If Atlanta upsets Buffalo today, then New England is in first place
#sports
silk pine
he also got his dad to go with him who was our O line coach and one of the best o line coaches in the league
dim kettle
That's like a monkey's paw wish.
rustic mountain
And I don't believe in Allen until he actually does it
hasty mesa
At least the Giants are probably in the top 20 in the NFL and not bottom 5
rustic ore
Just found out Vegas odds have had Mahomes jump Baker in the MVP betting 
Haters
Allen still number 1 atm for some reason
dim kettle
Just found out Vegas odds have had Mahomes jump Baker in the MVP betting <:Crydo...
It's the Bucs. They always forget about us.
hasty mesa
I don’t know if I asked you @dim kettle what’s your take on Dart these first 3 starts? Objectively
fleet orbit
At least the Giants are probably in the top 20 in the NFL and not bottom 5
idk about top 20 but giants are not a bottom 5 team
browns dolphins titans jets saints
dim kettle
I don’t know if I asked you <@211605687136944128> what’s your take on Dart these...
Pretty decent. I'd say better than what Danny Dimes was doing the last 2 years there.
fleet orbit
saints have definitely been competitive
rattler might have a shot at keeping his job
dim kettle
Most bad teams in history played competitive until the games didn't matter.
hasty mesa
1 game back from division
rustic ore
1 game back from division
Question, do you want the Giants to do well enough to keep Daboll or are you done with him?
dim kettle
The 2009 Rams didn't lose every game by 20 or more points.
rustic mountain
This game is so annoying lol
Tbf we coulda dropped the game too thanks to the literal worst reffing Ive seen in years
fleet orbit
what’s crazy to think is the dolphins were a few plays away from being 4-2
they were right there with the pats panthers and chargers
hasty mesa
Question, do you want the Giants to do well enough to keep Daboll or are you don...
The current pros of Daboll outweigh the cons so idc if Dart saves his job
rustic ore
Fair
rustic mountain
The league is a lot more muddled than it ever has been
rustic ore
what’s crazy to think is the dolphins were a few plays away from being 4-2
I'll do you one better, before the game yesterday the Bucs were a few plays away from entering that game against SF 0-5 
dim kettle
The Giants beat the Chargers and Eagles. But... it just feels like Bowles with the Jets the last year with Darnold. Like, how much of that will matter.
fleet orbit
and that’s okay! this isn’t alabama against sam houston state this is the nfl
the jets somehow been trash this whole time , consistent as fuck
dim kettle
We can talk about how the Giants beat the Eagles on TNF, but we can also talk about how they lost to the fucking Saints and in a bad teams find ways to lose games bad.
fleet orbit
bills were down 14 to the ravens , yes i can understand context
rustic mountain
We can talk about how the Giants beat the Eagles on TNF, but we can also talk ab...
I think that Eagles game, and this is speculation, is getting blown up hard
I want to see how the Giants respond in the next game
fleet orbit
i still would rather be a giants fan than some of these franchises whose locker rooms are imploding
rustic mountain
They played an Eagles team who just played an extremely draining Broncos game and turn around on Thursday and have to play a division rival
I do think the Giants had good signs
fleet orbit
i kinda hate thursday games
dim kettle
On one hand, yeah. But at the same time, you're not competing for a title either way.
hasty mesa
The Giants beat the Chargers and Eagles. But... it just feels like Bowles with t...
Nah it feels a little different
rustic ore
i kinda hate thursday games
We all do 
rustic mountain
But I think pumping the brakes a bit is needed
fleet orbit
aaron rodgers and joe flacco is gonna put 20 year olds to bed at old people time
hasty mesa
I think it’s overblown at this point cuz prime time but it’s not nothing
hasty mesa
You have to understand where the Giants have been especially against the Eagles and especially in Primetime situations
And how we won
rustic mountain
But I think you caught the Eagles at a great time
hasty mesa
We bullied them
fleet orbit
eli struggled a lot with the eagles
hasty mesa
You also need to consider our roster
Can you name our receivers starting in that game before the game
fleet orbit
idk why , but i wish the giants well
dim kettle
A bad Dolphins or Jets team once in a while would beat NE in primetime.
rustic mountain
I want to see the Giants put together more consistent wins and games before I do any swearing in franchise guys and all that
hasty mesa
You know exactly who the Eagle offensive players are
fleet orbit
A bad Dolphins or Jets team once in a while would beat NE in primetime.
dolphins actually had some nice wins against brady every so often
hasty mesa
You know Giants D by heart sure
rustic mountain
That and Daboll clearly trying to save his job no matter how many brain cells Dart has left
hasty mesa
But Jaxson Dart led McDonald’s workers to a primetime win
hasty mesa
I want to see the Giants put together more consistent wins and games before I do...
Same
dim kettle
I see it like this. I'd do less yapping about how things are different now, and wait until near the end of the season to do the yapping.
hasty mesa
Beat the Broncos
hasty mesa
I see it like this. I'd do less yapping about how things are different now, and ...
Fair and I ageee
fleet orbit
at the end of the day the giants have a rookie contract qb , that’s a good thing if they do it wisely !
amber grove
First time since September 28th
rustic mountain
Cool to be hype, wait on running with narratives
fleet orbit
First time since September 28th
i’m sure you have missed your team
i fucking missed the bears
we love our teams even when we hate them
hasty mesa
Next step for Dart is to win back to back
And win on the road
He has yet to do that
rustic mountain
I missed pats football. Watching these mfers fumble 1000000 times to Pittsburgh and whatever that vegas game was sucked
But
I did miss em
That Pitt game we could cruised to a win, I swear Tomlin Magic for mediocre but winning seasons just is eternal
fleet orbit
the reason i’m so amped for tonight is say the bears can find a win and be 3-2 , than perhaps the bears can try and make something out of this season
it’s not like the wildcard race is that insane
fleet orbit
That Pitt game we could cruised to a win, I swear Tomlin Magic for mediocre but ...
i don’t like the guy but let’s give credit , rodgers is playing decent football
rustic mountain
He didn't even do anything against us to warrant the win
Like sure maybe now he is
But against us he was pedestrian
fleet orbit
that’s fair, ultimately at least the pats have stacked some wins
dim kettle
The Steelers are the most hollow winning team in the sport.
fleet orbit
the steelers will win the north and than 1st round exit
rustic mountain
that’s fair, ultimately at least the pats have stacked some wins
Yes, and tbf this is a progress year and we have Drake
fleet orbit
i just saw the injury report and this is the first time this season i don’t feel so bad
dim kettle
Yes, and tbf this is a progress year and we have Drake
Off topic, but it might be a little bit easier for the Leafs in the Atlantic. The Bolts look bad.
rustic mountain
Off topic, but it might be a little bit easier for the Leafs in the Atlantic. Th...
Maybe. But winning the Atlantic is less what I am worried about. Tired of getting in the playoffs and just Leafing it up
I am HOPING the new depth pieces prove worth a damn
That and not having a winger who disappears into the ethereal realm anytime the post season starts
rustic mountain
It was a pitching duel we couldn't win
rustic mountain
Mariners have one of the best pitching crews in the league
dim kettle
Maybe. But winning the Atlantic is less what I am worried about. Tired of gettin...
I'm not there yet fully. But at some point many people need to start having the Jon Cooper talk. Because these players are not playing like cup contenders.
rustic mountain
And a 5 star catcher in Raleigh
rustic mountain
I'm not there yet fully. But at some point many people need to start having the ...
It'll be a dark day in Tampa
But I get it
plush jungle
going to be tough sledding going forwards
rustic mountain
Beyond so
plush jungle
ah well if you want to win it all its hard to expect not to face the best
rustic mountain
That's my view
dim kettle
In hockey it's mostly a player issue first sport. But Jon Cooper has been with the team since I was entering high school. Something is not working.
rustic mountain
Plus the Mariners are my second team and hometown boys so
If the Jays cant do it
Then I am cheering for them
plush jungle
I'm on the no Dodgers wagon
rustic mountain
In hockey it's mostly a player issue first sport. But Jon Cooper has been with t...
Maybe he needs to evolve?
plush jungle
wouldn't mind the mariners though
dim kettle
Maybe he needs to evolve?
