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foggy mirage
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Not according to literal word of god

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@sage remnant

sage remnant
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Yeah well idc what the author says outside the original work

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I have the same opinion on SBS

foggy mirage
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Its just a bad explanation

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So not really suprised

sage remnant
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For me the explaination I had while watching is far better than the shitty one the author gave

foggy mirage
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Sadly headcanon can't save this one

sage remnant
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Just basic reading between the lines which gave a satisfying answer

foggy mirage
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Not really if its not intended

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You just seeing what you want to

sage remnant
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Death of the author

foggy mirage
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So it doesn't break

sage remnant
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I don't care what the author wanted if it isn't outright in the text or media

foggy mirage
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Like yeah if you imagine your car is a Bugatti thats nice

sage remnant
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It's literally not that?

foggy mirage
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Doesn't mean your 1996 honda is a Bugatti

sage remnant
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I don't care what the author says outside of their work

foggy mirage
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You just told me you imagined an answer

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To something that clearly has none

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And agaisnt what the author intended

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Its pure fabrication

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And headcanon

sage remnant
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I told its a valid answer that makes sense in the context of the story

foggy mirage
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If you can't see the issue with that

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You aren't engaging with it properly

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There's nitpicking

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And theres just using headcanon to patch plot holes

sage remnant
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  1. Authorial intention has no say in how I perceive the story. It's the story I engage with
  2. I gave an explaination which the story content doesn't refute
foggy mirage
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Don't really see the merit in using imagination to make your experience coherent due to mistakes from an author

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Just because you imagined a solution doesnt make the problem go away

sage remnant
modern lichen
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The Duffer Brothers say Hopper and Joyce realized they went to high school with Henry/Vecna off-screen
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"We had a walk a fine line with the play — we don’t want to frustrate, because so much of our audience is unable to see it. To have them start talking about it would have been confusing in the context of someone who hasn’t seen the play. But I’m sure they did have that conversation”
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(via @Variety)

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foggy mirage
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Im saying its just flawed from the onset

sage remnant
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Why would I care what the author says outside the series

foggy mirage
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Nothing else

sage remnant
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It's not.

foggy mirage
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You keep trying to validate it to me

sage remnant
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Death of the Author is just literally one of the most oldest trick in literary analysis

foggy mirage
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😭

potent zenith
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Pluribus ep 3 ||its funny watching how absolutely awful carol is. She's so self centered its crazy QueenKEKW killing millions of people because she can't control her emotions, and now wasting a fuck ton of food just to have "her sprouts" back KEKL ||

sage remnant
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Apparently those stuff were revealed in the Broadway Play

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Which is idk non canon to me. Should have had them with main series

foggy mirage
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You can just imagine a better backstory

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Play isn't needed

sage remnant
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Play content isn't packaged with the actual show

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so who cares what it has

foggy mirage
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He has to be making stuff up

sage remnant
modern lichen
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I don’t care about what they say outside the actual material of the show either but these interviews are hilarious

sage remnant
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They are

modern lichen
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Especially since the Duffers are seemingly incompetent writers who don’t know what they’re talking about

foggy mirage
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S1 was a fluke

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That much is clear

sage remnant
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I think they nailed the emotional beats in finale but every season has been increasingly worse since s1

modern lichen
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S1 isn’t a fluke, that’s the problem

fierce cedar
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Chungking Express || Just finished watching this, I liked the movie but the first policeman's story was much shorter than the second one, kind of threw me off. The cinematography was really nice and the music choices was really good as well. IMO, wish the beginning was better but I really enjoyed the story of the restaurant worker and the second policeman ||

modern lichen
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They nailed it pretty well in S1 and then had to make up shit to keep piling until it just fell apart

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The first season is a pretty one and done story all things considered

sage remnant
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They searched for the smallest thread they could expand from each season

modern lichen
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The success of it made them greedy

sage remnant
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and then expanded on it in next

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and it progressively got worse

potent zenith
# sage remnant Pluribus ep 3 || what Happened in this ep ||

Pluribus ep 3 ||flash back of carol being unbearable while on vacation with helen, carol is unbearable when home, starving herself out of protest; carol asks them to put back all the food in a grocery store so she can feel comfortable and "independent" again. Just wasting food after They said it was to increase efficiency and to not be wasteful||

sage remnant
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Right

modern lichen
sage remnant
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Pretty Little Liars ahh post ending interview scene

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fix it interviews making shit worse

sturdy tundra
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Stranger Things || Ya know, I hear that the show was referencing montauk, a place thats only a few hours away from me, specifically the radio tower thats at camp hero. Something about project MK Ultra possibly being done there. Honestly its a really nice beach side region with a cute shoreline, great place to go birding, I wanna find a bird called a razorbill there||

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Image isnt a spoiler for the show or actually has anything to do with it, but figure its good to put it anyway.

