vc-manga

[foggy minnow]

it doesn't feel like a good reason for them to just now go after Luffy for having the fruit

[viral stirrup]

well... ig this can be retconned as well, like yeah WW was guarding it but it can also be written that he wasn't the only one guarding it, y'know?

[timber remnant]

Like, it's only a problem now because he's fighting Yonkos

[hot bison]

Wait really? I never got that implication

[viral stirrup]

thats just speculatory tho

[timber remnant]

Luffy would've never had a chance to awaken beforehand I think

[oak briar]

No Vic, otherwise they would have gone for Luffy instead of Robin at the beginning of Wano

[timber remnant]

We don't even know how awakening works anyways

[timber remnant]

Well no

Because the Admirals were never going to be dispatched

[torpid kestrel]

if the gorosei didnt interfere he wouldnt have awakened

[timber remnant]

Akainu says as much

They can't go to Wano, the samurai are too much of a threat

[oak briar]

I'm talking about the CP0

[timber remnant]

Not to mention Kaido and Big Mom being there

[slate summit]

They did have intentions but they were foiled by Kuma at first

[hasty citrus]

Maybe Imu told them to target Luffy during reverie

[oak briar]

Why send the CP0 in 1037 and not at the beginning of Wano?

[timber remnant]

Yeah, but they didn't think Luffy had a chance at all

[oak briar]

No, they had to suddenly realize that the fruit was actually the hito hito no mi, Model Nika imo prolly given away by snakeman

[foggy minnow]

with any hope this situation gets cleared up a bit more as we move on

[hasty citrus]

There were a lot of stretches in that post

[timber remnant]

They were operating under the assumption that:
The Straw Hat Alliance never existed (with Kid, Law, the Scabbards, the Minks, etc)
That the Straw Hats would lose
Kaido and Big Mom's officers would win
The Beasts Pirates would stay on their on side
No Yamato or Tama interference

[terse mango]

It was GODA FORESHADOWINGUHHH

[timber remnant]

The Gorosei were just that assumptive is the way I take it

[timber remnant]

No they knew

[hot bison]

it has 10 THOUSAND

[timber remnant]

They knew the whole time

[hasty citrus]

Wtfffff lol

[rough flint]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/tokct1/the_latest_development_in_ch1044_has_been_planned/

[frozen hamlet]

Legendary

[terse mango]

Goda Goda Goda Goda peak piece !!!

[hot bison]

I should have posted my koi fish theory on Reddit would have gotten 30k+ upvotes

[foggy minnow]

which still doesn't feel a good reason because these are the same people who had this fruit under lockdown and punished the agent who lost it

[hot bison]

I think be had to have planned it during dressrosa

[viral stirrup]

in hindsight, this is clear foreshadowing imo

[hot bison]

When he revealed g4

[viral stirrup]

ni.....ka

[timber remnant]

Yup

They are still dumb

It's just that they aren't completely incompetent

Like

Going off of the fact that the DF being a zoan and having a mind of its own is a thing now, I betcha there's going to be something related to luck about how the DF just always gets away from the WG

[hot bison]

I mean that's what is implied

[oak briar]

skypea

[hasty citrus]

It grew legs and ran off

[hot bison]

That's what they said in the chapter

[terse mango]

Skypiea is the big one I guess

~~ Midpiea ~~

[cunning ingot]

i don't take skypiea as foreshadowing

tieback

[cunning ingot]

not planned this specifically since then

[hot bison]

I think the earliest he had it conceptualised must have been g4

[signal wadi]

Remind me to mute rokaya longer than the rest

[hasty citrus]

People say sun god in skypiea but this is the sun god

[gritty wagon]

Feel like it wouldn't have been planned until at least a couple years later. Iirc Oda mentioned something in an interview about not being sure how he'd handle Luffy defeating Kaido [without it being a big punch]. Feel like he'd already have some sort of idea of what Luffy's awakening would be by then.

[frozen hamlet]

Hmm

[hollow pasture]

I mean

[frozen hamlet]

Oh yeah, he's not supposed to beat Kaido like that...so what will happen?

[hollow pasture]

What else is there that can finish kaido without it being a big punch? His awakening moves?

[hot bison]

It's foreshadowing for Nika + the connection to luffy

[gritty wagon]

Yeah I can see him pulling a more creative finisher with the moveset Luff's got now.

||Or he could just grab the giant sword and slice Kaido for Zoro ||

[terse mango]

So why change it

[signal wadi]

So far

[foggy minnow]

he definitely has the awakened zoan buff

[hot bison]

Nah Luffy restarted his heart that's still my theory

[frozen hamlet]

Zoro can sound the drums of hell

[hasty citrus]

I think people are overwhelmed by the appearance he's taken on, and assume he has extraordinary power now, because people will judge him relative to other shonen endgame powerups

[slate summit]

Who arguing, this is similar to alabasta

[hollow pasture]

I think it’s just for a cool design

Like there’s not that much to it

[hasty citrus]

?

Yes that's what I'm saying

[terse mango]

What do they mean by more freedom???

[hasty citrus]

Yeah he was always durable before

[hot bison]

As in he can make his arm larger

[foggy minnow]

he even recovered his Haki and we already know that takes time to recharge

[hot bison]

Or change the trajectory of the punch

[hasty citrus]

But he was a zoan and a rubbery zoan so he had an inherent advantage

[hot bison]

That's whay they mean by more freedom

[cunning ingot]

i take it as more freedom with his fruit, but also a narrative connection to his goals and ideals and yadayada joyboy

[signal wadi]

To be revealed.

[hot bison]

Someone mentioned that he can remove the tension of his fruit like Mr fantastic

[hasty citrus]

I was already thinking one piece was about to become serious af

So I'm glad

[timber remnant]

No resin, no liquid power, no possession

[hot bison]

it's his heart

[frozen hamlet]

I dont hate this direction, and I thought I would. So thats good

[terse mango]

Why does he need a Nika fruit for that. Awakening the regular gomu fruit couldn’t have given the freedom limited by imagination/rubber?

[foggy minnow]

I also think this was the best way (gripes are had but still)

[oak briar]

Nika df awakening makes your heart beat in drums of liberation that = JoyBoy's

[fleet goblet]

I think the exact opposite. If this is still Luffy, it's just the least interesting thing imo.

[signal wadi]

I don’t mind him awakening. I just wish we got at least like a chapter of Kaido fucking shit up at the live floor. He was defeated and then immediately got up.

[torpid kestrel]

Joyboy is Nika, joyboy is just like a nickname because he brings joy

[hasty citrus]

Awakening the gomu gomu fruit without Nika would have kept luffy as a paramecia. I think that's what Oda wanted to change the most here, moving Luffy to a zoan type

[fleet goblet]

Xebec had the gomu gomu. just wait for it.

[hot bison]

This is why zunisha talked about joyboy

[hasty citrus]

Santa fruit incoming

[hot bison]

It's because of his heart beat it's unique

In this form

[viral stirrup]

gomu gomu? im afraid that fruit doesn't exist.

