Bryce
#sports
torn gale
The giants never suck at the right times for a qb draft
dim kettle
People like Brees and Russ have the been exception rather than the rule
rustic mountain
Yeah but why can't Bryce be one too
dim kettle
This isn’t my opinion. This is how GMs in the NFL do things
rustic mountain
You got Russ, Brees, and Murray showing that no matter the height as long as the talent is there it can be done
I think Carolina goes Young myself
Stroud if they really are size queens
dim kettle
Murray struggles with his height. He can’t dart the ball to guys like other QBs can.
rustic mountain
Idk if that has to do with his height really
dim kettle
It does actually. Those balls get batted away easily then
rustic mountain
Hm. Well
Why didnt it happen to Russ or Drew as often
Sounds more like something outside height to me if shorter guys can make it happen that aren't Murray
dim kettle
Because they’re also a few inches taller than Kyler and People like Drew worked his ass off to be elite with accuracy
rustic mountain
I mean. I don't believe that being slightly taller would really have as much of an effect like you're saying but okay
dim kettle
Everything can change with a matter of inches. Don’t underestimate that.
rustic mountain
I underestimate the batted balls thing when I saw Brock Osweiler get fucking swatted 3 times a game
And that dude was like 7 feet
dim kettle
You can see it in his film. He has to put air on the ball in order to get it to his guys 98% of the time.
dim kettle
I mean floating
rustic mountain
Look if it is true, then it's true. I am saying it looks anecdotal to me
And that being a shorter qb doesn't mean that Bryce Young is automatically gonna be having to float everything
If I am wrong I am wrong
dim kettle
I have no doubt about Young. But don’t be surprised if GMs look at his height and then pick CJ or Levis.
GMs are stupid that way
rustic mountain
If they do and Bryce turns out well then it'll just emboldened people later
To take short qbs
dim kettle
robust grotto
Never felt bears wanted to keep the pick. Holy shit though
rustic ore
I'd say all things considered a decent haul for Chicago and nothing that will hamstring Carolina majorly if they hit with whatever QB they take #1
Good trade for both sides
versed forge
https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1634337713598939136?s=20
I doubt they do that
rustic ore
Also gonna call it now, pick up Darnell Mooney somewhat early in fantasy next year
Moore let's him stay in the slot completely now instead of having to be moved outside occasionally, so he's gonna become Fields safety blanket on the field with other guys taking attention away and give him plenty of 1v1s
celest zephyr
https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1634337713598939136?s=20
Hahahaha what
That’d be so dumb
rustic mountain
https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1634337713598939136?s=20
What in the fuck
You gave up all that shit and you don't even have a qb you're sold on???
celest zephyr
Panthers are continuing the nfc south being lolcows
Who is even playing wr for them anyways
Is the qb just going to throw it up in the air to himself?
@dim ledge
How bout the scuderia?
rustic ore
Who is even playing wr for them anyways
Terrace Marshall and that's pretty much it
celest zephyr
Ah yes the next Rodgers and adams
rustic ore
Laviska Shenault, Shi Smith
celest zephyr
Or Brady and moss
Yeah that sounds like the bears
Before this year
Good young qb, nonexistent receiving core or o line
I seriously don’t get this
No qb is going to succeed with the coaching and supporting cast they have here
Should have traded another first instead of your one good wr
That you know the qb has to throw the ball to
Freaking jakobi meyers is better as a wr 1 than Marshall
This is your best wr????? A guy who can’t even get 40 yards per game
Two receptions per game
Barely over three targets a game
How can you justify trading your best wr when this is the guy behind him
rustic ore
How can you justify trading your best wr when this is the guy behind him
Probably because it's easier to find a good WR than it is to find a good QB? 
Tepper probably is desperate for any success after his fuck up with the Rhule experiment
celest zephyr
Yeah I guess
But any young qb needs someone to throw to
Hé can’t just throw it to big self
Himself
Yeah this just reeks of despartion
Trying to swing big or go home
I guess if you get someone like mahomes maybe it’ll work out
But even mahomes had kelce and hill when je started
smoky fable
Tepper probably is desperate for any success after his fuck up with the Rhule ex...
That is a terrible spot for a young qb
celest zephyr
Obv he nwould have been elite regardless with Reid but still for a young guy it’s nice to have safety blanbkets
smoky fable
Traded their best weapon too
celest zephyr
Guys who can make plays without the qb having to get them open
Or making them catch contested catches
Yeah it is
How is a young qb supposed to excel when the team is devoid of offensive talent around him?
Out of all positions qb depends the most on the strength of your teammates at least as a rookie
rustic ore
That is a terrible spot for a young qb
Not the greatest but there are worse spots, at least they just drafted a really talented LT last year, and their D is both nice and they just grabbed an up and coming DC in Evero
celest zephyr
You can’t throw the ball to yourself. You have to let someone else take over most of time
A goalie can clutch it out
smoky fable
Not the greatest but there are worse spots, at least they just drafted a really ...
