Heinz field isnt scary
#sports
rustic mountain
rustic mountain
And never in the playoffs
smoky fable
And which one were home games I wonder
dim kettle
I know 08 was a NE home game.
rustic mountain
18 and 04 were home games for sure
I remember 04 vividly because they were wanting to crown Pittsburgh as the champs
dim kettle
Wasn't that NE's first loss since the beginning of 03?
rustic mountain
And everyone talked about how good they were all year long then we beat the shit out of them in the title game
rustic mountain
It was the first loss in like 22 games
smoky fable
I don’t know about this
rustic mountain
They ended our record
dim kettle
And then NE derped against the Dolphins on primetime.
rustic mountain
We only beat the dolphins at their place a few times man
dim kettle
No wonder Brady didn't want to go there. He'd be losing home games left and right. lol
rustic mountain
It was crazy to me at first when I heard Brady was going to Tampa because dude has historically sucked ass in Florida
Miami and Denver. Hated those games
Because you could nearly lock in a loss
dim kettle
The dude is undefeated against Tampa.
smoky fable
I remember Brady having a winning record against every team except one.
rustic mountain
Yeh but did you see some of those games?
smoky fable
Now he does have a winning record against every team
rustic mountain
Remember the game our kickers both kept fucking up field goals
dim kettle
IDK he seemed to have his way against the Bucs in 09.
rustic mountain
When we wearing all white
God that game was ugly as shit
And whoever said New England in all white unis deserves a kick in the nuts
dim kettle
Between that in the all red shit color rush unis the Bucs had, yeah.
smoky fable
Color rush was a bad idea
Most of them were bad
The yellow mustard Rams jerseys sucked
rustic mountain
That game and the Carolina Panthers game where Luke Keuchly had his way with Gronk at the end and they didnt call a pass interference are my two least favorite games we played against the nfc south
dim kettle
It wasn't a bad idea in concept, some of these teams needed alts. But they really loved the all color, all white look which sorry, only works with basketball and hockey unis.
smoky fable
Somewhere around that time
rustic mountain
I was pissed. It was bullshit. They just wanted stupid Cam Newton to win
Tbf he did everything in his power to win that game. Bill cant stop a running qb to save his life
smoky fable
Yeah it was that season
dim kettle
You had teams like the Cards wearing all black with the white helmet that just ruined the whole look. If you were gonna do color rush you should've let teams wear different helmets.
smoky fable
That game and the Carolina Panthers game where Luke Keuchly had his way with Gro...
This
smoky fable
You had teams like the Cards wearing all black with the white helmet that just r...
The cards uniforms in general suck
rustic mountain
Yeahh. The bad no pi call, brady and mallet yelling at the ref, cam newton just running all over us, and Aqib Talib fighting with Steve Smith
rustic ore
Confused
Yeesh, move a guy who has been a career RT to LT this late in the game huh? Risky
Also holy crap this FA period is already insane
dim kettle
Yep, Steve Smith still lives in my head rent free.
smoky fable
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Yeesh, move a guy who has been a career RT to LT this late in the game huh? Risk...
I guess chiefs draft a RT now
rustic mountain
Steve Smith was an asshole and I am glad we won a super bowl at his expense
smoky fable
Steve Smith was an asshole and I am glad we won a super bowl at his expense
comeback against the ravens ended any chance
rustic ore
SF gave **that much ** for Hargrave when they still have to sign Bosa to a mega deal??? 
dim kettle
Every time he talks about the Bucs he sounds like mumbles and nonsense to me.
smoky fable
SF gave **that much ** for Hargrave when they still have to sign Bosa to a mega ...
It means they missed on Kinlaw
They don't trust him
rustic ore
Ty Johnny Lynch for biting the bullet on that for us and helping us get Tristan Wirfs
Love that man
dawn tapir
thoughts on the raiders getting jimmy g?
dim kettle
Not much of an upgrade that some people saying he is,
rustic mountain
I don't think he is an upgrade at all
dim kettle
The NFL media just won't shut up about him.
rustic mountain
I think his injury prone nonsense puts the raiders in a worse spot
dawn tapir
plus you can't depend on him to stay healthy. do you think they draft a qb behind jimmy g?
rustic mountain
And he doesn't have the ability to WIN a game. Just manage it
smoky fable
plus you can't depend on him to stay healthy. do you think they draft a qb behin...
They should
dim kettle
I think the Raiders will get Levis.
smoky fable
That's not that good either
I don't know if I trust McDaniels to get the most out of him.
dim kettle
They have to get a long term option. So you might as well try with Levis.
rustic mountain
McDaniels could but it's a could
He isn't a bad offensive mind he just is a bad HC
dim kettle
Just a reminder though the last QB McDaniels drafted was Tim Tebow
rustic mountain
He needs to be an oc essentially
smoky fable
They have to get a long term option. So you might as well try with Levis.
They'll have to trade up though
rustic mountain
He is a lot like Patricia tbh
dawn tapir
so if rodgers to the jets isn't worked out then the jets would be stuck with zach wilson right? 
dim kettle
I think they can get him where they're at actually.
rustic mountain
Except not being despised everywhere
smoky fable
I think they can get him where they're at actually.
It's because of Detroit
I know Seattle is probably out
smoky fable
Who knows if Detroit get's him
They need a qb too.
dim kettle
They might trust Goff for now.
smoky fable
And Titans can trade up if they so choose
rustic mountain
I agree with Siren
robust grotto
rustic mountain
Why gamble on a qb in an arguably weak qb draft class
rustic ore
Mike White is a huge upgrade at back up QB to Teddy
rustic mountain
When Goff is fine for now and you get loaded at talent elsewhere
rustic ore
Smart move by Miami
dim kettle
Goff just had his best season in years.
rustic mountain
Tua shouldn't be playing as is
smoky fable
Why gamble on a qb in an arguably weak qb draft class
It's because you have to take a shot. Otherwise you end up in the Colts position.
Can't just wait on a generational prospect
And this qb class isn't that weak
smoky fable
oh
smoky fable
No I meant that as saying he’ll replace Teddy as Tua’s backup
Backup qb to Teddy threw me off there
dim kettle
If the Lions need a QB they could move up. That's the difference between the Colts and Lions. The Colts in 2020 and 2021 could've moved up and instead went for the mystery box.
dim kettle
Enjoy the J-Pop, Bauer
smoky fable
If the Lions need a QB they could move up. That's the difference between the Col...
