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desert palm
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What matters is that They both in some capacity deserve it and just happen to be one was picked over the other

slow violet
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disagree just because there is usually a distinct MVP. Knowing the media voting system just making it AFC/NFC would just be best AFC QB on the best team and best NFC QB on the best team. Just adding different conferences makes it basically look like a Co-Partnered award. I think something that should be introduced in probably something in the realm of the CY Young award for a specific position group.

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i think this year there was a good case, usually its pretty easy to see who wins the award.

desert palm
slow violet
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look at the end of the day Damar will get more recognition, probably even a movie for his comeback story. However, i think there was a good reason to tie performance to that award just because the nature of the sport. Injury and near death is something NFL fans use to experiencing. Yes Damars was the most tragic in recent memory, but there is a pretty fine line between a player dyeing in some scenarios and the ER team basically shocking them back which is actually so common people don't even think about it. I think the national media buzz around the situation is probably why there is more arguments because i think they were more complaining on the NFL getting their PR machine rolling.

slow violet
desert palm
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It could just be from where I’m coming from versus where you’re coming from in our sports fandom

silk pine
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Holy I just found out the browns won 4 awards

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POGGIES were eating good

slow violet
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The only browns award I was surprised by was Jim Schwartz

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I thought it was going to go for Ben Johnson or Mike MacDonald but understandable.

burnt cedar
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What is he cooking

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Hope someone has Curtis Jones on speed dial the next time we score for his permission to celebrate

mental elk
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just ignore like

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a lot of stuff and its true

amber grove
mental elk
amber grove
mental elk
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If you wanted to go back further, you'd find a lot more varied appearances. Last time a non first division team won was 40 years ago (west ham) for example

mental elk
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that being Portsmouth v Cardiff in 07

mental elk
amber grove
torn gale
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I guess we are the New York Titans

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We got their OC and DC

celest zephyr
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Let’s go cmc opoy

celest zephyr
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mvp is the dumbest nfl award

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tj watt tied the record for most sacks in a season let's give mvp to a qb!

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cooper kupp has a triple crown but nope its a qb

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derrick henry has 2000 yards from scrimmage let's give it to a qb

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nfl mvp only has weight more than a piece of paper when they will actually give it to the most valuable player

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at least the nba will give it to anyone regardless of position

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for all the complaining about needing to play 65 plus games for awards, haven't found any recent mvp that hasn't played that number or was on pace in a shortened season

hollow wind
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MVQB should be its own award lol

short flame
hasty basin
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What happens if a keeper gets a blue card?

fleet orbit
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The top 4 of west in nba is separated by a single game

short flame
hasty basin
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Not official but like it's actually being considered to be added so

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After that shit ucl change anything is possible

celest zephyr
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i agree for sure but also my point is whoever has the biggest impact wins

short flame
celest zephyr
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like idk no one is going lamar was the most important player to a team winning all season long

short flame
celest zephyr
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lol

celest zephyr
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that's the nfl for you

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almost no one plays on multiple sides

hasty basin
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Small things happened back in the day too little changes like scrapping the away goals for example was a good idea

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But now too much is changing

short flame
celest zephyr
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unfortunately for the nfl no

hasty basin
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They have to let ideas settle in so it doesn't become unwatchable by the time they have implemented 10 new rules to the game

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That drastically change it

short flame
pearl marlin
celest zephyr
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basically british football associations + fifa

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next thing is not waxing the refs shoes is a blue card

hasty basin
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I get it's been a decade but this is too much

torn gale
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NBA mvp is ass just in a different way

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We’ve had how many back to backs in recent memory. Once you get 2 it may as well be over

torn gale
pearl marlin
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Greatest of all time

sweet tree
celest zephyr
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Yeah so many b2bs lol

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Lebron got 4 in 5 years

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Nba doesn’t want 3 in a row at almost any cost

celest zephyr
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Just like Williams

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Dang Ryans almost won coty

slow violet
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ya it looks like a Williams

dim kettle
slow violet
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Pete Carroll on TV

robust grotto
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Pete and Bill

slow violet
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Pete Giving Jimmy Graham a hug after the game

robust grotto
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I love how they do this once a year

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Imagine going to work and being in the same car as the leafs lmao

celest zephyr
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Nah just looks similar to what they did back when they were toro Rosso

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Plus Williams used to look like this back when they were with bmw

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This was their 2020 livery

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Pretty different

honest umbra
hollow wind
sweet tree
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Bernabeu is getting an NFL game

sacred kite
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I really really hope there’s an NFL game in Cancun💀

robust grotto
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NFL crushing it. I’m loving this

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Americans triggered but fuck em

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God forbid the nfl grows the game lol

sweet tree
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hope Camp Nou gets a game whenever the stadium is done with renovation NamiPray

rustic mountain
dim kettle
robust grotto
slow violet
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man we have so many international games

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how many we got next year? 3-4?

stoic topaz
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ok so can someone explain this to me - how can you be the MVP as an offense only player and not be the best offensive player? (I genuinely don't know)

slow violet
dim kettle
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OPOY - Best overall.
MVP - How much impact the guy on the team has.

stoic topaz
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but like non qbs have won mvp in the past, people with roles which have a fraction of the impact of a qb have won mvp

slow violet
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last time a nonqb has won the MVP in a passing era was Adrian Peterson and that required a record setting season

dim kettle
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The game has indeed changed. RBs for example just aren't as big as they used to be. Adrian Peterson won the MVP over a decade ago, at least to me, because he was the offense on the Vikings.