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Beautiful place tho, nice to take a morning trip to when theres no traffic from the city folk

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This is what people actually probably think of with the show tho (just an irl picture of the region)

sage remnant
sturdy tundra
# sage remnant ST || this is where the upside down was created! ||

ST || Oh cool, little history for the actual place, this is the camp hero radio tower that was used to protect New York and the Atlantic from Soviet invasion! A lot of the theories span from Project Montauk/MKUltra which was the conspiracy that the US government used/tested psychedelics and their effectiveness in warfare!||

sage remnant
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ST ||yeah I know about MK Ultra ||

sturdy tundra
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That and the monster (cant show the actual image cause of nsfw for the server)

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Not ST related

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Gonna head back out soon there, need to find my self some oceanic birds to photograph

frank rivet
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Oh pitt season 2 is next week

sage remnant
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peak incoming

modern lichen
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real peak

copper phoenix
copper phoenix
raw gate
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Using your imagination is a core component of any experience with art

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Idk how it applies to the context of Stranger Things but that comment is really funny

copper phoenix
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you can imagine where this is going

raw gate
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I can, you’re right

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Tis the beauty of having a brain

copper phoenix
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ok so that means I wrote the story

sage remnant
raw gate
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You conceptualized enough for another person to put their own pieces in place but you didn’t write a story

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Of course it’s you arguing against using cognitive abilities to fill in gaps for a story or writer

sage remnant
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A writer's words outside of his work about his work has no merit for md

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if you have smth to say, incorporate it into the story

copper phoenix
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thats also really cringe

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gaps in a story only work when you can fill them by extrapolating from canon information

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if you have to write the story for the author then its a shit story

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death of the author is usually just a tool to cope with a shitty story

sage remnant
copper phoenix
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not every hole in the story is something planned

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you can fill literally ever hole in a story if you try hard enough but does that make any better?

sage remnant
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There's obv matter of how far one can go until it becomes a reach

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There's a matter of headcanon vs just filling in the obvious things

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But by the metric you were establishing, it would make sublety in story irrelevant

copper phoenix
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when its about garbage shit its almost always headcanon

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and since we're talking about stranger things

sage remnant
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Because anything that the story isn't blatantly saying would be "headcanon" than just engaging with story at any level below the surface

copper phoenix
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do you think stranger things is the kind of story where it has incredibly deep subtext at every corner

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there is no reading between the lines there

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its presented as it is

tawny parcel
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Just like stormlight
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copper phoenix
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yes stormlight is very straightforward too

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but its a good story so we dont need to claim death of the author to cope with some shit ass reveal

tawny parcel
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I was just baiting but

sage remnant
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for me ST doesn't

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but for some it might

tawny parcel
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I think that’s true to an extent

copper phoenix
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and the readers are wrong so whats new

sage remnant
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Take a story where the author has layers of shit.
Say its published and people read it and majority only engage with it in surface level.
Then that story wouldn't have any subtext for the majority, irrelevant of what the author's intention was

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even the most famous and poignant pieces of literature wouldn't be appreciated if the majority of the readers ignore the shit its trying to tell

sage remnant
tawny parcel
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I have nothing to learn I am a genius

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Do i read a chapter before bed or watch a youtube video

copper phoenix
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again I'm not talking about actual literature I'm talking about stranger things since that is the context of the conversation here

copper phoenix
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I dont care if some people will watch spongebob and find hundreds of hidden comments on philosophy and human nature

sage remnant
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which is assigned by the readers

copper phoenix
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absolutely not

sage remnant
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Absolutely yes

copper phoenix
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viewing every work of art under the same lenses is an actual disservice to the real artists

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also if that was a common sentiment then we wouldh't have the current ai slop discourse

sage remnant
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Don't move the goalpost

copper phoenix
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you just said its assigned by people who consume it

sage remnant
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How do you assign real work of art?
Just the works that some majority of people called "super good" once upon a time?

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Cuz that's how the works that have literary merit got their.literary merit

copper phoenix
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if you think ai is not art is your choice but its my choice to not consider stranger things on the same level as actual art too

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so yeas not every work of art has the same merit

sage remnant
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AI art is literally not art cuz it doesn't have the human factor in every decision of the art, in various choices the way any work of art has

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It's giving instructions to a black box which then does the statistical stuff in multiple passes to generate pixels

copper phoenix
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you ever heard of a digital camera

sage remnant
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I think you are just broadening shit unnecessary and adding different categories than what we are discussing

copper phoenix
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anyway I dont really care if you think ai is art or not, thats not my point

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you're the one going on tangents lmao

sage remnant
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???

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You literally mentioned AI arts

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I just mentioned any work of art has its value set by its reader/viewer

copper phoenix
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because you mentioned its assigned by the readers/watchers/consumers so if some people think ai is art its their choice and we should respect it no?

sage remnant
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It's a massively different thing man

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Don't move goalpost

tired hearth
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bro pro AI art in any situation ever is low iq baiting strats

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thats all this is

sage remnant
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If animal farm was written now, and every audience who read it said "bro its headcanon" to any depth the reader tried to explore in the story

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it wouldn't get the status it had gotten

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Would any depth any author put in the story matter if none of the readers engaged with it at that level and the author didn't have any avenue to express what they did?

copper phoenix
sage remnant
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There's no right and wrong side is what I mean

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Each work of art connects with different people differently

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if some reader found depth in animal farm and 99% of the earth disagreed, then does that remove any depth Animal farm had?

copper phoenix
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and I'm the one moving goal posts

sage remnant
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How so

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I said literally value of each work is assigned by the reader

sage remnant
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Because each work of.art connectd with different people differently, the value they asskgn to each work is different

copper phoenix
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this conversation was about using death of the author fill gaps in a story, just because some people view that piece of work different doesnt erase all the blatant issues it has

sage remnant
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Issues aren't objective

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It's subjective

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For the Stranger things, the most obvious explaination is smth you come up with in like 2 seconds of watching that part

What Duffer.brothers said is irrelevant

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They don't have a say after their work is out to public

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(in Death of the Author sense)

copper phoenix
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what did the author say anyway

sage remnant
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Idrk man. Who cares about ST

copper phoenix
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yea actually

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also sometimes the most obvious explanation aren't the canon ones

sage remnant
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I just had issues with calling engaging with media beyond what's spoonfed as headcanon and rolled with it

copper phoenix
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thats why we have plot twists

sage remnant
copper phoenix
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anyway that sort of stuff almost always happens when a piece of media is dogwater

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you can always count of that happening

sage remnant
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One man's treasure is another man's trash

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I just engage with the person who views my trash as treasure and if I get a new perspective from them, that trash also becomes my treasure

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(hasn't happened yet)

copper phoenix
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this should be a command

sage remnant
# copper phoenix

I so agree with this but probably not in the sense the original tweet implied

copper phoenix
sage remnant
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Nah.

