retire then
haughty moss
More than capable
pallid gyro
Imagine Mahomes on the Saints
dim kettle
Insert Bears meme -here-
pallid gyro
Lmao
smoky fable
Ryan Pace screwed up badly there
dim kettle
Mediocrity of the Midway
smoky fable
That defense is good, and the offense has weapons, but it'll be let down by qb play and Nagy to an extent.
Deferring to Bill Lazor is pretty awful
dim kettle
If the Bears were a well run organization they would have fired Ted Phillips a long time ago.
I call them the Edmonton Oilers of Football. Because they only talk about the how good they were in the 80's and call it a day.
smoky fable
and they only won once...
dim kettle
They make it sound like they won 4 titles
dim kettle
Oh, I feel bad for Lovie. Had to deal with a terrible front office and players for 8 seasons.
haughty moss
They deserve what they got
smoky fable
what makes you say that?
dim kettle
The Bears fans are going through what Blackhawk fans dealt with for a long time. They're waiting for the owner to die.
smoky fable
waiting for the mccaskeys to kick the bucket huh
haughty moss
what makes you say that?
Organization, not the fans.
smoky fable
you're not wrong there
dim kettle
There should be a rule in sports that whenever the name Mccaskeys is said. A laugh track and clapping is played.
honest umbra
siren
smoky fable
also, did not expect this much activity for the sport's channel. damn, I missed out a bit.
honest umbra
did u watching urinatingtree houston curse video
dim kettle
Yes.
honest umbra
i was just reminded that texans led 24-0 against the chiefs and lost the lead
in 10 mins
10 MINUTES
dim kettle
Bill is a hack.
smoky fable
that fake punt attempt backfired
honest umbra
bob decided to not go for a 4th and inches, ran a fake punt on a 4 and 5
and then they got 40 unanswered scored on
dim kettle
They go for the safe FG then go for it near their own zone. I got heated when that happened.
smoky fable
hopkins got hurt in that game as well
pallid gyro
I remember when Hopkins had that game winning touchdown against the Bills how everyone was flaming Bill O’Brien
honest umbra
they apparently dont even have their picks this year
pallid gyro
As they should be
honest umbra
becuz of tunsil
pallid gyro
Dang
honest umbra
or well next year
dim kettle
They overpaid tunsil too.
pallid gyro
Lmao
smoky fable
you helped rebuild a franchise
pallid gyro
Yeah
honest umbra
dolphins looking good
smoky fable
although herbert is the better qb
honest umbra
and now got 2 picks too
dim kettle
At least Houston has their trashcan.
smoky fable
jamar chase sounds good
pallid gyro
Herbert has definitely impressed me
honest umbra
yea but why did he cut his hair
smoky fable
they're going to lose springer. ouch
honest umbra
and brantley
the thing issssssss
would any team sign springer
would he feel welcomed
pallid gyro
Heard the jays want too
dim kettle
The only thing Houston will have fun with this year is laughing at the Cowboys.
honest umbra
the tampa bay jays?
pallid gyro
True
smoky fable
cowboys still might make the playoffs though.
honest umbra
any team can make the playoffs
in that NFCE
they just need a 3 game winning streak
smoky fable
in that trash fire of a division. absolutely
pallid gyro
Oh lmao thought you were talking about George springer my bad
dim kettle
I want the Washington <redirected> to win it.
honest umbra
def have the best defense out of em
smoky fable
I still don't trust them
smoky fable
Rivera is going to look for a new veteran qb
Prescott maybe?
Stafford might also be gone. Hopefully not the niners.
dim kettle
No matter what happens. Daniel Snyder will always be there to ruin Washington fans happiness. At least they have the Caps.
smoky fable
that field is also an injury hazard
smoky fable
yeah, he sucks
honest umbra
legit the new stadiums 15 mins from me
dim kettle
Except, he doesn't sue old people for season tickets.
honest umbra
and even i ask 'why'
smoky fable
did you move with them from saint louis?
smoky fable
you just chose that team. nice to see
dim kettle
I don't even think there's even Ram fans in STL anymore.
honest umbra
the team i supported before the rams was.. carolina panthers becuz I loved newton
smoky fable
surprised you weren't a niners or raiders fan
honest umbra
from auburn
smoky fable
familiar with rivera
honest umbra
i follow all major sports and NFL was the least of my love
lakers and dodgers all day
rams just happened to move into team
smoky fable
hey, those are two teams
honest umbra
and yes I supported them even in the first season here when they sucked
honest umbra
but if rams had a gamer tomorrow against the raiders/9ers/packers/steelers/cowboys
dim kettle
Fate is a privileged fan as you may see. 
