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What is it?
Who’s that?
Not bad
Not ideal but at least he’s near the mid twenties
Barca are desperate to get him so he can replace Busi
One of the best U 25 number 6 right now
I would prefer to activate his release clause and loan him back to Sociedad before someone else snatches him
We need someone who can help right now. We’re not building a team, we’re fighting for a title. Rebuild in the summer, right now we need a big player who can come hand us the title and then see who we develop
Would love to sack you then 
Hoping for a good game 🙏
Do I think Jacksonville has a snowballs chance in hell at winning today? No. But I want them too 
Here we go
Good luck to your boys
Just want a competitive game
Snow game
Wow
Same! Last weekend was fun wlto watch
Nice way of including snowballs
It's not a snow game though 
Wait is it snowing!?
Snowing but not a snow game. Misspoke
Looks cold
I was just thinking the same thing 😂 I don't like the chiefs but the chop is cool
It probably gets loud af there when they do that
I think they've been fighting with Seattle for having the world record for loudest stadium
Should have been a catch imo
Think there’ll be fumbles in this game
Those tackles for KC got beat there
Jags will need them

Mahomes is just unfair
Kelce game
They got pressure and still a completion
Unfair man
this might be a slaughtering lol
Literally
basically a 1st down each play
Jags getting pressure
It's fascinating really
What is
The KC Tackles have apparently been ass all year but thanks in large part to their elite interior and Mahomes being...well Mahomes their O hasn't missed a beat
1st down again
Disgusting
Monster
Yeah what’s up
They need to upgrade their tackles. Brown has been overhyped
Dude wants to be one of the highest paid Tackles 
That is asinine
Nothing they could do
Too easy
83 yards and 6 minutes
Perfect first drive
Jaguars better be immaculate offensively
Yeah that’ll be fun
Ngl i want to watch bengals bills the most
49ers already faced the cowboys last year
SF and Dallas could be fun if Dallas can actually get pressure on Purdy
The two games Sunday will be entertaining
Nice return
Damn good return
Happy Etienne is showing what he can as a pro, hurt seeing him miss his rookie year with that foot injury
TD
Kirk
Conflicting emotions since it’s Christian Kirk, but he’s been quality
Always got in his consistency
Why the hell was Karlaftis on Kirk???
What
His best year as a pro by far
Yep
Bad play design, as soon as you saw a WR lined up at RB that should've been a red light to switch him off to a DB
Yep
Think it was just supposed to be a zone blitz and then Karlaftis was supposed to be in that zone, unless Spagnuolo has a DE dropped into man coverage for whatever reason
Oh my goodness
mahomes is just different its unfair
Mahome shaken up
Too bad his defense is so mid
Uh oh
NOO
Ouch
Oh
Ankle got twisted
He got twisted on the ankle
Henne warming up
howd jags get a TD I missed it
Great return
Touchdown to Kirk from ten yards out
Nvm, Mahomes forcing his way out there
Tough as nails but not smart imo
Andy you need to pull him
Right leg is dinged up
Mahomes limping to the sideline for the end
🦿
Henne warming up
that really sucks
i remember browns had the golden opportunity to beat chiefs in that game
Good defense
Mahomes staying in
they even got a endzone interception
I just hope he’s okay
Fumble
That has to be incomplete
Arm was going forward
Mahomes just had nothing on that one
But that was close
He’s lucky that went forward
Good kick
Right down the middle
It's gonna be something to watch as the game goes on
Right handed QBs throw off of their right foot
y’all are 40 seconds ahead of me 
If he can't set his feet to throw their aerial attack gets neutered
"That was a great play by Patrick Mahomes"
patrick had the ball slip out of his hand incomplete
God I hate the NFL media dude
He can’t scramble at all
And can’t plant to throw
I highly doubt Mahomes did that on purpose and it wasn't just the ball slipping out of his hand
Collinsworth is too much with his coverage
My god
Allen, Mahomes, and Burrow: gods amongst us according to these broadcasters
It honestly makes them more hateable
did y’all hear the bills game last week
Commentators sure love slobbering over the same players over and over
unbearable
Mahomes looked like he hurt himself pretty bad but I'm not a doctor
just get chopper to wrap him up
Oh yeah, he's hurting for sure
Yes I did. I couldn't stand it dude
mahomes need that injection zoro just had
Allen had a mixed game as well. Wasn’t his best
Russel Wilson is on your team
is this chat anime only btw
I would say yes
I'd assume so
try to keep spoilers as low as possible imo tho
Josh Allen love is forever though 💛🤎😌
When I retired everything that wasn't manga channels was anime only
its a sports channel
i just don’t wanna spoil anyone 
Plus yeah its a sports channel so
Me
We don't really talk a ton of anime here
Oh
I could see it
Nice run
Nice
They’re getting good blocks
Jacksonville trying to make a statement today buddy
Well this game he could probably sit out
a kitty cat afc title game?
First down
Anyone knows where I can stream the chiefs jags game for free? Like are there discord servers for that
bengal tiger would destroy a jaguar
im on a free trial on youtube tv for 5 days
make a new account every week
Check crack streams
Or sportsurge
Or frontrowsports
I am no help I got directtv
Oh wow, sounds nice
These are websites right?
Yup
Yeah
Aight thanks folks
Mahomes injury really done ruined my day
Sack
Chris jones too good
Oof
Mahomes frustrated
Mahomes being forced to go to the lockerroom
He's pissed
So Henne coming in for sure
Well at least I don’t have to watch the chiefs again
And have mahomes get sucked off for 60 straight minutes
Good punt
Perfect punt
That could be the thint Jax needs to pull a massive upset
Take a field goal cowards
It’s the 39 honestly they could kick it
Henne going in
I'm sure you rock the shoulder pads and mouth piece harder than he does
me after a perfect punt 🤯
CHAD HENNE SUPERBOWL MVP
i dont think mahomes injury will last more than 2 weeks
he should be healthy in the SB
Drip it is okay to cope


