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Comparing Jinbe to carrot is an awful comparison
what are we discussing?
Latest chapter
Yeah but just before that you have the farewell to vivi so you forget about what happened with Robin and luffy
ah
Carrot so nothing uch
To be fair Sulong Carrot was important for escaping WCI
carrot is meh
Uh
I think carrot is more of a Paulie than a crocodile
Luffy wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for Jinbe
What>
true
Carrot in WCI was not more important than Jinbe was at impel down and Enies lobby
Luffy wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for x this is like mad libs
Akainu just kills him then
all carrot really did was help out nami

I agree with Bean
Paulie wasn't a bad charatcer tho
But carrot is a Paulie now
rayleigh would've talked no jutsu luffy if jimbei wasn't there.
stag beetle?
Fourtricks?
I mean I don't renember Paulie in Ring a Long arc
Me neither
He stayed in one arc
why are you bringing up a nameless character???

Wait
because carrot's being treated the same as a nameless character
I a dumbass
i don't even remember who paulie is
Rope guy
same
retract my 5 last sentence
From W7
who tf paulie
Rope guy from Water 7
I still can't believe he was just good with ropes
imo carrot is just chilling
I thought he had a DF 
Hes like Zoro, the master of ropes
and i highly doubt anyone will forget carrot.
Who is just good with ropes
definitely not
What the Franky Crew doing rn
Bias 
Fuck the 1v1, just a cool moment
Only Paulie
but her impact to me is so miniscule
Paulie was a pretty emotionally important character during the mansion raid during w7
if carrot didn't exist the story would be the same LOL
Is there anyone else in OP who mains ropes
Carrot beating pero would have been hard to write though
King is the only hope for the beast pirates
Number 1 will kill them
I missed the whole Carrot discussion
Carrot pushes Persepro to water
boom I solved it
this page one

xd
carrot dies and neko joins the crew
w
One point for the no spoiler bois
The hints also said "level up" and redon said flashbacks to 2006 which was CLEARLY meant to seem like a new gear
Fucking jebaited this week
Momo awakened his bloodlust
It's more n-no
He bits Kaido's ass and gain kaido confidence
Yeah Evan
Momo bite > Enma confirmed
Folarin was fuming

No it was Luffy unlocking his dragon mount
BM likes luffy
Red bean soup
Big Mom is such a wildcard
when the sky split i was like 

BM like Luffy beating up Kaido**
š
lol
Will try to get luffy to marry her daughter
xD
No!

BM backstabbing kaido 
Yamato with King dialogue

no ā¤ļø
Was that when Mmo ate Kaido ass
No! š
yes 
Oh
Lol nope not yet
kid stans when big mom has 1 bruize on her face
pov you're asking Luffy to join the crew
I see some tic-tac-toe marks on Big Mom š¤ 
kids the new doctor in town
Eustass Kid MD
"omg based king"
Captain Mid
Gamma knife
who cares 
Law gonna gain a new abliltiy which converts all his black hair into white hair
Hawkins should have just use voodoo doll on Kaido tbh
he has blue hair tho
So as far as we know
day 278 XDrake and Apoo are still no where to be seen.
when
tsundere kid
Fagu in shambles
Is Oda disrespecting Kid?
He kinda has to lol if Kaido wins then itās game over
Jesus Christ I read to much balck and white

I mean how much woukdf you do in a hostage scene
Are the only real fights going on:
Killer vs. Hawkins, Kidd and Law vs. Big Mom, Zoro and Sanji vs. King and Queen, Luffy, Momo and Yamato vs. Kaido
Right?
Elbaf BM LETS GOOO
w
Big Mom leaving only to get one-shot by Loki

