sports

[smoky fable]

They broke it

[chilly flare]

Embarassing for the cowboys

[weak gull]

I love it

[rustic lichen]

They too afraid of the stadium falling on them

Is this more embarrassing than the lions L?

[dim kettle]

The Cowboys were basically trapped once Dak got paid. It's like the Washington Capitals when they signed Ovi for 9 mil despite being in his late 30s and on the decline. You can only just "compete" at this point.

[raven vale]

Lol not jerry jones clasping his hands in sorrow

6th home game in a row trailing by 20+

[rustic lichen]

Man Jerry wtf are you gonna do now

[dim kettle]

Reminder. Dak is 31. How much better can he really get? There's only slow decline from here.

[chilly flare]

Cowboys are going on a 3-4 year mediocre to bad run

[raven vale]

Given the last few years I wouldn't call this bad

[rustic ore]

You saw that tweet too?

[raven vale]

This is dismal

[rustic ore]

Yeah this is new for me, I'm not used to Dallas being THIS ass

Like not even Garrett was this bad

[dim kettle]

I can only think of the early 2000s the last time you could say it was hopeless.

[raven vale]

Like all the stars aligned for the cowboys to be absolutely terrible this year

[chilly flare]

Garrett was good for 7 to 9 wins

[rustic ore]

How he made it through 3 straight 8-8 seasons is beyond me

[smoky fable]

https://x.com/toddarcher/status/1858728266737041692?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1858728266737041692|twgr^3eaa810ab5fbaa2bba956483befc982cf901542e|twcon^s1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2F1guozow%2F%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dtrue

Todd Archer (@toddarcher) on X

Trailing, 34-10, with 3:16 to play, the Cowboys have now trailed by at least 20 points in six straight home games, dating back to last year's playoffs, building on their NFL record.

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 4:25 AM

Cowboys have continued to make history

[dim kettle]

Not even that. That's without knowing the full context of each season. Cowboys had a shot in every 8-8 season to win the division and choked it away.

[torn gale]

I SURVIVE

BY THE SKIN OF MY TEETH

[raven vale]

Think it'll be like 2015?

[chilly flare]

https://fixupx.com/ian37882/status/1858725251577782528?s=46&t=5rvyrYo0vGxfpJknEwN5tw

[rustic ore]

I'm shocked they didn't call OPI there, damn near looked like Mingo tackled that DB

[raven vale]

34-10

[rustic ore]

Classic

[celest zephyr]

This is a fantasy season from hell for me

[smoky fable]

Congratulations

Does that help you in fantasy

[celest zephyr]

5 losses by single digits

Just frustrating

[dim kettle]

People like to shit on Jerry for the drafts and what not. But that's not really the major problem. It was Romo's inability to win big games consistently when it mattered most and just the head coach over the years, including now. Think about it. The closest they looked like an elite team for more than a year (Looking at you 2014 and 2016) It was built by Bill Parcells.

[restive vector]

I think the cowboys are worse than the giants no

[torn gale]

Barely. I might move up one spot at best

I need to win out

[celest zephyr]

Fucking misery

[torn gale]

Next week is a play in game

[dim kettle]

https://x.com/YahooSports/status/1858731210735849688

Yahoo Sports (@YahooSports) on X

Wins at AT&T Stadium this year:

Jake Paul: 1
Cowboys: 0

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 4:37 AM

[rustic ore]

Gross

[dim kettle]

https://x.com/OrlandoMagic/status/1858731687611335058

Orlando Magic (@OrlandoMagic) on X

Franz Wagner in his last seven games:

28 pts, 8 reb, 6 ast
27 pts, 5 reb, 6 ast
23 pts, 4 reb, 7 ast
32 pts, 8 reb, 5 ast, 3 stl
29 pts, 3 reb, 6 ast
31 pts, 11 reb, 6 ast
32 pts, 5 reb, 8 ast

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 4:39 AM

[raven vale]

Eugh

[torn gale]

Me vs Ray next week is a play in game

@modest totem I’ve come for revenge

[rustic ore]

That's my German 🥹

[dim kettle]

Thank our friends, Chicago for the pick always

[celest zephyr]

Good luck zoro for the rest of the season

[torn gale]

Thanks

Sorry about your team

[celest zephyr]

I’m going to try to play spoiler for what ever is left of it

It sucks but nothing I can do about it now

[torn gale]

That’s the right mentality

[celest zephyr]

Just gotta try to build any positive momentum for next season

[torn gale]

I’ve gotten unlucky but not as unlucky as you

[raven vale]

Not stroud feeling himself and still hanging with his fans on the field

[dim kettle]

https://x.com/YahooSports/status/1858732373669802472

Yahoo Sports (@YahooSports) on X

The Cowboys have scored 25 points in their last three home games 😧

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 4:41 AM

[restive vector]

The stars outscoring the cowboys last week told me all I need to know about the season

[dim kettle]

I just don't know what the direction is for Dallas. Just a mess.

[raven vale]

Thats whats getting me too

Like its one thing to watch the cowboys be ass

But it feels like nothings being done

[rustic ore]

Know it won't happen and Dallas would desperately want to avoid a Khalil Mack to the Bears kinda situation but honestly, trading Parsons for a couple 1s could really help their team overall

[dim kettle]

I think it says enough that we go back to January when the Cowboys got humiliated by Jordan Love and the Pack and nothing was done about it. HC kept his job, not many moves were made, nothing.

[rustic ore]

https://tenor.com/view/all-in-poker-cards-teddy-kgb-john-malkovich-gif-995328625082152070

[raven vale]

Somehow jerry thought more money would solve the problem

and lo and behold it didn't, now we just have a qb having a contract worth well more than what he's shown

[dim kettle]

It just reminds me of the Bengals after losing in that playoff game against the Steelers. Just little accountability and delusion that everything is fine.

[rustic ore]

And the one area he should've spent money towards he didn't: ||Stadium blinds ||

[raven vale]

Also big ass stadium lights which idk what that's for besides disorienting the players on field

[rustic ore]

Pretty sure it's sunlight and not lights inside the stadium

[raven vale]

Oh

[honest umbra]

Why doesn’t he just turn the sun off?

[raven vale]

I'm sure he's just waiting for the sun to coordinate itself but much like the o-line, it ain't happening

[dim kettle]

He's trying his hardest to contact Marvin the Martian as we speak.

[rustic ore]

[raven vale]

Oh I see

Or rather can't see

[rustic ore]

Seriously, what kind of smooth brain thought that putting windows in the direction the sun sets would be a smart idea?

[torn gale]

Jerruh

[rustic ore]

Better yet why face the stadium east-west? North-south is perfect with a roof

[dim kettle]

I always remember the old Texas Stadium. The sun shined down from the Gods. And Jerry with this AT&T Stadium is like, "I want the sun to go the other way."

[raven vale]

"The sun never sets on the Dallas Cowboys"

[modest totem]

Holy shit! Congrats!!!

[smoky fable]

Congrats

You’re on your way to playoffs

Team is a juggernaut

Picked up a lot of viable running backs

[modest totem]

Hold up lemme scope this out

[modest totem]

Yeah! Only to lose to you right away 😂😂😂

[smoky fable]

Allen is on a bye for you

You need a qb

And the trade deadline passed

[torn gale]

I’m gonna pull off a playoff Eli

[smoky fable]

Richardson or Geno might be your best fantasy guys to get

[modest totem]

I scored 152 this week and had 4 players under perform. If they would've done at least what they were projected i would've scored so high

[torn gale]

I scored 93 and damn near everyone underperformed

I’m gonna win this week

[modest totem]

Yo is Even still playing fantasy? He had a few bye players this week

[torn gale]

No

He’s busy

[smoky fable]

I need you to beat Juba in week 13

I want the one seed

[raven vale]

Yknow come to think of it the last time I actually participated in fantasy was with my high school acapella choir (21-22 I think)

[torn gale]

My revenge on him will be sweet too

[modest totem]

@dim ledge Holy shit your team kicked ass this week!

[smoky fable]

https://fixupx.com/MarkBerman_/status/1858729027151810879

[solid dagger]

Genoa just sacked Gilardino bruh

First team to get relegated to Serie B here we go

Such a stupid decision

[celest zephyr]

Finally a win

[dense blade]

tier 1 source btw
https://x.com/AnfieldEdition/status/1858857583475404953?t=j8e7KYyHNdJDxkIatlHdPA&s=19

Anfield Edition (@AnfieldEdition) on X

🎖️| Jurgen Klopp discussed the possibility of replacing Mohamed Salah with Antony two summers ago. [@_pauljoyce]

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 12:59 PM

[robust grotto]

Lmao jeeez

Well they’ll get Kudus now so good for them

[dense blade]

oh they 100% thought he was gonna win the ballon d'or
https://x.com/netflix/status/1858873029226373232?t=lpWAC0twxxqgRkhpLrrGfQ&s=19

Netflix (@netflix) on X

Vini Jr., a documentary about the life and career of the 24-year-old Brazilian football idol, is coming to Netflix in 2025.