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I like OP

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how am I a contrarian

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The only contrarian-esque opinion I have had recently is not liking Pluribus as much

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(which literally EVERY other place and my irl friends I have talked the show with agreed)

copper phoenix
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didn't you like stranger things s5 more than the others

sage remnant
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No?

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Only more than s4

copper phoenix
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yea that checks out

sage remnant
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9/10 -> 6/10 -> 5/10 -> 2/10 -> 4/10

raw gate
sage remnant
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It might be. What I filled in while watching is a better explanation that's not refuted by the show

raw gate
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I agree with your form of engagement. The problem is if the writers came out and confirmed something to be contrary to your ideas for the show. In which case, even if your idea is better than the writer’s solution, it still wouldn’t be the reality

sage remnant
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not what the writers said

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Why put any value to what the writers say outside of the work regarding that work?

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The intention doesn't matter if its not reflected in the show

copper phoenix
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I guess ur not a fan of sbs

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or vivre cards

sage remnant
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We already argued this in also manga Spice

copper phoenix
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I dont like external sources either but im not gonna argue against them

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ill just call oda stupid and move on

sage remnant
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Vivre card no
SBS someone was on the verge of convincing me with the reason that they are packaged in the volume and hence the final work would have both. But I hadn't fully been convinced so idk what my stance on that is

copper phoenix
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idk man I think once you reach the point where you gotta do mental gymnastics to decide of something is canon or not then its already over for you

sage remnant
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No

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😎

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Main work canon

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Outside work non canon

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SBS is the only case where its still kinda main work

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Otherwise its a flawless rule that worked every time

main lion
sage remnant
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I just don't consider anything outside of original media

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So like I can enjoy SBS

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but like I don't bring SBS to have weight on narrative or discussion around narrative

main lion
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Hmmm. Idk. That feels kinda like just going “LALALALLALA I CANT HEAAAAR YOU LALLALALA”

sage remnant
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It's just
If its important, incorporate it into main narrative

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If its not important, then it can be mentioned outside and hence has no weight on the discussion of actual narrative

main lion
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How do you feel about series including extra content as one shots? It being drawn art makes it different than a verbal statement in an sbs (which even makes its way into volumes)

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?

sage remnant
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like

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Bleach Can't fear your own world has no bearing on what I talk about in actual narrative

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It's extra content and extra story which exist

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Let's move this to os since its reached OS territory

sage remnant
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Damn I broke Rei

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😭

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Bro typed for 1 hour

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And then replied with Dunno

raw gate
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Yeah I’m not sure why I even try to properly articulate myself while I’m at work lol

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It’s literally impossible and frustrating

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Also, it’s a frustrating argument in general

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It’s easier to just agree with you

sage remnant
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Yeah

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😎

raw gate
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Cause you’re right that it’s fucking stupid for them to confirm something about the story on social media

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And it doesn’t matter what they have to say about the series outside of the confines of the work itself

sage remnant
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Even if what they tell is good or bad, it just looks bad for them

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if they tell smth which is amazing, it looks bad on them for not being able to tell them on actual story (Pretty Little Liars)

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If they tell smth which is terrible, it looks bad on them for being stupid (Stranger things)

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I don't even remember what Pretty Little Liars post ending Interview had said. I just remember it being an opposite but similar case to this

raw gate
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It’s not your fault

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I’m just very hesitant to send messages that aren’t entirely accurate to the meaning I want to convey

sage remnant
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I almost never am able to do that on Discord

raw gate
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And in conversations like this one, it’s very easy to make short sighted comments

sage remnant
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I do that a lot

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then like rectify my mistakes and convo go endless

modern lichen
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I just openly say this shit is stupid and move on

sage remnant
modern lichen
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finished wicked 2 finally and then watched nuremberg

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both bad

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wicked 2 is particularly dogshit

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all stinkers

sage remnant
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tv shows in letterboxd?

modern lichen
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there are miniseries

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but this is just the finale

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as a separate thing

sage remnant
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oh yeah they had released it in theatre or w/e

modern lichen
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yep

foggy mirage
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Hopefully you watch something you actually like

sage remnant
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Housemaid is out. Gonna be peak LETSBUGGINGGO

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/s

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tho fr. have seen people compare it to Gone Girl, which I remember enjoying

foggy mirage
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Not on my radar

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Due to the cast

sage remnant
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Sydney?

foggy mirage
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Yeah

main lion
sage remnant
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That's the only english movie I see coming in cinemas here for a while

foggy mirage
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I'm trying to watch lake mungo

sage remnant
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and the others being like Anaconda (meh) and Spongebob movie

foggy mirage
main lion
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Theres a new anaconda?

sage remnant
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Jack Black movie

foggy mirage
sage remnant
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oh it was an old movie too?

foggy mirage
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Yeah

sage remnant
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didn't know it was a remake thingy lol

foggy mirage
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Pseudo remake

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But yeah practically

sage remnant
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How's 20 Years Later series

main lion
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Yeah its a silly movie lol

sage remnant
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given the new movie is part of a series or w/e?

foggy mirage
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I enjoyed the first one a lot

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Looking foward to bone temple

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I left the theater smiling so I think I was part of the audience they wanted

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😭

foggy mirage
sage remnant
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what kind of movie is it

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and what should I watch or w/e

foggy mirage
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Its a post apocalyptic medieval vibe

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I do recommend it

sage remnant
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@modern lichen any good upcoming Hindi movie?