[last ravine]

if youre a "joyboy is a title" shill you can say nika is just a previous joyboy

[subtle trellis]

my heart funny 🐒

[viral stirrup]

please use its correct name

[last ravine]

also pog unmute

[slate summit]

This could make sense, Big Mom's fruit placing Joy Boy's soul into the Luffy's fruit passing it on for centuries

[torpid kestrel]

and anyone can be sun god nika if that person awakens the fruit

[small root]

Jesus Christ fruit has the ability to turn water to wine , most broken since it affects water

[final basalt]

Jesus is canon in one piece, man, Kuma has a fucking bible

[hasty citrus]

Brook will have the styx riverman fruit

[hollow pasture]

You’re…you’re not wrong…

[hot bison]

I think possibly that the fruit names were just named after people who had the fruit so maybe Nika had the fruit

[torpid kestrel]

Joyboy is Nika, joyboy is just like a nickname because he brings joy

and anyone can be sun god nika if that person awakens the fruit

[hot bison]

Yup silliest

[gritty wagon]

yeah

[small root]

I don’t think that means strongest yeah

[last ravine]

yea

[fleet goblet]

It means both

[final basalt]

That's it

[hasty citrus]

Yeah, not ridiculous in "strongest"

[small root]

Literally the most silly

[hasty citrus]

They mean RIDIC

[placid nebula]

Oh I can write here lol

[foggy minnow]

it's not overpowered
it's just goofy on crack

[undone rose]

goofy goofy no mi

[fleet goblet]

They wouldn't call it dangerous if it was just "HEHE WHAT A SILLY FRUIT XDDD"

[ebon parrot]

zoan awakening has great regenerative power

[small root]

Agree to disagree with choc

[terse mango]

Oh you’re finally awake.

Joyboy? Nika? Mythical zoan? Come on, we need to find a shipwright to fix the Merry.

[ebon parrot]

as shown in impel down

[signal wadi]

Where you been, bro?

[hot bison]

People think Luffy can imagine fire

Apparently that's why he has red hawk

Tf

[fleet goblet]

why try and go for it for 800 yrs if it's just "this is a silly fruit, hide it from history"?

[small root]

I feel like red hawk is due to the mythical zoan aspects

[hasty citrus]

It's perfect for Luffy, perfect match

[undone rose]

its probably related to nika being the sun god its not that he can just imagine whatever he wants

[last ravine]

he imagined the fire into existence

[hot bison]

It could be but I like to think it's not

[terse mango]

They had to hide it because of its name I suppose

[small root]

Yeah even now it’s still assumption , could be either way

[placid nebula]

Sun God probably can create some sun fire..

[cyan locust]

Or the actions of the previous user who once threatened the existence of wg

[viral stirrup]

people can just do this anyway

[hot bison]

People also think the gears are zoan forms that is the worst take

[fleet goblet]

Yes, I did say it's both. It is strong because it's limitless, it's ridiculous because it's limitless.

[steel gale]

Can we talk about the fact that luffy didn't have day long fights? Like Akainu vs Aokiji, and WB against Gold Roger? Will that eventually come up with BB? So most likely luffy would have to overcome BB's inability to sleep

[gritty wagon]

Oda will find so many reasons to justify including fire powers for everyone

[small root]

Limitless doesn’t mean infinite time though at least

[fleet goblet]

I was on holiday.

[small root]

So it’ll still have limitations

[glossy jolt]

the katakuri fight lasted for a long time at least

[hollow forge]

when was luffy's fruit ever called shit tho

[last ravine]

true i imagined myself unmuted

[hasty citrus]

Ace probably called it shit

[hot bison]

Boooooooooooooo BOOOOOOOOOOO

[small root]

Nika fruit seems like the weakest mythical zoan up to the point of awakening

[cunning ingot]

we thought you left for a hot sec bro. stoop quit one piece after this chapter lmfao

[oak briar]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-throwing-trash-can-at-someone-gif-19450291

[viral stirrup]

stoop quit?

[signal wadi]

I thought you got spoiled and dropped one piece

[placid nebula]

Stoop really left hahahaha

[timber remnant]

[hot bison]

Stoop will be back

[gritty wagon]

oh so he quit quit

[foggy minnow]

truth in this part

[rotund musk]

dramaqueen move lol

[cyan locust]

Yes

[hasty citrus]

He'll be back absolutely

[hot bison]

Either as stoop or as an alt

[fleet goblet]

Nothing will make me quit at this stage, I've been on this ride for almost 20 yrs

[iron fox]

would you really take luffy's fruit over others?

[terse mango]

Gomu is a lame ability on it’s own. It relies on creativity. Luffy made it special.

[gritty wagon]

stoop alter ego

[last ravine]

stoop formally left

[small root]

I agree, Imagine leaving the server and not just stopping to read the manga

[viral stirrup]

if it's an alt....

[cunning ingot]

yep same I am here forever

[small root]

He must have hated talking to people here

[oak briar]

He's definitely reading next week's chapter and he'll come back

[terse mango]

It’s lame.

[hollow forge]

what are "others"? the god-tier stuff like the gura gura or the ope ope? yeah I'd take the "others" then

[terse mango]

Alvida’s fruit is lame

Buggy’s fruit is lame

[abstract zealot]

I like Alvidas

[placid nebula]

@oak briar you'll always be Lord Resin for me

[oak briar]

bro

[hollow forge]

luffy's fruit naturally made him immune to electricity and haki-less blunt damage with no training

[iron fox]

that's the point most sane people wouldnt pick a damn rubber fruit

[small root]

Buggy’s fruit is also looney tunes

[oak briar]

you deserve an additional 24h mute just for this

[hot bison]

Senile old fucks

[hasty citrus]

We need some exposition for sure

[small root]

Even as a full enjoyer of this chapter I agree

[terse mango]

Lets not act like rubber is a HYPE AWESOME COOL ability bros

[oak briar]

mere yonkos: split the skies
buggy: splits his body like a chad

[signal wadi]

Rokaya…

Sheesh

[viral stirrup]

lol

[slate summit]

[gritty wagon]

splitting your body as a power's pretty metal, can see how a rubber body or slipping abilities can be seen as lame outside of OP though

[terse mango]

On its own? It’s not.

Luffy made it cool.

[hollow forge]

the gomu gomu wasn't at the top for paramecias, but it was definitely not anywhere at the bottom-end either lol

[hasty citrus]

Who's who would know yes

[cunning ingot]

rokaya is it ok if I drink out of the lake of tears you've made? I'm kind of thirsty

[last ravine]

[cyan locust]

[placid nebula]

[gritty wagon]

fats gonna chug

[viral stirrup]

i bet you're really bustin a gut at that one fats

[hasty citrus]

GARP knows

[terse mango]

Eat shit

[signal wadi]

Goro sai

[timber remnant]

[foggy minnow]

you'll need it to stomach down all the food you have in #food that you hide from us

[viral stirrup]

fucking lol

[devout hawk]

anglophone moment

[jolly stratus]

goro san!

[slate summit]

They sent Kuma when he became a problem

[hollow cipher]

[placid nebula]

But can we agree that they did the stage today because it was boring af with all the captains muted?