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 2:00 PM

[robust grotto]

Kudus looks defeated. Can’t wait to leave the club, in my opinion

[dense blade]

Kudus looks average to me compared to Salah ofc

[robust grotto]

Ofc

But you have to understand he’s doesn’t play on the right with us, and he wants / likes to be on the right

Not saying he’s going to be close to Salah but put him on the right with LFC’s talent and whew

[slow violet]

WTF hes 24

i feel like i saw this dude for 10 years

[dense blade]

well he's been with madrid since 16-17 iirc

Actually he joined Madrid when he was 18 but he was always linked with them since the beginning of his career because of neymar comparisons

[modest totem]

Yeah are you still playing too? 😅

[noble fractal]

someone said san marino had more victories then atsenal and city combined this month

[torn gale]

KYLE MCCORDDDDDDDD

[smoky fable]

???

What's with the name drop

Did Syracuse do something

[torn gale]

No

I just need him to beat Miami

Also the Clemson sc game is a fucking noon game so i don’t think i want to go

Why are we playing citadel later in the day than them

[smoky fable]

Ah. That's it

[torn gale]

Not ideal. Need to tank better and for the earlier teams to win

[smoky fable]

Titans raiders and browns are your biggest threats

[dim kettle]

https://x.com/snyyankees/status/1858914395088212271

Yankees Videos (@snyyankees) on X

Juan Soto will reject the $21.05M qualifying offer from the Yankees, per @JonHeyman

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 4:45 PM

Shocker

[robust grotto]

No runaway team this year

[desert palm]

What a surprise

Wow

#allthesarcasm

[dim kettle]

The Rays about to sign Soto for 23 mil 2 years.

[desert palm]

MLB Lottery Odds
First overall pick

22.45 percent -- Rockies (.377)
22.45 -- Marlins (.383)
17.96 -- Angels (.389)
10.20 -- Nationals (.438)
7.48 -- Blue Jays (.457)
5.31 -- Pirates (.469)
3.67 -- Reds (.475)
2.45 -- Rangers (.481)
1.90 -- Giants (.494)
1.50 -- Rays (.494)
1.22 -- Red Sox (.500)
1.09 -- Twins (.506)
0.82 -- Cardinals (.512)
0.68 -- Cubs (.512)
0.53 -- Mariners (.525)
0.27 -- D-backs (.549)
0.0 -- White Sox (.253 – ineligible for lottery pick)
0.0 -- A’s (.426 – ineligible for lottery pick)

[dim kettle]

I love being reminded the White Sox can't get a top 5 pick. #FuckYouReinsdorf

[desert palm]

Rest of odds, but bear in mind that this doesn’t count for the two team teams are ineligible for the lottery

[dim kettle]

I swear if the Rays bullshit to the first pick.

https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1858920786347614295

Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) on X

More change in New York: Jets now have fired GM Joe Douglas, sources tell ESPN.

Last month, head coach Robert Saleh. Now, Douglas.

It’s a complete reboot for the Jets.

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 5:10 PM

It has happened.

[weak gull]

Time to prep my resumé

[dim kettle]

No. Vinny you can't clone Dan Campbell and make him the HC of the Jets.

[weak gull]

Sports chat- yall think we could collectively run the jets?

[weak gull]

Woody will definitely splurge to see if it’s possible

[dim kettle]

Rehire Adam Gase to a lifetime contract. That's what I'll do

[robust grotto]

Ew. Those are terrible @burnt cedar @dim ledge

[celest zephyr]

I wouldn’t be this sad if I wasn’t at least trying every week pretty much

[desert palm]

You can’t Jet better than this

To Err is human

To Jet is Eternal

Another successful Butt fumble

[modest totem]

You still have a few weeks to go!

[celest zephyr]

Fair enough

I can still win the toilet bowl

I’m going to stop reading sleeper comments

Just makes it worse

[dim kettle]

People always talk about these QBs but never talk about Johnny Unitas on the Chargers or Joe Namath on the Rams. What about them? exactly

[smoky fable]

https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1858920786347614295?s=46

Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) on X

More change in New York: Jets now have fired GM Joe Douglas, sources tell ESPN.

Last month, head coach Robert Saleh. Now, Douglas.

It’s a complete reboot for the Jets.

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 5:10 PM

@robust grotto

[weak gull]

The Sleeper comments are hilarious dude

[modest totem]

Like on players? Lol I never read comments 😅

[smoky fable]

It's helped you with your approach

[celest zephyr]

They are funny but it’s just worse when I made decisions because of them

Like dropping Deebo

[weak gull]

DROPPING DEEBO?😭😭

[smoky fable]

I advise you to stop doing that

you can't drop players like this

I know Deebo has been in a slump but still

[modest totem]

I don't read them 😅 i just look at the stats, what team they're on, who they're going to play, stuff like that

[celest zephyr]

Tbh other than Deebo I’m cool with the rest

[smoky fable]

Just draft your favorite players every year

[celest zephyr]

The tes I got were only putting a few points week by week anyways

Getting guys who can get 6-8 are usually available on waivers anyways

Should have kept 2 instead of only 1 but ah well

Gotta do it next time

Goodson was ass anyways

[modest totem]

This year I drafted Josh Allen in the first round, which I'm still happy with my decision. But if I could go back and got a chance for Jamarr Chase, I'd get him 😂

[celest zephyr]

Also tank dell

Yeah I’m too impulsive

Tried to fix my team and went overboard

Too emotional

Frustration boiled over

[modest totem]

It sucks when you have a player that is potentially supposed to do well then they suck

[smoky fable]

or get hurt

or both

[modest totem]

Yes!

[celest zephyr]

Yep

[robust grotto]

Told y’all

The Adams trade was the highlight of Douglas

[desert palm]

https://youtu.be/fVBHaYj7LqQ?si=bjktDAcCZixfm_Iq

[robust grotto]

Missed out on head coach twice

[celest zephyr]

RBs are so important

Way more than wrs

It’s so hard to find even passable RBs on waivers

Plus they are insanely injury prone

[smoky fable]

Can't screw up the GM and head coach with Rodgers probably retiring next year. Commit to a rebuild

[robust grotto]

That’s it. They have to start over

[smoky fable]

I advise next time if you're drafting high to get a running back in an offensive system that has a good OC

or stack up on them and draft receivers and qbs later

[smoky fable]

https://x.com/Jason_OTC/status/1858927250407653456

Jason_OTC (@Jason_OTC) on X

Yes firing coaches and GMs can get you an early start of sorts, but most of the people you will be hiring are all working for another team right now. I think this one just makes the team look bad since there are only 7 weeks left in the year and it serves no purpose other than

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 5:36 PM

[smoky fable]

Wasting a pick on Adams is costly for the new GM. That's rough

[rustic ore]

Somebody save G5 please

[desert palm]

Great video as to why MLB is the way it is @glass compass

[celest zephyr]

Yeah fair enough

[smoky fable]

https://x.com/AlbertBreer/status/1858926289522225416

Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) on X

Some more from Halloween night on the issues in the @NYJets building. There are people who've worked there who feel like what's said on the internet influences decision-making. Non-football people have big voices.

Those who've tried to change it run into this stuff constantly.

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 5:32 PM

[celest zephyr]

Lamb was still a good pick but I should have taken achane Henry or walker in round 2 instead of Adams especially with how shit the raiders offence is

Honestly could have doubled up with Pacheco and one of those three

[smoky fable]

adams kind of sunk you

[celest zephyr]

For sure

It was brutal

Pacheco on ir

Andrews blowing early season

Zamir white sucked. Got caught up in the hype there

[robust grotto]

I know what he’s saying but everyone on earth that’s connected to football know the jets not only look bad, but are bad. So idk

[celest zephyr]

Trevor Lawrence sucked and I took two fliers at the end which didn’t pan out

[smoky fable]

Dobbins and Chase Brown were the running backs to get that late on in hindsight

Brian Robinson too

I forgot who chose him cause he thought it was Bijan

and they had to reverse it

[celest zephyr]

Love pick was risky but worked out. Ridley Aubrey and McLauren were good

Yeah for sure

I took two risks

Should have taken one at most and then a solid rb

[smoky fable]

The rebuild will be tough Lunik. That's all I got to say.

[robust grotto]

Would you rather be in the jets shoes or giants shoes

Who becomes relevant first

[smoky fable]

Giants have more of an avenue to get out of this

But both have questionable owners

https://x.com/JuMosq/status/1858924336616534412

Justis Mosqueda (@JuMosq) on X

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 5:24 PM

[robust grotto]

Giants have less talent at the present

[smoky fable]

Nabers, Dexter Lawrence, their draft class with other rookies in Tracy?

[robust grotto]

Jets D has regressed so maybe you’re right

[smoky fable]

They are in a position to get a top qb in Sanders or Ward

[robust grotto]

Sauce became a ghost

[smoky fable]

Ulbrich being in the head coaching role and his replacement DC haven't filled in the gaps

[smoky fable]

I'm shocked that you say that though

[robust grotto]

Really feels that way though

But maybe Daniel Jones is the reason why it feels that way

Scoring 17 is like a major accomplishment for the Giants …

[weak gull]

Forced to agree talking about right now

The jets are more dysfunctional than anything and have old man Rodgers at the helm

[dim kettle]

I feel like this is just another guy who's just looking at it now instead of 10-20 years from now. A salary cap is inevitable. It's only a matter of when.