I think it's worse than the mystery box. They went for veteran qbs that imploded in their face.
Because these were seemingly proven guys.
dim kettle
Wentz was the mystery box at the time.
smoky fable
But one was broken in Wentz while the other washed in Ryan
smoky fable
Wentz was the mystery box at the time.
He had one seemingly fluke season
dim kettle
Either Wentz was gonna go back to 2017 form or be his 2020 self and they got his 2020 self.
dawn tapir
If the Lions need a QB they could move up. That's the difference between the Col...
the lions need defensive pieces more right? as they were one of the worst defenses last year
smoky fable
That's why I have them selecting Jalen Carter from Georgia.
Nah stop saying that. (I want him to fall for reasons)
smoky fable
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1635301120804544518?t=wF5DZOYgnVkya3KwfLrjAQ...
vx?
You missing it?
rustic ore
It ain’t a vid though? 
rustic mountain
The Patriots highlights???? Lmao about the same as the Albert Haynesworth in a Washington uni highlights
rustic mountain
Idk we just didnt know how to use him or he just blew balls
smoky fable
Oh what? It was a video? Didn’t see that
I find it funny since you advocate the most. I was like damn he missed it.
rustic mountain
Either way bye bye Jonnu
rustic ore
smoky fable
Either way bye bye Jonnu
Second worst signing behind Kenny G
rustic mountain
Jonnu was such a bad signing. I am glad they tried but fuck he just was so bad
I don't think he ever grasped the offense
dim kettle
I think no one did. 
rustic mountain
I mean before Patricia
We signed him when we had McDaniels
Hunter Henry actually thrived the first year for us
And Jonnu never did
Which is why we kept Hunter and moved on from Jonnu
Wonder if we go in on any tight ends then
smoky fable
Wonder if we go in on any tight ends then
This is a good tight end class
smoky fable
Dalton Kincaid from Utah might be what you're looking for
rustic mountain
I like that
dim kettle
He can "help win you games." Hell, I'd say Carr is better than Jimmy G in some aspects. I trust Carr more to win a game late than Jimmy G, period.
rustic mountain
Jonathan Jones stays in NE
rustic mountain
https://fxtwitter.com/TheHerd/status/1635344825125048320?s=20
The second most important rule: never take Colin Coward seriously
dawn tapir
He can "help win you games." Hell, I'd say Carr is better than Jimmy G in some a...
doesn't jimmy g have a better W-L record than carr?
rustic mountain
Only behind the most important rule of fuck Skip Bayless
dim kettle
He's been on better teams and better schemes than Carr
rustic ore
doesn't jimmy g have a better W-L record than carr?
Probably but he’s also always had better defenses than Carr
rustic mountain
Dalton Kincaid from Utah might be what you're looking for
Utah Utes boiz are biiig af Id be happy to take him
dim kettle
If you think Jimmy G is the main reason the Niners won games 98% of the time, you're crazy. Must be difficult to throw all those screen passes to Deebo.
rustic mountain
Anyone who bullies USC players all game long is good in my book
dim kettle
Probably but he’s also always had better defenses than Carr
He's had better coaches, players, schemes period.
rustic ore
That too
smoky fable
If you think Jimmy G is the main reason the Niners won games 98% of the time, yo...
or hand the ball off
dim kettle
Man, people were saying Tom Brady was a system QB for so long. Boy, let's talk about Jimmy G.
dim kettle
Can't wait for Rodgers to be in a Vikings uni in a few years
robust grotto
Oh boy
rustic ore
https://twitter.com/wingoz/status/1635353210310504448
I can’t tell what would be funnier, if this deal fell through and Rodgers asked to come back to GB or it goes through and the Jets still stink next season because LOLJETS
smoky fable
I can’t tell what would be funnier, if this deal fell through and Rodgers asked ...
Taking the Farve route
dim kettle
God, my family is gonna be insufferable for the next year
rustic ore
Taking the Farve route
Can’t wait for his welfare fraud character arc
dim kettle
"Look, we're gonna be like your Bucs with Brady." I bet my older cousins will tell me.
Jets about to go 8-3 only to end with a teabagging at the hands of the Pats at the end of the season as they go 8-9.
dawn tapir
jimmy g is 38-17 with the 49ers. carr is 63−79 with the raiders. they are both 31 years old carr turns 32 march 28th
dim kettle
They were both in the same draft.
smoky fable
smoky fable
https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1635354752677543937
hockensen still needs to be paid
rustic ore
https://twitter.com/GarrettWilson_V/status/1635354855769505792
Wilson about to go off
smoky fable
he is
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𝗕𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗞𝗜𝗡𝗚: The #Jets are going to acquire #Packers MVP QB Aaron Rodgers
Rodgers leaves Green Bay after an amazing 18 years and is now heading to New York, following in Brett Favre’s footsteps
Green Bay now moves onto Jordan Love.
dim kettle
I always love when Niner fans on Twitter always brought up his total wins as a starter like it actually means a lot. You know, Brad Johnson won a lot games as a starter for the Bucs. But how much do you really consider him a factor in those wins. I bet Sapp, Brooks, and Barber would like to have a word with you.
dim kettle
He pretty much said this earlier on NFL Network
versed forge
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1635356101091926018
Lmao wow
dim kettle
I like to see him decline this and the deal breaker was that he couldn't pump his own gas in NJ.
dawn tapir
What would the jets even do if rodgers declines them? stick with Wilson or trade up in the draft for a QB?
rustic mountain
I like to see him decline this and the deal breaker was that he couldn't pump hi...