[fleet goblet]

disproven by them saying "the WG has tried to go for the fruit for 800 yrs"

but not a bad attempt adam

[small root]

WG at the very least had knowledge of gum gum 12 years ago , maybe lost track of it due to shanks theft , but I don’t think they had a full idea of what luffy could do through luffys pirate adventures , and shanks snitching is what made them privy to the fruit again

[gritty wagon]

it was pretty awesome with vibe muted jura

[devout hawk]

Can't get muted for a bet if you don't vote

[placid nebula]

Vibe one of the best here

[last ravine]

[hot bison]

Yup something about shanks having leverage over the gorosei and he forced them not to go after Luffy but now they're taking advantage of this scenario and have him killed by "accident"

Why would they want to cover up luffy's death otherwise?

[last ravine]

zyph

[gritty wagon]

i know i just saw him typing

[hot bison]

I've seen this theory on Reddit I don't take credit for it

[terse mango]

It should’ve been tama

[rough flint]

only can talk here for the podcast

[hot bison]

This makes a lot of sense

[hasty citrus]

What chapter is this panel from

[viral stirrup]

chat has been peaceful. very peaceful

[gritty wagon]

watch luffy stretch out his speech bubbles with awakening

[subtle trellis]

134

[oak briar]

why'd they listen to Shanks though

[placid nebula]

Too peaceful

[hasty citrus]

Goda foreshadowing

[devout hawk]

A much better outcome than eVIl sHAnKs

[oak briar]

is Shanks a celestial dragon?

[hot bison]

We'll find out

[last ravine]

oda has broken rokaya

[hot bison]

And maybe that's why they allowed admirals to go after him when Luffy did some dumb shit

[signal wadi]

Brokaya

[small root]

What you think of this @rough flint

[viral stirrup]

zyph pal.. you're crackin me up

[hasty citrus]

They haven't even done this level of head hunting for Robin and she has been on their radar since she was 8

[hot bison]

Nah I think earliest would be dressrosa

[oak briar]

someone give him 1 week mute, he has to recover

[hot bison]

Because oda wouldn't introduce the final form then

[fleet goblet]

maybe if oda was a good writer, then rokaya would be fine.

[hot bison]

And he also introduced awakening and the Luffy changing trajectory st the same time

[terse mango]

The longer you mute me the more cynical I become

[gritty wagon]

they do call him a hack

[rough flint]

Nah they should have known after Crocodile. Then Enies Lobby. Then Moria, sabaody, impel down, and then CONQUEROR's during marineford

[placid nebula]

Completely agree with Adam

[hollow forge]

what if the WG wanted to keep things lowkey, like with robin not getting a massive bounty?

[rough flint]

Then send a CP0 squad after him

[small root]

Aight fair enough , totally won’t argue that as that is accurate , something like this should be explained tho, and I think it eventually will

[terse mango]

Then they should kept chasing Luffy the same way they keep chasing robin.

[cyan locust]

Have we ruled out the possibility of a real gomu gomu nomi paramecia fruit existing ?

[hot bison]

Yes

[terse mango]

They only go after Luffy when he does something.

[gritty wagon]

I feel like Oda only came up with this in WCI at the earliest (keyword: earliest)

[fleet goblet]

D + Strawhat + Gomu Gomu + repeated assaults on the WG. and they do nothing until he's too big of a problem for them to deal with. There's no justification with all the story cues we've gotten. Even if you remove the fruit, it's still ridiculous.

[cyan locust]

[signal wadi]

Imu has it

[pine gorge]

[undone rose]

wondering about this^. Don't think it would matter too much but its interesting

[hasty citrus]

Multiple fruits of the same kind of power exist, but the gomu gomu uniquely seems to have been eliminated from the DF pool

[hollow forge]

the gorosei did also say in 1037 that the fruit is a legend to even them, that it hadn't awakened in centuries
so basically they didn't take things seriously and/or are more incompetent than we thought

[viral stirrup]

there is no justification

lol

[oak briar]

we'll know soon anw

[foggy minnow]

as with any newly revealed bombshell that may/may not make sense at the time, I have to look at this with a grain of salt

[hollow forge]

oda didn't have this planned out since decades for sure lol

[devout hawk]

People argue this because the government did act on Luffy -which is true, the WG have been chasing Luffy for a while- but they ignore that they did because of his incidents and his growing reputation, and the fruit was never a topic until suddenly it was and "always has been"

[viral stirrup]

er.. i should say.. i dont think there will ever be a "good" justification

[cyan locust]

Def , prolly around dressrosa

[hollow forge]

he probably started thinking about sun god nika around the time he said that luffy shouldn't beat kaido with just a punch

[slate summit]

I think it was because they received orders from the guy on the Empty Throne

[viral stirrup]

there can be a justification, but it'll be not great.

[devout kernel]

And he's got the pondglyph reader

[terse mango]

Yeah the only explanation for this is that the gorosei are the dullest knives in the drawer.

[placid nebula]

One of our bros

[oak briar]

maybe the Gorousei received a phone call from Oda to tell them that it's hito hito no mi, model Nika instead of gomu gomu no mi

[hasty citrus]

Yeah I think the differentiation here needs to be said, any attempts to capture luffy before now were never made on account of his fruit.

They were always because the crew was fucking shit up

[small root]

I just doubt that’s the only explanation , time will tell though

[devout hawk]

unless there's an actual gomu gomu fruit on the wild and they had no way to know which is which until tonight

[cyan locust]

Until shanks 3 weeks ago told em

[hollow forge]

soon bros

[terse mango]

They should’ve hinted that there was something more to Luffy when they talked about him.

[pine gorge]

Rokayabros...

[small root]

A real gum gum existing is totally in the realm of possibility now

[foggy minnow]

this doesn't feel planned at all, but I think Oda will help it make a little bit more sense later and on rereading it, we can look at this with some acceptance and reasoning

[frozen hamlet]

Like one of the speakers said earlier, just one or two CP0 agents being sent towards him would be enough for me

[rough flint]

the fuck is blue leg sika

sanji????

[cunning ingot]

sanji fans out of pocket

[placid nebula]

Do you think there are other mythical god fruits ?

[cunning ingot]

holy shit

[small root]

I think oda coming up with nika is the same process he used when he came up with the themes of drum island

[subtle trellis]

sanji goated

[timber remnant]

Sanji is a god

[small root]

Lucky coincidences

[viral stirrup]

sika

[timber remnant]

True!

[pine gorge]

Breaking Bad Fugue State moment

[undone rose]

sanji god confirmed

[cyan locust]

That's the most possible explanation we would get

[cedar temple]

the blue legged sika?

[hollow forge]

green blade zika soon too

[foggy minnow]

YES

[last ravine]

SIKA

[clear robin]

wtf is that 💀

[viral stirrup]

snaji

[small root]

Would be interesting to see who has the real one

[cedar temple]

who would be the blue legged sika then?

[oak briar]

so there is still a bit of hope for 4kids rap song

[hollow forge]

sanji lol

[foggy minnow]

I told y'all Sanji would have his days
first Joyboy, then Ryuma, then Blue Leg Sika

[small root]

[frozen hamlet]

Luffy's drums of liberation, Zoro's drums of hell, Sanji's drums of...spice.