Making a lot of assumptions that A) it isn't serious and especially B) that KC can beat Buffalo of Cincy with Mahomes not at 100%
OOF
That should have been picked
Or well that they can even beat the jags without him
Should've been a pick
Damn
Almost picked
I mean without mahomes they can’t beat the bengals or bills
Drip sweating hard

Pacheco has been nice to watch
What happened to mahomes
Got hit
someone fell on his leg
Oof
Ankle got twisted on a hit from behind in the 1st
Was limping badly
Got forced to go the trainer's room but he's back on the sideline with his helmet on

And I can jump just as high as he can so we're basically the same human 😌
Hey we get chad henne at least lol
Hard hit
Damn are they going to have to go to their third string qb
Timeout KC
Wait o e timeout with 7 minutes left yikes
Nah the hard shot was on Skyy Moore the wide receiver
Damn I just seen the hit
Speaking of skyy Moore I thought he’d be decent for them
You know what was funny is on replay it almost looked at the end like the KC O-lineman was going after the ball himself to cause an FF
Looks like he was a non factor
He's a rookie and the expectation was he could fill that Tyreek role
Yeah but 250 yards is rough
You don't just replace a HOF caliber talent in 1 offseason with a rookie
KC just been blessed with a qb that raises the talent around him and Travis Kelce
But if they had Tyreek, I don't see anyone beating KC
He ain't retiring anytime soon
Hill? The dude who isnlike 25?
Dude still in his prime making bank
Lol "Everybody shut up"
Refs trying to do crowd control
Weak
What even is roughing the passer now
That is the first time in a long time Ive seen actually roughing the passer
Good call
hmm an actual RTP
Helmet to helmet contact
Well he’s also biased
Big run
This run defense is awful
PACHECO
Weak is what happened with Tom Brady and the Falcons
Pacheco is the future
Touchdown
Jaguars should be disgusted
Damn I’m behind but nice
They never call that against KC
LETS GOO
99 yard TD drive, that is an answer back
Home cooking
The Chiefs are a tier above Jacksonville
Yeah good season but woof
They definitely aren't gonna just let the Jags come in and do what they did to LAC
17-7 KC
Henne 🐐
Dang that was an nba play
Great News: Former #NFL RB Peyton Hillis has been discharged from the hospital after being in critical condition for the last 2 weeks following the accident in which he saved his kids from drowning.
Hillis made a full recovery after an extended stay at the ICU.
Amazing! 🙏
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Good shit
W
Sad this didn't get any mention on NFL network or as far as I know ESPN
I get it's not a Hamlin situation but still
Personally feel like we could do better deals
Not too fussed if he didn’t join
Getting paid all the money for that
Shut the hell up Collinsworth, that wasn't an overthrow
I could’ve caught that in my sleep
Crazy
Man they should tradefor Hopkins
Jacksonville had the 3rd highest drop rate in the NFL this year 🙃
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I hope chiefs get hopkins
They should, then again Hopkins old ass ain't running down the field that fast
True but his ability to catch is kinda crazy
Of course they can always bet on Calvin Ridley.
Bro i forgot they even got ridley
No chiefs get washed Julio jones
To be honest, The Jags probably had to overpay to get anyone last offseason.
Gonna be interesting what he looks like next year post missing football effectively for 2 years
He was an elite route runner in ATL
Cause the last time he played was I believe Week 18 of last season, so nothing since January of last year
And his first game back won't be until this fall
Wait I need an update I had to leave my house
10-17
😬😬😬
Chad henne is him

