manga-theories

[pure raven]

When I'm right bout rocks being a former admiral will see then

They giving me disgust bro

[mint prairie]

[pure raven]

Is this the cringe symbol in this server

No

Its the symbol of Disgust but you can use it as the cringe symbol

So what context are you using it here

[mint prairie]

I saw the emoji and I thought it was cool. It's not a common emoji to witness.

[pure raven]

I dunno man. Check the ppl who gave it to you

I didn't @ you there did I bro

[mint prairie]

Ping response is a common thing to do here because the message traffic can be quite fast.

[pure raven]

There was hardly any here so i thought he was talking to me

I'm just saying that i think rocks leaving the navy and becoming a pirate is one of the reasons garp doesn't wanna be an admiral

Which is in line with the main reason of the celestials

Wouldn't sengoku mention it tho when he was talking about him ?

[desert hatch]

thought he didnt want to be the celestial dragons dog

and already had enough freedom

[pure raven]

Yeah it wouldn't really be sengokus place lol

And that would be too many reveals in one chapter lol

You think oda was tryna end one piece in ultimate

[tardy drift]

o

[pure raven]

I think rocks face will he dropped in 1034 or 1032

[tardy drift]

really

[pure raven]

There is no reason for sengoku to hide it. He was telling the rest of the marines about him it's a pretty important detail to left out Although it could be he purposely didn't reveal in order to not dirty the marines

[tardy drift]

thats amazing

if thats true

sorry to budge into the conversation

[pure raven]

The reason he hid it is because he either doesn't know

Or oda wasn't trying to reveal it that early

[pure raven]

Nah we will probably see him in Kaidos flashback

Which is by next year

I have my reasons bri

[tardy drift]

that is prob true

[sinful wedge]

He could appear semi silhoutted if Kaido makes a reference/remembers him in real time

Like with Ushimaru in 1023

[pure raven]

Kaido worked in his crew. So we can either just get a silhouette or his full face

[sinful wedge]

But yeah I expect a full reveal in Kaido's flashback, just like Oden

[pure raven]

We might even see god valley

[tardy drift]

maybe

[pure raven]

Since that's where he got his fruit

[sinful wedge]

We will definitely see God Valley

[pure raven]

Yeah it's major event
In Kaidos life

It will definitely be there in his flashback

[tardy drift]

what i wanna know is what happens to Kaido after Luffy wins

[sinful wedge]

The event of him owing debt to Big Mom has been especially highlighted in 999

If Kaido's character arc is indeed coming to end now, then we are getting God valley

[pure raven]

[alpine forge]

Then we can definitely see the true power of garp

[tardy drift]

yea but i think garp is gonna die son

[pure raven]

Man all these reveals might give kaido the best flashback in the whole series

Shanks is gonna appear in 1034

Which will be the 2nd to last chapter of the year

234 rockstar gave the letter the wb about bb and ace
Tsuru
Bb
Wb
Sengoku were all revealed for the first time

In 434 shanks met wb and talked about blackbeard and ace finally met blackbeard

Rocks always has 2 numbers associated with him
6 and 8

His name being rocks which has the same pronunciation as roku(6)

And 8(hachi) hachinosu which was his base

Rocks face will get dropped exactly

800 chapters after
Wb sengoku tsuru bb and rockstar

And 600 chapters after
Shanks and wb meet to talk about blackbeard

[tardy drift]

they said that

[pure raven]

Lol

[pure raven]

Exactly

[sinful wedge]

I truly do believe volumes 103-105 are going to be nuts and that a lot of hiccups this arc has had would be easily overshadowed by those parts

[pure raven]

Wrong image

Although I don't see his flashback coming by 1034

[tardy drift]

damn

[pure raven]

Its not gonna be a flashback lol

There is literally no reason for oda to reveal his face all of a sudden

Apart from the fact that the act is ending this chapter or next

Him being in a flashback is like the perfect excuse to drop it

[pure raven]

How is the act ending = rocks face reveal

[versed hamlet]

I don't see how 6 and 8 have any correlation? Hachinosu was never stated to be his base, it was simply where most of the crew was formed in, lol. And also there is a huge phonetic difference between Rokkusu and Roku in japanese.

[tardy drift]

i agree

[pure raven]

Hachinosu was said to be the rocks pirate base

Meek stop talking please bro

[mint prairie]

I don't have any comments, I just want to point out Hachinosu can be converted to a number pun as 8 (Hachi) 0 (No) 3 (Su) = 803.
During 803 Kanjuurou draws Ryuunosuke, and the Blackbeard Pirates find the Revolutionary Army's base. Check the wiki entry for that chapter if you want.

[pure raven]

Lol thank you Steph

[tardy drift]

makes sense steph

[pure raven]

😩

Meek so simmer down bro
Please I ask nicely

[tardy drift]

all i know is after onigashima arc shit is going down

[versed hamlet]

No it isnt though

[mint prairie]

I don't believe in number puns because Oda has proven he can conjure stuff on the fly, like when he thought the Supernovas up the week he released their debut chapter. However, I do like number puns.

[versed hamlet]

Not once was it stated that hachinosu was the base of rocks, can you prove your statement

[sinful wedge]

I do love though that a lot of the community doesn't even expect all the shit we're about to get lol

[pure raven]

Is that viz

[pure raven]

Number puns are honestly either a hit or A miss. They are very tricky

[tardy drift]

Oda can sometimes lie but in a way he reveal smth in those lies

[versed hamlet]

Yes it is it is straight from viz

[pure raven]

Yeah hard cap

Because I have the panel for that chapter from viz

[versed hamlet]

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-957 just go to page 5

[pure raven]

I was waiting for you to try brush through a lie again

Why do you do this bro

[pure raven]

Oda about to hit us harder than Kaidos Ragnarok

[versed hamlet]

show me your panel bro

[tardy drift]

Oda is a mad man

[pure raven]

Anyways what do you say about this @pure raven

Meek you have been wrong like 10 times

You were wrong about the roger and wb fight
Yesterday

[versed hamlet]

You can't prove me wrong. That is the viz translation. It wasn't stated that the base of the rocks pirates was hachinosu island.

[tardy drift]

meek

[sinful wedge]

In people's minds right now it's Fights-->Banquet-->The end

[tardy drift]

just stop also you RJ

[pure raven]

Fair enough

[sinful wedge]

Lol I'd love for everyone to keep this simplistic assumption going

[pure raven]

I personally think rocks bounty will get dropped in 1034 or 1033.

And this will reveal his face

Do you have any Other basis aside from the number puns?

[versed hamlet]

Again, you made an argument that was based on an appeal to ignorance. There is no proof going for nor against roger having a wind logia fruit so assuming that that is the case based upon a lack of counterevidence is also fallacious but im gonna sleep now lol

[tardy drift]

no

[pure raven]

There is proof roger has a wind logia

I'm not doing this shit again move on lol

Bruh

Bro ashura I'm not posting this again if you wanna see the theory type rogers df in the search

[tardy drift]

i dont think gol even has a fruit

[pure raven]

You clearly think I'm chatting shit, why don't you read the theory then start saying

Bruh

[tardy drift]

Roger was called the Pirate King. But sadly he did not have a Devil Fruit power. From what we have seen from flashbacks, Roger solely relied on his Haki in battle. He was strong enough to fight foes like Whitebeard and Kozuki Oden.

see

or maybe i am wrong

[pure raven]

Alright cool

[pure raven]

Why do you seem so confident

Its not comfirmed for either

You believe he has no fruit thats fair

But you talking like it's fact, when it gets comfirmed I will dead the theory

[tardy drift]

ik but i think he just had some extreme haki

[half badger]

I think he has also a nice sword

[tardy drift]

also that

[pure raven]

He has a wind based df and a supreme grade sword

[pure raven]

Alright man there is one bit of proof that during the time when roger was battling shiki, shikis fleet was sunk by a sudden gust of win

[tardy drift]

the sword i can understand but a wind df

[pure raven]

Did you even read the theory man

[pure raven]

That's all I could find

[pure raven]

There are like thousands of fucking messages. Your theory is buried

Oh my one sec
You playing with me here man

[tardy drift]

no

[pure raven]

The bounties of the 5 emperors and Roger all had some puns or number play in them that linked to their names or character

I'm not gonna say everyone but for example big mom

4.38811 bill

8(Ha) 8(Ha)
A way of saying mother

Anyway back to Roger

His bounty is 5.56480

6480 when broken down as the kanji for "roja"
The Japanese pronunciation of roger

But the 5.5 part
5(Go) 5(Go)
Go Go is the Japanese onomatopoeia for the SOUND OF FIERCE WIND.

So the Go Go no mi

This would be the same df naming as

Ace fruit
Wbs fruit

Suggesting its wind based logia or paramecia

[pure raven]

Finally thank you

His jolly roger is also not actually a moustache

This is because when roger met and formed the crew with Rayleigh he didn't even have facial hair yet let alone stubble

This means that it represents something else

And it strongly resembles waves or a Gust of wimd

[tardy drift]

really

[pure raven]

Its a good theory

[tardy drift]

the second part don't makes any sense at al to me

[pure raven]

Bro its not comfirmed I'm just giving evidence as to why its likely not that

@pure raven do you know what is the word play on Kaidos bounty? Or shanks?

