I think all of those QBs u listed are fine for majority of their teams
#sports
honest umbra
rustic ore
Was SF’s tank year 2018 cause Jimmy got hurt early?
honest umbra
Just mahomes and rodgers are like on another elite level
celest zephyr
I member that lol
honest umbra
Whatever year they had 2 wins lol
celest zephyr
Beating you guys with Nick Mullins
rustic ore
I think that was the game AD got ejected for throwing a player down from behind in a scrum
honest umbra
Speaking of, I hope he wasn’t injured and just taking the last few weeks off because we wasn’t going anywhere
dim kettle
You wanna know how stupid this concept is. The Texans tried benching Watson behind Tom Savage before Bill O'Brien changed QBs quickly into week 1. So when fucking BoB even knows how stupid it is, that should be the standard.
honest umbra
Isn’t bob on a team again
rustic ore
I think that was the game AD got ejected for throwing a player down from behind ...
No wait, that happened during the Chip Kelly year https://youtu.be/bOOxSqWe7ro
Rams got cooked by Blaine Gabbert
robust grotto
honest umbra
I haven’t seen those jerseys in a while
dim kettle
Just mahomes and rodgers are like on another elite level
Russ has a SB, Joe Flacco was a SB MVP, Cam and Ryan were in SBs themselves. You literally could've argued Mahomes could've been good in 2017.
honest umbra
U reckon?
dim ledge
Thats what im telling myself at least
rustic ore
Twitter
rustic ore
dim ledge
Lance? yes
honest umbra
Purdy is out for 6 months right
dim kettle
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1620836840067727360
Hooray for games that are only exciting for the first 5 minutes. 
honest umbra
Not a big fan of that
dim kettle
honest umbra
I wonder if Brady will wear a Bucs hat into his NFL HOF
dim kettle
I wish it was half and half.
honest umbra
I wish it was half and half.
What about 6/7th?
dim kettle
Should've been the same with Peyton. He's basically a known icon in both Indy and Denver.
honest umbra
What did Peyton do?
dim kettle
Help both teams be relevant and win championships.
celest zephyr
🫡
Seems possible
I have faith he can at least be Jimmy g level
And for a guy hein g paid that little I’ll take it
honest umbra
No what team did he go with
celest zephyr
Beat guess is like a Daniel jones case where they don’t take his option and just roll with him for jamother year
I just went to the eye doctor I legit can’t see lol
Sorry man
Dilated my pupils
Cn barely type
dim kettle
No what team did he go with
I actually think he chose both
short flame
Tage can’t be first star of the week. No one other than Tage made the all stars
But this guy is rookie of the month
They’re taking the piss
robust grotto
dim kettle
Lack of rivalries. As if a sport like the NBA actually have any interesting rivalries in the regular season and yet get better ratings. The two major things going against the NHL rn is poor marketing of their stars and just a transition overall with players like Ovi and Crosby coming closer to the end of their career.
We're really seeing this transition in the west. Because the west just sucks this year.
If you put Buffalo, (the 4th best team in the Atlantic) into the the western conference rn. They're in a wild card spot.
celest zephyr
Lack of rivalries. As if a sport like the NBA actually have any interesting riva...
Bruh the nba has as much or even less actual trades
The cap is a mess also
The nba has no storylines
Nba playoff format is better I’d say though
rustic mountain
Nba playoff format is cool
But I can tell you as a mostly casual watcher with rooting interest in the raptors, the NBA is so individual focused
It makes me not interested
glass compass
FACTS
celest zephyr
Yeah for sure
glass compass
All the NBA storylines are player-based and team interests don't exist
celest zephyr
Also because the raptors are the complete opposite of a team LOL
glass compass
All the NBA storylines are player-based and team interests don't exist
For new fans that is
celest zephyr
No team chemistry
dim kettle
Format is better because it’s much more simpler to follow compared to the NHL. But I wouldn’t say that’s a reason for ratings going down. It’s always gonna come down to the NHL not promoting their stars and the product
celest zephyr
Bunch of good players
Yeah the nhl has piss poor marketing
Look at how big profile nba and nfl players are
Facts the nba has no real storylines
It’s better now with more teams with actual talent
dim kettle
Here in Tampa, they promote the Bolts like crazy. Everyone knows who’s Stammer, Kuch, and Vasy is.
glass compass
It shows because I NEVER had interest in the NHL despite having free tickets to my home teams games through a family friend
celest zephyr
When I first started there were maybe like 5 teams at most that could win it
Yeah same here with the leafs
Tons of ads and stuff
dim kettle
If the NHL promoted like the Lightning do, they’d have more eyes on the product
robust grotto
Such a shame bc the product is the fucking best
NHL in the golden era rn with talent
robust grotto
Nothing like going to a game too, so much fun
glass compass
The Panthers get NO ads 😭
celest zephyr
And some mcdavid ones
dim kettle
Such a shame bc the product is the fucking best
On the east at least
robust grotto
Dude nhl has a huuuuuge issue with these betting ads smh
glass compass
I don't even know who my players are
robust grotto
It’s like their only revenue
glass compass
Dude nhl has a huuuuuge issue with these betting ads smh
That's the only thing I get
robust grotto
It’s so annoying bro
short flame
Everything they can so that we continue being the funni side
robust grotto
Get reminded 18 times a game that I could be betting on it! Wow!!!
celest zephyr
And on the rink also
short flame
If you put Buffalo, (the 4th best team in the Atlantic) into the the western con...
