Good then become a jets fan and you can watch both!
#sports
celest zephyr
smoky fable
justin watson drop
hasty mesa
Tommy Devito actually about to drop 5 TDs on the Pats
haughty moss
15 mins left #riseup 
torn gale
Tommy Devito actually about to drop 5 TDs on the Pats
No thanks
honest umbra
Keep that mentality
celest zephyr
Shut up rams fan
hasty basin
Alright
smoky fable
touchback
hasty basin
I'll hate them too
celest zephyr
Enjoy your lack of picks
haughty moss
Tommy Devito actually about to drop 5 TDs on the Pats
QB1 I seen enough
torn gale
Don’t want to trick Mara into thinking Devito is a franchise qb
honest umbra
We have our first round pick next year doe
haughty moss
2-9 otw thx g-men
celest zephyr
No not just qb1 the best qb of his generation
torn gale
Nah
dim kettle
Being a Bucs fan is torture. Being a Jets fan you’re expecting nothing and still be let down
torn gale
Y’all gonna be 3-8
celest zephyr
Yeah I know I meant all of the rest of them
haughty moss
celest zephyr
And look how ass y’all are now
haughty moss
2-9
celest zephyr
Fun
honest umbra
Being a Bucs fan is torture. Being a Jets fan you’re expecting nothing and still...
And when u expect something, ur franchise QB gets injured one minute into the season
torn gale
Thank god I’m not a jets fan
slate lance
This is so horrendous dawg chiefs receivers
sweet tree
watson could've made that catch
dim ledge
Lol Eagles are stinky rn
celest zephyr
Also cuz the eagles don’t bother showing up until they have to
If it ain’t five minutes left they fall asleep
hasty basin
I searched Atlanta Falcons and most viewed vid on yt and it was the 28-3 
haughty moss
hasty mesa
Honey wake up new Mahomes/Reid StateFarm commercial just dropped
celest zephyr
dim kettle
I searched Atlanta Falcons and most viewed vid on yt and it was the 28-3 <:Zunes...
At least you get to see them get free 2 wins over the Bucs most years
slate lance
Screen passes
hasty mesa
Screen passes
dim kettle
At least we agree on something. Fuck the ‘Aints
dim ledge
Hurts lol
hasty basin
That doesn't seem promising
dim kettle
It’s a Bucs Eagles Life
dim ledge
Please feed brown
dim kettle
That doesn't seem promising
They actually are interesting watches
slate lance
ONG
smoky fable
SMITH AGAIN
slow violet
WOW Huge
dim kettle
Are expansion teams as "bad" generally as
I mean my Bucs started 0-26 to start their franchise
smoky fable
TD Hurts
sweet tree
wow what a throw
smoky fable
Flag thoough
slate lance
Here goes this tush push shit
hasty basin
Guess it's worse
smoky fable
TD stands
dim kettle
But the last 3 expansion franchises been been mid to good to start their franchises
slate lance
They did that drive in 2:36 minutes.
sweet tree
how do you even stop the tush push lol
hasty mesa
how do you even stop the tush push lol
You can't
rustic ore
how do you even stop the tush push lol
Get a Vita Vea
slate lance
They only lost it once this season
hasty mesa
Not w this Oline/scheme
slate lance
To commanders
dim kettle
The NFL saw how much they botched the Bucs in the 70s and made the expansion drafts more fair for the Jaguars, Panthers, and Texans
sweet tree
yeah i remember we stopped them
hasty basin
Ah
hasty mesa
To commanders
Bro I swear how does Washington play Philly hard
But then crumble to NY
Every time
smoky fable
Bro I swear how does Washington play Philly hard
They had a good defensive line
restive vector
Come on chiefs 
hasty basin
Should've caught up after a few good lottery picks
smoky fable
But they traded Sweat away
dim kettle
NFL doesn’t have lotto drafts btw
hasty mesa
They had a good defensive line
Wasn't Giants game 1 before that?
hasty basin
Oh
torn gale
Chiefs better win man I can’t stand the eagles
smoky fable
Wasn't Giants game 1 before that?
Thought it was after
dim kettle
Worst team get’s the first pick
slate lance
Bro I swear how does Washington play Philly hard
It’s so hilarious how good commies offense plays against eagles lmao
smoky fable
Eagles commanders played really early
torn gale
Fraudulent ass team
sweet tree
Get a Vita Vea
that's a big boy
restive vector
Chiefs better win man I can’t stand the eagles
So true
rustic ore
They had a good defensive line
Had being the operative word 
dim kettle
Yep. No dumb lotto
honest umbra
Did you guys like the tush push?
smoky fable
Had being the operative word <:330:682048678185533567>
Yeah not anymore
slate lance
No
hasty basin
Poor Pistons
dim kettle
Pistons even blow the lotto. 
hasty basin
hasty basin
Can't believe I used to watch that team while Drummond was their "star"
hasty basin
I guess same can be said about Kemba but he's a different case
haughty moss
Soon to be pats
dawn tapir
who do you think is currently leading in the MVP race?
hasty mesa
who do you think is currently leading in the MVP race?
Unironically skill players are in the mix
Cuz of middling QB play
dim kettle
I sat through the torture of Orlando Magic basketball the last decade. Thank god, it looks to be done and over with.
hasty mesa
So CMC, Tyreek
hasty basin
I sat through the torture of Orlando Magic basketball the last decade. Thank god...