Hell yeah stick it to states that dont let you pump your own gas
dawn tapir
or gardner minshew who i think is better than baker
dim kettle
Jacoby Brissett is there too.
dim kettle
It would be a mess though. Because the Jets hired Nathaniel Hackett as OC just to get Rodgers' attention. Knowing full well the dude got fired as a OC not long ago and just got fired not even one year into being a HC.
celest zephyr
Jimmy g going to make everyone bet for the raiders
Going to make them lots of money
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dim kettle
But the biggest question is. WHO'S GETTING FAMOUS JAMEIS?! CMON, THE TURNOVER BAKERY NEEDS TO MAKE A COMEBACK!
celest zephyr
Aaron Rodgers actually doing absolutely nothing
dawn tapir
But the biggest question is. **WHO'S GETTING FAMOUS JAMEIS?! CMON, THE TURNOVER ...
i hear the falcons need a QB
dim kettle
That would fill joy to all Bucs fans pre Brady era
Hell, the highlight for the Bucs last year for me was Jameis throwing a pick 6 against the Bucs.
rustic mountain
I kinda get that
I wanted nothing more than to beat Brady when he came back to New England
Shame
dim kettle
Nick Folk returned the favor for missing all those FGs against the Pats in 2017.
smoky fable
You might get Meyers back
rustic mountain
I fucking hope not
I know TONS of fans want him back
But to me he is a mid wide out who is apparently is prone to dumb shit
dim kettle
I fucking hope not
Cmon, we need to see Meyers Lateral part 2.
rustic mountain
And a symbol of how poor our wide out corps is
Let him do that on your team
Not mine
I never really thought he was a good wide out to begin with
dim kettle
“This might be one of the dumbest teams I’ve ever seen”
smoky fable
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rustic mountain
K cool cut him
smoky fable
Twitter
smoky fable
good it's done
dim kettle
Twitter
celest zephyr
The lord
Ah well lets see if it rubbed off of on lancd and purdy
On paper that’s a nice QB tandem
Except the fact that if you have two qbs that can start and are in a similar positon in their careers then you really have none
hasty mesa
Nice to see Jason Kelce is back
rustic ore
They should’ve included him missing Sanders deep in the SB
proud coyote
@dim ledge Hargrave is a HUGE fucking signing
rustic ore
Don't think they make that unless they're now realizing that Kinlaw was a miss
Also Juba!!! Happy to have you back in the server
Hope all has been well for you irl
proud coyote
We’ve known Kinlaw was a miss, even regardless of his play concerns the guy just cannot stay healthy
And yep all good, just a bit less busy suddenly so I figured
smoky fable
We’ve known Kinlaw was a miss, even regardless of his play concerns the guy just...
What do they do for RT now?
That’s a point I’m curious on. Do you have a name you want
proud coyote
Draft + Colton Mckivitz + Jaylon Moore
smoky fable
Ah
smoky fable
Draft seems to be the best way then
proud coyote
Yeah certainly picking one for one of our third rounders
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Tremaine Edmunds to the bears
smoky fable
Twitter
rustic ore
Interesting
Bills fans I know have been begging the team to get rid of him so I guess they get their wish
smoky fable
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smoky fable
Bills fans I know have been begging the team to get rid of him so I guess they g...
Milano was better
rustic ore
Way better
smoky fable
Bills fans I know have been begging the team to get rid of him so I guess they g...
I think Roquan Smith was the better player though
rustic ore
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smoky fable
rustic ore
I think Roquan Smith was the better player though
I'd agree with that, Edmunds is a nasty athlete for his size but I've never seen him develop to reach what we'd assume his ceiling is/should be
smoky fable
I'd agree with that, Edmunds is a nasty athlete for his size but I've never seen...
This is why if I’m a team, I’m never drafting an inside linebacker or offball linebackers high again.
They never work
People are too busy chasing shadows of elite linebacker talents that never pan out
rustic ore
With the rare exception of a Luke Kuechly but yes, I would agree
smoky fable
Hell Warner might be the last guy to pan out, and he was a third round pick
smoky fable
With the rare exception of a Luke Kuechly but yes, I would agree
It’s so rare that I don’t even think they should bother
rustic ore
Agreed
smoky fable
With the rare exception of a Luke Kuechly but yes, I would agree
Hell Lavonte David was in that same draft as a second rounder
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rustic ore
Man, could've potentially had both Luke Kuechly and LVD in the same LB core 
smoky fable
Man, could've potentially had both Luke Kuechly and LVD in the same LB core <:Cr...
Mark barron
Oh my lord
I don’t think they would have double dipped on linebackers anyways
rustic ore
"His ceiling is a Pro Bowl safety and his floor is a Pro Bowl safety" Fuck you Mike Mayock
smoky fable
"His ceiling is a Pro Bowl safety and his floor is a Pro Bowl safety" Fuck you M...
Damn no wonder he failed out as the GM
Mayock isn’t that bad though as a draft coverage analyst
rustic mountain
https://twitter.com/TylerDBrooke/status/1635365071663824896
The way Rodgers played last year, who knows what things brings. Id laugh if we still swept the Jets thi
Tho*
hasty mesa
Guess the G-Men aren’t getting Edmunds
celest zephyr
https://mobile.twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1635369822732300290
Bears about to offer the brinks trunk to anyone who wants money
We’ll see how it works
celest zephyr
https://twitter.com/TylerDBrooke/status/1635365071663824896
Yep expected
Hé was probably going to retire otherwise
celest zephyr
You already won the free agency lottery, eman
Already feels like a Kirk and Carr esque contract
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versed forge
Jesse bates is a falcon
celest zephyr
Niort surprised
They got cash
Dojn’t hate the arms race that’s beginning to happen in the nfc
Sure some teams are dumping but some teams are going in
It’s going to be more competitive next season and as a fan of a team on the sharp end I’m looking forward to it
celest zephyr
Yeah I’m good withpassing
smoky fable
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rustic ore
https://mobile.twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1635378705496256512
Sheesh, can't fully say he didn't deserve to get paid but that's a lot for a safety
celest zephyr
Falcons can afford it since they are rich
smoky fable
Sheesh, can't fully say he didn't deserve to get paid but that's a lot for a saf...
Yeah. But their secondary was good
short flame
Is he made of glass 
celest zephyr
Happens
Free kicks don’t look like they are easy
Must take a ton of energy to do it
Bengals lost both safeties 
short flame
It happens a lot with him
rustic ore
Also Vonn Bell to the Panthers, so Cincy needs new Safeties
celest zephyr
Not surprised
short flame
He was out for a year before this
celest zephyr
Hard to generate the power with the accuracy he can do without damage to the body’
Hé ain’t superhuman
smoky fable
Also Vonn Bell to the Panthers, so Cincy needs new Safeties
I thought they drafted a safety
Dax hill?
short flame
Hé ain’t superhuman
Of course but injuring yourself so often you question whether he should still be playing
rustic ore
I'm pretty sure he can play both CB and S but when he did play it was mainly at CB
So if he doesn't get one of those starting jobs that's a big yikes for him
rustic ore
But he's a CB
smoky fable
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celest zephyr
Of course but injuring yourself so often you question whether he should still be...