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Like the only guy.

slow violet
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you don't even need the best stats anymore as the QB. Its always been a narrative driven award, you just need to be consistent and show up in a few big games in the regular season against other mvps. Then its basically a lock

dim kettle
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Much respect to CMC. But the Niners could beat you in many other ways then just CMC.

slow violet
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i think CMC is deserving because even on that stacked team there is no question he is the most productive player

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the only other i can argue for is Trent williams

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but an O lineman will never get an OPOY

dim kettle
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But you have to look at it like this. If CMC gets hurt, how much does that hurt the Niners in comparison to if Lamar got hurt on the Ravens?

slow violet
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thats not a good arguement because we know the positions weigh different

dim kettle
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This is why Peyton got so mant MVPs in the past mainly because once he went down the Colts went 2-14

slow violet
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THANK GOD, i was scared he was coming to the seahawks

weak gull
dim kettle
slow violet
dim kettle
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What does MVP mean. most valuable player. Not best player. Most valuable

slow violet
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lol i am not argueing mvp, i am talking about OPOY

dim kettle
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Oh yeah. lol

slow violet
rustic ore
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Oh wow. I didn’t even realize Wink became Michigan’s new DC

slow violet
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i think he was a D line coach?

celest zephyr
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What team suffers more if an average player replaced them

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Like the niners had an average rb replace cmc vs the ravens had an average qb replace Lamar

hasty basin
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Malen goll

hollow wind
slow violet
weak gull
celest zephyr
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Okay but that’s at least part of being an mvp to me

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To me the mvp is a guy who’s played at a very high level that contributes meaningfully to a team’s wins

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Stuff like wins over replacement player in the nba

slow violet
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you know i think we will never be in a fair play space for that award just because if you think about it. Most of the people voting are media members

celest zephyr
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That’s another thing but yeah

slow violet
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they have no idea how to compare a players of different position groups

celest zephyr
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I mean even if its players they sometimes aren’t going to be objective also

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Imo the dream is whether people agree or not is like the nba all star system

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Fans players coaches media all can rank and its determined by a weighted system

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So even if every side has their biases by combining them there’s at least a sense of okay this guy is reasonable

slow violet
celest zephyr
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Seeing some players vote they just vote for the guys on their team

slow violet
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the fact that Devon Witherspoon got 4th in DROY ranking 😭 sickening damn east coast bias. I think Will Anderson deserved DROY but cmon 4th really

weak gull
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I didn’t think 4th was that bad…I’d have had him 3rd but is 4th really that bad?

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Seattle fans are just complaining cause it’s turner who was in front of him

slow violet
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i thought he played better than Jalen Carter also

weak gull
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That’s a bit much imo

slow violet
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look at his stats on a team that was defensivly terrible

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him and Julian love were our only good players

weak gull
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Carter was elite for a good portion of the year

slow violet
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Witherspoon had a pick-6, three sacks as a CB, nine tackles for loss, and 16 passes defensed cmon man and like i said. Our defense was trash last year. Our safeties were some of the worst in the league till Julian got there.

fleet orbit
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I won’t state my piece on the nhl mvp because I don’t have the knowledge , but of the other 3, the nba is the only one I’m fully on board with

celest zephyr
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Truth be told nhl mvp is weird cuz likethere’s a media voted one and a player voted one

fleet orbit
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There are so many advanced stats in baseball , and football you might have a player whose tremendously valuable who happens to play RG

slow violet
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nba has no position bias, their MVP is well established. Ya some ticky tacky stuff but its good

celest zephyr
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Yeah like love or hate embiid i don’t think anyone would go he wasn’t a top 3 most valuable player last season

slow violet
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yep, regardless of his playoff success. Defensivly he was better than jokic last year so well deserving of an MVP

fleet orbit
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I honestly just think Jokic is currently the most important player in the nba to his team

slow violet
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i think in terms of performance and unlocking the team i agree

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but we will see what happens to the sixers without embiid

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i think they are cooked

weak gull
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It’s about impact, carters impact on the dline was just as much as spoons to that secondary. And he’s used as a nickel. He’s gonna get sacks like most nickels do in blitz heavy schemes

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If all this stuff was about stats and records then bland would need to be talked about

And I hate the cowboys more than anyone here probably

robust grotto
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but I get it. I mean it’s a big deal

dim kettle
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Everyone knows Bettman is the MVP of the NHL. He's keeping the Yotes in Arizona.

celest zephyr
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as long as its reasonable arguments and not throwing mud at other people its fine

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the issue is it devolves so much into the latter

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beats the goat debate though cuz its that but also the insane difficulty of comparing generations

rustic mountain
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LFGGGGGG

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LOVE DONTA BRO

rustic ore
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Didn’t Mayo and Hightower play together?

rustic mountain
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For like

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2 seasons

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Mayo got a ring with us in 2014 but he only played half a season

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Tore a labrum I think

rustic ore
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Ah

rustic mountain
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He also was on our 2015 roster but he couldn't beat out Collins or High

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Super hyped man. Zeus is a fucking beast

rustic ore
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Still, cool way to help out an ex-teammate start out a coaching career

rustic mountain
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100%

slow violet
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@rustic mountain ar eyou ok with them hiring so much staff that are basically just patriots staff again but younger?

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i thought they would go with a different approach

rustic mountain
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Who said that they are just patriots staff again?