No running backs or receivers
smoky fable
Who can you trust
celest zephyr
Exactly a qb throws to people
celest zephyr
A lt is nice but not when you have more time to throw to no one
rustic ore
RBs usually fall so they could grab someone Day 2
smoky fable
There's always FA and the Draft
This FA class is poor
celest zephyr
yeah this looks a ripe fa class to get decent depth
smoky fable
And a WR in the second in a weak class? Worrisome
celest zephyr
Not to get a true wr1 or even wr2
smoky fable
They can’t even get a good wide receiver next year since they traded the pick
smoky fable
There's always FA and the Draft
I think the Bears made out like bandits
celest zephyr
They did for sure
rustic ore
Indeed
smoky fable
Even if DJ Moore is stuck in a worse area in my opinion with the weather
celest zephyr
Got two legit wars now
Wrs
Eh i mean there are lots of places with worse weather than Carolina
I’d still rather be on the 49ers or sehawks than the panthères
robust grotto
A goalie can clutch it out
Truth. Jonathan Quick 2012 was on god tier level clutch
robust grotto
Carey’d
robust grotto
Dude it’s not even funny ywah
dim kettle
Patrick Roy used to make that like a regular Tuesday.
dim kettle
Predators went from being carried by renne to saros
Just too good right now.
celest zephyr
One of his best jinxes
dim kettle
It was how he got the jinx habit from.
robust grotto
When we were kids it was Vokoun for a while and Mike Dunham way back. Neither are Saros or Rinne but Nashville has been good in goal
And they somewhat recently drafted a goalie in the first round
celest zephyr
Can’t develop rings though unfortunately
robust grotto
2020 I think? Will be interesting there
dim kettle
Really depends,
celest zephyr
I guess
robust grotto
Yeah there’s no formula w them
celest zephyr
Idk I’m just used to never being able to develop goalies
dim kettle
You gotta look up the farm system reports to really have an idea of what players are going up and doing good.
celest zephyr
And churning out trash like joseph woll, sparks, Hutchinson
robust grotto
I will say tho Vasi is the absolute best of this gen and it’s not even a question
celest zephyr
Yeah fair enough
Leafs got a tall ass goalie recently
So hopefully he ends up being half decent
robust grotto
There was a little period where teams were scared of picking goalies in the first and then Vasi came along
robust grotto
That too dude great point
celest zephyr
Igor is probably the closest
dim kettle
I will say tho Vasi is the absolute best of this gen and it’s not even a questio...
And all this came because Holland wanted Kyle Quincey.
robust grotto
His size is another game changer, teams have been zeroing on that lately
I think Minny and that Wallstedt is similar in size but.. don’t quote me
celest zephyr
Hearing holland is all i need to know about shitty decisions
robust grotto
I know they’re suuuper high on him
robust grotto
And all this came because Holland wanted Kyle Quincey.
Haaaa that’s great
celest zephyr
Idk how Spencer knight is doing
dim kettle
Shame because he was a mastermind of a GM when I was a kid.
celest zephyr
Hé was pretty hyped for the panthers
robust grotto
Knight was, yeah
celest zephyr
Knew them trading two players about as good as tkachuk for just him was an bad idea short erm,
dim kettle
The problem with Knight is he's not gonna get all the starting reps he really needs. Not with a 10 million blackhole they have in Bobrovsky.
robust grotto
I’m trying to find a list
celest zephyr
Bob terrible contract
dim kettle
They signed him for being a great goaltender. But I like to think Florida saw what he did in the first round against the Bolts and just saw nothing but red when they signed him.
dim kettle
Granted a late 1st rounder.
dim kettle
It's hard to say knowing Vasy was a 1st rounder but the best place for goaltenders by the numbers is like the 3rd and 4th round.
robust grotto
That’s definitely the consensus yeah
Some are definitely justified in the end
But like everything, it’s a risk at the time
dim kettle
Granted people like Vasy and Martin Brodeur were 1st rounders. But I think it's safe to say they're the exception and not the rule.
robust grotto
NYR for example I can name; Lundqvist 7th rounder, Shesterkin 4th rounder, Cam Talbot undrafted FA, Georgiev undrafted FA
There’s no formula hahah it’s just crazy
celest zephyr
Same with QBs really
dim kettle
The NHL and MLB drafts are so hard to say early if anyone is a bust or not for the most part. You have to wait like 5-6 years to know if someone is a bust or not and sometimes, they're traded before that could happen.
celest zephyr
Dak was a 4th rounder Brady was a 6th rpunfder
robust grotto
Without a doubt
robust grotto
Hockey golden rule, imo, is you don’t know a draft until 5 summers out
dim kettle
I wish hockey and baseball would spotlight a lot of these young guys. Because trust me, you have to look deep to see how your top picks are doing year by year.
celest zephyr
Hockey golden rule, imo, is you don’t know a draft until 5 summers out
Or ever
If they get traded toi another team
And they pan out then who knows if it 2was the right choice anyways
rustic ore
Rey Mysterio going into the WWE HOF 
rustic ore
Wonder if Rey is gonna put Dominick over since they seem to be setting them up for a match at Mania?
dim kettle
Probably are. But I gotta say. Obviously, they have Rhea Ripley going against X-Pac heat herself Charlotte at Mania. But the rest of the Judgement Day just feels aimless rn. Please give Finn something to do.
robust grotto
If they get traded toi another team
Yeah not wrong. I guess I should phrase it better: it takes 5 years for your team to have a good idea of a draft class
celest zephyr
Or just win a playoff series
rustic ore
Probably are. But I gotta say. Obviously, they have Rhea Ripley going against X-...
Think they’re gonna have him go 1v1 with Edge at Mania
robust grotto
Either players make it, are traded, don’t even get signed
dim kettle
Think they’re gonna have him go 1v1 with Edge at Mania
If they are, they're doing a bare minimum job of making it such a big deal rn.
Once again, you gotta look into the farm reports every year to see how a lot of these guys are doing. But I think, if you're trading prospects for current big fish and picks you probably did a good job drafting them even if they don't make it to the NHL ice with your team.
rustic ore
dim kettle
The one guy I remember is the Isles Michael Dal Colle. Get's picked 5th overall and then disappears from the face of the earth. Like vintage Garth Snow stuff right there.
robust grotto
@celest zephyr https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00008490.html go check out 2018
dim kettle
I got a good laugh looking at the 2010 draft and not seeing the Leafs having a 1st round pick. Could've had Tyler Seguin, guys.