[cedar temple]

that makes sense, maybe some lunarian stuff :0

[subtle trellis]

MY BOI

SNOOJ

[cedar temple]

SNOOJK

[subtle trellis]

[cedar temple]

SNOOJI

[cyan locust]

Would make things interesting
Gives more stuff to laugh at wg's incompetence

[terse mango]

snaji

[raw lantern]

This has been one of my other possibilities in my head. As an example, Mera mera vs Marco fruit. Seeing someone use fire does not mean they have Marco’s fruit

[hollow cipher]

sanjus

[rough flint]

My favorite thing to come out of the chapter

[viral stirrup]

ive broken red

[last ravine]

SNOOJ

[oak briar]

sanjo

[devout hawk]

librarian stuff

[oak briar]

SJANO

[ruby junco]

LOL

[cedar temple]

snooj is a librarian

[hollow forge]

blue leg snooj

[small root]

I wouldn’t mind wg being incompetent becoming a meme either lol

[quick marsh]

Snooj Dog

[undone rose]

lmao

[cedar temple]

SNOOJ BOGG

[hasty citrus]

What does this all mean for Kaido lol. Dead? Happy? Nakama?

[hot bison]

I think oda does this to make things more unexpected example with ace's death

[fleet goblet]

it's already contradictory to the established story, so I don't think there will ever be a good explanation of this.

[foggy minnow]

we're gonna have a game of wordle but instead of words, we'll make up new combinations of letters from Sanji's name

[frozen hamlet]

Chopper and Luffy having the same fruit cracks me up lol

[cedar temple]

kaido is like a fallen hero no?

[cunning ingot]

sneed

[viral stirrup]

yeh

[small root]

Could just make it simpler smh “yo ho ho he took a bite of nika ” same syllables too

[cedar temple]

he has to be the bad guy, for the good guys

[terse mango]

It’s an unnecessary change

[oak briar]

it's not

[terse mango]

It is

[rough flint]

nah it's funny because it's longer

[signal wadi]

Could really go for a grilled cheese rn…

[viral stirrup]

could really go for a grilled cheese rn...

[clear robin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olpsSRoOy1M

[cedar temple]

could really go for a grilled cheese rn...

[gritty wagon]

I'm mixed on it tbh

[clear robin]

🙏

[hasty citrus]

I don't know what Kaido is supposed to be but I want to see how he handles this change in Luffy, if he realizes what's even happened

[torpid kestrel]

Oda wouldnt reveal anything that happened in the 800 year void like i mean he would justify how that devil fruit comes to be etc

[small root]

Sigh , funny > anything so you right

[gritty wagon]

but I absolutely love the execution

[hollow forge]

gear 5th is so good thematically for luffy

[signal wadi]

You can say her name, fats. It’s okay.

[hasty citrus]

The important change to me is moving luffy to a zoan type

[oak briar]

it's not, why do you think Kaido was making "smiles" ?

[quick marsh]

Let's go Toon Force

[cedar temple]

so was luffy in his hybrid state this whole time then?

[clear robin]

@cunning ingot He's still technically rubber :troll:

[hollow forge]

I was about to call kazenbo unnecessary, until it showed up to burn orochi

[viral stirrup]

@dull galleon @fringe crystal stop requesting.

[cedar temple]

if hes a zoan fruit, just abusing the rubber properties of the fruit?

[terse mango]

He can do all of the things he’s doing doing now without changing the fruit

[iron fox]

i cant imagine luffy fighting black beard in gear 4

[oak briar]

@terse mango why do you think that BB went to Drum Island after a "hito hito no mi" df?

[small root]

So excited for the explanation of devil fruits by vegapunk later on

[oak briar]

There is so much we still don't know

[fringe crystal]

Aw man

[small root]

it’s coming

[cedar temple]

theres no way he doesnt, at least not for long

[clear robin]

One sec I saw a reddit post earlier today

[hollow forge]

if vegapunk doesn't show up after wano, oda is a hack

[cyan locust]

I just need him the moment we leave wano

[dull galleon]

Sorry, thought it was bugged.

[hot bison]

3 years later

[pine gorge]

Francisco "Cheat Code" Vegapunk

[last ravine]

he went from rubber rubber to rubber hose

[small root]

[oak briar]

rubber hoes

[small root]

Facts @subtle trellis

[gritty wagon]

add a second rubber to that sentence and it's gold

[hasty citrus]

Justification is Kaido gonna be soooooooo so happy next chapter when he's getting his ass kicked

[gritty wagon]

rubber rubber to rubber hose 😎

[fleet goblet]

I'd agree with you red if OP had no overarching story.

[cunning ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/yep-thats-a-warn-warning-discord-moderators-moderator-gif-19335146

[foggy minnow]

going back to this phrase, this along with Luffy's awakening causing him to have cartoony effect and laugh his ass off would explain why Oda would've made the decision to change the fruit name

[cyan locust]

He was a hack all along

[cedar temple]

we really thought luffy had the gomu gomu no mi, this mf was a god this whole time

[undone rose]

stylistic choice 4 sure

[hot bison]

Yup look at this.

Luffy's fruit is spreading smiles.

[cunning ingot]

@subtle trellis for swearing

[hot bison]

OI

[hollow forge]

peak fiction

[small root]

Me too , hopefully

[devout kernel]

He had the confused star thingie also

[foggy minnow]

[hasty citrus]

Luffy even put a smile on Kaido's face bro

[terse mango]

So the smiles are because of the fruit and not because of Luffy?

[placid nebula]

Ban red

[pine gorge]

I'm just happy Kaido is finally getting his ass beat and enjoying it

[abstract zealot]

Fighting is the weakest part of the story imo

[small root]

This is my peak

[clear robin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/tokct1/the_latest_development_in_ch1044_has_been_planned/

Shows some stuff for Nika in early one piece

[terse mango]

Snorepiea

[cedar temple]

SKYPIEA IS SO GOOD

FOXY ARC TOO

BRUH

[devout hawk]

I think that's just Oda being cartoonish and not an actual power from the fruit

[small root]

Skypeia haters should just be ignored Adam

[terse mango]

LRLL>> tho

[abstract zealot]

Skypiea is my favorite

[signal wadi]

They’re reading the wrong story lol

[pine gorge]

Aokiji Arc is good, I agree

[frozen hamlet]

LRLL is Luffy's true peak.

[fleet goblet]

I'd agree with you red if there weren't a lot of other more serious themes to the story too.

[placid nebula]

When do we start laughing at people skipping Skypia

[hollow forge]

idk, all this nika stuff only came out in full force upon awakening the fruit

[clear robin]

Foxy actually sucks in the anime

I liked Foxy in the manga a lot more though

[foggy minnow]

haven't we been doing that

[devout kernel]

I actually skipped the foxy arc when i was tryna catch up a few yrs ago had to go back and rewatch it 💀

[hollow forge]

but yeah, it probably had some influence before this chapter

[placid nebula]

But now more than ever..

[slate summit]

YUp

[sonic leaf]

I can't stand the foxy arc

[hollow forge]

foxy arc was funny man

[iron fox]

enel restarting his heart is still one of the most badass scenes

[cedar temple]

the foxy arc is hilarious its so goodo

[viral stirrup]

@ruby junco the G5 looks a lot like the first volume cover w/ luffy

love it

[hollow forge]

zoro and sanji working together was really good

[clear robin]

did you read or watch it

[small root]

[foggy minnow]

remember when Luffy literally made a "fireworks" attack

[small root]

Yes

[sonic leaf]

watched

[hot bison]

Man compares this plot twist to the last jedi

[fleet goblet]

You can't just go full goofy and also try and present a serious story at the same time. They're very opposite elements.