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for jan

foggy mirage
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He recommend us all one

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But idk if it dropped already

sage remnant
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Dhurandhar?

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already watched it

foggy mirage
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Yeah that one

sage remnant
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It's v good

foggy mirage
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I dint know it was out

sage remnant
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it takes time to setup the pieces

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and some portion of those feel p jarring too

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but once it's done, the pieces click and it just is so so so good

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I see a Salman movie, Border 2

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both meh

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Ikkis looks okay

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Might watch it just due to it being final Dharmendra performance. Rest in Peace

foggy mirage
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I'm not as experienced when it comes to foreign films

sage remnant
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Dharmendra is like among the biggest and oldest star here

young compass
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dharmendra died?

sage remnant
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yea

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late November

young compass
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damn

foggy mirage
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Only asking because it feels like a lot of overseas folks chat in this channel

sage remnant
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I think only me and Harsh are overseas people among the ones who are very active here

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Vady's from Egypt but he's not as active nowadays

young compass
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wombat is basically australian

sage remnant
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He's literally from US tho

young compass
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in terms of his intangible qualities

foggy mirage
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Is there a method I missed ?

sage remnant
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ooo there's a Rebecca Ferguson movie cominig

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In the near future, a detective (Chris Pratt) stands on trial accused of murdering his wife. He has 90 minutes to prove his innocence to the advanced A.I. Judge (Rebecca Ferguson) he once championed, before it determines his fate.

Chris Pratt on a serious role???

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Interesting premise but Idk if they can make it well

sage remnant
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good?

foggy mirage
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It looks eh ngl

sage remnant
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sadge

foggy mirage
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Rebecca carrying that movie

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Is my guess

sage remnant
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wasting Rebecca Ferguson isn't a good choice

foggy mirage
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Pratt is not the best co star

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From what I've seen

sage remnant
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I don't think I have seen pratt in anything outside Marvel and Parks and rec

foggy mirage
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Literally only reason I was interested is Rebecca

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😭

sage remnant
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when am I gonna get that First Law adaptation starring Rebecca Ferguson

foggy mirage
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Reminds me of minority report

valid thunder
sage remnant
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they did such a good casting choice with Rebecca Ferguson for that role

modern lichen
foggy mirage
sage remnant
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and 0 development after that

lone bay
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R&M || man what this show does best is disillusionment. they reall know how to ruin everything and hammer in nihlisim in a funny way. i know people like to shit on it because of the fans and roiland, but this is geneuinely good material ||

valid thunder
sage remnant
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did it

foggy mirage
lone bay
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i always forget this channel has users LUL

modern lichen
foggy mirage
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I guess i miss the good stuff

valid thunder
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In the ama he said its in production hell or smth

foggy mirage
modern lichen
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I talk about stuff that’s bad and also popular

valid thunder
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Probably bsc tho

sage remnant
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Devils is being adapted by Cameron

foggy mirage
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Really ?

sage remnant
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apparently Cameron met with him and talked in great deal about how he's a big fan of his books and etc

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like to the very specific

valid thunder
sage remnant
# foggy mirage Really ?

So
 James Cameron, he of Terminator, Aliens, Titanic, and Avatar, yes, that James Cameron, has acquired the screen rights to The Devils. Here’s the full press release: LIGHTSTORM ANNOUNCES THE ACQUISITION OF JOE ABERCROMBIE’S THE DEVILS LOS ANGELES, CA (June 2, 2025) – James Cameron announces that his company, Lightstorm, has purchased J...

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Probably gonna do like Alita

foggy mirage
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Never seeing alita

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Again

sage remnant
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get someone he trusts to direct

valid thunder
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If he does it himself

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It will probably be after avatar 5

sage remnant
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then it's never being made

valid thunder
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Yea

foggy mirage
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After avatar 5

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Yeah not happening

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He's definitely just doing these

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Till he retires

sage remnant
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yeah he's gonna get someone else to direct it

foggy mirage
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Even with the best estimates of 2-3 years

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Per the next two

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He's gonna be pushing 80

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Idk if he has the spielberg juice

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To deliver a final one pre 80

foggy mirage
sage remnant
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The Devils?

foggy mirage
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And going through before it shows up as movie

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This reads development hell

sage remnant
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or Best Served Cold

foggy mirage
sage remnant
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Best Served Cold is part of First Law Universe

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and like standalone set after main trilogy (tho you can read it at anytime contrary to what @valid thunder says)

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the order would be
First Law trilogy -> the Standalones -> Age of Madness Trilogy btw

foggy mirage
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Fantasy authors and these trilogy names always get a bit tricky

sage remnant
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The Devils is a separate entry

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not part of First Law Universe

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and not really in the style of it either

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First Law is more gritty, grimdark

foggy mirage
sage remnant
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entirely different thing

foggy mirage
# sage remnant no

Its just when you said separate entry i assumed it was the same universe.