Instead you got the hotdog man.
celest zephyr
<@456226577798135808> https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00008490.html...
Hollowell and holmberg finally made the roster
And durzi could have helped
Along with sandin getting booted
To the caps
Where he will so,me how have a better chance at winning a cup
Yay i love drafts
The leafs drafted 12 players in 2020
Welp
And then 3 in 2021
dim kettle
You know, I keep forgetting Yzerman drafted Tony DeAngelo and then shipped him to Arizona which we picked Libor Hájek and then had him traded to the Rangers as part of that JT Miller McDonagh trade in 2018.
celest zephyr
Hey blowing something up is hard work
It’s hard to make very little good decisions and still have a job for that long
rustic ore
smoky fable
https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1634339859606192128
Qbs going 1,2,3 huh
rustic ore
Doesn't Ari still have #3?
smoky fable
They’re probably going to trade down with how things are going
smoky fable
Doesn't Ari still have #3?
They do, but there’s a market evidently
versed forge
https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1634339859606192128
Over bryce young???
rustic ore
For me personally it's a 1A 1B between him and Young, but I would give the edge to Stroud because of his height in comparison to Young
dawn tapir
https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1634339859606192128
Imagine if they get anthony richardson at 1 lol
rustic ore
He does have the highest ceiling of any of the QBs in this class but if Carolina gave up all they did to take a project QB #1 in the draft then they deserve what they get
dawn tapir
texans surely get Young now right?
rustic ore
Seems so
Honestly though if they sign Garoppolo and drafted Richardson to sit behind him that wouldn't be terrible imo
dawn tapir
i wonder what the colts end up doing. if the cards trade the 3# pick to a team that wants a QB would the colts still draft a QB or would they try to trade for lamar or something.
dawn tapir
Imagine they take Will Levis
i mean if whoever at 3 takes Richardson. then he would be the best qb available then right? Then again they're prolly better off trying to get lamar.
rustic ore
Indeed
But even if he would be the "best available" doesn't mean he'd be a good choice at 4th overall
dim kettle
I'm just waiting for the Bucs to luck into getting Richardson.
rustic ore
Perfectly ready to eat crow but I see nothing special about him whatsovever
Levis to me is a worse version of Dak Prescott
dim kettle
But you know GMs will love him based on his looks alone.
dawn tapir
who's the best qb after levis?
rustic ore
Probably Hooker
celest zephyr
They’re probably going to trade down with how things are going
Cvsan’t see them keeping it
Tom valuable for a non qb
celest zephyr
Levis to me is a worse version of Dak Prescott
Dak isn’t that bad according to his father
And also jerryun jones
rustic ore
But the biggest concerns people have about him are his age, him coming off of a torn ACL, and apparently the offense he played in at Tennessee was so insanely simplistic it wouldn't translate
rustic ore
And also jerryun jones
Except come playoff time when Cowboys gonna Cowboys
celest zephyr
But the biggest concerns people have about him are his age, him coming off of a ...
But hey if a guy can throw a ball far or well that doesn’t matter
dim kettle
Actually glad CJ is probably gonna be number one. Because people just assume GMs would pick Bryce Young over Levis or Stroud. Like, GMs are gonna look at his size and think that's a bit of a risk getting him at number one.
rustic ore
I honestly like Hooker enough that I'd be willing to take a flyer on him
dawn tapir
i could see a team draft stetson bennett as a 5th or 6th round gamble or something
rustic ore
I honestly like Hooker enough that I'd be willing to take a flyer on him
Regardless of the O he played in I've seen that dude make some elite NFL quality throws
rustic ore
i could see a team draft stetson bennett as a 5th or 6th round gamble or somethi...
He'll be lucky to be drafted at all
dawn tapir
I honestly like Hooker enough that I'd be willing to take a flyer on him
would hooker be drafted in the 1st?
celest zephyr
Regardless of the O he played in I've seen that dude make some elite NFL quality...
That’s how you end up with trey lance as your qb
Because can throw ball far
dim kettle
A lot of QBs can make NFL throws, but also make a bunch of shit ones.
rustic ore
would hooker be drafted in the 1st?
Tough call
celest zephyr
It’s okay we somehow have Brock purdy be the next Brady
Or at least passable at a qb
So i can stop hearing trey lance
Either that or he ends up being able to pass short balls also
rustic ore
He'll be lucky to be drafted at all
Short, weak arm, not hyper athletic, got carried by elite talent all around him and still only put up mediocre numbers
dim kettle
Lance was a project for a HC. That's been a thing since before the draft.
celest zephyr
A lot of QBs can make NFL throws, but also make a bunch of shit ones.
That’s why they are even prospects
rustic ore
He himself is also on the older side
celest zephyr
My point is he was a prospect because he could make deeep throws and run the ball
dawn tapir
He'll be lucky to be drafted at all
Ordinarily yes but since Purdy's success maybe teams want to replicate that lol
celest zephyr
And run a diet nfl offense against a shitty divisojn
dim kettle
To many, he was Josh Allen 2.0
celest zephyr
For me i wish he could get the fuck off of my team
dim kettle
Lance has to get out of SF though.
celest zephyr
So i can actually have a competent backup qb
Because either purdy is or a bette qb which can actually pass the ball
dim kettle
You know, Lance only had 2 games last year. We can't be 100% sure the dude hasn't improved as a passer. Which was why it sucked he got hurt early on.
rustic ore
He's gonna be given every opportunity to be the starter for them next season
In fact I'd be shocked if going into training camp he isn't the starter
celest zephyr
I hope he can pass the ball
dim kettle
But we also have to look at the fact that Josh Allen didn't become a pretty good passer till year 3. I think if things went what they should've went last year, Lance would've taken the Niners to the playoffs with his legs alone.
rustic ore
Purdy obviously deserves it but they gave up too much to get Lance to not give him every chance to prove if he's a bust or not
celest zephyr
I’m just tired of hearing can he or won’t he for now threee off-season in a row
dim kettle
That's on Kyle for not starting him when he was a rookie.
dim kettle
Maybe he got hurt there, but clearly they didn't take full advantage of his rookie contract.
dawn tapir
do you think the bears also trade back the 9 pick as well?
dim kettle
They probably could. But they also need to build around Fields.
dim kettle
I swear if the Bears draft a defenseman with the 1st round pick.
rustic ore
do you think the bears also trade back the 9 pick as well?