[hasty citrus]

Fireworks was always one of my favorites

[terse mango]

No one piece arc/moment will touch lrll

[devout hawk]

what the fuck is this shit? popeye bs bluto?
Yes

[gritty wagon]

Honestly I feel like the fruit change is Oda's in-universe way of justifying giving Luffy this "walking cartoon" moveset

[clear robin]

yeah, foxy in the anime was god awful because of how much it was extended, it was good in the manga

[small root]

It’s…exactly the point of what it is

[last ravine]

me picking up 2 seats at once to impress the class

[cedar temple]

how much longer do yall think one piece has? after wano?

[signal wadi]

Yeah you can

[ruby junco]

Very incorrect

[cedar temple]

i feel like not that much longer, no? or maybe even another 20 years who knows lmfao

[hollow forge]

I don't think the rest of this fight will be totally goofy and cartoony lol, we'll still get that cathartic and emotional finish

[ruby junco]

Juxtaposition works best with things that can contrast or compare that well

[undone rose]

yeah exactly theres just a bit more too it that help tie everything together

[ruby junco]

This is exactly what Oda should do

[small root]

I agree @cunning ingot his drum island quote is proof of this

[ruby junco]

It is the perfect enemy to the World Government on a level that no other character ever could have been before

[hasty citrus]

Oda leaves many roads open

[foggy minnow]

it seems goofy now, but Oda has always done a good job of making something seem cartoony and absolutely ridiculous and make it look badass on 100 levels

[small root]

Drum island themes came out of coincidence

[ruby junco]

even Luffy wouldn't have been as well as this

[foggy minnow]

next chapter I swear we'll all be crying from Gear 5 badassery

[hollow cipher]

eh like 300 chapters maybe

[ruby junco]

Just calling him symbolically "Joyboy" isn't nearly as impactful as a concrete chain straight to what is apparently the archetypical symbol of freedom itself

[sonic leaf]

I think at some point I will read the manga from the start

[hasty citrus]

Luffy's crazy ass attacks will make more sense on reread

[cedar temple]

im just waiting for that balckbeard fight, gear five really changes things now

[frozen hamlet]

If I don't cry you're gonna pay ✊

[foggy minnow]

you will

[hot bison]

We just going to ignore kaido flirting with Luffy?

[small root]

Can’t wait until gum gum UFO is viable and zoro just looks at it in absolute awe

[gritty wagon]

i adore ufo

[hasty citrus]

Gomu gomu baka G5 mode

[hollow cipher]

fr, idk if there are gonna be any more forms or if he'll just train with the forms he has already

[placid nebula]

Let's also talk about the lack of Zoro here.. he dead

[small root]

The zoro mystery lingers

[foggy minnow]

bad swordsman, being dead while his captain achieves his greatest power

[fleet goblet]

I don't take the fight seriously when it's not being presented seriously. yet it's supposed to be serious. That's all I'm saying.

[last ravine]

dw hes gonna revive and have ushimarus blue hair

[cedar temple]

lets see, cause what if blackbeard gets a third fruit? luffy has new haki and a new form, he can hit without touching idk theres a lot to digest now

[viral stirrup]

the point i feel is that contrast though choc

especially here is it poignant

[placid nebula]

Maybe the grim reaper just came to great the new King of Hell and took him with him to introduce the hell workers

[viral stirrup]

i can understand if its like "kaku giraffe cube"

[signal wadi]

I loved that

[wet grotto]

LUFFY goes Super Saiyan

[last ravine]

the WHITE SHIRT

[placid nebula]

Bad vice captain..

[ruby junco]

You're unironically reading the wrong series tho

[slate summit]

Red

[small root]

The last color you’d expect

[foggy minnow]

it's either yellow or white

[pine gorge]

I hope he isn't a flesh mass

[terse mango]

Light yellow

[small root]

Is what it’ll be

[last ravine]

WHITE SHIRT

[abstract zealot]

Thinking gold

[hot bison]

WHITE HAIR
GOLDEN HAIR ENDS
WHITE SHIRT

[placid nebula]

Nah hair is 🔥🔥🔥

[viral stirrup]

the pink shirt is kinda hype

[terse mango]

It’s all light yellow

[last ravine]

if the hair is steam is he gonna be bald under it?

[hollow forge]

that hair better be literal fire

[undone rose]

people keep drawing the shirt as like white or light pink but i dont get why

[cunning ingot]

I thought his hair would be blonde personally, but nice coloring.

[hollow forge]

I have a gear red agenda to push

[hollow cipher]

this shit cool, everyone agrees

[pine gorge]

The Wano Fade™️

[gritty wagon]

I'm thinkin something like this, for the changed clothes

either yellow or pink

[cedar temple]

what if its purple?

[hot bison]

You motherfucker

[cedar temple]

hm?

l;mfao

[hollow forge]

YES

IT IS FIRE

[gritty wagon]

Gear Red

[hollow forge]

SHUT UP

[devout hawk]

I think he's just glowing. The shirt is the same color, just glowing. That's why it's now drawn white

[last ravine]

gear red

[pine gorge]

Bruh, what happened to Folarin?

[hollow forge]

ITS HAPPENING

[terse mango]

No Big Mom’s fire hire looks just like Luffy’s hair here

[hollow cipher]

gear red...?

[signal wadi]

Gear dead

[cyan locust]

Banned

[undone rose]

it just seems weird that his clothes would change, his hair seems as tho its fire tho which I find kind weird but i dont mind too much

[gritty wagon]

exactly what i wanted to bring up lol

[hollow forge]

YES RIGHT HERE

[pine gorge]

Damn lol

[gritty wagon]

I think the fire idea comes from that spread

[devout hawk]

R

[hot bison]

I'm getting hair colouring flashbacks now fats

[pine gorge]

Luffy Masters goes hard

[placid nebula]

Dude this looks awesome..

[foggy minnow]

I kinda wonder why Luffy is shown as kinda skinnny/less muscular than he was back in Udon

[hollow cipher]

yea we just have to wait for oda lol

[viral stirrup]

we're gettin the colouring next chapter

[abstract zealot]

Now that I think about it, why was he melting?

[hollow forge]

you see the vision 🤝

[abstract zealot]

Cause nothing about how he looks now looks melted

[hollow cipher]

damn

[hardy roost]

yes

[hollow forge]

also yeah, luffy's hair looks like big mom's fire hair

[hot bison]

Shirt is white

[gritty wagon]

yeah

[abstract zealot]

Cause the color palette

[hot bison]

Fight me

[abstract zealot]

Orange red and red wouldn't look right together

[placid nebula]

Color scaling

[slate summit]

Why would his fruit affect the color of his clothes

[terse mango]

You couldn’t tell for BM either though

[hollow forge]

steam would look like ass wtf

[undone rose]

fire just also makes more sense cause like sun god

[hollow forge]

fire >>>>>>>>>>

[hot bison]

I think it's like this but golden ends

[terse mango]

She didn’t have glow with her fire hair

WEAN

WEANNNNNNNNN

[foggy minnow]

his arms looks nicely muscular in this one in comparison to the panel

[gritty wagon]

[timber remnant]

That would be sick

[placid nebula]