When you realize the Chiefs basically ran the ball that last drive.

Mahomes still on the sideline, somewhat long drive by the Jags where Kirk dropped a perfectly throw 60 yard bomb, Jags had to settle for 3
Nah that was henne trust me
Yeah Henne made good decisions
Should've been picked tbh but that's life
Yeah, good decisions. Like handing the ball over to Isiah Pacheco for a big gain near the goal line.
Is mahomes completely ruled out of the game now?
quesitonable return
Questionable i believe
I see
The way he was limping just doing basic hand offs just has red flags over it.
Yeah he’s done
Jags get the ball at half, technically probably the best decision to take the FG but man
That could've been a TD drive
mahome is injured for life
Andy reid probably won’t let him in even if he wanted to
Let mahomes rest
17-10 KC at the half
Chad henne is my goat
Mike Tirico when Trevor Lawrence completes a pass: “that was Mahomes-esque”
We’re really going to praise the Chiefs when the Jags do something right?
Come on. Really disappointed in NBC’s presentation today. It’s like it’s all Chiefs and we’re just background noise
If we miraculously win this, we getting clapped next week badly
Combine that with:
- Roughing the passer and the graphic showed #49 on the Chiefs, not Arden Key
- Florio taking the Chiefs by saying Mahomes would try a behind the back pass today
- Tirico calling Trevor Lawrence “Chad Henne”
This is pathetic
It is what it is
Mahomes will be back by then i feel like
Its only a sprained ankle
Don't over look opponents, lot of football left to be played
Football players built different
This would take longer in the nba lmao
its a shitty feeling overall, seeing your qb get hurt in the playoff, few years ago my team qb got concussion and was ruled out
Lmao fr
Baltimore?
Yeah, Doug Pederson is probably one of the last guys I'd over look.
nah philly
Wait there is an eagles fan here
am i not wanted 👀

No no, stay
Nah
All are welcome
You’re good!
There is also a cowboys fan here i think
Rob is an Eagles fan too iirc
Apparently Hurts is gonna play well still hurt.
We can have a civil war here
He's still hurt?
Damn
That shoulder must've been proper jacked
Oh is he???
Yeah, after that last sb appearance, we needed redemption badly
And you just never know when your window will remain that open
Feels like the chiefs have a good chance against the nfc this year
At least you have a ring
mahomes was on fire this year, probably his best year
He's easily getting MVP this year
Yeah nfc kinda soft
Yeah always sad to go out like that after getting a beast regular season
I don't understand how people seriously think Hurts has a legit, the yardage, TDs, and quality of opponents between Mahomes and Hurts is night and day
2016 warriors flashbacks lmaoooo
And if by some miracle it wasn't Mahomes it'd be Burrow
X-Rays were negative, source said. That’s the good news. But it does appear to be a high-ankle sprain for Patrick Mahomes.
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Their O isn't doing bad rn with Henne in
Personally would roll the dice with him the rest of the game and rest Mahomes in case KC holds on to win and moves on next week
Yeah high ankle sprains are bad
HENNETHING IS POSSIBLE
Cause otherwise you're shooting his ankle up with pain killers and having a tight wrap and hoping for the best
Can’t forget how they praised Chad Henne for leading a heroic, Herculean 98-yard drive where I don’t think he threw a single pass more than 3 yards down the field
What else is he supposed to do
And yet the Jags D couldn't stop getting dink and dunked down the field until they gave up that big run to Pacheco
And he didn't even mention that deflected ball that should've got picked.
Yup
Make the plays and stop complaining
Refs for the most part are staying out of it so pretty even game
Plus you were gift wrapped an injured Mahomes
Sounds like Barry talking about Brady
Yeah but Barry is a known troll
Like his stick is trolling
I’d think he was hacked if he made any not trolling nfl take
I mean he is
But the dude has the biggest hate on for Tom Brady
Not just trolling
Eagles
Ahhhh
I mean he is an asshat. And Philly has a lot of those
Also Boston
Probably still salty about 2005 (even though Philly got them back a decade later)
Cmon, he's funny though. No offense to the Chargers second half.
Oh he def is funny
What second half
Should say something that I watched his videos even when Tom was on my team
All i saw was the jaguars
Spanos gonna Spanos
Yeah and Ace escaped Marineford without any injury. 
And the falcons won the sb 28-3
Oh wait, KC gets ball? Could've sworn KC got the ball to start the game
Mahomes back out there
Mahomes is in
Yup
And the warriors won the 2016 championship with a series record of 3-1
They probably have a different gameplan for him to be out there.
Those are some strong painkillers
Please don’t, I still have nightmares about this
Yup