We’re close to the wild cards
glass compass
"Please gamble responsibly"
celest zephyr
Fuck the nhl with rotating ads also
It’s so bad
Legit an eye sore to see the ads changing
robust grotto
Fuck the nhl with rotating ads also
Doesn’t bother me but I’m used it to from soccer
dim kettle
NHL and MLB can’t seem to get that they need to make the sport and players feel more important
celest zephyr
Oh yeah I saw it in soccer
short flame
Dude nhl has a huuuuuge issue with these betting ads smh
My football team in Cali is sponsored by a betting company
celest zephyr
I don’t mind it as much since it’s a way bigger surface area
short flame
I find that so unhealthy
celest zephyr
But the boards on the nhl are pretty small in comparison
robust grotto
The one thing about hockey is that 90% of the players reaaaally could care less about the marketing
celest zephyr
And like the ads at least at the World Cup had way better animations
The nhl ones are super static and boring
And transition horribly
Like it doesn’t even use the format to its advantage
robust grotto
So then everyone naturally makes fun of the fact that the best players are as basic as a guy in a coffee shop. They don’t care
short flame
Why are the adds during the sabres games about the bills. I get that they’re from the city but it’s another sport
dim kettle
The one thing about hockey is that 90% of the players reaaaally could care less ...
Because they built a culture around that. They’re a brand to the sport and league they play in.
celest zephyr
I mean tbh I don’t think that many nba players care either
robust grotto
Why are the adds during the sabres games about the bills. I get that they’re fro...
Same owner owns both
celest zephyr
Like a bunch of top end players do ads
But I don’t see many players outside of that
short flame
Who really cares about the adds
robust grotto
Because they built a culture around that. They’re a brand to the sport and leagu...
You mean being forced to wear suits for every game since you’re 12 impacts you mentally?!
Truth though
short flame
Never in my life have I seen a fly emirates on a shirt and thought let me go buy a ticket
dim kettle
We’ve seen in the all star games just how much personality these young guys have
celest zephyr
You mean being forced to wear suits for every game since you’re 12 impacts you m...
Can’t possibly be being rammed into a wall every game
Or hit in the hemlet
short flame
Each time I see a company that has sponsors in a sports team I just stay away
dim kettle
Trevor Zegras should be a name the NHL is promoting
celest zephyr
Nhl just feels archaic
short flame
Except Burger King
rustic ore
What did Peyton do?
Payton went to Denver, just like Peyton did 
celest zephyr
It’s awful
dim kettle
Honestly can’t wait for the next commissioner of both the NHL and MLB. Because both need leaders who know how to grow the leagues instead of keeping them in echo chambers
robust grotto
It’s time 100%, time to move on already
celest zephyr
The nba really grew also because stern expanded it a lot
short flame
Yeah he makes fun of Buffalo
celest zephyr
Along with actual rivalries with bird vs magic and then Jordan
short flame
And doesn’t want to give a team to Quebec City
robust grotto
but I’ll give Bettman props for his expansions. Whilst the Coyotes situation is a major black hole… Winnipeg, Vegas, and Seattle getting teams is a W
short flame
Seattle is a big L
robust grotto
disagree I think Seattle rules
celest zephyr
Wow the coyotes can sell an arena that has like 15k peole
robust grotto
Perfect place for a team
short flame
I don’t get which marketing team made that team
robust grotto
Them being the first sports team in Vegas was a huge W
celest zephyr
Lol most good teams can sell 10s of thousands of tickets
short flame
There’s 0 effort
celest zephyr
For a good regular season game
dim kettle
The only real W Bettman has besides the expansions is being able to beat the NHL players twice in the lockouts
I should say, capitalized on the NHL PA shooting themselves in the foot twice
hasty basin
dawn tapir
Which team does Jimmy G go to?
hasty basin
Cancelo really can't escape this formation 
This Cremonese manager did something crazy to Cremonese
3 games in and all like decent results
Prior do this they were one of the worst teams in the top 5 leagues
sweet tree
frenkie stinks
short flame
Cancelo really can't escape this formation <:KataOmegaLUL:638864734623498274>
No phonzie?
short flame
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7j--YMXZtA&ab_channel=PizzaMusic
Is this the French equivalent of 3 lions?
short flame
Cup game so Pavard starts
hasty basin
Is this the French equivalent of 3 lions?
The thing they sang at the world cup
Yes
Still a great song even after they lost
Twitter
Will Still too good
short flame
The thing they sang at the world cup
Yeah so like 3 lions
short flame
hasty basin
short flame
https://twitter.com/squawka/status/1620875930657820688?s=46&t=7njuDi08JDpK2sObNh...
He’s living the dream
short flame
You play?
dim kettle
hasty basin
Is it fun for beginners?
You'll get overwhelmed at first but
Don't worry
There are a lot of things that don't need attention
There's like thousands of things you can do
But you don't use half of them all game
Fuck now this Allez les blues allez song is stuck in my head
hasty basin
What about https://twitter.com/psgsociety/status/995449249495175168?s=46&t=A3ngg...
Europa league GOAT
Cremonese 2-0
They are fucking cooking Roma
sweet tree
raph is having a stinker
burnt cedar
You'll get overwhelmed at first but
This is what happens when you end up getting addicted https://twitter.com/footyaccums/status/1620031949715738625?s=46&t=A3nggJPtotyHsaoJl9H-oQ
hasty basin
This is what happens when you end up getting addicted https://twitter.com/footya...
Fr
sweet tree
you saw the balogun stats ajay?
burnt cedar
22k is a crazy fine
hasty basin
Balogun is a beast
burnt cedar
you saw the balogun stats ajay?
Yeah
hasty basin
Yeah
burnt cedar
He’s better than nketiah tbh
hasty basin
Prob did more in Ligue 1
burnt cedar
Who’s also good too
hasty basin
Than he ever did in Arsenal
hasty basin
Who’s also good too
Eddie Eddie
hasty basin
Chelsea 80M bid
short flame
This is what happens when you end up getting addicted https://twitter.com/footya...