Ezpz lemon squeezy
apoo vs x drake?
Captail of Wano vs. the Boulder of Omagishma
I love Franky
Franky is the best
Law wondering where Luffy was is interesting, so much for his confidence in him
@teal nova i cant send pics for some reason
Law forgot his sub was still around
uhhh lemme think
Luffy and Yamato vs Kaido
Law and Kid vs BM
Zoro vs King
Sanji vs Queen
Fuku vs Raizo
Killer vs Hawkins
and then w/e Drake/Apoo are doing
Lol, Luffy's been on his ship
Ya need mor perms

sad
Heās Yonko level now!!!!1!1!!1!1
this is sick
It's the fucking dawn
That was very well done

i agree balkan
dawn 
Where's Balkan?
Nami
@cunning ingot tbh it was a bit of a asspull that it was still midnight and not some other moon roration
talking?
Like if it was 2am they would have been fucked
He thinks Adam and Balkan sound the same
lol
Ohhh lol

See?
who does evan, i forget who said that
fleebus mcweebus
New theory- it was a Enel moon
member there mutple moons
its enel guys hes helping
^

lending them a hand


imagine him picking teams


who to cheer on

Oh fuck
"we're fucked"
Wait does this mean his hybrid form has two trunks?
no
Yea through his chest
peros will make candy organs guys
If Kin can live Peros can
Looks like it's through the chest yeah
Peroserpo is deader than Vivi chances as a SH
sword gut kick!
I hope we get a beautiful full page spread of Onigashima over the capital
4 opponents left
Yea queen going next
King next
Why did I forget the name of the capital's name... I feel so dumb
Kaido, Big Mom, King, and Queen
No awakening
Fukura whatever his name has more stamina than Peros and Jack

Yeah Evan, but does it have a different name?

Ulti
Oh okay
nah
Orochi isn't really a oppoent more of a punching bag that alot of people want dead
Bean itās Ulti
Inurashi attack was an iai move in the imgur translation
Ulti has legit been through the wringer
Oh I'm not counting Orochi
Raizo the chad fighting for this long
its shanks
Onigshama boulder is a bigger threat remember its above the capital if they don't defeat him properly
I mean Kaido, Big Mom, King, and Queen
its the lurking legend 
Lurking Boulder*
oh guess he's donezo
Probably dies of over exhausting himself through sulong
Inu getting killed was also a big thing due to that panel of the scabbards and some of them greyed out
I think both Inu and Neko are fine
Inu was one of them
You know who else is going to stay dead adam
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damn
Isn't Smoomite in Wano?
lol

Not on Onigashima
I just realize they been at the waterfall this entire fuckign time
The waterfall was litterally the best defense Wano had
Orochi isn't killing shit
conflicted
Orochi killing Inu after Jack failed to is so bad
What if Inu has some spare Mink Medicine on him and gives it Ashura
lol my man luffy fell and then even got back up and now on roof but BMP nowhere to be found
haha
Orochi having a named attacked over Jack
Imagine being killed by one head Orochi
IMAGINE
Orochi killing his chances of survival wdym
hiyori*
Aka tradegy of Act 4 Tama(Mochi befriender) will get shanked by Orochi
Enel murders Orochi
yikes
I waiting for Jack impel down arc
jack the letdown
Drought of wins

hawkins is goat'd, he wont go down

Hawkins is goating
hawinks survival of the puppets
I was very confused for a second
Lol
you make the puppet out of the unkilable kaido
what would yamato do if luffy wants a 1 v 1?
Heās big
pretty good shield
Fire clouds like kaido
clouds?
clouds
Kaido was human but he can be in dragon form
It's basically putting no strain on Kaido as far as we can tell
Thatās how Kaido flies in dragon form
I figure Momo will have to get used to it at first
it's like a passive background thing once he has it airborne
yamato explains to him how to do it
He can make fire clouds already
Some people think the fruit is actually a failure and weāll see a flaw in it
mac n cheese time brb
Yeah given he's flying means he's already using clouds
mac n cheese, more like whack and pees
Momo wont do shit
i want the flower capital destroyed
Noob momo
if onigashima doesnt fall then id like to see it destroyed via kaido and luffy
the ol zunesha vs kaido
Copium
Zunisha and Momo riding side by side in Final war dude
I was so sad when the voice Momo could hear wasn't Zunesha
Zunesha reached laugh tale with the whole mink women and children..
Jack has taken only Ls since zou 
by yamato nonetheless
He ain't coming back until the last chapter
Is this "best panel in One Piece" thing a meme?
No Moria or Zunesha
worst arc
Hey guys question