[pure raven]

Huh give me details so I can help you understand

[pure raven]

I know wbs has shiro which means white in japanese

And I know bbs bounty is the real blackbeards bounty in todays market and then converted into yen

[tardy drift]

gol's roger is a mustache

[pure raven]

Interesting

[tardy drift]

idk how it looks like wind to you

[pure raven]

No its not lol

He has black hair first of all
The jolly roger is yellow

He had no fucking facial hair when he met Rayleigh

So why tf would he make a jolly roger with a damn mustache

[slate mesa]

if roger had a df what about the sickness before reaching raftel

[pure raven]

If we want to confirm that every Yonko has a word play on the bounty then we need to do search for everyone

[pure raven]

Huh

[tardy drift]

ik

[pure raven]

Then why don't you check that out yourself

Theres a post on reddit done by someone who elaborates

[tardy drift]

ok ok i agree with the theory now RJ you are makin sense now

[slate mesa]

it’s not confirmed but buggy the only df user on rogers crew got sick

[pure raven]

Yeah that was clearly because he was scared

[slate mesa]

oh i guess so ya

[pure raven]

He literally said the same shit usopp says everu fucking island

[slate mesa]

lmaoo

[pure raven]

"I got i cant go to that location syndrome"

[tardy drift]

ye right

but gol's sickness might of been caused my the fight between rocks

[pure raven]

Roger the personification of freedom had the wind logia

And the person who inherited his power has the same dream and philosophy of freedom

[tardy drift]

makes sense

[pure raven]

Glad you agree

[slate mesa]

nah roger just had cancer

[tardy drift]

altough what was Gol's death caused by

[slate mesa]

he let them execute him

[pure raven]

He let them merk him

[tardy drift]

i think brooks Captain had the same one as Gol's

[slate mesa]

yo btw who is the guy on chap 1024 is he zoro’s dad

[tardy drift]

no

[sly juniper]

Shimotsuki Ushimaru

[tardy drift]

its uh

i think its Ryuma

[slate mesa]

no ryuma lived a long time ago

[tardy drift]

ye makes sense but

why didn't they show his face

[sly juniper]

they did

[slate mesa]

who ryuma ?

[mint prairie]

Ryuuma's and Ushimaru's faces have been shown in the past.

[tardy drift]

https://www.google.com/search?q=ryuma+one+piece&client=avast-a-1&sxsrf=AOaemvItEHqeUVHtkmwp6qCazs9FlTyTtA:1635843122093&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=4zmIWNif8pZAaM%252Cmt0CVBOIGAuSCM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kRSKuCd_LCgf_pZlOyCsbmYpPhplA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiJ2MzBpvnzAhVohv0HHThUD4cQ_h16BAgREAU#imgrc=4zmIWNif8pZAaM

[slate mesa]

they shows both they’re not the same guy

[tardy drift]

thats Ryuma

[tardy drift]

makes sense i agree with you

[sly juniper]

I still don't see how that makes him the guy in the cave

[tardy drift]

thats what i thought but i was wrong

[slate mesa]

that pic not official is it?

[tardy drift]

which one

[sly juniper]

yeah it's fanart, though he does look similar in Monsters

[slate mesa]

they show him in the manga

[sly juniper]

but yeah, it can't have been Ryuma due to the sole fact that Ryuma's corpse was stolen by Moria while Oden was still alive

[slate mesa]

ya i feel like the guy in the cave is zoros dad

[tardy drift]

yea

[slate mesa]

he looks just like him

[tardy drift]

and maybe zoro is maybe related to Ryuma

[sly juniper]

it's certainly heavily implied he has Shimotsuki blood in him

[pure raven]

Wano has been about alot of guys names

Like momo and the kozuki shit
Orochi and the kurozumi shit
Zoro and the shimotsuki
Sanji and the vinsmoke
Yamato and oden shit

Like people discarding their names

[tardy drift]

yea

[pure raven]

If dragon comes to wano he could follow that theme aswell

[sly juniper]

Denjiro to Kyoshiro, Killer to Kamazo, Onimaru (and Kawamatsu) to Gyukimaru, Yasuie to Tonoyasu, Ashura Doji to Shutenmaru, Hiyori to Komurasaki

[tardy drift]

i hate Dragon

[pure raven]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-you-smart-smart-gif-4495825

Wano has been about people switching up there names

And that makes me even more confident that dragon is rocks son

[slate mesa]

bruh shimotsuki ushimaru is the same guy who that dog/human monk was guarding the bridge for

[tardy drift]

makes sense but that is a crazy theory

[pure raven]

I think another 2 people who bout to come to wano follow this

Belo betty
And dragon

[tardy drift]

maybe

[pure raven]

Belo Betty's real name in my opinion

Is monkey d belo
And dragons is rocks d draco

[slate mesa]

how’d u get those names

[pure raven]

@pure raven I can't translate shanks bounty because my Japanese sucks and google translate doesn't help

[waxen dust]

Dragon somehow being related to Rocks would be a expected twist considering both come across as anarchist, but Garp is clearly Dragon’s father that’s been confirmed in the story already. But that doesn’t necessarily mean Rocks & Dragon can’t have a familial tie of some sorts

[slate mesa]

I wish we could see more interaction between garp and dragon

[pure raven]

Bro i said hop on reddit

[mint prairie]

What's his bounty?

[waxen dust]

more? there hasn’t been any lol

[slate mesa]

lol i mean any haha

[pure raven]

Ace said the sons of world wide criminals can;t become marines

And mr project marine garp, had no words to say.

Theres no way oda just ditched one of the only ways to still make ace relevant to the story

[pure raven]

4,048,900,000

[sly juniper]

if I'm right, it should be yonjuuokuyonsenhappyakukyuujuuman beri

[pure raven]

Well there are a lot of ways to pronounce it

[sly juniper]

which sounds like a mouthful, and it is, but it's written out in digits anyway

[slate mesa]

i get it it’s “happy” cus shanks is happy 😊

[pure raven]

For me it's supposedly shireishihachikyūreireireireireirei

Or in another way

[sly juniper]

what I wrote is how it's pronounced in the anime, at least

[pure raven]

Bless you for giving me that

[sly juniper]

np :)

[pure raven]

https://www.opfanpage.com/2019/09/29/the-meaning-of-the-new-bounties/

Ah thanks

why didn;t you just type "meaning of yonko bounties" instead of doing some translation meth

Like fr bro

I like figuring out things on my own

[slate mesa]

ya it’s more fun

[pure raven]

But Ig I will read someone elses now

Also fuck the one piece fan page I can't see shit it's plagued with ads

... you might aswell since you thought i was chatting shit earlier

I still wont accept the “Rocks face reveal at 1034"

[slate mesa]

wdym

[waxen dust]

usually the bounties have one easter egg, but usually people tend to come up with other puns for headcanon sake

[pure raven]

Yeah bro just wait for that

Alright man

[waxen dust]

Rocks in 1034?

[pure raven]

His face reveal in full colour

Through a bounty poster is my headcanon

[pure raven]

Yes

[slate mesa]

wait how u guys know

[sly juniper]

full colour? in 1034?

[pure raven]

Thats what @pure raven says

Ok im not gonna explain this again since i did earlier.

But i believe rocks face will be revealed via his bounty in chapter 1034
This will be the same chapter the warlords bounties and dragons bounty gets dropped

[waxen dust]

why would there be a need for Rocks reveal now? Unless we’re jumping into a Kaido flashback otherwise Rocks shouldn’t be thrown into the mix

[pure raven]

The act is ending

[waxen dust]

yeah the Act is definitely ending soon, I agree with that

[pure raven]

We are getting interim

Why was there a need for all yonkos bounties and roger and wb in 957

[pure raven]

Yes and now way are we gonna get his flashback by 1034

[waxen dust]

ah so you’re saying we’re getting another intermission on 1034

[pure raven]

Yeah i never said we were getting a flashback

i said we are getting a full definition face reveal

[slate mesa]

bro i hope ep 1000 will be good

[waxen dust]

1031-1033 for the end of Act 3 is possible but then we’ll have to see if 1031 is as major of a chapter as people predicted. Think that will be the biggie indicator as to how long we’ll have for Act 3

[sly juniper]

if we are gonna get acts 4 and 5, I think act 3 will only finish once all other current enemies (King, Queen, etc.) have been taken care of

[mint prairie]

Do you think Act 3 will end mid raid? Because there is a lot of plot threads that shouldn't be interrupted right now.

[waxen dust]

yeah I am still leaning on the idea that all the current raid fights end and then Act 4 is CP0 and BMP, however I can see Act 3 ending and we still have the Monster Trio fights unsettled.
It really depends on how Oda wants to break it up

[pure raven]

the intermission will start from 1032 in my headcanon

Aight so basically
Act 1 was 15 chapters long
The interim between act 1-2 had 1 interim chapter

Act 2 was was 30 chapters long
the interim between act 2 -3 had 2 interim chapters

Act 3 at ch 1031 will have been 73 chapters long
We had a 13 chapter oden flashback

That means the total time in present will be 60 at ch 1031

That means 15 , 30, 60

[sly juniper]

yeah this is my main concern. I don't want the flow of the battle to be interrupted, so act 4 could be solely relegated to Luffy vs Kaido, and act 5 can be the post-arc content

[pure raven]

And that means act 3-4 will have 3 chapters of interim

[pure raven]

Yeah and I still don't see why act ending = rocks face reveal

Yeah you don't see it because the way you absorb one piece is not the same as me bro

[sly juniper]

is this why everyone seems to be saying next chapter's gonna be big

[pure raven]

Yeah and the word play from the japanese bro yude ron

So hmm you are saying that we are gonna get rocks face reveal because of word play?

People think yude ron isn't credible

And in a way very YES AND very NO

His wordplay is always 100
his interpretation of said word play isnlt

I mean how tf can you get word play wrong when you speak japanese

Alright then I guess we will have to wait and see if we get rocks face reveal

Yeah i guess we will bro

[mint prairie]

I've been reading this channel all day only to realise it was Denies Lobby all along.

Not gonna lie, I did it to myself.

[pure raven]

Thats like catching a kendrick line in his song
as english speakers we can easily see the word play

But the meaning we interpret it from can be different from one another

[sly juniper]

idek if I'm fully on board with this theory but I would love this. Feels like it's been so long since any major lore drops

[pure raven]

Trust me you are not alone bro

[slate mesa]

ya i feel like this fights been going on for so long lol

[sturdy hound]

why do people fail english tests when it's their native language?