I actually try to watch the Magic as much as I can
Because of Goga
I'm glad someone gave him minutes finally...
dawn tapir
So CMC, Tyreek
Myles Garrett perhaps?
hasty basin
Guardplay looks crazy though
smoky fable
encroachment
hasty mesa
And prob won't be ever
I think Mahomes and Hurts are top of MVP convos for QBs
Stroud has entered the convo
Will he get it? No but he's in the convo
Which is huge for a rookie
dim kettle
Randy Orton is coming back at Survivor Series
slow violet
if Jalen is HIM, this game is over
fleet orbit
Pre week 11
Tyreek makes Tua seem much better than he actually is
hasty mesa
Tyreek makes Tua seem much better than he actually is
I disagree w that narrative
Tua has lightning quick throws and decision making
dawn tapir
Pre week 11
Man if Dak somehow wins it cowboys fans will be out of control
hasty mesa
I respect that
hasty mesa
Man if Dak somehow wins it cowboys fans will be out of control
It's a joke
Man dots up the Giants and gets all this hype
dim kettle
Tyreek makes Tua seem much better than he actually is
It’s actually not that far off. Tua has shown he can play up to the talent around him.
hasty mesa
It’s actually not that far off. Tua has shown he can play up to the talent aroun...
He's a great complement to all the speed around him
Mike McDaniels knows what he's doing
dim kettle
Phins are like the anti-BEARS FOOTBALL!! in this category. Yes, Chicago, you can actually help your young QB by getting talent and a good coach
haughty moss
Pre week 11
slow violet
Why does jalen keep trying to run the ball bruh
torn gale
Chiefs need to win
smoky fable
Chiefs get the ball back
torn gale
Let’s see some mahomes magic
restive vector
Go chiefs 
torn gale
There isn’t anything in this world I hate more than the eagles and Philadelphia
haughty moss
As a hater I need this eagles loss
slate lance
Swift having more receptions than AJ is so crazy
restive vector
Fuck the eagles
smoky fable
downed at the 8
haughty moss
silk pine
Pre week 11
they should literally just make a QBOY award at this point
smoky fable
He's got to go 92 yards
silk pine
torn gale
Mahomes magic
Eagles are so fake but the nfc is so soft they’ll likely skip into the nfc chip game
As long as the niners don’t die to injury they should beat them ideally
dawn tapir
Eagles are so fake but the nfc is so soft they’ll likely skip into the nfc chip ...
not so fast the lions will stop them trust it. 🙏
dim kettle
Ideally. But then you remember the Niners have a 10 point lead in the 4th quarter ready to blow
smoky fable
Kelce drop
torn gale
not so fast the lions will stop them trust it. 🙏
True…
smoky fable
Kelce makes it up
torn gale
Evil mustn’t prosper
sweet tree
there we go
slate lance
WOW
haughty moss
silk pine
nimble onyx
Facts
dawn tapir
Refs fucking suck
refs been really bad this season compared to the last few years.
dawn tapir
they just get worse and worse every year
imagine in the future they replace refs with robots.
restive vector
Damn
sacred kite
PHEW
sweet tree
how they dropping those
dawn tapir
lol
sweet tree
omg....
smoky fable
intentional grounding
sacred kite
100%
smoky fable
that's probably game
slate lance
Herbert got a flashback
hasty mesa
That drop represents this year's Chiefs
That's def how they lose in the divisional or AFCCG yeah?
Some drop in endzone?
dawn tapir
That's def how they lose in the divisional or AFCCG yeah?
could be. Mahomes has never lost in the divisional tho.. so we'll see.
slate lance
That's def how they lose in the divisional or AFCCG yeah?
CG
he’s not losing a divisional
smoky fable
eagles win
restive vector
It's over
sacred kite
LETS GOOOO
slow violet
LOOOL WTF
dawn tapir
he’s not losing a divisional
imagine he loses in the wildcard 
full sonnet
Bruh that chiefs receiver needs to retire 🤡🤡
sweet tree
lost for words
sacred kite
A WIN IS A WIN
haughty moss
These receivers ass
sacred kite
Def feels like the chiefs lost this one moreso than the eagles won it
full sonnet
How do u fumble that play just HOW
haughty moss
full sonnet
Freaking disgrace. This is the problem chiefs needs to invest in good receivers since tyreek left we only have potato chips who can’t make a simple catch
slate lance
Freaking disgrace. This is the problem chiefs needs to invest in good receivers ...
It’s way worse than last year
Kelce literally gets doubled he can’t find him enough
haughty moss
Broo these receivers 🥲
You had a good run brother gg
full sonnet
In all honesty if we had good receivers we’d probably even go undefeated
Just terrible front board can’t even retain tyreek 🤡
slate lance
Tee Higgins you are a Kansas City Chiefs
versed forge
https://vxtwitter.com/Underdog__NFL/status/1726816676799217770
💔
dim kettle
dim kettle
Looks like Chiefs fans are asking, Tell me Why?. Hahahahaha. Only I get that one
hasty mesa
https://fixupx.com/scootermagruder/status/1726807742579454234?s=46&t=6zYeacLKll2...
TRUE
dawn tapir
the number 1 seed in the AFC in the playoffs could be a tossup between the browns, ravens, Dolphins, Jags, Chiefs 
full sonnet
I feel bad for Mahomes
hasty mesa
dawg we been seeing this shit since week 1
Right?
full sonnet
He has to carry this garbage bag to the playoffs every year
haughty moss
Quentin Johnston watching that drop
hasty mesa
They thought bringing back Mecole was the solution?