It's like what's happening with the Ravens rn. It's not saying the HC is bad, it's that if he's even the right guy for the team rn
plush jungle
hitting and goal scoring sigh why do the teams I root for have the same issue
rustic mountain
Being in Seattle and seeing the passion for the M's makes me glad for people. I've talked to Mariners fans and everyone Ive talked to has been really cool and wished the other luck
rustic mountain
It's like what's happening with the Ravens rn. It's not saying the HC is bad, it...
You could be on to something then
plush jungle
I wouldnr mind Cooper being the leafs coach
I reckon he could win a ring with the leafs
dim kettle
I asked this question hypothetically in the Bolts Discord server the other day and all I got was "I don't believe it's a leadership issue. It's the players, they have less drive and hunger" And I'm losing my mind a little at that because isn't that part of being a HC in the National Hockey League?
rustic mountain
I haven't seen anything from Berube that makes me super ecstatic
plush jungle
it is
rustic mountain
Have been cool with Treliving tho
dim kettle
With Treliving. You're gonna get a roller coaster. He'll make a few smart moves and then try to copy the Hurricanes for some reason and then make some of the worst trades you'll ever see.
plush jungle
what is that gif lol
plush jungle
okay
rustic mountain
Turn over a new "leaf"
hasty mesa
By the way going off of odds if the season ended today Joe Schoen would’ve drafted the DROY and OROY
rustic mountain
Just a joke man no worries
rustic mountain
🙏
dim kettle
Well at the very least he did that for you
Treliving is only getting a break rn with the Leafs because he hasn't done a rebuild yet.
plush jungle
with Matthews and nylander around that won't happen for a while
dim kettle
With NHL GMs. Trades seem random and insignificant at the time, that turn into major Ls for the GM afterward.
rustic mountain
Maybe but for now things seem fine
Marner is the only significant loss and that dude was gone with or without brad
Tbh he shoulda been gone when we had Kyle Dubas
dim kettle
In the next few years, if you start noticing thing like 'Hey, that guy was with the Leafs and is playing great, and we got nothing from it' that's when you know it's a Treliving run team.
Hockey is like baseball with moves, it takes years of running a team to notice things are going right or wrong.
dim kettle
I can only say good luck.
rustic mountain
No use worrying about a sky that may not fall
dim kettle
I think for most FOs it's like that. Unless you're Buffalo where you know what the outcome will be.
rustic mountain
Sabres are a sad sort
dim kettle
I've been a fan of the Lightning since 2003. I've seen less GM hires as a fan than the Sabres in 15 years.
plush jungle
that's the year I was born
rustic ore
https://x.com/sfdata9ers/status/1977779182881898735 @proud coyote @dim ledge @plush jungle Holy crap
X
plush jungle
sabres are indeed just depressing
rustic ore
I was not aware of this
plush jungle
I don't know how much longer the niners have with Lynch
dim kettle
https://x.com/sfdata9ers/status/1977779182881898735 <@134857202446893056> <@2165...
They gotten some good pieces with trades and signings.
plush jungle
shanahan I think stays but Lynch eh
dim kettle
Lynch is a perfect example of a good GM with some misses over the years.
vestal axle
https://x.com/sfdata9ers/status/1977779182881898735 <@134857202446893056> <@2165...
1st someone tell me how did chief bocome so ass all of a sudden
plush jungle
chiefs are 3-3 and just beat the lions by double digits
I dislike them but they are fine
vestal axle
they're sitting 3rd in their grp
earlier they were like the default winner of their conference
not just grp
rustic ore
It's a slow start for sure but they're getting healthy and they get Rice back from suspension next week
plush jungle
Only a game back
rustic ore
They'll be fine
vestal axle
It's a slow start for sure but they're getting healthy and they get Rice back fr...
rice is WR??
plush jungle
I can't expect the chargers to not derp it up
vestal axle
iirc tyreek hill contract is running out ri8?
rustic ore
I apologize I'm confused what you're upset about
plush jungle
hill has been long gone
vestal axle
any chances they'll bring back their old player
rustic ore
What does grp stand for?
plush jungle
nah I doubt it
dim kettle
The Chiefs the last few years just knew how to win games ugly or not. Mahomes just hasn't been the same guy he was for many years.
plush jungle
What does grp stand for?
group
vestal axle
What does grp stand for?
the 4 teams they play... i don't remember the term sadly
plush jungle
division really
proud coyote
https://x.com/sfdata9ers/status/1977779182881898735 <@134857202446893056> <@2165...
This is both us signing and trading for scheme fit players and drafting guys who are scheme fits for specifically our system but have traits that get them marked down on other boards. EG our RT Mckivitz who has short stubby arms but is quick and has the proper balance to play for us
vestal axle
yeah division
rustic ore
the 4 teams they play... i don't remember the term sadly
Ah, the AFCW
Yeah they'll be fine imo
Chargers are getting banged up, Raiders are trash. Broncos are a coin flip but I'd still take KC over them
Should still easily win their division
plush jungle
doesn't help that the chargers lost to the giants and commanders
dim kettle
You got to trust the Chiefs because of their track record.
vestal axle
looks like kelce is currently busy with something else 👀
fleet orbit
tyreek hills future is interesting
plush jungle
mariners win and Byron being below the cutline by 15. brutal sports day
oh and the niners lost
vestal axle
tyreek hills future is interesting
is he washed???
proud coyote
is he washed???
He wasn’t really but he’s now going to be
fleet orbit
is he washed???
i think until i see him on his next team i can’t say
proud coyote
And less washed, more hobbled permanently
plush jungle
what injury did he pick up
dim kettle
I find it crazy that the Chiefs have been very known for the high power offense and the two major contenders the Bolts and Broncos answer to this is by doing the exact opposite. And wonder why they lose by 2 points to the Chiefs instead of 7
vestal axle
i think until i see him on his next team i can’t say
his career went downhill after the miami move right???
fleet orbit
as far as being a bonafide best wr in the nfl candidate yeah but i think he could still be a starter
proud coyote
what injury did he pick up
Tore like several ligaments in his knee and dislocated it
fleet orbit
he was dumb for leaving mahomes
plush jungle
yikes
proud coyote
his career went downhill after the miami move right???
Not really, he had two great years there
plush jungle
even for a dirt bag like him I gotta feel bad
dim kettle
The Broncos are defense first team. And the Chargers play a chicken shit offense that often takes control out of Herbert's hand and gives it to the RB.
proud coyote
Then last year was a mess for them all around, as is this year
And he got nick chubb’d
plush jungle
oh so that's why chubb is just mid now
vestal axle
I don't follow NFL much since its an american sports. But I've a general interest in sports and I just found the game interesting so I liked it
proud coyote
Like honestly, he had the two best years of his career in Miami
proud coyote
oh so that's why chubb is just mid now
Chubb’s injury was gruesome
dim kettle
Chubb's prime is basically over.
fleet orbit
I don't follow NFL much since its an american sports. But I've a general interes...
i understand this ! i swear even the masters i’ve tried to watch out of curiousity
rustic ore
1st someone tell me how did chief bocome so ass all of a sudden
So now that I understand a bit better I'll try my best to explain. Rice being their #1 WR and target being out hurt them immensely out the gate, 3 plays in their week 1 game against the Chargers they lost their other starting WR in Worthy to a dislocated shoulder, and considering they were going to heavily rely on him that day for their gameplan it threw their plans into whack, then the next week they got controlled by a good Philadelphia defense, starting in Week 3 though things have slowly started getting better for them. Easily beat a young Giants team, destroyed a Ravens team that has been decimated by injuries, small hick up losing to the Jags in an upset but it's the NFL, and then dog walked a really good Detroit team yesterday. Biggest issue for KC seems to be their inability to run the football so their offense has become a bit 1 dimensional but getting Rice back from suspension next week should at least take their passing attack to the next level. All in all it's just been a slow start but they're well in position to get control of the division back
plush jungle
I've never watched golf
fleet orbit
it was …. fine
i didn’t love it but it was okay
dim kettle
I've never watched golf
Understandable. The Niners are often still too hurt to play. 
plush jungle
proud coyote
John Brodie was a great golfer tbh
plush jungle
NFL players playing golf in cabo wouldnt be the worst idea after the season
proud coyote
Maybe the best other sport pro golfer ever
vestal axle
So now that I understand a bit better I'll try my best to explain. Rice being th...
speaking for ravens, how are they doing? They've one of the best QB in NFL right? Lamar Jackson??
dim kettle
They're a sad team rn
plush jungle
absolutely awful
proud coyote
speaking for ravens, how are they doing? They've one of the best QB in NFL right...