[waxen dust]

hmmm 🤔
That’s actually interesting because you’re not the first who has mentioned this idea at me. This could work because 1034 should encapsulate the end of Volume 103 (10/11 chapters each). So two chapters of intermission after 1032 isnt a stretch either. @pure raven

[pure raven]

because like i said

People have different interpretations of the same shit

[sly juniper]

and sure, we've had stuff about Nika, the Lunarians, Joyboy, Voice of All Things, etc. But it's been nothing really substantial. Just a lot of teases

[pure raven]

96% knowing how to read

Doesn;t mean 96% understand

and thats why people fail english tests

[slate mesa]

wait who is Nika

[sly juniper]

the Sun God

[slate mesa]

like who is it supposed to be tho

[mint prairie]

Nika the Sun God, name dropped by Who's Who during his fight with Jinbei, along a hella lot of racism.

[sturdy hound]

the wodplay he's using is just grasping at straws, he uses chinese and english readings of numbers as well as being inconsistent with his system. he sometimes reads 10xx as 1000 + x0 + x and sometimes it's 1,0,x,x

[pure raven]

Oda said shanks will make a move
That move will be made on one of the last chapters of the year

[sly juniper]

that's the question we've all been dying to know the answer to. We don't really fully know

[mint prairie]

Nobody knows yet.

[sturdy hound]

the wordplay he does is nothing beyond a cute thing, dont put any weight into it

[slate mesa]

damn well then let’s make some theories

[pure raven]

this guy said cute

[wet perch]

I expect a lot of info and lore dumping for act 5.

[pure raven]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-weak-funnyaf-no-joked-gif-14846566

[slate mesa]

From Japanese 仁 (ni) meaning "benevolence" combined with 香 (ka) meaning "fragrance"

does that sound like anyone?

[waxen dust]

Yuderon tends to have some good points, but the number wordplay is being overestimated. I do think he does get it right when it’s right on the nose, BUT cumulatively he’s got some stretched ideas with the wordings.

[pure raven]

his interpretations are pretty garbage

But literally reading kanji is simple for a japanese person

[tardy drift]

a

[sturdy hound]

it's absurd to think that oda is building each chapter around wordplay in the ch number. what yuderon is doing is just making some vague statements that can apply to anything with some bold claims to get hype. let's see what his "genius" wordplay for next ch is

[tardy drift]

ya

[mint prairie]

Most of tonight's discussion has been castles in the sky build upon Goroawase, hard headcanons, and a total downplay of rebuttals. This was just a Denies Lobby moment that got stretched too far.

[tardy drift]

i agree

[waxen dust]

yeah I have been highly anticipating this upcoming chapter for weeks now, because this is either make or break it time for the kanji wordplay approach. 1031 is gonna be important within the community even if there isn’t any significant moment happening

[tardy drift]

but ofc Oda is planning something very big

[sturdy hound]

it has been a trend that started with ohara's dumb video, and now people wont let the gorowase go. i guarantee that 99% of them dont know that the gorowase in that video is mostly bs so freaking dumb

[pure raven]

You realise oda changes his ideas when people guess them

And he likely watches yude ron, but japanese people on the whole are very smart, but they aren't common sense smart

[mint prairie]

Yeah, most predictions miss the mark, ocassionally one does but it ends up being irrelevant in the bigger picture. He also brings out more goroawase after he gets context, but those are diminished in value as they are descriptive, not predictive.

[pure raven]

Tell me how a fucking brachiosaurus represents queen

[mint prairie]

I'm really tired of it. I wish there was a rule for it, but people really love their numbers.

[sturdy hound]

i prefer the descriptive gorowase much more, it's cute and fun. no mega brain wanna be theories

[pure raven]

Every animal of the notable beast pirates represents them pretty well except queen

[sturdy hound]

cant ban people for being gullible

[waxen dust]

because as Queen said “he would be too popular if he were skinny”

[sturdy hound]

it's obv gonna correspond to smth, "genius" can be applied to anything bc it's so vague, he just threw out the VP thing out there in case + to get more hype surrounding it

[tardy drift]

speaking of Queen the fight with Sanji is going to be amazing although i am scared for Sanji bc he might just betray the straw hats

[slate mesa]

I don’t think his heart is going to change i think it’s only his strength

[sturdy hound]

btw guys, this is getting more into the realm of casual convo. please take it to #manga or #also-manga

[tardy drift]

ok

[sly juniper]

I think some answers regarding Nika may be found on Elbaf

[tardy drift]

prob not

[slate mesa]

i think it’s just fisher tiger

[tardy drift]

yea

[sly juniper]

there's a large focus on thanking the sun in Big Mom's flashback, with a direct mention to the 'Sun God'

[tardy drift]

ok i see

makes sense tho

[pure raven]

1.Whos who is an ancient big cat
Lucci is a relatively modern big cat

The ancient got replaced by the modern in cp9 as the prodigy among them

2.King is a flying dinasour that used to rule the skys in ancient times
They are now extinct

Just like kings race used to prosper and control the red line and got brought to near extinction

3. Sasaki is the leader of the defence force unit in the beast pirates, he is the most notable durable dinasour.

4. Jacks name is the drought, he is a mammoth that sucks up water from his trunk in large amounts

Queen literally the only one this isn't existant for, because he was never originally intended to be BARNEY

[sly juniper]

I think both the sun and the moon, and by extension the dawn, holds a lot of meaning across a lot of islands, especially Skypiea

[waxen dust]

iirc Arsal & I were talking about this but one of the reasons why this is corresponding to Vegapunk is because Chapter 1031 will be released on November 6th 2021 and Vegapunk is mentioned for the first time on November 6th 2006 - Chapter 433. So it’s kind of a timing thing on Oda’s part as well, but I am as usual a skeptic about all of it

[sturdy hound]

yea arsal told me about that, i still dont believe it. and even if it happens, i will hate it bc it will give yuderon even more credit

[pure raven]

You know what it is

Oda made queens favourite food some vegan garbage, just like brachiosaurus are vegan

[tardy drift]

yea

[pure raven]

Lol i didn't even know that
That makes it even more fucking likely that we getting an act end

[tardy drift]

Oda is smart but sometimes the laws of one piece are just insane

[pure raven]

Queen was definetely supposed to be a scorpian originally

[tardy drift]

that would be better

[pure raven]

But minute people guessed he changed that shit'

[sly juniper]

goddamn, it's raelly been 15 years since we first heard about Vegapunk huh? Regardless of whether or not Vegapunk will be fully revealed in the upcoming chapters or not, that's quite the buildup for just one character. I can't think of any other character from any other series that comes close to this level of foreshadowing and speculation

[waxen dust]

iirc One Piece is getting the wsj cover and a color page this week?

[pure raven]

The laws of biology and physics don't exist

[tardy drift]

in one piece

[sly juniper]

correct

[pure raven]

If queen had a scorpian df he would be 100 times better lol

[tardy drift]

nami was originally going to be a axe fighter and i really wanted that but

[pure raven]

And guess who was the first guy to shoot queens plague rounds

THE SMILE SCORPIAN

[mint prairie]

How would an Scorpion Zoan make sense among a Mammoth a Pterodactyl?

[tardy drift]

i cant be mad

[pure raven]

It makes sense for queen

a mammoth and ptera and linked in what way exactly

[mint prairie]

Ancient Zoans.

[waxen dust]

hmmm, to me that seems like an indicator that something is about to go down this chapter, especially iirc the magazine talked about “the climax of Wano” although they said that a few times already.

I do think something is about to happen but idk if it’s pertaining Vegapunk, maybe (hopefully) it’s the end of Act 3, cause then I get finally get my credit from all the marks who said “only 3 Acts”

[pure raven]

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=ancient+scorpions&form=HDRSC2&first=1&tsc=ImageBasicHover

Who said the scorpian couldn;t be ancient

[mint prairie]

Mosquitos are as old but you don't see a Mosquito All Star. It's clear what Oda was going for.

[tardy drift]

ye

[pure raven]

Yeah but think durabilty lol

[pure raven]

Lmao what

Kaidous crew is about durable ancient zoans

If queen was an ancient scorpian his dfence would be crazy

[mint prairie]

Scorpions are not more durable than dinosaurs.

[waxen dust]

Queen with his mecha tech can build a scorpion

[pure raven]

And theres actually evidence from fossils that the scorpian was the first land creature

[mint prairie]

If anything a Pterodactyl is the weakest link.

[pure raven]

difference between defence and durability

[waxen dust]

Zeus will transform into an axe, Nami Axe is still happening

[tardy drift]

thats great

[pure raven]

And queen just happens to be the oldest memeber of kaidous crew age wise

it would make sense that his creature would be even older than the others

[tardy drift]

if it happens

[waxen dust]

Orochi should have got an ancient cockroach df since he’s so “durable” with plot

[tardy drift]

yeah that would be funny

[pure raven]

lol

Yo do you guys think shakky is silver axe

[waxen dust]

possibly

[tardy drift]

man i hate the censored parts in orochi's death

the anime sucks now but the animation is great

[waxen dust]

Shakky not having her name dropped in the pirate lore has been a indicator that she’s probably a background character with an alias like possibly “Silver Axe”

[tardy drift]

yeah that would be amazing but there is a small chance that it would happen

and Oda can just change his mind

[gritty ether]

leaks coming today or tmrw?

[tardy drift]

really

your pfp is spoilers rimuru

[drowsy marsh]

So what will happen with the bombs subplot? I first thought that Caribou would store the bombs with his fruit, but I also like the idea of the bombs exploding on Big Mom.

[spiral kettle]

In Belgium there's a kids show about Gert and his talking dog Samson. Since 1992 they are mentioning Gert's crush Marlèneke, but up to this day we never saw her... How is that for a build up 😅

[sly juniper]

nice

[stuck ore]

Buggy's true power?

[sly juniper]

hm?