[rustic ore]

Jets overall roster is better rn than the Giants

[robust grotto]

That’s how I feel, yeah. Just saying rn

[chilly flare]

I feel like it is debatable

[dim kettle]

He also mentions that teams like the Rays, Guards, and other small markets have had success over recent times. Which is such a red herring in the grand scheme of things. Big markets are also doing the same things but can build on them for long periods of time and have greater chances of winning the WS. While teams like the Rays have followed moneyball which has proven to not win WS.

[celest zephyr]

There’s also the white Sox

Which well…

[rustic ore]

Giants better O-line and D-line, Jets better WRs and RBs, Jets QB better (marginally), Giants better LBs, Jets better secondary. ST units are a push for me

I’m willing to move the LB to be a push

[robust grotto]

Jets have also lost a good amount of one possession games

Giants are usually dead and buried

[rustic ore]

Williams and Mosley are a solid duo

[weak gull]

I also think their skill positions just generally are that much better

[dim kettle]

I just think to say MLB will never have a salary cap is just false and coping. Only takes one bad day in the MLBPA to have massive changes. Don't believe me. Ask the NHLPA 20 years ago how well that went.

[rustic ore]

I don’t even know who you poach to try and fix that mess in NY

Ben Johnson for your own sake stay away from that clown show

[dim kettle]

You would have to get someone to fix the culture first and foremost.

Like Tony Dungy did for the Bucs in the 90s

[weak gull]

I think it’s clear he won’t go to a clown show atp

[slow violet]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10144006-report-tyrese-maxey-ripped-joel-embiid-being-late-for-everything-in-76ers-meeting

Joel getting pressed, he better be carful before he tears his knee

[robust grotto]

Yep. They need a Dan Campbell in the FO and as HC

[rustic ore]

I know just the guy https://www.usatoday.com/gcdn/presto/2019/12/28/USAT/c7aa69ef-3326-4310-969a-c3579a230ef5-allen_USP_NFL__Philadelphia_Eagles_at_Washington_Redskin.JPG?crop=1829,1029,x655,y43&width=1829&height=1029&format=pjpg&auto=webp

[dim kettle]

God. I get PTSD looking at this dude.

Him and Gruden ruining the Bucs. A tale as old as time

[smoky fable]

I think Rodgers doesn’t come back next year which is why I argue the giants

And not sure they trade up already had spent a high pick to trade for Adams

Roster wise I agree

But for the future, hard for me to see

[dim kettle]

With the Giants you at least have more opportunity to be a contender at the moment. While the AFC, I mean, count the the names. Allen, Mahomes, Lamar, Burrow.

[sacred kite]

https://vxtwitter.com/StreamOnMax/status/1858934649449234599

[dim kettle]

Tua and the potential of Drake Maye is there too. I'll tell you this who had to see the rest of the NFC South have top 10 QBs for a decade+. It doesn't get easier.

[chilly flare]

Ben Johnson to the giants wouldn’t be bad if they can get a top pick for a QB.

Any chance Bowles could be fired at the end of the year if it goes sideways? I feel like he’s probably safe for another year

[rustic ore]

https://tenor.com/view/the-avengers-marvel-jeremy-renner-clint-barton-hawkeye-gif-17148870

[dim kettle]

It’s not that simple. Fact of the matter is the Bucs have one of the most popular HC candidates in OC Liam Coen. It’s gonna be hard for Bowles to keep his job regardless because his defense sucks.

[robust grotto]

Wow

[noble fractal]

https://twitter.com/SkySportsWSL/status/1858463347575800064?s=19

Sky Sports WSL (@SkySportsWSL) on X

Congratulations to Sam Kerr and Kristie Mewis, who have announced they are having a baby next year!

Twitter · Nov 18, 2024, 10:52 AM

[chilly flare]

Isn’t the defense pretty banged up though?

[noble fractal]

comments closed

I think we need to hang football fans

[robust grotto]

15 year old footy fans can’t grasp that gay people exist

[dim kettle]

It is. But it only exposes the flaws of a defensive scheme more

[noble fractal]

whoever said the worst opinions on twitter come from Lagos,Nigeria was 100% right

[glass compass]

I will watch.

[desert palm]

Great!

[dim kettle]

Still think it's coping to say it will never happen

[glass compass]

You're a cope

[dim kettle]

Like. It's just funny how people see this as a black and white thing. As a small market fan I don't give a shit if my team is "contending" while the Dodgers are taking the Rays ways of thinking and adding onto it to have a better chance of winning the WS. I'd like to keep the guys I have that were built in the system.

If your argument is "But small market teams were 'competing' in the AL playoffs this year" you've missed the plot of the bigger issue. You're in this game to win championships and small markets have proven the way they do things doesn't win you titles consistently. The Royals in the 2014-2015 are the exception to the rule in recent times.

[glass compass]

Talk to em Shadow

I wish I understood but you sound correct

[smoky fable]

https://x.com/JoshNorris/status/1843700728705233010

Josh Norris (@JoshNorris) on X

bad teams stay bad because of ownership

Twitter · Oct 8, 2024, 5:11 PM

[dim kettle]

Imagine the Phins right now. This window they're in to win a title. Let's say a few years from now you have to start paying people that you drafted, mind you and your move as a front office is to trade them for more prospects that you hope will be in the same production that the guy you traded because ownership doesn't want to pay for them. And then the cycle continues. While a team like the Rams who draft the same way you do, re-sign those players they built and then build on top of that with depth likely those same guys you traded away. You

The ideal way to build a baseball team is to build within. Show progression as a team and then build on top of that by signing depth and trades that say you're in a win now mode. The problem is small market teams like the Rays would rather not do that and just hope what they have will be enough to win the WS, and when these faces are in their prime they'll trade them off for more prospects.

[glass compass]

Ah this is problematic.

But can the smaller markets afford to make the big splash signings?

[dim kettle]

They can. But we're faced with another issue. O's for example had a terrible contract in Chris Davis. They face larger consequences with mistakes compared to a Red Sox or Yankees.

They can swallow big contracts much more than small markets.

The video is just another guy telling people a salary floor/salary cap won't happen because one side won't agree with the other while never looking into why the other leagues have caps and the challenges they went through to get those caps. And then throwing the red herring by saying small markets can compete so don't criticize the system right now.

I do agree players have the right to fight to the very end to keep their value and salaries as it is. But football players had the same mindset, basketball players had the same mindset, and hockey players had the same mindset.

[glass compass]

So it's stubbornness?

[dim kettle]

What I think it's gonna happen is a soft salary cap. Doesn't have to be soon. But it will happen. The only problem is the journey to that. The 04-05 NHL season never happened because of the lockout as a result of wanting a salary cap.

[glass compass]

We don't want a lockout

[thorn hornet]

Demirovic is the worst fucking piece of shit striker I've ever had to fucking endure for 25+ games

@noble fractal

That Augsburg season was such a farce

[noble fractal]

real

he missed a pen against frankfurt and it cost us

[thorn hornet]

He's misses like 2 clear goals every game

Can't rely on Dzeko because he is slow

Tabakovic just rots on the bench

[dense blade]

https://x.com/centregoals/status/1858969410138239224?t=avjj_PssGLHBsx958I2I1Q&s=19

CentreGoals. (@centregoals) on X

🚨🚨| GOAL: VIKTOR GYÖKERES WITH A BRACE!!!

Sweden 3-0 Azerbaijan

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 8:23 PM

[robust grotto]

David Moyes said no to him lol

[dense blade]

Just take my money sporting

https://tenor.com/view/take-my-money-heres-my-card-here’s-my-card-card-take-my-card-gif-5650338825958178904

[thorn hornet]

Tahirovic I see why Ajax froze you out

[smoky fable]

https://fixupx.com/Aaron_M_Becker/status/1858966803898397187 @rustic ore

[smoky fable]

another striker coming

[smoky fable]

??????

Crazy

Why did he

[dense blade]

He was playing championship ball at 24

maybe moyes didn't even look at him carefully lol

[robust grotto]

I wish I could tell you guys why

[celest zephyr]

Good energy

[dense blade]

FUCK MY LIFE

https://x.com/centregoals/status/1858973732838220200?t=eP2MLnQH4qSC2JgnwOVO6Q&s=19

CentreGoals. (@centregoals) on X

🚨🚨| BREAKING: Pep Guardiola has AGREED to a new one-year contract as Manchester City manager, with an option for an additional 12 months! 🔵✔️

[@SamLee]

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 8:40 PM

"additional 12 months"

[dim ledge]

This means they beatin the case lol

[dense blade]

yeah probably

[thorn hornet]

Dzeko got 2 goals disallowed

[dense blade]

GYOKERES HATRICK and two more years of pep

what a roller coaster of a day

[thorn hornet]

https://fixupx.com/GFFN/status/1858502145932243108?t=nsTf3wcBk0DwfnKGntCbWw&s=19

Injuries fried his brain

Also he wasn't German, he was Austrian

Demirovic scored SOMEHOW

[slow violet]

lol I am the Trap, Born In It

[sweet tree]

the who guy

funny dude tho

L'allemand...