They say they’re willing to invest in his future
short flame
But you don't use half of them all game <:KataOmegaLUL:638864734623498274>
Ok thanks
burnt cedar
I’m surprised they didn’t sign a striker
hasty basin
Yeah
burnt cedar
After spending 600 billion
hasty basin
They're stacking midfielders
short flame
They’re morons
short flame
Why do they need 50 wingers
burnt cedar
Why do they need 50 wingers
Why not - Todd Boehly
burnt cedar
Could be tbh
hasty basin
Fax
He probably goes and sees some
Ligue 1 guy score
Like once
He looks at his age
ARound 20ish
And he goes like why not
burnt cedar
One of his commitments as Chelsea owner was to reinvest 500m over 10 years
He’s done it all at once
He might never make a signing again
hasty basin
Me still trying to find out why United loaned Butland
hasty basin
Lewa 6.2
hasty basin
Phonzy subbed on a nd goal
short flame
Phonzy subbed on a nd goal
See he should be a starter
short flame
Me still trying to find out why United loaned Butland
Don’t they already have a backup?
hasty basin
He is
hasty basin
Don’t they already have a backup?
They play Heaton
When DDG doesn't play
But apparently Ten Hag
Wants 3 gks
short flame
Why?
short flame
They play Heaton
So as bad as butland
sweet tree
I should've bought this gold kit mannn
short flame
That’s a th problem
hasty basin
That’s a th problem
The only thing
I can think of is
He's trying to be extra careful
With GK injuries
But if he has 2 bad backups that's not really great
Fred 2-0
short flame
But usually the third goalkeeper is in the youth squad
hasty basin
But usually the third goalkeeper is in the youth squad
Yeah
Well tbf
We have Neto Randolph and Travers
short flame
When did he start scoring
hasty basin
Idk
sweet tree
Lewa 2-0
hasty basin
Nice
sweet tree
araujo assist
sweet tree
14 in 16 in la liga, he's been great
let me get a pedri goal 
kounde own goal.... bruh
that's unfortunate
hasty basin
Kounde giving them a chance
short flame
https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1620810038171295744
Wtf disgusting guy
celest zephyr
https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1620810038171295744
What
rustic mountain
Dude played for 3 seasons in a Bucs uniform and now he is just known as a Bucs qb I swear
dim kettle
Peyton played for 4 seasons in a Broncos uni and is known as a Broncos QB
rustic mountain
Yes but Peyton's career was also drastically shorter in Indy
Tom played in new england for 20 years
dim kettle
He’s gonna be known for both teams when he’s in the HOF though
rustic mountain
And that disgusts me tbh
It's like a step father passing away and the step kids he raised for like a year means as much as his flesh and blood he raised for 18
dim kettle
He won a SB in Tampa. It can’t be helped. That’s what makes the difference between Brady in a Bucs uniform and someone like Johnny Unitas randomly in a Chargers uni for a year
rustic mountain
I understand
Just dislike it
And tbh Tom is the biggest problem with ut
It
He treats New England like a toy he forgot
dim kettle
Honestly does feel like that too with Peyton. Funny how both QBs always find ways to run into each other. lol
rustic mountain
They are a bit interlinked
robust grotto
Why not both
rustic ore
I feel the same way now as I did last year when he had his temp retirement
Sad but grateful he even decided to come here
Forever will be a part, however small, of the legacy of the GOAT football player
He let me see my team win a Super Bowl for the first time in my adult life
I don’t have the words to express how happy that made me feel
celest zephyr
And the greatest winner in the superbowl era
rustic ore
Indeed
robust grotto
It’s cool af man, I get it
celest zephyr
Yeah totally
robust grotto
Gretzky being a Ranger was awesome
celest zephyr
Felt the same way when the raptors won
Wait what
Closest thing for me was Hakeem being a raptor
robust grotto
Yes sir I saw him once luckily enough
robust grotto
Yeah it was awesome. My first rangers game, was them and Buffalo
celest zephyr
Got any pictures of Crosby mcdavid or ovi?
robust grotto
Nah but I’ve seen all - McDavid like 3 times and Ovi a fuck ton
Ovi is my favorite player to watch warm up
rustic ore
I too got to see Brady play live once, happened to be the game Drew Brees and NO beat the hell out of us on MNF but I saw it all the same
celest zephyr
Legit jealous
robust grotto
It’s unreal how fast his shot is and it’s SO effortless
short flame
Yeah it was awesome. My first rangers game, was them and Buffalo
Am I being called?
robust grotto
And he skates without a helmet swagged af. Rips pucks like nothing and the hit the boards making the hardest thud.. ripples around the building. He’s awesome
celest zephyr
Sixth sense for when it happens
robust grotto
SANJUAN yeah bro I have to find it but
celest zephyr
Man I wish I got to see wa4mups
short flame
Buffalo & kraken = sanjuan alert
I get the alert
celest zephyr
Seeing Mathew rip off one timers would have been epic
short flame
That and Burger King talk
celest zephyr
Oh god please no
robust grotto
I actually use to have this like Sabres puffy coat as a kid. When they were black and red
robust grotto
Something like this
celest zephyr
That’s dope
robust grotto
Also I’m sorry fam
robust grotto
You’ll go to more games though, you’ll have a chance
Dude Matthews was fun too. He wastes zero energy lmfao
robust grotto
He just laps around the ice… waits for players to feed him soft pass and he blasts it
True, that ended up being a good game
celest zephyr
It was fun
robust grotto
I keep saying it but NYR TOR series would be fun
robust grotto
Nope bc the nhl insists on this awful playoff format
celest zephyr
Plus seeing kawhi hit a crazy shot as a raptor was cool
robust grotto
And you’re doomed to play one of Tampa or Boston each year. Yay
short flame
I keep saying it but NYR TOR series would be fun
NYR SABRES
dim kettle
I don’t have the words to express how happy that made me feel
I'm kinda like Brady in his retirement vid. You only get one emotional essay and I used up mine last year. He made having to see the Bucs be shit in my teenage years all worth it. Can't thank him enough to finally see a title in my life time.