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And we haven't done that

slow violet
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not majority but seems like a lot of patriots staff

rustic mountain
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Hightower played for us

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He wasnt a staffer

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The only one that was a coach for us that wasn't Mayo was Covington

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Everyone else is new

slow violet
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nah i am asking how do you feel about them basically just bringing people that are experienced in the patriot way back on this coaching staff

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or did you want like a complete shift

rustic mountain
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I don't mind it because the coaching wasn't the biggest problem outside the offense which is changed

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The problem was roster construction

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Our defense was always solid

slow violet
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do you guys have a GM yet?

rustic mountain
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Probably gonna be Eliot Wolf

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Or at least for now is

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I wanted Trey Brown from the Bengals but here we are

slow violet
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just guessing but is that ron wolfs son or grandson or something

rustic mountain
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I have no clue

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I know we've had Wolf for a while but he wasn't really in charge

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Bill was

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Basically Kraft is saying Bill was the major issue with things and we believe in the youth we have

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I can't say if that's wrong or not

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We have to wait and see

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Coaching wise, I thought we were generally fine besides offense, but that hopefully seems to be shifting. Kinda glad O Brien fucked off

rustic ore
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Just saw BOB is the new HC of Boston College G5Laugh

rustic mountain
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Yeeeep

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He might be okay there who knoes

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Btw

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Devin Hester in the Hall but not Antonio Gates is stupid

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Oh and Reggie Wayne, Torey Holt, and Hines Ward

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Also stupid

dim kettle
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HOF class grades:
A+ = Randy Gradishar, Patrick Willis, Julius Peppers
A = Andre Johnson
B = Devin Hester
C = Steve McMichael
D = Dwight Freeney
F = Not inducting Art Powell and Buddy Parker

rustic mountain
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I actually agree with Barry on this

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I don't understand why Hester is in the hall of fame

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I just don't think he was a better choice than players like Antonio Gates or Torey Holt

celest zephyr
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not lakers hate but this is comical

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like idk man i find it very difficult to believe that the lakers are this good at not fouling and drawing fouls

dim kettle
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Hester was a once-in-a-generation talent as a kick and punt returner.

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As for being over the likes of Gates though. Well, you got me there.

hasty mesa
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One more year till Eli gets in

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Let the debates begin

rustic mountain
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Eli shouldn't be in, signed biased af pats fan

celest zephyr
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Nah he doesn’t deserve it

dim kettle
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Dwight Freeney being a second ballot HOFer is a joke though

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Eli gonna get the Manning tax and get in. Always a reminder that the HOF is for the greats of the sport not just the very good.

rustic mountain
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If Eli gets in, it just further dilutes the product. Just call it the Hall of pretty good for a while

dim kettle
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It wouldn't surprise anyone. The voting process for the HOF is a joke.

rustic mountain
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That much is apparent

hasty mesa
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Tom Brady
Joe Montana
Bart Starr
Terry Bradshaw
Patrick Mahomes

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All are or will be HOFers

celest zephyr
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A joke is one thing a guy who hasn’t even won more than half of the regular season games he’s started is beyond a joke

hasty mesa
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What do they have in common?

dim kettle
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Dwight Freeney is only in the HOF rn because he played with Manning and you can't prove me wrong otherwise.

rustic mountain
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Antonio Gates, Reggie Wayne, Hines Ward, and Torey Holt get told to kick rocks but Hester come on down

dim kettle
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Well, Wayne got the boot probably because Andre Johnson was just much better.

rustic mountain
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Why is a returner beating all of them though is my question

hasty mesa
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2 Super Bowl MVPs gets Eli in

rustic mountain
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And his years of being garbo do?

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Joe Flacco deserves to be in by that rate

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He had a magical run and took the ravens to the playoffs multiple times

dim kettle
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Eli has 2 SBs. But you look at Eli and you can only say he was the 3rd best QB in his class. Nobody is gonna deny that.

rustic mountain
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And it could be argued that Eli definitely doesn't deserve the mvp at least for 2007 when his offense only put up 17

weak gull
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Y’all can argue everything, but Hester turned returns into a damn art

haughty moss
rustic mountain
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Hester getting in over Antonio Gates is dumb

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I am sorry

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But it is

dim kettle
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Hester you could argue was a MVP type guy. He was one of the few guys special team coaches had to build around stopping him from scoring on you.

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You saw that in the SB ffs

rustic mountain
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Devin Hester was taken out of the equation entirely if you punted out of bounds or kicked out the back of the endzone

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Antonio Gates was on the field with the offense every down

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I am not even saying Hester should never be in the Hall. I am saying that this was a dumb choice imo

dim kettle
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Gates getting shafted was a crime. But why are we throwing Hester under the bus when someone like Freeney is getting in second ballot.

weak gull
rustic mountain
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I understand but my point is Hester was on the field WAY less often than Gates. And Freeny shouldn't have been there either

slow violet
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Hester changed the game man

weak gull
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I guess, just the odd one to throw down for gates imo

rustic mountain
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I don't think it is but that's why it is an opinion

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I don't value Hester the same way

slow violet
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nah Gates should of got in 100%, he literally changed the TE position

weak gull
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I mean when freeney is there it is odd like shadow said

slow violet
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i think gates should of got in over freeney

weak gull
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Everyone would agree with that

rustic mountain
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I don't really view Freeny and Hester as such a huge gap that I think it matters that much. Idk. I don't view returners as important as every down players, but if you disagree then you disagree

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I do think Id take Hester over Freeny

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But it's not like ridiculously so

slow violet
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ya Hester over freeny because to do it as a KR is crazy

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crazy hard to be as consistant of a KR as Hester was. Yes freeny was a great player but his impact on the sport is not as large compared to Hesters impact on special teams

rustic mountain
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Agree to disagree

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I am not saying Freeny is better

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Just that I don't think of Hester in the same way

dim kettle
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The fact that John Abraham was incredibly similar to Freeny with very similar stat profiles. But he can't make it out of the round of 25 and Freeny's 2nd ballot just shows how much power just being on a team with Peyton has.

slow violet
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im telling ya bro the people that vote for this shit

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Glue eaters

dim kettle
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...

rustic mountain
dim kettle
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H-Hey. That just means when the Bills finally beat the Chiefs. Sab could not only watch it on Prime but also order tissues. trollio

slow violet
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will it be free on Twitch though?

rustic mountain
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I can't take anymore subscriptions man

slow violet
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i have a Prime subscription and i think its bull shit

rustic mountain
dim kettle
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I just cut off my Hulu.

rustic mountain
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I think I only have Spotify

slow violet
rustic mountain
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I can't do subscriptions anymore man

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I am done with monthly payments for most my content it's infuriating

dim kettle
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I have a few subscriptions.