[stuck ore]

Buggy has been since start we never saw his true power

[ashen plaza]

It would be dumb if Oda changed the plot just because a theory matched his plot imo

[amber karma]

Hopefully the end of raising be fukryohosju

I need that fight to end as it’s taking a long time wich is confusing unless something importantly happens during it

[strange shell]

so theory

the world government will buster call the Home islands of the Straw Hat Crew

[shut finch]

ehhhh its interesting but like what would that do

[strange shell]

put it in the paper

[shut finch]

luffy doesnt even read the news he'd have no idea

[strange shell]

"turn yourself in or we kill everyone any of you love"

Nami does and they don't know that

[modest skiff]

This feels like more of a prediction than a theory. There’s not really any indication this would happen. This would mean destroying a lot of islands, including fishman island. I don’t think this makes any sense

[strange shell]

True. Maybe just Gao Kingdom

[shut finch]

yeah i think there's a better way for them to get to the straw hats but its an interesting idea

[strange shell]

I'm just unsure of what the reason for Luffy wanting to fight them will be

[modest skiff]

I’m doing a re-read and one thing that stood out to me is the description of Roger’s execution. It is stated that many of the people who were present went on to be great pirates. I wonder how much of that was just because the type of person who wants to be there tends to end up successful. A thought I had was that perhaps when people have particularly strong conquerors haki, when they command people to do something (like go find Roger’s treasure), they truly ingrain that command in their head and inspire them in a very deep way. I think this is the case. I think Roger essentially wrote a command of adventure in the brains of people who attended his execution.

When I have pondered what would be a devastating blow to the CD power structure, one thing that sticks out is rebellion. Everyone is scared of the CDs but if everyone banded together, they could defeat the CDs. It’s a classic case of being scared to make the world better. One of my less specific One Piece theories is that the One Piece has some capability to project will/voice in a way that would allow someone to lead a rebellion against the CDs. I imagine something similar to the power Belo Betty has, but on a larger scale. Since we’ve gotten lots of hints about CoC naturally making people loyal and follow you, perhaps the one piece can amplify that and allow a global version of Belo Betty’s power. A horn, drum, some type of musical instrument would be an interesting way to tie it into Joyboy and dancing and whatnot. I wouldn’t say I am particularly confident in this theory, and it isn’t very specific, but I feel pretty good about Roger creating a generation of particularly good pirates by commanding them to find his treasure in person

[strange shell]

I think there an idea here but I don't think forced commands fits the themes of the story

[grand walrus]

why is the red line red? it can't be an arbitrary color. im guessing it got stained red with blood

[wary fossil]

because it's red earth

[mossy obsidian]

That's gotta be a lot of blood for that to be true

[grand walrus]

dory and broggy quote "only the blood stained serpent we cannot pierce" i thibk it is possible they were referring to red line

jorgumandir = world snake that wraps around the world

[wary fossil]

that's just giants waxing poetic IMO, but yes that probably does reference the red line

[mossy obsidian]

Ye but i don't think it is a literal blood stained rock lol but instead they could be referring to it.

[grand walrus]

do u think elbaf pirates hate WG or indifferent?

[severe edge]

i think many people still have confusions about what paramecia awakenings do even tho oda actually explained it in dressrosa itself with doffy saying "when you awaken, the devil leaks out" it quite literally is that so going in order with doffy and katakuri their powers "leaked" out from their body in a way where they themselves aren't anymore the epicenter of the power itself but they can still control it so just like how they turn their own body to strings or mochi they can turn and manipulate other non living things into that now in the case of kidd even his is literally the same but even tho some people think he literally turns into a magnet instead he actually creates magnetic fields and with his awakening he doesn't have to be the epicenter of this magnetic field so he didn't quite turn big mom into a magnet more like he just created a magnetic field inside her just like he does with his own body, now in the case of law he already has some more room to use his devil powers in which is inside his "room" but even in the room he himself needs to be present but in an awakened form he no longer needs to be the epicenter of the room itself and can have the occupy other things while he is outside it like how we saw with him coating his sword with a room and can inject big mom with a room

[lone forum]

are you saying that law doesnt need to create a room anymore?

[severe edge]

well as law said using awakened powers depletes stamina rather quickly so you won't seem him always using kroom so he will still use room

also he does create a room he can just put other things in the room while being outside of the room i'd guess it'd be weaker with him outside but who knows

[lone forum]

whats kroom anyways

[slate mesa]

And room has better abilities depending on what you’re trying to do, like when he wants to transport ppl or himself to a safer place

kroom is him making a room around something else, like his sword

[severe edge]

this also sort of falls in place with ryou where you circulate your haki not just in your body but also in a little area away from you thus you can see the sky splitting with roger's and wb's or luffy's and kaido's haki making contact while their physical bodies do not

[lone forum]

why make a room around his sword

[severe edge]

this also sort of falls in place with ryou where you circulate your haki not just in your body but also in a little area away from you thus you can see the sky splitting with roger's and wb's or luffy's and kaido's haki making contact while their physical bodies do not

CoC is similar to that but instead of circulating your haki you just pulse it out

the pulse is ofc lot more unstable and thus has more of an impact but not a long one just like a quick punch

[slate mesa]

He did it because he wouldn’t have been able to get inside big moms body since her skin is so tough

[lone forum]

but he could've made a room and manipulated her body right?

[severe edge]

in law's awakened form he still needs to make a room from his body but can be outside it i'd guess from what we've seen

[severe edge]

he needs to have more powerful haki than big mom to do that

[lone forum]

oda needs to explain his awakening more

also kidd's

[severe edge]

this was already specified btw not related to awakening shit

[lone forum]

yeah i remember, thanks for reminding me tho

[fresh galleon]

do you guys think oda will introduce more people who have the voice of all things?

[ripe geyser]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/qkmfua/what_it_actually_means_for_wanos_borders_to_be/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

I’m not gonna say anything, read this legendary theory if time allows it

[eternal vessel]

Theory, next manga has pages.

[pearl wagon]

Ok, so here is my theory. a future arc will be focused on franky.

1. Why franky will have his own arc

So every straw hat has at least one arc dedicated to them, all of them except franky. I know you can say water 7/Enies lobby was franky's arc, but that was more robin focused, franky only had his intro in that arc, nothing more, and to this day franky has never had his own arc.

2. Why does he need an arc

Because let's be honest, even though i love franky, he's never really had any character development. Literally the only reason, but a main character not having character development is just very weird.

3. What will his arc be?

In a flashback, roger goes to water 7 after a trip from sky island to get his ship repaired. Here, oden sees franky building something and has a conversation with him. Franky says he doesn't want to talk to pirates because some pirates abandoned him, maybe an arc about those pirates? They could be an old threat, maybe a former yonko crew and they meet that crew before reaching laugh tale.

[shut finch]

I don’t think we’ll have another Franky backstory

But I think it’s interesting for an arc to be focused on him

[wary fossil]

Nothing with franky backstory. We got all the story of Tom and the sea train. If Franky gets another feature, it's gonna be Vegapunk or Pluton/technology related

[shut finch]

Ooh good point. His development will definitely come with vegapunk. Maybe a timeskip flashback at most

[digital tapir]

Yeah I definitely think vegapunk arc is gonna give franky a chance to shine

[severe edge]

we either get a good guy vegapunk arc which I think is more likely to happen with franky getting a more clear view to the importance of weapons as a protective or liberating entity and this would be rather short development and fewer scenes or we get an evil vegapunk arc where the ideals of franky and vegapunk will clash and will be longer and possibly more development scenes or we have a get to vegapunk arc where franky's tech will clash with vegapunk's in order to get the SHs to vegapunk or get them out of a facility of vegapunk designed to trap people

good guy vegapunk arc can also end up in the death of vegapunk making franky the last guy alive to have the technical abilities to make a pluton

[shut finch]

I doubt vegapunk is a good guy

Unless he’s been manipulated or something

[proud crystal]

he did honor kumas last wish to let him guard the thousand sunny over the timeskip period
that's something at least

[worn dirge]

he hasnt outright done anything bad he just works for the marines and is a scientist. we've seen a couple good marines he could be one

[wary fossil]

why does vegapunk have to be strictly good/evil

[severe edge]

also stopped research on producing giants and use humans for experiments

[wary fossil]

why can't he just be a selfish scientist

[severe edge]

and also the smile stuff; things he has the scientific prowess to make but didn't make

[worn dirge]

he could also just be a selfish scientist lol

I feel like vegapunk will get a somewhat short arc because they still have to cover him, elbaf, and whatever the climax of the show will end up being, which will probably be an all out war much larger than marineford and will take longer to cover

[severe edge]

well he could have the mentality of just finding out if it's possible to do something or not and then just leave it when he knows he can do so but ehhhhh... would make for either a quite good character or either a really boring character that's been hyped for too long for no reason at all

[worn dirge]

oda will probably make him interesting. with all the hype and how good of a writer oda is, I can't see him being a let down

[versed hamlet]

Vegapunk isn't a shipwright and has never been alluded to being one; it's just that vegapunk and franky both share scientist traits

[worn dirge]

honestly i could see vegapunks arc being the final war cause they got the new thing that could replace the admirals. We could see him for the first and only time in the final war

[severe edge]

true i guess

[tribal wedge]

Big theory- kings mask is gonna break and hes gonna be dream all along. Thank you

[severe edge]

with vegapunk not being a good or evil guy he'd have more of the observer role in the series but we have seen him influence things directly in the op universe tho not many times and from the stopped experiments we know he has done for him to be a selfish scientist we'd have a really really niche and specific character type which isn't entirely impossible but less likely for now i'd say

[drifting gyro]

I think frankly will get development with the vegapunk arc

[pure raven]

Vegapunk gonna be looking like Albert Einstein

[waxen dust]

This is a very impressive theory,
I originally thought Wano was a mini replica of the AK because it has 6 lands like the OP world has 6 seas, but almost everything in this theory has tangibility and justifies why Wano is such an important arc especially after this arc we approach the final saga

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/qkmfua/what_it_actually_means_for_wanos_borders_to_be/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[near osprey]

Considering the fact Luffy is literally fighting the ceiling right now

How much further can they can grow from this point?