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Just the wording of it

sage remnant
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my bad

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but yeah you'll like it

foggy mirage
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Its all good but I'll have to check this out

sage remnant
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First Law universe atleast

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It's more grounded on fantasy side like ASOIAF

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and he writes character and gives them voice really well

copper phoenix
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league of legends cooked his brain

modern lichen
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Look bro I’ve been talking about good things but no one engages with me

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So saying “I only talk about bad things” is not fair I only talk about things that are bad and also popular

sage remnant
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which are the last two things I remember you talking positively about

copper phoenix
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the west has fallen

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yall see the news netflix is already looking at shorted theater windows for their releases post wb buyout

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frogs are being boiled

modern lichen
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@mild seal campaign 4 has been so good, you caught up?

mild seal
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nah not really

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been too depressed to focus on something that big

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CR C4 ||I think the last episode I saw, that one wizard's family came in with ghouls and were gonna put that relic inside him||

modern lichen
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CR C4 ||oh you didnt finish the overture||

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fair enough

mild seal
#

ya

frank rivet
#

@mild seal don't lie to me, are you going to watch the Street Fighter movie

mild seal
#

not in theaters

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its also not gonna get my money

frank rivet
#

FujiKEK Ofcourse in theaters gang

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mortal kombat probably not in theaters for me

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honestly been watching ghostbusters again, i'm down for some good old 80s-90s cheesy. I just wish they didn't pick The worst fucking actors and got some new comedians 😭

young compass
#

like league of legends

half steeple
#

At some point you have to wonder who really wrote ts

modern lichen
#

the ghostwriters are gone

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so the duffers had to write by themselves

half steeple
#

Exactly

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Its the only explanation I can think of as to why a show starts off strong and then ends horribly

frank rivet
#

It would have been easier to just say we ran out of budget

frank rivet
half steeple
#

WAKE ME UP

#

SAVE MEEEEEEEE

sage remnant
#

@young compass the Mariko convo reminded me
what did you think of A Little Life

young compass
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see spice it's not my fault

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i get pinged asking if i like a little life

#

do you want me to just lie

sage remnant
#

I know the answer. But it's fun to hear it from you

obsidian basalt
#

WoT book 11 end || definitely the best book in a while, hopefully we can carry the momentum into brandon's books. anyway idk how on earth we're gonna deal with taim bro's a menace ||

sage remnant
#

It just gets better

obsidian basalt
#

it better get better for the suffering to be worth it

sage remnant
#

I think other than one part in the final book (which I liked) you would really enjoy it

modern lichen
#

ooh nice

sage remnant
#

grimm's fairy tales

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book editions so good they making me wanna learn spanish

valid thunder
#

Damn the third one is nice

sage remnant
#

that's a good one

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damn 0/6 for Lovecraft

rich meadow
#

So nice

sage remnant
#

and this...

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atleast Dream Cycle and Dagon look okay...

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sooo good

rich meadow
#

With that cover it’d be even better


sage remnant
#

you know spanish? KizaruPog

rich meadow
#

Nope

sage remnant
#

Tho that Family Happiness and Snowstorm cover are soo good

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uhhhhhh

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whyyyy

limber urchin
sage remnant
#

LITERALLY 1984 IN HERE

limber urchin
#

not edited by the way, this is the version I got from the bookstore.

sage remnant
#

Those Spaniards know ball

sage remnant
#

had expected better from folio

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this is good

limber urchin
sage remnant
#

Not limited edition

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but also probably the art inside and etc weren't as good for the high price

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and look at this

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perfect

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We have always lived in the castle. Wow

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man in the high castle

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A clash of Kings. Not really a fan of the cover but that midbook splash page. Damn

sage remnant
#

which is like great and 105 pound

half steeple
sage remnant
#

in price

half steeple
#

Yes

sage remnant
#

folio society does a lot of limited edition of 400-500 pound

half steeple
#

Good Lord

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The book better read to me itself at that price😭

limber urchin
foggy mirage
# frank rivet LMAO <@249591172559929354> <@1190025057901215754> ST END - || https://vxtwitter...

Nah they have to be trolling. ST END @half steeple ||https://fxtwitter.com/i/status/2007411554732687684||

Duffer brothers when you ask them ANYTHING about the show:

Quoting Stranger Things Memes (@SThingsMeme)

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near echo
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@young compass dude Mickey 17 sucked so bad it actually pissed me off

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Finally saw it

tawny parcel
valid thunder
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who buys ts

tawny parcel
#

Unfocused but i thought robert had an awesome performance

near echo
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Mickey 17 ||he's the best part of the movie but I did have trouble viewing the different clones of him as the same character with different (idk a better way to phrase this) character builder stat spreads. He played em so differently down to even the physical ticks and intonation.||

tawny parcel
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Mickey 17|| I know it was crazy you could tell which was which just from his body language ||

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Totally agree on it being the best part

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Mickey 17|| i think mark ruffalo was kinda overdoing it, but its still fun||

near echo
tawny parcel
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I think i get what you mean

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What pissed you off about it lol

near echo
#

Everything else in that movie lol
Hated it almost top to bottom, ||its like this cross section of Marvelisms and Wannabe Terry Gilliam wrapped in bad political satire that intrinsically drives me insane||

copper phoenix
half steeple
copper phoenix
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d&d and duffel brothers

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the 4 Ds

foggy mirage
copper phoenix
#

the ghost writers left after s1

half steeple
#

Is that Björk?

half steeple
foggy mirage
half steeple
#

Ghostwriters are the only explanation for how these shows start off so strong then just shrivel up

foggy mirage
#

Its also s5 of a popular show

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They could have written anything

half steeple
#

Yea i dont expect it to be perfect ya know?