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But yeah. I was paying over 82 dollars for Hulu TV.

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Not fun

slow violet
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aside for prime, i got youtube tv and HBO max from my internet

weak gull
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So to make a career off of it is kinda insane imo

slow violet
rustic mountain
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Everything is going up

dim kettle
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I use Apple Music, ESPN+ for the hockey games, YT Premium for the mobile stuff. And Peacock for the WWE PPVs.

rustic mountain
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Hashbrowns at McDonald's fucking 3 dollars

dim kettle
dim kettle
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I had to pay 70 dollars for the Persona 3 game. I hate this direction we're going.

rustic mountain
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It's why I rarely go out to eat, coupon where I can, and my entertainment always is paid in full, so books, movies, games I refuse to do subscriptions

dim kettle
rustic mountain
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Other than music

dim kettle
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Sounding a lot like cable now. Which I was predicting was gonna happen over a decade ago.

slow violet
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buying content is hella expensive, but these greedy ass mfers really do be stressing

rustic mountain
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I buy content that I am passionate about and I disregard the rest

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I also read a lot of novels

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So I have a library card and it takes care of it

dim kettle
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i just pirate my light novels.

rustic mountain
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I also have a pretty extensive physical library so that helps

slow violet
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i just pirate what i need to live

dim kettle
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I would do the same if I had room to do it at the moment.

rustic mountain
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I acknowledge I have a luxury but I love physical books so much Id find a way to keep em where I can

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Even if I had to downsize, there are some Id never part with

dim kettle
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I'm like that too. My N64 collection is never going away.

slow violet
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aside from text books, my library just empty atm. Once one piece ends ill probably buy all the volumes and create a seperate shelf for it

rustic mountain
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I've had the same A Series of Unfortunate Events books, some since 5th grade, that will never go anywhere

slow violet
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i had those, captain underpants, percy jackson etc. Gave em all to my nephew

celest zephyr
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same bro

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expect the nephew part

rustic mountain
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ASOUE is one of my favorite stories no matter my age, so idk

celest zephyr
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he is still a baby

celest zephyr
slow violet
rustic mountain
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I watched both the movie and the Netflix series

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And it's about 3 orphans trying to escape a madman essentially

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To say more might be spoilers

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So I stay away from that

celest zephyr
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alr

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where do they sell the books?

slow violet
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barnes and nobles

rustic mountain
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Most normal booksellers

celest zephyr
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alr

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thanks 👍

rustic mountain
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Barnes is a good one but A little expensive

dim kettle
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Better get to barnes and nobles before Amazon inevitably kills another book store

slow violet
rustic mountain
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B&N will be okay for a while

dim kettle
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"For a while"

slow violet
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ya i don't think so

rustic mountain
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I fear that most book sellers not named amazon or thriftbooks will go away

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But B&N seems strong still

slow violet
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i do wish they carried more manga though

dim kettle
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Amazon will make the stores disappear like a lot of your digitally purchased books on Amazon.

rustic mountain
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Shit manga is taking over my B&N

slow violet
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lucky

slow violet
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for us we got a small section, thats basically some of the newer ones

rustic mountain
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I don't buy digital copies unless I own a physical one

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I have a kindle and many digital copies, but I don't buy anything I don't have physically

slow violet
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does anyone have a Nook or a kindle

rustic mountain
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I enjoy my kindle but I recognize that I dont own the books on it

slow violet
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how is it compared to a regular tablet. I try to get physical books, because i am on the computer so much for work. I try to limit my screen time off work

dim kettle
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Well, I keep hearing the myth that you don't own what you bought digitally. Well, if it ever went to court, the US would slam companies like Amazon. Digital content is a good, not a service no matter what the EULA says.

rustic mountain
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It's amazing compared to a tablet

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I love it

rustic mountain
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Because I don't trust big time companies

slow violet
rustic mountain
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Besides, I love physical books anyway and a kindle edition rarely is more than 10 dollars

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If I love an author enough, 10 more dollars is fine

dim kettle
dim kettle
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It has happened everywhere else but the US at this moment I believe.

slow violet
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someone sueing them?

rustic mountain
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I just assume the worst with digital ownership. Until actual protections are made

slow violet
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man with our weeb content if it goes to the supreme court we are doomed fellas 😭 these boomers won't understand

dim kettle
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A bunch of supreme courts declared that bought digital content were goods.

rustic mountain
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I mean they should be

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We paid money for them

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They arent long term rentals or shouldnt be

dim kettle
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The same rules apply to merch too. If I bought a Bucs hat, I don't own the Bucs, but I own that particular thing of the Bucs. I can sell it, give it to a friend, or even burn it if I wanted too.

rustic mountain
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Trust me man I am right there with yoh

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You

slow violet
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man i just fear that NFL playoff games are going to be PPV in the future

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😭 fuck goodell

rustic mountain
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They already are

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At least some

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Peacock and Amazon

dim kettle
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Streaming is the new cable.

slow violet
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soon we will be paying $100 to watch just that one game

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not even have the service

rustic mountain
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Tbh the more streamers that get exclusive games the more I am gonna just bounce

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I can't stand subscriptions

dim kettle
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I'd just listen to the radio at that point,

slow violet
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i would just watch the highlights at that point

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speaking of highlights, one thing thats annoying about the NFL. Why do they always spoil the winner on the thumbnail 🤦‍♂️

dim kettle
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I wish they did it like they did on their website years ago. They would have the radio commentary and everything.

weak gull
rustic mountain
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They aint worth 3 dollars

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I am telling you rn

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You can make way better ones at home for way less

honest umbra
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I make better ones at home

dim kettle
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slow violet
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if i had to guess, its probably because its tied to redzone

