western-series

[shadow sequoia]

That's what I'm saying

[wooden swift]

I fail to see what marketing has to do with the quality you hold a film to

If a film is good, it's good

If a film is bad, it's bad

[mild seal]

comic book movies aren't an exception, they're just meant to be entertaining turn your brain off at times fun. if I want to watch a movie that makes me think and be amazed at the shots they used for scenes I will do that. not every movie is created equal

[shadow sequoia]

Which MCU movies did you find to be bad?

[outer tulip]

yeah but mcu gets thrashed cause of expectations

like theres better superhero movies out there... when there's not

[copper phoenix]

watch people riot if they don't bring back the rest of the cast

[shadow sequoia]

It sounds like you didn't enjoy any of them

[modern lichen]

he thinks all of them are bad

[wooden swift]

Yes because I want to turn off my brain when I'm sitting for 2 hours watching any film

[shadow sequoia]

How is that possible

They cater to such a casual audience too

[wooden swift]

Sorry that you're gimping the franchise you're fighting to defend by admitting it's brainless. next please

[modern lichen]

there are certainly a whole lot of films that are like that though, even outside the MCU

[wooden swift]

I don't disagree

[copper phoenix]

I don't even watch sitting

[wooden swift]

Which is why I compared them to fast and furious

Another franchise that's an abortion

[modern lichen]

just because they're that doesnt mean they dont have any merit

[shadow sequoia]

It's the difference between sitting down to watch Interstellar VS Captain America 6

[wooden swift]

A film that lacks integrity artistically lacks merit to me harsh, sorry

Especially when the acting can't hold up

[shadow sequoia]

I'm not going into both movies with the expectations of "this movie must be peak cinema"

[white smelt]

Are you drunk, Balkan?

[wooden swift]

No

[outer tulip]

no ones forcing you to watch them.. you can literally just not watch them

[modern lichen]

i dont understand that logic at all

[copper phoenix]

I mean sometimes we just wanna pass time and get entertained

[white smelt]

Okay, carry on

[copper phoenix]

not everything I consume must be a masterpiece

[shadow sequoia]

I think there are some MCU movies that are well done

Artistically

[wooden swift]

Again

I've said I liked like...maybe 3-5

[outer tulip]

no one watches MCU for the quality of the individual films... its the excitement of how everything connects. It's always been that way

[wooden swift]

But as art pieces they fail to do much of anything. I'll admit the acting was good and I guess I liked the story

[copper phoenix]

balkan you're a huge fan of soccer no? it's not so different from sitting down to watch a match as long as you're entertained

[shadow sequoia]

I'm just curious what the main complaint is here

[modern lichen]

its antithetical to continue ranting about the MCU if you dont like it balkan

[shadow sequoia]

Were they mostly uninteresting to you?

If so, why watch any of them

[wooden swift]

No because football has history and culture and I actually have an essay I wrote about precisely this misconception

[mild seal]

excuse me for sometimes wanting to enjoy something that isn't a metaphor for life or the hardships of growing up, I sometimes want to wind down and be entertained by decent stories that don't require me to analyze every scene to get it

[shadow sequoia]

Comic books were made to sell other comic books

[copper phoenix]

cinema has history and culture too I don't get your point

[outer tulip]

people be writing thesis papers on mcu nowadays

[shadow sequoia]

Unfortunately, that's kind of how the movies do it too

I don't think they're shooting for the Oscars here

[wooden swift]

Fantastic

[shadow sequoia]

Closest we got was what? The Dark Knight?

[wooden swift]

A movie is purposefully not trying to be good

[shadow sequoia]

But they're not trying to be bad either

[wooden swift]

Can't wait to watch more films purposefully being average for the purpose of selling

[shadow sequoia]

It's not like horrendously terrible

There's shit like Sharknado

[outer tulip]

why do people think you HAVE TO watch MCU?

[mild seal]

its like you can't see that a movie doesn't have to be oscar worthy for it to be good

[shadow sequoia]

Or The Room

[mild seal]

lol

[wooden swift]

I never said it was but the concept of creating bang average shit to appeal to the lowest common denominator

Is inherently bad for the medium of film

[shadow sequoia]

Oh yeah

No disagreement there

[wooden swift]

Great

[shadow sequoia]

I think a director said something about that

"Comic book movies are hurting the industry" or something

Was that Spielberg?

[copper phoenix]

movies are product like any other, there are bad things and good things and they don't really affect each other

[modern lichen]

no one said that vic

[shadow sequoia]

Nah hang on

[mild seal]

scorsese might have

[outer tulip]

weren't they complaining about cinematic universes?

[copper phoenix]

good filmakers and directors will continue to make masterpieces despite the sharknado 12

[shadow sequoia]

Yeah

Martin Scorsese

[modern lichen]

scorsese called them "theme park rides"

[shadow sequoia]

He doesn't consider Marvel films to be cinema

But I mean

[wooden swift]

Yes

That's precisely my issue

[modern lichen]

nah, its a form of cinema for him

[shadow sequoia]

I don't think anyone disagrees? But clearly, they are doing something right since they are so successful

[outer tulip]

for starters they're consistent

[wooden swift]

It's bad for the medium of film when the most popular franchise is bang average brainless vacuums of entertainment over art

Btw

[modern lichen]

but he's saying that big franchise movies like marvel are drawing in more audience

[wooden swift]

I'd have this same feeling if a game like COD consistently was the most popular game every year

[copper phoenix]

not everyone needs art every single time of their day

[shadow sequoia]

I don't see an issue with that aspect

[wooden swift]

This isn't limited to MCU and I'm not shitting on marvel

I just dislike the MCU

[glacial jetty]

i don’t think they even have to be considered in a different light to other movies vic lol. There are some bad ones. There are some good ones and some really good ones like regular films

[shadow sequoia]

Yeah

[wooden swift]

Fine, but again

[outer tulip]

some people don't like big franchises... i get that

[shadow sequoia]

I've just never met anyone who disliked the entire MCU before

[glacial jetty]

There’s no need to go “oh don’t compare them to x” but why? It’s still a movie. It doesn’t mean it’s inherently lower quality becuase it’s mcu

[wooden swift]

It's bad for the medium as a whole and we're all lying to ourselves if we're going to say there aren't people who only go to see mcu films

[shadow sequoia]

They definitely exist

[wooden swift]

If someone doesn't want to watch films that are "art" or make a statement, fine

[shadow sequoia]

I just feel like they're not as big as you think

[modern lichen]

for me this is just a moot discussion

[shadow sequoia]

Cause that's fucking weird lol

[wooden swift]

Just don't be jerking off the fucking franchise when good films and art exist in that medium that do what the MCU does better

That's all I'm saying

[shadow sequoia]

Imagine only ever seeing Iron Man

[modern lichen]

no one ever jerked off MCU here man

[copper phoenix]

as long as they're happy watching their "not-art" movies it doesn't affect me in any way

[mild seal]

I don't think anyone here has said or done this though, you're just assuming thats what we're doing

[shadow sequoia]

I think the MCU has some merit when it comes to that though

Not much

[copper phoenix]

I just let them be

[outer tulip]

people don't even really like mcu here lol

[wooden swift]

No I'm not dude

[shadow sequoia]

But there's some stuff in it that is better than other movies

[wooden swift]

You're self conscious and assuming I'm talking about you

Sorry that you're insecure

[mild seal]