But damn

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ST End || Vickie just disappearing after finding out that aliens essentially exist and almost tore up her hometown with no wrap up is wild||

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ST End ||Nvm the whole relationship she was in||

foggy mirage
foggy mirage
half steeple
half steeple
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ST End ||At least one scene of them being detained and let go because "we cant let this get out to the public" was out of tje budget ig||

foggy mirage
foggy mirage
copper phoenix
half steeple
copper phoenix
#

st end || her coming out scene was also very good compared to his forced bs ||

half steeple
copper phoenix
#

she got mad shafted

foggy mirage
#

St end ||Dustin and will are the only ones with any though to their endings i feel. Besides the young adult gang.||

valid thunder
#

It looks like s5 isnt worth watching

copper phoenix
#

I onlt watched the first part

foggy mirage
half steeple
copper phoenix
#

already knew it was gonna suck so I dndt even bother

half steeple
foggy mirage
valid thunder
#

Didnt watch anything else

#

He called it peak fiction đŸ„€

foggy mirage
half steeple
copper phoenix
foggy mirage
foggy mirage
# half steeple I agree completely

St end ||jonathan dint do anything to traumatize Nancy and neither did she to him outside getting them fired that one time. And that's something id be angry at my partner for..maybe a week or 3 at most.||

half steeple
foggy mirage
half steeple
foggy mirage
frank rivet
#

internet has become so shit 😭

main lion
#

we got netflix adult swim before gta6

near echo
#

That thing is probably poison

frank rivet
#

is it adult swim?

frank rivet
#

i thought we already had adult swim on netflix, this seems more like Netflix OF 😭

near echo
#

Kpop Demon Hunters brought too many kids into the ecosystem

frank rivet
#

lol so whats a better way to keep them

#

than to get them addicted to đŸŒœ 😭

#

this is terrible all around

foggy mirage
#

Oh Netflix tweaking out

frank rivet
#

they trying to recoup the cost of that WB purchase

#

speaking of which @foggy mirage they only want to do 17 day Theatrical windows 😭
Dune is cooked 😭

worthy crypt
#

i dont think its all that cynical i imagine your ability to restrict a kid on netflix will be much easier than restricting a kid on the general internet

frank rivet
#

i actually think the way netflix moving is a bit predatory. They are creating verticals off their huge platform and undercutting other industries. They already took a big chunk of Crunchyroll in the past two years based on marketshare metrics.

worthy crypt
#

sure all that for sure, i just dont think getting kids hooked on adult content is the angle

frank rivet
#

nah that i understand, i just meant that as a comment towards the Kpop demon hunters thing

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but i think the bigger problem is this is still bad 😭

worthy crypt
#

i pay so much goddamn money to netflix to have my whole family on there

#

im hoping i wont have to pay for hbo anymore but i doubt it

frank rivet
#

what ever your paying for HBO

#

will be integrated into netflix cost in about 1-2 years

#

you can book that for sure

worthy crypt
#

yeah the hope is i get it for free or at least less money than the sum im already paying but probably wont happen

frank rivet
#

initially you will

foggy mirage
#

Yeah paying for Netflix

#

Yeah

worthy crypt
#

if it does come for free then i save like 17 bucks a month or whatever hbo is

frank rivet
#

i remember when Netflix use to cost $10 😭

#

that was only 2 years ago 😭

foggy mirage
#

If not 40

frank rivet
#

standard will most likely be premium after HBO

#

and Premium will be $40

worthy crypt
#

having my whole family on there is 47 goddamn dollars

frank rivet
#

lol ofcourse 😉

#

not ! would never do such a thing PuddingWink

foggy mirage
#

We all pay for our subs

worthy crypt
#

im the sucker paying for mine to support the ecosystem enough so others can pirate and its fine

worthy crypt
#

if i ever get laid off i might reconsider but as long as i got a good job i feel like i gotta

copper phoenix
frank rivet
#

Lol wtf

toxic pebble
sage remnant
foggy mirage
#

Yeah idk how he writes that fast

outer tulip
foggy mirage
#

@half steeple @frank rivet @limber urchin real peak news

foggy mirage
#

The finale just happened

#

And he doesnt want to dip

sage remnant
#

I really find people to be overhating on ST finale, but like this is insane to even me lmao

foggy mirage
#

But would have been insane

#

His agents can rest easy

#

Well not easy they gotta find him new work

potent zenith
#

Pluribus ep 6 ||Carol is so fucking dumb. She just rages, doesnt listen, and never asks what the one piece is scrajj ||

sage remnant
#

but ot wouldn't surprise me if it was true

potent zenith
#

Pluribus ep 7 ||this is a fucking ad angrypanda ||

copper phoenix
potent zenith
sage sleet
#

Watching the Batman and I’m fucking throwing up

frank rivet
#

😭 you don't like it

main lion
potent zenith
foggy mirage
main lion
#

watch your fucking mouth

modern lichen
#

he loves it

tawny parcel
#

A confederacy of dunces ch 5 ||igneous is too funny man, so crazy to think this book came out in 1980. Dude nailed the neckbeard/incel archetype ||

#

Real shame the author was never able to write anything else

sage sleet
#

But I meant

#

I NEED PATTINSON AS DCU BATMAN

#

The Batman is in my top 5 movies easily

main lion
#

@foggy mirage get his ass

sage sleet
#

I best not see Nate Mann or ballsack skarner or whatever his name is as my Batman