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they probably grab the feed from redzone

dim kettle
celest zephyr
dim kettle
proud coyote
#

Pretty cool to see though lol, guess I’m a chargers fan as well now

rustic mountain
#

Bowman and Hightower both looking to become linebackers coaches

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I am old

rustic ore
#

It hurts

proud coyote
rustic mountain
#

Hey I was at least still in highschool when we drafted him lmao

#

not by much

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But it's the little things lmao

#

It is so weird tho

hasty mesa
#

Funniest thing I’ve seen all day:

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@torn gale @robust grotto @desert palm

short flame
short flame
celest zephyr
hasty mesa
#

His face is like an Office character’s

short flame
rustic ore
#

Former Michigan QB and likely 1st round pick in the draft in April

hasty mesa
short flame
rustic ore
#

More so to mock him because of his continued failures in the playoffs since taking over Dallas

short flame
rustic ore
#

Nyet

short flame
rustic ore
#

The last time they won the Superbowl VCRs were still all the rage

short flame
rustic ore
#

Russian word for no

#

Was just feeling a tad silly in making that response

short flame
#

Don’t get yourself in trouble

rustic ore
#

@dim kettle JuPeter

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Gotta love Jerry Jones

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(For reference, Brooks became one of the greatest Linebackers of all time and eventually was elected to the Pro Football HOF)

short flame
#

Were they at least a good team before that draft?

dim kettle
rustic ore
#

I mean they technically won it in 96 but that was at the conclusion of the 95 season

dim kettle
#

It was the 1995 season. That’s correct

short flame
dim kettle
#

Still very weird to see the likes of Sapp and Brooks in the old creamsicle unis.

short flame
#

Tottenham once decided they were too good and didn’t sign anyone during a transfer window. They had finished third the year before. How did they think they couldn’t improve 330

rustic ore
#

Things that happened in the same time period that the Cowboys won their last world title: The Nintendo 64 and Super Mario 64 debuted (as did the PS1), the final season of the original Sailor Moon anime began, Disney bought ABC's parent company for 19 billion dollars, Space Jam 1 WAKAINU , California Love by 2Pac reached #1 on the Billboard 100, Dolly the Sheep was born, 1st version of Java was released, the 1st ever Pokemon games were released in Japan, Tom Holland/Zendaya/Hailee Steinfeld/Lorde/Devin Booker/Anya Taylor-Joy/Timo Werner/Sophie Turner (GOT fame) were all born

short flame
#

Timo werner sneaking into that list

rustic ore
#

Had to be nice for my Soccer peeps in here

short flame
#

You chose a meme player but thank you from the football fans of the server

#

1995 was also the first year Ronnie won the uk masters for the first time

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He’s won it 8 times since including this year

slow violet
dim kettle
#

Also WCW Nitro debut.

rustic ore
short flame
#

Oh Coman LuffyPog

slow violet
rustic ore
#

I ain't got a clue who any of these dudes are QueenKEKW

short flame
#

I saw the list and learned Dangelo Russel’s whole career

rustic ore
#

Kinda sad the highlight of that guy's career was ratting out Nick Young for cheating on Iggy Azalea G5Laugh

rustic ore
#

He did, I just find that funny

dim kettle
short flame
#

He won the MIP

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I can’t believe there’s a trophy for that KataOmegaLUL

rustic ore
#

Side note, Joe Thuney ruled out for the SB

#

Rough loss for KC

dim kettle
#

Somehow the Chiefs still win

short flame
rustic ore
slow violet
rustic ore
#

I'm pretty sure neither team had a guy attacked by a Coyote

rustic ore
short flame
slow violet
#

oh ya someone got attacked

short flame
short flame
slow violet
#

It was him

#

hes out for the game

rustic ore
short flame
#

Oh he’s a furry

rustic ore
#

And a bank robber

#

Like legit he robbed banks

short flame
slow violet
#

both

rustic ore
slow violet
#

i don't blame him

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its tough out here

#

mans from KC, tickets probably use to cost like $30 dollars G5Laugh now these celebrities jacking up the prices

rustic ore
#

Side note

short flame
#

We did it

rustic ore
#

Still super fucked that the Lions announced they're raising regular season tickets next season by a ton as soon as they locked up the division

#

Like at least gradually increase over a couple years

#

Finally give your fans something the cheer about and that's how you thank them

slow violet
#

sheila gonna give that ford discount

#

few hours at the factory we in this bitch

#

if i had to guess @rustic ore most likely scalpers probably bought up tickets too fast.

short flame
robust grotto
#

@dim ledge

short flame
#

Oh it’s komachiyo

slow violet
fleet orbit
rustic mountain
paper spire
short flame
# paper spire

Here I was hoping he would go for hockey but f1 is nice

honest umbra
#

that’s cool

#

didn’t know he drove as well

short flame
#

Page is called f1_troll

slow violet
#

its confirmed, i saw Messi and Toto together

weak gull
#

Sucks, but I knew it was coming. My friend still in sales with them said it was coming back in like week 6

slow violet
#

@weak gull i honestly don't think its that big of a deal. I think its more related to price adjustment and protection against scalpers than it is just raising for no reason

rustic mountain
#

Moral of the story: everything is expensive, everyone is out to get whatever they can, pick your shit wisely

weak gull
#

I guess. This shit is just how sports goes though imo

stoic topaz
hasty basin
chilly flare
#

Spurs vs Brighton score predictions?

hasty basin
#

2-1

short flame
hasty basin
#

Richy own goal

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Madders, Kulu and Gross goals

hasty basin
#

Pen brighton

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Gross goal

hasty basin
#

Richy misses 1 on 1

chilly flare
#

Good save

short flame
hasty mesa
#

So now we come to a conclusion

#

We either answer the question of “what more could TJ have done”

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Or we say “DPOY is for the best player on the best defense”