I'd imagine Shanks would be

He's younger so he has the advantage of his youth

Even if he is 30 or 40 now

[shut finch]

Yeah they call Kaido the strongest creature but I could see others being a bit stronger. Either way I think they’ve set it up to where Luffy doesn’t need to be stronger than Kaido overall to beat him here

He also might still lose or not finish the fight lol

[near osprey]

Well we are only on Act 3

[shut finch]

Right

[near osprey]

But would they stop fighting though?

Luffy or Kaido don't seem like the type to hit the brakes in this kind of situation Luffy just assumes his peeps will handle it

and I don't see him losing at this point personally

Usually when Luffy is confident this is the last time it's the last time.

[shut finch]

For sure I think the stop fighting situation would have to mean Onigashima is exploding/really crumbling or like he finds out Robin is captured somehow. I think that’s the least likely possibility but it’s still a possibility

[near osprey]

Well CP9 is on the move.

CP0*

[shut finch]

I have no idea what’s gonna happen with anything right now haha

[near osprey]

I imagine CP0 will fail maybe a possible capture scenario?

I could see them getting captured

[shut finch]

Yeah I think CP0 is gonna do something important, even if they somehow can’t capture Robin

Don’t ask me what that would be 😂

[near osprey]

Does Luffy's Fruit make Blackbeard's redundant?

Like I'm pretty sure Luffy would have no problem fighting without his Rubber Powers

[sand sail]

That's certainly not how it was in Impel Down. Luffy's fruit is a massive necessity to his fighting, taking that away takes away a lot from him

[near osprey]

Hmm yeah but he's at least trained in Advanced Applications of Haki

Wish Oda could give us more on how strong BB really is.

[sturdy hound]

Still, those techniques pack the real punch with his gears, knocking him out of gear is not optimal. Would be an interesting match up since bb feels amplified pain

[near osprey]

Exactly

Luffy catches him with an elephant gatling with applied armament and ryuo

[blazing rapids]

Theres a theory that Luffys tattoo 3D2Y is that Kid is a Secret D member and it stands for 2 D members take down 2 Yonkos but im adding my own theory, since 3D is crossed out does a D member die? Honestly its not great but lol

[near osprey]

Means Not 3 Days But 2 Years

[sand sail]

No, it was just telling his crew to meet at Sabaody in 2 years instead of 3 days

[blazing rapids]

I meant forshadow not stand

[blazing rapids]

yeah now i think about it, it doesnt make much sense lol (original)

[shut finch]

Yeah the argument would be that it’s a double meaning, but Luffy wouldn’t be intending to show that one. But I’m not in on that theory

[near osprey]

Kidd most likely is a D though

[visual merlin]

yea thats just 3 days

[blazing rapids]

wait how does one get the will of d? is that answered by oda or no?

[visual merlin]

its just passed down in family

[near osprey]

No they're just given the name through their family

[blazing rapids]

oh ok

[visual merlin]

kid doesn't have it though

oda may be going for luffy having coc and will of D

[near osprey]

Not yet

[visual merlin]

whereas Kid has coc, and law has will of d

its not a not yet thing lol

its not like he's gonna unlock will of D

[near osprey]

We didn't find out Law was a D until Dressrosa

[visual merlin]

indeed

[near osprey]

Odds are Kidds full name is Eustass D Kidd

[visual merlin]

not really, even if thats a possibility, it's not likely

[near osprey]

Oh you know Kidds family heritage already?

[visual merlin]

the only reason its possible is because we haven't been told explicitly that he doesn't have a D, but there's no evidence that he's got it at all

[visual merlin]

No, I don't need to know it to say its unlikely

until any evidence for it is given, he's unlikely to have will of D, like every other character

[blazing rapids]

oh so like laws parents had it? like garp and dragon?

[visual merlin]

yes

[blazing rapids]

oh ok

[shut finch]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Momo dies honestly

[near osprey]

Well considering what we've seen of Kidd already he has it written all over him.

[shut finch]

Don’t think he will as of now butttt it could make sense

[near osprey]

People with D tend to have certain personality attributes

[sand sail]

He really doesn't, though

The D's don't have personality traits, they're at the eye of events

They're the ones who go around screwing things up in the world, and bringing the proverbial storm around

[near osprey]

Exactly

[sand sail]

Law, for example, is nothing like any of the other D's we've met except that he wants stuff to happen

[near osprey]

Kidd has done the same shit

[sand sail]

And having said that, there are more pirates without the D. that do this than there are with

It's more likely Kid doesn't have it, given that fact

[near osprey]

I just would not be surprised if we find out what that he's also a D I get the vibes from him.

[strange lark]

nah. for what reason? it's not going to be his plotline anyway it's taken already, twice

[visual merlin]

There's no vibes or character traits

Big mom and kaido mess stuff up a lot

WB did, Shanks does, sengoku's a big guy in the world, etc

there's no real way to determine who is a D

[near osprey]

I don't think it really matters I'm just saying I think odds are we'll find out he has D. in his name later on maybe during Wano maybe next arc

[visual merlin]

all kid has going for him is he's a cool strong guy who hasn't been explicitly stated to not have a D

it does matter because you're arguing its likely he's a D

so the reasons for whether or not this is likely is relevant

[near osprey]

Yeah because I just get that feeling from his character

[sand sail]

It kinda doesn't make sense for us not to know tho, too

[wary fossil]

oda conceived kidd before law didn't he

[visual merlin]

that's not the greatest evidence ever

[sand sail]

Law had an actual in series, plot based reason for not revealing he was a D.

[visual merlin]

do you not get that same feeling from Kaido?

[sand sail]

Kid is under no such constraint, he wants everyone to know exactly who he is and what he does

[near osprey]

Like I said we didn't find out Law was a D until later on it's not really too far off for that detail of Kidd to be found out later on.

[sand sail]

He's so outspoken his whole thing was killing anyone who tried to laugh at him

[visual merlin]

Law not being revealed til later doesn't make it likely kid has a d in his name

[sand sail]

And like I said, we had a reason for it specific to the plot

[visual merlin]

^ that as well

[strange lark]

if oda reveals he's the d he would need to develop that, he aren't doing that just because

[visual merlin]

Kid's no more likely to be a D than any other somewhat relevant character

[sand sail]

Not impossible, but yeh, it's maybe a 50/50

[visual merlin]

and for him, its arguably even less likely because we have his first and last name

[sand sail]

Little bit less since we have his full name and it's not in there tbh

[strange lark]

and I don't see him caring enough to write about kid that

[visual merlin]

We don't have full names for shanks or kaido or sengoku

[wary fossil]

we'll never get kaido's full name. he's like cher

[sand sail]

His name is Shanks D. Xebec of course. But nah, I don't think we'll get the D. reveal for Kid. Not that it's entirely out of the question, just I dunno about likely in this case

[wary fossil]

Jaguar D Kaido would be silly

[visual merlin]

if he's a D lets give Law CoC

law should have it anyway

[modest skiff]

He may be ashamed or resentful of it

[shut finch]

Buggy D Kaido

[visual merlin]

Would be a stretch, especially because of how his character is

[strange lark]

i have no idea why ppl compare being a d to having a CoC, it's so lame.

[visual merlin]

Fairly certain he'd embrace being a D

[blazing rapids]

Down D Stairs

[sand sail]

Yeh, this is definitely a possibility. He could have some defiant, inside reason for it, like he knows the history and disapproved for whatever reason

[near osprey]

How many people with D developed CoC?

[sand sail]

I think he'd be fine with it too, he just kinda has that fuckitall mentality, but it's definitely possible

[near osprey]

Might just be a common trait with the D Clan

[strange lark]

Not that. I mean specifically between Law, Luffy and Kid

[near osprey]

We know Luffy has it, we assume Garp does as well and Dragon wouldn't seem too far off either. Ace might have and Roger did.

We can also assume Blackbeard has it as well same with Xebec

[strange lark]

Like they see some kind of balance in that lol

Which is ... weird

[near osprey]

I'm saying Ace would have probably developed it if he didn't get killed

[visual merlin]

yes ace and dragon have it

[strange lark]

Ace had it

[near osprey]

Okay so yeah D = CoC

[visual merlin]

no lol

[blazing rapids]

No not all D's have it

[near osprey]

As long as you're able to properly develop it

[visual merlin]

Rouge, Law, Law's family

[blazing rapids]

i assume rouge didnt

[near osprey]

Obviously someone like Rouge isn't and Law is still left open

[visual merlin]

so D doesn't = CoC

[blazing rapids]

Is that all the D's?

[near osprey]

Okay but we all know CoC is something you obtain in an awakening moment or through training so obviously Rouge who is a non-combatant isn't going to obtain it.

[visual merlin]

just that people with the D sometimes get up in the world, and many of the people up in the world have CoC

[visual merlin]

its not a combatant thing, it's just having the qualities for it

[near osprey]

I'm looking at the list of D.s and majority of them have CoC

[sand sail]

That's not really how it works

Doflamingo was also not a combatant when he awakened it

Ace was a fighter, but just a child

[blazing rapids]

this guys a d? whaaatttt

[visual merlin]

those characters are also top people in the world

[near osprey]

Doflamingo had his awakening

[sand sail]

It's not about whether you want to fight, it's about your general personality

[visual merlin]

yes, before he was ever any sort of strong

its just a character traits thing

[near osprey]

Dofla was in an highly intense situation at the time his CoC awakened as was Luffy

[sand sail]

No, he wasn't lol

[near osprey]

?????

[sand sail]

Luffy's conqueror's activated against Motobaro

[visual merlin]

and yet he wasn't any sort of strong. He was in a stressful situation where it awakening, but it had nothing to do with combat

[sand sail]

Doflamingo was in a stressful situation, but he wasn't a fighter by any means

In fact he was the exact opposite, he was a spoiled prince with no power whatsoever

Luffy's activated in a completely comedic scenario that he was losing his mind in amusement over lol

It's not a stress thing, it's a temperament thing

[strange lark]

I still think having a D is connected to your lineage somehow. BM--Katakuri, Kaido--Yamato

[near osprey]

Okay but considering majority of the D's that we know of have CoC it's clearly a trait that is common amongst that Clan.