Yeah for sure
It’s certainly not good
celest zephyr
They need safeties
It’s the right thing for good teams to do
Can’t pay guys so much
Have to replace guys who aren’t crucial to your success
And unless you have a star safety they aren’t the least replaceable spot
rustic ore
CGJ is a target
Isn't he still on the last year of his rookie deal in Philly?
smoky fable
Isn't he still on the last year of his rookie deal in Philly?
No he’s a free agent. CJ Gardener Johnson??
Are you thinking of a different player
rustic ore
My b I'm stupid, who were you referring to with CGJ?
smoky fable
My b I'm stupid, who were you referring to with CGJ?
It’s the guy that I named above
smoky fable
The man who punched Wims
smoky fable
Hargrave good?
He’s good
He’s 30 though, so he might be on the decline in the middle of his deal
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rustic ore
Hargrave good?
Coming off of a career year, I'll get you his PFF ratings in a bit as soon as my buddy hits me up
smoky fable
Coming off of a career year, I'll get you his PFF ratings in a bit as soon as my...
Good ole PFF connection
Twitter
rustic ore
Actually have an online friend who started working for them a year or 2 ago
smoky fable
Actually have an online friend who started working for them a year or 2 ago
Have to ask about some questionable grades at times though
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short flame
It’s certainly not good
I think we’re at a point where he has given everything he had
rustic ore
The man who punched Wims
Wims punched him iirc
rustic ore
Also wow, he actually is an FA, can't believe Philly didn't tag him after the year he had
Yeah he's gonna get bank, dude is nice
smoky fable
Also wow, he actually is an FA, can't believe Philly didn't tag him after the ye...
It’s been kind of a quiet free agency period
Not as hectic
rustic ore
Old PP is an interesting get for the Steelers though
Seems still serviceable and they obviously had a need since they let Sutton walk
celest zephyr
He’s 30 though, so he might be on the decline in the middle of his deal
Yeah a win now move for sure
I like it
Got to go all in when there’s still a window
dim ledge
Is Rodgers happening
celest zephyr
Old PP is an interesting get for the Steelers though
Makes sense they need it to stay competitive in the afc and especially their own division
Deshaun is only going to be better now that he gets a full offseason with his team
smoky fable
Is Rodgers happening
Nothing official yet
celest zephyr
And can play from day 1
rustic ore
Is Rodgers happening
Seemingly we're like 90% there, all on him to put down the ayahuasca long enough to give the okay to his agent
celest zephyr
Hâte the dude but can’t deny that he is still talented
smoky fable
Old PP is an interesting get for the Steelers though
He excelled in zone, but Steelers mainly played man. Not sure about this
He doesn’t tackle either
celest zephyr
Maybe they play more zone idk
Their defense hasn’t been great so they could be trying to mix it up
smoky fable
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celest zephyr
Though their real hope is ofc Lamar leaving thrediviosn
Almost like wrs were in a bubble
rustic ore
I think he could be alright, he's obviously a shell of what he was in his prime in Ari but he's still alright, plus with how often the Steelers have a great pass rush he could have a good year if he stays healthy
celest zephyr
Not a bad pickup then
Don’t see the Steelers moving up this season
Clearly a season for internal growth
rustic ore
Yeah Steelers will still be mid
celest zephyr
Now that Pickett is a full time starter
rustic ore
They need to completely rebuild their O-line
celest zephyr
They better
A young qb isn just going to get mauled under there
Could see them going o line heavy in the draft
Also could use another te behind friermuth
rustic ore
I'm honestly shocked that with all of the hits Kenny took last year he wasn't hurt worse than what he was
celest zephyr
Dude got battered
smoky fable
celest zephyr
Gutsy player
smoky fable
Niners losing a linebacker
smoky fable
That’s good
rustic ore
Thought for sure Bowles burned the bridge with him
Happy to have him back
Really decent CB
celest zephyr
Nice move
smoky fable
rustic ore
Adams should really just request a trade
smoky fable
Thought for sure Bowles burned the bridge with him
I still think Bowles isn’t going to last
rustic ore
I still think Bowles isn’t going to last
Oh I know he isn't
He's completely a lame duck to me at this point
Sooner we tank away the season the quicker we can can him and get someone who actually can lead players from the coaching position again
rustic ore
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Was gonna say at least you can look forward to the comp pick from him signing elsewhere but then again after that big contract y'all signed Hargrave to I'm not sure
rustic ore
Hargrave good?
Back to back seasons of elite production
smoky fable
rustic ore
Goodness
Obviously the concern is the age cause like in most things in life it's down hill at 30 but you're still likely gonna get 2-3 years of good production from him and then you can move him
rustic ore
Why??
New back up since Jimmy is gone, you go from handsome man to Lego movie police man 
dim ledge
Give me back Zaddy :(
dim kettle
I thought Darnold actually did pretty decently for what he was given last season
rustic ore
Twitter
Sweet Jesus thank you for a dead ass market
Fucking 13 for a solid CB in his prime? Please and thank you
rustic ore
Twitter
rustic mountain
https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1635388366547197952
HELL YEAH FUTURE SF STARTER SAM DARNOLD
Also figured the wide out market would be hotter but teams aren't gonna pay out the nose for mid ass talent mostly
smoky fable
Which means you can enjoy Meyers coming back to NE for cheap then <:OrochiScheme...