[dense blade]

Gyokeres vs Isak debate is so fucking over 😭😭

[desert palm]

@robust grotto @dim kettle @rustic ore @hasty mesa

https://x.com/anthonydicomo/status/1858983357075648845?s=46&t=rGTvG5lrcui4PS-5IsoRIQ

Anthony DiComo (@AnthonyDiComo) on X

Source: The Mets have acquired outfielder Jose Siri from the Rays for reliever Eric Orze.

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 9:19 PM

[dim kettle]

This point stands. #sports message

[robust grotto]

Decent player?

OF was an area they need to upgrade

[dim kettle]

I wouldn’t say his defense is the best. But he hits for power

[rapid yoke]

zinchenko cooking in midfield

[dim kettle]

https://x.com/nhlbruins/status/1858983226481799547?s=46&t=6zYeacLKll2-c8XNBTdvnA

Boston Bruins (@NHLBruins) on X

Boston Bruins General Manager Don Sweeney announced today, November 19, that the team has relieved Jim Montgomery of his duties as Head Coach.

Associate Coach Joe Sacco will assume interim head coaching duties.

📰: https://t.co/g6eGJ3bmZx

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 9:18 PM

[robust grotto]

Wtf is going on today. Lots of news

Not sure firing him does anything…

[dim kettle]

The fact this takes place before anything Nashville or Pittsburgh is crazy

[robust grotto]

The roster is disjointed all around. It’s this awkward mix of vets and rookies, with most of the vets being mercenaries really

[rustic ore]

https://tenor.com/view/ha-ha-nelson-the-simpsons-gif-14411011

[dim kettle]

Maybe Boston is ready to gasp rebuild

[robust grotto]

Woaaah calm down now god forbid

[sweet tree]

a poker dang

[desert palm]

@robust grotto Harrison Bader is definitely gone now

lol

[robust grotto]

Yes for sure

Nimmo, Marte, Taylor, Siri, and hopefully Soto. Winker now in question too. Doesn’t look good for McNeil, though he can play 2B

[thorn hornet]

The nightmares, finally over.....

[sweet tree]

Mr. Demirovic got yall a point

[hasty basin]

Fuck int breaks

[sweet tree]

ong

[hasty basin]

I'm so pissed man

[smoky fable]

What happened

[solid dagger]

Was there ever a debate

[solid dagger]

I can't speak for Croco but both Cabal (out for the season) and Vlahovic (I have no idea how long he's gonna be gone for) got injured

Not fun

[celest zephyr]

Insane that a 10-0 team is second in its conference

Fucking nuts

[dense blade]

Yep I think arsenal fans like isak more

https://x.com/centregoals/status/1858989670501408847?t=nROURqu1Ef-2yOyqG5rKtQ&s=19

Ronaldo won an international trophy with this guy 😭😭

CentreGoals. (@centregoals) on X

🇦🇿😬 Not the start Fernando Santos would have expected with the Azerbaijan national team...

❌ Azerbaijan 1-3 Sweden
❌ Slovakia 2-0 Azerbaijan
❌ Estonia 3-1 Azerbaijan
❌ Azerbaijan 1-3 Slovakia
🤝 Azerbaijan 0-0 Estonia
❌ Sweden 6-0 Azerbaijan

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 9:44 PM

[solid dagger]

To be fair Isak is already used to playing in the pl consistently

[hasty basin]

4 games in a row we miss the most terrible chances

Could have won all 4 but instead it was

Loss loss draw loss

[solid dagger]

To be fair Azerbaijan isn't that good

With all due respect

[dense blade]

I always cringe at this "pl proven" thing

[hasty basin]

The only positive I got was our U21 won in euros qualifiers over Croatia

[hasty basin]

There's some truth to it like every league imo

Physicality is important

[solid dagger]

I'm not a fan of that term but he's objectively used to playing in a league with specific tactics and players

[dense blade]

Really don't think it's that important like they make it out to be

[solid dagger]

It takes time to get used to a completely new league

Some players take 0 time (Haaland)

Others might take a long time

[hasty basin]

I experienced it first hand lol

Hamed Traore, amazing player very technical

Just not prem fit

He's going off in Ligue 1 rn

If you watch other league games you'll understand what the problem is

I find it visibly slower in most cases

Prem rarely has those Parejo-esque players now but they're all over Spain

[sweet tree]

most of the best prem players have usually come from other leagues

[dense blade]

I mean I obviously get why that term is used I just don't like it being overused for every player/manager

[hasty basin]

It doesn't have the best academies

It buys the best players

[solid dagger]

Isn't Chelsea's academy one of the best itw?

Man City's and Liverpool's also should be pretty good I think

[hasty basin]

I wouldn't say the best still

[sweet tree]

Arsenal and Chelsea have good ones I think

[hasty basin]

Not saying it has no academy

Chelsea is the outlier

Madrid's academy is good Madrid just doesn't use it a lot

P sure la liga is filled with Castilla talent lol

[sweet tree]

their last good talent was probably Gutierrez

their academy is average but I agree they don't really give their academy players a chance to fully judge

[sweet tree]

they sell them around the league

[hasty basin]

Yeah there's a lot around the league

My RMA friend actually liked one of the castilla players and wanted him to start

Fortea I think is his name

The RB

[thorn hornet]

Isak is the most Arsenal player ever who does not play for us

[thorn hornet]

Ehhh, not really

[dense blade]

I agree

[thorn hornet]

Ajax, Barca, Madrid have good academies

[dense blade]

Madrid academy players were caught child p*rn one year ago lol

[thorn hornet]

City had some good players on their books too in recent years

[thorn hornet]

[solid dagger]

I assume Ajax's academy is also a top one

It feels like they create a couple of great players every year

[dense blade]

United academy is doing good nowadays too since winning the u19 fa cup in 2021

[thorn hornet]

Serie A clubs just toss their academy players around like they are exchanging stickers at the playground

Which I find funny

You would see a player who is 26 and he has like 7 loans to his name

[hasty basin]

Ligue 1 is also good

[thorn hornet]

And he's still there, last year on his contract

[hasty basin]

For talent

[thorn hornet]

Championship have some good ones

Rogers, Rowe, Scott...

[hasty basin]

I just think it's more rare than people think

For the Championship

Like watching an average Championship game is so awful

[thorn hornet]

In recent years they had some bangers

[hasty basin]

Fun for like hey look ping pong football no robotic bs

But uhh quality wise

[dense blade]

Wrexham might be in the championship next season

[hasty basin]

Man City of EFL

[slow violet]

This new Explore on Twitter is so nice TBH

😭 it finally shows only things i care about

[sweet tree]

i kinda like and don't at the same time

[slow violet]

its not perfect but its 100% better than what the trending page is

lol literally 99% was politics which idgaf about 😭

[hasty basin]

https://x.com/WhoScored/status/1858899282906280285 Salah 😭

WhoScored.com (@WhoScored) on X

#BHAFC midfielder Carlos Baleba is the Premier League's most improved player so far this season. ⚔️

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 3:45 PM

[dense blade]

Twitter trending page has always been shit tbf

It's all just bots tweeting the same hashtag with copy pasted tweets

[slow violet]

big facts

[hasty basin]

https://x.com/GeorgianFooty/status/1858994281442406434 Dawg

Georgian Footy (@GeorgianFooty) on X

🇬🇪❌Georgia to miss 4 players in Nations League relegation playoffs due to yellow card suspensions:

- Khvicha Kvaratskhelia
- Georges Mikautadze
- Guram Kashia
- Luka Lochoshvili

3/4 were shown for Dissent...

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 10:02 PM

We'll lose against Slovakia if it's like this

[dense blade]

damn

[hasty basin]

2 of them were end of the game fights btw

(Kvara and Kashia)

Literally our captain and our most important player 😭

[celest zephyr]

twitter has always been shit

my bad elon has called and told me to call it x

[dense blade]

You are right but twitter before Elon was much better and i preferred it over any other platform

[solid dagger]

That's because there's a shit mentality here where you're seen as a baby until you're 25

Donnarumma debuted at 16 at Milan only because they literally had no other options in goal

A player like Chiesa was still considered a young talent until like a couple of seasons ago

And he was 24 I think

The average Serie A fan complains that there aren't any good young italian players but also trashes said young italians as soon as they have a bad game

[dim ledge]

Yep

It's unbearable under Elon lol everything that was shit about the app just magnified 4x

[dense blade]

Before Elon i believe the racist/homophobic/sexist tweets were at least not reaching the bigger audience so the page was just your followed sports accounts which was really good

now there's a "for you" in which for all weird things and you can't see who even likes those tweets so you can block/mute them

[dim ledge]

That's obviously the big caveat

Then there's, especially w the sports tweets

The accounts that just comment "wow" "👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼" "amazing" "great win" like 4 times under the same post lmao

[dense blade]

That's why monetising the platform was such a big mistake

Blue tick used to mean something lol

[hollow wind]

Yo fantasy peeps, sorry for being so inactive with roster and trades. Been away for a bit but I’m back and will adjust everything I need to now. Hopefully some of you got a free win against my ass lol

[robust grotto]

Elon good

https://tenor.com/view/eddie-murphy-vacation-time-champagne-sunshine-lol-gif-12104233

[smoky fable]

It’s nice to see you back.