Nah, they have too many holes on their roster, I go BPA if I'm them, preferably O-line so they stop trying to kill Fields
dim kettle
I think they can go to 12th-13 overall if the price is right. Either way, they need to draft OL.
Peter Skoronski is what I'm assuming rn.
dawn tapir
is that stanford QB Tanner McKee any good? i see that he's 6"6 230 lbs
celest zephyr
That's on Kyle for not starting him when he was a rookie.
I really wish he did in hindsight
Because jimmy g can’t figure out how to stay healthy
For his life
Beyond being made up of. Glass
celest zephyr
is that stanford QB Tanner McKee any good? i see that he's 6"6 230 lbs
He’s tall and large. Someone will try to drafdt him
rustic ore
is that stanford QB Tanner McKee any good? i see that he's 6"6 230 lbs
I'm doubtful, I'd say his best case scenario is Mike Glennon 2.0
Career back up
dim kettle
is that stanford QB Tanner McKee any good? i see that he's 6"6 230 lbs
He has a big arm. But he's very inconsistent, ball placement is not so good. Also once his first read is taken away he stops working.
dim kettle
Honestly another example of a QB that can make NFL throws time to time but probably couldn't play a lick.
celest zephyr
Hey another Zach wilson
That will somehow get wildly over drafted
Because he can throw things
rustic ore
Because he can throw things
But can he bang his friend's mom like Zach Wilson?
I think not
Point goes to the Mormon
😏
dim kettle
Wilson was based on potential no doubt he had Mahomes/Rodgers like throws. Which was why I was high on him. T-Law was more NFL ready but Wilson had the bigger celling. Just a shame the dude hasn't progressed and shown to not be a leader of men.
dawn tapir
Mike white is an upcoming free agent right?
rustic ore
Mike white is an upcoming free agent right?
Yup
celest zephyr
Or not cause fights with his teammates
dim kettle
The dude looked like a headless chicken out there.
celest zephyr
Please be the cardinals next qb
After they ditch Kyler
So then they can be resigned to mediocrity for 5 more years
dim kettle
Wilson might as well be playing in the XFL in a few years. If he can't improve his pocket presence
dim kettle
Does anyone even know WTF the Falcons are even doing anymore?
dawn tapir
i really hope Sam howell does really well next season. Like imagine if he somehow wins MVP cause of eric bieniemy
dim kettle
You know, they won 7 games last year, but don't be surprised if they only win 3 at max next year.
There's just nothing there but wasting Kyle Pitts.
celest zephyr
Well hey they can choke
Very well
Really they should just blow the door open
And stoop pretending to rebuilding
dawn tapir
Well hey they can choke
they have competition with the chargers on choking. 
dim kettle
The Falcons did blow it up. But it's like they blew it up and then had no idea what to do afterwards.
celest zephyr
So then they just went back to square 1
dim kettle
Just like most dumpster fire organizations do
We're still talking about a team that still hasn't recovered from 28-3.
dim kettle
You know, I just don't trust Arthur Blank as an owner. You can't luck yourself into franchise QBs forever
celest zephyr
I never did
His name represents what i think of him when it comers to making a right team
dim kettle
The Bucs are in no man's land rn and yet they feel like they have the better future ahead than the Falcons.
dawn tapir
At least the falcons have nice young offensive pieces in drake london and Kyle pitts. They really need a QB. If they don't draft or trade for one then Jimmy G it is.
celest zephyr
Well they will probably
dim kettle
The Falcons are gonna look back at that 2021 draft and wonder if they should've gotten a QB instead.
celest zephyr
And then not develop him properly
dim kettle
Same with the Broncos.
undone lion
At least the falcons have nice young offensive pieces in drake london and Kyle p...
They’re most likely sticking with Ridder for next year
smoky fable
If they were smart, they'd go after Lamar Jackson
celest zephyr
But her costs too much
smoky fable
For a qb?
dawn tapir
If they were smart, they'd go after Lamar Jackson
the colts are prolly thinking the same thing lol
celest zephyr
Or at least not thinking of paying that much for a qb
smoky fable
Aren’t they broke
No they're not
undone lion
They absolutely should try for Lamar but they don’t seem interested
dawn tapir
the colts might be tho
celest zephyr
Oh they have that much
My bad
Well they’ll probably figure someone to waste money on
Who can barely do anything
undone lion
Idk why it took them so long to go to Ridder this past season
celest zephyr
They wanted to be relevant
And conveniently the nfc south gave them that chance
Their loss
They’ll just suck for years to come
dawn tapir
Do you think the Vikings trade cousins?
dawn tapir
to who?
dim kettle
Who would take Cousins at this point? You know he's a FA next year.
dim kettle
If the Colts were desperate they'd be on the phone rn with the Cards and get that 3rd overall pick.