[sand sail]

None of those folks are D's tho

[strange lark]

That wasn't my point

[sand sail]

Incorrect. The majority of D's we've seen have been family, and most of them don't have conqueror's

[strange lark]

just an observation

[visual merlin]

thats entirely what it is

[sand sail]

Oop I mixed up my numbers, about half the D's have conqueror's, and most of them are related. We've got way more people with conqueror's who aren't D's than with, so it doesn't actually seem to be something that runs through the line, whatever it is

[visual merlin]

D is passed down in family

[sand sail]

You are correct in your theory there, it's just those aren't the ones to name for it lol. But yeh, we have Garp for example going to Dragon, then to Luffy

[strange lark]

lol i meant CoC sorry. not the D

[sand sail]

Ooooh, there is some credibility to it, but that doesn't seem terribly concrete either unfortunately

I imagine it's a chance of lineage, given what we've seen

[near osprey]

Odds are D was a powerful family during the Void Century and the surviving members hid by changing their last and middle and putting D in the middle instead

We won't really know until we reach LaughTale assuming Oda waits that long for the mystery to finally be revealed.

But I'm going to assume Robin will be the first to learn its meaning and share that

[visual merlin]

Considering they're still known as the D that wouldn't be a great way to hide

[near osprey]

Well considering how many people are known to have it they were able to remain hidden for some time.

[modest skiff]

I think its more likely it was a clan than a single family

[visual merlin]

they could've been a powerful family and all, but moving the D to the middle name isn't helping a whole bunch

[visual merlin]

that just means the theory is wrong to an extent lol. Because they aren't getting killed off once people hear they are D. It's not some hidden fact besides Law, and when he tried hiding it, he just stopped mentioning it

[modest skiff]

The D is so public and known, the whole thing makes very little sense. All of my theories about "D" have clear counter evidence. If it was some kinda enemy of the WG people wouldn't be running around, blatantly Ds

[near osprey]

Yeah but even they're unaware of the history of D as well yet it's still a name passed on

[visual merlin]

They could've definitely been some powerful family

[visual merlin]

that isn't supporting the idea that they moved it from last name to middle to hide it

considering everyone still knows they are D, that would be a horrible way of hiding it

so it probably just isn't the case

[strange lark]

Do you think Doffy's parents had CoC

[modest skiff]

tbh I think we simply don't have enough info. Nothing really makes sense at this point

[visual merlin]

again the other part about them being a powerful family makes sense though

[modest skiff]

D is just a big question mark right now

[sand sail]

^ This is true

[visual merlin]

definitely didn't

[sand sail]

However, having said that, the marines and government actually have some semblance of knowledge about the Will of it

[near osprey]

They covered up Rogers D

[sand sail]

To the point of hiding Roger's name because of it, and referencing Luffy having it, along with the Gorosei talking about it iirc

[near osprey]

They don't want the world to be aware of its significance

[visual merlin]

Other people covered it up, he didn't try hiding he was a D by moving it from his last name to his middle name

[near osprey]

As it relates to the void century

[sand sail]

Other people don't actually know its significance, they just don't want anyone seemingly making it significant

[visual merlin]

also, wasn't it more of an accident anyway? Like people know luffy is a D, and no one's trying to hide it

[modest skiff]

I think its possible the will of the D ended up being very similar to Toki's prophecy.

"Yes, technically, the D clan are supposed to be the ones who bring a new dawn and they are the dawn clan or whatever. But its been like 800 years, so apparently not, so let's move on"

Same kinda deal in Wano with them assuming Kozuki folks are all dead. Sure, Toki said "see ya in 20 years, but meh"

[sand sail]

Yeh, they don't hide the D

Roger was the exception because of Laugh Tale

[modest skiff]

So it might be that they don't really care about it anymore, since tons of Ds have come and gone since the last 800 years. So maybe they decided it isn't worth worrying about

But again, I feel like this is all just grasping. I would say the only ACTUAL data point we have is that the WG tried to hide Roger being a D

[sand sail]

You seem spot on about the former tho, they really take no pains at all to hide anyone else's name

Roger's was specifically spotted as hidden and changed, would make sense that it's because of him almost fulfilling what the Will of D. should come out to

[near osprey]

Meaning could just be Destiny

Those given the D name are born to a certain fate or destiny

[modest skiff]

There's like 12 words it could be, so I don't try to figure it out based on anything

Destiny, Dauntless, Dawn, etc etc

[near osprey]

Suppose whatever rings best with the names

[modest skiff]

Yeah, but I would have thought if this were the case, they'd clamp down ultra hard on all Ds after that. So that's why I don't think that's the case. If Roger suddenly scared them by almost pulling off the will of the D, only to find he was too early, you'd think the WG would be like "Ok so lets kill ALL Ds now lol"

[sand sail]

I'm guessing it'll be something Dawn related, with Wano and all maybe. Would be cool if they tie it all together that way, really puts the Kozukis in the middle of the D.'s

[sand sail]

Well, this is reasonable, but that would also be a huge red flag everywhere too. Would potentially draw people to the mystery more, but it also gets much more difficult when considering the Great Age and all that too

[modest skiff]

In my eyes, the same kind of people being sneaky trying to find Pluton's blueprints could also be finding and killing Ds. It is so entirely within the capability of the WG to do that quietly that I just don't think they have an inherent reason to fear the Ds. Or if they do, they don't know about it. It might be that the WG has absolutely no idea what the will of the D is. Maybe the history is lost to them as well. Hard to really say. And so that's why I always end up shrugging and thinking "Whatever, Oda will tell me when he's ready"

If the WG should fear the Ds, or used to think they should, I think they are suffering from luxury-induced-complacency after 800 years of nothing happening

[versed flax]

yall think we seeing luffy devil fruit awakening when wano ends or nah

[wild veldt]

Nah, we can leave Luffy awakening for Shanks or BB.

Luffy got like 3 types of advanced haki this arc

He doesn't need to add awakening just to one up the other 2

[versed flax]

fr advanced conqueors and armament

[modest skiff]

I think Luffy awakening will be a crucial part of countering BB's fruit, by making stuff rubber, it just stretches and doesn't actually enter the black hole

[versed flax]

i def feel like we are gonna see him awaken with BB

it would make more sense and we could see BB awakening in that fight

[waxen dust]

Luffy awakening

Luffy getting his awakening could happen this arc given Law & Kid are able to use it and we got Gomu Gomu “lore” earlier this year. I can see it happening but only as a spark and not fully utilized yet

[shut finch]

I’ll say Luffy awakening is for a future arc. I like him having the haki advantage while law and Kidd have awakened dfs at the moment

[tired osprey]

Awakening def happening soon, save gear 5 for those dudes

[wild veldt]

No, gear 5 is never

[bitter kraken]

Agreed enough with the gears

[ashen plaza]

Oda : Actually ,Luffy learned/unlocked his awakening when he was training with Rayleigh

[bitter kraken]

I think if he already had it he woulda used it against doffy if not certainly against Kata

[shut finch]

Luffy just learned about awakenings in dressrosa so I wonder at what point he’ll get his

[shadow ruin]

What will come after wano, any theories?

[wild veldt]

Elbaf will be next

[weary cliff]

Maybe an interlude with the revolutionary army

[heavy nexus]

yo y'all ever notice

Shanks ship has the sun on it

[oak plover]

Buggy was born in the Muggy Kingdom, and became a clown because he hated the societal pressure to be as glum as Gloom Island's name suggested. His Muggy Ball is named after the kingdom to reference it's destruction via Buster Call.

Alternatively, he became a clown because he has a big red nose and COULDN'T be gloomy, so he decided to instead be FLASHY

Conversely, as Muggy Kingdom only stopped being at war 9 years ago (7 years pre-timeskip), none of the above.

[grand walrus]

appreciate this

[oak plover]

I try

[proper valley]

[reef berry]

at the final war akainu will try to stop luffy but buggy will stop him

letting luffy fight blackbeard

buggy will be the next whitebeard

[tired osprey]

Did you say that for gear 3 and 4 too?

[pastel summit]

gear 3 was basically told to exist 1 chapter after we learned g2 existed lol. and g4 was a natural assumption after 2 yr timeskip I'd say.

[bitter kraken]

Why would gear 5 even look like tho, I try to think about it and I feel we’ve seen all luffy can do physically to his body lol like idk would gear 5 turn him into a piece of gum or wtf

[fast trench]

I think when Luffy awakens his DF we will get a mirror of this scene with Kaido, except it wont hurt Luffy this time because the Kanabo will be made of rubber

[signal raft]

i think vegapunk will be mentioned in 1031 its a big reveal so it wont be there in 1031 spoliers

[past tulip]

https://old.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/hbvicq/gear_5th/

[hardy hawk]

[stiff pagoda]

I can't believe that didn't leave a hole in that hat

[near osprey]

So when is the Thousand Sunny going to get a Ship Spirit like the Merry

[shut finch]

End of series maybe

[near osprey]

Jinbei be out here hacking the Sunny tbh

[wild veldt]

No, considering g3 was teased immediately after g2 like before Blueno even fell. And g4 was certainly something that was gonna be made up over the timeskip

[near osprey]

G5 might end up killing Luffy I personally don't see it happening

[wild veldt]

G4 is also a very adaptive form

Going for whatever he needs for the fight

No way is there gonna be a g5 that is somehow better than a form that is extreamly adaptive and has a time limit and severe drawback. What sort of even more severe draeback could g5 even have besides death which we know can't happen.

[near osprey]

Unless he names his awakened form Gear 5th

[pine nymph]

prolly at end of one piece

[pine nymph]

hahaha

[near osprey]

End of series seems a bit too late for that

Merry had one by Skypiea and she ended up saving them a couple of times.