#

Which means it’s a team dependent award

sweet tree
#

that header is wild

proud coyote
#

It’s the “MVP is most VALUABLE not BEST!!” argument which is barely observed

calm mulch
#

Bro the lakers better hope someone else eliminates the Nuggets in the playoffs (IF the lakers even make it)

#

because if there is a team that looks like they are unbeatable for the lakers it's certainly the Nuggets

#

they got unceremoniously defeated for the last 6 times they faced each other

sweet tree
#

lakers are donezo

celest zephyr
#

Ah man that was so stupid

sweet tree
#

nunez

#

lol all 4 goals have been headers

hasty basin
#

Wlep

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It was 2-1

#

We lost badly tho ffs

calm mulch
hasty basin
#

Qatar just won Asian cup back to back

sweet tree
#

they had 3 pens

#

that's crazy

hasty basin
#

Hmm

sweet tree
#

peep all goals

#

afif got a hatty

hasty basin
short flame
fluid moat
#

Snore

#

Glad I didn’t watch the game then

slow violet
# hasty mesa https://vxtwitter.com/jjwatt/status/1756069984844022178?s=46

honestly idk when voting ended, but ok most people say MG was absent for like 6 weeks. I think after the Denver game he played the rest of the season with a shoulder injury. However just watching him play i honestly thought MG was a more dominent force this year if you consider the browns overall defensive line and how many double teams he was shedding. As a pure pass rusher I thought he was a better player this year. However, if you look at the overall year yes TJ played better. I think of DEnds, MG faced the second most double teams only behind micah and in fairness the cowboys interior is better than the browns.

weak gull
#

Mind you I think Crosbys ability to be a dominant run stopper goes unrecognized. Cause he’s as good as the other 3 if we consider that with his pass rushing ability

slow violet
#

i am not surprised by crosby, feel his snub was mainly because of team narrative

noble fractal
#

man bundesliga games today got all delayed

#

ppl really pissed about this whole investor thing

hollow wind
#

Fucking lakers lol

#

87-74 at the half

slow violet
noble fractal
#

There was a voting

torn gale
#

Giants could use him

slow violet
#

when Sauce isn't holding 😭

noble fractal
#

a voting between clubs of yhe 1st 2nd and 3rd liga on whether they should let saudi millionaires invest into the bundesliga

#

the majority voted yes

noble fractal
#

yeah fans are mad bc they don't want the bundesliga to get a bunch of manchester city like clubs

slow violet
#

ok one thing to be fair, i haven't watched bundesliga in a while but when i did watch a few years ago. It wasn't competitive aside from like 2 teams

noble fractal
#

The problem with bundesliga is bayern

slow violet
#

and most of it was a financial issue. Bayern just basically bought all the best players from the other teams

noble fractal
#

yeah bayern won the league like 11 years in a row

short flame
noble fractal
#

dortmund had a real chance to dethrone them last year but they had to bottle it UsoppGrief

#

Idc I blame bayern for all thats wrong with the bundesliga

rustic mountain
noble fractal
#

sick of seeing these bavarians winning every year

sweet tree
weak gull
short flame
# slow violet and most of it was a financial issue. Bayern just basically bought all the best ...

Because why wouldn’t the other players want to be at Bayern. You want trophies, a stable club, international competition, a chance to get into your national team. Even Dortmund who are their biggest competition you don’t want to go there. Like you’re not going to be stable at Dortmund because they’re not in the business of keeping players. Why would you want to go to a place where all they want is to sell you when you can go to Bayern where you’ll be treated well

rustic mountain
noble fractal
#

bayern is playing against leverkursen right now if bayern looses they gap will widden and bayern will loose this years league YamatoCope

#

kane brought the Tottenham curse I believe in it

#

🙏

slow violet
short flame
#

And the others don’t try to stop them, others got to up their game. Even if Bayern doesn’t call they’ll sell to other teams. It’s not only in bundesliga, a lot of clubs just exist for the intents of selling players and I don’t see why a player would be interested of staying at a place like that

sweet tree
#

those other teams already have it tough to compete against bayern

#

there's no salary cap in these leagues, it's just more likely the richer team will win.

weak gull
sweet tree
#

as I said it's more of a football issue than a bayern issue imo

#

new manager bounce

slow violet
#

yes coming from american sports, mostly the nfl. the financial situation of other sports leagues around the world is very sad. If it wasn't for UCL, idk how people can continuously watch bayern win the bundesliga 20 times if they arn't their favorite team. Its like why even buy tickets or cheer 🤣

sweet tree
#

honestly suprised roma is winning

short flame
# slow violet like i said its a financial issue, the rest of the teams can't sustain themselve...

Yeah but I don’t see why that’s Bayern’s problem, they’re a business not a charity. Do you want them to send people to the rest of the league for free to make it competitive. Others should inspire themselves from Bayern and go look for investors, like Leipzig has money from one of the biggest sports companies in the world and all they do is sell like every other club in the bundesliga appart from Bayern

sweet tree
#

la liga is also like a 2 horse race with atletico winning it every once in a while, most domestic leagues are just like this lol.

noble fractal
dim kettle
sweet tree
#

even then its still a hard climb for them to win

#

I think madrid are still the favorites

short flame
#

It’s that guardiola effect

short flame
noble fractal
#

LEVERKURSEN 1:0

sweet tree
#

let's go

noble fractal
sweet tree
#

you are a Stuttgart fan right

noble fractal
#

yes

#

but I'm also a bayern hater

sweet tree
#

nice, I hope they keep it up would be nice to see them in the UCL next year

noble fractal
#

VFB is currently 3rd place which is good given that we were in relegation last year BuggyHAA

sweet tree
#

yeah that's a crazy jump

noble fractal
#

The guy who scored was in. bayern

#

he is a loan KataOmegaLUL

sweet tree
#

if you removed bayern, the rest of the league is chaotic

rustic mountain
#

Why can't we take Daniels and sign Brissett lmao

noble fractal
#

meanwhole union berlin was 4th and made it to UCL last year but this year they are at the bottom for some reason this season

haughty moss
#

he will be a pat soon, truss

sweet tree
#

el shaarawy is only 31???