I didn't say myself personally? I said anyone here

[cunning spruce]

All I know is MCU is boring and there's better things to watch

[wooden swift]

Again

Kindly show me where I said that about an individual here

At any point

[copper phoenix]

there is always better things to eat too but sometimes you just crave that burger

[shadow sequoia]

Avengers: Endgame ||I can't remember the last time a villain or antagonist of a story has actually made me feel something as much as Thanos||

Idk

It's just exciting for a different reason

[outer tulip]

the fact is mcu is going to continue making films.. its their right. But if you keep watching and complaining, that's your fault

[shadow sequoia]

When I went to see Blade Runner 2042, I was like

Holy shit

Peak is back

[cunning spruce]

Yea, I do like some of the movies but it's just stupid fun

[wooden swift]

Avengers engdame ||thanos made me feel absolutely nothing||

[shadow sequoia]

But for it's cinematography, atmosphere, world-building, etc

Whereas with an Avengers movie

Or any MCU movie

I'm like peak is back but what I'm talking about is sick ass fights, good CGI, music that I can hum to, etc

[outer tulip]

go enjoy stupid fun... take a load off, relax and just enjoy.. its really fine

[copper phoenix]

yea thats a bit of a hot take

[shadow sequoia]

Avengers: Endgame ||Really?||

Then again

The Batman ||I didn't feel anything towards the Riddler ||

[copper phoenix]

avengers endgame || thanos is cool and all but as a villain he's pure nonsense ||

[cunning spruce]

MCU peaked at Winter Soldier in my opinion. Lol but then they became meh with some good stuff in between

[copper phoenix]

it's really just there to look cool

[shadow sequoia]

What I mean to say is it isn't often, for me at least, to feel threatened or fearful of an antagonist

[wooden swift]

Avengers Endgame ||yeah really. No offense Vic but how many times have we seen the "I'm going to destroy the world" trope? Why do I fucking care? It's such an easy dunk to make a villain hateable when you kill half the world including characters that you've seen, i literally do not care at all about him or his story because it was never personal. In my next message I'll tell you who I consider a good villain||

[outer tulip]

if anything looks cool is freaking WAKANDA FOREVER .. ugh I'm obssessed

[shadow sequoia]

Avengers: Endgame ||I'm confused by this because his reasoning, albeit, wasn't a good idea; There's an understanding to his thought process and he actually gets it done||

[wooden swift]

I'll try to limit this to films, rather than bringing in games or when television

[outer tulip]

people don't give mcu credit for including different cultures and mythologies... kinda sad

[shadow sequoia]

Avengers: Endgame ||Most villains do it but how many actually get away with it is the difference for me||

[wooden swift]

Oh just stop

Just fucking stop

[outer tulip]

but they are

so idk what you want from me

they're including it

[wooden swift]

Go watch a fuckin foreign film dude if your concept of foreign culture and mythologies is the MCU you need your head checked

Jesus Christ

[outer tulip]

seen them.. they're good and they do it ALSO

[shadow sequoia]

I wouldn't know anything about that

[wooden swift]

That message made me physically recoil

Fuck me

[outer tulip]

im not comparing.. i'm saying they're doing it. and that's good

representation in franchises are a good thing

and they always will be

[copper phoenix]

avengers endgame || I mean dude he could've get it done in many other ways without killing half of everything lol plus at rate population grows he probably only set humanity back by 50 years (and he even destroyed the stones after so no seconds) ||

[mild seal]

do you have to actually be talking about an individual person in here when you say very broadly, "people that watch the MCU don't watch other films"?

[copper phoenix]

really has no other purpose other than looking cool

[wooden swift]

I agree but they're doing it in a way that's lazy and frankly so basic that anyone could do it, it isn't smart or done in a manner that's respectful of the culture in question. Harry potter did the same shit with bringing in Greek mythology

[shadow sequoia]

Avengers: Endgame ||That's fair but I always imagined that the Infinity Gauntlet was actually limited and he had to have something feasible in mind as opposed to just being able to spawn food for everyone ||

As for that other part

Idk

Marvel shenanigans

I just can't think of a movie where I was unsettled that much

[wooden swift]

Anyone who has been on the earth long enough knows that Thor is the Norse god of thunder. You using that as a stipulation of a representation of Norse culture and mythology would be like me saying that the episode of SpongeBob where they went to Atlantis was representative of Greek culture

[shadow sequoia]

I want to feel something and sometimes, for some people, typical movies just don't do that

[wooden swift]

You tell me, do I?

Again

Sounds like you're personally insulted

[outer tulip]

I mean I'm not saying they're slamming it out of the park... but you can def see the effort to include all different backgrounds and culture into the universe.

[wooden swift]

No

Because there is no effort

[barren ice]

Nope Movie

||That was….something.||

[cunning spruce]

We can collectively say that the Enternals was dogshit? Lol

[shadow sequoia]

Yeah, I think we can all agree

[wooden swift]

Evidently not

There are some in chat who liked it lmao

[shadow sequoia]

It was really bad lol

[wooden swift]

Shows the levels were at here

[outer tulip]

well... I like seeing different cultures in franchises.. So I'm appreciatibve

[mild seal]

I'm not taking anything you say personal because at the end of the day people will enjoy what they want, but you can't say that saying something so broad like that and then defending it by saying you weren't talking to someone personally on here

[wooden swift]

So if you do

[wooden swift]

Go watch things about other cultures rather than limiting yourself to a franchise that will always view foreign cultures through a western, American lens

[outer tulip]

@modern lichen you said ms marvel did a good job in some aspects with indian culture right?

[copper phoenix]

eternals || the best part of the movie was the final shot from space with the giant halfway thru earth and that shit was never addressed again lmaooo ||

[wooden swift]

You clearly fail to see how damaging it is to your perception of other cultures by limiting yourself to this level of exposure

[modern lichen]

yeah ms marvel was done by south asian filmmakers

[shadow sequoia]

I guess I just can't relate

No matter if it's absolutely terrible or amazing

[outer tulip]

yeah.. I'm glad about that

[cunning spruce]

Yea, it's pretty to look at but don't go to movies/shows that are made in America for exposure to different cultures.

[modern lichen]

it was pretty good

[shadow sequoia]

Comic book movies are always interesting to me

[outer tulip]

Balk is saying I shouldn't be though

[shadow sequoia]

I did grow up with them

[mild seal]

I definitely learned a lot about that region of the world by watching ms marvel

[wooden swift]

Yeah I didn't use the word all, while I understand what you're saying it's still a valid statement because people like that still exist within the MCU fanbase whether you want to admit it or not

[modern lichen]

it matters more for me as an indian

[cunning spruce]

Unless they did the proper research on theose cultures

[wooden swift]

Jesus Christ man

[modern lichen]

they represented the partition really well too

[outer tulip]

yeah I was glad to see that represented having got a glimpse of it in RRR

[modern lichen]

RRR is again more fantasy and doesnt depict the partition

[wooden swift]

Again

[cunning spruce]

I still haven't seen RRR

[modern lichen]

you should

[wooden swift]

The MCU represents foreign cultures through a western lens

That is inherently damaging to the representation of any culture

And if you're actually interested

[modern lichen]

ms marvel was very accurate for me

[wooden swift]

Seriously, actually interested

[outer tulip]

maybe not the actual partition but just the english crisis in general

[modern lichen]

i can vouch for it lol

[sinful vessel]