#

Fucking rat men

foggy mirage
#

So get that out your head immediately

#

I feel bad for dcu batman people gonna be screaming at them like crazy

#

Dc schedule this year

main lion
sage sleet
#

Ik it 99.9% won’t happen

#

Still want it

foggy mirage
#

100%

#

Would be more accurate

sage sleet
#

I just really don’t want those 2 actors

main lion
#

Im not even arguing whether it will or wont

#

it SHOULDNT

foggy mirage
#

Remember people here asking

#

Constantly

#

If he was gonna show up

sage sleet
#

Where

foggy mirage
#

Here

#

Literally here

sage sleet
#

No I mean

#

Show up where

foggy mirage
#

In superman

sage sleet
#

Lmao

foggy mirage
#

Or that he'd be in peacemaker for some random reason

sage sleet
#

Superman I coulda possibly seen as an end credit

#

Diner thing

foggy mirage
#

Plus reeves is involved

#

In brave and the bold

sage sleet
#

But crazy stretch

foggy mirage
#

He was literally there

#

For clayface

#

He sat in for the casting

#

😭

main lion
#

reeves is a good person to ask for that stuff

#

considering how he nailed The Batman

sage sleet
#

I just don’t know who I’d want to play Batman in dcu

main lion
#

reeves was producer for clayface right?

sage sleet
#

Aside from Pattinson USA USA USA

#

I think?

#

Is James Gunn and reeves doing the Grayson Todd movie

#

Or is it reeves n someone else

foggy mirage
#

Yeah producer and involved in the casting

#

From what we've seen

main lion
# sage sleet Aside from Pattinson USA USA USA

do you not see any value in maintaining the grounded tone of pattinson's character start to finish? Do you only look at these characters as table dressing for your little cameo movies

foggy mirage
#

Reeves is just involved

#

In anything batman

#

For the dc stuff it seems

sage sleet
#

I like my Batman both fantastical and grounded

#

Btas my favorite Batman

#

That’s just me h tbh I

#

Tho

#

Fuckin phone

main lion
#

they should cast a new character for your grounded fantastical ideal

foggy mirage
#

Dcu batman won't be grounded

sage sleet
#

I do but I think they could do more than just grounded. Multiple layers

foggy mirage
#

Gunn already cited who's run inspired dcu batman

sage sleet
#

But I still love reeves vision

main lion
#

lmfao

sage sleet
#

Idk who I’d want to be the dcu one I just know I don’t want it to be the two most popular ones

foggy mirage
#

Dennis o neil batman

sage sleet
#

I think Pattinson as an actor would make a phenomenal grounded and fantastical Batman

#

I just REALLY don’t want Mann or other guy

#

Or elordi I really don’t wanna see that

foggy mirage
#

I doubt its gonna be mann

main lion
#

pattinson would make a great anything since hes just a great actor altogether.

Doesnt mean hes the only great actor that exists

sage sleet
#

I will play Batman dcu

#

Fuck it

main lion
sage sleet
#

Haven’t seen people want that one dude

#

Jensen ackles? Idk names well

#

In a long time

main lion
#

whos the guy that plays thad in blue mountain state? My irl friend wants him but I think hed suck

sage sleet
#

Alan rotchson

#

Roth

#

ROTCHS

#

god

#

Witches

#

Dude

#

RITCHSON

main lion
sage sleet
#

I think Alan would make a great captain atom or Shazam

#

Or mongul

#

Prolly wouldn’t be used as Susan again

#

Are you fucking joking

foggy mirage
#

Alan can play anyone else just not batman

sage sleet
#

Stupid ass iPhone

#

AQUAMAN

main lion
foggy mirage
#

Wonder man

#

Is a thing funny enough

main lion
#

but he should play wonder woman

foggy mirage
#

If he can rock the suit

sage sleet
#

Could also see him as hawkman

#

Really wonder who woman woman will be

foggy mirage
#

Woman woman

#

At this point I have no clue

sage sleet
#

I’m actually deleting discord on mobile man

#

Apple slurps ass

foggy mirage
#

Discord mobile on ios

#

Seems really bad

sage sleet
#

Today just been horrible

#

Ok James announce Ben Schwartz plastic man that’s all

#

I do wonder when we’ll see more big castings

main lion
sage sleet
#

Who do you think

#

Like which chars

foggy mirage
#

Batman too

#

The teen titans

#

The metal men

#

The rest are up in the air for now

sage sleet
#

Metal men honk shoo mimimi

#

When is teen titans supposed to happen

foggy mirage
#

Dc fans when an A lister isn't on screen

#

Never beating the allegations

#

😂

sage sleet
#

The writer did supergirl and then WW right

#

Then TT after?

#

I like metal men was joking

foggy mirage
#

Im more interested in swamp thing

sage sleet
#

My fav chars in DC are p much B-D? Ish tier

foggy mirage
#

But the metal men is nice to have a lore and supporting cast

sage sleet
#

I heard the swamp thing show from a few years back was nice

foggy mirage
#

Its getting a movie

sage sleet
#

Ik

foggy mirage
#

Its just in development

sage sleet
#

Just saying I heard the show was good

foggy mirage
#

So my guess like 2 years

#

It was

main lion
foggy mirage
#

We have a name for the movie

#

A director

#

The script is supposedly done

#

The only thing missing is a batman casting

#

At this point

sage sleet
#

Saw the metal men in one of the comics I been reading

main lion
#

so you think they already solidified an actor?

sage sleet
#

Cool guys

foggy mirage
#

They are actively hunting

#

For a batman

main lion
#

oh thats what I thought you meant by "confirmed"

foggy mirage
#

I think that jack ryan guy

main lion
#

that theyre already confirmed/decided

foggy mirage
#

Said they rejected him

main lion
#

jack ryan as batman wouldve been funny

foggy mirage
#

God whats the name of that buff blond actor

#

But that buff guy got denied

main lion
#

thats probs the one we talked about earlier

foggy mirage
#

I think so

sage sleet
#

Alan

#

He’s def not Batman

foggy mirage
#

But batman should be able to act

#

I can't have it be alan

main lion
#

hey

#

alan's thad was 10/10!