dawn tapir
So are the commanders
idk bout commanders they seem to want to try howell
celest zephyr
Well maybe dan Snyder wants a reunion
To make his treat rtelevamt
Or the jets
If they don’t get Rodgers
Hey maybe cousins could do an anti Favre and go from the vikings to the packers
So the vikings can finally get an actual qb
That’s good and not massively ovwerpiad
dim kettle
Packers want to use Love. That's the whole thing as to why they're willing to trade A-Rod.
celest zephyr
Or they realize they made a mistake
And that Rodgers refuses to agree to sign a contreact
And instead complains for an entire offseason
Instead of committing to the team he’s on
They’d be ina. Much better place nin they didn’t draft lover in the first place
Like idiots in the first round
And instead drafted a good wr
dim kettle
While I agree, not drafting a receiver there backfired hilariously. But you also have to look at the context of when it happened. Rodgers' future was very much uncertain.
celest zephyr
It was but still hey pissing him off wasn’t the right idea
Clearly it didn’t work out since he went berserk
dim kettle
Love looked pretty good the starts he's had. But we don't have how much impact the dude will have till Rodgers is gone.
celest zephyr
Which they still shoudln’t have tried
And they somehow know less about him than trey lance
Which is really impressive
dim kettle
Trask and Love are really two QBs to really look at because they're either gonna overachieve or they're gonna burn hilariously.
celest zephyr
Or they will both be mid
Which they probably;y are
In which case we have wasted a lot of time
And so have both teams
So everyone loses
dim kettle
The Bucs weren't getting a QB in this year's draft anyways. Might as well use the guy who was under Brady for 3 years
My biggest concern is if the Bucs finish in the middle next year. I either want Trask to have his come out party or flam out. No in betweens.
celest zephyr
Yeah but he didn’t turn out to be much of anything beyond a decent start
undone lion
My biggest concern is if the Bucs finish in the middle next year. I either want ...
Pretty decent chance they could finish in the middle too lol
celest zephyr
Who can’t stay in shape
They probably will;
Because they are the perfect ta;ended enough but not talented enough
dim kettle
The Bucs in this retooling shit. How are you gonna retool stuff when you can't resign the pieces of the foundation?
undone lion
Entire NFC south is doubling down on trying to see who can be the most mid
dim kettle
I mean, the Panthers are at least doing some things right. now.
celest zephyr
Yeah but they are still going to be mid for years to come
Because they can’t get an actual qb
Or actually have decent coaches
dim kettle
The Panthers almost won the NFC South with a interim HC and multiple QBs. I think they're better than a lot of people are giving them credit for.
dim kettle
Doesn't matter. The fact that they started so bad and were able to win 7 games in the shitty situation they were in tells me they're not far off.
celest zephyr
Maybe we’ll have to see
dim kettle
And BTW, the NFC South isn't gonna much better. They were 4-2 in that division and might have well been 5-1 if things went right in OT against ATL.
celest zephyr
I would not call their schedule the hardest
Okay sure they could win their division
Because its mid or worse
But idk maybe unless they can get a decent qb and o line do i see them doing anything once they make the plauoffs
dim kettle
I can see the Panthers winning 10 games if things go right.
The problem now is clearly they're gonna build the team around CJ Stroud. Well, that came with the price of the number one weapon there DJ Moore. They need new everything there.
undone lion
I can see the Panthers winning 10 games if things go right.
Yeah I’d say that’s probably their best case scenario this upcoming year
undone lion
It is a whole new coaching staff too
celest zephyr
Plenty of meh teams have had soft schedules and then did nothing in thr playoffs
I’ll have to see next season
dim kettle
The NFC is also wide open at the moment.
celest zephyr
If they are good
Which is almost 6 months from now
But the eagles are better
And also the giants if saquon doesn’t leave
And the cowboys are also
undone lion
Plenty of meh teams have had soft schedules and then did nothing in thr playoffs
Yeah I don’t think they’ll be actually good but they could end up with a solid record
celest zephyr
And the 49ers if they can actually find two QBs that can play an entire season
dim kettle
The Eagles and Niners will be the top 2 teams and we'll see from there. The Lions and Giants could be behind them.
celest zephyr
And not require 3
Idk the cowboys feel like they’ll be better at least Nernst season
Domn’t think they’
ll fall off that hard
Lions and giants sure
dim kettle
The Cowboys? They're probably gonna be fairly similar. The defense will win them games. But the drama going on with the offense rn might become a problem.
torn gale
There will be a new nfc east division winner next season
celest zephyr
Idk maybe I’m just not that high on the panthers
torn gale
Our turn!
celest zephyr
Sure why not eagles still better anyways
dim kettle
I think we're looking at a reality rn where Dak is only gonna good for so long.
celest zephyr
At least he’ll be fine next season
undone lion
Dak’s probably not getting any better
dim kettle
It's all gonna depend if DJ will progress or regress hard.
celest zephyr
So he’s still an above average starter
undone lion
Yeah that’s fine
celest zephyr
Idk i have my reservations on the panthers making it above decent next season
undone lion
Me too I’d guess below .500 still
dim kettle
The NFC just feels hopeless rn. The NFC South is a literal mystery box. At least 3 of the 4 teams there have a chance of making the playoffs. And that's both funny and sad.
dim kettle
I can only hope the Lions can go like 10-0 to start the season. That'd be the highlight for me.
dim kettle
The Vikings are hoping to fix that defense issues. But then you have Mr. Checkdown on 4th and long, Kid Cousins himself
Next year is just gonna be sad to look at for the Vikings.
Just the definition of insanity there.
rustic mountain
I mean you gotta give Poles some credit
He isn't Pace
And he is already doing a TON better than the Bears team that traded up for
Mitchell KissinTitties
dim kettle
It helps that bean accounting Ted is no longer president there
rustic mountain
Would like to see the Bears do a little better
dim kettle
Anything to make the 5 forced primetime games more watchable.