They saw week 1 they had fast food worker receivers
They don't make it to the SB that's on the GM
honest umbra
This is why I thought and still think chiefs can’t finish it this year
celest zephyr
ive seen enough ravens to the bowl
honest umbra
They got too many WR4s
hasty mesa
Ravens to the bowl is actually a possibility
honest umbra
Ravens to the SB is guaranteed
hasty mesa
Good year for Lamar to get his ring
celest zephyr
Good year for Lamar to get his ring
purdy*
honest umbra
goff*
smoky fable
This is why I thought and still think chiefs can’t finish it this year
They don’t have the weapons
dim kettle
I swear I saw the Chiefs turn into the Bucs that last drive
celest zephyr
ravens vs lions superbowl : the getback
versed forge
Cut mvs is trending on twitter 😭
sweet tree
LOL
celest zephyr
Cut mvs is trending on twitter 😭
should be
slate lance
Lamar SB…
celest zephyr
packers need him back
slate lance
I’m seated
sweet tree
Lions Ravens
dim kettle
We’re getting the Browns and Niners SB and the Browns will lose on a game winning FG
celest zephyr
ravens made it to playoffs without lamar, they are easily the best team in the afc
honest umbra
We’re getting the Browns and Niners SB and the Browns will lose on a game winnin...
With what qb?
celest zephyr
We’re getting the Browns and Niners SB and the Browns will lose on a game winnin...
not with dtr 💀
dawn tapir
ravens made it to playoffs without lamar, they are easily the best team in the a...
if they stay healthy that is.
dim kettle
Who needs a QB. You need BS luck
slate lance
With what qb?
The elite Joe Flacco
honest umbra
9ers needed a QB
they had the most talented squad but couldn’t do nothing against the eagles
playin whatever that man was for a QB
slate lance
Yea niners defense wasn’t even terrible that game
honest umbra
niners defense will never be the reason they ever lose a game
dim kettle
Backups in the NFC are nothing compared to the BS luck and logic of the AFC North
dim kettle
DTR and Picket AFC Champion Game. It’s in the script
honest umbra
not after what I saw last week
weak gull
The elite Joe Flacco
If they get playoff Flacco…may awaken something fr 🤣
honest umbra
browns vs Steelers was the worst game ever 😭
dim kettle
They want a third time
dim kettle
It’s like Orton vs Cena. You don’t want to see it again. But you’re getting it anyways
honest umbra
But Orton vs cena is main event
dawn tapir
i would love the superbowl to be the Texans Vs. the Lions. guaranteed a new SB winner.
weak gull
I don’t like the Texans…and not cause stroud. Hate their FO
dawn tapir
Could easily be the Jags vs the lions as well. wouldn't mind that either
weak gull
Definitely should be good
dim kettle
Could easily be the Jags vs the lions as well. wouldn't mind that either
Imagine saying that 3 years ago
honest umbra
Or 3 months ago.
Also jaguars made it to the championship game not that long ago
But lions…
They’re special
dim kettle
Jags also lost 15 straight games
honest umbra
Urban meyer tax
haughty moss
Cut mvs is trending on twitter 😭
dim kettle
And you know, the downfall and drama after that title game
weak gull
Still stickin wit this
honest umbra
I got ravens eagles too
versed forge
https://fixupx.com/newstripecity/status/1726817546311995811?s=46
Brooo 🤣🤣
dim kettle
Ravens are too frustrating for me to be confident in.
haughty moss
Lmao
dawn tapir
Also jaguars made it to the championship game not that long ago
caused them to extend blake bortles 
smoky fable
I guess the three best teams in the nfl are in the NFC then
weak gull
I def think the lions match up with Philly better than 9ers tho, so hope they pull them
dim kettle
We needed a Case Keenum vs Bortles SB damnit
dawn tapir
We needed a Case Keenum vs Bortles SB damnit
nah eagles and foles magic was just too good that year
weak gull
Nick Foles saved us though I will say, so I’ll take it
haughty moss
dim kettle
Philly winning a title is never a good thing unless it involves trash cans
weak gull
It was hard not to root for nick man
haughty moss
honest umbra
Philly winning a title is never a good thing unless it involves trash cans
Lost the WS just for u
And the SB
and the NBA playoffs
pretty sure they got eliminated far in the mls playoffs too
dim kettle
76ers it’s always a guarantee
dim kettle
Every time the Sixers lose in the playoffs, I smile knowing all those Sixer fans thinking the process was a success without winning a title first
weak gull
dim kettle
He tries to block me but Ryo knows he can’t block something that lives in his head rent-free
dawn tapir
Every time the Sixers lose in the playoffs, I smile knowing all those Sixer fans...
early 80s was the last time the 76ers won a title right?
dim kettle
Something like that
haughty moss
blocking a mich fan is easier than a buckeye fan
honest umbra
what about both of them?
haughty moss
hm nah not this week of all weeks lol
dim kettle
And somehow the Eagles lay an egg in that game
smoky fable
hm nah not this week of all weeks lol
pats and buckeyes winning this win
I guarantee it
haughty moss
dim kettle
Pats quest to win just enough meaningless games to move out of the top 5
haughty moss
seeing future pat MHJ cook them sign stealers gonna hit like crazy
dim kettle
The Jets will just do the favor and not show up to the game. They… … Got snowed in. That’s right. Snowed in. Shame. 
