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Archer, fed has always been seen just being too dismissive of things he can't understand so it's par for course he tries to shit on quite a few good series

Just because it’s worth rereading and you get more out of it on repeated visits doesn’t mean it’s freaking James Joyce man
And the people who've read it 1 time rated it 1 star because the payoff wasn't worth trying to understand the stuff (on first read)
On a serious note, dismissive attitude towards a piece of fiction on a positive note just because those reviews make it sound so pretentious is not it
It’s a challenging work, that can’t be denied. That said unless you’re completely brain dead or don’t put any effort in at all you’re still going to walk away with a great story.
Even on a first read
Hawkeye, Ms. Marvel, Moonknight, and She-Hulk preview and a bunch more Marvel Disney+ series announcements
Fed, I'm not sure you've read James Joyce, I do suggest it because I wanna see what you think of Ulysses lmao
It's one of the most difficult reading experiences you'll ever have
The person that suggested BOTNS to me is a James Joyce fan too lol
Probably doesn't help
Yeah I saw! It all looks soo good. Kenobi concept trailer is out on D+ as well in UK
There's no correlation there
Star Wars

lol sry nvm that
Fed you sound so stupid it's honestly a waste of time talking to you now I'm gonna move on
im most excited for that spidey show
Lol honestly the thing I’m most excited for is crimson reign
New Marvel Disney+ show logos
Fed just needs to get out of his comfort zone a bit
Interesting
Stormlight is good no doubt but it's not the greatest series out of many great series
D+ Ftw
More content announced 
Waiting for that content 
What the fuck did I miss

Let me get a link
Disney+ Day Marvel news video ||https://disneyplus.com/movies/marvel-studios-2021-disney-day-special/6o3sloKePurL?sharesource=iOS||
Idk if it’ll work but ye
Why they drop it in the middle of the day tho
Then wait until you get home 
All their content comes out at 12am PST anyway
That spider man show hype as hell
Agent Carter ep 1 ||Peggy’s outfit looks really nice. The red hat with the blue suit is
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Agent Carter ep 1 ||”Did you unknowingly sell weapons to the enemy” 
What kind of dumbass question is that||
Agent Carter ep 1 ||Sexism
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I don't care
We need uncle Ben
I don't care if ppl hate it
I like the idea of a prequel
With no other mcu characters from the avengersss
Just spiderman
we had enough uncle ben for the next 100 years
Uncle ben needs his own origin story

Moonknight || https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1459208775546466306?s=20 ||
"I can’t tell the difference between my waking life and dreams."
The first #MoonKnight footage reveals Oscar Isaac's take on the Marvel character. https://t.co/B5VK0PrqxR
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Oscar isaac is moon knight??? Dope
This looks good
I can't believe this is happening lol
Arcane in 12?
this is too many
Wait they have teasers for She Hulk, Ms Marvel, and Secret Invasion too
shit I can believe || mcu xmen || is finally happenning too
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what a time to be alive
I didn't know the spiderman thing was gonna be a TV show
Animated?
I mean at least we'll get a good spiderman cartoon
Yeah
It's been years since we've got a good spiderman cartoon
Last one was spectacular spiderman I think
Nah that was just ok
👎
Last good one was spectacular spiderman
it was good and introduced lesser known characters to a larger audience
White tiger, nova, iron fist, one other guy
Ultimate spiderman was too comedic
And had Peter breaking the fourth wall way too much
spiderman is comedic
Spectacular was too good for this world
He would break the fourth wall every 2 seconds
His personality without the fourth wall breaks were ok
Was*
Finally Moon Knight content in WS 
I think all spidey adaptations were good, aside from the amazing spiderman, cause I didn't watch it
when i was a kid i really liked Spiderman and super friends or w/e
with ice man and some star fire type lady
jesus christ the miss marvel trailer is 5 seconds long
i was hoping to see denial for some rumors from a few weeks ago
what were the rumors
@brave orbit wot is gonna release some animated shorts along with the episodes || https://twitter.com/TheWheelOfTime/status/1459223681687699458 ||
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I hope it's not too short because it looks siiiick
Miss marvel || They changged her powers, and took away the part of her turning white and nto feeling comfortable in her own skin, but ive seen no proof and was hoping the trailer would prove it ||
Star Wars: the clone wars
Stealing that
@north sun I've read the first chapter
Took me 3 hours because I was trying to understand what was happening
But it was pretty good I guess
u a big rex guy? @magic bloom
Good man
Take your time with it and don’t worry about understanding every little thing right away.
BOTNS 1