Thank god we're beyond the days of Bean Accounting Ted, Goofy George, Pretty Boy Pace, and Numbskull Nagy.
rustic mountain
Who is Chicago's coach rn
dim kettle
Eberflus
Oh, but they still have problems. Their OC is a big one. He's nicknamed Gutless Getsy for a reason. "We need to run the ball and run the clock down, like we're still playing in 1985."
rustic mountain
Very "we are on 2nd down on our own 20, better knell it twice and punt"
celest zephyr
Very "we are on 2nd down on our own 20, better knell it twice and punt"
Hey it’s better than whatever Matt Patricia calls
At least it only loses two yards at most
I just want Aaron Rodgers to be a jet
So indon’t have to see so many videos about him
celest zephyr
After all its pretty boring to see is Aaron going to stay or is he leaving or is he being traded
dim ledge
you dont have to interact with their fans as much as i do
celest zephyr
Why should i care about the jets?
They aren’t even in the same conference
Yes they are insufferable;le enough
But if Rodgers sucks then they’ll be deflated
And plus there’s no way he can help them win a chip
Thé jets will burn as always
dim kettle
you dont have to interact with their fans as much as i do
I live with them.
dim ledge
"actually with rodgers and our o line all our team needs is a better offensive coordinator and a few weapons at WR and i really think we can make a push for playoffs and"
celest zephyr
Just use them as background noise
dim ledge
beginning of the season i went to shoprite, our local NJ/NY grocery chain
just to get groceries
went to get fish and the fishmonger was a jets fan
saw my Kittle jersey, we began talking
"yeah I think the niners have a GOOD, but not GREAT defense"
"honestly yeah i do think the jets have a better defense right now"
i just kinda nodded and smiled
"y-yeah man for sure haha"
dim kettle
Trust me, it was quite the fun time seeing Jet fans cope with Revis being traded to the Bucs all those years ago. My cousin, "Well, Revis was declining anyways, he's not that good anymore."
celest zephyr
That’s also why i don’t wear nfl merch not that they’ll actually reliably ship it to Canada
celest zephyr
Trust me, it was quite the fun time seeing Jet fans cope with Revis being traded...
Thé jets are fueled by copium
And sadness
celest zephyr
Shoukldn’t they be masochists?
celest zephyr
I can’t imagine anyone wanting toi suffer through being the jets
Oh okay
It’s fine I’m Chinese
They probably are sadists also anyways
dim kettle
They're also Mets, Rangers, and Knick fans. They're used to pain.
dim ledge
at least 2/3 of those franchises make playoffs and have had deep runs relatively recently
dim kettle
Knicks are a tire fire.
dim ledge
Im convinced Knicks, at this point, are just part of the culture moreso than a willing team to be a fan of
dim kettle
Fuck you, James Dolan.
celest zephyr
James Dolan is too busy counting the dollars he makes from his team
Despite doing nothing
dim kettle
No, no, he cares more about his crappy house band.
celest zephyr
That’s what he invests his money into
I’m not surprised
Must have too big of an ego to realize his music sucks
Can’t be worse than whatever Antonio brown calls rap
dim kettle
He literally will get triggered at random fans that tell him to sell the team.
dim ledge
Antonio Brown belongs in an institution
dim kettle
It's sad and pathetic
dim ledge
very low floor comparison wise
god
being an NFL fan sucks we have to wait this long for any action?
celest zephyr
The knicks represent how pathetic their owner is
dim ledge
celest zephyr
Tell the nfl to add more regular season games
dim ledge
i would but those players get beat up
celest zephyr
And also make the Super Bowl a 10 game series
dim ledge
smoky fable
"honestly yeah i do think the jets have a better defense right now"
It has to be banter. There is some discussion to argue I guess since that was their only strength of the team.
dim ledge
keep in mind
this was early season
i think we were 1-3 at this point
and jets were kinda winning
so
celest zephyr
Jets aren’t be,ow 500 and their fans go berserk
Omg they can win something
And then they realize they are the New Jersey jets
dim kettle
Jets to NJ are a lot like the countless potholes on NJ roads.
Very annoying thing that NJ are stuck with.
dim kettle
I can make a novel out of that.
dim ledge
googling NJ toll booth accident gets some hilarious results
like
oh fuck you
look at this dude
dim kettle
The toll booth capital of the world, baby!
smoky fable
Yep
dim ledge
i think the most "...how" accident ive ever seen in nj
was a sedan smooshed under a bus
no i dont know how it happened
i just drove past it like ?????????????????????
smoky fable
Good old New Jersey
celest zephyr
Whart’s the point off having roads then
dim ledge
natural selection, mostly
celest zephyr
If they are just filled with car crashes
Hahaha well could be a worse way to get rid of the idiots
dim kettle
North Jersey alone is just a bunch of New Yorkers who couldn't get a home in the city. Just imagine a New Yorker trying to drive. oof
dim ledge
tbh the worst accidents in NJ occur with cars that have PA plates
celest zephyr
Ah yes somehow even more of a train wreck in terms of human functionality than New York or New Jersey
dim kettle
People from Philly don't know how to drive either, so it makes sense.
smoky fable
People from Philly don't know how to drive either, so it makes sense.