Luffy did it against Oars before too

[last ravine]

it would be an immensely funny week if the hair ends up being coincidentally blue

[terse mango]

WEAN WEAN WEAN WEAN WEAN WEAN WEAN WEAN WEAN WEAN

[hasty citrus]

Solid

[hot bison]

Cause his shirt went from black to white

[pine gorge]

FATS COMIN IN CLUTCH

[terse mango]

[undone rose]

yeah exactly

[viral stirrup]

no

[last ravine]

kid is cool

[viral stirrup]

[foggy minnow]

no we can't actually

[meager dew]

THE SILENCE LMFAO

[hollow cipher]

idk

[viral stirrup]

LOL

[oak briar]

I prefer Law cya

[last ravine]

[undone rose]

kidd who

[abstract zealot]

Kid still used Haki on that bull tho

[hollow cipher]

[dull cedar]

Kidd is awesome

[foggy minnow]

I think I'd rather talk about Anana than Kid

[slow breach]

Kid is cool

Law is cool

[placid nebula]

This is how Adam read the chapter

[hot bison]

Kidd would be cooler if he had eyebrows

[terse mango]

Based

[hot bison]

I just can't take him seriously

Where are his eyebrows

[foggy minnow]

Kid's always been just there for me, starting in Udon he became somewhat cool and interesting to at least want to keep up with

[hot bison]

Wtf????

[fleet goblet]

I am the opposite. I was actually pretty positive on the last chapter. but this one is stinky.

[placid nebula]

Choc is more negative than Usopp..

[gritty wagon]

whaaa

[fleet goblet]

yes

[hot bison]

WHAT

[meager dew]

ah hell nah

[terse mango]

I would’ve taken possession

[hot bison]

Possession sucks I'm sorry

[fleet goblet]

I think possession was infinitely better than this

[gritty wagon]

you too???

[last ravine]

stoop is probably the most negative about this chapter tbf

[hollow cipher]

Wtf

[devout hawk]

nah, possession would have been much worse

[fleet goblet]

INFINITELY better.

[viral stirrup]

nah stoop is just a drama queen

[placid nebula]

Honestly, it staying gomu gomu would be better for me too

[foggy minnow]

alright time to remove talking perms for bet losers again

[hot bison]

I would have preferred just awakening

[fleet goblet]

depends on the source of the possession.

[abstract zealot]

Possession would have been dogshit

[hot bison]

But I take this over possession

[terse mango]

[fleet goblet]

he's not reaching.

[viral stirrup]

@dusk glacier stop requesting

[gritty wagon]

this banter

[oak briar]

exactly Vic

[fleet goblet]

how often do people awaken fruits?

[placid nebula]

Because Luffy is a D.

[cunning ingot]

i love to discuss all of the little buffoony details about the series, but EOTD I just like to ride along with the goofy stuff oda does

[abstract zealot]

Adam stretching like HE ate the gum gum

[dusk glacier]

😂 damn

lmfao

[fleet goblet]

We've seen hundreds of fruit users, and a single digit amount of people have awakened.

[sly zephyr]

l can talk here so I just wanna say choc

[hot bison]

You are not ALLOWED

[sly zephyr]

possession fucking sucked

[last ravine]

[fleet goblet]

it's better than this

[devout hawk]

there are 9 awakened people and we may never see again almost half of them

[fleet goblet]

idc

lol

[viral stirrup]

gottteeem

[foggy minnow]

lmao

[undone rose]

ayeee

[unkempt needle]

I mean but even if awakening is the trigger, no other person alive had the opportunity to be joyboy

[hollow cipher]

Lmfao

[fleet goblet]

this is just "oh, ignore everything bad about how this happened, and it's good actually"

[hollow forge]

possession would've been dogshit

[mossy marlin]

[sly zephyr]

joyboy beating kaido? sucked 100x more than plain possession

[hollow forge]

that directly goes against luffy's freedom lol

[dusk glacier]

does gear 5 like technically count as it being awakened? or is this just him and joyboy powers

[cunning ingot]

that's too far, there are good things to this I think

[foggy minnow]

Gear 5 is the awakening

[fleet goblet]

again, depends on the source and what kind of possession

[hasty citrus]

Gear 5 is his awakened state

[hot bison]

1. Luffy has gomu gomu but awakens that's it
2. Luffy had a different fruit this whole time
3. Luffy gets possessed by the spirit of joyboy

That's my list of preferences

[placid nebula]

Requirements = Strong, good adaptation and being a member of a fucking D. Clan

[hollow forge]

reincarnation and possession would've both been bad

[viral stirrup]

[hardy roost]

Lmao

[sly zephyr]

I think joyboy beating kaido would genuinely make me hate this arc

[foggy minnow]

Shanks is a fucking snitch

[meager dew]

HOLY

[hollow forge]

and oda went with neither, thank god

[cunning ingot]

🐀

[foggy minnow]

and we will get his ass

[slate summit]

[cunning ingot]

[hollow cipher]

🐀

[hot bison]

I want to see Luffy not joyboy

[last ravine]

shankboy

[dusk glacier]

does this mean that now when hes normally using his fruit it will be more powerful now? like it should rihgt

[undone rose]

nahh fruit doesnt make them the joyboy

[terse mango]

The fruit chose Luffy

[dusk glacier]

thats what awakening is

[slow breach]

[fleet goblet]

It's based on a horrible premise fats. It's already bad. You can't save a building built on a shit foundation, no matter how good the rest of it.

[cunning ingot]

[placid nebula]

Oh shit Evans in there too?? Since when?

[signal wadi]

Didn’t you already hate it cause Zoro fought King?

[cunning ingot]

I think the full foundation is yet to be revealed, at least for me. Some more explanation can make this work

[cloud hazel]

yeah that was discussed

[subtle trellis]

@thin goblet makke sure to talk here

[sly zephyr]

no that was cool

[dull galleon]

I'd like to contribute that there's a lot that we don't know in regards to Mythical Zoans and their nature. No mythical Zoan, aside from Kaido, has ever shown a hybrid form. We also have to note that a Human eating a Human-Human Fruit won't get a typical transformation like other Zoans.

[rocky sand]

bro dead ass call shanks a bitch

[hot bison]

People that got the gomu gomu killed themselves cause it sucked so much that's why the government ignored them

[terse mango]

Mr 5 slander.....

[foggy minnow]

well I mean outside of what Luffy has gained up until this point, everything he's doing with awakening is pretty much just an extension of what he can normally do

[viral stirrup]

👃

[cloud hazel]

definitely i support the belief that people had the "gomu gomu" but fucked up in trying to awaken it

[dull galleon]

No Gum-Gum Fruit?

[oak briar]

Who's who: am I a joke to you?

[viral stirrup]

"respect the booger flicking dawg" -red

[dusk glacier]

@viral stirrup how does a man like me get onto stage or is it simply not possible 😕

[foggy minnow]

presumably he'll be stronger but he won't use awakening until the next big battle I presume

[fleet goblet]

booger flicking was what 99% of people would call a "creative" application of the fruit, it's just that explosions suck

[dusk glacier]

mmmm i hope that this doesnt become some insane power that is useless next fight

[placid nebula]

Yeah, why didn't one of the marines eat it if it was this powerful?