weak gull
pats and buckeyes winning this win
Bro cooking at 50%
weak gull
then michigan winning? aight. vinny is happy then
They are winning
Idk what yall thought this was
rustic mountain
Need to see what time the Apple Cup is
smoky fable
For the last time as PAC12 teams
haughty moss
They are winning
rustic mountain
So I am still relatively a greenhorn to college football
Does the pac 12 title game have any impact on the college football playoff
rustic mountain
Well yeah I'd imagine
I am just saying are there teams who have made the cfb playoff
And not won their conference
smoky fable
Yes
smoky fable
Ohio state last year
rustic mountain
So that's the main thing I was wondering
Oh right because OSU is one of those favored schools
Like Alabama or Notre Dame
smoky fable
Alabama has a shot if they beat Georgia in the SEC title game
Also your guy Tom agrees with you on the declining quality. @rustic mountain
rustic mountain
I mean he isn't wrong
Even teams with like 1 or 2 losses don't feel invincible or anything
And there is a lot of bad football being played
Football is also violent AF so I get the NFL's perspective on safety
I think it's a little more nuanced than Brady is saying but I do agree that football is worse than it was like say 10 years ago
And not just because my team sucks now lmao
smoky fable
There were better qbs in the past than now too
The new crop hasn’t replaced them as well
rustic mountain
We've traded ball security and great pocket play for more flash
I am not saying the players today aren't extremely talented
They are
smoky fable
Offensive line talent has gone down too
rustic mountain
But there is a ton of hero ball
smoky fable
I think they’re forced to play hero ball since there are not enough good offensive lineman
rustic mountain
Multiple factors play into it but there are way more turn overs
That feeds back into coaching for sure
sweet tree
https://vxtwitter.com/stephenasmith/status/1726777326183109004
me with footy
smoky fable
me with footy
It seems like there isn’t any major sport that has improved with modern changes
I guess baseball maybe
I was more interested in it due to the rule changes
They went quicker
rustic mountain
Baseball is better 100%
It could still use some tweaks
But it is infinitely better with the rule changes
But every sport has its problems
smoky fable
I can’t say much about hockey
rustic mountain
Hockey has a CTE problem that isn't being talked about enough
Then it has its own marketing issues
smoky fable
That problem has been quiet
rustic mountain
I am sure there are other issues
But I am not really a hockey savant or nothing
I am kind of an idiot in all sports but I enjoy them anywah
Anyway
hasty basin
weak gull
Oh right because OSU is one of those favored schools
There really wasn’t another option tbh
They had the best loss still with no other blemishes
dim kettle
Thank god the Bucs and Raiders don’t play each other. Or else it would give haters another excuse to call it Mid Piece.
weak gull
Multiple factors play into it but there are way more turn overs
I dont think that’s true
warm kestrel
@celest zephyr there was a sportstuber named UrinatingTree who does NFL Weekly Recaps and he did the two games in Germany in German.
weak gull
There were better qbs in the past than now too
I’d argue at the top end, many have been replaced fine
It’s just not as deep
weak gull
I guess. Although I feel the product has been geared more toward offense
League average of yards has gone up while turnovers have gone down significantly since 2006
We also just recently had the highest scoring year ever not too long ago
smoky fable
That’s definitely down now
weak gull
2023 isn’t done yet, but it’s still on track to go up from what it’s at now. 7 of the top 10 highest scoring years are recent
I’m talking 2013 or later
2020 and 21 are ranked 1st and 6th in highest scoring ever. 22 still cracks the top 20 and 23 will likely as well
rustic ore
Fingers crossed next year's QB class produces some studs
weak gull
The turnovers have also significantly dropped, from 2006 to now
I’m talking like 150-200 less turnovers now than in 2006/7/8 etc.
We didn’t even hit 800 total last year. Meanwhile 2006-12 had an average close to 875
smoky fable
Fingers crossed next year's QB class produces some studs
Let’s hope
celest zephyr
The turnovers have also significantly dropped, from 2006 to now
I’m talking li...
its vinny jr
celest zephyr
https://vxtwitter.com/stephenasmith/status/1726777326183109004
He’s 100% right
Even if you can’t call it mediocre, the amount of crap that could just be solved if players learned how to tackle properly and make the right reads based on the defense and who’s on the scouting report
Like you have a scouting report. Why do you need to be bailed out by the refs when you already know the tendencies of the other team just by watching tape?
I’m tired of just watching a flag for a defensive player playing defense
amber grove
https://fxtwitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1726959252420595939
Pickens finally gonna get used like he should be its a beautiful day
celest zephyr
And then the nfl gives zero fucks about actual player safety
Like if you are going to make the game into a pewee game at this point at least care about the guys’ safety
The product is shit the players are getting hurt. It’s just bad
Tbh even just watching older super bowls or the game like 4-5 years ago yeah it was significantly better
It’s been ass the past few years with all of the rules and calls they are making
amber grove
Game has been softer ever since Clay Matthews started getting this roughing calls
The NFL doesn't care they'll keep racking in their billions and they still the most watched sport in America no incentive for them to change
rustic ore
https://fxtwitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1726959252420595939
Tomlin is beyond stupid to have held onto him this long
Canada should've been booted in the offseason
deft rover
Iraq won against Vietnam in the last minute of lost time
slow violet
https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-woody-about-time-happy-excited-gif-15811226
it would be hilarious if they start collapsing .
hasty mesa
“UNREAL: Kenny Pickett hasn’t thrown a passing TD since before the fired Matt Canada” -Ari Meirov after week 16
Maybe this rest of season is where we find out Kenny Pickett is just…. bad
dim kettle
“Steelers have hired Byron Leftwich as the next Offensive Coordinator”
slow violet
lol alright maybe tomlin needs to stop drafting qbs that play like Ben. The game passed ben a long time ago
rustic ore
I mean Kenny doesn't really play like Ben though imo
Feel he runs more and doesn't throw anywhere near as many deep balls as Ben
Imagine the Steelers break the hearts of all Giants fans and hire Dorsey
celest zephyr
Feel he runs more and doesn't throw anywhere near as many deep balls as Ben
Yeah he isn’t at all ben
If he’s the mvp I’m done
hasty mesa
Imagine the Steelers break the hearts of all Giants fans and hire Dorsey
Giants Twitter is saying Daboll likes our QB coach
celest zephyr
Tbh the mvp should take a gap year
celest zephyr
No one deserves it this season
hasty mesa
No one deserves it this season
No QB really has reached that level I agree
But CMC? Tyreek?
celest zephyr
Gl fantasy bros. I sent my entire team to the unemployment line
hasty mesa
I’m saying like if there’s a year for a skill position to win MVP
celest zephyr
Like a non qb will ever win?
hasty mesa
it’s this year
hasty mesa
Like a non qb will ever win?