Daredevil Born Again + Netflix S3

[cunning spruce]

I just need to find somewhere to watch RRR

[copper phoenix]

if harsh is saying mr marvel is accurate then I guess it's true

[wooden swift]

Absorb culture and art through the creations of the culture itself rather than limiting yourself to what the west has to offer because it'll always be through an etic perspective

[modern lichen]

Balkan, I'm saying that's not the case for what Ms Marvel did

[wooden swift]

That's all well and good

[modern lichen]

I as a South Asian can say it did a very good job

[outer tulip]

to be interested requires exposure... people who watch MCU wouldn't think to take time to do the outside research.. so mentioning it at all just encourages it

[wooden swift]

People who watch MCU wouldn't think to take time to do outside research

We've come full circle

[mild seal]

ms marvel has made me want to learn more about the partition and the shit that went down

[outer tulip]

that's my point

[wooden swift]

I'm going to bed

[modern lichen]

I've seen a shit ton of foreign films too, my catalogue of films itself ranges at 5k+ movies

[copper phoenix]

despite mcu being a western production it's published globally so if there is anything wrong about their cultural depiction you can be sure people will complain

[modern lichen]

And I can appreciate some aspects of what MCU pulled off with the representation

[wooden swift]

Jk not actually going to bed

[modern lichen]

LOL

[outer tulip]

you should sleep on it though

we gave you a lot to absorb

[wooden swift]

No because you've literally just proven what I was saying

[modern lichen]

Oh boy...

[wooden swift]

Kindly don't act like you've said something poignant

[outer tulip]

you just have to digest

its fine.. i see this all the time

[wooden swift]

You have to read a book

I'm sure you do

[outer tulip]

you think there's some superiority in the way you see art.. that's just arrogant and not realistic

[mild seal]

[outer tulip]

but an opinion

and that's fine..

[wooden swift]

arrogant and not realistic

[outer tulip]

just doesn't relate to everyone

[cunning spruce]

I just enjoy the whole Hydra infiltrating SHIELD thing and Shield beating them plot

[outer tulip]

its a you thing

[wooden swift]

Explain to me how it's arrogant to say that viewing cultures through a western lens is bad

Use your brain

[outer tulip]

you think I'm just talking about that one line you said?

Its everything

lol

[wooden swift]

Again

Explain how that's arrogant

[outer tulip]

go ahead

im just saying you sound arrogant.. going to tell someone to "go read a book" cause you're suggesting you have and their higher levels of intelligence in art spaces that you're aware of and not people who like MCU

its insane actually.. but that's you!

[wooden swift]

This isn't explaining how me saying that you should experience cultures through their own creations rather than through a western lens is arrogant

Try again

I'll wait till you get it right

[modern lichen]

Lets not go hostile

[outer tulip]

all I said was that mcu exposes people to cultures that can encourage them to do the outside research

[mild seal]

this is what he's talking about, not just that particular point

[outer tulip]

so idk how getting that exposure through "a western lens" or anything.. then going to watch what he considers to be better like foreign film and books (whatever) to be a bad sequence of event

[wooden swift]

Because the second part rarely happens

If ever

Mind you this isn't limited to the MCU

[outer tulip]

ok but the second part can ONLY get more audiences from the exposure

so what's the big deal?

[wooden swift]

But the fact that you unironically think the MCU represents cultures and mythologies well, EVEN IF something like Ms. Marvel did it well

Is the furthest thing from accurate

[outer tulip]

again I said, I am glad to see representation in MCU and I think it is a good gateway to do further outside research on those cultures

[wooden swift]

Shouldn't have to be said btw but I am not talking about the actors that play the roles

[outer tulip]

what's the big deal?

[wooden swift]

Wrong, this is what you said

Why should I give them credit for doing the bare minimum

[outer tulip]

well fuck it.. that's what I meant

[wooden swift]

Yeah exactly dawg lmao. You don't even know what you're arguing

[outer tulip]

im saying we should give them credit for getting representation

[wooden swift]

No we really shouldn't if it's the effortless bare minimum

Sorry that you hold them to such a low standard that them literally throwing shit from other cultures in haphazardly is worth praise

[outer tulip]

so we shouldn't create more outlets to encourage people to do outside research on other cultures?

[wooden swift]

We absolutely should

[outer tulip]

ok so what's the problem?

you think MCU shouldn't be doing it?

[wooden swift]

But the MCU is a very poor vessel to do that in because it has zero to do with any culture in question, bar Ms. Marvel evidently

Yes because like

Let me try to explain this

[outer tulip]

ok sure.. i'll come back but my only point is it can ONLY lead to more people doing outside research

[wooden swift]

Let's say i, as a Greek, want more representation of my people and culture in the United States

Logically

Would I want a hero with a Greek name in an MCU film who borrows powers from Greek mythology to be someone's gateway into discovery of my culture and people

Or would I want someone to like...do something that the normal fucking people in my country do, like watching an Anthony Bourdain episode or really anything anthropological on my country?

If we're limiting it to a western/American lens

If not, then would I rather the first, or rather them watch a film that came from greek filmmakers, about greek culture and people etc?

The answer really isn't hard

And it all stems back to my initial point of people who Stan the MCU limiting themselves to that for their foray into arts and entertainment and barely considering other facets from other creators

[copper phoenix]

just wondering do you think your average film watcher is gonna just randomly pick a foreign movie to watch without any other reason

[wooden swift]

If it's well done and reviewed as such, why not

[outer tulip]

I guess I just don't see the issue with having both eventually exposed

[wooden swift]

Ok but my point is both aren't exposed

[outer tulip]

I know your point

[spice folio]

yo

whoever

[outer tulip]

its not as good to have it come from mcu/western lens

[modern lichen]

I've watched both foreign films and the MCU Balkan, I don't get this complaint of yours

[spice folio]

edited the goddamn Black Panther trailer

deserves a fucking raise good God

I'm in tears

[mild seal]

I loved the music shifting into hip hop at the end

[spice folio]

I had 0 expectations for that movie

but damn

looks phenomenal

[wooden swift]

Obviously it isn't accurate per se but people loved Midsommar which was partially a representation of Norse religion (to an extent), IF THE FILM IS GOOD, then yes

[dim hedge]

Gotta watch it later

[copper phoenix]

still most people are used to watching western movies rarely go out of their comfort zone

[modern lichen]

I have no further interest in the MCU but I don't get the take of "they have no art in them so they're worthless", the lowest common denominator films deliver themes and can be artistic as well, that's the power of fantasy

[copper phoenix]

even if the film is well reviewed

[wooden swift]

WHICH IS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING SPICE

WHICH IS WHAT I'VE BEEN FUCKING SAYING

Jesus Christ

[spice folio]

you too? what made you lose interest?