sry cat on my keyboard lol
Ironic
Well damn lmao
Mahomes is actually insane for running on that ankle
Hobbling back
Wow he’s crazy
Painkillers didn’t work there
Incomplete
Dang
He just picked him up
Warrior fans when they see a 3-1 question on the chalkboard:
Oof
Yikes he looked bad
He doesn’t look 100 percent
Jags D finally gets a stop
He aired it
Put him back out
Walker just barely tipped that
Nice played by him
Dude should be sitting on the sideline
Cris Collinsworth: "What they did to Mahomes in that locker room, we don't know."
Oh, it probably involved so much Toradol that it would knock out a rhinoceros.
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imagine if nfl players all have haki
Oof, clear offsides but no call
He looked like he jumped
That was a bad miss
How was that not called
Fr, ref was right there
That’s still a penalty
You know, if Mahomes is gonna still play. Jags should really have no problem sending pressure.
That’s how they get free plays on offense
Have to be better against the run though
Nice run
Etienne is doing well
Even with the hand offs he's hobbling.
Feed him, dude is explosive
Timed that up well
Sometimes you forget this guy had a big injury in preseason over a year ago.
Blown protection
And this is why players like Joey Bosa have no problem calling out refs.
Bad throw though
He panicked
Refs suck
Getting a bit 1 sided at this point in KC's favor
Home cooking
Forget that Lawrence is a second year qb
And he had urban as a coach last year
Shit will happen
For like a month until he got fired after getting a lap dance from some young thing in a bar post a bad loss

The NFL really has to do something about the refs. Because players like Joey Bosa having no problem paying a fine to call them out and more players will make this a bigger problem.
And hitting his own kicker
NFL isn't going to do shit about refs because they'll just leave and you end up with the replacement ref fiasco
Officiating in modern sports sucks as a whole
Umpires in baseball are by far the worst though
WTF is this experian ad
Nba has this badly
Nah nba refs suck asss
It's only like that because those umps also have to call over 162 games.
Let them leave them and start developing younger ones to call it down the middle
Refs should do postgame interviews as well
Yeah NBA refs definitely suck too
Best case would be that every Sports league has a ref academy where they train full time refs instead of what they do which is people who basically do it as a hobby
NBA refs often suck because everything is judgement calls with those refs and the NBA doesn't care to see how they're always called the rigged league.
Terrible blitz
Yeesh
I don’t know a single sports league today that has above average officiating
PACH GOAT
Andy challenging to prevent a sneak
It's more apparent in the NFL though because the some of the rules themselves are garbage.
i would say volleyball leagues are doing a good job
First down
That's clearly a first down
Tennis I would imagine is as close as you can get to fair
Patrick Mahomes runs for three yards and throws an eight-yard pass to Travis Kelce:
NBC - "That man is built differently!"
Trevor Lawrence throws sixty-yards effortlessly to a receiver that drops the pass:
NBC - "Terrible quarterback. Absolute bum. Mahomes would never!"
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Fr though
Lol
He is injured but yeah
The dick sucking
Would collinsworth be the best (or worst?) at that
I bet the NFL pays the networks to simp for the stars. Because it's marketable.
Romo up there as well
But Trevor Lawrence is really good?? LOL
Romo is as much as a simp for Mahomes as John Madden was for Favre.
They simp for the stars because they are marketable
Damn no first down?
Nope
Short
Yup, short
Man these subway ads suck
Punt
Fuck
HE DIDN’T GET IT
Bruhhh
How was that not a first down for Pacheco?
dang what a defensive stop
nfl rule book strikes again
If this was Mahomes, he would’ve been disqualified
They said it's where the ball was when he went out which was apparently short
Yeah if you're gonna call that hit earlier against the Jags roughing you have to call that roughing
1st
Conf game is on a neutral site? What’s with the change
Only if it's KC and Buffalo
Cause of what happened with the game between Buffalo and Cincy being called a no contest due to what happened to Damar Hamlin
Yeah he was a steal for them
What are they doing on offense
I see, thought it was the nfl tryna implement a pre-superbowl superbowl
This is rough
Good stand by KC D
Fuck
LETS GO DEFENSE