celest zephyr
When your reward for the best regular season in franchise history is to face another top 5 team
Pain
robust grotto
buffaslug era was something else
short flame
When was that
prime era of the nhl
short flame
I only know lol buffalo
you know the best buffalo
robust grotto
They were literally the best team in the league and looking like this
short flame
They were literally the best team in the league and looking like this
is that ryan?
celest zephyr
I’d buy it
robust grotto
Yeah dude
short flame
legend
robust grotto
You guys won the presidents trophy that year
short flame
best keeper of all time
robust grotto
Most points in the league
dim kettle
Sabres really had an identity crisis in the 90s early 2000s.
celest zephyr
The pain in that laugh
robust grotto
Throwing it back looking at these rosters
short flame
Sabres really had an identity crisis in the 90s early 2000s.
we still do
there's so much talk every time about blue and gold vs the black and red
celest zephyr
Why not all four
smoky fable
https://youtu.be/qNCuZ4AmM8w
Arizona is going to be busy
Just hope it doesn’t rain heavily like the one that happened 9 years ago in 2014
celest zephyr
What
robust grotto
I’m unironically going to watch week 1 of XFL
and if it’s fun.. I’ll prob watch the whole season lol
haughty moss
AFL in them early days was fye
dim kettle
Twitter
rustic ore
I’m unironically going to watch week 1 of XFL
Same
Like why not? You can get a basketball or hockey game almost any night, football is a once a week thing
Plus the 6 months before the next NFL season kicks are feel so long
robust grotto
Same
Hell yeah!! I remember you mentioning you would watch too lol
Right now I’m leaning on cheering for the Brahmas
dim kettle
My brain always focuses towards baseball and NASCAR after the SB. So I couldn't care less about the USFL or XFL.
robust grotto
I really liked that PJ Walker ended up being a success story, even if he’s mid at best w Carolina
And I really like that the XFL is going to be how they test rules and ideas before too so idk, hopefully the product is good
dim kettle
Also the last time I tried committing to another league they went under before the playoffs. RIP my Birmingham Iron.
robust grotto
And maybe there will be more Walkers that end up on nfl teams and I’ll be like OH YEAH I remember him on the Vegas Vipers
RIP Birmingham Iron
rustic ore
I'm sad they moved the Tampa Vipers to Vegas, guess I'll back the Orlando Guardians now
dim kettle
If I did watch the XFL, I'd pick St Louis just to spite Stan Kroenke.
robust grotto
I'm sad they moved the Tampa Vipers to Vegas, guess I'll back the Orlando Guardi...
You see I can’t pick them bc you took the guardians from us
celest zephyr
Welp I’ll just watch the nba and nhl
robust grotto
Brahma gang 🫡
celest zephyr
Screw Marchand
robust grotto
He’s the worst lol
dim kettle
Canes already having their way with the Sabres
robust grotto
Jeff Skinner do something
dim kettle
3-0 Canes
celest zephyr
Ltir is weird
One of the strangest things for me about the nhl
Along with cap hit being prorated
I get it but also no other league that I know of does it
dim kettle
Always remember though.
A southern team using the LTIR - Evil, cheating, they don't shouldn't be allowed to do this.
A classic northern team using the LTIR - There's nothing to see here, the dude just happened to get injured and recover before the playoffs.
celest zephyr
Nah I laugh at it regardless
Leafs using a shit ton of ltir and still losing is just omega lol
dim kettle
Don't tell r/hockey that. lol
There's a reason the Bolts reddit page have their own GDT thread now. That 2021 playoffs brought the worst out of hockey fans. They literally thought the Bolts were like Teach or Akainu.
dim kettle
76 million dollar payroll to win 27 games. 
dim kettle
Which as of rn I think it's the best move. You need to build around him.
At least give him this last year to show he's the guy and if the Bears believe in him, they actually have to prioritize helping him.
smoky fable
At least give him this last year to show he's the guy and if the Bears believe i...
Trading a high second for clay pool was a mistake
rustic ore
https://mobile.twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1620799381979922433?ref_src=tws...
Bigs ups on them saying this outright
Their overall roster is shit, didn't make any sense to even entertain the thought of trading Fields after 1 year with this regime on such a bad team when he was head and shoulders the best player for them
dim kettle
I swear to god if the Bears pick a defensive lineman instead of an offensive lineman.
rustic ore
Get a king's ransom from a QB needy team, and start the rebuild properly
dim kettle
If the Bears are smart, they'll use all that free space in their cap to patch up the defense a bit and prioritize on the offensive side of the ball in the draft.
smoky fable
Get a king's ransom from a QB needy team, and start the rebuild properly
Colts
Panthers
Bidding war time
dim kettle
All for QBs that may or not be it. IMO
rustic ore
That's the gamble the teams trading for it will have to make
I mean every draft pick is a gamble
dim kettle
Honestly, I look at a Bryce Young and really the best thing going for him IMO is his ability to extend plays.
Then you have CJ Stroud which, as someone who watched all his games I still don't know how much that offense clicked because of him or the talent around him.
rustic ore
Honestly that loss to Georgia might be the best game of Stroud's career imo
He torched arguably the best D in CFB even after his best weapon went out early, and if not for a missed FG OSU would've been the ones murdering TCU on national TV
dim kettle
We'll find out when he's put onto a crappy team.
But I think that's something to consider with basically any Ohio State QB coming into the draft.