BOTNS 1 || I found some sus things like Vodalus stumbling a lot and also giving random objects to people which they become attached to, making them call him Liege or smth. Also Drotte leaving to do something and the fact the chapter is titled rebirth and a random knife gets thrown out of a dead man's corpse ||
Yes 
rex is for the boys
Yeah he’s awesome
If you you have questions feel free to ask
A lot of stuff you may be confused about is rafo though
One thing i cbb to check back
BOTNS 1 ||Who got stabbed from the knife? Was it the leader of the volunteers?||
||the ones killed fighting Vodalus? They were the volunteers yeah.|| BOTNS
got spoiled by a fucking episode title in the list on netflix 

never EVER
look at ep titles
or synopsis
i was just checking how many eps the season had 
thats a bait

ur eyes want too much info
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sometime soon

Q1 release let’s gooooo
What is BOTNS?
Lmaoo enjoy!
ay im so hyped
You’ll love it !
Lets goo
Book of the new sun
Book of the New Sun
ohhhhh
I came across it in a list of recommendations
are you guys reading it?
I can switch to that 😛
Peak fiction is not a term to be used lightly but it just might apply here
brother is watching the new clifford movie n im lookin every now and then in the background
fun time at best nothing more
Watched shangi chi
Was okay
Now im watching fistful of dollars
Its weird that its englished dubbed
Sure is a startling lack of spaghetti in spaghetti westerns
I really enjoyed it , was quite sad
Are people watching it on Disney +
Oh yeah Shang chi is a thing
Plus Disney plus $2 right noe
Steal
I took my niece yesterday.. super cute
sounds like a good deal too bad I’m already mooching off my friends account
did you ever watch rons gone wrong?
oh not yet
lmk if you do
ok, ima try and get around to it this weekend
word most peoples ay its good
thought it'd be a C tier throw away film but i was genuinely engaged
maya and the three amazing
sti;; a bum and have yet to to finish
gonna do it tonight before arcane
kuzan can vouch
huh the japanese opening of the old xmen show fucking slaps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rSw4Xl5qfs
I am vouching for pasto. Great series
Jorge Gutierrez is up there with genndy tartakovsky for me at this point
Okay I believe you and @sage sleet , that's a high recommend then
The Funk-Pasto stamp of approval has value
Better than a certain prequel
?
Ohh, yeah Black Widow doesn't look that great
I haven't really payed attention to MCU stuff in a while
Was it better the Captain Marvel tho? Lol
Lack lidow
Shang Chi gets better everytime i think about it, that final sequence tho 😎😎
Jk. I love Scarlet Johanson. Sadly she got shafted
Tony Leung 😎😎
By Disney execs
No hate on Scarlett's character Natasha herself though
Super spy for life
Had more fun with shang chi than I have with marvel movies for a while tbh
Was wondering if the shows would be the highlight for phase 4 but nah
Well idk I haven't seen eternals yet
Pretty much forgot most of Black Widow at this point
The characters in black widow were the highlight
MCU stuff has been ehh
Ask me what happens in the movie at gun point and I will struggle to answer at all
Lately
||thats kinda all/the highlights Shang Chi was, the CGI was beautiful especially the dragon part. I loved the fight scenes, they were so cool and well done, the rings in it just completed it. The story bugged me the most tho, the dad had one dialogue through the whole movie it was your mom this, your mom that like???? || Shang chi
The plot uhh not a highlight but yk
The characters were ok
Shang Chi || Wenwu had much more than that lmao what are you talking about ||
I haven't seen Eternals yet either but I do want to eventually
Yeah but no good antagonist
Agree
I liked him
I don't know if I want to see it
It just has a good main cast that struggles for nothing
Honestly my favorite moment in bw was:
https://c.tenor.com/Da6T3XwGK50AAAAM/black-widow-black.gif
Oh bw
That whole sequence
Yeah black widow antagonist kuzan
Yeah the story was hollow for me