honest umbra
they would get 70-30
fan ratioed
bro i couldnt be a lakers bandwagon if i tried
LOL
smoky fable
I know
honest umbra
i saw possibly the worst LA teams to ever suit up in our history
and still went to their games
smoky fable
they were terrible
honest umbra
and i remember the pre new management dodger teams
the first rams game i went to was last year
MNF against the ravens
we lost 52-7 or sum shiz
smoky fable
oof
dim kettle
Being a Tampa fan well... Getting sweep after winning 62 games. That one hurt my soul. The Bucs were my blooper reel for the last decade. The Rays being cheap.
smoky fable
that's cool to see
honest umbra
yea hes def a presence lol
he attracted so many ppl
but yea i support all LA teams unless you're one of the subpar LA teams aka the clippers or angels
subpar as in little brother
dim kettle
You see, with soccer. I don't know shit about it. So I get lost real quickly with it.
honest umbra
they used to give out free clipper tickets pre-blake griffin days when i was in 1st or 2nd grade
smoky fable
only really follow the world cup
smoky fable
donald sterling did that? that surprises me
honest umbra
even with lob city, i was like "nah"
dim kettle
I don't even really get to watch Basketball much and I'm lucky to know a lot of it.
honest umbra
i doubt it was sterling, they were probably highly subsidized since they were so cheap
honest umbra
how could i forget
paul-kobe woulda been a diff level of beast
paul was MVP candidates those days
how soon ppl forget
cp3's iq with phil jackson woulda been insane
dim kettle
Oh, the Clippers. I remember Chris Kaman being their best player and then laughing until Blake and Paul came in.
honest umbra
bro kaman was actually respected before he became a meme
elton was prob their best though before lob city
we are living through the best team the clippers have ever assembled in current time..
smoky fable
he's not a good basketball front office guy.
honest umbra
and they still cant get out the 2nd round
oh hes awful, hes ruining the 76ers
but still, you know
smoky fable
he sucks
they had to get morey to bail them out
and that is relevant to urinating tree's houston video
honest umbra
who woulda thought hiring rivers and morey would make your team better
they made smart decisions this offseason
smoky fable
ehhh, rivers is questionable
honest umbra
yes i do believe he is overrated
he is certainly not a top 5 coach, he is a top 1 player coach
smoky fable
that choke against the nuggets was legendary
haughty moss
remember the chris paul david stern trade nix
Don’t remind me
dim kettle
I'll keep saying it. NBA GMs are some of the worst I've seen in North American Sports
honest umbra
but he is good enough to be a coach
honest umbra
see the thing is, in dont disagree with what presti's doing
but i hate the notion of more draft picks = being a good gm
esp in the NBA
smoky fable
and the Memphis grizzlies are basically nba scout twitter
dim kettle
I'm not even a Hornet fan. And MJ gives me headaches with how much he overpays players.
honest umbra
in the NBA, you have 60 picks
smoky fable
or analytics twitter
honest umbra
most players in the 2nd round never even play in the NBA
if you have like 5 picks between 20-50, they're kind of luck or you suck
smoky fable
tanking was pretty prevalent
honest umbra
and most teams arent willing to trade down in the NBA for 3 picks
smoky fable
but this last draft sucked out loud
honest umbra
if theres a player like zion available
smoky fable
or luka
dim kettle
Also, the lottery is a joke. For both NHL and NBA. Teams tank regardless.
honest umbra
well they've made tanking elss in the NBA
smoky fable
they adjusted the lottery odds for the nba
honest umbra
idek if the worst record teams in the NBA
have won the lottery in a while
they've flattened the tank odds
knicks keep getting the worst of it lmao
smoky fable
I don't think so
dim kettle
And don't forget NBA lottery has been questioned for being really, really rigged.
smoky fable
Pelicans and Wolves jumped up
honest umbra
bro what made them go from doing the nba lottery alive
to backstage?
what was the reasoning?
honest umbra
"oh pelicans are gonna lose, lets conveniently have the pelicans get 1st pick even though their chances are LOW"
but at the same time, tis hard to see if its rigged
why wouldnt they give knicks the first pick lol
smoky fable
I don't think it's rigged
honest umbra
NY is such a huge market for stars
dim kettle
I can't watch the NBA because players would rather give middle fingers to their fanbases and go ring hunting with Lebron, etc.
smoky fable
dolan sucks as an owner
honest umbra
zion in NY would make you BANK
smoky fable
super teams suck
haughty moss
Dolan is awful
smoky fable
golden state with KD made me give up watching
honest umbra
but lebron gets his teammates paid after they win a ring
he got tristan thompson a fat contract
smoky fable
Hated KD for that
honest umbra
rondo this year
dim kettle
You know, when Dwight Howard was traded. A part of my basketball fandom went with it. I can't imagine what Thunder fans, Pacers fans had to deal with.