If we win it'll be because of our defence
Pederson has to cool it with those screens
Bring henne back
The Ravens have started putting together a list of candidates to replace former offensive coordinator Greg Roman.Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com reports that the team has requested an interview with Browns wide receivers coach and passing game coordinator Chad O’Shea. The Ravens have also requested an interview with Rams pass game coordinator/qu...

Nah that isn’t it
Nice ball
Bad defense
Guys, guys. I think the Jags offense plays better when down by 20.
How is he open
LFG
That's a defensive breakdown.
Just a reminder for anyone who forgot, dude was a 1 year OC for the 2019 Dolphins team that finished 5-11
Just good break up
How is that DPI?!
To be frank, Flores went through OCs like candy his time there in Miami.
Oh wait
Refs man
Hold on
Oh this is on KC
Didn't see that coming
Fuck
Bruh
Back in FG range
Juju why
The Chiefs are gonna give the Jags 100 attempts to win the game and blow it, aren't they? Geez, feels like I'm watching a modern GB playoff game.
Lets go
Good
Butker clutch
Would’ve been a disaster
Lmao the tp
Jags need a score this drive
Don't matter if it's just an FG
They need to make this one possession
Jesus
What a sack
Maybe Doug will remember you're allowed to call forward passes
So Jags gonna start the 4th with 2nd and long

Jesus Lawrence got killed

Yeah, looking like it's the end for the Jags this season. Just outmatched.
I swear this team plays its best football when Mahomes gets injured
So true 💀
Defence I mean
The combo of letting Henne drive 98 yards for a TD paired with Kirk dropping a perfect 60 yd pass on the next drive is probably enough to cost the Jaguars this game.
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Just like the Cleveland game where they went crazy after Mahomes got concussed
This isn't over yet
Oh this the barry yall were talking about earlier
Well at least Doug will trust T-Law more than Stefanski with Baker when it matters most.
That near pick on that Henne drive will haunt them this off-season
Assuming they lose of course
Our defence can still blow it
Nice throw
Nice run by TLaw
Bolton apparently shaken up for KC
Big loss if he's hurt
Good LB
That KC front 7 is underrated
Oh he's still out there, good to see
Jags have as many rushing yards (93) as they do passing yards (93)
Nope on KC
Noooo
Play is good
Yeah that was busted coverage
Fuck
Yep
Nice play
Good drive
Man, if the Chiefs blow a 10 point lead in the 4th.
Jacksonville coming into KC and playing way tougher than I thought
Well designed end around
Not dead yet
TD
Touchdown
Etienne