||Yes Wenwu had dialogue but not enough to make a decent conflict. His reasoning was weak, he didnt support much behind it other than " I miss your mom"|| Shang Chi
Shang Chi antagonist was great
||But ur mom|| Shang Chi
EXACTLY
You hate him that much huh?
Shang Chi || Wenwu had so much pathos with how he struggled with his grief that he forgot about his own children and sacrificed their childhood for his own gains ||
|| I actually really found it refreshing to see a marvel villain that I could actually sympathize with, besides Thanos ig || shang chi
||ya idk very cliche, dad turns mad act|| Shang chi
Shang Chi || bro was weird because that's how he coped with the loss, while his children moved on and tried to get away from him ||
||He was also a murdering asshole for 900 years before his kids. Stopped for 5 years and went back to it. Idk. Kinda lame motivation "but muh wife". Not a great excuse for war crimes tbh|| Shang Chi
^^
|| well we always knew the dad would be bad I don't think that was a twist || shang chi
|| your rival gang killing your wife is a bad motivation? Idk ||
Shang Chi || they still give him shit for that lmao, he's still a war criminal, his wife dies because of the consequences of his own war mongering ways and he gets back into it after that, it comes back to him anyways ||
|| I feel like she was the main reason he was a better person yk? ||
||it wasnt even explained as a rival tho,wasnt it just another random thug? it lacks that aspect to back up all these new characters|| shang chi
Shang Chi || he gets shit on throughout the film for being crazy and he is ||
||I wish that it would've been revealed that Shang Chi had been sent to kill Katie's grandpa and that had been the target who he successfully killed. Afterwards that would've made a lot of sense for why he was there for Katie after her gramps died.|| Shang Chi
|| it was explained that it was a rival from the past I'm pretty sure. Unless I just guessed it but I'm pretty sure ||
See ya harsh
Shang Chi still better than Shit Widow
Bye bye tater tot

I mean I like Natasha but that's jus me 
||still weak conflict, didnt fit right w me|| shang chi
Nah I agree scar. My gf and I had the same gripe
Well his thought process was
Don't talk about conflict here scarlet you'd fall flat being a black widow fan
Lmao
the movie couldve explained the thought process more than imo
|| "I tried it my wife's way and it got her killed, so I can't do it that way anymore" || shang chi
Anyways
||other than just, SHES ALIVE!!!|| Shang chi
Dude ||Can't wait to see Yelena go after Clint|| Hawkeye Disney+
OMG YESSS
Oh I guess you were talking about another issue
why dont u just admit its poor dialogue. Being a black widow fan doesnt mean nothin bro
i didnt say her movie was the best either
I don't wanna be a logiclord but yeah good stuff
ya definitely a fun watch
A low bar that’s for sure
It's definitely not bro lmao I've seen much worse dialogue elsewhere
Hope The Marvels is good
But I honestly don't care much about the MCU anymore
Took ya long enough
Hyped for the XMEN 97 revival

Which movie is it
New Marvel stuff announced today
👀
The new one looks very bland
Hope Oscar's MK is good.
I know Oscar is going to be good still
I didn't see it
They revealed the costume?
So excited for moonknight
That final shot in the trailer looks very cool
oh you didn’t like it?
lol read the spoiler tags
I read it
I watched the first hour of shang chi and it's pretty fun so far, I love the wuxia homage too
New question .. what would you give it 1-10?
uhh idk
also finally some good fight choreography, winter soldier is the last mcu movie where the fights blew me away
ya it has great fights
im thinking a 7/10 wbu?
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This is a win
I gave it a 9
damn
it's britney bitch
I gave it a 9 but Shang chi doesn’t have a lot of rewatch value. I tried watching it again and I got bored
yeahh
Just watched all the new Marvel teasers
They look cool
Especially moon knight
Also, She Hulk looks cool
Yeah I just hope she hulk doesn’t come off too CW like
Wait what am I saying. I’m thinking of ms marvel
really want to see more of ms marvel
need to know for sure those rumors arent true
@dense frigate X-Men 97 revival bro we're winning