Will say though, whoever picks Anthony Richardson might have the best QB in the draft if they can develop him.
rustic ore
Big if though cause dude is raw as a mofo
dim kettle
That's why I said if they can develop him.
rustic ore
Young though so he has time, he's gonna be 22 entering his rookie year
haughty moss
He torched arguably the best D in CFB even after his best weapon went out early,...
talk 🗣️🗣️
dim kettle
Which means the Bucs are gonna end up with Richardson, aren't they?
short flame
55 year old Kazuyoshi miura (king kazu) has just signed for Oliveirense. What an absolute legend still playing at a competitive level at his age
rustic ore
~~Which means the Bucs are gonna end up with Richardson, aren't they?~~
Hell if we get Monken I might not honestly be upset
dim kettle
I wonder who the hell wants to come here now with Brady gone. Although I think most knew he wasn't gonna be here regardless.
rustic mountain
That and your cap situation and all the free agents
Tampa truly is in a time of rebuild man
rustic ore
Lucky for us we have a lameduck HC and might possibly get Monken to be the sensible choice to turn the keys over to in 2024, hopefully just in time to get a rookie QB from that nice looking 2024 QB class 👀 👀 👀
rustic ore
55 year old Kazuyoshi miura (king kazu) has just signed for Oliveirense. What an...
55?! 
Asian truly does not raisin
(That's meant playfully to say he's aged like fine wine for anyone feeling funny 
)
dim kettle
Tampa truly is in a time of rebuild man
short flame
**55**?! <:BuggySweat:704463253819883611> <:BuggySweat:704463253819883611> <:Bug...
He’s an absolute legend
short flame
(That's meant playfully to say he's aged like fine wine for anyone feeling funny...
!funni
azure sealBOT
short flame
And 4-1. Anyone is in need for a keeper. We’re giving ukko pekka for free
dim kettle
One thing to think about is Mike Evans is on his final year of his contract. Might be time to walk away from him. I just hope he doesn't have to wear a disgusting jersey like a Saints or Bears uni
rustic mountain
https://twitter.com/AroundTheNFL/status/1615347632658083842?s=20&t=1AGPxfNCL_BQ_...
reload
Kyle Trask is your starting qb
Okay Todd
rustic ore
https://twitter.com/AroundTheNFL/status/1615347632658083842?s=20&t=1AGPxfNCL_BQ_...
Only thing he's gonna be reloading is the gun that killed his HC job in NY
rustic mountain
Dude shouldn't be a HC
rustic ore
Indeed
rustic mountain
Plain and simple
rustic ore
He's a good DC, that's it
dim kettle
He get's more one year and if he does a shit job again, get out.
haughty moss
How about signing a 55 year old. Top tier rebuild
rustic mountain
There are some dudes who just can't be the top dog
rustic ore
That's a painful reality some people have to face but there's no shame in topping off as a coordinator
Yup
dim kettle
I think if Todd Monken comes back to Tampa he's gonna love Rachaad White.
rustic ore
Buddy Ryan and Dick LeBeau are 2 of the greatest DCs in NFL history, does anyone except the fans of the teams they HC'd for really care that they were shit HCs?
I don't
Doesn't take away any of the respect I have for them as coaches
rustic ore
Indeed
So much micromanaging you're for to do
You're literally responsible for everything
Some guys just aren't built for it, and there's no shame in that
dim kettle
Bowles would've worked as a HC if it was the early 2000s where defense alone could still win you many games.
rustic ore
Great coaches do not come around often
dim kettle
The only thing is I'm just glad he got another chance at the job because whatever you can say about him as a coach, he was screwed in NY.
rustic ore
Yup
This time his failure was completely and utterly on him
You had a loaded roster and shat the bed
Can't say he got shafted this time, just pure incompetence from an HC
dim kettle
The biggest thing for me was the clear lack of accountability from him. There was apparent drama within the coaching staff on the offensive side of the ball and he did nothing to give a clear message to them and the players.
Like, you can look at the game after he said "We need to run the ball more" And Leftwich just did the bare minimum to get the run plays to a quota. Which tells me there was some kind of disrespect from Lefftwich to his boss basically. Which, that's a great sign of a great leader, right?
smoky fable
Lucky for us we have a lameduck HC and might possibly get Monken to be the sensi...
Rebuild year
Should sell off pieces
short flame
Rebuild year
We’re also going to need another rebuild decade
rustic mountain
@rustic ore @dim kettle @haughty moss
rustic ore
Twitter
dim kettle
The silver (and black) lining to today is the Raiders hopes of getting Brady died. Time to get back to the drawing board.
I heard Jameis Winston is available.
rustic ore
I think he's still under contract with NO for cheap for another year
modest totem
Wow I'm late but holy shit Tom Brady didn't even go out on top.. like Peyton did
😌💙🧡
short flame
In which league?
sweet tree
In which league?
NBA
hasty basin
https://twitter.com/eurofootcom/status/1621118867291373568?t=xbCo0htujrXtjK8V6l1...
Damn
celest zephyr
Adam silver going to dress up like an anime girl next nba draft
robust grotto
celest zephyr
I still think it’s absolutely stupid that each team gets at least one player
Not that Tage and Rasmus haven’t been good this season
But like some ass team with no talent like the coyotes still gets someone
When there are far better people in the division who deserve it over them
If it’s divisons then I want to see the best players from that division
I don’t want to see jobbers at the all star game
robust grotto
I still think it’s absolutely stupid that each team gets at least one player
This and fan voting just ruin it
But… it’s for kids
It’s not for me, it’s not for the players
celest zephyr
I don’t like thr nba all star game either but it is also 50% fan vote
Yet still has pretty consistently some of thr best players on it
Tbh I think fan voting is just way too limited for thr nhl
hasty basin
my guy just wants to chill in the summer, I get it
Tbf France don't really need him
Got so many young CBs
celest zephyr
Thr nba has way less players getting meaningful minutes so choosing like 5 per conference is fine
But the nhl has so many impactful players that choosing like 6 per division is hard
Especially with the limits on it
robust grotto
But the nhl has so many impactful players that choosing like 6 per division is h...
Good point. 3v3 is also shit for that reason
short flame
https://twitter.com/pr_nhl/status/1621154761084137472?s=46&t=X1ZWPlLCVyRgVcFXdbr...