When did we see Zuneshia's eyes?
Moria still coming 
I wanna see this now
Wrap around him Lolol
Same as Mihawks eyes.. just look at mihawk

Did we get rid of the Mihawk eye emote?

I think so
adam is right
So thatās why he didnāt drown

I think him biting Kaido was the simplest and most realistic option there. Better than him magically being a great fighter or being able to use a bolo breath just because he is an adult now.
Would you guys like it if Mihawk is from Wano too?
fleeb 
!wanomap
where's adam?
Mihawk was born in Udon



carrot stays in elbaf
She can join grand fleet
new nox theory 
look at hakumai, rearrange that and you basically get mihawk
Raizo fight
I think we pretty much know everything in the log
Besides Momoās revelation
Like why he needs to survive
And the Kozukiās importance
Oden didn't even reveal anything to his scabbards
Doubt he wrote everything in there
yall ever talk about if yamato has the qualities of a king?
I really doubt Yamato knows specifics of Laughtale
Thatās why Iām against the log having more details
We know the big stuff, but there can be minor reveals of Kozuki lore or whatever idk
Momo drops the logbook, Kaido grabs it and then runs away
Momo freaked out over something, that alone means weāre getting some nugget of info
Do you guys think that Oden will have info that won't be revealed to LUFFY, but just to us?
did someone just burp really load???
Thereās gonna be a big reveal as to why momo cannot afford to die either
^
The importance of the kozuki
The SHās know the flashback I assume
At least the Wano part
Vs Kaido
The execution
I donāt think weāre getting a huge Joyboy thing from logbook, just a hint

Red getting mad during Laughtale when we get the Joyboy flashback
āI didnāt want to know ab Joyboy he was cooler as a mysteryā
peace
cya fats
Cya Fats
Nah, Oden is aware of how dangerous it is for him to not tell the scabbards
Worse case scenario the editors prob know ending info but yeah Oda seems fine for now
Oden even said he needs to survive before getting into the pot
Usopp and Brook are the last two SHās without a huge deed in Wano but
Usopp will get elbaf
I'm sure of it
Usopp has a huge chunk of Elbaf just for him id say
Zoro is strong man
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kid will beat her ofc, 5 chapters 
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thatd be overkill
Usopp CoC 
^^^
Thinking Franky gets Haki when he shoots laser beams
Theyāre already taken seriously this arc tbh
At least Zoro and Sanji
6-shot?
Very specific
You know what
Facts
like a revolver 
6 Cocting slashes?

Shanks kills Kaido
Kaido has been much more scary man
Crushes whoever faces him and doesnāt lose
Fear of BM went away when Franky ran her over w a motorcycle
Haki arm growth
ougon busoshoku innit
luffy really just likes punching his friends
??
didnt leos stitches help
lol
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I am not as good with my arguments while typing
Chapter 761 Pages 8 - 9
can i join 
Hi
real asf
Hi
hey ushimaru
Why not
That would be cool
The SSG could have an introduction here
But yeah, they lose in my eyes, that's my issue
No one wants another damsel in distress arc
i think itll seem like robin will be taken but she wont, or itll go differently like she'll go behind enemy lines to gain more info for later
I don't want another Enies Lobby or WCI
its not like theyd be exactly the same
This also feels like just auto-lose
Big Mom won't get close because Kid will be keeping her busy 
this also feels like shewill just be correct
Yeah
Kaido had like
No plan to take Robin until Big Mom brought it up
LOL
Adam, they grabbed onto Momo's tail 
He is Red
True

jack hybrid>>>>>>
the jack hybrid fan club made of 1 person

Jack hybrid lmao
doom is in it too 
2 my bad
yes get it right

i love that detail too about queens attack
non haki stuff being viable constantly
maybe thats the idea behind kid's attacks
regarding pressure
and no haki
not viable vs logia 
well duh 
when can we talk
queens body sitting there waiting for his poop neck to come back
peak fiction
Earl...
Imagine someone pooping in that