people were complaining about ms marvels power change
Spice, we stay winnin
Idk if that’s the rumor or not
one of em
I'm gonna go listen to it
harsh did you listen to the japanese version of the op I posted?
I wish we could’ve gotten a secret invasion trailer
Agatha and Echo seems too soon. || I can’t wait to see how interesting she is in Hawkeye || Hawkeye
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Read death on the nile
Man
What a goddamn treat of a mystery
Death on the Nile ||So much more of a "Howdunnit" than a "Whodunnit" lol||
But man, the way Poirot peels away the layers of the crime one after the other is so addictive
Both death on the nile and Orient express and Poirot in general I guess
I am glad I chose to read these instead of watch
I watched Orient Express's ep, not sure I liked it too much
Try the 2017 movie ig. I remember it to be pretty good
It's not that good
House of X/Powers of X || Magneto is such a fucking badass dude it's amazing ||
what's that one site with all the tws
trigger warnings
i wanna see if i can use it like a guife
to see what eps i can watch on the tv when people are home etc
also arcane soon :,)
Utopia s2 ep 1 || feel bad for little baby pietre ||
anyone here watched foundation?
was gonna ask what people thought about it
my dad was super excited to watch it cause he was a long time fan of the books and after 2 eps he came out and drank a whole glass of whisky cause it was so garbage


Lmaoo
I liked what I saw but I just wasn't interested enough
Hype
Dune is great
House of X/Powers of X
House of X/Powers of X || the life of Moira is one of my favourite issues in this series, just incredible storytelling ||
It is amazing
At issue 5 going slow
Just started Chang shi || super awkward start, they just met and decided to fuk? ||
Wok chap 36 || jasnah did some badass things with that soulcaster and shallan finally took it
really excited for her next chapter, will she leave now? Can’t wait to see
||
Buri has resuscitated
Would’ve read more yesterday if I wasn’t a dumbass that forgot his copy before sleeping at a relatives house
No I mean he got his name back from Arsal
o
I tried to read on computer but it sucked
Actually I am deleting that I don't trust Buri to not click
Arsal didn’t have my name 
Who did
Don al
I thought it was him given your name was "Arsal is my best friend" or something
Wasn't one of the mods playing around with it
That was just one of the mods changing it 
Smart choice
Especially when it has BURI DON'T CLICK written in all caps 😂😂
I didn’t click though I’m not that dumb
I don't believe that 😂😂
Well you may not be dumb
But I don't think you have the self control 😂😂
I just spoiled myself last night on chap 37 so you’re probably right
Going surprisingly good with avoiding spoilers
Helps that I’ve never even heard about this series until seeing people here talk about it a lot
this isnt a series but what is better to watch free guy or red notice?
MCU question ||Is it worth watching Shang-chi, even if you missed all the MCU movies post Endgame?||
Yeah
Wok chap 37 || great stuff from kal or should i say kaladins past as usual
can’t wait to see where it all goes wrong
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Watched the martian, it was really good, still prefer interstellar though
Yes, but there’s only two movies between Shang-Chi and Endgame, being Black Widow and Spider-Man, so you shouldn’t miss much in terms or how each film is connected
hold up whaaaa
However, i really recommend watching those two
Holy shit arcane act 2 blow act 1 away
i thought a lot of MCU movies came out after Endgame
No
how come
Because it’s only been 2 years? Also because of Covid?
wow.. 😮
No movies came out in 2020
I was thinking Disney + would've increased that more.
Wdym
all the original movies and series centered around MCU
i was sure it expanded a lot that way
man that's crazy,
and i saw like a lot of MCU movies planned in the future with Disney announcements and I'm like, i'm sure some of them came out by now.
but I guess it's that way huh
Several of them have been delayed
Had Covid never happened we’d be deep into Phase 4 by now
Eternals would’ve come out November 6, 2020
No Way Home would’ve come out in July