smoky fable
along with schroeder
smoky fable
yeah he was good with the thunder
honest umbra
hes so explosive and makes his own shots
smoky fable
he's a good bench player
smoky fable
caruso
honest umbra
his pick n rolls with harrell gonna be nice
lakers def had the best offseason
but its only because they refused to stand by
smoky fable
we'll see
honest umbra
hawks and blazers had really good offseasons too
smoky fable
warriors got screwed though by that injury. feel awful for klay.
honest umbra
i love klay, i hope hes able to return
i may have hated that team
but i loved watching the style they played in
smoky fable
I just hate draymond
honest umbra
if you were watching a warriors game
you werent gonna be bored
klays 37 point in one quarter
or 60 points in 3 quarters
smoky fable
thanks billy donovan
dim kettle
You know with the NBA. the last 10 years. It feels like it's more of a club for NBA stars. I don't care much for the same teams winning championships I care more about how 90% of the league is already screwed from the start.
smoky fable
it's a superstar driven league where the players have the power
dim kettle
Yeah, really, this is a problem the NBA can't fix.
smoky fable
nope
dim kettle
You what would help? If the NBA didn't encourage 1 and done drafting. I wish the NBA would be like the NFL and make it that NBA players have to be 20 or older to play for their league. You most likely see rookies have more impact immediacy.
dim kettle
Oh, he's gonna be unstoppable by then.
dim kettle
You have to imagine if Doncic would have been drafted at 24 years old. He would make a horrible team a contender in a year.
smoky fable
Kings and suns were idiots for passing on him
Hawks are a wash, but Luka is probably better at the moment
haughty moss
Those young guys benefit a lot from getting to the league sooner.
dim kettle
I thought Deandre Ayton was overhyped even before that draft. Again, IDK how these 19 year old kids are suppose to make an impact immediacy. More times then not, it doesn't happen.
dim kettle
Those young guys benefit a lot from getting to the league sooner.
Do they though? Isn't that what college suppose to do? If some top NFL rookies struggle early on being 24 or older. What makes you think NBA players who are younger gonna do? You look at Hockey and Baseball. Some of these top picks don't even play until they're 24-25.
NBA is encouraging something that's unhealthy for teenagers. Fame, money, you're suppose to grow up first before you can handle that.
haughty moss
Yeah they do. For one, base salary + sooner getting on that 2nd contract. The younger guys also have had a lot of knowledge at their disposal, so some of them are coming in already polished. Guys like Tatum, Embiid, Porzingis, etc.
smoky fable
porzingis is a different case since he played in the euro league
compared to the ones that played in college
haughty moss
I’m saying Porzingis in relation to access
smoky fable
access in terms of?
haughty moss
Film
haughty moss
As in generations compared to older players
dim kettle
But, you also failed to mention that most top 10 picks don't make an impact immediately. College Basketball isn't suppose to be a one year pitstop to have TV spotlight before heading to the NBA. You're suppose grow and learn to become basketball stars. You have to think how much better the league would be in a competition level if draft picks could make an impact as soon as they come in like they used too 20 years+ ago.
Franchise changers can still be made. But it takes longer to do so in most cases.
haughty moss
Well yeah every guy isn’t gonna make an immediate impact but it hardly matters. Youth is valued. It’s from a talent development perspective.
Thinking an elite guy who is pro ready should stay in school longer is silly lol get the reps in now.
dim kettle
Except, again. Most times then not, They're not ready to play in the pros. Just look at someone like Markelle Fultz. He's just starting to learn to be a pro star. If anything, these players should be in the G league learning then. And baseball and hockey you don't see teams throwing top picks into the sharks when they're drafted.
I think it just now. When you said they should get reps now just kinda brings up how much NBA organizations are very impatient with their depth. Which is on them.
haughty moss
That’s just how the game is. It’s a unique bball system anyway. Other countries don’t even use it. Reality is younger guys are viewed as having higher ceilings. Every guy under 20 doesn’t have to be a superstar to justify the one and done rule. Besides, they have the transitional rookie program for a reason anyway.
That’s why they should have it in place where guys can return to college even after signing with an agent. It needs some tuning up.