Congrats on the dodgers winning

[desert palm]

@silk pine Steven Vogt wins the AL Manager of the year!!!

https://x.com/mlbnetwork/status/1859015150352937147?s=46&t=ghF_dKEjCP_v6tsszHZ_2A

MLB Network (@MLBNetwork) on X

Stephen Vogt is the 2024 AL Manager of the Year Award winner!

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 11:25 PM

Wow

https://x.com/feinsand/status/1859015795277525088?s=46&t=ghF_dKEjCP_v6tsszHZ_2A

Mark Feinsand (@Feinsand) on X

Cleveland’s Stephen Vogt wins AL Manager of the Year, receiving 27 of the 30 first-place votes. Here’s the full vote:

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 11:27 PM

[smoky fable]

Just cut Godwin and Shaheed since they’re out for the future and start JSN and Kittle.

But you’re back for the Indiana OSU game this week

[hollow wind]

ty and dude omg, felt so good. That comeback game 6 win and Freddie's walk off grand slam are forever ingrained in my memory

[desert palm]

@weak gull Im surprised not hinch

[hollow wind]

jeez yea

[desert palm]

Game 5 win you mean

😢

[smoky fable]

Yeah it didn’t go 5 past games

[hollow wind]

Game 5 yea

[desert palm]

😞

[smoky fable]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-sadness-pet-head-caterpie-sad-gif-16792400

[desert palm]

Btw

[hollow wind]

Even with Shohei not doing much this team played their ass off

[smoky fable]

If they get Juan Soto…..

[desert palm]

@dim kettle @rustic ore

Pinellas County Commission voted to delay the vote again to middle December

[dim kettle]

Stu letter was funny

[desert palm]

Something which gives Stu another reason

To move

[hollow wind]

I doubt it but imagine lol. Aren't the Mets kind of the favorite atm or are there other landing spots getting talked about?

[desert palm]

Allegedly, Mets have already made an offer of over 600 million

[hollow wind]

insanity

[celest zephyr]

OFC you show up right before i play you

Fml

[hollow wind]

LOL

[celest zephyr]

Worst season ever

Days of sleeper

[weak gull]

https://tenor.com/view/shake-my-head-mark-philips-rdcworld1-disappointed-nope-gif-12480911180809665866

[rustic ore]

Oops, wrong gif

[smoky fable]

Buc?

[smoky fable]

Damn

Was wondering what that was

[rustic ore]

Trying to do something funny but mobile discord is ass

Guess I’ll just have to wait till I get home

[robust grotto]

Steve is 100% right, they actually made the goaltending equipment smaller a few years back

[dim ledge]

@robust grotto

Cc @thorn hornet

[slow violet]

https://x.com/TomPelissero/status/1858989613035200683

Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) on X

The NFL has suspended #Cardinals LB Markus Bailey for the next six games.

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 9:43 PM

[robust grotto]

Casual 2 day stretch

Now I need to find out the beef between Romania and Kosovo

[desert palm]

@short flame

https://x.com/mlb/status/1859022010527215664?s=46

MLB (@MLB) on X

The NL Manager of the Year Award winner is Pat Murphy of the @Brewers!

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 11:52 PM

[robust grotto]

Lol

[desert palm]

Congrats to the Brewers Manager!!!!!!

[robust grotto]

They refuse to give the Mets anything @desert palm

[desert palm]

https://x.com/feinsand/status/1859022564066291777?s=46

Mark Feinsand (@Feinsand) on X

Here’s the full NL Manager of the Year vote:

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 11:54 PM

[robust grotto]

11 games back and still made the playoffs but yeah congrats to Milwaukee

1 first place vote for a rookie manager who pulled off a comeback for the ages

Thank you MLB voters

[short flame]

Congratulations coach

[short flame]

Man I think I told you this summer to buy cordoba, Colombian striker at west ham

I’m sorry for ever suggesting him

He’s horrendous

[desert palm]

@smoky fable Torey votes?

[robust grotto]

We are the worst, sadly

Fullkrug and Rodriguez already want to leave west ham lol

It’s November

[smoky fable]

Waste of votes

[short flame]

He turned into prime lukaku

I’m so mad right now

[short flame]

Oh I know. Do a swap deal with Rayo

Rodriguez for Rodriguez

[short flame]

They gotta solve this. So many games I’ve seen this season with keepers with less than 0.8

From both squads

[hasty basin]

Fullkrug was such a weird signing

Sure at first glance you're like "that's such a West Ham signing" but he really aint

[short flame]

Any chance you can send sini to Colombia in the next 15 minutes

[hasty basin]

He's on his way

You'll be fine Ecuador got a red

What is this run of form though

Since the Argentina game

[short flame]

Our striker is so bad though

Can you check a player’s xg?

[hasty basin]

Sofascore doesn't keep track of xG for games like this but he has

2 big chances missed

[short flame]

Make that 5

[short flame]

Weird only for unimportant games?

[hasty basin]

Think it's not for qualifiers

[short flame]

I am fine with the Bolivia game but the rest has been appalling

[short flame]

Make that 6

[hasty basin]

Dw Duran will sub on

[short flame]

Now please

[novel slate]

celtics court is so ugly

[dim ledge]

Good

"People" from Boston don't deserve nice things

[hasty basin]

https://tenor.com/view/scout-tf2-scout-tf2-balls-gif-16390308937108692826

Scout is from Boston 😔

[dim ledge]

Good on him for getting out

[short flame]

He’s on what’s he doing . Oh another easy chance missed by cordoba. 7 now

[robust grotto]

I know what you mean. The majority of the league has a goalie problem

[dim ledge]

Don't worry I got you

[robust grotto]

My favorite

[dense blade]

this is so cool
https://x.com/AniNewsAndFacts/status/1858930243345547268?t=q6U6lfzJ7PhSZt2R_SazbA&s=19

Anime News And Facts (@AniNewsAndFacts) on X

The Poster that Chinese used for today's China Vs Japan Football match at Fifa 2026 Asian Qualifiers.

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 5:48 PM

[rustic lichen]

UPDATED College Football rankings that just dropped less than an hour ago.

First impressions?

[torn gale]

2 loss sec teams

It just means more

[slow violet]

chat is Oregon really that good or is it just hype

i don't want to see them play an SEC team and get boat raced

[torn gale]

They’re good. They have bad moments

But every team looks fraudulent this year

There hasn’t been a single team that looks great every single week

[silk pine]

[torn gale]

Oregon would beat every sec team most likely

[slow violet]

really

[rustic lichen]

The fact Missouri is still in the top 25 but LSU isn’t is fucking wild

[torn gale]

I do think they absolutely are the best team in the nation

[torn gale]

I didn’t even peep that lol

Why are they ranked

[rustic lichen]

I mean I get it

But like I also kinda don’t

[slow violet]

i hope your right, i just don't want to see Alabma vs Oregon end in like 49-5

[torn gale]

It’s so funny that the 2 loss sec teams most impressive wins being amongst themselves is what’s keeping them above 1 loss and undefeated conference champion contenders

[torn gale]

You don’t need to worry about that at all. Don’t let the lsu game fool you

We are not a good football team

[rustic lichen]

If the CFP started today, Alabama would dogstomp Notre Dame and then probably play a hella good game against Oregon

Dunno who’d win

[torn gale]

I don’t think Alabama is capable of dominating any of these top teams

[slow violet]

i guess we wait and see

lol but iv been hurt by CFB too long to trust it

[rustic lichen]

I’m praying to whatever football gods there might be

Please let Army beat Notre Dame on Saturday

It would be so funny

[torn gale]

As long as Alabama and Georgia don’t win I don’t really care

[rustic lichen]

BYU should not still be in the CFP bracket lmao

Boise State took their bye now

[torn gale]

I need Miami to lose

One game

[rustic lichen]

Ion think Wake Forest or Syracuse is gonna beat em blud 💀

Those are the only two left

[novel slate]

cavs regular season merchants as expected

[torn gale]

They have a bunch of injuries

[weak gull]

You put too much stock in bama boss😭

Last year you told me I was crazy for thinking Michigan would beat them

[slow violet]

nah its not just bama, I just don't want to see hyped teams like play an SEC team in a big game and get absolutly boat raced 😭 its boring

and iv seen it happen too many times for me not to be skeptical

[weak gull]

It happens when the talent discrepancy is clear…I don’t think there is a clear discrepancy at all

Also- for as many times an sec team (let’s be real UGA and Bama, LSU had one fabulous year in between in recent memory) has boat raced someone

There have been plenty of competitive games vs them as well

Clemson, OSU, Michigan, Oklahoma have given all of them good games or won

[rustic mountain]

Oregon looks legit Idk why there is fear about them

This isn't TCU that one year

[novel slate]

celtics bums

3pt merchants same as in the finals

sold the lead for no reason

[weak gull]

Definitely could, highly doubt folks expected GT to do it as well

[chilly flare]

Syracuse could give them a game for sure

[desert palm]

lol

[novel slate]

richard the goat of basketball bruh

[slow violet]

thats fair, lol i guess i am unlucky, anytime i watch a big CFB game someone getting boat raced

[torn gale]

When is Jaylen brown not offensive fouling

[novel slate]

celtics role players more clutch than the stars

[torn gale]

I’m so sick of every player on that team

Organization

Fanbase

[novel slate]

on or off court

[torn gale]

Both

[novel slate]

respect white

[torn gale]

No

[novel slate]

cleaveland potential round 2 exists

[torn gale]

They’re winning the East

[novel slate]

hell no

spida mad as hell lmao

[torn gale]

ADS

ADVERTISMENTS

[novel slate]

buddy

pirate

[torn gale]

Not going all that for the tv

[novel slate]

mirror your phone onto the tv

[novel slate]

https://tenor.com/view/celtics-gif-9806389

[torn gale]

America loses

[novel slate]

i wanted that streak to end

[smoky fable]

https://x.com/DMRussini/status/1859060556583301280

Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) on X

After losing to Denver, Woody Johnson suggested in a contentious meeting that they bench Rodgers because he felt the 4x MVP’s performance wasn’t playing well.
The coaches pushed back and asked each other if he was serious.
More from @ZackBlatt and me
https://t.co/YTnhOjz1bu

Twitter · Nov 20, 2024, 2:25 AM

[torn gale]

Bench Rodgers for….