People from Philly….. well you know
celest zephyr
When there is an entire soap opera about them you know it’s bad
dim kettle
Crash harder than the Eagles defense in the second half
smoky fable
This eagles fan got a superbowl tattoo
I hear tattoo removal is expensive
versed forge
Yeah it also leaves a terrible scar
honest umbra
Lakers with such a good win over raps
ham has finally cooked a formula
AD with only 8 pts and we somehow still win
smoky fable
Lakers with such a good win over raps
Looks like those moves paid off
rustic mountain
This eagles fan got a superbowl tattoo
Big yikes
celest zephyr
Lakers with such a good win over raps
They actually have players that know how to play basketball now. Crazy
solid dagger
AD with only 8 pts and we somehow still win
I like how they managed to build this team, I hope they will make the playoffs
calm mulch
What is up with KD and joining already strong teams
does this dude want to always have an asterisk on everything he does ?
softest generational talent ever
hasty basin
What is up with KD and joining already strong teams
Lmao
He wont get a statue anywhere
hasty basin
Why are you bringing main team tryhards @dim ledge
David Brooks is on the bench
Cool to see
celest zephyr
Lakers with such a good win over raps
Yeassss
Please beat the raptors so they rebuild
versed forge
Lakers with such a good win over raps
Lakers playoffs? 👀
AR15 was cooking last night 🔥
D Lo too
robust grotto
Waking up to that Liverpool result just put me in an awful mood
I hate that we’re fighting each other @hasty basin
hasty basin
Yeah well
Southampton can go fuck themselves and go down
Everton too ig
But the 3rd team idk
hasty basin
Ok great
robust grotto
What an awful thing for me to wake up to
hasty basin
Everton just scored
robust grotto
But congrats still
Omfg
Bro I thinks it’s going to be WH
we can’t beat Liverpool
hasty basin
This is like the first time we haven't blown a lead
Pavard and Cancelo scored
That's interesting
And Richarlison just scored
What is going on 
Oh well it got disallowed
Still on 0 goals
robust grotto
Hey @short flame we can’t be friends today 💔
hexed galleon
tulip barn
hasty basin
Daka what a fucking goal
hasty basin
This league man 😭
You need to play
Random players vs us lol
Look what happened with Arsenal
ESR Reiss Nelson
And fuckin Ben White off the bench
That was so short lived by Chelsea
They are getting destroyed now
robust grotto
Disaster bro
This is a disaster
Every fucking weekend
Results always going against me
hasty basin
WElp
Everton 2-0
This aint looking good
It's funny because they're like the only team I have confidence in
That we will win against them
robust grotto
Bro this is looking awful
Simply awful
Leeds tie. Everton at least got that goal disallowed but it’s looking like they can score 2. Fucking Leicester even scoring
short flame
Hey <@702887230217125928> we can’t be friends today 💔
Rangers?
robust grotto
Every Friday night I go to sleep knowing that the results at the weekend are to cause tremendous pain
short flame
Me too
robust grotto
We have problem against teams like you
short flame
I’m scared of playing anyone
robust grotto
Even in your most shit games you guys score 4 goals like nothing
NYR can’t play like that
short flame
High scoring teams?
robust grotto
Yeah, high scoring and fast teams
short flame
Yeah only thing we can do
robust grotto
Big weakness for us, NYR are pretty slow. You’ll see tn
NYR want to play like Barca
Everyone touches the puck and then pass it in
hasty basin
LMAO WTF
That was such a random goal
Amazing pass from Enzo
And Havertz kinda just nonchalanty scored
robust grotto
Twitter
robust grotto
Tiki takasenko
Love that lol. He’s one of the few shooters we have
short flame
We’ll see how it goes, I want the team to win but we’re out of the race after the past few collapses. And you know you’re my bet for winning the whole thing
short flame
That was such a random goal
Bournemouth playing?
short flame
short flame
You can still survive
hasty basin
Bournemouth playing?
We played already and beat Liverpool
robust grotto
You can still survive
I know but legit bro every weekend it looks worse and worse
short flame
Lunik you just have to put Leicester down
robust grotto
We still have all the big teams to play
Promise you we cannot beat Liverpool
I fear the worst brother I really do
simple seal
Duality of man
robust grotto
So painful
hasty basin
Lmao
robust grotto
Good for Bournemouth after what happened last week
robust grotto
Hahaha all it takes is a win
short flame
I fear the worst brother I really do
Beat villa tomorrow. All you need is someone to shoot, that shit keeper needs to be exposed
hasty basin
City battered both gws
robust grotto
Beat villa tomorrow. All you need is someone to shoot, that shit keeper needs to...
Yeah. We have to take care of ourselves
hasty basin
Liverpool smacked us first GW vs them
short flame
Both came back from 2-0 against us Lmao
That’s painful
hasty basin
Chelsea won fairly easily as wel
robust grotto
Problem is WH legit go into every game with 8 defenders Lmfao it just makes no sense bro
short flame
You spursed against spurs
short flame
Problem is WH legit go into every game with 8 defenders Lmfao it just makes no s...
If that’s all you got
robust grotto
Then it’s “wHY aREn’t tHeY Scoring?!” Cause it’s 5 atb plus 3 dms. It’s insane
short flame
Then it’s “wHY aREn’t tHeY Scoring?!” Cause it’s 5 atb plus 3 dms. It’s insane
I hate 5 at the back
robust grotto
5 ATB is okay for us
robust grotto
oh wow
robust grotto
:0
hasty basin
It's actually shit
robust grotto
Don’t show Moyes
hasty basin
short flame
Every time Cali plays with 5 at the back we get battered
robust grotto
Great buy
short flame
I don’t get the manager, we go on a decent run, then when we play a decent team he changes to 5 at the back and then we lose. Changing formations out of nowhere with no preparations. I hate it
hasty basin
I don’t get the manager, we go on a decent run, then when we play a decent team ...
Yeah me too
It's just the case of nervousness I think
short flame
Yeah I guess
hasty basin
I'm in no position to talk I'm not a manager obviously
But I still think that's just tunnel vision
I'm winning vs a good team? park the bus
They're gonna break through eventually
short flame
I'm winning vs a good team? park the bus
I’m ok with parking the bus if your team knows how to do it. Like Jose. But starting a game with 5atb when you know it doesn’t work (our fullbacks are useless) and we don’t have a decent third centre back
hasty basin
I’m ok with parking the bus if your team knows how to do it. Like Jose. But star...