[wild veldt]

Awakening isn't going to need a whole new gear form

It should be able to be used in any form he already has

[near osprey]

Yeah but Luffy names everything if he opts to swap into awakened form he might just go GEAR 5TH

[wild veldt]

No other awakened user has to swap into any mode

[next swan]

That’s what I’m confused about with awakening

Isn’t it supposed to be something very casual like doffy and katakuri, but law and Kidd were having trouble getting it off

[wild veldt]

Luffy coyld use it in base or g3 oe any

[pine nymph]

nah

[near osprey]

Yeah but since Awakened Forms clearly sap the energy of the user and Gear 4th already saps a ton of energy from Luffy as is it's probably not viable to be using the Awakened Form on top of a Gear like 4th

[wild veldt]

That's cause they are probably forcing themselves to use it

[pine nymph]

maybe yes because remember roger could talk to all things, so luffy also might be able to

[next swan]

So they’re like very new to it? Not really accustomed?

[near osprey]

They've probably tested it out but noticed it uses up way too much energy

[next swan]

When somebody first gets a devil fruit it’s not hard for them to use it though

Maybe we just need better explanations of awakenings in the future

[near osprey]

Unless it's only Law that is uses a ton of energy on as his power naturally saps his strength after extended usage

[pine nymph]

maybe yes because remember roger could talk to all things, so luffy also might be able to

[near osprey]

Did Kidd say anything about it using a ton of energy for him or was that just Law?

[pine nymph]

is laws devil fruit awakening supposed to make him strong or also has other purposes ?

[next swan]

I think it was both of them

[pine nymph]

kid said too

[near osprey]

He's able to attack the inside of someone as well??? I think is how his awakened fruit works??

[wild veldt]

They both did. It makes sense for Law

[pine nymph]

it makes sense for kid as well, because it prolly takes energy becoming a magnet

[wild veldt]

For kid, I want to say he's fprceing it

So there's an energy drawback

[near osprey]

If Big Mom gets a 2nd wind I don't see how they can pull off beating her if it already saps a ton of energy

[next swan]

But yeah earlier I don’t think awakening should be inherently a new gear form, but I could see luffy using awakening in a really wacky and specific way, combining it with haki to create a new gear form. Does that make sense?

[near osprey]

Yeah

[next swan]

Like he’d use normal awakening, but then have some really specific application of it that forms a new gear form

[near osprey]

I think it'd just be a way to inform us that he's using Awakened Abilities

[next swan]

Not sure what you mean by that

[pine nymph]

i think they wont be able to beat big mom but they will be able to defeat kaido and luffy's bouny will be almost be 4 billion and as u see pero is coming on the island as well so i think big mom will flee as the marine is coming as well

[near osprey]

Gears are already killing him anyways

[near osprey]

I'm certain they'll beat her I don't see anyone on Kaido's side left standing once Onigashima concludes

[pine nymph]

there are not cause he trained that 2 years so the killing stop

[near osprey]

Really at this point all we have left is Zoro vs King, Sanji vs Queen, Kidd/Law vs Big Mom and Luffy vs Kaido

[pine nymph]

i dont think they will beat her

[pine nymph]

yes, until the marine comes

[near osprey]

If they don't beat her Big Mom could greatly turn the tides

[gray creek]

The idea that they were killing him was a misconception in the first place

[pine nymph]

how can she?

[near osprey]

Marines aren't coming the only unit there is CP-0

[pine nymph]

yeah thats what i mean

[near osprey]

Wdym how can she, she's a Yonko who's on the same level as Kaido??

[pine nymph]

yes

she could do that not coming here as well

oh wait she came her because she wanted to kill luffy ur right

[near osprey]

Nah they are killing him, Rayleigh already made note of that during a flashback we got going back to Luffy's training they're taking a massive toll on his body

That's why he told him to look for alternatives rather than relying purely on his Gears

[pine nymph]

he did?

[near osprey]

Yeah I think it was right before he used Gear 4th in Dressrosa

[pine nymph]

i thought he overcomed that

[near osprey]

Well if something you use takes a toll on your body you can't exactly overcome it

[pine nymph]

ahhh found it
So to finally answer your question, the second gear still negatively affects luffy and chips away at his lifespan, but when compared to the time he first developed the technique, the effects are not that great.

[near osprey]

and I can't imagine Gear 4th is any easier on his body.

[pine nymph]

i dont think gear 4th is killing him

[pine nymph]

its not killing him because he inflates himself and then coats himself with haki

and this makes him extremely tired

dont go away on me

[near osprey]

I'll cry if the series ends with Luffy dying after achieving his dream tbh

[pine nymph]

i think everyone will, honesly

[near osprey]

He's already shortened his life span multiple times Pre-Timeskip

[pine nymph]

and some in movies if that counts

[near osprey]

Nah Movies don't count as they're not considered canon

[pine nymph]

ahhh ic

[near osprey]

But the fact he's 19 and moving this quickly to becoming PK is always an indicator our hero will die by the end

[pine nymph]

what do u think is the best one piece movie?

[near osprey]

Uhh I really enjoy Stampede and Z a lot

[pine nymph]

i dont think he will be 19 and become the king

i think he will become the king around shanks age

i have a feeling that there will be a timeskip after wano as cp9 is on the way

[near osprey]

Nahh he's going to be 19 when it happens unless we get some massive timeskip

and I don't see another TS happening until the end

[pine nymph]

i hope he gets a massive timeskip honestly

[pine nymph]

i mean all the charecters will be tired as f and ppl will come to rescue the

[near osprey]

Shonen typically don't give us three timeskips before ending we only get the 3rd when everything is concluded and the Mangaka updates us on everyones future before saying adios

[pine nymph]

am i allowed to sweae?

[pine nymph]

that will be a bad ending, cause he is too young to be a king

[near osprey]

Not really

[glossy owl]

My theory on kuina: She ate sword sword fruit and is actually the sword zoro puts in his mouth 😳

[pine nymph]

bro no

[glossy owl]

Bro yes

[near osprey]

He would've known it was Kuina as we've already seen instances where Zoro can hear objects like rocks and so on

[pine nymph]

i mean there will be some ppl who will like that ending but he is just too young to be a king

[glossy owl]

Shes being a good prop

[pine nymph]

he is too young

[near osprey]

He's not too young though there isn't really an age requirement on PK

[pine nymph]

he needs more to beat the level of whitbeard

[near osprey]

He's about to beat Kaido which is on the level of WB

[pine nymph]

hmmmm

[near osprey]

Not too mention Blackbeard is making his move for LaughTale along with the WG making their move for total domination

[pine nymph]

he is the strongest creature alive

[pine nymph]

oh shit yes thats happening

[near osprey]

Also a ton of prophecies are coming true in the current year

[pine nymph]

but the most exciting bit of this is their bounties after wano

[near osprey]

Fishman Island will set sail on Noah soon, Wano is about to be opened

[pine nymph]

there will be a big war, oda confirmed that i think

[near osprey]

Shiki is about to make his move as well, lot of shit Oda has been setting up since the beginning is starting to spill out of the glass

[pine nymph]

yeahhhh

[near osprey]

JoyBoy which is Luffy is making his journey

[pine nymph]

do u think shanks is a royal, i forgot what they are called

[near osprey]

No probably a son of Xebec

Least that's the most common theory for Shanks Lineage

[pine nymph]

ahhhhhhh makes so much sense now

[near osprey]

He's 39 and God Valley happened 38 years ago in OPs timeline

Considering Blackbeard is 40 he could be his older brother if you ask me.

Roger took Shanks and Whitebeard took Blackbeard

[pine nymph]

i am so excited

[pine nymph]

ooooooooooooooooooo

[near osprey]

Plus Blackbeard's ship name is the Saber of Xebec and he runs Fullalead which was the Island the Rocks ran when they were still a crew.

[pine nymph]

holy shit that is some brilliant thinking

[near osprey]

and with that in mind if Blackbeard inherited Xebec's will his goal is world domination

[pine nymph]

im mind blowing how many mystries this show hols

[near osprey]

24 years worth I believe

[pine nymph]

ooooo

[near osprey]

OP definitely has Tolkien level world building

[pine nymph]

was marshal d teach a worst gen?

[near osprey]

Yeah

[pine nymph]

ooooo

[near osprey]

He became active around the same time Luffy and the rest of them did.

So he's considered part of the Worst Generation

[pine nymph]

man im so excited for future reveals

[near osprey]

Luffy befriended one of the three great weapons wouldn't be surprised if Pluton at least ends up in the hands of Blackbeard and maybe Uranus in the hands of the WG

as Shirahoshi is Poseidon

Waiting to be called a prophet when the Blackbeard Alliance with Kaido and Big Mom is revealed Post Wano 😎

[pine nymph]

nice ok now ill be taking my leave as i need to study, bye

is the one piece on laugh tale or the location is on laugh tale?

[modest skiff]

We don't know but it appears likely to be on laugh tale in some way

[pine nymph]

hmmmm ic ic

[ripe geyser]

Any of you guys know about the Wano open borders theory that got posted on the sub?

[modest skiff]

Yeah but its like 30 pages long so I haven't gotten to it yet

[ripe geyser]

Skypiea is a skull face with a gold city on the right eye and no left eye, and we’ve seen many winged people there

Having white wings on the back can be associated with angels there’s no denying it

With this nonexistent left eye versus this golden, divine right eye there should be people that are contrary to the angel-like people right?

Well, there are. And we’ve seen plenty of them.

But we saw NONE OF THEM in Skypiea

Can someone here do me a favor and explain why Oda drew this specific figure on the Skypiea map?

[modest skiff]

It appears to be a race similar to Oars

[ripe geyser]

Remember being introduced to continent pullers in thriller bark?

[modest skiff]

Yeah, you think that is them?

[ripe geyser]

They do have the horns, same with the onis on Onigashima

Yeah I think u know what I’m about to say

Read the theory, it’ll give far more details than I ever could

Even though Ohara can show us things like wordplay patterns his “best theory” isn’t nearly as convincing as the Wano open borders one on the subreddit

[proud tree]

fishmen island will get destroyed by luffy

[near osprey]

Doesn't change the fact they'll be on Noah

Odds are the only reason Luffy destroys Fishman Island is because he's asked too by Neptune.