Both should have been there
With Jeff Dylan and Alex
short flame
Tbf France don't really need him
He was their best player in 2018, has been going downhill since
short flame
But like some ass team with no talent like the coyotes still gets someone
Or nick Suzuki
robust grotto
ASG is broken
hasty basin
He was their best player in 2018, has been going downhill since
Lived off Ramos in RMA for a while
Twitter
Well then
My FPL is fucked
chrome mantle
Ramos goated defender fr
celest zephyr
Good point. 3v3 is also shit for that reason
Always laugh internally seeing it
They do come up with more fun shit than the nba though
So props for that
Nba is boring
robust grotto
#1 pick in the NFL last year had a $6.8mil salary.
#1 pick in NBA draft last year has an $11mil salary this season
#1 pick in MLB draft gets a roughly $8-9mil signing bonus.
Bedard (an otherworldly generational talent) will make ~900k base salary over the next 3 seasons
celest zephyr
Nhl Elcs are the best contracts in the game
Part of the reason why teams cycle through so much young talent
short flame
Lived off Ramos in RMA for a while
I think it was a perfect partnership. That year he won the World Cup and champions he was amazing
celest zephyr
Tbf though if you get someone like Zion with the first overall pick it’s also a steal
Like to get w guy that’s worth about max money for 10ish mill a year
Rookie contracts are just amazing all around
Plus nhl also has. A super low salary cap
hasty basin
I think it was a perfect partnership. That year he won the World Cup and champio...
I can agree with you on that but when I still used to watch RMA games regularly it was apparent that if any other like good defender was with Ramos they would do well
Pepe tbf
celest zephyr
Especially relative to the amount of players there are
short flame
Pepe was better in his prime
celest zephyr
Like a nhl team can have 50 contracts which is about thr same as a nfl action d roster
The nhl is also weird in that almost every single active roster player is either playing or is on quick call up
dim kettle
NHL players really do get underpaid. But at the same time, you can't really feel bad for them when the players got themselves into this mess. They had 2 chances during the lockout periods to fix this and they failed both of them.
celest zephyr
yeah the players unions for the nba and nfl are way stronger
especially the nba
has the league by the balls
the mlb with the current negotiations seemed to at least show some guts
and make actual demands
dim kettle
Honestly, the way the lockout ended last year just feels like worse things are around the corner.
dim kettle
But those NHL lockouts from 04-05 and 2012-13 got two PA directors fired. Like, they're pushovers.
celest zephyr
yeah they are soft
just bent over for the leaguew
and then there's bettman there who should be canned
for stiffling the league
damn shame having this much talent and barely any buzz about it
serene fractal
Nba is boring
Yikes
celest zephyr
oh yeah theplayoffs are fun
serene fractal
Even regular season is fun if u watching a team or player u like
celest zephyr
i just meant the all star games
dim kettle
The NHL has shown through the all star games the last few years that their young players have personalities they just won't showcase them and promote for the stupidest of reasons
dim kettle
More people should know who Trevor Zegras is.
celest zephyr
not just that any promos they have done have shown that they have personalities
or cale makar or matthews or mcdavid
or kaprizov
dim kettle
The NHL and MLB are just trapped in echo chambers and that's reflection on leadership.
rustic mountain
dim kettle
At least some people know who McDavid is. Just like some people know who Mike Trout is. But they're not at the level of pop culture relevance like Mahomes or Giannis
dim kettle
Screw that. Go Jaguar fan.
robust grotto
Simply put … the NHL and MLB need to get more non white people to be engaged
Both leagues are super multicultural and it’s so fucking cool. They have to find a way to capture the attention of non fans
dim kettle
Simply put … the NHL and MLB need to get more non white people to be engaged
The NHL yeah. the MLB need more younger fans.
robust grotto
MLB too, any time you hear from the black star players they say the same things. Black kids aren’t interested
It’s all NBA and NFL
dim kettle
And that's kinda the reason though. Younger people think baseball is old and boring.
robust grotto
ESPN has a part in this too. They have the tools to help but bc they don’t get views and interactions.. they don’t really go out of their way to have more conversations for either sports
Media has to help make these cooler
But there’s no money in it so they won’t lol. People will watch the Smith debates about lebron so they’ll stick with it, naturally
dim kettle
That's also on leadership of both sports. They have contracts with ESPN, etc. Fucking tell them to talk about your product.
robust grotto
For sure. Thinking it from the media side; Why should ESPN talk more about those products? They have their own little 30 minute segments that they get paid by the leagues to do …. And absolutely no one tunes into,
dim kettle
I hate it too. Because baseball for many decades was the number one sport in america till the 94 strike.
robust grotto
You’re right about both leagues not helping tho, I’m not disagreeing
Yeah it’s awful bro. Golden age of hockey talent and zero recognition
short flame
And that's kinda the reason though. Younger people think baseball is old and bor...
I’ve watched baseball and it is in fact boring. But I agree that there should be better campaigns to bring people in. A lot of the media right now is not up to standard
dim kettle
I think my problem is leadership in both leagues don't want to get bigger than they already are. ESPN only hire people in these big talk shows that only know football and basketball. And that's because those leagues want to be bigger than life.
rustic mountain
Screw that. Go Jaguar fan.
Shadow they cant do that, they need super bowl contenders, hence why I dont know why the Bills are mentioned 
dim kettle
T-Law the future of the league, baby!
rustic mountain
Patriots signing Tommy boy to a 1 day contract
I mean they should
I think Manning did with the Colts
dim kettle
The latest NHL ratings being down is the reflection of the lack of real star power outside the sport itself. It's like wrestling these days. The matches objectively are some of the best they sport has had in ring work. But nobody cares because there just isn't that draw that brings the casual in.
dim kettle
I think Brady will do it.
rustic mountain
I think so too
When you guys played us he was a little emotional about the place
So I cant see him saying nah fuck you
dim kettle
If Peyton did it with Indy, Brady will do it. Honestly does amaze me he recognizes Indy at all with the way they treated him during his last few years.
dim ledge
Why would Manning do so w the Colts?