They should be able to
celest zephyr
Ofc yeah cmc tyreek
hasty mesa
Unfortunately narratives only allow them in OPOY conversations
celest zephyr
Garrett parsons watt for defenders
hasty mesa
Daron Bland
rustic ore
If he wins MVP it's a bad joke
rustic ore
Bland hasn’t been good rofl
In a way he's like another Trevon Diggs, gets big plays but gives up big plays/yards
rustic ore
QBs around the league have been ass so far
celest zephyr
Idk I think he’s got virtually no chance
hasty mesa
Best player on best defense
rustic ore
I'd give MVP to either Tyreek or CMC at this point
hasty mesa
Browns are number 1 in the league
celest zephyr
Parsons and watt have been balling man
hasty mesa
Of course
celest zephyr
Cowboys are top 3
hasty mesa
I’m just saying I’d give it to Garrett
rustic ore
Oh wow I didn't know Kayvon Thibodeaux already had 10 sacks on the year, good for him
Dude looks super solid so far
hasty mesa
Oh wow I didn't know Kayvon Thibodeaux already had 10 sacks on the year, good fo...
First player to have double digit sacks under Wink
He posted this:
rustic ore
Feel like it's been a hot minute since the GMen have had a player have 10 sacks
I don't want to assume the last was JPP but that's where my mind goes
hasty mesa
I don't want to assume the last was JPP but that's where my mind goes
I think so
rustic ore
https://vxtwitter.com/art_stapleton/status/1726659201437741302?s=46
That's awesome
hasty mesa
That's awesome
It’s the ty Dex for me
Btw idk if y’all are following
Dexter Lawrence is doing unreal things as a nose tackle
rustic ore
Love when dudes give love to their teammates for their own accomplishments
Oh yeah I've heard
hasty mesa
He got BETTER
rustic ore
Dude has become a beast
On a side note you'll never guess which DT has the most sacks in the league rn
hasty mesa
Quinnen?
rustic ore
Nope
hasty mesa
Idk many DTs
rustic ore
Justin Madubuike for the Ravens
hasty mesa
Damn
rustic ore
9.5
hasty mesa
Good for them
rustic ore
I wanted him coming out of college so badly
And now the salt is even worse because I knew he had huge potential
Happy for him for the success though
hasty mesa
It happens
I’m just happy Schoen guys are evolving
Another story hidden by Giants bad play is our LB core
It’s been revived
Okereke and Micah McFadden are BALLING
rustic ore
Nice
hasty mesa
Isaiah Simmons too
From Cards
Got that game winning INT
He’s so good on the field
rustic ore
Okereke always got overshadowed by Leonard in Indy so good for him getting recognized
Yeah Giants have a really solid D
Just need a QB and an O-line
hasty mesa
Yeah
When offense can play off D it’s scary
It’s nice to see us forcing turnovers too
hasty mesa
Yeah Giants have a really solid D
Wink’s job is safe
amber grove
Just need a QB and an O-line
And a real WR1
rustic ore
You sad the GMen pretty much ruined their chance at Williams/Maye with that W?
rustic ore
And a real WR1
Hyatt can become that, truss
torn gale
Out chance isnr ruined yet
torn gale
If we lose to the patriots we should be back to top 3
hasty mesa
Pats game decides if we can get back into top 3 or if we’re just fringe top 5
rustic ore
amber grove
Hyatt can become that, truss
Team em up with Marvin Harrison Jr
rustic ore
Bears for sure taking Caleb, NE or whoever Ari would trade out with taking Maye
hasty mesa
That I’m less attached to the top 2 than I was prior
torn gale
Don’t think Arizona is taking a qb
hasty mesa
Like if we land JD will I be mad?
rustic ore
So you're looking at Penix/Nix/maybe McCarthy
amber grove
The QB class is so deep
You'd be able to get decent comp for Daniel Jones in the 2-4
torn gale
Would rather daniels than all 3 of them
rustic ore
Si papi
torn gale
Fr?
dim ledge
Ye
torn gale
Wow Steelers fans got Christmas early
dim ledge
They gon make it out of the ghetto after all
celest zephyr
steelers firing a guy in the middle of a season is wild
hasty mesa
I said it earlier but imagine the narrative if Pickett does worse
rustic ore
Should've fired him in the offseason
celest zephyr
like that's not the steelers at all
they usually wait for a guy's contract to expire
i'm shocked they fired him midseason
hasty mesa
they usually wait for a guy's contract to expire
Scapegoat era of NFL coaching?
hasty mesa
Yeah I know Canada is bad
celest zephyr
it kinda is tbh
celest zephyr
not a lot of gms are getting fired rn
torn gale
Biased lsu fan but I want daniels too
celest zephyr
giants go qb anyways tbh
hasty mesa
GMs getting fired is more tricky so it makes sense
celest zephyr
don't see why they wouldn't
hasty mesa
Like how long of a leash you give your GM? Etc
celest zephyr
i get it but idk gms feel like they have a longer leash
too long at times
how the fuck is baalke still around?
hasty mesa
Like me personally I would let them draft their QB and give it 2 years, 3 if there’s good improvement
hasty mesa
Kafka is getting scapegoated
rustic ore
how the fuck is baalke still around?