Least in the NBA’s case.
haughty moss
Would be pretty dope.
pallid gyro
With Porzingis still there they could take the lakers even
haughty moss
Not pretty would be great actually lol
they made some nice picks on draft night too
pallid gyro
Yeah and the trade for Richardson helps improve the defense a lot
haughty moss
yep agreed can help with tougher matchups
smart trade philly needed shooting anyway
smoky fable
Bucks made moves that’d probably suggest otherwise
pallid gyro
I mean they got holiday that helps but they lost Bodgan which would of helped even more
And the east only got stronger this year
dim kettle
Yeah, Harden will probably disappear again come playoff time.
smoky fable
Harden doesn’t do anything
My thoughts mirror Zach Lowe
Do something in the playoffs
And that fit with the nets won’t work
dim kettle
Let me find Playoff James Harden...
smoky fable
Don’t showboat in a blowout against Charlotte when you play poorly in the post season
Feel bad for Westbrook though. Even though I recognize his deficiencies as a player in regards to shooting, I admire his aggressive style.
dim kettle
I always believe Russ plays for stats then the good for his team.
smoky fable
I would believe that, if he didn’t try to fix his shooting then.
Cause his stats in that department are awful
rustic ore
I think Russ has a bad attitude, so I’m not gonna lose any sleep if he never seals the deal and wins a chip
smoky fable
That’s fair
dim kettle
Honestly, I don't lose sleep for a lot players in this league if none of them win anything. That's what happens when more times then not the star player gives the fanbase the middle finger and goes ring chasing.
Also, let me see if the Magic have done anything yet.
Shit.
rustic ore
Think the NBA is making a mistake by starting up their next season next month
I’m mean it’s been what, like less than 2 months since the Finals?
dim kettle
I feel bad for the rooks. They don't even get a summer league to play in to prepare. I think
Also. Hockey starts like a few weeks later after the NBA.
dim kettle
And there won't be any political drama happening in the NBA this season.
Any political drama
pallid gyro
Yeah I remember what Montrezl Harrell said to Luka lmao
haughty moss
That was so overblown lmaoo
smoky fable
Ernie Johnson saying it made me laugh
dim kettle
Stephen A "He's european, not white"
haughty moss
Slow news day that time
dim kettle
One of the funniest, yet saddest things Stephen A Smith said.
smoky fable
They work that man consistently. Although he gets paid a lot of money for it
smoky fable
I don’t know. Don’t really pay attention to either.
haughty moss
Max but stephen a is hella entertaining
Cowboys slander >>>>
He got all the memes
dim kettle
I'm surprised anybody can take those 2 seriously. I usually watch them for comedy.
honest umbra
i love comedy
dim kettle
HOW DO YOU DO THAAAATTT??? HOW DO YOU DO THAT???!!!
haughty moss
it’s good stuff
haughty moss
He can’t play!
dim kettle
Stephen A's rants on the Knicks are so similar to my tirades on my Bucs. It's so funny.
haughty moss
He been thru it
dim kettle
"The last time the Knicks win a championship I was 5 years old,
Ladies and gentlemen I'm 51!"
smoky fable
That miss in Zion in the lottery was pretty brutal, not going to lie
Along with the free agency stuff
pallid gyro
Yeah Stephen A is hilarious when it comes to the Knicks and the Cowboys
dim kettle
Time for a barrel full of laughs. Everybody, LAUGH AT THE KNICKS
I loved it when Stephen A told a caller to go to hell.
pallid gyro
I remember when Shaq called Stephen A pretending to be a Cowboys fan named Tex Johnson
haughty moss
when the cowboys lose we get blessed
smoky fable
Always tune in to see Cameron Magruder, Urinating tree with their reactions.
Edp was funny as well.
pallid gyro
Haha yeah
EDP cracks me
Can’t imagine all his reactions since Carson Wentz is ass
I get the Eagles have bad coaching and a lot of injuries but people make to many excuses for Wentz
He is just straight ass right now
pallid gyro
Yeah I mean that first pick he threw against the browns has horrible
dim kettle
You can blame Wentz for a lot of the shit the Eagles have been through this season. But he also carried them too. If anything, Howie Roseman needs to go. He's been very bad at drafting as of late.
smoky fable
The fact that they almost lost to Ben denucci led cowboys was rough
Cause Ben denucci was atrocious
pallid gyro
Yeah the Eagles are just a shit show like the rest of the NFC east
dim kettle
The Eagles need a WR so badly. What does Roseman do instead. Draft Jalen Hurts. Because they're stupid.
smoky fable
Don’t know if there any wide receivers worth that pick.
Think he should have been more aggressive in trading up though.
I don’t know if Mims would be worth it for them.
They missed out on Lamb.
dim kettle
People have been shitting on Wentz and he has a turnover problem. But, Eagle fans need to be real here. He's going through Andrew Luck simulator. It's hard to be good when you're getting killed on every play and your receivers keep dropping them.
pallid gyro
Yeah that catch by Lamb against the Vikings was crazy
smoky fable
But he’s made bone headed plays though. Even with the talent being poor, he’s making bad decisions.
It was. Jefferson was a monster for the vikings as well.