[copper phoenix]

yes I know but you can't simply have people doing different without something to prompt it

[modern lichen]

But what's the problem there though

[outer tulip]

i guess I'm just seeing it from a particular perspective that's different then yours. Where there are people who don't watch or read what you're suggesting (or know to reach out to these things) on their own. Being included in a larger franchise just helps get them there if they decide to look into it more. That's where the content you're mentioning comes into play. So you get the audience who find it directly and then additional audience from people who see it somewhere else

[wooden swift]

Harsh literally

Consider every facet of media you've heard me gush over

And their importance to the medium as pieces of art etc

[copper phoenix]

what nami swan is trying to say is that watching mcu will spark interest and finally make those people try your foreign movies

[outer tulip]

yeahh

[copper phoenix]

which otherwise they would have never thought about trying

[outer tulip]

like after ms marvel I was curious about somethings and Harsh made recommendations

[wooden swift]

Why as a person who appreciates the upper echelons of any given medium would I be happy with people continuously feeding on the bottom of the barrel when greater things are attainable

[modern lichen]

There's a rejuvenated interest for history with regards to Indian independence due to Ms Marvel

[wooden swift]

I'm glad there is

Sincerely, I am

[pale tapir]

Goddamn. I didn't expect for the wakanda forever trailer to make me cry

[modern lichen]

People are genuinely looking for other avenues

[pale tapir]

What a wild trailer

[wooden swift]

And I feel RRR coming out at the same time is efficacious in that aspect

But as you said

[copper phoenix]

everyone has to start somewhere

[wooden swift]

That was a good representation of South Asian culture, no?

[copper phoenix]

most of us started watching trash movies on tv no?

[wooden swift]

Are we going to say every representation of a foreign culture in an MCU film is at the same standard as Ms. Marvel?

No, clearly not

[spice folio]

it was the best marvel trailer since the Infinity War one

[copper phoenix]

or were you born on a theater watching the finest pieces of cinematography at 5 year old?

[pale tapir]

Yes it was Jesus

[outer tulip]

so we're isolating ms marvel now.. lmao okay

[pale tapir]

I cried

[outer tulip]

seen it all now

[pale tapir]

Like. Got me legitimately emotional

[wooden swift]

When I was 14 yes, I know people my age, personal friends who still only watch MCU shit

There's a decent chunk of individuals who don't expand that

[dim hedge]

[wooden swift]

And choosing to ignore that is serviceless

[copper phoenix]

everyone grows out at their own pace

[wooden swift]

Yes because it's evidently so good

What, in your opinion, that comes from the MCU, represents a culture well?

[copper phoenix]

people are gonna expand their horizons at some point

[wooden swift]

Since you're so well informed

[cunning spruce]

None tbh

[pale tapir]

Wait, why are you guys hating on ms. Marvel?

[outer tulip]

well i'll start by saying I never said it represented culture well.. I said it's good that they're including representation. I'm not from the culture to say it is represented good or not

[wooden swift]

I eagerly await

[modern lichen]

Balkan, I don't think it's that deep, people can watch things and expand their tastes at whatever pace, I don't really see this as something that is to be complained about lol, the MCU is plain fun for most people

[wooden swift]

This conversation has never been about fun for me

It's about the integrity of the medium of film and why I'm frustrated about it

[mild seal]

and I think thats where things are conflicting right now, some people watch movies because they're fun

[modern lichen]

If it's any indication, the medium of film has been going stronger than ever this year

Moreso than MCU movies

[wooden swift]

But this is my thing dude

[cunning spruce]

As it should be fun but there is people who think it's the epitome of cinema

[wooden swift]

Why is it held to a different standard

[modern lichen]

So many quality films and franchise failures

[wooden swift]

Literally why

[modern lichen]

No one said that

[wooden swift]

It's still a film

Like...okay

Am I wrong to listen to an album by Lil Dicky and think it's shit just because it's purposefully supposed to be dumb and funny?

No, it's still poor

[mild seal]

it's not being held to a different standard, its just that not all movies are meant to be the way you view them. some movies are just supposed to be fun

[modern lichen]

I don't think the situation of what kind of cinema is being popular really is in dire straits, we've had blockbusters that have been extremely successful

[wooden swift]

But again harsh

The convo is about the overarching quality, or lack thereof, that I hold the MCU to

[modern lichen]

I can say that MCU has had some quality and it's not that bad lol

I can admit this recent phase is just ass

[wooden swift]

If all 30+ MCU films are just for "fun" then why are some good and some bad?

[outer tulip]

MCU serves a specific purpose and that's to give us action packed entertainment.. it does it's job well

[wooden swift]

They should all be held to a standard. I choose to hold them to a standard and a pretty big amount of them fail that for me, personally

[spice folio]

yeah, Phase 4 was shit

[modern lichen]

This is flawed

I can really say that is flawed reasoning Balkan

[wooden swift]

May I kindly send a link to a clip from a film I personally believe far surpasses action in any MCU film

Why is it flawed reasoning to have a standard harsh

[cunning spruce]

coughCaptainMarvelwasshittyCough

[wooden swift]

Explain that

You have personal taste

[outer tulip]

sure

[mild seal]

can I see that clip too? I'm curious

[wooden swift]

Sure

The Raid 2 ||https://youtu.be/uMje7SrCtPI||

||Context is missing for the stakes of this battle if you haven't seen the film, but from the choreography to the pure viscerality to the cinematography of this scene and frankly, this franchise (two films) in general, I think this far surpasses any action scene that's ever been in an MCU film||

[cunning spruce]

I honestly enjoyied the recent ish Mighty Morphin Power Ranger movie, but I still thought it was also cheesy and silly just like the show. No need to deep thoughts for that movie. Lol

[copper phoenix]

tbh the action in the mcu is rarely impressive to me

[wooden swift]

^

[modern lichen]

The standard here doesn't apply for all types of films, different movies for different denominations intended for a whole mass of different audiences. I won't hold Apocalypse Now to the same standard as an MCU film because I know it's not fair to compare to different films that have different intentions of telling a story. The flaw here is that the standard is variable in all senses of the word

[outer tulip]

ok yeah i've seen this movie

[copper phoenix]

well using the raid as example is aso unfair lmao

[wooden swift]

Literally why

[copper phoenix]

those are some of the top tier action scenes ever

[wooden swift]

and????

It's a film

If it's well done why is it bad to have that as a standard

[cunning spruce]

Any fight scene with Captain America is my favorite.

[modern lichen]

I don't think it's fair to compare on the basis of "it's a film" because the intentionality is different

[copper phoenix]

if you set the top tier as standard then everything else becomes shit lol

[uncut yarrow]

|| heres what i think the twist will be for EOS : Saul is actually crippled inside to what eventually happens to Kim which makes him act as a lawyer repetitively || BCS latest

[copper phoenix]

whats the point of watching anything then

[uncut yarrow]

oh no it's argument sunday

[modern lichen]

I won't play around the bush here, standards you set are rigid and conforming to that would only prove difficult for you to enjoy different types of media

[wooden swift]

To experience art and further your knowledge of the medium

And my argument remains

[cunning spruce]

Wait, what is The Raid

[copper phoenix]

it's fine if you wanna have such high standarts but would legit feel sad af

[wooden swift]

If MCU films buy and large lack art and set themselves as pure entertainment with a cookie cutter pattern for how they're made, that's bad

[copper phoenix]

I would stop doing anything because it would be instantly shit

[wooden swift]

And I'll be real

[modern lichen]

Balkan, not every film is that, I don't understand why you're putting that criteria on a pedestal

[wooden swift]

I wish I wasn't this way

It's just how I view art

Games and music are the same to me

[modern lichen]

I'm sorry it's just too rigid

[wooden swift]

No harsh it's permeable

[outer tulip]

Ok I think I know where you struggle with MCU.. I think I figured it out. can I say it?