Because Shad Khan is a dumb dumb owner
hasty mesa
Bobby Johnson should be fired too
rustic ore
How this man got hired as an OC after 1 year as a QB coach is beyond me
torn gale
Gonna be crazy when we draft CW and hire Lincoln Riley at OC
celest zephyr
loomis is borderline to me
torn gale
Daniels running ability could add another dimension to the offense
celest zephyr
one more bad move and i'd can him personally
ballard should have been gone years ago
rustic ore
Mickey Loomis?
Dude should've been fired years ago
They sold out to win a ring near the end of Brees's career, they failed
Since he's been gone they've constantly shat the bed with QBs
celest zephyr
yeah
idk at this point i guess they are waiting it out
dude should be gone by now though
oh he's been there since 2013 yeah he should be gone
didn't know he was there that long
rustic ore
They're stuck with Carr through next season, and by all indications the dude has been a bit of a cancer
dim kettle
Loomis just doesn’t understand the draft game. Two times now he’s traded up when he didn’t need to.
rustic ore
Should the Saints not make the playoffs this year they should fully clean house
New HC, new GM
celest zephyr
jerry jones is the cowboys president and gm????????
dim kettle
But these are the Saints. They’re like that 35 year old in a mid-life crisis
celest zephyr
hasty mesa
jerry jones is the cowboys president and gm????????
It’s Jerry’s world we’re just living in it
dim kettle
Habs, Cowboys, Yankees sitting in a bar talking about the 90s
dim ledge
So question
How are passer ratings determined and why is 158.3 "perfect"
Seems an odd number to connotate perfect
celest zephyr
passing attempts yards tds and picks
dim kettle
rustic ore
jerry jones is the cowboys president and gm????????
He owns the team and wants the credit if they do go, his ego and need for attention is just that big
dim kettle
Matt Canada will somehow become an assistant coach to the Leafs, because Canada’s his last name.
rustic ore
Hence why he always gives post game pressers
dim ledge
weak gull
https://vxtwitter.com/br_betting/status/1726826960800907599?s=46
If only a certain someone wasn’t sold by his coach and team the mvp would be easy this year
celest zephyr
Matt Canada will somehow become an assistant coach to the Leafs, because Canada’...
brad trevling will be the bucs gm next year
rustic ore
Giannis will be pleased
dim kettle
You wish. Trevling getting a lifetime contract with the Leafs
rustic mountain
Imma stay with my math
I can get behind this math
celest zephyr
is this a cmc x ray?
dim ledge
Is this a Josh Dobbs Xray?
CMC
hasty mesa
Accurate
dim kettle
Before injury
rustic ore
Or Stroud?
Josh Allen cause he's bitch made 
hasty mesa
Feel like injury prone CMC is more meme than reality
dim kettle
Memes had to come from somewhere
celest zephyr
~~*Josh Allen cause he's bitch made*~~ <:CarrotSmug:701664910865858580>
draymond green
dim ledge
That man was Carolinas whole offense
rustic ore
I mean he missed like 16 games when he was in Carolina
hasty mesa
17 straight games w a TD is literally the definition of availability
celest zephyr
with the niners yeah
rustic ore
Hence why there is concern about his durability
celest zephyr
before it was legit
hasty mesa
Hence why there is concern about his durability
Eh that's every productive RB
dim ledge
Don't think there's anyone atp saying that we lost that trade tbf
celest zephyr
same with saquon. he's been fine as of late but he was injured a lot before
weak gull
I mean he missed like 16 games when he was in Carolina
22
hasty mesa
Barkley playing good this year, offseason discussion will be about how he's a year older and will play worse
etc etc
rustic ore
Don't think there's anyone atp saying that we lost that trade tbf
Well with how shit Carolina has been drafting lately yeah SF won that trade by a mile
dim kettle
CMC was missing a lot of games with the Panthers those last 3 years. He was basically getting every snap hence the injuries
celest zephyr
yeah he doesn't have to play as much with the niners
hasty mesa
Saying the meme has to die at some point if the dude keeps showing up
dim kettle
The problem is. The IR is the Niners biggest boogeyman next to big leads in the 4th quarter
hasty mesa
If anything the meme should be Carolina CMC and San Fran CMC are two different humans
hasty mesa
The problem is. The IR is the Niners biggest boogeyman next to big leads in the ...
Yeah if they're gonna lose in playoffs it'll be due to injury to your CMCs, Kittles, Bosas
etc
celest zephyr
The problem is. The IR is the Niners biggest boogeyman next to big leads in the ...
no its having to make a clutch play at the end of the game
they don't actually blow that many leads
dim kettle
Just the ones that matter most
celest zephyr
beyond the rams game is there another one?