That LSU team was just stacked in general.
pallid gyro
Yeah and now they suck lmao
dim kettle
He's making bad decisions because he has been getting killed physically and mentally the last 3 seasons. But like I said, he has a turnover problem. That's for sure.
pallid gyro
LSU last year was just a one year wonder but they’ve been good before too
dim kettle
Also, what's a running game in Philly?
smoky fable
Miles Saunders isn’t bad
Along with Boston giant killer Scott
That super bowl run was a worthwhile price to pay though.
dim kettle
I definitely think Doug Pederson is the first to go off that SB team.
dim kettle
He's' the scapegoat. Always the damn HC.
Even though their offense is ranked 12th with everyone injured.
IDK how Howie Roseman has survived all these years though. He should've been gone when he was working with Kelly.
pallid gyro
Yeah
smoky fable
Eh, kelly was more in control of the roster. Similar to Reid.
He was responsible for players like demarco Murray
And Sam Bradford
And keeping Riley Cooper and trading lesean McCoy
pallid gyro
Is Kelly still coaching UCLA ?
smoky fable
Yeah
dim kettle
I'm surprised that clown can still get a job even in the college world. Then again, Louisville allowed Bobby Petrino to coach.
pallid gyro
Speaking of college did anyone watch the OSU Indiana game?
Really wanted Indiana to win it was a great game
smoky fable
Is fields qb1?
dim kettle
Yes. And was making turnovers.
pallid gyro
Haha yeah it was a great game
Indiana definitely impressed me
Top 10 worthy for sure
dim kettle
The only thing I've really enjoyed so far this year is seeing Michigan collapse.
smoky fable
that’s funny to see since I don’t see trask being drafted before four qbs
Lawrence, fields, Zach wilson, and lance
dim kettle
Kyle Trask seems like a guy Elway would draft. He likes his 6'5 white QBs.
dim kettle
QBs today are disposable. Off to the next trend.
pallid gyro
Yeah I think Trask is the heisman favorite but only because of his offense and the teams they play
He’s definitely not the best qb in the class
He just has it set up for him pretty well
proud coyote
I think I like Mac Jones more than Trask
dim kettle
The Gators are a team that no matter how good they look. I'm waiting for them to fall short.
smoky fable
Alabama will crush them
dim kettle
And I live in Florida. So I know a lot of Gator fans who are just jaded since the Tebow days.
pallid gyro
Mac Jones is a stud but when they dropped 63 on Kentucky he surprisingly only had 2 TD’s and an interception
But he’s definitely 2nd for me
Heisman wise
Sucks Jaylen Waddle got hurt for the year
smoky fable
Smith is a monster as well
pallid gyro
Yeah Smith is a beast
proud coyote
najee harris is real good
smoky fable
Might have been the best receiver out of the ones that Bama has produced
pallid gyro
Yeah definitely Najee has been balling
smoky fable
Ruggs, Jeudy, waddle,
dim kettle
It's hard to judge any QB that comes from Alabama, even Tua. Because Nick Saban offense is just that good.
smoky fable
Their defense has been a bit weak though, outside of their corner surtain
smoky fable
Corner class is good
pallid gyro
It’s gonna be sad seeing Lawrence go to the Jets
smoky fable
Farley, surtain, horn, wade (but he’s been a mixed bag)
dim kettle
It's gonna be sad seeing Fields in a Jags uni.
smoky fable
I hope he doesn’t end up there
dim kettle
Fields is either gonna be a Jags or the Washington <redirected> he's fucked.
smoky fable
I don’t think Rivera would want a rookie QB
dim kettle
If I'm Dak after being injured the way he did. And saw what shit happens to QBs at Fedex Field. I wouldn't go there even if you threw 40 million per year.
pallid gyro
Yeah
I feel bad for Dak he was balling and Jerry just cares to much about his ego
He got screwed over
dim kettle
I wonder if SF will throw money at him.
smoky fable
Think they’ll try to get Zach Wilson or try to trade for a qb like Stafford. Ryan might be too expensive for them
proud coyote
dak is too much money for us
we have to sign the entire secondary + extend fred warner
with shrinking cap we'd never be able to
smoky fable
Think they made a mistake in paying armstead and not Buckner. Armstead was cheaper, but Buckner was the better player.
dim kettle
Yeah, the football gods went after the 9ers this year. Because Jed York doesn't deserve nice things.
smoky fable
MetLife field was rough on them
dim kettle
DerpLife*
proud coyote
Think they made a mistake in paying armstead and not Buckner. Armstead was chea...