[modern lichen]

Is it? It doesn't seem like it's that permeable

[wooden swift]

I mean I cant stop you from saying anything dude lol

Harsh if it wasn't permeable

[shadow sequoia]

There's only one movie you could even compare that to with the MCU

[wooden swift]

Why would I like TPAB and In Utero when they're so sonically and artistically different

[shadow sequoia]

It's not often the MCU has hand-to-hand combat like that lol

[wooden swift]

I appreciate that they're both amazing albums with artistic integrity

[modern lichen]

Again, music is a different medium than movies

[wooden swift]

I appreciate art. Simple as

Yes, but art is still art

[pale tapir]

Shang chi fights were pretty good

[modern lichen]

The medium is the message

[copper phoenix]

tbf that was because they were actually trying to pay homage to wuxia so it had to be good

[pale tapir]

True

[copper phoenix]

other than that only winter soldier comes any close

and it was like 5 minutes

[wooden swift]

My favourite MCU film, don't even remember any of the fights but was a great MCU film

[cunning spruce]

Winter Soldier is my favorite too

[shadow sequoia]

Lmao

[young compass]

can someone direct me to the start of this discussion so I can read it all

[wooden swift]

Frankly fights don't do much for me unless they're as visually stunning/felt in the same capacity I felt the ones from the raid

[modern lichen]

Balkan I remember having this sort of discussion before

[wooden swift]

@young compass

[cunning spruce]

I watched some fight scenes from the movie Ong Bak and it looks awesome

[wooden swift]

Ong Bak is ok

First one was the best

[shadow sequoia]

I think you guys just like hand-to-hand stuff lol

[cunning spruce]

I go through phases of just watching fight scenes

[wooden swift]

Films got kinda weird after that BC Tony Jaa became a Buddhist monk for a few years and made everything about traditional Thai religious culture, which is fine, but delved too far into fantasy for my taste

[outer tulip]

I know but I'm making assumptions about you so I wanted to ask ha... I think you struggle with MCU holding itself accountable for meeting a certain standards. MCU has become this "too big to fail" franchise that has so much power to do what they want regardless if they meet expectations or not. I think you want to add pressure to the franchise, in holding itself accountable to deliver good quality everytime, when in reality it doesn't have to in order to continue being successful. And that might be what people can argue to have been the case in phase 4

[copper phoenix]

ong bak is goated

[pale tapir]

Ip man (the first one) was great

[cunning spruce]

Ohh

[wooden swift]

If it's not hand to hand it's CGI and fake shit lol

So yeah

[copper phoenix]

tony jaa just has great movies man

[shadow sequoia]

Yeah that doesn't equate to bad though

[copper phoenix]

and I love how the action feels raw af

[wooden swift]

This is mostly correct

[pale tapir]

Sadly infinity war was like that. So much cgi

[wooden swift]

It does for me!

[shadow sequoia]

[wooden swift]

The protector was dope lol

[shadow sequoia]

A question

[cunning spruce]

Ye, the CGI thing is getting old

[wooden swift]

Second was good too

Third, eh

[glacial jetty]

Well it’s only gonna get more common lol so uh…..

[wooden swift]

[glacial jetty]

It’s already getting good enough to the point where depending on what it’s used for you can’t even tell it’s being used

[wooden swift]

Lmao

Yeah

[mild seal]

ip man 2 was the one where ||he fought the other masters and the american boxer right?||

[wooden swift]

You really can

It's like

Extremely obvious

[glacial jetty]

Not often but it’s getting better

Yea it’s mostly obvious

[cunning spruce]

I don't have anything against CGI, but I like practical effects more

[glacial jetty]

Most do

[shadow sequoia]

How do you feel about something like Mad Max: Fury Road

[wooden swift]

IP man 2 ||British boxer but yes. Included alot of the political tension of Hong Kong as a British territory so that was super fucking cool||

Fuck you guys btw. Paused RRR for like an hour to have this convo and now I just wanna get ready for bed.

[cunning spruce]

Mad Max:Fury Road is amazing

[wooden swift]

^

[mild seal]

practical effects > CGI all the way but there are certain things that can't be done with practical effects and if CGI is used instead I'm ok with it

[shadow sequoia]

Ok

[wooden swift]

Honestly

[shadow sequoia]

So to my understanding

[wooden swift]

For me it's the choreography

Sorry

[mild seal]

oh right he was ||british|| I loved that one

[wooden swift]

Cinematography

[outer tulip]

oh shoot... hopefully you made it to the intermission

[wooden swift]

Like

[shadow sequoia]

It seems to me that this is simply just a difference in how we perceive movie making

[cunning spruce]

Ye, like perfect combo can work fairly well

[wooden swift]

I love breaking bad ALOT. Partly because the camera work is s tier

[mild seal]

this is the reason I loved Birdman, its just so good in that regard

[shadow sequoia]

Because you sit down to watch a movie and expect a 10/10, no?

[wooden swift]

Birdman was brilliant

[cunning spruce]

I'm a sucker for a good camera work

[mild seal]

those long 1 take shots

[copper phoenix]

jonh wick but good

[wooden swift]

That's Leon: the professional

[mild seal]

god I gotta rewatch leon

[wooden swift]

NO WOMEN NO KIDS

[copper phoenix]

leon is pog

watch it

[cunning spruce]

I honestly couldn't get into Birdman...

[wooden swift]

The first scene of Leon is so fucking good dude

[cunning spruce]

I love Michael Keaton but that movie could not hold my attention

[wooden swift]

Leon ||when he comes out of the shadows and puts the knife to the dudes throat||

S tier lighting and camerawork

[cunning spruce]

I feel like I watched Leon all the way but I can't remember..

[wooden swift]

Hannibal also had some fantastic cuts (lol) with the cooking scenes

[cunning spruce]

Badum tss

I'm also a sucker for amazing costumes by people who at least try with effort

[wooden swift]

Mind you as much as I love cinematography

The wire is my favourite show ever and just had like, standard cinematography

But that was S+ tier world building and story/characters

[cunning spruce]

The Wire? Lol

[wooden swift]

So fucking good meu

[mild seal]

the wire kinda lost me on the final season, but it was good

I liked the parallels of some characters

[cunning spruce]

I still gotta watch it.. I've been watching Downton Abbey constantly. lol

[wooden swift]

Yeah s5 had its issues

[glacial jetty]

How many seasons total?

[wooden swift]

5

[glacial jetty]

It’s on my list

I’ll do that after I finish dr who

[wooden swift]

See you next year

[mild seal]

its weird seeing it nowadays because of technology lol

[glacial jetty]

9/13 already

[wooden swift]

The wire excels as well because it was a black dominated cast at a time where that really wasn't a thing

And I have an appreciation for that

[cunning spruce]

What year?

[wooden swift]

Started 2004 iirc?

[mild seal]

I recently started watching Buffy and it was weird seeing all the late 90s shit lol

[wooden swift]

Buffy and the X files lmao

[cunning spruce]

I love Buffy so much

[copper phoenix]

buffy is great

[modern lichen]

Oh nice, glad we moved on from that discussion lol

[wooden swift]

But yeah nothing touches the wire

[cunning spruce]

I'm not quite fond of season 7

[mild seal]

its funny seeing a character in Buffy be afraid of computers and the internet

[wooden swift]

5G fearmongering in the 90s

[mild seal]

although I liked his reasoning why

[wooden swift]

Y2k shit

[cunning spruce]

Lol

The clothes were interesting

[outer tulip]

almost done with Ted Lasso season 2.. truly one of the best shows I've ever seen

I have to watch What we do in the shadows next

[glacial jetty]

[mild seal]

I can't get into what we do in the shadows

its just not my kind of comedy I think

I got to s2ep5

[outer tulip]

is it just not funny? or just the kind of humor itself isn't for you?

ima be going in pretty blindly

[cunning spruce]

There's a lot of humor that I can't get into..