Lamar is injured
rustic ore
speaking for ravens, how are they doing? They've one of the best QB in NFL right...
Decimated by injuries. Lamar is currently out with a pulled hamstring for at least the next 2 weeks
fleet orbit
so when i watched it i think i get why it hypes people up
hell i can admit i also came off a march madness high
it’s just …. idk , too like upper class white man from naperville , IL for me
dim kettle
Looking like John Harbaugh's last year bad.
proud coyote
He should get immediately hired
plush jungle
he will
proud coyote
Titans specifically
vestal axle
and there's a famous QB in Jaguars right??? whats his name
proud coyote
lol
dim kettle
I wonder if the Jets would try also.
plush jungle
Trevor Lawrence
fleet orbit
trevor lawrence you mean?
plush jungle
not that he's good
fleet orbit
he’s kinda league average
rustic ore
and there's a famous QB in Jaguars right??? whats his name
Trevor Lawrence, he's not what I would call...great. He's extremely overpaid rn
proud coyote
I wonder if the Jets would try also.
That would be very jets of them but they shouldn’t
plush jungle
da raiders should
rustic ore
But the Jags are currently winning games (because of their defense) so he's getting a pass right now
vestal axle
Trevor Lawrence, he's not what I would call...great. He's extremely overpaid rn
idk anything about it but for some reason I've heard his name alot
proud coyote
Jags are winning games because of their unsustainable turnover deficit
fleet orbit
i don’t think harbaugh gets fired
plush jungle
it's hard to say
dim kettle
That would be very jets of them but they shouldn’t
The Jets are desperate for their next Bill Parcells. lol
fleet orbit
all things considered the jaguars aren’t in a bad spot rn
plush jungle
jaguars are fine
rustic ore
idk anything about it but for some reason I've heard his name alot
I think a part of it is usually for NFL teams their QBs are considered the primary face of their franchises. What with Shaq Khan being the Jags owner and making a concentrated effort to get a lot of the London games the Jags are gonna get a lot of international exposure
vestal axle
all things considered the jaguars aren’t in a bad spot rn
ohh... who's this year's rookie to look forward to?
#1 draft??
fervent blaze
fleet orbit
ohh... who's this year's rookie to look forward to?
are you saying current rookie or next year
vestal axle
are you saying current rookie or next year
no like this year
plush jungle
I must admit the Panthers having the same record as the chiefs is not what I expected
vestal axle
who's looking promising
fleet orbit
the number 1 overall qb is cam ward he plays for the titans
plush jungle
e2 looks good
rustic ore
no like this year
Emeka Egbuka the rookie WR for the Bucs is off to a historic start, looks to be the front runner for offensive rookie of the year
He did just get injured though yesterday though
So that puts a little damper on his season
plush jungle
oh dang
vestal axle
I follow soccer alot but the best thing I like about NFL is the draft. This imho makes the league more interesting since teams with bad seasons could get better by getting good players
dim kettle
He did just get injured though yesterday though
Hopefully it's just a week.
plush jungle
it's also actually fair unlike the lottery
rustic ore
oh dang
He's taking the "I'm gonna supplant Mike Evans going forward" role too seriously, even starting to copy Mike's yearly hamstring pull
plush jungle
welp
fleet orbit
basketball is the same there too but the lottery is a weird system i don’t like it
but i probably shouldn’t say that as a fan of a franchise who did benefit from it and got an mvp
out of it
vestal axle
I follow soccer alot but the best thing I like about NFL is the draft. This imho...
in soccer so much money is involved that a lower team beating a top team is like miracle
dim kettle
basketball is the same there too but the lottery is a weird system i don’t like ...
No one should like it because it's often rigged.
plush jungle
I don't like the lottery
fleet orbit
No one should like it because it's often rigged.
nico getting number 1 backs this up
plush jungle
nhl and MLB do this also
rustic ore
Current draft order before the games tonight btw
fleet orbit
the wizards are collateral damage of the lottery
slow violet
The lottery is so rigged
dim kettle
With the NHL and MLB at least there isn't a guaranteed best player to play immediately.
slow violet
I can't accept the lottery system
fleet orbit
i don’t even know how you’d scout baseball
plush jungle
me neither
fleet orbit
i mean mike piazza was considered a dud prospect and he turned out awesome
plush jungle
or hockey for that matter
dim kettle
i don’t even know how you’d scout baseball
Baseball and Hockey players are being drafted just out of high school or still in high school in many cases.
plush jungle
they also don't play right away usually
dim kettle
how popular is MLB in US as of now???
I'd say 3rd popular rn
slow violet
how popular is MLB in US as of now???
I would tank it 4th or 5th
vestal axle
all i've heard is its falling
fleet orbit
how popular is MLB in US as of now???
still very but i would say nfl and nba are probably more popular as of now (nfl obviously is )
plush jungle
can't really answer that one as a Canadian
id have to guess f1 is close to as popular
dim kettle
You have the big 4 sports. And honestly It's the NFL and everyone else rn.
proud coyote
I would tank it 4th or 5th
What is above it besides football and basketball lol
plush jungle
pretty much
vestal axle
can't really answer that one as a Canadian
isn't ice hockey the most popular there?
plush jungle
NFL NBA clear second
fleet orbit
hockey ain’t more popular than baseball , and that’s by nature of the fact that hockey isn’t cheap to play
dim kettle
You put a NFL game on it's going to crush a NBA or MLB game.
fleet orbit
but as far as niche fandoms go the nhl fans have my respect
plush jungle
it's hockey historically but basketball is catching up recently
slow violet
What is above it besides football and basketball lol
- Football..... Canyon sized fcuking gap ........ 2. Basketball 3. Soccer (most youth organized) 4. Baseball
People don't watch soccer in the US but they do play it
rustic ore
how popular is MLB in US as of now???
Trending in a good direction but at a snails pace in comparison to the big 4 sports leagues. NFL is by far the most popular in States, NBA in 2nd, Baseball probably 3rd and NHL probably 4th
dim kettle
People don't watch soccer in the US but they do play it
Yeah. That always made no sense to me.
fleet orbit
People don't watch soccer in the US but they do play it
this is a good point
proud coyote
People don't watch soccer in the US but they do play it
In the US, the gap between people who watch baseball and people who watch soccer is larger than the gap between people who play soccer and people who play baseball
fleet orbit
Yeah. That always made no sense to me.
soccer is maybe the cheapest sport to organize and play if you are short on money
that does factor in
plush jungle
oh playing lacrosse is probably somewhere there but I haven't seen much
proud coyote
Lacrosse is an east coast thing
North east
And wherever those wasps have migrated to
plush jungle
soccer is prevelant here in Canada but I only played for a year
dim kettle
Soccer IDK if it's because we like things closer to our country or a culture thing just hasn't clicked with many people including me in the US.
plush jungle
yeh I'm talking about Canada
rustic ore
Doesn't help the the very best of the best soccer teams are in the Eastern hemisphere so any fans in the West would have to get up insanely early to watch games
Cest la vie
vestal axle
Doesn't help the the very best of the best soccer teams are in the Eastern hemis...
you mean european football?
fleet orbit
now as an american one thing that is refreshing about european players is many of them don’t resonate with celebrity culture in america , and i do not either
rustic ore
Mhm
dim kettle
Even Hockey here has more ground in the US than soccer.
fleet orbit
but it’s easier to facilitate playing soccer
plush jungle
yeah soccer in terms of people watching isn't big here
slow violet
Soccer IDK if it's because we like things closer to our country or a culture thi...
It's mostly because we have not fostered the environment dedicated to it. To have soccer at.the level of Europe we need to start kids from youth not just when they hit 18. Now tell me what parents in the US would be signing their kid up for that where they drop school to go play for a club from 6 years old.
fleet orbit
hockey you have to pay for both hockey and ice skating lessons
vestal axle
now as an american one thing that is refreshing about european players is many o...
some big ones are very very big though
fleet orbit
poverty does have sway in sports
vestal axle
u know killian mbappe
dim kettle
It's mostly because we have not fostered the environment dedicated to it. To hav...