[dull cedar]

reading the chapter with the OST made it godly to read

[undone rose]

hiyori part >

[slow breach]

Wait until the end

[dusk glacier]

thats what i did too

[last ravine]

kanjuro redeemed btw evan won

[sly zephyr]

the fruit never got to the marines

[hot bison]

HES STRETCHING TIME

[abstract zealot]

The hiyori part was boring to me tbh

[viral stirrup]

yeeeeeees

[gritty wagon]

REFLECT

[placid nebula]

The WG had it at some point

[viral stirrup]

i loved those panels.

[cloud hazel]

hiory was an interesting scene, but imma be real i was like "NAH GET BACK TO LUFFY"

[oak briar]

you mean this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jTHNBKjMBU

[hasty citrus]

The panel I think could be a joke

[sly zephyr]

it was on a ship, meant to transfer it to the WG

[abstract zealot]

Feel like it should have been in a different chaper

[thin goblet]

sorry

[hasty citrus]

Like a cartoon bullet stopping in time for the character to do some joke to block it

[hot bison]

STRETCHING TIME

[gritty wagon]

This chapter's gonna be fun to see animated actually

[placid nebula]

Do we know from where or to where?

[subtle trellis]

@stuck sable zoan

[foggy minnow]

if Gear 5 is exactly what I think it is,
then the following chapters of the fight has amazing potential once it gets to a more serious/emotional climax

[terse mango]

Do we know if the gorosei now are the same gorosei 13 years ago?

[undone rose]

prob

[cloud hazel]

bro imagine getting shot at with the most powerful beam in the world and just fucking laughing like some friend made a 10/10 joke lmfao

[hot bison]

I think we saw them in chapter 0

[abstract zealot]

It feels like it got in the way of the Luffy stuff. Would have liked it in a different chapter

[dull galleon]

@subtle trellis Rabbit-Rabbit Fruit: Model Bugs Bunny

[dusk glacier]

trying to guess what colour everything is until the final coloured panels is the most mentally challenging part of the entire series

[mossy marlin]

anyone else think imu prob has the resin god fruit

[meager dew]

[fleet goblet]

I don't think so. It's already contradictory that Gorosei said WG has never had the fruit after 800 yrs, they've done nothing serious about luffy until right now. I can't take the WG as a serious threat they were meant to be established as. They're just idiots who happen to be in control of the WG

[dusk glacier]

i had no clue that he would be coloured like that

[gritty wagon]

i feel very weird about it being a zoan now

[stuck sable]

i was talking about anime only but yeah

[mossy marlin]

[slate summit]

[hasty citrus]

Yes, Luffy is classed as a zoan and a rubbery zoan at that

[placid nebula]

They are the same since 800 years, they eat a golden ball, the ones which we saw in the OVA of movie Gold

[fleet goblet]

the only good thing about luffy being a zoan is that it breaks the stupid fucking number theory.

[last ravine]

mythical zoan != zoan

[fleet goblet]

which is probably why stoop quit

[terse mango]

Does it break the number theory?

[fleet goblet]

yes.

[viral stirrup]

it does

[terse mango]

It’s still 1,10 no?

[hasty citrus]

You'd think that Choc but they are still saying Enel will join now

[hot bison]

I like to think kaido is already awakened

[last ravine]

THE COMMUNITY IS SAVED

[hot bison]

Cause kaido not being awakened would suck

[gritty wagon]

SPECIAL PARAMECIA CHOPPER

[hardy roost]

I just wanna see how the fruit changing will affect his attacks names

[gritty wagon]

SHAPESHIFT FRUIT CANON

[sage cipher]

Remember how big mom and kaido each attacked him and luffy said lightning dont affect him coz hes rubber and fire doesnt affect him because of his guts. Is it really guts?

[sly zephyr]

not revealed yet but considering the words of the Gorosei, it wasn't from them to some place else, it was likely from the source to the Gorosei

[abstract zealot]

Who is Will

[foggy minnow]

mythical zoan awakening may as well just be paramecia + zoan awakening all in one
Luffy's awakening sets a new stage of potential establishments for zoans

[placid nebula]

Why not send CP0 or admirals for something so important

[hot bison]

Robin has the hito Hito no Mi model Durga brook has the hito Hito no Mi model grim reaper

This whooole time

WoooOaaoooOOo

[timber remnant]

Stop

[foggy minnow]

Luffy never had a normal human form with this fruit

[timber remnant]

Please

[cyan locust]

Inb4 there was a real paramecia gomu gomu no mi

[hot bison]

Gears are not forms

[gritty wagon]

If we get different G5 forms then I don't feel as bad about not having more G4 forms lol

[oak briar]

wrong pic

[hollow forge]

wanted something like this?

[lilac osprey]

whaddup

[terse mango]

Yay more ambiguous devil fruit categories. As if paramecia weren’t enough

[foggy minnow]

it honestly feels like Luffy just had the one permanent form
the Gears can't necessarily count as forms since those are from Luffy's imagination

[hollow forge]

oh

[gritty wagon]

i like this compilation

[rocky sand]

hehe

[hot bison]

Wtf daylights saving it just went from 1am to 2am ARE YOU KIDDING MEEEEEEE

[hollow cipher]

this is cool

[thin goblet]

would explain his other abilities like the fire he uses

[cyan locust]

Just wait until vegapunk explains that all categories are just name sake and made-up by people

[foggy minnow]

it brings more truth to this

[hasty citrus]

Onimaru

[oak briar]

I believe Oda drew Snakeman like this on purpose

[placid nebula]

Why is brook not considered special paramecia ?

[last ravine]

marco dosent really have a hybrid either does he

[gritty wagon]

the hito hitos are weird

[terse mango]

Zoans are still worst df category btw

[sly zephyr]

we don't know the full context, it's possible that the only one nearby was cp9 lol, or it was just cp9 who stumbled upon it. Either way it makes no difference, the fruit can be carried by anyone since no one should know about it for it to be stolen, but presumably that was a miscalculation

[undone rose]

is it just me or does the last panel of 1043 not really relate to what we see in 1044 cause it looked like he was melting or something

[hot bison]

I think this is what sengoku hybrid looks like

[placid nebula]

Imagine G5 is his hybrid, and his full Zoan is the sun 🌞

[gritty wagon]

vain pls

[sage cipher]

Whats Kaidos awakening gonna be?

[last ravine]

just wait till kid gets revealed to have the earth gods fruit

[terse mango]

I’ll drop

[fleet goblet]

no

[foggy minnow]

erm red

[fleet goblet]

did you want us to?

[placid nebula]

Politics

[subtle trellis]

[sage cipher]

Remember how big mom and kaido each attacked him and luffy said lightning dont affect him coz hes rubber and fire doesnt affect him because of his guts. Is it really guts?

[rough flint]

@foggy minnow you're muted

[subtle trellis]

get fuckked

[placid nebula]

Kick Macks pls

[pine gorge]

I'll join, if that's cool

[placid nebula]

If you're cool you can join of course

[viral stirrup]

thinking these may be the human form, hybrid and beast form

[abstract zealot]

Kaido looks STRESSED

[oak briar]

god

[hollow forge]

freely going into larger-than-gear 3rd and 4th forms

[gritty wagon]

calling it now

[undone rose]

when you skip leg day

[gritty wagon]

we'll get an actual giant luff with gear fifth

[placid nebula]

What if he can turn into nightmare Luffy again if he just imagines it

[devout hawk]

did Luffy tear his shirt?