[copper phoenix]

anime humor is tough

even op is getting annoying

[mild seal]

It's funny but most of it isn't my kind of comedy

[wooden swift]

Humour in general is difficult

Curb your enthusiasm is hilarious

[outer tulip]

I haven't watched that show in like 10 years

[wooden swift]

Still going strong imo

[modern lichen]

what we do in the shadows is incredible

[wooden swift]

Curb, Peep Show are two of my faves

[modern lichen]

i love that show so much

[cunning spruce]

I don't find movies like Scary Movie funny

[modern lichen]

they're not funny

[cunning spruce]

I don't like horror comedy except a select few

[outer tulip]

zombieland was pretty funny

[cunning spruce]

I loved Shaun of the Dead

[outer tulip]

oh yeah that was funny too

[modern lichen]

the cornetto trilogy in general is great

[cunning spruce]

I also loved Cabin in the Woods tbh..

[modern lichen]

hot fuzz >> shaun of the dead though

[white smelt]

I don’t like br*tish humor

[outer tulip]

have you seen about a boy?

[crimson lance]

Watching an awful movie rn and it just won't end

[modern lichen]

which movie

[cunning spruce]

I watched this zombie movie that was so painful dull but I endured it for some reason

[crimson lance]

The talented Mr Ripley

[modern lichen]

i like that movie

its a good one

[glacial jetty]

drwho s9 || so close to heaven sent.....i can almost taste it.......||

[crimson lance]

I was expecting something like Spielberg's catch me if you can

[modern lichen]

wrong expectations

completely different films

[crimson lance]

Mr Ripley || the gay judd law romance stuff was good but everything after the murder sucks ||

[modern lichen]

?

lol

[glacial jetty]

drwhos9 || this season a bit of a snooze so far though admittedly. the davros 2 parter was the best part so far but other than that its been 3 mediocre 2 parters with some golden bits thrown in||

[crimson lance]

What lol

[broken fossil]

Found a cool crappy 80s movie in comic con called “trancers” can’t wait to watch later

[stiff knoll]

I think I'll watch RRR today

[sinful vessel]

Downloading Daredevil comics

[fickle ember]

Why would you torture yourself like that blob

[sinful vessel]

??

[stiff knoll]

Haha

[stiff knoll]

I downloaded the camrip instead of webrip 🧍

[modern lichen]

its on netflix luca...

[stiff knoll]

I don't have Netflix

[cosmic ore]

Movies123 it is then

[wooden swift]

Half of RRR done

Will finish rest tomorrow

It's fine so far

[pale tapir]

Haven't watched RRR yet

[modern lichen]

uh

i would suggest finishing it off in one go tbh

[wooden swift]

Harsh please

It'll be 04:00

:(

[modern lichen]

oh

right

my b

well then, good night man

have a good sleep

[white smelt]

Alright dude

Unbelievable

[mild seal]

Is RRR an acronym or is that the full name

[white smelt]

You went in this big tirade about art and film and you’re telling me you watch movies in chunks?!

[wooden swift]

[dim hedge]

I gotta watch RRR some day

[modern lichen]

LMAOO

[mild seal]

I feel this

Lol

[glacial jetty]

both.....i think?

i gotta finish it too i starting watching it with my mom but she didnt like it and that bummed me out so i paused it

[mild seal]

I just looked it up and yeah it's both lol

[modern lichen]

rrr is the main name and the subtitles in english is rise roar revolt

[white smelt]

I watched the trailer and I knew it wasn’t for me. Seems like a cheesy 80s action movie feel

[modern lichen]

@jolly heath CR campaign 1 ||at long last, i'm continuing the chroma conclave rewatch, paused for a while, starting on the vorugal fight||

[modern lichen]

your loss

its so much more than that

[wooden swift]

That's Bollywood in general tbf

[modern lichen]

?

[wooden swift]

Seems that way but

[stiff knoll]

??

[modern lichen]

i'm sorry its not

bollywood in general is not that

[white smelt]

My gain in free time

[wooden swift]

From a western perspective having people doing backflips and shit

Comes off as cheesy

I like Bollywood

But I see what he's saying

Like there's entire YouTube comps of crazyily cheesy action scenes in Bollywood

[modern lichen]

its definitely not that

[wooden swift]

Obviously not reducing Bollywood to that, but RRR is far from the only film that does that lol

[stiff knoll]

i think you're thinking of Kollywood?

[modern lichen]

"bollywood" as a term is outdated

its just the hindi language industry

[mild seal]

I can see that being the case harsh

[jolly heath]

[modern lichen]

RRR is not a hindi language film

it was made in telugu, my mother tongue

its based on 2 real freedom fighters

[wooden swift]

Yeah again dude I'm not like

[modern lichen]

the telugu industry is the second largest movie industry in india

[wooden swift]

Trying to badmouth the Indian film industry

I'm just saying lots of scenes that are seen by westerners come off as cheesy/overedited because they're so over the top

[modern lichen]

yeah, this movie is entirely marketed as fiction and especially as a fantasy

[wooden swift]

Got to the "intermission" btw

So at least I stopped there, lol

[modern lichen]

the two figures this movie is based on are legendary freedom fighters who have now gained a mythical sheen in the collect consciousness of our people

the telugu people i mean

the trailer doesnt do justice to how good the actual film is in whole

[stiff knoll]

we briefly studied about Alluri Sitaram Raju in school. i don't really remember much about Komaram Bheem though

[maiden kayak]

Does tollywood represents whole south india?

[modern lichen]

did i say that?

[wooden swift]

RRR ||right when Aktar is hanging from the banister and Raju is crying blood, that's where I stopped||

[modern lichen]

yeah, thats the intermission

[maiden kayak]

I am asking lol

[modern lichen]

no, there are 4 primary language based industries in the south

telugu, tamil, kannada and malayalam'

[cunning spruce]

Paul Giamatti is in Downton Abbey

[modern lichen]

rajamouli who made RRR and baahubali is a telugu film maker

[mild seal]

A language who's name is also a palendrome I love it

[stiff knoll]

i never saw baahubali
but the clips i saw were pretty amazing

[modern lichen]

RRR ||the entire interval sequence and the confrontation between bheem and ramaraju is extremely cool||

[modern lichen]

bheem fought the hyderabad nizams

[maiden kayak]

I know that , was asking does tollywood means movies from all these languages or it is something else specific?