The emotions and empathy/sympathy Sanji has makes him stronger 
his moms sacrifice
All of his siblings have powers though, except Yonji kinda
yonji's power is scuffed
It makes sense to me that his fire comes from his germa genes
i think its going to be that the fire isnt due to lunarian or race genes, i think its a side effect of his emotions mixing with germa genes, thats why judge didnt even bother with mentioning it, it was a non variable in his mind, he sawemotions as weakness
it does make sense imo, that that also comes from his genes somehow
would be a valid retcon
yeah eitherway
Itās a big sword
Yeah I like the idea of Sora influencing Sanji here
sanji running cause hes scared of losing his emotions is completely logical too , id be frozen mentally thinking any move i make will make the germa genes more prominent
He won't lose his emotions and stuff
I feel like Sanji isn't really having a hard time against Queen at all. He still seems to be in good condition despite the beatings he's been taking
he wont lose them but his fear of losing them is logical
Bro if I had a chance of losing my emotions I'd be terrified
He's completely justified for running away to understand his new powers
literally not looking past the surface layer of the scene
Yup
asusual with sanji haters
Oda has potential to surpass the Jabra fight here
We can get a very emotional fight here
lmao true, we have never seen Sanji train, yet he stays basically on par with Zoro.
idk why people are shitting on him for it this time - Queen is following him so no one in the live floor is under threat
Losing emotions needed in order to make friends would be so sad, I totally get Sanji's issue
yeah its fine
Heās a baby geezer
Sanji got really strong by running away from okama XD
cant wait to hear baby geezer chopper in the anime
literally cross country practice for 2 years straight
Queen just wants him to put on the Power Ranger suit
It makes complete sense that Sanji is freaking out over losing emotions. His whole character is driven by emotion. His connection to his mom, Zeff, his dream of All Blue, his connection to his crewmates. If he lost his emotions he would lose ALL of that.
I feel like its going to become the plotline with sanji desparetly trying to escape his whole background but his blood wont let him with losing his emotions
Queen's aim was truly dogcrap
it will definetly be tragic
Evan
the fodder have gifter upgrades evan
Queen is too excited

and this isn't even just the Sanji fight, Queen hasn't hit anyone with these lasers since he started using it
I feel like we might see a flashback between queen and judge due to queen listing off most of the germa abilities or hes just a super fan like law
franky has precision aim with his lasers compared to queen, we clearly know who the better tinkerer is
Exactly. Ppl who are shitting on Sanji for his issues either lack sympathy or are just complete social rejects who don't even know how socializing works
"Come on, fight me big bro"
its just new generational society classifying things to shit on people
If u had the mindset of Sanji's brothers making friends would be nearly impossible
cross out "nearly"
losing his emotions would literally turn him into dark sanji meme
done

Sanji can beat the heart of ice with passion yeah
Burn through it after seeing Nami
not to be one of those guys but it could be like nami or someone else breaks through those lost emotions and gets them back
holy shit, being asimp for nami will savehis life???
lmfaooo
Yep 
this is key
we just need shirahoshi problem solved
They lack empathy
Yeah not emotions
Dark Sanji bakes another cake
It's poison this time
dark sanji being a reality is something i never thought would be fathomable uuntil now lol