#

damn he started playing quite early with Milan, feels like I've watched him forever

short flame
sweet tree
#

bellingham 2-0, gg girona

sweet tree
#

same lol

short flame
sweet tree
#

roma

#

just scored vs inter

short flame
#

I thought he was either retired or in a retirement league

sweet tree
#

madrid are playing without a CB

#

this is honestly kinda hilarious, girona gotta do better

#

3 fullbacks and a DM

#

😭

thorn hornet
#

Nah, I'd win

sweet tree
#

you didn't get TOTY Messi?

thorn hornet
#

2 come back, 3 get injured

sweet tree
#

i saw there was a glitch where like half of the fifa players packed Messi lol

thorn hornet
sweet tree
thorn hornet
#

I think thats the console version

sweet tree
#

ah

thorn hornet
#

Arsenal play tomorrow

#

I hope to see Jorginho in middle and Havertz up top

sweet tree
#

feels like hammers winning

#

or getting a draw

thorn hornet
#

We ain't losing to West Ham thrice

#

I hope

noble fractal
#

none of the premiers league match ups seem interesting this week tbh

thorn hornet
#

I was watching Heat 1995 and I didn't even know there were any games

noble fractal
#

at least united gets to play against aston villa tomorrow

#

united slander is always funny

thorn hornet
#

I need a favour from United

#

It's addictive as shit

torn gale
#

at this point I’m prepared to select nabers at 6

#

We are gonna suffer through another fucking year of Daniel jones

hasty mesa
#

If we draft Bowers or Alt kill me

torn gale
#

I don’t want to take McCarthy unless daboll really really likes him

hasty mesa
#

Bowers will be a second coming of Saquon but at a diff position

#

Good players picked by the wrong team

torn gale
#

It’s either mortgage a lot for the qb or suffer another year

hasty mesa
#

We’ll see

torn gale
noble fractal
#

2:0

#

Leverkursen LETSBUGGINGGO

sweet tree
#

Grimaldo

#

been a good signing for em

#

Bellingham 3-0, should be the match

#

girona didn't really show up lol

celest zephyr
#

Nah its just doing due diligence

#

Also truth be told the patriots are such a talent barren team that its not unreasonable to think that maybe getting three firsts and adding talent throughout the team is a better outcome than having one qb with barely any talent around them

sweet tree
#

girona are frauds 😭

#

man what the hell is this couto perfomance

#

from getting cooked by vini and now losing the ball in his half... awful

honest umbra
sweet tree
#

yep

#

the first time they lost to them they put on a decent perfomance

honest umbra
#

i mean this soldifies we are playing for second which is important for the Saudi cup money lol

sweet tree
#

they've been nonexistent this game against a backline that doesn't have a real CB

honest umbra
#

isn’t rms whole back line injured too?

sweet tree
#

yuh

#

it's been lightwork for them

honest umbra
#

their midfield and attack are insane

honest umbra
#

I don’t doubt it

sweet tree
#

have u seen vini this game

#

hes been wild lol

honest umbra
#

haven’t watched this game

thorn hornet
#

Vini is unplayable

#

Is that Megan Rapinoe?

sweet tree
#

that makes it a 5 point gap from 1st to 2nd, its likely over for girona

sweet tree
#

especially for girona but he's been getting cooked this game

thorn hornet
#

This might be Madrid's easiest game of the season

#

If they let Joselu score it's joever

noble fractal
hasty mesa
sweet tree
#

true

#

spurs DNA

honest umbra
#

it looks like Bayern have been outplayed too

#

like it’s not a fluke

noble fractal
#

bayern has been sleeping the whole game long

fluid moat
#

Inter are actually insane it’s so annoying

#

I can see them reaching the UCL final again

noble fractal
#

3:0

#

Neuer left and went to leverkursen's goal post lmao

sweet tree
#

5 point gap right?

noble fractal
#

yep

#

Can't blame him for joining the offense but this is too funny lol

sweet tree
#

decent gap but with bayern I guess anything is possible for them. Tho I dont think Leverkusen will pull a BVB disasterclass

smoky fable
sweet tree
smoky fable
noble fractal
short flame
sweet tree
fluid moat
#

The Marotta classic

#

Not so fun when he does it with a rival team

#

But Juventus starts every game with “Filip Kostic”

sweet tree
#

lol tuchel is really disliked by bayern fans

restive vector
#

Go stars LETSBUGGINGGO

slow violet
#

or is that just the super bowl teams?

robust grotto
slow violet
#

ah ok

sweet tree
#

barcola what a player

hasty basin
#

We are having an awful game

calm mulch
#

Ayo wtf the Mavs now basically have a superteam

#

Derrick Lively, Kyrie, Pj Washington, Gafford, TTJ, Josh Green and Kleber ? tf is this

restive vector
#

Dallas-area sports LETSBUGGINGGO

restive vector
short flame
#

You humiliated me I had to fight back

calm mulch
#

Bro the OKC Thunder were the 1st seed before their match against the Mavs, now they are in 4th...