dim kettle
SB
hasty mesa
Kyle Shanahan when asked to launch a 4th quarter comeback
celest zephyr
eh 10 isn't that bad against mahomes lol
dim kettle
Niners had the game won
torn gale
That year every single chiefs playoff game they were down double digits
celest zephyr
because jimmy g sucks ass
torn gale
Mahomes has some absurd stat about being down double digits
hasty mesa
That year every single chiefs playoff game they were down double digits
No worries about that this year
celest zephyr
mahomes is just a dawg
hasty mesa
32nd in the league in second half scoring
celest zephyr
logic doesn't define him. being an anime protag does
i give up using any logic on mahomes
torn gale
32nd in the league in second half scoring
Matt Nagy effect
celest zephyr
why the fuck they hired him is beyond me
dim kettle
Yeah, I’m not gonna praise Mahomes a lot about with the Texans game. BoB basically handed them the game in 5 minutes
hasty mesa
I don't blame Mahomes for what's happening
weak gull
Matt Nagy effect
Don’t think it’s Nagy tbh. He called plays for the chiefs before and Andy has him leashed I’m sure
Just a scapegoat
celest zephyr
its just cuz they have two players on offense
weak gull
The offense lacks any competent wr
dim kettle
Not like the old OC is doing much better in DC rn
hasty mesa
Not like the old OC is doing much better in DC rn
Imagine getting outscored by Kafka
Wink getting 6 turnovers off you
celest zephyr
Kyle Shanahan when asked to launch a 4th quarter comeback
ngl i don't know if shanahan is just an amazing offensive guy or also a good hc
weak gull
Washington’s o line is so abysmal idk who would get them moving atp
torn gale
Crazy to see a great defense and medicore offense during the mahomes tenure
hasty mesa
ngl i don't know if shanahan is just an amazing offensive guy or also a good hc
Shanahan is an offensive genius
No question
hasty mesa
Which is why his record in the 4th quarter when trailing is weird
celest zephyr
can he run a team as the head honcho? mixed results to me
tbh when you have jimmy g as your qb
i don't know how you can come back
hasty mesa
Jimmy G in Raiders should be enough evidence of how good Shanahan is
celest zephyr
i like purdy but he doesn't have the arm or legs to make big plays down in the clutch
torn gale
Fire Ron let Eric run the team to see if he can do it. Though for the sake of my team they should keep Ron
celest zephyr
or that nick mullens actually counted as an nfl qb
dim kettle
But I swear I heard Niners fans saying for a long time how Jimmy G was good enough to win games
hasty mesa
He was tho
celest zephyr
he's good enough to win when he isn't down
hasty mesa
He won games
weak gull
But I swear I heard Niners fans saying for a long time how Jimmy G was good enou...
You did
celest zephyr
he's not when he has to make a big play
hasty mesa
Under the right system ofc
celest zephyr
if its just converting third downs sure. to get a score down 7? nah
rustic ore
Fire Ron let Eric run the team to see if he can do it. Though for the sake of my...
Bieniemy is the one calling their O, under him Howell has thrown 12 picks which ties him Allen for most in the league, he’s also the most sacked QB
celest zephyr
that's a system manager for you
hasty mesa
if its just converting third downs sure. to get a score down 7? nah
Are you saying Purdy is NFC West Kirk Cousins lol
dim kettle
Let’s face it. He was being overrated till Purdy took over.
celest zephyr
i agree
weak gull
Bieniemy is the one calling their O, under him Howell has thrown 12 picks which ...
Don’t think bienemy is the issue in Washington. It’s more than that. They got a lot to fix
celest zephyr
i mean if he is that wouldn't be the worst
for a guy who was the third stringer last year yeah i'll take it
at least he can do it for dirt cheap
rustic ore
Don’t think bienemy is the issue in Washington. It’s more than that. They got a ...
More so responding to the idea that it would magically be better if they canned Ron now and had EB take over
hasty mesa
Don’t think bienemy is the issue in Washington. It’s more than that. They got a ...
Well 1 they're selling
rustic ore
It’s an entirely shit roster
hasty mesa
Yeah
weak gull
More so responding to the idea that it would magically be better if they canned ...
Fair. Yeah ain’t nothin changing. Can Ron or not
dim kettle
Ron is also has a lot of power in drafting; mind you
So yeah, he going really does matter.
weak gull
So yeah, he going really does matter.
Think we’re talking mid season, as he said EB take over
Canning him mid season, does nothing most likely
weak gull
Can him to end it imo. You already started selling. Finish out the year
dim kettle
I mean, you could try. But at the end of the day, this goes back to what I said before the season. You’re putting so much faith in Howell; yet you chose to draft defensively with your top picks instead of helping your young QB.
hasty mesa
For context Washington drafted Emmanuel Forbes over Banks
rustic ore
Yeah Forbes looking like a huge miss for DC vs Banks who is flashing for the Giants
hasty mesa
Yeah Forbes looking like a huge miss for DC vs Banks who is flashing for the Gia...
Banks has been covering the league's best and so far? Very solid
He's already CB1
dim kettle
Commies needed OL and TE help and Ron and company said, “Fuck. That. Shit.”
hasty mesa
Commies needed OL and TE help and Ron and company said, “Fuck. That. Shit.”
Dalton Kincaid/Laporta to Washington?
Was that a thing
weak gull
Banks has been covering the league's best and so far? Very solid
Garrett was cooking him tho 😭
celest zephyr
Commies needed OL and TE help and Ron and company said, “Fuck. That. Shit.”
the panthers way
weak gull
Tape ain’t lie, man was getting routed. Banks solid but he def struggled vs some 1s this year
rustic ore
Garrett was cooking him tho 😭
Tbf Garrett has elite talent but because he doesn’t have a QB he can’t show it
celest zephyr
still can't believe they had an entire draft of defensive players
dim kettle
2020 draft is gonna be legendary for that reason
weak gull
Tbf Garrett has elite talent but because he doesn’t have a QB he can’t show it
I know, I’m just saying he’s definitely struggled when put on some 1s this year
dim kettle
How to run your team into the ground 101
rustic ore
I know, I’m just saying he’s definitely struggled when put on some 1s this year
Yup, CB is a very hard position to come out of the gate from and perform well
weak gull
2nd hardest position to play imo
celest zephyr
rustic ore
Sauce is an exception to that rule obviously it he also is extremely physical and could be called for DPI-holding way more than he is rn
rustic ore
Brown and Chinn the only ones worth a damn on this list
dim kettle
Panthers spent so much draft capital on defense just to be mid
This is why Matt Fool was a mistake
hasty mesa
Garrett was cooking him tho 😭
For sure
I'm fine with a rookie struggling with Garrett Wilson when he does this
weak gull
https://vxtwitter.com/NFLRookieWatxh/status/1713990807215018282?s=20
I actually never trust these stats. Cause they never do the tracking correctly unfortunately. Hill had 181 on the giants
If Deonte was locking him down, why’d they take him off?
hasty mesa
I actually never trust these stats. Cause they never do the tracking correctly u...