Dark Sanji Has Another Nose Bleed This Time Its Poison Blood
LOL
it might be like a zenkai boost everytime he gets a nose bleed he power up and rejuvinates
This chapter was so good
yes
he has his laser shoulders too
or are they missles
and hand claw
Finally, the juice of the chapter 
right the hand claw

jesus queen
"Kid was almost defeated"
Yamato boutta run into him an be like "Oh, you're black leg Sanji! are you okay?" And that will be the moment Sanji loses any chances of becoming coldhearted
Yeah Yamato could run into Sanji too
The spoiler providers hate Kid
Who knows
being a hawkins fan:
Fr
I mean Sanji is fleeing from Queen rn
I think they are both on the live floor
It just depends on where the bombs are
mama raid sounding like marmalade 

Can compete with Queen's chins
what tf would this story be without the supernovas
small note: second time Counter Shock has been used against Big Mom
Kid accidental ryou
To be honest
so a banana is gonna turn into a gun?
I feel like Kid just tanked it
She would probably be holding back because
Big Mom won't go all-out until she has to
Only reason she used CoCting on Page One was because she was mad
Someone said she hit the ground
that in itself is a good argument for her not even being completely serious right now
as we saw on whole cake island
Yeah
Tbh
It's just the shonen thing where she won't go all-out at the beginning
Perhaps it was Hera's lightning that made it a AoE attack that hurt them even if she missed directly dicing them
Napoleon was combined with Hera at the time
So I can understand her not spamming CoCting so far
its not like BM is in a frenzy right now in any form
she is just fuckin around still i think
GUTS
it would not be fear
Honestly, she's fucking around yeah
no anger, no hunger, no grudge, shes just having fun like luffy 
She doesn't expect Kaido to lose
He goes for the kill
There's that to consider too
what about one of the best protagonists in all of fiction
which one had the line about playing with food on the roof?
big mom or kaido?
they had a line
Big Mom is still highkey convinced the supernovas can't measure up to them, so that's probably why she could be holding back
Yeah it looks like it hits Kid
But Law is in the last panel too
there is literally smoke coming off of kid
Maybe Mama-Raid isn't like a direct sword hit?
she hit him i think
Maybe like an AoE?
oh i see
think of sanjis spinning kick i think its like that
oh yea cause if u zoom in on kids cloak theres like tendrils
Anime canon 
like smoke
Yeah the sfx are the same too lmfao
mf be going full ham on analysing
My favorite kid slander meme is Useless Craptain Mid
enjoy the manga
This chapter made me incredibly interested in Kid
Very creative
why thank you rob
enjoying the manga, i mean

Kid was keeping up with Udon Luffy
I like kid though I think heāll shine in the sun soon
Nooo 
The only thing that Luffy has above him is offense
We havenāt seen it yet
And that will be solved soon
Kid hasnt been given much pagetime until this current arc so he still has the potential
faguto typing lets go lets go
the only time we ever really saw kid before this arc was when kaido tried to commit suicide
I think Oda, whether intentional or not, has kept Kid on the sidelines because he always knew he'd shine here and now
and also on archiepelago
I want to see kid use cocting
kid infiltrated big moms territory and took something from her
It's just because Law got so much and Kid has gotten so little
can someone explain what cocting is to me pls
we still dont know what it is
Luffy also has the Happo Navy from Kano
I think that's why people shit on Kid
coc coating
huh
Kid has done some shit
conquerors haki coating
oh
Connections to the underworld too 
thats why the end of this chapter is hype because its opening a big door for kid
killer is a big bro
at the end of this chapter
i like him alot but less than zoro or sanji
Adam isn't wrong
But I mean
The thing with Kid is he just needs more
But don't sleep on him
That's how I see it
that giant sword WILL be used
Itās not shoving in š
kid isnt being shoved in hes been eased into the arc slowly af
Oda's definitely trying to put in time towards Kid this arc, with both character and strength in mind
exactly this is basically his introduction or flesh on his introduction
I don't think its being forced or rushed
Oda trying to shove in panels trying to convince us kid is a rival when every other panel shows he isnt
Kid won't be a Blackbeard
as luffys rival
He'll be a mainstay like Law
well he needs every panel he can get tbh, its fine if its like every other panel, hes fighting right now anyway, not like hes in a discussion scene, theres plenty opportunities to show that
Luffy did everything he did in a month or so while Kid was locked up. If apoo didnāt rat them out and they went along w their plan against shanks Kid wouldāve gotten the same notoriety as Luffy.
mhm
Kid also took something from Big Mom
are all the world destorying weapons found
kidd and luffy doing the dongo training in udon easily showed me that raw strengthwise (take away haki and df ability) kid was competetive level with luffy
eg the water 7 one
He might have Big Mom's Road Poneglyph
that alone
maybe he has something else that he had from WCI to aid him against Big Mom directly
^^^
lost in arm with the red hair pirates
Kidd has fought 3 yonkos so far
Like Sabaody is literally telling us that these three dudes are fucking the new order up
and still surviving
do you guys consider Blackbeard as more of a rival to Luffy than Kidd?
This chapter made me like Kid a lot more tbh
Man, with all this Kid slander
id call him an antagonist
I'm about to just stan Kid