If we started now. But this goes back generations basically.
plush jungle
in Canada it's more of a summer thing
vestal axle
u know killian mbappe
even macron would suck him off if he ask him to
fleet orbit
some big ones are very very big though
big but you have guys like jokic who gets more emotional about
horses and i love it
americans might be confused by it but it gives me a glimpse into his culture which i think is cool
dim kettle
I think the US is unique in that regard. We gravitated to our own things. American Football is becoming more known around the world, but for the longest time it was just our own thing we had.
plush jungle
also Canada lol
dim kettle
Well, North America.
fleet orbit
I think the US is unique in that regard. We gravitated to our own things. Americ...
one of the rare things actually original about america
slow violet
If we started now. But this goes back generations basically.
Our social structure just doesn't allow it imho. Lol and truthfully.... It's because only rich kids in affluent neighborhoods (yts) get into soccer (professionally) 🤣 it's honestly the same problem for baseball. If we want soccer to grow in the US we need a bigger cultural imprint/higher salaries in the MLB truthfully
fleet orbit
if these international games are to get more respect they need to send better teams across the globe
fleet orbit
Our social structure just doesn't allow it imho. Lol and truthfully.... It's bec...
i mean idk baseball has a history of people from poor places coming up with make shift ways to somehow play it
slow violet
Maybe in the past but think about the cost to be good at baseball today
fleet orbit
i guess i don’t associate soccer and baseball with wealth
slow violet
Same with basketball
fleet orbit
still cheaper than say hockey
dim kettle
With baseball, anyone can play it. All you need is a stick and ball.
fleet orbit
yeah but to get good you have to have resources to play
and basketball isn’t too bad a cost of entry
thorn hornet
Cape Verde went to the WC
fleet orbit
get a ball for 25 bucks and find a public park
slow violet
Basketball was cheap but now our programs are ruined
slow violet
NIL has ruined American sports IMHO
fleet orbit
i straight up go shoot jumpers when i’m pissed off
vestal axle
NIL has ruined American sports IMHO
NIL?
slow violet
Name image likeness basically money for younger athletes who aren't pros
fleet orbit
NIL has ruined American sports IMHO
its lack of regulation is what ruined it
slow violet
It has brought in so much money and ruined programs
Youth basketball is terrible
That's why Europe dominating us recently
hasty basin
How did Thauvin even get called up in 2025
dim kettle
IDK a lot about those. I played hockey for awhile before I couldn't catch up anymore.
fleet orbit
AAU basketball breaks bodies down so quickly too
there’s very little knowledge out there on taking care of the body to handle being a professional athlete
dim kettle
Yeah, that's a major problem happening with baseball pitchers. And it's causing more Tommy John surgery victims more and more quickly.
fleet orbit
i think europeans often have to play grown men at a young age so they are more prepared
Luka was like 16 playing grown men
fleet orbit
in this case i am
fleet orbit
Yeah, that's a major problem happening with baseball pitchers. And it's causing ...
i always wondered about that , there seems to be less off speed guys
vestal axle
bcoz recently in soccer alot of young players are getting their debut
as young as 16
dim kettle
i always wondered about that , there seems to be less off speed guys
I remember when joining a sports team as a kid was suppose to be fun
vestal axle
the #2 best player of the 2024-25 season was a 17yo kid
fleet orbit
too much street ball mentality in america lots of europeans have to learn the professional level
of the game early
slow violet
AAU basketball breaks bodies down so quickly too
I saw something LeBron said a while back how the dudes now just play basketball non stop they basically burn out before the end of college. Where before people would just learn different skills by playing different sports. Now they just play 1 sport 24/7
rustic mountain
NIL has ruined American sports IMHO
A funny way to spell sports gambling
dim kettle
I'm telling you, some of these high school pitching coaches are some of the worst people to be around.
fleet orbit
I saw something LeBron said a while back how the dudes now just play basketball ...
i think guys like jimmy graham and tony gwynn played multiple sports in their day
slow violet
A funny way to spell sports gambling
That def goes into it
rustic mountain
NIL is a flawed solution to a problem
rustic mountain
I think that NCAA players were getting hosed by the NCAA, idk if NIL is the perfect remedy
But something needed to happen
slow violet
I'm telling you, some of these high school pitching coaches are some of the wors...
The coaches only care about fame instead of actually doing their job
rustic ore
NIL?
Name, Image, Likeness. Basically in only the past 6 years have college players been allowed to get sponsorship deals and make money off of their names while playing in college. Was banned until then
slow violet
I think that NCAA players were getting hosed by the NCAA, idk if NIL is the perf...
Agreed but the supreme Court fucked this up
fleet orbit
I saw something LeBron said a while back how the dudes now just play basketball ...
rest is productivity , lebron gets it
like we just had 3 nba stars tear their achilles in the same playoffs
vestal axle
Name, Image, Likeness. Basically in only the past 6 years have college players b...
so whats the bad part of that???
isnt that a good thing
u make money while studing
fleet orbit
i think the problem is these smaller schools are a farm system for guys to go to bigger places
vestal axle
and since the clg fees is so high u get to pay it
fleet orbit
and even professional sports has things in place that give … idk… the bills or a smaller market a chance to compete
but these schools are barely above water
rustic ore
so whats the bad part of that???
It is a good thing college players are finally getting paid but for generations colleges wanted to treat just being given scholarships as being "fair" compensation while wracking in billions a year from advertisements and merchandise sales
Twas a scam
slow violet
When I was in high school if you wanted to do speed training you would just go run track.
You play basketball to work on your short area quickness, play soccer or box for endurance training
fleet orbit
that’s where i can’t completely dismiss nil
say what you want about manziel but he was right to say he should’ve been able to profit during his time in the spotlight
weak gull
NIL has ruined American sports IMHO
NIL???!!!
silk pine
if they dont want to let college players earn money for their play then college coaches should be making like 70 grand a year
weak gull
Literally
slow violet
College players should earn money for sure
rustic ore
and since the clg fees is so high u get to pay it
The biggest "issue" rn seems to be that colleges that have the wealthiest donors/boosters can effectively "buy" the best HS prospects
slow violet
but why the fuck are high schoolers and middle schoolers getting nil deals
rustic ore
So it leaves "lesser" programs in the dust in a sense
vestal axle
So it leaves "lesser" programs in the dust in a sense
ohhh
slow violet
https://tenor.com/view/rainbow-spongebob-imagination-gif-999515482279420853
Sadge
rustic mountain
Agreed but the supreme Court fucked this up
Who woulda thought
fleet orbit
https://tenor.com/view/rainbow-spongebob-imagination-gif-999515482279420853
#thanksihateit
rustic ore
ohhh
I think there is a good argument that there needs to be some kind of regulation that says schools can't offer X amount of money on NIL deals to try and lure HS prospects each year to try and level the playing field a pinch
weak gull
NIL probably needs some kind of structure to it - but in a capitalistic society that the NCAA HELPED PERPETUATE - it’s so damn crazy for them to want anything
The ncaa should not own the rights to someone’s name image and likeness when they MAKE THEM the money
rustic mountain
Agreed with Vinny
slow violet
Agreed
rustic mountain
That's why I said NIL is a flawed solution but something needed to haplen
Happen
slow violet
fleet orbit
i’m not casting judgement on these college students for chasing the bag , i get it
weak gull
But also it’s not just NIL, revenue sharing is also a big bubble
rustic ore
Gosh I loved that episode
vestal axle
the ncaa is corrupt and dirty
a sports body is corrupt??? where have I seen that?? laughs in almost every sports body that exists on earth
weak gull
I think NIL is just a hype term sometimes lol
fleet orbit
a sports body is corrupt??? where have I seen that?? laughs in almost every spor...
i hate how right you are lol
i think the unlimited transfer portal is the far bigger problem
vestal axle
at least its not as bad as soccer <:QueenKEKW:702706011298988045>
FR i was gonna say that
its not corruption within sports but rather sports within corruption
20-30 years ago playing field was leveled
small teams could win the tournaments
now most of them are there just to feed the top clubs
smh
mental wind
@proud coyote merab vs yan december lmao
silk pine
oh boy merab wins again
dim kettle
Gosh I loved that episode
The Lightning finally won a game. It was not a good win and the team looks slow and clueless when the other team scores, but it's a win.
weak gull
i think the unlimited transfer portal is the far bigger problem
Schools are going to just start doing contracts soon with more in them
You know what I do, so I’m kinda involved. Many guys already have contracts for their nil stipulating what they can and can’t do and what grades they need to hold. Just couldn’t tie it to the school
They need to/will start putting the portal into those contracts now that rev sharing is a thing - and it won’t be
proud coyote
<@134857202446893056> merab vs yan december lmao
He’s actually fucking doing it
What a monster
fleet orbit
so basically you sign a certain contract and you can’t just unconditionally dip?
mental wind
oh boy merab wins again
ye but its good to see a champ fighting every few months
mental wind
He’s actually fucking doing it
yup
I thought Umar tbf
also Pantoja too
decent event
proud coyote
I thought Umar tbf
Umar has to fight Mario
silk pine
ye but its good to see a champ fighting every few months
ive dropped out of watching ufc consistently i cant remember the last card i watched
but merab via 75 takedowns
vestal axle
does anyone of you watch any esports???
proud coyote
decent event
Amazing event lol:
merab vs yan
pantoja vs van
cejudo vs talbott
moreno vs taira
bogdan vs jan
silk pine
does anyone of you watch any esports???
i used to be huge into rocket league but not anymore
proud coyote
does anyone of you watch any esports???