Is this guy real

I’m sure tyrod Taylor will unlock something in this team that Rodgers can’t

[chilly flare]

Taylor won't have the team take psychedelics pregame

[smoky fable]

https://t.co/YTnhOjz1bu

@rustic ore

It’s pretty damning

Used the reader mode

[dim kettle]

And this is why they haven't made the playoffs in 14 years.

Shit like that.

https://fixupx.com/HockeyDaily365/status/1859063455627522417

LOLJarry

[rustic mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-harvey-nice-pink-hat-pimp-mustache-gif-24084822

[smoky fable]

They’re stuck with a terrible owner

[rustic mountain]

Glorious

Just glorious

[slow violet]

philly fans hella funny 😭 conspiracies on point

[rancid thicket]

Who's fans of NBA here? Dang Lakers got a gem on DK

[honest umbra]

he went off

22 straight

9 3’s

we drafted a gem

[rancid thicket]

he's cold shooter

[rancid thicket]

AD and James got a good 3rd option on DK/Reaves

[hasty basin]

Hartenstein come back already dawg

[thorn hornet]

Thats just perfectly normal

Nature is healing

[sweet tree]

DK with most points by a rookie this season

nuts

9 3s...

[hasty basin]

Jared Mccain still my ROTY

https://tenor.com/view/jared-sixers-76ers-nba-draft-gif-9577630967516132674

My Duke GOAT

https://x.com/bballforever_/status/1858835109916381564?s=46&t=MJZzB_0WoFdV7_sxhGtgmg

Basketball Forever (@bballforever_) on X

With Nikola Jokić off the floor, the Denver Nuggets' offensive rating is 86.3 - the worst in NBA history.

With Jokić on the floor, their offensive rating is 125.8 - the best in NBA history.

CRAZY 🤯

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 11:30 AM

[glass compass]

Knect4 for ROTY

[celest zephyr]

It’s nuts

Jokic is the next lebron

Just bonkers impact

Regardless of the stats

[dense blade]

I am 99% sure Southampton is running a money laundering fraud with city

[hollow wind]

I can’t believe he fell to us. Teams saw his age and passed

And now we have another starter

[robust grotto]

Oh my fucking GOODNESS I just drove past THE NJ Italian caricature … stepping out his car, parked next to the popular Italian bakery, a thin but tall old man.. fully decked out in a track suit - top to bottom - with multiple gold chains, slicked gray hair, and sunglasses even though it’s cloudy today

I WISH I took a picture for you guys

It was cartoon level stuff

[smoky fable]

did you get a lobster tail or cannoli there

[robust grotto]

Hahaha this guy is probably ordering a pie and cannolis for thanksgiving

Who knows though. Too funny

[celest zephyr]

I saw a guy recently that looked the exact same

Granted with a cane and no sunglasses

[rustic ore]

Welcome back homie

Hope all has been well irl

[celest zephyr]

But sweatsuit chain and slicked gray hair

The works

[celest zephyr]

Sup Evan. How are you doing?

[rancid thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/dalton-knecht-knecht-dalton-lakers-gif-6586498308849098377

[robust grotto]

What a look

[desert flame]

True

[robust grotto]

2025 Winter Classic kits

[amber wind]

Never compare jokic to lemickey

He's better

[rustic ore]

https://x.com/shrinebowl/status/1859225235217621154?s=46 @weak gull

East-West Shrine Bowl (@ShrineBowl) on X

Showtime ⌚️

QB Shedeur Sanders (@ShedeurSanders) from @CUBuffsFootball has officially accepted his invite to the 100th East-West #ShrineBowl!

#GoBuffs | #ShrineBowlWHOSNEXT 😎

Twitter · Nov 20, 2024, 1:20 PM

Might be the most viewed Shrine Game ever?

[dim ledge]

Did we not literally just have this matchup not too long ago?

[dim kettle]

https://x.com/BearsPurgatory/status/1858344767332974765

Robert (@BearsPurgatory) on X

In your opinion, what’s the main cause for this? #NBA

Twitter · Nov 18, 2024, 3:01 AM

One reason and it's the same for the NHL the last few years. Just the lack of compelling rivalries. There's not one great team rivalry or player rivalry in the league rn.

[dim ledge]

NBA's problem is they let people make superteams too much

So you had

1. Super teams
2. Good but top heavy teams that somehow would beat the super teams
3. 50-50s that made playoffs
4. Meme tier teams

[sweet tree]

Adam silver said it was cause of the election lol

[dim kettle]

I think there's a lot of problems. It's not as physical. Too much emphasis on the 3 pointer. Lack of must-see stars.

[robust grotto]

Correct. They’re running out of venues now. Second time for Wrigley Field

[dim kettle]

He could've said his explanation was on load management and couldn't be said rn and that probably would've been a better answer. lol

[dim kettle]

Wouldn't you agree though? The NHL doesn't provide compelling rivalries rn? I feel like that never gets brought up whenever the decline of the NHL gets brought up

[dim ledge]

It's dependent lol. Alot of the rivalries do reel forced

[robust grotto]

It’s the main reason why the NHL changed the playoff format so the first 2 rounds are strictly in division

[dim ledge]

Feel

[dim kettle]

Yeah. That's the sad part. Even with this forced playoff system. Why should Nikita hate Matthews? LA vs the Oilers. Why should they hate each other? Boston vs Toronto. What does Boston have to prove at this point? They beat them all the time

[robust grotto]

It’s not as organic as before, because of this system

I also think something all leagues share in common is that there are an X amount of teams that are ALWAYS bad

Or at least they stay bad for so fucking long man. How many more years do I have to hear about Detroit or Ottawa being so close

[dim kettle]

Not even talking about the playoffs only. These matchups should be critical through out the regular season.

[robust grotto]

The NHL should drop that extra game against non division opponents and give it to division opponents, the more they play in season the better

There are seasons where the Rangers only play NJ or NYI twice a year, for example

So I get you TOTALLY

[dim kettle]

Like back in the 90s Red Wings vs Avs. Avs vs Stars. Rangers vs Devils. 2010s even. Ducks vs Sharks. Rangers vs Habs. Ovi vs Crosby, Crosby vs the Flyers. Like these rivalries used to mean something.

[robust grotto]

Moving Detroit to east has had some consequences in that department. They needed to move east 100% but it crushed the ties with STL CHI and COL

I know what you’re saying, and I do agree there needs to be more done during the season about that. They need to schedule these games in big moments. Like holiday season or towards the end of the season, there needs to be juice and stakes in the line

[dim kettle]

Whether the Wings are in the East or West is irrelevant. That's history rivalries in which CGY/EDM and NYR/NYI keep trying to force on people despite there being no good reason for them to hate each other. Like it would be nice to have a 2010s CHI/LAK rivalry in today's game

[sacred kite]

I want to meet this man

[dim kettle]

The NFL rn despite how boring and flags thrown every second, you know Mahomes vs Allen. Mahomes vs Lamar. Lamar vs Burrow. Will get people talking.

[robust grotto]

Ultimately it has to be organic. Idk the answer

[dim kettle]

It's not something you can really fix in the game itself. But it's still a problem regardless.

It's a bigger problem that the NHL refuses to promote their stars like celebrities.

It's actually really interesting that the NBA and NHL have the same rivalry issue but both are for different reasons. One league refuses to make the games feel bigger and the other because you often have to question whether or not these players take the regular season seriously enough or not.

[robust grotto]

It really isn’t. I think also it comes down to our generation; we’re not really nasty in person

Not to make this an alpha male, high testosterone levels, type of convo but our fathers’ era was much tougher to say the least

[dim kettle]

There could be points here. But once again you can look at the NFL and still have compelling rivalries despite being more friendly.

[robust grotto]

NFL, black Americans with a much tougher upbringing than the affluent white Canadian / American

Not to make it about race but worth bringing up

[dim kettle]

And hockey has shown it's still as cheap as ever with hits.