Smh
Rivals donāt always = equals
one doesn't have to be equal to him to be a good rival
what I said earlier rokaya yea
Roger and Garp are rivals
people just hate on him because everybody likes to hate on him
look at kidd right now like luffy in early alabasta when it seemed like luffy was a fish out of waterand in over hishead against crocodile, there is reason to underestimate him sure but hes capable of great things, especially with BM in front of his face
rivals do not have to be equals
And they weren't equals 
Yeah
I thought it was WB with Roger
in fact pre ts kid may have been ABOVE luffy at the time
Yeah rivals are just people who compete for the same thing
Bruh
I think Luffy is just going to share the Road Poneglyphs lol
Kidd will defeat Big Mom, I have 0 doubts
They can fight over the last one
to let the haters know and imma say it now all of the characters literally all of the characters in the new generation still need to develop
it takes adult momo yamato with a mythical zoan and luffy to even stand a chance against kaido
inb4 kidd already had a mink on his crew and they had a copy of the glyph there the whole time 
If weāre talking accomplishments as being a deciding factor for rivals then bb is in a higher league than luffy right?
df awakening

it takes kid and law to try to stand a chance against bm
Or that yeah
i'd call them equal as of post wano rokaya
it takes zoro and sanji to take care of queen and king
cuz luffy has poneglyphs and stuff putting him a bit ahead
but bb is prolly stronger
every character still needs to develop
Yeah thatās fair tbh
I mean you don't need the Road Poneglyphs to get to Laugh Tale since Blackbeard will just awaken his Yami Yami no mi and teleport to Laugh Tale 
bruh
also
what do you guys think of blackbeard
Amazing evil pirate
Listen Adam honestly
Can't Kid still make use of the poneglyphs if he or someone close to him could hear "the voice of all things"?
Kid will have taken a rubbing if Oda wants him too
wait
I feel like the way he got multiple powers is due to his devil fruit

Kidd would say it if he is competing with luffy
the dark dark fruit or if your a weeaboo the yami yami no mi
yooooooooo they should totally davy back fight for glyph rubbings
He has the last one 
as we saw from his abilities
his darkness can suck things up like a vacuum
Crazy fruit He can just take Robin away if he wants to BB
On god
and absorb them
we don't know if Blackbeard even has 1
Blackbeard Pirates will block the Straw Hats at Lodestar
like we saw with whitebeard in the marineford

They'll fight over Robin
so its a possibility
Or Poneglyphs or some shit
that the absorbed whitebeards abilities
davy back fight for robin
due to his devil fruit
Robin got to have that plotarmor
plotarmor gonna thicken