I mean, we got the 13th pick out of it as well
no question buckner is better but we wouldn't get that return
and armstead is no slouch, dude is elite in run D
Kinlaw is looking better and better as the season goes on
smoky fable
Can kinlaw replace that production?
proud coyote
even if he gets to 75% of buckner, it'll have been worth it
Bosa will only get better as well
and yeah, I do think Kinlaw can
like I said he's been raw this year but in recent weeks has looked quite good
smoky fable
He was already elite, so that helps. Just needs to stay healthy
proud coyote
yep... such a shame that he got injured this year
not to say we'd be in the playoffs if he wasn't injured, but just for his development I'm real sad he's missing out
smoky fable
Need a boost to their receiving core as well. Need to fill the gap that Saunders left
proud coyote
Aiyuk is that
dude has been real good
Aiyuk/Deebo/Kittle firing on all cylinders is enough, we'll probably pick WR in the 3rd/4th though
Kendrick Bourne is solid
smoky fable
I know your running back situation is fine though, that’s for sure
And I’m pretty familiar with Aiyuk, so it makes sense he’s balling out.
proud coyote
doesn't really matter who we have at RB as long as we have SOMEONE
the issue is having someone though lmao
this doesn't show jeff wilson or hasty on IR as well
proud coyote
RB was like the one position we didn't need to draft this year
then everyone went and got injured
6th string RB is some crazy shit
pallid gyro
What do you guys think of Kyler Murray?
honest umbra
He’s really, really good
sweet tree
rip maradona
dim ledge
Yeah I just saw
Fuck man
Definitely one of the best. My dad says he was one of those players that "did something" every single game he played
wheat wyvern
celest zephyr
Just saw the news
It was pretty clear he’d never reach old age, but still a big RIP
Great player
dim ledge
Coke and booze definitely ravaged his body, that's without doubt
Kobe and Maradona in the same year...fucks sake
Ray Clemence from Liverpool only a week or two ago too
burnt cedar
If you haven’t seen it check out his documentary https://twitter.com/asifkapadia/status/1331639600578752517?s=21
It makes you see him in a different light
Best character in footballer ever
dim ledge
His funeral procession in Argentina is going to be sad as fuck to watch. Man's a hero
hidden rampart
oh man thats really sad he passed away
dim ledge
Yeah. He had been in fairly poor health in the past year, maybe two
I think less than a month ago he was out of the hospital for a brain aneurysm
Like I said before. Bad coke/booze habit
slow ravine
wild basalt
Rip Diego
bitter rover
Rip
dull sedge
pallid gyro
Yeah 2020 is so ass
hidden rampart
garbage year
pallid gyro
Honestly when was the last time had a year as bad as 2020
unborn sandal
Watching ESPN Latam which is mostly Argentine staff. Journalists crying on camera
UCL matches about to be played in 5 and doesn't even feel like that
dim ledge
Expected. Maradona was one of those few who crossed the line of player to hero of the people
Even with his vices
unborn sandal
minute of silence now before Olympiacos - Man City
dim ledge
Two teams I hate
unborn sandal
geez, I didn't even like his persona and I'm devastated
unborn sandal
Two teams I hate
wait, I guess why people hate City but why Olympiacos?
dim ledge
Biggest and richest team in Greece which means they dominate the league
tribal crypt
RIP MARADONA 😔
dim ledge
Big rivalry with my dad's team and subsequently my team lol
unborn sandal
Big rivalry with my dad's team and subsequently my team lol
ah you're Greek? For some reason I forget Greece is part of the Balkans
burnt cedar
unborn sandal
of course, Kobe grew up in Italy as Maradona was at his peak
burnt cedar
Twitter
hidden rampart
dim kettle
Would I be lying if I said I didn't know who Maradona was till now? Either way, RIP to another legend in 2020.
silk notch
RIP how did maradona die?
I know he had a surgery recently but they said it was succesful
dim ledge
cardiac arrest
unborn sandal
he suffered a stroke weeks ago and got surgery for that. He was recovering at home but today he destabilized and had a cardiac arrest
wild basalt
Freak coincidence that George Best also died on this day 15 years ago due to something similar
dim ledge
Another goated player
unborn sandal
I mean, different disease, but also a consequence of a chaotic lifestyle
unborn sandal
If you mean Roy Keane, Irish aren't considered Brits I think. Northern Irish (Best) are, but not Irish
so I'd replace him with Giggs in that case
or Ian Rush
dim ledge
Rush deserves it yeah
but I mean British isles
which includes Ireland but
I get you
TSIMIKAS STARTING 
fucks sake give minamino a chance
tribal crypt
at the age of 60 he passed away first before pele 😭 😔
static aurora
smoky fable
He’s a conflicting person
silk notch
No he isnt he the goat
rustic ore
Big Oof for Colts fans https://mobile.twitter.com/Colts/status/1331694416898166792
And right before they have to play the Titans
dim kettle
Dallas. Watch it be like 12-9 just to annoy football fans.