#

The west is going to be a knife fight, so many good teams

slow violet
#

alright its almost time, lets get prediction for tomorrows game. I ain't watching that shit but lets get a feel

#

mine : 31-14 chiefs

sweet tree
#

Chiefs 24-17

short flame
#

Ok good I seem to be in the good numbers for the score. I was worried because I don’t know how it’s scored KataOmegaLUL

fleet orbit
#

@weak gull I saw the Michigan store …. Ouch

weak gull
#

Been like 2 weeks since I have

#

Once jufraud gone I will

fleet orbit
weak gull
#

They’re getting spanked by anyone besides osu

fleet orbit
#

Nebraska is kinda decent this year

weak gull
#

I know, but I really don’t even care to watch Michigan play

#

It doesn’t matter to me

fleet orbit
#

I genuinely think just get rid of Howard and get a legit coach and they’re back

weak gull
#

Could be the case, cupboard definitely isn’t bare

torn gale
#

Unserious family

#

Lol

dim kettle
torn gale
#

Wholesome

#

Purdy gotta grow a beard or something though

dim kettle
#

"I tried to be a tough guy. But I couldn't grow my damn beard in!"

torn gale
#

That must be surreal though

#

The kid you used to teach is a qb in the Super Bowl

proud coyote
honest umbra
proud coyote
#

yep, 24

#

very weird to me still

#

I think the age where I became older than sports players was the one where I just ceased counting

calm mulch
amber grove
celest zephyr
#

a

noble fractal
#

bc his club sucks now BBPieSmile

smoky fable
thorn hornet
#

Pain

hasty basin
#

Kiwior Kiwior Kiwior

#

I hope Cedric subs on

#

Is sofascore cooking @robust grotto

#

Ben Johnson rw

amber grove
#

Nickelodeon dropped probably the best hype video for the Super Bowl

thorn hornet
#

Despite WHU's poor form I'm still not positive

mental elk
robust grotto
#

Gg guys @thorn hornet @burnt cedar

hasty basin
#

The lineup thingy just showed Ben Johnson LW

#

What's going on

#

Let's take a shot everytime Kiwior mistake

thorn hornet
#

Kiwior at LB Havertz LCM, gonna be a long day

smoky fable
#

0-0 so far

hasty basin
#

WHAT A SAVE

thorn hornet
#

Snoozefest

#

Areola with Areola performance so far as usual

#

SALIBA

#

Yeah dude

#

Sigh another set piece goal

#

Rice corner assist LETSBUGGINGGO he's insane on corners

robust grotto
#

And that’s game over

#

Been fun

thorn hornet
#

We've been so good so far

robust grotto
#

Yup, sharp and nonstop

thorn hornet
#

I'm afraid of potato salad man

#

He always turns up

robust grotto
#

That would imply us moving the ball forwards

#

You’re good my friend

thorn hornet
#

Thanks

#

WHU are usually our bogey teams

#

PEN

robust grotto
#

😭 I’ve only seen 2 wins against you guys in the league

#

Across like 9 years

thorn hornet
#

Oh thats a dive

#

From this angle

#

Bukayo please my son

#

GOAL

hasty basin
#

Boooom

#

I was so scared

thorn hornet
#

2-0 most dangerous lead

hasty basin
#

Because he missed the pen vs West Ham

#

Before

thorn hornet
#

I wont have hope until I see the 3rd

hasty basin
#

Fpl is UP

thorn hornet
#

His 50th goal for us

hasty basin
#

Yeah

thorn hornet
#

Boy is fucking magic

#

11 goals from corners, unreal

#

GABRIEL

#

3-0

#

Rice assist number 2

hasty basin
#

It's over

#

Gabi in FPL as well

#

😎 Cooking

robust grotto
#

Oh yeah

noble fractal
#

damn

robust grotto
#

This is a pure spanking

noble fractal
#

its not even halftime

robust grotto
#

I’m not embarrassed, this was the only outcome today tbh

hasty basin
#

7 mins added

robust grotto
#

Dropping like a rock in the standings

burnt cedar
#

@robust grotto Moyes never coached a set piece?

#

Defending on that one was terrible

hasty basin
#

Welp

#

This is

thorn hornet
#

TROSSARD

hasty basin
#

Oh no

robust grotto
thorn hornet
#

GG Lunik

#

Sorry bro

robust grotto
#

Well deserved bro

chilly flare
#

This got ugly fast lol

thorn hornet
#

What the fuck lol, I expected a 2-1 loss

#

I'm not used to this

#

Arsenal???? Finishing???

burnt cedar
#

Need one more goal just to make sure

#

Otherwise can see this being 4-4

thorn hornet
#

Why 7 minutes added time?

#

I haven't watched the first ten mins

#

Did sum happen

robust grotto
#

Naw we’re in bad form despite the draws

burnt cedar
#

Can’t believe everyone’s just left

robust grotto
#

Croco saw us, we struggled hard against Bournemouth. Got physically wrecked by Bristol, lost to them. Couldn’t score against Sheffield

burnt cedar
#

Might try to go to the stadium now and get in

robust grotto
burnt cedar
#

If anything the fans should storm the pitch

#

Get the game voided

robust grotto
#

Not even Danny Ings can save this game :/

#

We are a finished club

#

Def dropping like a rock. We’ll never get back up to 6th or 7th this season

thorn hornet
#

No offence,I should've saw this coming when you drew Sheffield

robust grotto
#

I’ve been saying brotha

#

I don’t mean to be negative just to be negative

#

Been over a month of this

#

We can’t move the ball and we’re physically slow

#

Oldest squad in the PL and the shortest bench in the PL

robust grotto
#

Proud of my fellow hammers

#

Ben Johnson, a natural defender, is starting high for the second straight game while Max Cornet, a natural forward, is on the bench

#

( he’s better than Cornet, it’s just funny how things work out for us )

burnt cedar
thorn hornet
burnt cedar
#

I remember that game

#

Title race ended cause of that draw

thorn hornet
#

@burnt cedar Curtis Jones can we celebrate?

#

Slight first bump and slight yes under your breath

burnt cedar
robust grotto
#

quite literally, we are the oldest and the slowest pl team

#

And Bowen, god bless him, is too small to play up top imo

thorn hornet
#

He's better on the wing

#

You need a quality forward

burnt cedar
#

Always see Mubama on the bench

#

Is he just not good

thorn hornet
#

You let go of Scamacca but idk of thats the issue

burnt cedar
thorn hornet
#

Is that Kalvin Phillips holy shit??