[robust grotto]

Lmao yeah that hasn’t changed, but the difference is nothing is done about. The players don’t police the game as much anymore

Very interesting though

[dim kettle]

I'm not even gonna get into that. But the NBA has these problems too with rivalries. So how much of that really matters?

[robust grotto]

There really is no rivalry worth its salt in the nhl right now

[dim kettle]

The closest rn IMO is like Stars vs Knights. But the NHL system fucks them over.

[robust grotto]

I’m just thinking out loud, you know? Maybe another problem is that our generation is all about brands. You’re not just a player but you’re a brand. Why die for you team? Fuck the team, we’re in the era of the individual

It’s not the lakers versus the bucks. The Lebron and the lakers versus Giannis and the bucks

[dim kettle]

Well it's still a player rivalry which makes people want to watch.

[robust grotto]

I might be reaching on all my points. To be fair

I’m just trying to entertain this convo

[dim kettle]

It's like Ovi vs Crosby when it actually used to matter.

[robust grotto]

Yep, so maybe that’s part of it?

[dim kettle]

It's just nice to have the conversation because this is something I've noticed the last few years and wondering why it feels soulless at times minus my team winning.

[robust grotto]

I appreciate you not throwing out all of my points

I do think the lack of nastiness from an individual standpoint is probably the closest thing we will find, with hockey specifically. Every team wants a Tkachuk because he’s 1 of 1. In the 90s, every good team had 1

[hasty basin]

Pretty sad because there's

An insane amount of talent in the NBA

[dim kettle]

It's just one thing that never gets talked about when the NHL and ratings decline gets brought up. We can talk about the lack of marketing, blackouts, out of touch with modern taste. But I just think it's the lack of real intense player/team rivalries.

[hasty basin]

WNBA viewership increased like crazy since Clark joined the league

[robust grotto]

It’s an inherently mean and nasty sport but no real mean or nasty players (that are actually good hockey players too)

[dim kettle]

I'm starting to notice the NBA is doing awful marketing too. Not a good sign for the future.

This is major reason baseball and hockey has lost popularity in the last few decades.

[celest zephyr]

To me it’s also so many of these guys have grown up playing with each other in like aau, high school, college

So it’s like hard to have any real animosity

Also guys idk just don’t seem to often be as psychotic as guys like bird magic Shaq Kobe and Jordan

[robust grotto]

I can’t help but think this is the key here. Our generation is not wired like that

Maybe the kids younger than us will be, but our generation just wasn’t raised like that

[celest zephyr]

NBA marketing: OMG look at this big star player. Look at these highlights with music playing

That go so fast you can barely pay attention

Shitty ads

[celest zephyr]

Yeah for sure

I like it more

Makes the nba more of a brotherhood

The shit those guys did is fucked up

[robust grotto]

But it was entertaining, it made people talk and want to watch the next matchup

[dim kettle]

Yeah. I think you can be friendly and still have compelling rivalries. The NFL wouldn't be making a lot of profits off Bills and Chiefs games if they didn't.

[celest zephyr]

It’s also hilarious that the best player in the nba is a guy who plays with horses and doesn’t want a phone

[celest zephyr]

For sure yeah

Idk the east is just too ass

There are some rivalries boiling upin the west though

Wolves thunder mavericks and nuggets going to be problems in the west

[dim kettle]

I can only say this from my perspective. It's hard to believe there's any real intensity or problem between teams when you often question if these guys take the regular season seriously or not. And then Adam Silver will try to force more gimmicks to 'attempt' to make it matter more

[celest zephyr]

Oh for sure load management blows

Embiid never doing a b2b again

[torn gale]

When curry LeBron and kd retire im gone

[celest zephyr]

Players bitching and moaning about playing 65/82 games for awards

[dim kettle]

For the NBA. The players themselves also have to help fix it. I mean, they're GMs at this point, you might as well help the league too.

[torn gale]

They’ll help their pockets

Then complain when it doesn’t work out

[dim kettle]

I wonder how far that will go when those sponsors want to go to the female counterpart and promote them.

[torn gale]

The whole presentation of the nba sucks. The courts are bland, the jerserys suck, the atmosphere sucks. Regular season doesn’t matter to teams anymore. Sports betting, the increase in ads

I also don’t care for most of these new players enough to stick around when my favorites retire

Refs are also bad and soft as charmin.

Every league complains about refs but I haven’t seen ones as silly as nba ones

[dim kettle]

NFL and NBA ones really do impact how I feel watching games.

Because a ump can call a bad strike out. But they can't take away a double because the batter looked at the pitcher for too long running the bases.

[torn gale]

NBA is the only league where I recognize refs and want to turn it off. Only other ref I know is angel Hernandez in baseball because he’s apparently that bad

[dim kettle]

Umps are just easier to see because they're always in frame.

[chilly flare]

They need to find a way for teams to take the regular season a bit more seriously

Whatever that may be

I like the in season tournament tbh

[torn gale]

They tried with the in season tournament but the courts are ugly as sin and it lasts like a month

With load managing being what it is, they’ll never take it seriously

The best thing they can do is fix their horrid scheduling

They’ll have certain teams play like 3 times in a week or having days where there’s a singular game on

[dim kettle]

There’s no easy answer because it’s a players issue. Something like a in season tournament is a bandaid solution to a deeper problem

The sport itself is a flaw. It's unique because an individual or two can carry teams to good seasons. When it's great. It's great. But when it's not, and these guys are worth more than the teams they play on. It's rough. You live and die by that sword.

[chilly flare]

The courts are tough to look at that’s for sure

[torn gale]

Yeah. Curry turned the warriors into one of the richest franchises in the world

It just looks to be getting worse…

More three point shooting is boring too

Watching the Celtics is annoying

The 15-16 warriors would be dead last in three point attempts per game this season

The team with a player who made 400 threes

[dim kettle]

There's one extreme solution, though. And it's a very dire one most fans will never get behind. Contraction of teams.

[hollow wind]

There’s many things you can point to yeah. I do think the player culture and “vibe” aren’t as encapsulating as previous eras. As much as certain people try to refute this, I do think the brand of basketball isn’t as engaging to watch. The talent in the league is so spread out now that there’s less of the “superstar” narratives to follow which was legitimately healthy for the league. Now every team has at least one super talented player if not more, but half of them just aren’t that interesting to follow and they all kind of mesh together. Then there’s things like officiating inconsistency and bs, all star games being unwatchable, marquee players doing bullshit flop and foul bait tactics etc.. it’s just not as tight of a product right now

[dim kettle]

The basketball game itself has a similar problem baseball has these days. Too much emphasis on 3-pointers with a lot of dead air like baseball with the long ball. I always compare it to a sugar rush. Lots of highs and then the crash happens.

Scores are higher than ever. But it often lacks the flow and continuity and can make it not very compelling to watch IMO.

[smoky fable]

They got issues for sure.

At least the Olympics were fun for basketball

[celest zephyr]

All facts

[celest zephyr]

Sets are too similar now

So many teams just do drive and kick, hunt matchups , pass around the perimeter, do pnr/pick and pop

[celest zephyr]

It doesn’t help when players just bitch and moan all day long

Refs could really kick out a lot of guys way sooner

[dim kettle]

I wish the NBA would crack down on the lack of physicality in the game. Not go back to the headhunting of the 80s and 90s but a little physicality and defense would be a nice change of pace.

[celest zephyr]

For sure

Defense in the nba blows

It’s either indivual defense or some attempt at 2-3/3-2 zone

Maybe some box and 1 but that’s about it

Defensive three seconds could be five second instead

And nba has to get rid of flops

And crack down on moving screens

[dim kettle]

Unfortunately, this is the lasting impact of the Malice at the Palace. The league got too soft.

[celest zephyr]

Yeah for sure

Which I get but it’s been a while since then

New commissioner

Silver is alright but the nba could for sure do better

He has the personality of a wet napkin

[dim kettle]

I think the actions speak for itself. This pathetic In-Season Tournament.

[celest zephyr]

It’s awful

[dim kettle]

The biggest question the NBA has tried but has no answer to is, 'How do you bring the passion back into the game?'

[robust grotto]

Pay players less

[dim kettle]

Like, you know, baseball had a solution to cut down on analytics and pace of game. The NBA simply has no answers for the boring style of play or the lack of any passionate team/player rivalries.

This is how we got the In-Season Tournament.

[robust grotto]

For sure. Ofc I’m not a basketball fan but the high scoring games are such a turnoff

Like Kimmy said , no defense. The reward of hitting a bucket is so flat

[dim kettle]

It's not high-scoring games that's the problem. It's just like baseball with the analytics and trying to get on base and hope to hit a 3 run homerun instead of playing small ball and creating rallies. It's about flow and continuity.

[celest zephyr]

For sure

[robust grotto]

Right right I was just going to say something similar

[celest zephyr]

The issue with analytics is that more possessions with bricks is extremely boring

And also some guys are just at hitting shots that aren’t supposed to be analytically sound in general

[dim kettle]

Yeah. It's like I said. I compare it to a sugar rush. You get the highs of highs and then you crash.

[robust grotto]

Maybe it’s not just the sport though

Like maybe there are factors outside of sport where the core audience of NBA fans just aren’t watching

[dim kettle]

Yeah. The lack of passion creates a snowball effect.