Arcane || cupcakes is caitlyn new name for me ||
what's your opinion on captain marvel
I’ll get right on it
Was boring but im kinda excited to see cap marvel 2
Kamala khan and monica rambeau gonna be in that 😩
Anyone watching Arcane?
Sly is i think
Doctor strange and guardians have had the longest time between sequels ☹️☹️☹️
what about loki? or Wanda vision? I still need to catch up on stuff after endgame
Eternals ||Karun the goat||
Theres been 4 shows and 4 movies since endgame
I needed that Agatha spin-off like yesterday
any order to watch them in?
Far From Home > Wandavision > Falcon and the Winter Soldier > Loki > Black Widow > What If > Shang Chi > Eternals is the order they came out
but it doesnt really matter that much

arcane 4-6 was nice
Was incredible
A few dollars more reusing the cast is confusing
I love || Caitlyn, vi interactions, guess the Fandom was correct to ship them long long ago || arcane
No one ever mentions how funny these serogio leeone movies are
@rich nimbus matrix 2 edit ||https://youtu.be/jpshTcIf-j0||
The Twins vs Morpheus with a lightsaber (and a laser gun) from The Matrix Reloaded..
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cupcake
Daaaaaaamn
Arcane Act 2 is crazy
Glad the character who has the same namesake as me got to be in this show 
|| she truly is a sweet cupcake, I've always thought she was a dick in the game || arcane
Yeah if you knew the lore, you always knew that would happen
I'm so happy we get to see everyone grow though
It's awesome
A few dollars more is amazing
No idea how The good the bad and the ugly can top it

Crazy how clint Eastwood was the coolest man alive
arcane ep 6|| viktor knowing singed is crazy, how many zaun character's lives has this man touched?||
I hope we get a Season 2
Why is everything about League so fucking good except the game?

!ptoo
Damn The Good, The bad, And the ugly is 3 hours long
hope its as well paced as Few dollars more cause otherwise ill die
if anyones interested in a movie on racial identity and controversy, Passing on Netflix is really good
Would have dune made a better series than a movie?
imo it could've been a good 8-10 episode 40 minute series to cover more background on movie 1
but idk tbh
I guess so
I hear the movie was mostly just the book highlights
As they couldn't fit everything
I never read the book but I watched the first dune and realized there were some stuff they added that wasn't in the remake despite covering more ground
Definitely
Considering the books and its rich storytelling dune would have made a lot more sense as a series
how was arcane 4-6 @sage sleet @nova zephyr
will i cry?
It does
I didn't, but that's just me so idk
Aiyoo spoiler that
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Ohh yeah it's crazy
YOOOOOOOOOOOO
which other cosmere do I read after WoR that isn't stormlight?
I don't know, I heard dawnshard and edgedancer are good reads but i dont know which one first
and they're related to stormlight in some way?
i forgot
yeah its definitely between those two
WoK > WoR > Edgedancer > Oathbringer > Dawnshard > RoW
They are both canon and kinda important to the main story
ima thank you as well even though it was meant for Shabab 🙂
what page are you on for WoR? @outer tulip
Yeah well, I can't reply to two messages simultaneously 😂😂
lol just joshingggg
uh I forget which page exactly... like 330-340
Also they are both stormlight
If you had wanted you should have read warbreaker after WoK
what's cosmere and not stormlight?
Can still read Warbreaker actually
I thought I had this understood
should have read warbreaker before WoR
oh, yeah Fed I got anxious to read what happens next
ohh I see, keep reading! Things pick up really soon and you're gonna binge :)
Cosmere is a bunch of series. Mistborn era 1 + era 2, elantris, warbreaker, some novellas, a graphic novel, and ofc stormlight as well
lol I suck at binge reading tbh.. but sometimes I do get excited to read multiple times aday
ahhhhhhhhhh
yeah I'm kinda like you too but have been "evolving" recently
hey is warbreaker part of stormlight?
I'm trying to consume everything in stormlight
so Aka what is Sanderson that isn't Cosmere?
They all take place on different planets so to speak, and the ones taking place on Roshar are the stormlight ones
There's skyward sword series which is sci-fi, he has some kids books as well I think
And he also wrote the ending of WoT based on the original author's notes
omg the upcoming amazon series?
omg that's soooo crazy. I'm surprised people here arent going bonkers
oh you didn't know that?
nope lol
that's how I started reading his books
Haven't read WoT myself
well I won't be reading in time for the series so I'll just watch it lol
and instantly gravitated towards his magnum opus: stormlight
okay Aka... sooooo does all the other cosmere series have the same power/magic system?
I want to read WoT someday but just don't feel like committing to a massive verse rn
That's why I picked Pratchett for now
Yeah I feel you, I'm going to read it 100% someday
after stormlight im gonna read all of LoTR
LoTR is shorter than a single stormlight book
can I ask why reading LoTR is better than watching the films?
Even if you count the Hobbit
🤣 yeah it's short I know
Aka, discworld is like 25 books 
the amount of praise for the lord of the rings is so crazy I can't wait to read it
The world is a lot more detailed, the characters are better ( at least imo) and the plot itself also has some significant differences
Gollum carries the whole cast
And then there's also Tolkien's songs and his flair with writing
enter-esting
yeah the reason I don't watch big fantasy adaptations is because I know the books are much better so I wait till i get the chance to read the books
There's so many songs in the book
of the movie?
Either probably lol
Yeah but don't need to read the whole of it
Guys is Warbreaker part of Roshar, Stormlight?
A lot of them are independent semi standalone books
and is it canon?
Cosmere
No but there's references fron warbreaker in WoR and OB
Important ones too
oh I see
And RoW too
yeah regardless I was going to read them anyways
Honestly I was so in love with LOTR growing up that I looked up literally everything about it as the movies were coming out... so i guess I pretty much read the books
because I'm the type of person who wants to consume it all and just understand everything
Do it before finishing WoR if you can, or at least before OB
You gonna miss good hype otherwise
okokok thanks
this helps
when do the references and stuff come into play in WoR?
im on page 550
don't stop WoR though... I can't see that as its so nonstop
yeah idk how i'll do it
Idk page number exactly, I will need to look ay the wiki lol
but i'm trying to get the best satisfaction out of the series
Should have started with the branch with Death 
and I want to know everything lol, plus I love stormlight
Actually the WoR references you might miss, they are pretty subtle
I started with publish order 🤷
but stopping WoR for Warbreaker seems like a huge interlude... and you'll just anticipate going back to the main book. I feel that's how I would be
I read on reddit what to start with and got confused and just went with 1st out 1st in
I'm committed to not starting OB until I do Warbreaker or one of the other ones
but there's no way I can stop WoR... its so fast paced
Definitely warbreaker
The other references are much much more subtle than warbreaker
Yeah I agree, idk how i'll do it
Warbreaker is very imp
important?
hmmm
Yeah
Like not thay you won't get the plot without warbreaker
But the extra background will make some things seem a lot more hype and insane
How many pages is it exactly?
If I say more I will be spoiling lol
how long is warbreaker
I havent read warbreaker still, and i finished stormlight
Around 700 I think?
700 isn't bad at all for stormlight
Fed be idiot, don't listen to fed
I want to feel that hype and satisfaction for WoR
Can you check when the warbreaker stuff kicks into WoR?
WoR I think you can just finish, but def don't start OB without warbreaker
Unless you fear that itnwill be too much and you will burn out and not be able to finish stormlight, definitely read warbreaker
idk if i can read 2 before starting OB... but what do you think?
WoR ending ||Hello there, would you like to destroy some evil today||
you don’t strictly need to read Warbreaker
edge and warbreaker?
before OB
can I click on this?
Yea
I never read Warbreaker
or is it serious
Did you
No
okay