I watch league
silk pine
i may watch some apex esports occasionally
vestal axle
I watch league
who's winning this time??? T1
vestal axle
i may watch some apex esports occasionally
how's fnc over there??
proud coyote
who's winning this time??? T1
I mean based on historical precedent they’ll just pull some BS and win but it really should be GenG this year
silk pine
how's fnc over there??
idk i watch is super rarely now, ill maybe watch the LAN a little closer but the game is so bad
vestal axle
I mean based on historical precedent they’ll just pull some BS and win but it re...
are they some kind of super team???
currently?
proud coyote
are they some kind of super team???
Basically yes, Korean super team that keeps falling short
silk pine
but usually i prefer single player games
what ones
fleet orbit
cuphead is my all time favorite
persona 5 royal
i always messed with platformers
tried dark souls , struggled , might give it another shot
vestal axle
does anyone of you watch CS or Valo?
fleet orbit
i don’t always like talking to people when i’m gaming
proud coyote
does anyone of you watch CS or Valo?
Some people do in #games
vestal axle
Some people do in <#265931484072902656>
oh yeah those must be in #games... mb
I recently started playing RPG
fleet orbit
highly reccomend ! and i guess i play one multiplayer game a lot , TF2
vestal axle
got sold on Ghost of Tsushima
proud coyote
Yeah that’s a cool game
vestal axle
and played mafia 2 & 3 as well
silk pine
ive never played TF2, im currently addicted to Deadlock which is Valves MOBA
vestal axle
ive never played TF2, im currently addicted to Deadlock which is Valves MOBA
whats going on with that
player count is in shambles
its in alpha right?
silk pine
its in a playtest atm yea, i mean its not bad but its gome some issues, the matchmaking is kinda horrid. its not based on your skill level so you just get an insane range of player level in your games
silk pine
yea, but deadlock is like a 3rd person shooter moba not a birds eye view kind of thing like dota and league
same concept but plays a little different
vestal axle
oh
weak gull
so basically you sign a certain contract and you can’t just unconditionally dip?
Pretty much
They couldn’t do this because it wasn’t the school paying them anything - how can you hold someone down to the school and the schools not paying out of their pocket? Lawsuit waiting to happen
But now that rev sharing is in play, that’s not much of an issue
vestal axle
like marvel rivals??
weak gull
Not to say it happens instantly, but it will start to occur
silk pine
like marvel rivals??
thats basically overwatch
fleet orbit
and it might fix up march madness as the last 2 years have been far too chalky
silk pine
different style of game
vestal axle
different style of game
okkkk.....
lets see when its gonna be released
will definitely try it
slow violet
lool i thought I was in the wrong channel for a sec
vestal axle
LMAO
fleet orbit
you expected a bunch of one piece fans to stay on topic? that’s your mistake 😂😂😂😂
i kid i kid , i enjoy these talks
fleet orbit
oh wait mariners jays is today?
silk pine
both games today
fleet orbit
oh hell yeah, it’s a day off for me
fleet orbit
both games today
i’m a little too anxious to think straight about other sports lol
dim kettle
you expected a bunch of one piece fans to stay on topic? that’s your mistake 😂�...
Be like a straw hat. No plan. No plan to stay on topic.
rustic ore
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/report-deebo-samuel-is-expected-to-play-on-monday-night @sweet tree @dawn tapir
Nice get
fleet orbit
Be like a straw hat. **No plan. No plan to stay on topic.**
it reminds me of when nami and luffy are talking about the ethics of kuro and luffy says i want meat lol
i’m most worried about the run game of the commanders
bears run defense is the biggest weakness of this team besides swift being swift
dim kettle
Well, I also think pass rush is a big weakness.
fleet orbit
i’m hoping a much healthier defense after the bye can remedy a bit
sweat has been disappointing
rustic ore
Just heard Matt Rhule is apparently the front runner to get the Penn State job
Please be true
silk pine
Just heard **Matt Rhule** is apparently the front runner to get the Penn State j...
boy am i glad i dont care about college football
dim kettle
College sports is a different league.
silk pine
rustic ore
Just heard **Matt Rhule** is apparently the front runner to get the Penn State j...
@weak gull
fleet orbit
only reason swift isn’t the bigger talking point is because last week caleb dragged him to the finish line
he’s so bad
dim kettle
It's amazing that Matt Foole's legacy in the NFL is having both Darnold and Baker on the roster and still sucking.
rustic ore
Baker would've been an elite DE I'm sure
weak gull
Rhule is a good college coach
What gets me though is Penn state accepted literal DECADES of being second tier to UM and OSU with Joe Paternos scandal having ass
Like yeah want better, but it’s not like Franklin didn’t go to playoffs last year and win some games…also is Rhule that much a step up???!
fleet orbit
coaching in both nfl and college is very different
i’m not even saying nfl is harder it’s more so personalities
like deion sanders is not an nfl coach , and bill belichick is appearing not to be a college coach
it’s in basketball too, no one is saying coach k isn’t a legend just cuz he didn’t coach in the nba
dim kettle
It depends. College and NFL styles are getting closer and closer to the same now. But it's approach, understanding the room. That was a criticism of Pete Caroll when he came to the Seahawks. His energy work on younger guys in college, but would NFL pros take it seriously?
fleet orbit
scheme wise they are but culture is different
dim kettle
Cmon, Leafs. Seriously?
dim kettle
scheme wise they are but culture is different
Yeah. It's like I said. Motivating college age students is a lot easier to do than motivating mid-20 to 30 year old NFL pros with tons of experience.
amber grove
W NFL LFG
rustic ore
https://x.com/RapSheet/status/1977842016961876398
Really disappointing to see he crashed out like that last night, think he's a stud player
As a Bucs fan though I'll happily take him missing that game against my boys
Need all the help they can get rn
rustic ore
dang
I hate double headers
Like just make 1 game 3 hours earlier than the other
It's not that hard
silk pine
doesnt matter much to me honestly im watching the baseball games instead
but it is dumb
rustic ore
Expected
uncut cape
everytime i see McCoy i think about that old Texas QB
have no idea why but i do
silk pine
im rootin for the mariners
fleet orbit
home run
silk pine
amber grove
HAPPY THANKSGIVING CANADA
silk pine
i will say the announcer made it sound like its a regular season game when he hit that
baseball needs some better commentators
smoky fable
Think he said he got blocked in the back by Juju, but Juju said he was making blocks
rustic ore
"Bully" grown ass man acting like a child
silk pine
"Bully" grown ass man acting like a child
id take his paycheck to get bullied
amber grove
silk pine
why is that not ben stiller lol
rustic ore
I don't know but someone used AI over it
rustic ore
Not sure how I feel about those Mariners jerseys they got on today, kinda feel like it clashes with the rest of the uni
fleet orbit
i could see 0 big name hires this nfl offseason
what jobs are actually attractive
solid hit
rustic ore
If somehow Taylor got canned Cincy would have to be #1 cause of Burrow and Chase
Miami only looks good if Grier is gone and they actually give time to the new staff to rebuild
smoky fable
Miami only looks good if Grier is gone and they actually give time to the new st...