If there's no passion for these guys in the regular season. Then you can't have connections to these guys, you can't have compelling rivalries, which makes casuals not want to watch it.

People even in sports watch them for the storylines, the players playing it.

[robust grotto]

I also feel like the core nba audience is like .. teenagers and young men

And young men generally have other things to do than catch NBA games. This is a very interesting convo

And I’m totally willing to be wrong on everything btw

[dim kettle]

Let's put it this way. NASCAR was once a top 3 sport in the country in the 90s. Many loved Dale Earnhardt, Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart, Bill Elliott, and Rusty Wallace.

[weak gull]

Nah you’re right, the older I get the less interested in the nba I am. Not to say I don’t watch, but I used to watch 5-6 separate games a week

I only watch the pistons now along with most of playoffs

Idk, for me, I just like the feeling of an upset being very possible. Hard to see those in 7 game series with how some teams are constructed (this is why the nhl is a bit even for me with my nba interest at this time in my life)

The western conference helped last year

The eastern conference doesn’t though😂

[smoky fable]

Doesn't help that with the amount of NBA games there are, it feels like it doesn't matter that much.

Playoffs get more interest

[dim kettle]

You know, sometimes that can be the case. But you also have to acknowledge that there's usually a middle ground.

The regular season doesn't feel interesting because the players sure don't look interested. So why should you?

[weak gull]

I’m just speaking for me

I read what you said; I think that would be the majority opinion. So you hit the nail on the head there. Lack of passion in some aspects and the game is just different now. Not to say that’s bad…but it definitely isn’t for everyone

[dim kettle]

The amount of games shouldn't matter. In theory, every game should matter to making a top seed or even making the playoffs. But the players now will do these load management crap and it's like its stuff like that which makes people say it doesn't matter.

[robust grotto]

I don’t watch hockey outside the Rangers either.

So just thinking about it .. older men don’t watch as much because it’s “soft”. Young men don’t watch as much because they’re focused on careers, socializing, love life.

It could just be this whole mix of the league not being entertaining and society not being entertained enough to spend more time on it?

[dim kettle]

Think about it from an anime or manga perspective. Imagine thinking to yourself, "Well, this chapter doesn't matter. this arc doesn't matter, the build-up to this fight doesn't matter, I'll skip to that."
You'd sound crazy. But this is what the NBA is these days.

[torn gale]

I remember getting excited for regular season matchups and nowadays I’m not even sure if the stars will be playing in them

[weak gull]

Also- just consider the price to watch some of this shit these days😂

[torn gale]

Prices going up and you’re not even sure if the player you want to watch is playing

[weak gull]

I’m not an economist or anything like that, but I definitely know where most people cut costs during these times

Entertainment

Meanwhile a nap is free 🚬

[dim kettle]

These are factors. However, you have to look at the big picture. You pretty much said it. It's not as entertaining. The reason you only watch Ranger games is because it's what you believe is the only emotion you have to the game rn. I'm a Bolts/Flames fan but I couldn't give you a reason to care about Calgary. Why should you care about the Jets and Caps rn? Nothing about the sport feels big rn and that's the core of the problem. Not the style of play, simply elevating these stars and game will do so much for the sport.

[torn gale]

The players nowadays are undeniably more talented but somehow this makes the nba more boring

In the nfl I watch not only for the players on my team but for the team as a whole and it’s enjoyable. Every game matters. But in the nba I’m watching more for single players and if that player isn’t playing I really wouldn’t even bother watching unless I was super die hard for the team

Not to mention matchups. I don’t care to watch the Knicks vs the hornets on a Tuesday night to be honest

[dim kettle]

If there's one thing I've learned from watching pro wrestling the last 8 years. Being more talented doesn't always equate to entertaining and compelling watches.

[torn gale]

Yeah I feel like a lot of the skill sets overlap and players become less unique/specialized

There are exceptions of course

[dim kettle]

It's always gonna come down to the style of play. The style of play in the NBA where everyone is shooting 3s is not compelling no matter the skill level

Doesn't matter how great Steph Curry is at it. It's not fun to watch game by game

And then have a bunch of clones try to copy it.

[torn gale]

at least with the warriors dynasty, they implented an elite basketball system to generate looks. The motion, screens, and movement make it entertaining to watch. Teams don’t do this

Celtics drive and kick out three or Tatum or brown side step three

They make them at a high clip which is why they’re successful but it’s boring to watch

I find it funny college football is the one major American sport that can’t figure out the playoffs. At least that I know of

Idk how college baseball does it

[dim kettle]

IDK if you watch much hockey. But in the 90s early 2000s. The New Jersey Devils had this style of play called the Trap. It basically prevented players from passing through the neutral zone and to force turnovers. The problem was despite being successful, it was very boring to watch. And then everyone tried to use that system which made the league boring to watch. The difference here is the NHL fixed that problem after the 04 lockout. What can the NBA do about this style of play? Not many options unless you allow some physicality back into the game.

[torn gale]

I don’t watch much hockey but that does sound similar to the 3point revolution the warriors pioneered

NBA won’t do jack about it though

NBA loves the “we will enforce this for a week at the start of the season” and then never care about it again

To be fair though probably every league does this

I don’t think there’s anything anyone can do to stop the increase in 3 point shooting though

[rustic ore]

https://x.com/theStevenRuiz/status/1859295651512668382

Steven Ruiz (@theStevenRuiz) on X

I firmly believe the NFL should allow every team to pick one designated PED user who is exempt from testing each season.

if that were the case, which player would your team pick?

Twitter · Nov 20, 2024, 6:00 PM

[celest zephyr]

To me first round being five games is better

[hasty basin]

Anyone but Slovakia

[dim ledge]

So wait what happens with Greece

[robust grotto]

I agree

Imagine being Slovak lmao

[dim ledge]

Better beer than the Americans

I'm still thinking about the Slovak guy at the jazz club

"No no your beer is very bad. I will make you recommendation"

[hasty basin]

Playoffs against a team that finished 3rd in A league

If you win you're promoted

If not stay in B

2 legs

[hasty basin]

I'm more scared because Kvara and our captain are out

+2 other starters

[dim ledge]

Idk if I want to be in A tbh

A is frightening

So we can get Croatia, Italy, Denmark, or Netherlands

[robust grotto]

I’m happy there are few soldiers still in this world

[dim ledge]

Literal nuclear grade chad energy

[robust grotto]

Should be me

[dim ledge]

The fucking list killed me

[robust grotto]

It’ll never be me

That list was great lmao I loved it

[dim ledge]

I should've asked him his thoughts on Greek beer

Alfa supremacy

How was Mika yesterday btw? Flash in the pan or on the right track back to form? Too early to tell?

[hasty mesa]

https://x.com/giantinsider/status/1859337583618294224?s=46

The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper (@GiantInsider) on X

Dexter Lawrence told me that Daboll went to him before the DeVito move asking him his opinion. Dabes explained his thought process and Dex understood it. Dex said it was a smart move by Dabes because the move could have lost the locker room .

Dex said the locker room is tight

Twitter · Nov 20, 2024, 8:46 PM

@torn gale @robust grotto

Dex is team leader

[robust grotto]

It’s hard to disagree ngl

[robust grotto]

Yeah I was happy to see his effort

[dim ledge]

Good

[rustic mountain]

De Da De Da

[torn gale]

My glorious king Dexter Lawrence

[dim kettle]

All we need now is King Dedede.

[smoky fable]

Leader of the team for sure

[hollow wind]

I can't believe they did my boy Daniel Jones so dirty

He had once in a generation potential

[dense blade]

https://x.com/TheEuropeanLad/status/1859352506956235166?t=eOTRHDJ3l1D02oWLBJfFwg&s=19

TheEuropeanLad (@TheEuropeanLad) on X

🚨🗣️ - Rodri: "Cristiano Ronaldo was able to match Lionel Messi without any natural talent, but as players who faced them both, we know the difference. With Cristiano, we didn't want him to enter the box because he was deadly there. But with Messi, he would be dangerous with

Twitter · Nov 20, 2024, 9:45 PM

"without any natural talent" LMAOOO

this guy is using avg ft twitter talking points srsly

[short flame]

People have convinced themselves that Ronaldo for some reason had 0 talent and that Messi did everything without having to train

[robust grotto]

Really refreshing to hear this from a former player. NHL has a huge issue in their front offices .. the best way to get a job is not by climbing up the ladder but by being a former player. It’s just not right

Every sport the GMs are usually nerds, guys who worked their ways from the bottom to the top. Meanwhile NHL is just like “oh you played here, please take this job”

[sacred shore]

Christian ronaldo had no talent huh. Ig that means i can be the worlds best player

[dense blade]

ronaldo put a hatrick on his head and he's just crying since then

[hasty basin]

Can't think of a player that is great just purely from hard work, no talent

Think we had this convo before @short flame

[sacred shore]

Wait is ronaldo playing in the world cup

[hasty basin]

Said he wants to

[sacred shore]

Oof

[short flame]

I don’t think that’s possible. I think the closest we got when we had the convo was Traoré and he’s not great

[hasty basin]

Yeah...

But like even if there exists such person it's hard to tell isn't it

Because if someone is "remotely good" you'd attribute it to talent