pallid gyro
Honestly I would not be shocked
I was looking forward to watch the Steelers game especially since the Ravens are practically the only decent team they have to play the rest of the year
rustic mountain
rustic ore
Texans Lions and DC Cowboys
Steelers Ravens got moved to Sunday because of Covid concerns with Baltimore
So NBC is gonna have 2 games on Sunday
Mike Tirico hopefully will call one of them 
So Sunday is gonna be BAL@PIT, LAC@BUF, TEN@IND, CAR@MIN, CLE@JAX, NYG@CIN, ARI@NE, MIA@NYJ, LV@ATL, NO@DEN, SF@LAR, KC@TB, CHI@GB for SNF, and the for MNF it’s SEA@PHI
rustic ore
Think Gilmore will be back?
rustic ore
I don’t think it’s as much the Texans as it is the weird NFL tradition of always giving the Lions a Thanksgiving game
And it just so happened that the Texans were their opponents for this week
smoky fable
lions and cowboys are always a tradition
dim kettle
The NFL loves seeing the Lions get stuffed on Thanksgiving. What more can you say?
smoky fable
But I don't know why the schedule makers chose the Texans. They could have chosen any other team in the AFC south.
rustic ore
Tbf I don’t think anyone quite expected they would be THIS shit without Hopkins
rustic ore
I mean he was without a doubt, but I don’t know many people who honestly expected Houston to be as hilariously bad as they have been just because they treaded away a star receiver
dim kettle
The Lions always face a team from the AFC South it seems. Remember in 08 when Chris Johnson used conqueror's haki to destroy the Lions?
smoky fable
CJ2k
rustic ore
Damn shame his career fell off, for a few years he was right there with AP as the best RB in the game
dim kettle
Coaching screwed CJ2K long term. Jeff Fisher knew how to use him and once he was gone so was Johnson's stats.
smoky fable
that's odd to hear. Used to seeing him utterly fail with qbs other than McNair
dim kettle
He knew how to use runningbacks Eddie George, Chris Johnson. I know, it's weird.
rustic ore
Still had a heck of a career though. Nearly 10k career rushing yards and averaged 4.5 YPC
smoky fable
Remember his final year: I won't go 7-9 or 8-8.
rustic ore
rustic ore
Jeff Fisher is the undisputed king of 7-9
dim kettle
Pretty much a big reason why St Louis doesn't have a football team now. I call it self sabotage.
rustic ore
Dude is tied for the most career losses by a HC in NFL history for a very good reason
Twitter
dim kettle
Mr 2013 himself.
rustic ore
UNLEASH THE GIRAFFE!
smoky fable
I hope he wins this game
dim kettle
The Browns losing to the Jags would be the Browns thing to do.
rustic ore
Jags potentially screwing themselves out of Justin Fields would be a sight to behold
dim kettle
B-But, the Jags are starting a QB that Bucs fans had delusional hope for after Freeman fucked off.
dim kettle
I would love to see Philly win it so I can see Eagle fans get angry that Wentz somehow is playing in another postseason.
rustic ore
Still amazes me that the Cowboys, Football Team, and Giants are currently projected to pick 4, 5, and 7 respectively and are still only a half game out from 1st place in their division 
dim kettle
If this was 20 years ago, The Cardinals would have won the division already.
I think the NFL wishes they were still in the NFC East.
proud coyote
Damn, the Steelers would have already clinched the NFC East
dim kettle
Baseball's Vagabond.
dry surge
rustic ore
I feel like if a team like the Steelers was in the NFCE this year the memes would just write themselves
dry surge
i cry everytime i watch this
dry surge
yeah there are a few position players that throw knuckle balls but yeah
proud coyote
I’ll check that podcast out later, always love seeing player interviews
dry surge
funny guy, wholesome, loved seeing him interact with the young pitchers on the yankees this past year
azure seal
Cabe🍍😁#4711 was banned!
smoky fable
you want Zach Wilson? @proud coyote
proud coyote
I flip flop on him
smoky fable
I think he's better than Lance
proud coyote
He throws these passes that make me just cringe for his receivers’ safety
I definitely prefer him to Lance
Lance is way too raw for what we need atm
I’d be happy with Wilson but... I’d rather have Aaron Rodgers lol
smoky fable
dreaming is free
proud coyote
Wouldn’t that be sweet
And idk if it’s fixable man, it seems like an arm strength issue
He can’t zip it quite as fast as needed in a shanahan offense
smoky fable
really, that's the first time I've heard of an arm strength issue.
I see people say that's more of a strength
rustic ore
I mean since it seems Rodgers is being pushed out I’d imagine with him being a Cali boy as well as growing up a 49ers fan SF would be a prime location for him
Should GB be stupid enough to trade/cut him that is
smoky fable
They aren't that stupid
proud coyote
It’s mostly a velocity issue
rustic ore
Or I suppose it would only be stupid if Love doesn’t develop enough to earn the starting job over Rodgers
proud coyote
And it’s not really an issue, just a cap to what he would be able to do in our offense
rustic ore
Juba what are your thoughts on Kyle Trask?