Grier has to go
He’s done enough damage
ripe yacht
it’s nothing against the jays
I want jays to win, been a lifelong fan since last week 
rustic ore
I'm not expecting it cause I don't think ATL finishes with a losing record, but IF somehow Raheem got canned that would easily be a top job because of that defense
Titans have a lot of cap space to work with in the offseason
Could turn things around real quick with some luck
amber grove
I'm not expecting it cause I don't think ATL finishes with a losing record, but ...
If we miss the playoffs Raheem is gone
rustic ore
You know how Blank likes hanging onto guys too long
hollow wind
MNF double headers are the bane of my existence
rustic ore
I think at minimum a 9-8 keeps him another year
sweet tree
the swedes are deadass bottom of the group
rustic ore
MNF double headers are the bane of my existence
Count your blessings, west coasters at least have some time to enjoy the end of the night after prime time games. Gonna damn near be midnight when the last game ends here
hollow wind
I’m in Ohio Buc 😭 😭
rustic ore
hollow wind
I’m on EST too
rustic ore
My b
hollow wind
Lmao it’s allg
rustic ore
Forgot you still go to school there
hollow wind
plush jungle
what is that tag lol
fleet orbit
i just don’t like that they had 2 different fanbases wait an extra day after a bye week
hollow wind
Dirt
plush jungle
just like the rams
fleet orbit
ah well @amber grove good luck
smoky fable
MNF double headers are the bane of my existence
Was surprised you didn’t adjust your lineup for fantasy
With London and Rome coming up
smoky fable
the swedes are deadass bottom of the group
Oof. With the talent they have
plush jungle
let's not talk about fantasy
amber grove
ah well <@232026179895427073> good luck
We will prosper eventually
3 TO 1 MARINERS NOW
Huge mistake by Seattle
fleet orbit
We will prosper eventually
let us both prosper tonight
my opponent is down 40 and they have deebo and caleb left to play
i’m gonna lose
hollow wind
Was surprised you didn’t adjust your lineup for fantasy
I made a big mistake 
smoky fable
I made a big mistake <:grief:804322128236118067>
Oof I see
hollow wind
I forgot to change it back after last week when they all had Byes
amber grove
You know how Blank likes hanging onto guys too long
True but Blank is really Super Bowl hungry
smoky fable
I forgot to change it back after last week when they all had Byes
Yeah it do be like that
smoky fable
True but Blank is really Super Bowl hungry
Continue investing in the soccer scene too Arthur. One of the few who do
fleet orbit
i’m starting to think raheem is the problem
that falcons roster isn’t trash , it’s a quality roster
amber grove
Raheem has done fine
Defense his him and Ulbrich and it has played great
Offense looked good against Washington if they just find consistency on offense we can be the good team we think we are
fleet orbit
i think this double header on paper is good
i think the falcons could give the bills trouble
and daniels is a problem but the bears have one of the best secondaries in the nfc
with gordon and brisker playing tonight
sweet tree
Oof. With the talent they have
honestly Sweden is kind of mid bar like 3 players but they deffo shouldn't be last of their group.
amber grove
3-2 way to choke it Seattle
rustic mountain
Heyyyyy we scored 1 more than yesterday!
smoky fable
honestly Sweden is kind of mid bar like 3 players but they deffo shouldn't be l...
Yep
rustic mountain
Let's see if Trey can settle down
fleet orbit
i gotta be honest i would afraid of a ball going that fast
idk how hitters compose themselves , it’s impressive
versed forge
silk pine
https://fixvx.com/StainbrookNFL/status/1977834575155085539 <@448109304877154327>
im a bucs fans for the rest of the season i dont care 
rustic ore
im a bucs fans for the rest of the season i dont care <:BonUp:242756746798563330...
We have rum and smelling salts
silk pine
rustic mountain
Daulton Varsho is ELITE
smoky fable
Oh nice, Toronto tied things up
amber grove
Come on Falcons
dim kettle
simple seal
This ump is buttcheeks 😭
rustic mountain
https://x.com/RapSheet/status/1977859732544139473
Brother what lmao
rustic mountain
This ump is buttcheeks 😭
I cant see, I am listening but the radio broadcasters are like tf??
rustic ore
Brother what lmao
You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take I guess
amber grove
Jorge owns Toronto
hollow wind
Good base hit
robust grotto
rustic mountain
Don't think we got enough to move on
Oh well, once the Mariners get to the world series go mariners
We at least put out the Yankees in their house
rustic mountain
We got nothing man, Mariners pitching is great, they are hitting off of our best dudes
Id love to see a comeback and okay with being wrong
But I just don't think they got it
rustic lichen
Debating what’s wrong with the Jets has been something TV sports analysts can fall back on as a topic for decades
dim kettle
https://vxtwitter.com/wfan660/status/1977811575391076454?s=46&t=0dPhD14zL5uzVVpe...
It's like I was saying, John Harbaugh could be available next year.
rustic lichen
Now it’s carried to podcasts
rustic mountain
Wouldn't be the first time a Toronto team ran outta gas in the playoffs, won't be the last. Tune in come spring time for the annual Leafs fuck up in the 1st/2nd rounds
rustic lichen
It's like I was saying, John Harbaugh could be available next year.
How many former ravens greats have gone to the jets now if this happens lmao
Ed Reed, Flacco, now Harbaugh
dim kettle
Ed Reed was a funny one.
hollow wind
So close to a homer there lol
robust grotto
It's like I was saying, John Harbaugh could be available next year.
It’s a no brainer. Now do either want to marry? That’s the question
dim kettle
It's a good challenge.
robust grotto
Now it’s carried to podcasts
Well this is radio but yes lol
rustic lichen
Apparently according to a lot of former NFL players John Harbaugh is a meathead lmao
There’s a video of him lifting an absurd amount of weight
Oh yeah he squatted 405
dim kettle
What's wrong with the Jets is a culture problem; their mindset has been outdated for over 15 years now. One offensive-minded HC in 15 years ONE. Using multiple early picks on the defensive side of the ball. It's just a shit show.
robust grotto
Also siren I saw your cooper comment earlier but forgot to get back
My thoughts is .. you guys have the one position locked down that like 28 teams are desperate for. As long as 88 exists, they have to go for it as much as possible, and a new coach with a new message and idea could be the perfect spark
The one hire the Jets made that was offensive minded, AND not a first time coach, was Gase lol
Incredible.
simple seal
Polanco is him
dim kettle
My thoughts is .. you guys have the one position locked down that like 28 teams ...
Even with the win today. The Bolts just look bad. The moment the opposing team scores a goal, the team panics like a headless chicken.
robust grotto
Even with the win today. The Bolts just look bad. The moment the opposing team s...
That was us last year but without the chicken part. Simply gave up, heads down, “get me to post game please” mentality
dim kettle
Meanwhile, you talk about this with any Bolts fan, it's absolute denial rn.
It's only 3 games of the year, but don't understand the full picture. Nothing rn indicates things are any different.
Only getting worse.
robust grotto
You see, I always appreciate talking to you (even with the constant jabs at my sports pain) because you live in reality
I also would like to think I live in reality too lol
amber grove
dim kettle
It's a reality that not many fans of the team know what a Lightning team is without Jon Cooper.
rustic mountain
The Titans just fuck around don't they lmao
fleet orbit
https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1977863698547916839?s=46&t=bUnx3OUmkC9LbaH-qm6M...
the titans are gonna make ward a bust if nagy gets the job
amber grove
the titans are gonna make ward a bust if nagy gets the job
Cannot let him get his hands on that talent
rustic mountain
Feels bad for Titans fans
robust grotto
Well I also think the Bolts need to drop the tough guy act like some Panther wanna be. Need to get back to being that high octane side, buzzing around nonstop
fleet orbit
Cannot let him get his hands on that talent
nagy doesn’t even get credit for 2018 that defense was all ryan pace
rustic mountain
Sorry Hog, you deserve better man
fleet orbit
and fangio
dim kettle
Yeah good point. People are fearful for the unknown
IDK if you ever had the feeling with any sport. But a part of me honestly would take a losing season, then whatever the Bolts have been doing the last 2-3 years. It's such a hollow winning team.
robust grotto
There isn’t a bright spot that doesn’t involve a player who’s been there for 10 years
Maybe exaggerated but you get it
fleet orbit
arthur smith ??? he’s not even a good OC
rustic mountain
Well I also think the Bolts need to drop the tough guy act like some Panther wan...