I think that actually might happen now
This wide receiver market is dead
If teams want Deandre Hopkins, it’s a second round pick
robust grotto
Hey hell of a job on Sam’s end
smoky fable
I don’t care if he’s 31. He’ll also adjust his contract if need be
robust grotto
Those guys call and you say hell yeah
rustic mountain
I really don't want Meyers back man
Idk why everyone is so high on him, he is the most mid of all wide outs
The only way I'd be okay with it is if Bill brings in some better talent to start above him
dim kettle
I really don't want Meyers back man
You’ll get the lateral part 2 and like it
robust grotto
The chances of Sam playing next year are kinda high w niners injury history. Sam could, in a crazy turn of events, use this as a springboard for himself. Good weapons there
rustic mountain
You’ll get the lateral part 2 and like it
Dont wish this on me man
I already got a qb that looks like Ai Ai from super monkey ball
rustic ore
2 of them technically speaking since Mac and Zappe look similar
rustic mountain
At least Zappe doesn't throw tantrums on the field
robust grotto
Giants on do not disturb huh
dim kettle
At least Zappe doesn't throw tantrums on the field
-yet
rustic mountain
Bruh
rustic mountain
Enjoy your post Bradydom like us
rustic mountain
Tbh I am not expecting new england to bring in much for free agents
rustic mountain
With the wideout market being cold, we will unfortunately get Meyers back
Yeah 2 I think
And the only one that truly paid off was Judon
robust grotto
https://tenor.com/view/daniel-jones-gif-18672923
rustic mountain
Which tbf good signing
But Henry has only been good one season and Jonnu Smith should owe us money
celest zephyr
https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1635388366547197952
3 qb systembababay
Idon’t get it but who knows
Beats who else they could have gotten for a third string qb
Kinda like it for competition
Anyone can win and whoever does is better for it
rustic ore
That's a nice pick up for DC
Dantzler is alright, don't know why Minny let him walk
Chase Winovich to the Texans
robust grotto
rustic ore
Giants on do not disturb huh
If it makes you feel any better y'all took one of my guys' back up DTs
And you re-signed Wyatt Davis
rustic mountain
The fucking lightning really
rustic mountain
What's the likelihood the Leafs play the Lightning round one
Is this almost set in stone or
robust grotto
Practically 99% tbh
rustic mountain
Fuck
robust grotto
Boston is absolutely winning the division
rustic mountain
Well if you're gonna advance to round 2, might as well fucking earn it
robust grotto
TB has an 11 point gap on Florida for 3rd in the division
Yeah that’s gonna be the way to look at it for TOR
robust grotto
It’s so annoying but yeah that’s it
rustic mountain
But yeh. If the Leafs get put out, Jays anyway so
robust grotto
Seattle and Vegas both being in it would be cool
Already more stable than some established teams..
rustic mountain
If the leafs get put out, I'll cheer for the Kraken
robust grotto
Yeah I’ll def have my eye on them too
dim kettle
I really wish it didn't have to be Tampa but fuck
You wanna be the best, you gotta beat the best, I suppose
versed forge
Twitter
dim kettle
rustic mountain
You wanna be the best, you gotta beat the best, I suppose
At the very least, if we get ousted, it won't feel cheap like losing a team that sucks
rustic ore
Nah if it makes you feel any better if we do see TBL vs TOR again I'm liking the Leafs chances this time, Tampa's defense has just repeatedly shat the bed in recent weeks
Also I could be wrong but mayhaps Vasy has regressed a pinch as well
dim kettle
Bolts always do this shit around this time though
rustic mountain
I would be a lot more worried if this was a few years ago but still worried
We shall see what happens
dim kettle
Also I could be wrong but mayhaps Vasy has regressed a pinch as well
No. It’s because he can’t extinguish all the dumpster fires the Bolts defense allow
dim kettle
To lose to the Rays.
rustic mountain
Shhhhhh
robust grotto
Rays / Jays - Bolts / Leafs both being division rivals is kinda funny
Look at you guys hating each other
dim kettle
And Tampa as of late owns Toronto sports. 😎
celest zephyr
These matchups are amazing wooooooooo
hasty mesa
G-men got Nacho
celest zephyr
So good
hasty mesa
Yum
celest zephyr
And Tampa as of late owns Toronto sports. 😎
Yeah yeah beat Boston for us
I’ll allow it if you can own Boston sports
Man the Orlando magic beating the Celtics would feel really good
hasty mesa
Gonna have to watch some Nacho footage now
celest zephyr
Maybe I’m crazy but i think the oilers are better than the stars
hasty mesa
How good was he for TB
celest zephyr
Like objectively
Like the stars are the 1 seed, but the wild and avs feel more threatening
Jets seem to have gotten something going also
Nhl straight up has the nba beat with series
8 amazing first round matchups
No bad teams in the playoffs
rustic ore
How good was he for TB
He was alright
celest zephyr
If this is what it ends up being this will be an amazing playoffs
hasty mesa
He was alright
Twitter is telling me good run defender, meh vs pass
robust grotto
Jets have been losing for a minute but the goalie has that X factor at times
hasty mesa
I’ll take it
celest zephyr
Man Tampa New York or Tampa Boston
rustic ore
Sounds about right
rustic ore
celest zephyr
And the wild aren’t that disciplined
rustic ore
celest zephyr
Toronto Boston would obviously be insane
dim kettle
A part of me is hoping the Avs can get their act together and make a deep run
dawn tapir
https://twitter.com/jasrifootball/status/1635392150220451840?t=JTIz4jmNgClwGLavX...
man washington is really being aggressive this free agency
celest zephyr
Idk Vegas has looked really good so far
rustic ore
man washington is really being aggressive this free agency
Might as well, team is gonna be sold presumably sometime this year and Rivera seems to be a lameduck coach at this point
celest zephyr
It’s a brutal opponent
Already hard enough before when they were closely matched talent wise
dim kettle
Idk Vegas has looked really good so far
And I’ve heard that for years now
celest zephyr
Imdon’t think they win the west but the west is also super soft
dim kettle
Gonna loss to a Dallas or Montréal again
celest zephyr
Yeah but there were at least other really good teams lol
Thé west is wide open
Just to get spanked by the east
dawn tapir
Might as well, team is gonna be sold presumably sometime this year and Rivera se...
What if eric bienemy does very well and saves ron's job?
celest zephyr
Oh Dallas Vegas wcf would be fire
rustic ore
Same
dim kettle
The only parade they’re gonna have in DC in the future is when Snyder finally sells
rustic ore
And again, credit where credit is due to Bieniemy rolling the dice and betting on himself that he can actually call plays
We shall see
celest zephyr
The only parade they’re gonna have in DC in the future is when Snyder finally se...
Especially since the caps and nationals don’t look great
Neither team going to win a ring any time soon
dawn tapir
We shall see
i can't wait if he can make Sam howell into an MVP type player 
Sam def had the potential to be great as he was at one point in college projected to be a number 1 pick
rustic ore
i can't wait if he can make Sam howell into an MVP type player <:AceJustRight:77...