I never read either
oh
ED is 1/5th the size of Warbreaker
yeah dont compare these books they're really different from what I know
that's a relief lol
I’ve only read the main stormlight books and mistborn in the cosmere
Main stormlight books are some 500k words
Its 45k lol
okay.. what if I read ED before OB cause its shorter and then read OB and WB at the same time?
Ehh either read WB before or just continue stormlight
Like we say WB isn't mandatory
It's just it gives awesome context for a few things in OB and RoW
If you read the first 3ish chapters of warbreaker you can at least figure out the references, i think (thsts what i did)
Yeah
Warbreaker/OB ||but then you don't get to see the relation between Viv, Vasher and Nightblood and don't understand their pasts and origins||
You guys don't click @waxen raft @outer tulip
Ye
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lol we haven't read any of it
Oathbringer/WB ||thoughts about best girl nightblood?||
The other books Elantris and Mistborn are just very minor subtle references that are kind of easy to miss so you don't need to read
yeah I know that
I just want to know everything in stormlight
and i heard elantris and mistborn stuff are really small and don't really matter
when referenced in stormlight
is mistborn partitioned into eras?
Well most just consider then 2 different series
mistborn definitely matters
it's gonna be the 2 pillars of the cosmere
stormlight and mistborn
gotcha
Yeah spice but not rn
I’ve probably already asked before(I definitely have) but at which stormlight book is starting mistborn recommended
They can finish RoW without reading Mistborn and not really miss on much
not for stormlight though (for now at least)
for the cosmere yes
for stormlight no
I kind of wanna start a VC at some time to just go over the ends and out of cosmere/stormlight and all that
Well, ideally you want to have read all of mistborn and secret history at least before RoW
I'll read all of mistborn after stormlight and LoTR though
cause sometimes I'm lost
whats VC?
Voice chat
yea I just realized yall are talking about stuff needed before reading stormlight
voice channel... to just talk it all through
not just before, but while reading too
tbh you don't really need to read anything else before stormlight but it would greatly enhance the experience
it's up to you
it's a lot of commitment
fair enough... like I think WoK is perfect to start
Yeaaaah, stormlight is heavy if you binge read it
so go at your own pace
I usually needed to sleep on it after finishing a book before it really sank in 😂😂
like with WoK you know literally nothing and they expect you to not know nothing
I'm committed to all of them, just trying to find the best experience for me as possible
if reading misborn enhances my experience for stormlight then...
What spice means - Don't be like Aka. Take your time. You don't need to finish a book a week.
shabab there is a graph with the recommended reading order
I have it somewhere here
do you want it
Honestly doesn't matter much before RoW except I think one reference in some epigraph somewhere
yea sure thanks
And that too not really immediately plot relevant
you can send that to me too if that's ok
I don't have ANYONE to talk to stormlight about, so this is really really nice to talk to you guys about it
cosmere reading order
can i click on it? it says spoiler
im on WoR page 550
if ur wondering
ye it's just book titles and arrows
Ping me/fed/spice when putting up stormlight talk, we always down for it xD
oh okay
yea click on it
I put spoilers because idk what are the rules about it
thanks :))
I must have pinged fed and spice like a hundred times when I was blitzing cosmere xD
the font size is too small spice
you need to click on view original