Copy cat (ba dum tis) league
robust grotto
And yeah I constantly think about accepting a losing season
rustic mountain
People are gonna wanna do what the panthers are doing, which sucks
Because I hate that brand of hockey
dim kettle
With the Lightning, they've been a winning team the last few years, but it's like it's muscle memory, and the moment a Panthers come to best them up, they have no idea what to do. They're a winning team with no direction.
robust grotto
People are gonna wanna do what the panthers are doing, which sucks
So many teams get caught up with it. It’s sad. It works for them, they created a hell of a team from mostly players that were from outside their organization. Bob is going to get a lot of future teams in some biiiig trouble by giving contracts to goalies thinking they will age like Bob
Their brand will inevitably fall apart, like every team
rustic mountain
I mean I get it on some level
robust grotto
Their style is nasty
But I’ll give them this
It isn’t boring hockey
It really isn’t
fleet orbit
alright jake moody , please please please just don’t fucking suck tonight
rustic mountain
No it isn't boring. But god I hate the Panthers
fleet orbit
if there’s a good kicker in there jake , he’s needed
robust grotto
No it isn't boring. But god I hate the Panthers
I know lol
dim kettle
Well I also think the Bolts need to drop the tough guy act like some Panther wan...
The Bolts talk a big game about that. But the moment they're on the ice, they are some of biggest pushovers if things don't go their way right away.
rustic mountain
I would rather see Josh Allen win a super bowl than Matthew Tkachuck in another cup
robust grotto
Genuinely they are an anomaly in the last 10 whatever years. The majority of the panthers roster were not drafted by them
rustic mountain
At least Josh Allen is likable
fleet orbit
in a non judgemental way it’s funny hearing patriots fans say god i hope my divison doesn’t win
rustic mountain
Tkachuck is, in the calmest terms I can muster, garbage
robust grotto
The Bolts talk a big game about that. But the moment they're on the ice, they ar...
Sounds about right. And if you can’t walk the talk.. you’re done
rustic mountain
in a non judgemental way it’s funny hearing patriots fans say god i hope my divi...
Why? I hate my division
fleet orbit
Why? I hate my division
one win is not giving anyone cred over the pats
rustic mountain
Yes we won for years and years but I don't wanna see those assholes succeed
dim kettle
The Panthers have won these cups because they have things the Bolts haven't had in years. Things like hunger, and drive, and the ability minimizing dumb mistakes.
rustic mountain
Not about that Lebowski
fleet orbit
Yes we won for years and years but I don't wanna see those assholes succeed
who of the 3 would upset you the least
rustic mountain
It's about wanting to see my opponent suffer
fleet orbit
i respect the competitive spirit you have about your team
fleet orbit
and jets is just absolutely fucking not ?
yeah cuz boston and new york always got beef
rustic mountain
I would rather 5 sbs from Josh Allen than 1 from the Jets
fleet orbit
alright than i have a follow up question
what would you expect to happen first : jets break playoff drought or dolphins break playoff win drought
dim kettle
Yeah. The thing about NY sports in football is they can have an average QB play for them and they'll be talked like they're a top 3 QB in the league. Cough Eli Cough
fleet orbit
i’m honestly going the opposite and saying Jets but it’s a tough one
rustic mountain
I don't think the Jets owner, as long as woody lives, will ever be able to have a winning culture
robust grotto
The Panthers have won these cups because they have things the Bolts haven't had ...
simply outstanding GMing in their own way
rustic mountain
Dude just
fleet orbit
they haven’t had a good coach since rex
rustic mountain
Idk man it's crazy
fleet orbit
rex deserves some props tbh
robust grotto
I don't think the Jets owner, as long as woody lives, will ever be able to have ...
100% i cant stress enough
when people make fun of mara i'm like ??? okay they are ass but hes not woody
amber grove
I NEARLY SHIT MY PANTS BIJAN DON'T DO THAT
fleet orbit
rex went on tv made a foot fetish joke about myself and he instantly earned my respect for his honesty
dim kettle
simply outstanding GMing in their own way
Bolts Discord hates this saying so much but, the best way to explain why the Panthers have been so good is because They want it more
rustic lichen
Buffalo and Atlanta game already starting crazy
rustic mountain
Go Atlanta!!!
fleet orbit
i think i’m so nervous that im distracted from it lol
rustic mountain
rex deserves some props tbh
I'll leave the props in the mail
robust grotto
Bolts Discord hates this saying so much but, the best way to explain why the Pan...
no issues with spending more assets for players who fit. getting guys to sign league minimum deals
dude
they made the sneakiest trade of the offseason
in 2-3 years time we can be looking back at florida and saying -
HOW THE F were they allowed to trade for Tarasov
fleet orbit
i just think the dolphins strike me as a super soft franchise
you’d have to completely overhaul the way they view football
smoky fable
Oh I didn’t know the falcons game started
fleet orbit
dolphins need a killer instinct head coach
rustic lichen
Oh I didn’t know the falcons game started
Falcons at Buffalos 35 yard line
dim kettle
I really glad I can hate the Panthers in my lifetime. I just wish it would've happened 8-9 years prior so the Bolts wouldn't look like the old man.
robust grotto
lol
amber grove
LFG
fleet orbit
Tuddy
smoky fable
To who
amber grove
TYLER
fleet orbit
i like the helmets and jerseys of both teams
rustic lichen
Landon Jackson getting some snaps I see you MAN
Getting some reps on that Buffalo defense
smoky fable
Getting some reps on that Buffalo defense
That defense looked rough though
Really looks like chiefs AFC winners at this point
rustic lichen
That defense looked rough though
This is like one of his first games getting snaps
So I shall cut him some slack
smoky fable
This is like one of his first games getting snaps
Overall
rustic lichen
For now
smoky fable
Didn’t single him out
rustic mountain
Really looks like chiefs AFC winners at this point
Remember Thanksgiving
amber grove
I AM HAVING FUN PLEASE KEEP THIS GOING DEFENSE
rustic lichen
Damar Hamlin is out right? I know him and a few others on the Buffalo defense are out rn
dim kettle
People are talking about the throwbacks. I look at the Falcons helmets and I'm thinking, the Bills need to go back to a red helmet. I mean, Ralph Wilson changed the Bills helmets to red in the first place in the 80s because they wanted to look different.
rustic mountain
Patience is a virtue
rustic lichen
People are talking about the throwbacks. I look at the Falcons helmets and I'm t...
Red helmet Bills is peak
rustic mountain
Also please win Atlanta so I can say for at least one week that the Pats lead the division
fleet orbit
i am curious to see if lamar can save the ravens
rustic lichen
Also please win Atlanta so I can say for at least one week that the Pats lead th...
Imagine saying this shit at the beginning of the season
rustic mountain
Imagine saying this shit at the beginning of the season
I woulda slapped myself tbh
dim kettle
Doesn't matter to me. Bucs are the number one team in the NFL rn 
rustic lichen
i am curious to see if lamar can save the ravens
No he can’t. As a long time fan, Lamar has done more than enough already. We gotta let John Harbaugh go, really
And idek if that’s gonna fix shit
Cause Harbaugh and Lamar is a good duo
rustic mountain
I don't care about being #1 this season when I can just flex on Bills fans for a little while
fleet orbit
i think the ravens have enough leverage to hire a really good coach
rustic mountain
If we won the division I would be insufferable
rustic lichen
i think the ravens have enough leverage to hire a really good coach
You are correct we do. But we need a defensive overhaul, ESPECIALLY in the secondary.
fleet orbit
If we won the division I would be insufferable
i would be banned from this chat for indecency , i feel ya there
hollow wind
Huge throw
fleet orbit
You are correct we do. But we need a defensive overhaul, ESPECIALLY in the secon...
how do you feel about roquan nowadays
rustic mountain
i would be banned from this chat for indecency , i feel ya there
I can hear myself now in an alternate universe
"Thanks for keeping the seat warm bitches, didnt even win a ring while we were gone"
dim kettle
i am curious to see if lamar can save the ravens
The Ravens were having problems before the injuries. That's how dire it is in Baltimore.
rustic lichen
how do you feel about roquan nowadays
Trade his ass for a 2nd or 3rd rounder
fleet orbit
Trade his ass for a 2nd or 3rd rounder
i could see that as a return hes a good player
rustic lichen
The Ravens were having problems before the injuries. That's how dire it is in Ba...