You actually do need a class manager like Jose for that
He's proficient in that style
So
Bayern 5-2
Davies
LMAO what is going on with the fullbacks
short flame
Brighton Chelsea and spurs have to win
hasty basin
short flame
Leave Everton alone in
hasty basin
Brighton Chelsea and spurs have to win
I'm watching the Chelsea game
And Leicester were battering them
For a little while
hasty basin
Chelsea are subbing on Gallagher
short flame
Chelsea are subbing on Gallagher
Rip Chelsea
hasty basin
There’s Mina
He should just transfer
short flame
One man team?
hasty basin
Fullback FC
short flame
He should just transfer
No one will want him
hasty basin
Sadge
hasty basin
That goal vs England tho....
short flame
You actually do need a class manager like Jose for that
Yeah, our manager is really good but on this occasion he dropped the ball
short flame
That goal vs England tho....
Should just play as a striker to be honest. Bring him on late 70+ if you’re losing for corners and free kicks
That’s all he’s really good for
hasty basin
Yeah man he's good just injury prone
short flame
But honestly his best skills are his headers
Teams should try him up front, he could do a lot more
robust grotto
robust grotto
hasty basin
You're vs Villa
Anyway
You should be fine
Is Havertz high or something
He looks so weird this match
robust grotto
Goal in the Leeds game …
Please Brighton please Brighton please
Oh thank god. What an ugly goal lol
short flame
Please Brighton please Brighton please
Nice
short flame
Ademola Lookman benched
Oh I had that guy at tranmere
robust grotto
Own goal too
short flame
Useless player, had to use academy strikers instead of him
hasty basin
Useless player, had to use academy strikers instead of him
He's been insane
Atleast his form was
short flame
He's been insane
Why couldn’t he do it in fourth division
hasty basin
Idk
short flame
He was my big signing on my first season
Well him and a 50 year old who actually showed up
I forgot Sinisterra was at Leeds. That’s problematic, i can’t allow them to go down either
I’m going to have to drop Leicester and Forrest
hasty basin
I don't really remember Ademola Lookman in the past
So maybe he just got better in a season or two
short flame
He was just a way better player than the rest of the team by like 20 ratings but he was crap to play
hasty basin
Gallagher made a goal line save
dim ledge
Had a feeling we'd lose fyi I don't feel any way lol
But why did we have to get scored on by bing qi ling
hasty basin
Tbf he's like our 2nd goalscorer lol
I didnt feel like we'd win today
I'd given up on that hope of beating a top 6 team
Ward what a save again
smoky fable
short flame
But why did we have to get scored on by bing qi ling
I actually went and searched for bing qi ling thinking it would be some Korean player or something. Why is it John Cena eating an ice cream
dim ledge
smoky fable
I actually went and searched for bing qi ling thinking it would be some Korean p...
……. An answer I didn’t expect today
short flame
I didnt feel like we'd win today
You have the best player in the league, don’t be negative
short flame
……. An answer I didn’t expect today
smoky fable
…..
hasty basin
Leeds 2-2
robust grotto
NO
smoky fable
NO NO NO NO
????
hasty basin
Brighton actually need this lmao
smoky fable
Ah
short flame
NO NO NO NO
Don’t worry all according to plan
robust grotto
We’re the only team in the entire England 92 that hasn’t scored in the first 15 minutes
short flame
Nah bro you guys give WH too much credit
I respect moisy
robust grotto
Respect 🫡
short flame
smoky fable
Nah bro you guys give WH too much credit
At least West Ham will make some changes after this season….. I think
smoky fable
It was a lot
hasty basin
Bournemouth 100% will
smoky fable
And they were smart to take it
hasty basin
And I'm glad bc of that
hasty basin
It doesn't matter if we go down or not
We'll still make changes
I just wanna see us in the PL stil so
Kovacic goal Mudryk assist
robust grotto
At least West Ham will make some changes after this season….. I think
I believe the owner is selling
Good point though. They will have changes
Bruh @smoky fable
That’s criminal. Why even have that job
versed forge
smoky fable
That’s criminal. Why even have that job
Robot umps
short flame
@dim ledge
dim kettle
sweet tree
lmfao
dim ledge
<@216582410756685824>
Good
sweet tree
everton and bournemouth getting wins today huh
versed forge
short flame
Are you allowed to do that?
hasty basin
Hmm have Napoli lost their touch?
celest zephyr
Are you allowed to do that?
I haven’t heard any rule saying he can’t
Just put their wr as stroud cj
smoky fable
celest zephyr
Funny but they would have sold the second overall pick for about that much
hasty basin
Wait Gollini is playing
short flame
I haven’t heard any rule saying he can’t
This should be a thing then. No one will expect it
versed forge
Are you allowed to do that?
Yep
rustic ore
https://mobile.twitter.com/Vikings/status/1634604808320557056
Remember him walking out without sleeves on and in only a polo in negative temperature before that Vikings and Seahawks playoff game years ago, RIP to an OG
versed forge
When do nhl playoffs start
versed forge
Awesome I’ll definitely tune into the playoffs for sure
robust grotto
Hell yeah
I think nba is only a week or two ahead of the nhl
Or maybe vice versa - but either way it’s fun when both first rounds are going
celest zephyr
Oilers going to somehow have mcdavid drai and Matthews yet not be able to win a ring
celest zephyr
I think nba is only a week or two ahead of the nhl
Nba April 15 Nhl April 17
Last game nba April 9
Nba play-in April 11-14