As they'll be living on the surface eventually.

[proud tree]

yeah fishmen island is a prison for fishmen

[near osprey]

@ripe geyser I kind of play with the idea that at some points the Islands will come together to form continents with the Red Line also crumbling creating the All Blue

If they are called Continent Pullers they could play some role.

[ripe geyser]

Y’all should read the Wano open borders theory on the subreddit

It’s the best one piece theory I’ve ever seen

[proud tree]

is it old?

[ripe geyser]

No

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/qkmfua/what_it_actually_means_for_wanos_borders_to_be/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

If you’re ready for a BIG read click on it otherwise just save it and read it later

[near osprey]

If Zoro and Sanji are Luffy's wings would Yamato be his sword?

[proud tree]

i read it now 🤓 😎

[near osprey]

and Jinbei his shield?

[ripe geyser]

No she won’t be a crew member

[modest skiff]

Let’s have questions like this go to the manga channels rather than theories. This channel isn’t intended for idle conversation like that

[near osprey]

Yes she will

[ripe geyser]

I wish Yamao had more personality but her drip is easily on SH level

[near osprey]

First thing she told Luffy when she eventually revealed her face is that she wants to be free like Oden and sail with Luffy, further reason why she'd join is she wanted to go with Ace but couldn't because of the cuffs, Luffy removed those freeing Yamato from the Prison that is Kaido. Plus she's a powerful ally and there's no doubt in my mind Luffy would tell her to get on the ship before they leave Wano if he doesn't say anything she'd get on anyways much like Oden did with Whitebeard.

She's not staying in Wano she's going to join the SH Crew for the remainder of the series as a member.

People can argue that Jinbei already joined during Wano but he joined at Whole Cake but covered Luffy's escape

[ripe geyser]

Ok

[modest skiff]

"Will Yamato join?" is a conversation for the manga channels

[ripe geyser]

Gonna learn about how she had to brew tons of alcohol for Kaido and as a result became a skilled brewer and then she becomes the brewer of the thousand Sunny who busts out the booze for everybody

Case closed

[proud tree]

oars

[ripe geyser]

When we gonna meet Oars’s brother Boat

[proud tree]

what continents did he pull ... and can he swim?

[near osprey]

He moved an island slightly to the left.

So with the Shicibukai being shut down and Buggy running once again will he finally reunite with Shanks

I think Shanks and Buggy will be present on LaughTale with the Straw Hats so I imagine there'll be a point where they're together again

[visual furnace]

Oda defo gonna pull shit like this

[near osprey]

Reason for my belief Shanks and Buggy will be present is because of Buggy coincidentally getting sick right before the Roger Pirates we're about to disembark and Shanks staying behind to tend to him meaning it probably wasn't time for them to make it to the Island yet.

I wouldn't be mad if Buggy was called a Yonko

Buggy is that guy who bullshits his way up the ladder

Everyone will be cheering his name for being a Yonko and he's freaking out subconsciously because now he's an even bigger target but he just roles with it anyways.

[ripe geyser]

He’s the luckiest man

Buggy has higher luck than nearly anyone

[near osprey]

Not more than Luffy though

[ripe geyser]

I used the word nearly for a reason

[near osprey]

Luffy is way too fucking lucky

[ripe geyser]

He’s always wearing a set of armor

It’s much more durable than armament haki

[near osprey]

I forget about plot armor in OP

[sturdy timber]

But idk whatever luffy has accomplished is by strength n stuff he fought his way to the top unlike buggybda goat

[near osprey]

Luffy just forces his way through everything

[sturdy timber]

He became a warlord

[near osprey]

and then people he befriends cover his ass

[sturdy timber]

I was on the floor on that ep

[near osprey]

Don't even get me started on Usopp, Usopp is also just incredibly lucky as well.

[sturdy timber]

Frfr

[ripe geyser]

I love Buggy so much tho

[near osprey]

The fact the only reason Usopp made it to the roof top scene in Enies was because he made friends with the Giants was just 10/10

[ripe geyser]

I wonder what that “John’s treasure” is that Buggy is trying so hard to get

[near osprey]

He lost the map didn't he?

[ripe geyser]

Luffy found a clue to it in thriller bark and gave it to Buggy in Impel Down

And then we learn that there was a John on the Rocks Pirates

[sturdy timber]

Shanks duped him lmao

[sturdy timber]

Ye. God this slowmode kills me

[ripe geyser]

The amount of mysteries in this series I swear

[sturdy timber]

[near osprey]

Oda be like "Mystery crumb here, and here and here oh and right over here did I miss a spot??? Oh let's throw this in too keep the fans guessing"

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Peak fiction

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Characters mention D and ask "What does it mean?"
Guy who knows "Do you really wanna know?"
"Nah i'll make the fans find out 15 years later instead"

[ripe geyser]

Thanks Luffy

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Everyone reading weekly "HOLY SHIT WE'RE ABOUT TO FIND OUT WHAT D MEANS FINALLY

Next Chapter drops "Haha jk"

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We have slow mode on this channel because it is intended for people to formulate ideas rather than just spamming idle chit chat.

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[ripe geyser]

Degens: peak fiction
Shippers: peak fiction
Powerscalers: peak fiction
Story lovers: peak fiction
Anime lovers: peak fiction

Oda has made a series people of all kinds can enjoy

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OP is actually like peak fiction I doubt we'll get another piece of fiction like it for awhile

Only other series with this much care for detail is like LoTR or GoTs

Oda is chilling up at the top with Tolkien and GRRM

There's a good reason why it's the most popular ongoing series in the world it has no comparison

Find humor in the fact the only reason it's been going on for so long is because he decided to add Shicibukai to the mix.

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I feel like this series has spiked in popularity as of late 2019 and on

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Wano has been an incredible arc so there's no surprise.

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Discussion on popularity etc should be in the other channels #also-manga #manga

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Ok

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nice theory! another Skypia Wano connection: pyrobloin, molecules contained in seastone make sky islands possible

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Does the theory talk about the volcano blowing up during this arc? I remain pretty convinced it will erupt again and it is a big reason Wano needs to open

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The whole “eye for an eye” thing is amazing

Skypiea getting gold from AK which gives it its right eye and they give left eye to AK via continent pullers

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This is cool: Shandora City of Gold -> Wano: Once called country of gold

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The reason why this is the best theory I’ve ever seen is because of the amount of chapter evidence used

People that use real evidence to back their claims are automatic favorites in my books

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no but it talks about the city of Gold ... there where Poneglyphs written there too ... and the Kozukis are stone masons

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Kozuki's were the ones who designed the Poneglyphs weren't they?

Why Roger was able to leave an I was here message behind on Skypeia

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Who do we think took the poneglyph from FMI?

When Roger was finding the RPs he found one at FMI and another at BMs base

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FMI?

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Fishman Island

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Ohhh wasn't that BM?

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Couldn’t have been

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Could've been WB then?

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Cause Roger found an RP at FMI AND one at BM base

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Who knows really, I mean it was WBs territory for some time then became BM and in between that the RP was stolen

I imagine it could also be on God Valley or in the hands of Shanks now

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I can’t wait to have short arcs again

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Not very many pirates who know what the RP are or that are capable of stealing them.

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lmao wano willnever end at this rate

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I imagine Part 4 and 5 of Wano won't be that long

Maybe 10 chapters each

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Post-Wano is gonna be a series of short and mid sized arcs like Zou and Thriller Bark I think

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We'll have Post Onigashima as Part 4 then Part 5 will probably be Momo taking the seat of the Shogun and then we'll get massive information dumps.

Then we'll set sail for Elbaf or God Valley

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What about the Marines

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Part 4 most likely WG vs Wano or something like that

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Marines are busy with the Shicibukai and I don't see CP-0 doing anything too major

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Part 5 will be partying and Momo being a man now

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Also the fact to consider we've gotten outside world updates during each Part so Part 3 will most likely be huge

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Would be silly to have CP-0 there only to be like “oh well they’re more useless than CP-9 so 🤷🏽‍♂️”

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Part 1 was Moria being alive and him raiding Blackbeard's Island Part 2 was Post Reverie and the absolving of the Shicibukai and Blackbeard reveling in the fact that Big Mom was rushing to Wano while Kid, Law and Luffy we're also there.

and him deciding to set sail

So more Blackbeard after Onigashima??? I say yes. Finally get to see what he was making moves for.

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Well at most they'd get ahold of Who's Who but I don't see a situation where they can actually grab Robin yet again. But that's just me.

If they were able to snag Robin again it'd be another Enies Lobby arc incoming

Unless she became what the war was fighting over as she is the only person who can decipher the poneglyphs

Which makes her valuable to pretty much everyone

But Wano is pretty much the Straw Hats coming out of cocoons and becoming Beautiful Yonko Crew Butterflies

As everyone has gotten tremendous power buffs since Wano has started. Luffy with Ryuo, Zoro with Enma and CoC, Sanji with Vinsmoke DNA and so on

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CP-0 feel more like the information gatherers i wouldn't say they aren't strong but i still think CP-9 would be stronger

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No way would CP-9 be stronger CP-0 has taken in CP-9 members and Rob isn't even the one calling the shots.

I'd imagine CP-0 is on the same level as the Straw Hat crew

Especially due to the fact Oda has been waiting this long to use them.

I see a head on collision with both groups eventually but not during Wano

Probably when the SHs attack Mariejois is when we'll see what they're capable of.

Unless they kidnap Robin then Mariejois is the next destination

Assuming that's the closest WG Stronghold to Wano

But what CP-0 does here and how Kaido will react to deciding Luffy is JoyBoy will really change my theories

Depending on Kaido's interest in JoyBoy

If he wants to see what Luffy will do I can see him allying himself with Luffy much like Crocodile

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bruh CP0 wanted to recruit Big Mom as a CP0 member from mother Caramel, so they definetly want strongest members