Didnt nearly all of his success come with Denver?
short flame
If he goes and plays a game and the team goes on to win the superbowl does he get a medal?
dim kettle
He won a SB with Indy and multiple MVPs with them
dim kettle
Just saying though, Peyton got the neck surgery in 2011 and then the Colts basically told him to fuck off the year after.
Just a bitter reminder that Peyton's last game in a Colts uni was a heartbreaking loss to the Jets in the playoffs
smoky fable
Just saying though, Peyton got the neck surgery in 2011 and then the Colts basic...
Irsay seems like a consistently poor owner
hasty mesa
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10063900-robert-kraft-we-will-do-everything-...
This is why I don’t believe in Brady retirement
Will he reallyyyy pass that up
celest zephyr
But there’s no money in it so they won’t lol. People will watch the Smith debate...
But Jordan better than Bron?????
Jordan 6-0 in finals Bron 4-6
Jordan better defender and winner
More clutch
Bron passes out of the clutch what a coward
celest zephyr
Yeah it’s awful bro. Golden age of hockey talent and zero recognition
Bettman happy with selling tickets
Problem is almost everyone who buys one is already invested
The issue yeah is getting people who aren’t that interested interested
Like going to an nba or even football event feels like something bigger than just a sports game
The amount of over the top things they do to get people engaged really works
Think about how fun nfl tailgating is
Also the leafs won a great game but when I went to the raptors game the streets were electric after thr win
So many people were talking and chanting
It felt like they won something that wasn’t just a regular season game
Stuff like hockey and baseball kinda needs to sell the flair and cool stuff that happens more
Like hockey has a bunch of cool things but they don’t go far enough in promoting it
Why not idk have a Michigan challenge or best shot challenge
Or flashy save challenge
dim kettle
It's about the names that's the difference. Casuals like the names and personalities in the NBA. Hockey they're just another player.
short flame
Goaltenders doing a Michigan challenge please
celest zephyr
Yeah but the talent in the nhl is insane
So the nfl is more of a team sport
The best players literally cannot play both sides
dim kettle
I think that's the underrated thing about the Lightning is that anyone in the Tampa area knows who Stammer, Kuch, or Vasy is. And that's because they're portrayed as larger than life in this area.
smoky fable
I think that's the underrated thing about the Lightning is that anyone in the Ta...
portrayed
celest zephyr
Not to the level of Tampa
celest zephyr
But still guys like Matthews marner and nylander pop out
dim kettle
Yeah, I'm not looking at my text when typing fast lol
celest zephyr
No no vasi wants to kill John cooper after every loss
short flame
Before getting into sabres I had no idea who the best nhl payers were. That’s a big flaw from the marketing department. While I don’t know anything about about basketball I could think of big players
dim kettle
If the NHL themselves made more ads like this, they'd be in a better place.
https://youtu.be/iej_aaW4I8g
short flame
There’s not enough hype around Dylan Jeff Tage Alex and rasmus
There needs to be better campaigns
celest zephyr
For sure
Like if you watch hockey it’s amazing
Problem is not enough people care
short flame
There’s no publicity outside
celest zephyr
Yeah for sure you either know it or you pretty much don’t
robust grotto
Before getting into sabres I had no idea who the best nhl payers were. That’s a ...
But this is what I mean like I understand the leagues don’t help but WHAT ARE SPORTS MEDIA DOING TO HELP TOO
short flame
Like I live in Montreal and honestly I don’t see enough adverts for the canadiens
short flame
They’re just loud
short flame
How are you alive as a Sabres fan in Montreal?
I have protection
celest zephyr
I’d get skinned and put up on a flag post if they saw me wearing. A leafs jersey
robust grotto
I might have to go back to MTL before the season ends
short flame
I’d get skinned and put up on a flag post if they saw me wearing. A leafs jersey
Oh I don’t own any sabres jerseys yet
dim kettle
I think the sports media would care more if the leagues actually started portraying themselves and their players like larger than life.
celest zephyr
Oh that’s why lol
robust grotto
I could use some serotonin lmao
celest zephyr
I think the sports media would care more if the leagues actually started portray...
Yeah the media wants clicks
robust grotto
Word it just goes hand in hand
celest zephyr
I could use some serotonin lmao
honest umbra
https://tenor.com/view/kitty-cat-sandwich-cats-sandwich-gif-26112528
How much protein is that?
celest zephyr
What are you in china?
dim kettle
McDavid should be at the level of a Pat Mahomes and Curry. But he's just a name in a sport that has a hard time growing in the US.
celest zephyr
Same with ohtani
short flame
One of the most scary moments in life was at school it was filled by bruins fans for some reason
For some reason they were in skirts
dim kettle
Said it before, I just cant wait for new commissioners for both leagues. I just want to see the chance of seeing some of these players be larger than life outside their sport.
short flame
McDavid should be at the level of a Pat Mahomes and Curry. But he's just a name ...
Maybe not mcsauce but I agree
Ovi doesn’t get enough recognition
dim kettle
Some people know Ovi and Crosby. But again, they don't even come close to the bare minimum the NHL did with Wayne Gretzky.
celest zephyr
Damn shame with how good they are
dim kettle
short flame
Some people know Ovi and Crosby. But again, they don't even come close to the ba...
They should get the same level of hype from the league
short flame
Anyone here watches the bills?