As a UF fan myself I don’t think he has a particularly high ceiling but I feel like his floor is quite good
proud coyote
I think he’s good
smoky fable
Maybe the Niners could ask for Watson lol
proud coyote
Seems like a Broncos QB
But... I don’t want us to pick him
And the Texans owe us Watson after screwing us over putting Hopkins in our division lol
Trask is super raw still
And while he showed improvement this year I wanted to see more
smoky fable
you follow Kyle Posey Juba? If you have a twitter.
He's a pretty smart guy covering the Niners
rustic ore
I think he really improved from last year but I still kinda view him as a Cousins/Keenum kinda guy. Good enough to stick around in the league for the long time but as of now I don’t see him as a true franchise QB prospect
smoky fable
Grant Cohn
smoky fable
he's awful with the warriors kawakami
proud coyote
Maiocco is alright
rustic ore
Would love to be proven wrong though cause I can’t remember the last UF QB who was any good in the pros
proud coyote
I don’t like em, lol
smoky fable
that's good to know
proud coyote
I’d say I only really hate one team
smoky fable
cowboys?
proud coyote
Yep
smoky fable
I figured
I'm surprised I haven't seen a cowboys fan. Heck, even a seahawks fan here
or even a steelers fan
smoky fable
one piece fans from florida. makes a lot of sense.
proud coyote
Who do you pull for?
smoky fable
another team in the nfc west
rustic ore
Gonna guess Arizona?
proud coyote
Don’t say the cards
smoky fable
yeah
rustic ore
smoky fable
you can laugh, but they're progressing
proud coyote
I have no reason to laugh lol
smoky fable
really, why is that
proud coyote
You guys are a fun team to watch
smoky fable
the niners swept them last year
proud coyote
Because Kyler fucking Murray pisses me off to no end
Make no mistake, those two wins were the hardest of the year
rustic ore
Kyler is like young Russ
smoky fable
we'll see.
proud coyote
We have TWO russ in our division now
rustic ore
If he really figures it out he’s gonna be a pain in the ass to play against just like Russ is
proud coyote
Well, he’s only in his second year
And it seems teams aren’t able to figure him out as he’s just that athletic and fast
smoky fable
nah, they've started to figure him out a bit
Flores and the Dolphins set up a blueprint
bracket hopkins and try to let the other receivers and tight ends beat you.
smoky fable
games against carolina and seattle (he was hurt) showed his deficiencies
rustic ore
Kinda feel like guys like Russ, Watson, Mahomes, Allen, and Kyler are gonna be the blueprint for QBs going forward. Not necessarily 1 body type but kinda similar play styles, just being able to extend plays and use your athleticism when plays break down
smoky fable
yeah mobile qbs are the way the league is progressing
no more statuesque pocket passers
proud coyote
Thing is, no one expects sophomore QBs to really perform
But he’s improved and is improving
smoky fable
I mean Mahomes technically did
rustic ore
But that also means you’re gonna need better athletes on the O-lines, which might involves going with shorter, stouter guys
smoky fable
He sat first year
proud coyote
Mahomes is an anomaly in every sense of the word lol
smoky fable
that's true
proud coyote
Yep, and Ryan is a fringe top 10 guy
smoky fable
Kyle and Mcvay made Washington good as well with that offense
rustic ore
I’m not looking forward to Mahomes ripping my Bucs a new one on Sunday 
proud coyote
I just hope York doesn’t do something boneheaded again
And we stick with Kyle for as long as he’s needed
smoky fable
yeah, he's a top tier coach
proud coyote
Really wonder what the hell the Saints are gonna do this offseason
They’re pretty fucked cap wise
smoky fable
they're in cap hell
with the eagles
rebuilding time for them
restructure and cuts coming
proud coyote
Rebuild and ride out the Taysom wave
proud coyote
I don’t either, but Payton probably wants to just see
Will play him the rest of the year
rustic ore
I just want the Saints to be bad again
smoky fable
don't know what Payton will do in the future.
They'll be in mediocrity
I think the Panthers are on the up and up
rustic ore
Hope so, cause their fans are kinda cancer
Same, I hate to admit it but I think Rhule is the right guy for that team
smoky fable
smart coach, even at Baylor
rustic ore
Brady is gonna get a HC job soon
proud coyote
Yeah buc, if not this year next year
rustic ore
He’s riding the hype from LSU
smoky fable
young offensive minds are vogue though
rustic ore
And the Panthers are doing half decent on O with their crew