Why you hate us so much shadow 
Even if you’re right
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I can hear myself now in an alternate universe
"Thanks for keeping the seat wa...
if you aren’t an asshole when the team starts winning you aren’t sporting right lol
rustic mountain
if you aren’t an asshole when the team starts winning you aren’t sporting right ...
I got ya beat, I am an asshole when we are bad too
fleet orbit
the ravens are in a brutal spot because you have prime lamar and they might only be able to retool
the ravens can’t rebuild rn
dim kettle
It's just a reality I'm facing with my Tampa Bay Lightning. John Harbaugh is still a good HC. But sometimes you overstay your welcome and you're no longer the voice the team needs.
smoky fable
Bills marching fast
silk pine
naylor pimped one
rustic mountain
Chalk it up as a lost year for Baltimore
fleet orbit
the mariners are going cray cray
silk pine
i miss him
fleet orbit
It's just a reality I'm facing with my Tampa Bay Lightning. John Harbaugh is sti...
the dolphins getting Harbaugh is an interesting idea
rustic mountain
I did say we didnt have it. Mariners in the world series is fine tho, 2nd team/hometeam reppin
smoky fable
<:BobbinFeels:701983945293561887> i miss him
Only thing questionable was his first base defense
rustic lichen
i could see that as a return hes a good player
Tbh I think it’s time for a huge overhaul in multiple areas. Rebuild style. Since 96 we’ve usually had a very good team, every season. We just aren’t accustomed to having a good team offensively instead of defensively. Fire Harbaugh, sign and trade for a few prominent offensive free agents, and then draft solely for the defense.
We were due for a few years of the suck
silk pine
Only thing questionable was his first base defense
his defense was amazing for the Guardians
fleet orbit
i could see it , but would there be some regrets about keeping lamar on a non contender
smoky fable
his defense was amazing for the Guardians
Wow really
I guess compared to Christian Walker my standards were different.
But that’s something
dim kettle
Why you hate us so much shadow <:UsoppGrief:934036033098625024>
Ben. If I hated the Ravens, I would've said extend John to a lifetime contract and extend the DC. 
smoky fable
Paul Goldschmidt way back
fleet orbit
John Harbaugh had overall a great run as baltimore head coach and i can see why he might not return
fleet orbit
but it would be after the season and i’m sure ravens fans
mostly respect him
rustic lichen
i could see it , but would there be some regrets about keeping lamar on a non co...
Lamar is the greatest QB in NFL history to never win a ring imo, he’s eclipsed Marino. If he wants to get traded or leave Baltimore I hope the best and I hope the organization doesn’t stop him and accommodates
rustic ore
Lamar is the greatest QB in NFL history to never win a ring imo, he’s eclipsed M...
Counter point, Marino at least got to an SB once
rustic mountain
Lamar is the greatest QB in NFL history to never win a ring imo, he’s eclipsed M...
Brother what no
fleet orbit
there’s still time in Lamar’s life to get there
rustic ore
Yeah I personally think it's too soon to say that Lamar has eclipsed Marino
dim kettle
I actually think the fact that I can come on here and tell truths about teams and what they should do indicates I don't hate many teams. Hating teams means I would lie. And that's why the Saints need to keep Loomis for a long time. Because he's doing a very good job at GM and keeping the older guard around. 
plush jungle
Josh Allen is closer to Lamar than Lamar is to marino
rustic mountain
He has not eclipsed Dan Marino, Lamar has got work to do
Id actually agree there
fleet orbit
Josh Allen is closer to Lamar than Lamar is to marino
yes
rustic ore
Marino is a consensus top 10 QB all time, I don't know if people would say Lamar would be that if he retired rn
rustic mountain
Hell Warren Moon and Randall Cunningham had amazing careers
We gotta slow the hell down man
fleet orbit
it’s getting even weirder to compare eras as the rapid change in passing standards happens
dim kettle
Hell Warren Moon and Randall Cunningham had amazing careers
What's sad about Warren Moon is a lot of his career was in the CFL.
rustic lichen
rustic mountain
Yes but even with the cfl
fleet orbit
especially when QBs are starting from shorter fields
rustic mountain
Which btw wasn't really his choice
That was out right racism
He had an amazing career
rustic ore
Looks like it might've been raining in DC
Reporters are wearing rain jackets
Could be a muddy game
fleet orbit
the respect for black quarterbacks has come along way
like half the league are colored
plush jungle
sigh lol jays
dim kettle
Looks like it might've been raining in DC
Well, it's raining rn in Jersey. So that would make sense.
rustic mountain
Jays just dont got it this year man but that's okay
We put out the Yankees
And won the division
plush jungle
further than I thought they'd make it
rustic mountain
Cool as hell
rustic ore
I want to ping Drizzy but he's probably in the zone watching so I don't want to bother him
dim kettle
i think donovan mcnabb deserves some props
I think he get's undercut a lot because he's seen as a product of Reid. But the guy was good for his time
fleet orbit
mcnabb made some plays that were absolutely ridiculous
plush jungle
man I don't know much history as a new fan
ah well
all I know is that Dan Marino was insane
dim kettle
It's hard to really point out anything about the McNabb because that was mostly a running game team unless we're talking about the one season with TO
rustic ore
mcnabb made some plays that were absolutely ridiculous
He played a game on a broken ankle, I got nothing but respect for him as a player
fleet orbit
Dan Marino would be even better in this era
fleet orbit
He played a game on a broken ankle, I got nothing but respect for him as a playe...
same with phillip on a torn acl
rustic ore
Ran into a sack
rustic mountain
Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Warren Moon, Randall Cunningham all dudes who didnt get rings but were ballers
rustic ore
And Fran Tarkenton
rustic mountain
Him too
rustic ore
Really fun player by his highlights
@amber grove Do want to say, really wish ATL wore their throwbacks full time. Super clean, one of my favorite unis
dim kettle
People say Dan Marino was someone that felt like someone made a time machine from around this time, threw him into the 1980s and had him play ball.
rustic ore
same with phillip on a torn acl
If I read correctly didn't Hines Ward play his entire career without an ACL in one of his knees?
Like what?
rustic ore
Yeah this is wild
dim kettle
Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Warren Moon, Randall Cunningham all dudes who didnt get r...
It sucked for Randall Cunningham. He fucked his knee up and never was the same aside from 1998.
rustic ore
What a monster
dim kettle
0 wins against NE in January. 
rustic mountain
Yes but I still disliked him and those teams
rustic mountain
They talked a ton of smack for a team that never backed it up
Least the Ravens came in and beat us sometimes
rustic ore
Holy shit Shakir!
1 handed sideline catch
ATL challenging
Oh nvm he's out
Damn, so close to an insane highlight
plush jungle
I don't know why but I don't mind the Falcons losing
fleet orbit
it might be a rainy game in washington tonight
dim kettle
Yes but I still disliked him and those teams
I like to think of it like a bad guy (heel) in pro wrestling. Lots of things to hate about them, and then your favorites humiliate them. It's like Tampa against the Bruins.
rustic ore
That's gonna be a good challenge
rustic mountain
I like to think of it like a bad guy (heel) in pro wrestling. Lots of things to ...
You're probs right, good analogy
fleet orbit
@dim kettle idk if he’ll do it but if i’m ben , i put some 12 personnel formations into the playbook tonight
rustic mountain
I remember back in 2007, the Steelers had a rookie db named Anthony Smith who was running his mouth about how we werent special or shutting down Randy. We torched that defense and him specifically over and over. So satisfying
fleet orbit
i kinda don’t want it with rodgers but i miss when the steelers were elite
rustic mountain
I don't
rustic ore
https://fixupx.com/ustadium/status/1977861972247887876?s=46 @robust grotto
rustic mountain
They can stay bad for years
dim kettle
I like to think of it like a bad guy (heel) in pro wrestling. Lots of things to ...
Tom Brady and Bill unloading on the Steelers in important games:
rustic ore
Unironically could see him getting moved
fleet orbit
i think breece will be traded
robust grotto
going to be mad interesting
rustic mountain
Tom Brady and Bill unloading on the Steelers in important games:
Flea flicker to Chris Hogan in an afc title game, deep bomb to Deion Branch in a title game, Drew Bledsoe coming into beat em in a title game. They really just liked getting beat in title games
rustic ore
Jeez, Bijan lit up
fleet orbit
going to be mad interesting
would you say maybe 4th rounder ?