I was wondering if there were adverts with Donny granato during bills games
Since there are bills adverts during sabres games
dim kettle
short flame
There are josh Allen fans here
Oh that’s the guy sab hates
dim kettle
He's still worked up about his favorite QB not going to the Superbowl again
celest zephyr
He's still worked up about his favorite QB not going to the Superbowl again
Or buying a josh Allen shirt and then him not winning the sb
Because he was so convinced that it would happen
Massive fan
For though siren and ray are the josh Allen fans
But they are also fans of other teams
Nooooooooo 
rustic mountain
They can say whatever they need to
Josh Allen aint in the super bowl, so this season wasn't all bad
rustic mountain
And you love Philly fans!
dim ledge
rustic mountain
dim ledge
Fair play
celest zephyr
They can say whatever they need to
Daft punk pog
celest zephyr
robust grotto
Let’s goooooo
short flame
Woo one more rookie signing a contract
hasty basin
Fuck Mason Greenwood
W opinion
hasty basin
Shouldn’t be playing again
He shouldn't
short flame
He should rot as far away as possible
dim kettle
Twitter
smoky fable
https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1621229592139730945?s=46&t=efZt23FcuIIJA...
Watch them hire Saturday
dim kettle
rustic ore
https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1621229592139730945?s=46&t=efZt23FcuIIJA...
Eagles and Colts just gonna keep playing hot potato with coaches?
Reich went to Indy and brought Sirianni, Sirianni went to Philly and sniped Steichen from the Chargers, now Steichen possibly going to Indy
celest zephyr
Pretty much
Also took wentz from the eagles
So eagles colts just trading with each other
robust grotto
https://twitter.com/kevinweekes/status/1621268860207865856?s=46&t=SmqoiWXAQoo3HqHbQN9VXw if it’s NYR … ✈️
Twitter
sweet tree
AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
fickle peak
the eagles are benefitting more than the colts from the trades, like wentz trade paid off so much for the eagles
rustic ore
Indeed
short flame
https://twitter.com/kevinweekes/status/1621268860207865856?s=46&t=SmqoiWXAQoo3Hq...
That’s great news
celest zephyr
https://twitter.com/kevinweekes/status/1621268860207865856?s=46&t=SmqoiWXAQoo3Hq...
Leafs rangers ?
robust grotto
Leafs rangers ?<:YamatoHappy:889230768361062500>
versed forge
Wtf
dim ledge
🤨
smoky fable
Mixon had MAJOR character issues coming out of college
Bengals need a new running back
rustic mountain
There was also something about a parking citation and he was threatening the citation officer
If I were Cincy, Id just cut bait
Running back is definitely replaceable and Mixon doesn't deserve to be in the nfl
smoky fable
Running back is definitely replaceable and Mixon doesn't deserve to be in the nf...
He felt no remorse if he was saying this today 4 hours ago
rustic mountain
Of course not
versed forge
Twitter
rustic mountain
See ya Mixon
dim kettle
https://mobile.twitter.com/CassyArsenault/status/1621291011233169413
The person who's value dropped in the draft because of character issues has a warrant on him now, what a shocking revelation this is.
celest zephyr
The person who's value dropped in the draft because of character issues has a wa...
Almost like guys with character issues shouldn’t be drafted
But no a team somehow drafted malloux and Miller
Despite both of them being absolute pieces of shit
Temper is one thing but if a guy has been tried or at least accused of something that has valid evidence then don’t draft them
dim kettle
Mixon was drafted when Marvin Lewis was still there. I'm not too surprised when Vontaze Burfict and Pacman Jones were still there.
dim kettle
Definitely belongs in a jail cell next to Greg Hardy in 10 years time. As Tree once said
rustic mountain
Cincy decided for a while that no matter the rap sheet, they are getting on the field
celest zephyr
Still remember the Hannibal lecter thing from a former Arizona gm
If a criminal could throw a football, wouldn’t be surprised if some team tried to get him on their team
Heck a certain Watson is proof enough
Or Big Ben
dim kettle
Steeler fans would build a statue of him if they could. But god forbid the Steelers try signing Michael Vick.
celest zephyr
The leader of men and respecting women
As tree said deshaun roethlisberger
Heck the nfl would
You saw the whole last home game thing
They milked the shit out of it
Same with Kobe’s last game
dim kettle
Also a reminder that the Ravens have a statue of Ray Lewis outside the stadium. The dude covered up a murder.
short flame
feel free to remove if it's not allowed
short flame
https://vxtwitter.com/lyssax86/status/1621010223379906561?s=46&t=eqZIWO2Rg4yv2UO...
no sabertooth?
robust grotto
He’s somewhere there!!
robust grotto
LEGGGOOO
robust grotto
OH NOOOOO
short flame
smoky fable
He likes it
rustic mountain
<@420202273885519872>
Okay now I hate the Sabres
short flame
didn't you already?
dim kettle
short flame
what's that?
versed forge
Sports channel
dim kettle
what's that?
Terrible local sports channels that locations like mine are forced to deal with.
nimble onyx
Lmao
dim kettle
A QB coming off a torn ACL who probably won't be ready for the beginning of the regular season and the fact that needing to study film was part of his contract when the news first broke out. Along with uncertainty in the GM position and roster. Yeah, it's as I predicted. Who the fuck wants to come there?
short flame
Terrible local sports channels that locations like mine are forced to deal with.
Sorry to hear
You can’t watch msg?
rustic ore
Love how they're just completely ignoring the nut shot and trying to purely blame Mitchell
novel slate
Bro took aim and swung at it 😂😂
short flame
https://vxtwitter.com/willbrinson/status/1621333014843166720?s=46&t=mU4-Fg0Zl6Zh...
Why did he fall back and threw the ball
What a pathetic little man
novel slate
sweet tree
that Dillon guy is annoying lol
novel slate
Why did he fall back and threw the ball <:KataOmegaLUL:638864734623498274>
Pain and anger 
sweet tree
yeah that's yikes
sweet tree
https://vxtwitter.com/babyrob05/status/1621339081170124800?s=46&t=mU4-Fg0Zl6ZhM0...
lmao the at the "boink"
short flame
The full speed video doesn’t look intentional