[modern lichen]

no

tollywood refers to the telugu industry

[maiden kayak]

Ohh got it

[modern lichen]

alluri seetarama raju fought the british in an armed rebellion

[wooden swift]

But yeah it's fine so far. I imagine things really pick up in the second half as far as stakes and shit go, but
RRR ||I really like the focus on the political spectrum, but I want more of it and less of the other stuff. I feel so far we've gotten alot of bureaucratic examples between the Raj and Rajus character, but for me not enough for how the Raj treated non "conscripted" Indians, or how the "traitors" treated the regular people. The bit we have gotten I liked but I feel it was played down by the parts of the film like the dance party and shit||

[modern lichen]

dont open balkan until you finish the movie, RRR ||this is what alluri seetarama raju looked like in real life||

rrr ||and this is what bheem looked like in real life||

but yeah, RRR is fuckin great

[dim hedge]

GOTG 3 || https://twitter.com/culturecrave/status/1551009483916161024?s=21&t=NiXxfodvSI5YhdTZSUE_Xw ||

Culture Crave 🍿 (@CultureCrave)

Chukwudi Iwuji enters #SDCC as the High Revolutionary from #GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol3

📷 @therealsupes

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Twitter · Jul 24, 2022, 1:00 AM

Didn’t see this earlier

Neat

Just realised the tweets typo

[fluid merlin]

Oh damn ok, its one of those movies

[grim kiln]

im not being mysogenic but

[glacial jetty]

never heard a good sentence start off like that

[grim kiln]

but hulk should be stronger

she hulk ofc is more flexible

[sonic tree]

it's been confirmed that she hulk will be the strongest hero in the mcu actually

[glacial jetty]

but yes

very much

[grim kiln]

no fukin way

omg

phase 4 really sucks

[modern lichen]

uh

anyway

bcs s5 ep1 ||god, tony dalton is so good||

[brave orbit]

||Werner Z I E G L ER || BCS S5E1

[dim hedge]

@grim kiln spoiler tag trailer stuff

[brave orbit]

||Do you know how many werner Zieglers there are in Germany?|| BCS S5E1

[dim hedge]

BCS s5 ep 1 || very very true and hot ||

[brave orbit]

||27. 26 now according to Mrs Ziegler || BCS S5E1

[stiff knoll]

an hour into RRR and damn this movie has already blown me away so many times

[brave orbit]

||Hey, you. Michael. Ever heard of the guy? He's a bald gringo. He's in the game.|| BCS S5E1

[modern lichen]

bcs s5 ep1 ||"are all those buildings really full of chickens"||

[dim hedge]

Blade runner, mad max or The Good, The Bad And The Ugly what do i watch first

[brave orbit]

Blade runner 2049

[modern lichen]

the order doesnt matter, all of them are good

[dim hedge]

I’m gonna start going through my movie list but I can’t pick between the 3

[modern lichen]

pick any one

[stiff knoll]

RRR

[dim hedge]

Alright the random wheel spin says The Good, The Bad And The Ugly

After ep 3 of bcs s5

[modern lichen]

bcs s5e1 ||"poof! saul goodman is there"||

bcs s5ep1 ||gorgeous cinematography||

[brave orbit]

Yus

[tall dagger]

when you really want to necropost a conversation but you know you really shouldn't

[modern lichen]

man, rhea seehorn really deserves all of the awards

[brave orbit]

Her character became one of my favourites OAT

You dont appreciate her acting fully until you see how she is irl ngl

[dim hedge]

Change of plans, blade runner time

[brave orbit]

<@&164973429412331521>

[stiff knoll]

Bruh

[past panther]

SoBa#2991 was banned!

[stiff knoll]

Based

[icy locust]

bcs latest ||the sequel to the tuco meme||

[sage remnant]

Civil War too. That's another one integral to her character

[modern lichen]

BCS season 5 has had such a great start

I just started episode 3

[sacred notch]

Should I watch RRR movie?

[modern lichen]

Yes

[sacred notch]

But damn its 3 hours, is it worth the 3 hours tho

[modern lichen]

Idk, i think it very much is

As do a lot of people here

[sacred notch]

Atlanta season 3 is the best show I've enjoyed in this year so far, second is The boys then BCS

[sinful vessel]

https://twitter.com/marvelcrave/status/1550870427949465607?s=21&t=clyKWOQn4n-9OY1oldwecw

Marvel Crave (@MarvelCrave)

Marvel Studios has reportedly filed more trademarks:

• Nomad
• Shang-Chi & The Wreckage of Time -Black Knight: Origins
• Eternity Wars
• Midnight Suns
• Avengers Academy
• Celestials: End of Time

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Twitter · Jul 23, 2022, 3:48 PM

No source to be found but still pretty interesting

[dim hedge]

Uncanny x-men (1963) issue 1

[hazy patrol]

Uncanny indeed

[dim hedge]

Time to start reading x-men from the beginning because the mcu is killing me with the lack of x men

I pray for d23

[sinful vessel]

You’re a comedian room

[sinful vessel]

Gonna start reading Daredevil comics

[dim hedge]

I gotta continue man without fear

[dim hedge]

If there’s nothing about x-men there…

[hazy patrol]

I thought you were on manga schedule

[sinful vessel]

I am

Never said when i’d start reading them

[hazy patrol]

Good

[dim hedge]

Growing up with x men cartoons i must say, x-men >>>> avengers

I’m excited to check out the comics

[hazy patrol]

I slept while watching x men when I was a kid

Ngl

Never tried again tho

[dim hedge]

Wolverine and the x-men

Show was my childhood

[leaden depot]

Just a heads up, the initial X-Men run doesnt have many of the most popular characters

[hazy patrol]

Imagine not being a nerd like me as a kid

[leaden depot]

Those start showing up in the 1970s revival of the series

iirc #94

Also

From issues #67–93, cover dated December 1970 to April 1975, the X-Men series consisted of reprints due to lack of sales.

So you can skip those

[dim hedge]

Alright thanks

[leaden depot]

Oh yeah, have to read Giant-Size X-Men #1 before #94 too, cause that is where they debut

And is kind of a link between #66 and #94

[sage remnant]

RRR coming to Zee Cinema.

[modern lichen]

nice!

[sage remnant]

@scenic frost
https://youtu.be/qO8uSZLc3f4

Was pretty sure Malazan would be on first spot damn

Haven't even heard of 4-5 series there until now

[scenic frost]

Lol I have heard of all of them except no 1

[sage remnant]

No. 1 took me by a surprise lol. Hadn't even heard of it and it has double length of Malazan (both Erikson's and Esslemont's works combined)

[lucid cloud]

Nomad
Uhh what that supposed to be

[outer tulip]

||https://youtu.be/elw3Yby72wI || Wakanda Forever REACTION vid

[sinful vessel]

@outer tulip that needs to be spoiler tagged

[fluid merlin]

wakanda forever || that looked amazing, im really hyped up ||

[nova zephyr]

they really didnt hire me

[sonic quail]

Has anyone ever read the 3 Body Problem?