I wait I forgot, you're a DC fan aren't you?
celest zephyr
Think he’s a chiefs fan
hasty mesa
NFL in chaos meanwhile G-men grabbed one dude
celest zephyr
Or they rather
dawn tapir
I wait I forgot, you're a DC fan aren't you?
yes
rustic ore
<:Crydo:586275183032270849> yes
dim kettle
Bless not just becoming a Ravens fan. lol
dawn tapir
well at least my team are not the browns even with the worst owner cause haslam is the 2nd worse 
dim kettle
rustic ore
Cleveland has their factory of sadness, and we Bucs fans have our Den of Depression 
dim kettle
With two rings
dawn tapir
Cleveland has their factory of sadness, and we Bucs fans have our Den of Depress...
you guys have 2 rings tho lol
hasty mesa
Giants fans have our ACL tear generator
rustic ore
Cleveland has their factory of sadness, and we Bucs fans have our Den of Depress...
Although tbf I don't know if we can justify calling it that anymore since we're the first franchise ever to win an SB when our home stadium was hosting it
And yes of course, 2 rings are always nice 😎
dim kettle
Then again 0-26 is gonna be with us forever
dawn tapir
Washington hasn't had an 11 win season in 30 years 😭
hasty mesa
We just live in 2007 and 2011 until our next Super Bowl
rustic ore
Dan Snyder doesn't deserve anything nice though, so once he's gone y'all can have one again
dawn tapir
then the browns will have the worst owner
dim kettle
Washington hasn't had an 11 win season in 30 years 😭
The culture is actually really damn good
celest zephyr
Youn are tanking anyways
Thé cardinals have no need for talent
Just draft well
And develop your guys
Kyler is going to play too little games to make a real impact
And he ain’t Tom Brady
Or Patrick mahomes
celest zephyr
Washington hasn't had an 11 win season in 30 years 😭
Dang its longer than the cowboys Super Bowl drought
Impressive
hasty mesa
https://twitter.com/jeffphowe/status/1635401508312449024
Solid RB2
celest zephyr
Aaron still wasting his time yawnnn
Dude trying toi get all the media hype
Man is doing this like lebron’s decision
But he ain’t even like bron
And he’s way older
What’s next he’ll host an entire press conference to hold up a sign saying he’s a jet
dim kettle
David about to go the Warren Sapp route, isn’t he?
rustic ore
I mean the Raiders could use his services desperately
dim kettle
It’s just how seeds work. If anything we should get rid of divisions entirely then
dawn tapir
https://twitter.com/profootballtalk/status/1635411917610074121?s=46&t=6zYeacLKll...
lol i don't see this happening at all
hasty mesa
Twitter
wet onyx
GIANTS FANS RISE UP
rustic ore
Shoot I forgot to ping you too Legend, my b
wet onyx
Shoot I forgot to ping you too Legend, my b
u good, nothing can ruin my mood rn
rustic ore
https://twitter.com/profootballtalk/status/1635411917610074121?s=46&t=6zYeacLKll...
Twitter
Imagine fighting to have a rule put in that would almost never happen outside of a shit year like the 2022 season
hasty mesa
Fantastic contract for a starter
Schoen is cooking
rustic ore
Twitter
wet onyx
Schoen is cooking
twas never in doubt 😶🌫️
dim kettle
To the Bills. Hmmm
rustic ore
He'd be a God send for their D, and he and Milano would be a disgusting tandem
rustic ore
dim kettle
dim kettle
celest zephyr
https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1635413849619812352
That’s so specific
celest zephyr
Like i get it if they submitted one where like a division champ is just seeded into the p[layoffs
And not given free home court
But clearly they are just salty they lost to the jags
rustic ore
They're mad they couldn't have the 3rd biggest choke in NFL postseason history in front of all 3 of their fans at home
celest zephyr
They're mad they couldn't have the 3rd biggest choke in NFL postseason history i...
Mad that they couldn’t pass a rule where if they are up by 27 or more points at half time that the other team has to forfeit
rustic ore
Honestly wish the NFL copied the NBA in terms of playoff seedings. Division titles are completely pointless
celest zephyr
Facts
Just have it as a tiebreaker
And not mean so much
Except the nba gives participation awards now
So clearly they somehow care
Also ecf and wcf mvps
Even though the playoff / finals mvp is the only one that actually matters
rustic ore
Lot of fragile egos in BBall
celest zephyr
Just have to see how much they argue with the refs
It’s like half of them have never committed a foul in their lives
smoky fable
dawn tapir
True but the NFC south this year was truly one of the divisions of all time
rustic ore
True but the NFC south this year was truly one of the divisions of all time <:Ac...
As was the 2020 NFCE
dim kettle
Panthers should've won that division. smh
rustic ore
dim kettle
As was the 2020 NFCE
celest zephyr
True but the NFC south this year was truly one of the divisions of all time <:Ac...
2014 nfc south better
dim kettle
Of course that was a great year to go 2-14
you aren't a veteran Bucs fan if you didn't see the Falcons beat the shit out of the Bucs 56-14 on TNF in 2014.
celest zephyr
Of course that was a great year to go 2-14
celest zephyr
And he served a masterpiece of a 30 td and int season
Yeah but i meant it wasn’t since they got jameis and he wasn’t good for them
dim kettle
To be frank I wasn't too big on the QBs in that 2015 draft.
rustic ore
And he served a masterpiece of a 30 td and int season
Technically it was 33 TDs and 30 INTs, but it's funnier to call it 30-30
celest zephyr
Technically it was 33 TDs and 30 INTs, but it's funnier to call it 30-30
Still the only qb to meet or exceed 30 tds and 30 ints a single season
rustic ore
Indeed
dim kettle
You know what sucks about Jameis in 2019 was Leftwich basically gave defenses an easier time to pick Jameis off.
rustic ore
And despite being on the field so much we put out a top 10 defense
dim kettle
He was stlll doing those in out plays that even Brady threw pick 6s
rustic ore
That was all you needed to see to figure out that Bucs squad was a non-turnover prone QB away from making a run
A la 1 GOAT Tom Brady
Twitter
dim kettle
I can easily admit i was a Jameis defender. Because the picks in the middle was the worst for Jameis. But the playbook was not giving Jameis any favors either.
undone lion
i really wanted jameis to be good
dim kettle
Really wasn't until Brady came in when they started getting rid of the in out routes that were easy pick 6s for defenders.
celest zephyr
Also Brady overwriting leftwich when it mattered gthe most
rustic ore
dim kettle
Still think he can be good. It's just the Saints fucked him up even more trying to make him a game manager.