foggy mirage
#

😭

foggy mirage
#

Bigger question for me who plays Damian

#

First robin casting

#

Since 96

#

😭

sage sleet
#

I wouldn’t hate Alan as Batman but I think he’d be better else where

#

Biggest question

#

Nightwing

foggy mirage
#

Not gonna be dick grayson

sage sleet
#

Streets gon light up no matter the casting

foggy mirage
#

But nightwing casting is important too

#

Since teen titans will be a thing

sage sleet
#

That’s what I’m saying pimp habibi

main lion
#

crazy that there still hasnt been a nightwing

foggy mirage
#

Not unless you watch that bad show

#

But dcu should have a nightwing

#

And a red hood

sage sleet
#

Wonder what the titans lineup will be

foggy mirage
#

Likely going for classic

sage sleet
#

Classic animated or classic comics

#

Bc isn’t it

foggy mirage
#

Aka the one most people know

sage sleet
#

Speedy, Donna, and uhh

foggy mirage
#

They aren't doing Donna troy

#

Or speedy

#

Till later I feel

sage sleet
#

I’d prefer animated lineup

#

Keep cyborg tf outta the JL I do not care

foggy mirage
#

Depends on gunn there

#

Hopefully this time they dont shaft their cyborg

sage sleet
#

Gunn if you can hear me please James Gunn

foggy mirage
#

Praying for good movies

#

Can't ask for more

sage sleet
#

Supposedly there’s an announced show coming out this year right

#

Same

bronze rapids
#

is the wire good

#

?

sage sleet
#

Yeah

bronze rapids
#

I just got hbo max

foggy mirage
mild seal
bronze rapids
#

I am tryna watch HBO max shows

#

Im either gonna watch true detective or the wire

sage sleet
#

IF so

#

Wonder if it’s an animated show

#

Or maybe jimmy olsen

bronze rapids
sage sleet
#

But that seems extremely quick

sage sleet
mild seal
bronze rapids
#

Any other good hbo max shows

wooden swift
#

Wire is easily top 3 all time

bronze rapids
#

I am thinking Succession too

wooden swift
#

My personal favourite

bronze rapids
#

And maybe curb your enthusiasm because of that one meme

sage sleet
#

I liked industry but it’s like 70% sex scenes

#

At least what if felt like

bronze rapids
#

im prob gonna start with wire

wooden swift
#

I'll put it this way

#

Every single person I turned on to the wire

#

Has loved it

sage sleet
#

Never forget Adam and

#

Season 4?

wooden swift
#

Pasto can speak on that, @nova zephyr @scenic terrace can speak on that

bronze rapids
#

Ooh

#

Sinners is on hbo max

wooden swift
#

And also fats

bronze rapids
#

I didnt know that

#

And game of thrones

#

Ive never watched that yet

#

The only hbo max show ive watched of late is The Pitt which was a 10/10

sage sleet
#

Adam didn’t like 4 right

#

?

bronze rapids
#

Is Chernobyl good?

#

Ok whatever ima stop asking questions, I'll start the wire lol

wooden swift
#

Michael K Williams and Idris Elba have knockout performances

#

Chernobyl is good and quick he's

scenic terrace
wooden swift
bronze rapids
wooden swift
mild seal
#

yes*

wooden swift
#

Yes*

scenic terrace
#

The Wire is goat’d

bronze rapids
#

oh i see

#

ok

#

STARTING THE WIRE

wooden swift
#

When you walk through the garden....

sage sleet
wooden swift
#

I don't recall

bronze rapids
#

HOLY SHIT

#

UNCUT GEMS IS ON HBO MAX??

#

Im gonna totally watch that tmrw night bruh

#

Its been on my to-watch list forever

sage sleet
#

Kid in a candy shop

scenic terrace
#

I think I watched 1 or 2 episodes of that before dropping

sage sleet
#

Is the Pitt good

bronze rapids
#

Yes

scenic terrace
sage sleet
#

Might watch that next

bronze rapids
#

I heard the Pitt is top 2 most accurate and realistic medical shows of all time. Up there with "ER" which I havent watched yet.

bronze rapids
sage remnant
scenic terrace
#

Funnily enough the protagonist of The Pitt was a main character in ER

bronze rapids
#

which i would never actually do

wooden swift
#

Adam did you dislike wire season 4?

tawny parcel
sage remnant
sage sleet
#

Adam I just denied from insurance today can you fix me my king

scenic terrace
tawny parcel
#

Also sucession was good

#

I never finished it

tawny parcel
#

I got to like halfway through s3 then stuff happened

wooden swift
#

Goddammit Adam

tawny parcel
#

But still good

sage sleet
#

I knew I wasn’t tripping

bronze rapids
#

ok

#

goodbye

#

starting ep1 of the wire

scenic terrace
sage remnant
#

man I could have watched Succession instead of Stranger things...

scenic terrace
#

I watched blacklist s2 and Wednesday s2 over my holiday break. That’s something I guess

bronze rapids
#

Blacklist is insanely good

#

The one with the old guy and the girl right?

#

I forget the actors names

#

lol

sage remnant
#

James Spader one yea

bronze rapids
#

yea spader

#

such a tuff name

#

Rocks D. Spader....

sage remnant
#

good actor. Good first season

#

good second season too...

#

And then it returns to old TV issues

#

Tho ig new TV too given ST

wooden swift
#
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God his performance is so goated

bronze rapids
#

can I be honest btw

sage sleet
scenic terrace
#

No