Chinese scifi novel supposedly one of the best ever translated to english

[sinful vessel]

Neat

[maiden kayak]

I read the first book

It was very good

Bt then i haven't read that many books so cant judge it with other scifis

[sonic quail]

Oh ok

Just started it

Seems very interestibg

[regal root]

|| https://youtu.be/RDk9cCWn_Rs || Resident Evil Netflix show review

[leaden depot]

So on par with the movies

lol

[regal root]

General consensus I’ve seen is that the show makes the movies look like damn near like masterpieces by comparison

[modern lichen]

I dislike this dude a lot but even the general consensus is that the show is absolutely fuckin terrible

[regal root]

I mean it’s Netflix

Rarely do they actually do something right

[modern lichen]

Stranger Things is a Netflix show too lol

[regal root]

Hence rarely

[modern lichen]

It's just that the showrunners are bad

Than the platform that bankrolls these shows

It's not like Netflix is like Marvel Studios either, Netflix backed shows are entirely creative based

[regal root]

Lot easier to make something popular when it comes out of thin air, lot harder when it’s based off of something that already exists and you don’t go out of your way to try and make a half decent adaptation

[modern lichen]

Yeah that's entirely up to the showrunners and creatives who go to Netflix and Amazon

[leaden depot]

[tall dagger]

depending on thickness

[modern lichen]

finished the gray man

was alright

[fluid merlin]

Elvis was great

Baz Luhrmann is apparently one of Odas fav directors… for some reason

[crimson lance]

He must of saw Romeo and juliet when he was younger

damn you werent lying

what are the chances oda saw elvis on his break

[spice folio]

what?? really??

[spice folio]

oh

[fluid merlin]

I was on the fence seeing this one, but then I read a review on imdb that it should be experience in theatre because of the fantastic sound (I agree now) and because of Baz being a fav of Odas, and because of Jinbes Elvis Presley attire in film red lol

[crimson lance]

it's insane how many good movies this year came out, and how elvis is in the like top 5

[modern lichen]

I found Elvis to be ok

Luhrmann does have the flourishes still but the drama was cool

It was certainly good that the movie chose to focus primarily on a specific relationship, which anchored the movie and made it palatable to follow

[coarse flower]

young guns is such a random movie

[modern lichen]

Snuck in there

[brave orbit]

@glacial jetty did you see Russell T Davies comment on instagram to a homophobe

[glacial jetty]

I did not but I’ll look for it

[brave orbit]

I can send in dms

[glacial jetty]

Not connected to much who media outside of the show

I should though for the fanarts

yea please do

[white smelt]

LOL

That’s disappointing

[brave orbit]

Oda likes a lot of people

And also k-pop

Nuff said

[fluid merlin]

when did he say he likes kpop?

[brave orbit]

A lot of the songs he shared sounded a lot like kpop to me

[fluid merlin]

🤦

[white smelt]

Brilliant take…

[regal root]

Just saw Avengers 5 has been confirmed for 2025

[broken fossil]

Two avengers movies

[glacial jetty]

I think I saw somewhere else that the russo bros are confirmed to not be directing those

[brave orbit]

Btw vem, moffat is rumoured to be writing eps for the rtd2 era

Hopefully he writes eps like he did in his era

[glacial jetty]

Any idea when the 60th special comes out

[brave orbit]

Next year

And its 3 specials

Supposedly

[glacial jetty]

niceee

[brave orbit]

Centenary is in october

[pale hawk]

Yall seen the gray man?

[feral kettle]

no

looks bad

[outer tulip]

i would but i dont watch ryan gosling

and i'm on a netflix break

[crimson lance]

why dont you watch ryan gosling

he's a fun actor

[outer tulip]

I just don't care for his movies

only one I liked is Drive

[crimson lance]

lame

[white smelt]

lame

[outer tulip]

thats not directed at barbie tho

just stuff like the notebook and crazy stupid love... that i just never cared for tbh

[white smelt]

Blade runner?

Lars and the real girl?

[outer tulip]

what about them?

[pale hawk]

That seems more like a genre issue than the actor

[outer tulip]

yea

that's just what I think when I see him

but not to say I don't like romantic comedy stuff

along came polly, 50 first date , how to lose a guy in 10 days

love those movies

[white smelt]

I mean have you seen them? He was in them and was great. He’s an amazing actor.

[uncut yarrow]

Ryan Gosling racism

[outer tulip]

I mean I saw bladerunner... it was ok

has he done anything like really good though?

[uncut yarrow]

Damn

My man belittled one of the great actors of our generation

[outer tulip]

oh no I was asking a genuine question... what's his most acclaimed film? I probably just haven't seen it

[white smelt]

Drive

[hoary hawk]

drive

[white smelt]

Blue valentine maybe?

[outer tulip]

yeah I like Drive

never seen blue valentine.. is it old?

old for me in terms of ryan gosling is anything before the notebook

[white smelt]

2010

[outer tulip]

ah ok.. i must've missed that one

overall I dont have anything against ryan gosling.. I just remember people kept calling him the hottest guy in hollywood for a long time and just thought that was why he was so notable tbh

but it'd be good for him to get a cool role like green book or martian.. something heavily acclaimed.. im surprised he doesn't' have one yet

yall are useless!! ... He was in LA LA LAND

[copper phoenix]

lala land is mid

anyway you made it sound like you avoid his movies like the plague lol

[outer tulip]

yeah I mean I just don't get excited when I see he's starring in something

[crimson lance]

none of you mentioned the nice guys and its why you are lame

[feral kettle]

peak comedy

[outer tulip]

I don't count

I admitted to not knowing ryan gosling movies

[white smelt]

Blue valentine and drive are probably his most acclaimed while blade runner is probably his most commercially successful

But yeah you made it sound like you hate the guy and avoid his movie and now you said he doesn’t excite you. Two very different things!

Also lalaland was lame indeed

Why I didn’t mention it

[outer tulip]

yeah I just mean la la land was huge so I didn't know why it wasn't mentioned

and no I don't actively avoid Ryan Gosling, but if I see him starring my lack of excitement might lead me to never see the movie (unless I hear its really really good)

[fluid merlin]

havnt even seen la la land but that is probably his most acclaimed one

[stiff knoll]

RRR is great

🧍

What a movie

[outer tulip]

yeah I'd consider that to be too

[sage sleet]

incels ruined ryan gosling

even he hates them

aint seen all his movies but most of em pretty mid at best

[outer tulip]

for sure

and besides la la land I'd say his second most notable is the notebook

[sage sleet]

what i know him most in is bladerunner then la la

then driv

drive

[outer tulip]

drive is the only one I actually really liked

but I know the notebook was a huge deal growing up

[leaden depot]

Man's done all types of shit lol

[crimson lance]

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[sage sleet]

i wasn't huge on drive like it was nice but pretty tame and then the incels tryna copy him like. man

[leaden depot]

He is the only person who can rock that jacket lmao

[outer tulip]

I watched Drive randomly on like FX or something.. I just remember finishing it and being shocked that there was a ryan gosling movie i actually watched and liked

[sage sleet]

got bored one day n finally decided to check it out

[broken fossil]

Drive was an instant fav for me , kind of got obsessed with it for a little while

[sage sleet]

still need to see him in more things

[feral kettle]

about to see nope

[leaden depot]

The OST is awesome and the cinematography is great

The story is eh, idk

[outer tulip]

for nope?

[leaden depot]

Drive

[outer tulip]

oh.. word

[leaden depot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K7rmxjk5RQ

Apart from the iconic main theme

[feral kettle]

agreed

[uncut yarrow]

Looks dope ngl, might actually start to care

[outer tulip]

if you didn't like phase 4 you won't like phase 5

I liked phase 4 though so I'll like it

but everyone else will like phase 6

[uncut yarrow]

Phase 5 hasn’t come out

[outer tulip]

I know but I think a lot of the criticism people had with phase 4 will show up in phase 5

[uncut yarrow]

And I just never cared about Marvel movies except Phase 1 when I was a kid, I have no opinion on phase 4 since I haven’t watched it

[outer tulip]

phase 4 was good to me, it was just a little all over the place