celest zephyr
Yeah he’s a high risk high reward guy
Even in a good system he’s still a guy who’s getting top 5 in ints with a high usage rate
rustic ore
Tbf when he got hurt in 2021 he was on pace for his best season as a pro
dim kettle
Vinny Testaverde who was also a Bucs QB none less was a turnover machine in his own time as well did himself pretty well with the Jets
celest zephyr
Yeah but well they I used him as a game manager
Favre was one also
Same with josh Allen
But they’ve both had success
Just can’t rely on them to play mistake free football like Brady or Rodgers
undone lion
Still think he can be good. It's just the Saints fucked him up even more trying ...
yeah he's still got some time should he get another chance as a starter
dim kettle
When Brady was first being discussed to be heading to Tampa. I was actually against it, because I felt like Jameis could work in that system with time. But, we know how things went for the Bucs after that.
celest zephyr
Honestly impressed that Rodgers only has 105 ints in 18 seasons playing
Despite having 12 last season
rustic ore
Tbf he also had to sit the bench the first 3 years of his career
celest zephyr
Double digits in ints 3 seasons out of 15 as a starter
rustic ore
But yes his career TD:INT ratio is literal video game-esque
celest zephyr
Still 104 in 15 is unreal
dim kettle
I think Rodgers only had like 2 games played before 08
rustic ore
Just insane
celest zephyr
Yeah he’s just a machine at qb
dim kettle
You know, until it mattered most in the playoffs
rustic ore
45:6 in 2011 still shocks me to this day 
celest zephyr
Barely over .500 in the playoff
rustic ore
Truly the Peyton Manning of his generation
dim kettle
I knew right after they had that 15-1 season and laid an egg against a 9-7 Giants team that the Packers weren't gonna win shit in the future.
rustic ore
They seriously lose that 2014 NFC title game when Russ gift wrapped them 4 INTs 
dim kettle
I was laughing near the end of the game. Because I just knew they weren't gonna play 60 minutes.
undone lion
He had 48:5 in 2020
ridiculous
rustic ore
Poor Brandon Bostick , he obviously wasn't the main reason they lost but I'd damn near have Vietnam flashbacks remembering that onside kick he was supposed to block on instead of try and go up and grab it
celest zephyr
dim kettle
I couldn't be the only one who knew the Bucs were gonna beat them in the NFCG a few years ago. It just always feel that way with Rodgers and the Pack.
celest zephyr
Greenbay lost 2 playoff games against this lolll
dim kettle
Brady also threw 3 against them
Just saying Scotty Miller will give a Packer fan PTSD episode.
celest zephyr
rustic mountain
There was like 2 seasons where Kap was like crazy good to solid as hell
dim kettle
Oh the Niners. Rodgers' worst enemy.
rustic mountain
I actually remember watching him play against Boise State when he was at Nevada
celest zephyr
Legit bears football and they still got spanked
rustic ore
Greenbay lost 2 playoff games against this lolll
Tbf one of those games Kaep broke the single game rushing record for QBs with like 200+ on the ground. Read option was legit everywhere for like 2 years
rustic mountain
Aaron Rodgers really deserves the mantle of Regular Season qb tbh
dim kettle
If Jay Cutler doesn't be a bitch in the NFCG in 2010 the Bears are likely in SB 45 instead of the Packers.
undone lion
I've always hated Rodgers and the Packers (for no real reason) so I love seeing them fail in the playoffs
celest zephyr
Tbf one of those games Kaep broke the single game rushing record for QBs with li...
Fair enough
Still amazed that they lost to jimmy g
Considering dude can’t run either
dim kettle
https://youtu.be/p1wdGME8V-E
God, that's always gonna be in my head.
Still can't believe that worked
rustic ore
Aaron Rodgers really deserves the mantle of Regular Season qb tbh
Nah that's still Peyton unless Rodgers can tie him for most league MVP awards before he hangs it up
rustic mountain
I give to Rodgers tbh
rustic ore
Considering dude can’t run either
Elite defense bb
rustic mountain
Rodgers hasn't even been back to a sb since 2010
celest zephyr
Still can't believe that worked
Kevin king became the most hated man in greenbay after that play
rustic mountain
After basically being anoited the greatest qb talent anyone had seen
He was Mahomes before Mahomes
celest zephyr
Mahomes can actually win games though
rustic mountain
Exactly
undone lion
and mahomes has more super bowls 
rustic ore
https://youtu.be/p1wdGME8V-E
When you can make Joe Buck actually show some emotion in a play call you know you had a good one
dim kettle
Rodgers definitely. Of course I can tolerate Rodgers more than Peyton because the media didn't try to make a million excuses as to why Rodgers couldn't deliver.
rustic mountain
So Rodgers is a worse Manning when it comes to being a regular season qb and a worse Mahomes when it comes to being a qb talent
rustic mountain
Rodgers is amazing and awful all in one
rustic mountain
Now let's hope the Jets give up a king's ransom to get him and he ends up sucking
dim kettle
I remember Peyton laid an egg in the playoffs in 2014 and the media said "Oh, that's on the OC." The irony that the media would also call Peyton this amazing general in the huddle.
celest zephyr
At least Eli got his revenges
rustic mountain
The media sucked off Peyton and Brady as bad as they do Burrow, Mahomes, and Allen today
celest zephyr
Did a solid for his brother
celest zephyr
At least Brady has won 7 sbs
rustic mountain
Any time you get a good QB, they become media darlings and over hyped
rustic ore
Indeed
rustic mountain
Yes he did. And 6 of those weren't Mickey Mouse rings
celest zephyr
Justin Herbert is worse
rustic mountain
celest zephyr
I’m a big fan but he hasn’t been proven at all
At least mahomes burrow and Allen have won playoff games
rustic mountain
Herbert is arm talent with no ability to win rn
celest zephyr
https://tenor.com/view/hey-there-fuck-you-randy-marsh-south-park-hey-hey-fuck-yo...
Hey you got 2 in a year very impressive
If only the rays could have made it 3
rustic mountain
https://tenor.com/view/hey-there-fuck-you-randy-marsh-south-park-hey-hey-fuck-yo...
I only say it for one reason: All the bullshit of basically giving Brady's Bucs time as much attention as his pats time
rustic ore
Hey you got 2 in a year very impressive
3 in 2, Champa Bay bb
short flame
https://twitter.com/wbcbaseball/status/1635416679093092359?s=46&t=0dPhD14zL5uzVV...