Fuck
Finally a game again
Etienne is a bad man
NOT
DEAD
YET
Jacksonville showing some nuts bro
Coming into KC and making them earn this shit
That Extra point could have been bad
They’re not going out without a fight
See our defence is perfectly capable of blowing it
Who said they are going out at all at this point
Is there Kicker a rookie? Feel like he is
Florida boys pushing it hard
Jacksonville is still fake Florida to me
Nah. It’s real Florida 
It's Georgia south
It's Southern Georgia, damnit lol
I always thought Jacksonville was in the Midwest America when I was younger
It’s like when I try to claim Spokane isnt in WA because how ridiculously like Idaho it is
No kidding if you were ever traveling from Georgia to Jacksonville you couldn't tell the difference
2nd year
Had an open tight end
oof
Yeah Allen nearly tipped that
The better Josh Allen
The many questions in sports. How does Ovi get open for a slapshot on a PP? How does nobody cover LeBron James when it's a 3 point game? And rn, how does Kelce not get covered?
Bad ball
Chargers fans boutta welcome us in the couch soon
Big play
Lmao they are going to be so happy
Flag on the KC player?
Bro I am muting this. Collinsworth cant stop blowing Mahomes
how is kelce not getting triple teamed smh
blindside block?
Happiness to sadness in a matter of secs
Oh wow, should've been blindside block
W kelce
Juju getting away with things
Damn juju paid the refs
Badass
Kelce is absolutely killing these guys
encroachment
He’s a one man army
Oh NOW they call encroachment 
Something something Kelce is good at catching the ball
KC home cooking
It's not only the catching. He can run quick passes.
Lmao juju
Nfl refuses to let the chiefs lose
😂😂
flag
Let refs cook
Well he also still has to catch the ball lol
It’s not like he’s the qb
Jags are selling lmaoo
Juju
I think a lot of TEs can catch the ball. The dude is probably faster than a lot of receivers
Yeah that’s fair
Kelce gets open so easily
Chiefs going to still make the afccg
Because we can’t have nice things
KC gonna get every call this drive. Script writers gotta make that buffalo kc afccg
Neutral site advertising’s all ready to go
Pre-superbowl superbowl
Now watch Patrick throw a pick in the EZ. Oh wait, that's Josh Allen's thing. My bad.
Nice run by Toney
Giants fans malding
I love this script
Nice TFL
Damn pacheco so nice
Just blew the line up
Please fumble at the one yard line
TD
TD
I'm behind
And that should do it
LETS GO MVS


Should about do it
YOU LOVE TO SEE IT
I haven't seen it!
I told you Kimmy this shits been decided
I told you that before the playoffs started
Oh wow td
Chiefs playoff games reduce my lifespan everytime
If bulls win the sb I ain’t watching anymore
It's not over yet. But Jags have to find answers for both sides quick
not possible
Bills lol
so you're stuck
Patrick limping
The Bills will win the sb by 3
Yes i know what the bullls are
Doesnt matter who it is
But Michael Jordan would damn well try LOL
He's basically been playing with 1 leg all game
Good lord the dicksucking nick wright gonna be on
College Football is over. The South Florida Bulls aren't playing anymore
The Chicago Bulls are gonna switch to the NBA and win the SB this year
I can feel it
They need to make him sit out
Losing to Joe Burrow before that happens

uh wut
I would love that but you know as well as I do, NFL not gonna let the Bills loss
NFL sorry
Lose*
they nba already or am I missing the joke
Was trying to make a dumb joke
ye
Problem? @modest totem

truu smh
I hope mahomes heals well enough by next game (if they win today), need that revenge on joe cool
🥹 🤝
Yeesh
damn
That is bold af of you to say
he could have broken it
Nearly house called that
that punter
Agnew is so good
The winner of Cincy vs Buf (which will be Buf) will be the sb rep
Whewwww agnewwwww
That man has our number 
Lmao what a play by butker
Buffalo is predestined and if the script writers try to throw us off then Joe will take KC out
I will riot in the streets
T-Law had a guy wide open on the other side.
kirk hurt
Bruh our special teams be selling
I will shower In champagne
MR.UNLIMITED
#Packers trading QB Aaron Rodgers is a 'very real scenario', according to @AdamSchefter
The two sides are "fully aware a trade is a real possibility,"
Aaron still hasn't decided if he'll play next year, but that would mean Rodgers will leave $60 million on the table if he does
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Shoulda did that last year you morons
Aaron Rodgers and not commiting to anything
Rodgers to raiders
I would trade the entire Browns roster for Patrick mahomes and Andy Reid
Won't commit to his family, his ex-fiancee, and now football
They’ll have Brady and Rodgers play at the same time
mid off
*everything but Myles Garrett
Washed off
Mega washed
Rodgers is a jet confirmed
Please god Lamar come to sf
Nice run by Engram
that was a bad snap
oh he caught that
Nice catch but a flag