Moved him around
He was on Waddle more?
weak gull
That doesn’t make sense to do tho when half of miamis offense was hill
rustic ore
So he’s more of a boundary CB like Sherman instead of a true lockdown CB like a Revis?
hasty mesa
My only point is Banks has been solid as a rookie even against some of the league's best
I think at this point Wink has him lined up every snap against WR1
Over Adoree
weak gull
Banks is a solid corner, but those stats are always misleading is my thing
rustic ore
Good sign
hasty mesa
In a perfect defensive scheme there are only 4 lineman because Dex is being doubled
So it makes life easier
Kayvon needs an opposite EDGE
rustic ore
Also in retrospect I love how people over thought Watt in the 1st so he slid all the way down to the end of it
hasty mesa
Imagine what Wink could do
rustic ore
So effectively the Steelers got a steal
calm mulch
Jordan Poole with Kyle Kuzma are hilarious
funniest and most entertaining team in the NBA
smoky fable
Yup, CB is a very hard position to come out of the gate from and perform well
I agree with that. I also believe that it's not really worth drafting an inside linebacker in the 1st at this point due to the difficulty of playing the position.
have more success finding a corner in the first than an inside linebacker
weak gull
If you get a game changing inside backer it changes a defense tho imo
dim ledge
Any pro bowl predictions?
weak gull
More than any other position besides edge. Fred and Roquan are backbones rn
celest zephyr
vinny
weak gull
What
celest zephyr
jr
robust grotto
Any pro bowl predictions?
Dexter Lawrence
celest zephyr
Justin tucker
dim ledge
Dexter Lawrence
Is this Trevor Lawrences nerdy brother
robust grotto
Is this Trevor Lawrences nerdy brother
Nooo he’s the guy that’s going to block Nick Bosa from a pro bowl
dim ledge
Well Bosa hasn't been pro bowl quality this year so
Not a challenge atm
Warner, though...
robust grotto
That’s why I speak facts
dim ledge
3 of these 4 will be your NFC QBs
Jalen Hurts
Brock Purdy
Jared Goff
Dak Prescott
celest zephyr
Ronaldo
dim ledge
MAYBE Howell
celest zephyr
Hi
dim ledge
And stop saying irrelevant shit
celest zephyr
What
dim ledge
Thanks
dim ledge
Again, be obtuse if you want
dim ledge
It's still your warning. What you choose to do beyond that is all you
celest zephyr
If you get a game changing inside backer it changes a defense tho imo
And plus they don’t have durability issues or massive overpaying
RBs just aren’t durable enough oftentimes to be worth it
Wrs get comical amount of money
dim ledge
Difference a good one makes is staggering though
celest zephyr
Oh wrs yeah they are worth it in the first
hasty mesa
The narrative on RBs may have moved slightly back in RBs favor after this season
dim ledge
I always thought they deserved to be paid tbh
hasty mesa
JT got paid and more people see a difference between say, a Barkley vs Matt Breida
celest zephyr
Being paid sure not being first round idk hasn’t changed for me
dim ledge
CMC aside think about how good Miami's pair has been, Swift, even Pacheco etc etc
celest zephyr
Also yeah never thought they shouldn’t be paid
dim ledge
Yeah nah definitely
hasty mesa
I hope Saquon gets at least a decent deal
dim ledge
Just like in the "in favour" conversation
hasty mesa
He prob ain’t getting his CMC money tho
dim ledge
Idk if anyone deserves CMC money that isn't CMC tbh
hasty mesa
And tbh? I think he can be a version of CMC, but the Oline doesn’t do him favors
Saquon even as is, top 5 RB in the league
dim ledge
This isn’t a good troll seeing as I am the 2nd of my father lol
It's a footballer
Don't pay it any mind
dim ledge
Saquon is trying to be a CMC
I mean arguably CMC is the ideal RB frame that I think most RBs want to emulate
And word vin was just ensuring
weak gull
All good, np
hasty mesa
I mean arguably CMC is the ideal RB frame that I think most RBs want to emulate
CMC is the perfect modern RB yeah
rustic mountain
Cause I technically am a JR.
Vincent Jr?
weak gull
Vincent Jr?
I’m a II, my mom hates junior
rustic mountain
Who tf wouldnt
Junior feels inherently condescending
"hey how ya doing junior"
short flame
Junior feels inherently condescending
I’m a 3 
rustic mountain
Yeah?
dim ledge
I'm a 2
sweet tree
I'm a 2
dim ledge
I get junior every so often
But it's a heavy greek accented junior
So it's "Tzunyor"
short flame
I’ve never been called junior luckily
rustic mountain
As a 3rd I don't see how ya would
rustic mountain
Greek
short flame
I was called Hernan chiquito by a few people when I was young but luckily it didn’t stick. Chiquito is little so it’s like they called me little Hernan 