true 🙂
LOL
so seeing the flowchart Ima just adress the elephant in the room
WE HAVEN'T READ A PAGE OF MISTBORN!! lmao
yeah I heard so that's why I haven't been stressed about it
I said before but reading mistborn first made the whole experience a lot better
Except close to the ending of RoW ( idk if this counts as spoilers )
And even then it's just a small reference
nah dw
oh okay.. so its kinda just a recommendation and we can tie it together as we read
I think the way the we get to know more about the world/magic/etc flows better when reading mistborn first
Yeah
it was surprising to see how deep the rabbit hole goes
Same
so @copper phoenix @scenic frost this is a timeline or what?
it just kept getting deeper
but im trying to finish mistborn BEFORE it really connects to stormlight in some way, but as of rn I do know that they're very independent from each other
As brilliant as stormlight is, I am glad I started at mistborn
Mistborn also has the advantage of being a relatively normal sized series
right... but I'm also confused cause there's a phase 1 that's grouped at the top that is arrowing to stormlight (which is phase 2)... I'd think it makes more sense to read phase 1 before phase 2 but are the arrows suggesting elsewise?
So it's easier to get people to pick it up 😂😂
The dollars " trilogy || good bad and ugly is very clearly not a sequel yo either of these movies ||
Just ignore everything and try to follow the red arrows 😂😂
do you like mistborn more?
That's what I did eventually
yea the phases don't matter
Hard to say, stormlight has very strong recency bias
I definitely like stormlight more
Oh i see. Because I hear people saying Stormlight is much more deep and nuance
I read Mistborn like a couple of years ago or something
I mean idk if I can compare stormlight to anything
heard mistborn is really really good for what it is
stormlight is better in every aspect for me
but doesn't compare to stormlight
It's just so gigantic it blows everything out of the water
I do definitely like stormlight more, can't deny that
hold on hold on AKa... so the red arrow from warbreaker is pointing to WoR.. is that highly recommending I had read it before I started WoR? 👀
I do know that
Yea
mistborn is like the best in the college league
but stormlight is one of the best at the professional levels
if u were to compare it that way
it's not that big of a deal
but both are really really good for what they are
messing up the order
Theborder I followed was
Mistborn era 1 (couple years back) -> WoK (re-entry into cosmere) -> mistborn era 2 -> warbreaker -> rest of stormlight
but we're part of the people who do care about order
ok this is comforting
And honestly, the references are kind of hidden before you get to OB
And there's like
2 of them
1 of them is obvious, the other is hidden
wait and they're listing ED as "the next book" after WoR
is mistborn era 1, 1 book? or the first 3 books?
i see
bruh..... i did this all wrong
Noooo you didn't
oh so it's a whole different cast and thing? but same world and ramifications of the first era
noo dont overthink it
😢
Order Seriously doesn't matter much
Yea
pretty cool!
Dude nami Swan telling you, it's literally two sentences in a 1.5k page book that you missed
And they seriously don't matter until OB anyways
When it becomes a lot more obvious
we're just the ones who care about getting that full 100% enhanced experience, but don't worry it doesn't really do much. Don't overthink it
One of the two is so obscure fed/spice had to hint me towards it before I spotted it
In WoR
Well not obscure but it's not right in your face either
word yeah... im good it just sucks to think you were doing it right at first. But I'm cool with this new order fr
yup
as long as we read everything and dont like catastrophically mess up the order then we're fine
Don't mess up the order within mistborn if/when you get to it
the only way to catastrophically mess up the order in stormlight books published so far is by reading book 2 before 1
word I won't be doing that
or book 3 before 2
whats the order for mistborn?
don't touch secret history before finishing all the era 1 and era 2 books and don't not read it either
will keep in mind thanks
Publication order
alright
oh yea secret history is probably the only one you don't wanna mess up
it's awesome
surprised one man connects all of this and created it all. Good job on him
seriously its so genius
but i mean oda did create one piece, pratchet discworld, tolkien middle-earth
middle earth and OP verse are impressive too ngl
but all these authors are on that highest level of writing and world buildings
Secret history/cosmere overall ||Rn secret history is the keystone if the whole or cosmere is an arch. Its binding everything together, and it's got Kelsier to boot
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Also don't even read a preview of Era 2 before reading Era 1 or you're gonna totally ruin the ending
Of Era 1
We're fucking lucky as hell to be alive and read so many great stories and worlds, so many characters in this day and age
these writers have reached that highest level
I think it's only possible to surpass them in specific aspects, but overall I think they're all at that highest degree
it's just really awesome we get to experience their work
yeah definitely.. I like to think many of us have the imagination and creativity to come up with something "fascinating" but what blows my mind is the articulation. Truly talented authors
I need more cosmere lore 
Yeah for real
it's decades until dragonsteel
no, it's probably going to the the closing act so it will come after everything else is finished
ye he has a ton of interviews/Q&A and often releases tidbits and teases new stuff
I can't really tell you without spoiling other stuff so just finish things first
ah I see
okay
Alright well really nice talking to you guys about stormlight
Gonna do my homework now