[sage cipher]

How much does his life shorten after using gear 5?

[pine gorge]

How does one join?

[dusk glacier]

luffy is poor, i dont see him with a bb belt

[oak briar]

when the bed sheet is stuck under the mattress

[cunning ingot]

my goat

[last ravine]

considering its base luffy with more steam its like gear 2 2

[cyan locust]

Luffy imagines kiado's dead and sleeps

[sly zephyr]

I think all these are just Luffy having full control over his body

[terse mango]

[placid nebula]

Talk about this massive Upper body

[hollow forge]

this is luffy's peak thematically

[viral stirrup]

LOL who is this guy

gorosei goofy ass

[last ravine]

absolute unit

[pine gorge]

@timber remnant how does one join?

[terse mango]

Gorbachevbros

[sly zephyr]

it's just white now, remember, clothes stay safe no matter what

[viral stirrup]

request first cam

[viral stirrup]

then ill accept u

[placid nebula]

Also, what do you think about Zoans having their own will?

[timber remnant]

Request to join by raising your hand

[viral stirrup]

sengooku

[woeful thunder]

Would you look at that? I can talk here

[signal wadi]

This is a call out post. Vic was doomposting saying it was garbage then he changed his tune after a nap.

[sly zephyr]

makes 20000% sense, was practically confirmed already

[devout hawk]

no, look at his arms. he's got bare arms but his shirt had sleeves

[terse mango]

Does this mean yamato is awakened?

[timber remnant]

Reminder that everyone here was caught in 4K

[woeful thunder]

Do i have to be in vc to talk here tho?

[cunning ingot]

dude

fuck off

[viral stirrup]

fake news

[timber remnant]

LOL

[cunning ingot]

again out of context

[hollow forge]

I did postulate this before, that maybe every mythical zoan is awakened

[last ravine]

still need to remove fats from this lol

[foggy minnow]

didn't catch me 🏃‍♂️ 💨

[cyan locust]

No

[woeful thunder]

Reminder that each and every one of them is your alt

[placid nebula]

I mean, does that mean only Zoans have? Because that sounded like that

[hollow forge]

I ain't here

[terse mango]

If this is true then I will accept the df change.

[viral stirrup]

nah its funnier like this

[cunning ingot]

REMOVE ME

[oak briar]

well fats was technically correct

[cunning ingot]

SLANDER

[hollow forge]

the whole koi -> dragon story for kaido would fit then

[viral stirrup]

bro im crying rn

[last ravine]

you see its funnier when theres more staff

[signal wadi]

Fats, how was the ramen bro

[woeful thunder]

Remove yourself...?

[viral stirrup]

whenever fidgety speaks that fucking turtle dude

[sly zephyr]

I think that's just cross hatching but idk

[viral stirrup]

im dead

[rapid lake]

Recorded?

[viral stirrup]

no

i told fats to smile, i had your back

[cunning ingot]

it was delicious and authentic wanze

[timber remnant]

More than half of the staff taking Ls

[cunning ingot]

thank you

[rapid lake]

…oh

[rough flint]

A screenshot im not apart of 😎

[devout hawk]

you know what? It could be

I'm thinking on Marco being able to produce blue fire in human form - maybe initially he was just like that

[viral stirrup]

fats just a bucky little fella

[hollow forge]

yeah, that's what I'm thinking too

[placid nebula]

I'm saying it now.. G6 won't ever happen and that idea alone is shit.

[surreal yoke]

You have your own screenshot

[gritty wagon]

missing piece of the puzzle 😔

[hollow forge]

as another possible exmaple, yamato could use ice powers but not actually transform into the real creature before awakening

[thin goblet]

Sword could be apart of this

[last ravine]

i did attemot to look you up but didnt find anything funny enough

[rough flint]

They hated me because I spoke the truth

[foggy minnow]

I mean when you have quotes like these from Luffy himself...

[rough flint]

I am the GALILLEO OF THE SERVER

[surreal yoke]

[terse mango]

Oda needs to correct the jailer beast awakening stuff.

Mythical Zoans unlocking their zoan form only after awakening and having a paramecia/logia power prior will smooth everything over in my eyes.

[woeful thunder]

Next gear: reverse. And then luffy is a convertible, and dababy is right, win win, am i rite or am i rite?

[sly zephyr]

I think this really is the peak

[foggy minnow]

no further up to go

[pine gorge]

Am I muted?

[hollow forge]

it seems strange, but luffy never turned into nika until he awakened

[cunning ingot]

fixed

[oak briar]

Luffy himself said it lmao

[viral stirrup]

fake news

[surreal yoke]

[cunning ingot]

cope rokaya

[rough flint]

well i dont hear you at least but discord doesnt have you as muted

[fleet goblet]

most of these points are good.

[cunning ingot]

keep creating my water supply

[signal wadi]

Copekaya

[terse mango]

I’ve always supported gear 5, you hack

[surreal yoke]

I agree with some of them

[hollow forge]

it's never been explained how the jailers ended up like that, I've theorized before that the WG performed experiments to force some type of defunct awakening on them

[cunning ingot]

I always did too, just not when youtubers wanted it

[timber remnant]

[cunning ingot]

yeah it is

[hollow forge]

main point is, awakening needs to be explained

[cunning ingot]

what's the trouble

luffy is fucking kaido

[gritty wagon]

😭

[hollow forge]

and whether mythical zoans differ from regular zoans in that regard

[timber remnant]

Lmao

[fleet goblet]

Awakening was always gonna happen, and awakening was always gonna be called Gear 5.

[placid nebula]

Sexy af

[woeful thunder]

Ye wait 1000 more chapters for awakening explanation

[last ravine]

oda shadowfored this

[gritty wagon]

idk buri

[hot bison]

Kaido did flirt with him after all

[viral stirrup]

💤

[gritty wagon]

tigerman would've been cool too

[hollow forge]

lol, but I do think vegapunk is up next after wano

[cunning ingot]

mfs need to dig back 4 years ago to touch me

[gritty wagon]

not for this fight though

[rough flint]

I think Oda forgot about tankman (not full form)

[gritty wagon]

just like, in concept

[rough flint]

😔

[woeful thunder]

In elbaf? Well see

[gritty wagon]

g4 forms were cool

[viral stirrup]

@pine gorge did you leave by mistake lol

[hollow forge]

no guarantees elbaf is next

[gritty wagon]

give me normal tankman pls

[sly zephyr]

I think Luffy can go into tankman in gear 5th

[gritty wagon]

it won't be as cool arsal

[sick inlet]

hey and think this, maybe luffy can use his awakeing to develop a gear 6. and following the cars gears, maybe luffy can use a "reverse gear"

[gritty wagon]

give me gear fourth tankman (normal)

[hollow forge]

tankman is finally coming back

[thin goblet]

i agree

[sly zephyr]

never

[last ravine]

unstuffs your tankman

[gritty wagon]

if anything Luffy would just shape his arm into a shield for G5

[woeful thunder]

Tankman is a myth. Theres only the fat version of it cuz luffy came up with it on the spot. Yall gotta stop listening to fake news

[pine gorge]

I'm trying to reconnect with a new headset