That’s unfortunate. Luckily it’s only baseball
rustic mountain
It absolutely infuriates me
proud coyote
lmao we signed darnold as a third stringer
celest zephyr
As if he wasn’t the goat because of his patriots run
proud coyote
I don't hate it at all
celest zephyr
lmao we signed darnold as a third stringer
3 qb system
undone lion
I remember Peyton laid an egg in the playoffs in 2014 and the media said "Oh, th...
not sure if you mean the super bowl loss year (13-14) or the next one but man i grew up in colorado and do not remember that broncos playoff loss to the colts 😭
dim kettle
not sure if you mean the super bowl loss year (13-14) or the next one but man i ...
The Colts one yes
celest zephyr
Or else huge bust
rustic ore
I only say it for one reason: All the bullshit of basically giving Brady's Bucs ...
3 road games, 1 of which was against the league MVP in his house, and another against a team that swept us handily in the regular season and had a 10 point lead in that playoff game. They earned that ring man
rustic mountain
You don't remember Andrew Luck coming into your place and taking your lunch money in 14?
rustic ore
And then beating the defending SB champs (injured yes but still)
dim kettle
I swear, it felt like the NFL Media were the biggest simps for Peyton. It's the only reason I was super glad that Peyton was gonna retire. Nothing against him, but I just couldn't stand the NFL just thinking he was Jesus Christ on a week to week basis.
rustic mountain
3 road games, 1 of which was against the league MVP in his house, and another ag...
I give credit to the bucs. I just hate this nonsense of elevating Brady's Bucs career to the level of his Pats career
I see it a lot anymore on like NFL network graphics, Reddit fans
celest zephyr
I swear, it felt like the NFL Media were the biggest simps for Peyton. It's the ...
Thr worst thing I’ve seen is trying to make Big Ben look like a good guy in his last nfl season
dim kettle
At least with Mahomes he's got the rings already to show for it.
celest zephyr
Absolutely disgusting
short flame
Sorry if I’m not following the game, I’m at a restaurant
celest zephyr
Hé got a hero’s applause despite what he did
undone lion
You don't remember Andrew Luck coming into your place and taking your lunch mone...
not at all lol i remember the two years prior (jacoby jones ravens and then SB loss) and the super bowl win ofc but not the year in between
dim kettle
Thr worst thing I’ve seen is trying to make Big Ben look like a good guy in his ...
A real good guy as he banned from almost every bar in downtown Pittsburgh,
celest zephyr
Ooooh sabres leafs
dim kettle
Definitely no reason behind it.
celest zephyr
The leader of men
dim kettle
Now we upgraded to Captain Grope Fuck
celest zephyr
Deshaun rapethlisberger
rustic ore
Deshaun Cosby
celest zephyr
At this point short of giving someone an early trip the grave idk what would make a guy be permanently booted from the nfl
dim kettle
The best part was I was on reddit at the time Big Ben was getting suspended for those kind of things and Browns fans were looking for justice. Now they have Deshaun and it's like he's a saint.
celest zephyr
Loved seeing people somehow support Deshaun as qb
Despite being a disgusting human
Then again Kobe is revered as a literal god despite what he did
So i guess there’s no justice in life
rustic ore
Same with Mike Tyson
dim kettle
A lot of Bucs fans didn't want Jameis back after just one case of sexual harassment.
short flame
Ooooh sabres leafs
Last time I checked we were trailing
dim kettle
Yeah 2-1 rn
celest zephyr
Go leafs
celest zephyr
Need to built the secondary back up
To make a run
Especially after that spanking by Philly
And almost losing to the raiders
rustic ore
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1635446592713940992?t=7on85G7Roys28-sZrj2B6w...
Nice vet pick up for a young secondary with Stingley and Pitre
rustic ore
@versed forge Now I understand not wanting to overpay for Orlando Brown
warm kestrel
PUERTO RICO HAS NOT JUST MERCY RULED ISRAEL 10-0 AFTER 8 INNINGS, BUT THEY HAVE THROWN A PERFECT GAME!
rustic ore
But man, this is a rough downgrade https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/763900466316705802/1085005396906868776/Screenshot_20230313-210352.png
versed forge
<@948002307575017472> Now I understand not wanting to overpay for Orlando Brown
Yeah he’s kinda mid
Yeah idk it’s a weird pickup
I heard he played good in Jacksonville
rustic ore
Seems to have been an alright pass blocker
But considering RTs are supposed to be good run blockers and he's shit at it, and getting paid 80 mil, AND being expected to switch to LT?
Kinda yikes ngl
versed forge
But considering RTs are supposed to be good run blockers and he's shit at it, an...
I mean JT is younger too so lets see how he does next year. I'm sure he will be fine.
rustic ore
Think it would've been smarter to just draft an LT but I'm not a GM so
Just don't let him get Mahomes killed
dim kettle
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1635450782379065344
And to think this is the guy Mickey Loomis traded a lot of draft capital to move up and reach for this dude, only to not become the guy.
Mickey Loomis is a hack when it comes to the draft game.
rustic ore
Bit of an overpay imo from a guy who effectively was a one year wonder and not a particularly great one at that
But pass rushers are a premium position and the Vikings were prob desperate since Smith wants out
warm kestrel
So, is it a perfect game if it was only 8 innings?
celest zephyr
There’s been 7 inning ones
Idk perfect i think is more of i guess a no hitter
Or no runs
Like that has to be the closest thing to perfection in baseball i guess
Cause you can theoertically score until you run out of batters in an inning
dim kettle
Here's what Loomis gave up to pick Davenport back then.
The Saints gave up their first-round pick in 2018, No. 27 overall, along with a 2018 5th round choice and their first-round pick in 2019.
celest zephyr
If that’s even possible
Hé also gave up the farm for Chris olave
He’s a talented player but man for just a war
Wr
dim kettle
Loomis is not bright as a GM most of the time in the draft. It's like Bill Belichick these days.
rustic ore
Wr
One who more than likely would've been there for them to take at 16
And instead he felt like he needed to go up to 11 to get him
dim kettle
Olave sure wasn't that high on many mock drafts before the draft.
Literally could've took them at 16th. But the big one was Trevor Penning. Still don't get why they gave up their 1st to the Eagles for him.
celest zephyr
And gave the eagles a free top 10 pick
Had to make them more loaded than they already are sigh
dim kettle
2017 is the only reason Loomis still has a job with the Saints. Prove me wrong.