Wok chap 39 || man shallans story keeps getting more interesting every chapter i have no idea whats gonna happen ||
Thought the third Mistborn trilogy would be what closes the whole cosmere
Dragonsteel is a ||Hoid prequel|| iirc
@sage sleet looks like I'll have to wait until next month to see Ron's unless I watch it in theaters lol
Ecstasy of gold 
Fistful of Dollars, a few dollars more, and the good the bad and the ugly || these 3 movies are clearly not a real trilogy but i love them all either way. greatest reveal in any movie when clint puts on the poncho at the end of Bad and ugly, I realized the moment he was handed the outfit by Mortimer that it was his outfit but couldnt find the poncho. ||
crazy how well paced all 3 of these movies are but especially The good the bad and the ugly
an hour would go by without me noticing
i havent watched any of the 3 although i had heard of the last one, but there was a reddit thread recently about "What trilogy has the worst movie as the starting movie" and that was one of the popular answers
i can kind of agree with that
its in no way a bad movie but it had a 200k budget and an inexperienced creator who stole the plot from another movie
while the other 2 have experience and money behind them
The Harder They Fall was fun
Love that movie
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lemme check... one sec
@sinful vessel disregard that... I got bamboozled

sry lmao... some people think that mention is NWH trailer though
eww.. why everything gotta be in LA.. they raggedy out there
Is the X-Men 97 announcement taking place after this series?
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