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prisma wave Jul 7, 2022, 2:48 PM

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java -jar velocity.jar
echo "closed"

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It's becoming

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Blocking*

obtuse gale Jul 7, 2022, 2:52 PM

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It's becoming...

hot hull Jul 7, 2022, 2:55 PM

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The world is becoming..

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@static zealot

static zealot Jul 7, 2022, 3:29 PM

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hot hull <@444552204158763016>

haha

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😿

static zealot Jul 7, 2022, 3:30 PM

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prisma wave ```bash java -jar velocity.jar echo "closed" ```

alright. that's good to know. Now to figure out how to do the rest. thanks

obtuse gale Jul 7, 2022, 3:35 PM

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it's becoming

prisma wave Jul 7, 2022, 3:43 PM

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youre becoming annoying

ruby dew Jul 8, 2022, 7:52 AM

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this server is weird

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with one of the most weirdest chat i have ever seen

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more like awkward

distant sun Jul 8, 2022, 8:13 AM

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blobLeaving

ruby dew Jul 8, 2022, 8:21 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/omor-please-use-an-unoccupied-gif-22456294

Tenor

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https://tenor.com/view/peace-ghost-gif-4978918

Tenor

brittle leaf Jul 8, 2022, 9:32 AM

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MeruConcern

uneven vapor Jul 8, 2022, 9:35 AM

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I encounter a bug or not wanted behaviour when I used Object::toString. of some reason it convert both values and the key toString (I use #toMap in stream) . So both key and value transform to map key.

took me like 1/2 hour´s to find the problem lol 🙂

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Is way I both like and hate stream 🙂 some times you get unwanted results.

potent nest Jul 8, 2022, 9:37 AM

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Well if you have a stream of Entries, that’s obviously what you get

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Not really an issue with streams

uneven vapor Jul 8, 2022, 9:39 AM

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potent nest Well if you have a stream of Entries, that’s obviously what you get

Yeah I explain it poorly, but did not expect that method would covert both value and key to the same place.

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what is it they say, you learn from your mistakes 🙂

quiet depot Jul 8, 2022, 9:42 AM

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you're streaming entries

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the object is Entry

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that's what you're calling toString on

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entry contains both the key and value

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you can call toString on the key or value specifically in toMap

uneven vapor Jul 8, 2022, 9:48 AM

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quiet depot you can call toString on the key or value specifically in toMap

Yeah I still is little confusing about the stream api. I have recently start to understand map and flatMap (is really nice to use, instead of the normal way).

potent nest Jul 8, 2022, 10:24 AM

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You just need to know Haskell

prisma wave Jul 8, 2022, 10:27 AM

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TRUE

distant sun Jul 8, 2022, 11:26 AM

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you mean ({[<..;[haskel';;.,,>.>>}})?

prisma wave Jul 8, 2022, 11:27 AM

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no

uneven vapor Jul 8, 2022, 11:33 AM

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potent nest You just need to know Haskell

other programming language 🙂 Don´t know how that should solve that small issue.

prisma wave Jul 8, 2022, 11:33 AM

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haskell invented streams

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indirectly

potent nest Jul 8, 2022, 11:37 AM

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yeah those methods are like fundamental concepts in haskell

prisma wave Jul 8, 2022, 11:39 AM

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functions* 🤓

uneven vapor Jul 8, 2022, 11:53 AM

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prisma wave haskell invented streams

Interesting, then i learn something new today 🙂 will next thing be spring influenced included (like streams are today)? 😉

ruby dew Jul 8, 2022, 11:56 AM

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how did yall get funding for your mc server

uneven vapor Jul 8, 2022, 12:00 PM

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ruby dew how did yall get funding for your mc server

bot spawning youtube account with lots of wives.

||I´m only joking||

ruby dew Jul 8, 2022, 12:00 PM

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uneven vapor bot spawning youtube account with lots of wives. ||I´m only joking||

advice taken

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2022, 12:11 PM

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ruby dew how did yall get funding for your mc server

Have a job? I think that’s where a lot of people start

timber oak Jul 8, 2022, 1:29 PM

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What are some of the best frameworks or something like that, to have experience in for future jobs? Or good to have on a CV

potent nest Jul 8, 2022, 1:30 PM

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depends

timber oak Jul 8, 2022, 1:33 PM

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I think for software development

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But not sure

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Something in that area

onyx loom Jul 8, 2022, 1:33 PM

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in terms of java spring would be good

timber oak Jul 8, 2022, 1:34 PM

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What is spring used for?

forest pecan Jul 8, 2022, 1:34 PM

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Web applications but also many other stuff

onyx loom Jul 8, 2022, 1:34 PM

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its a huge framework

timber oak Jul 8, 2022, 1:35 PM

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Any recommended guides for it? When already knowing Java

forest pecan Jul 8, 2022, 1:35 PM

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it’s huge

timber oak Jul 8, 2022, 1:35 PM

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Or where to start

onyx loom Jul 8, 2022, 1:35 PM

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their website

forest pecan Jul 8, 2022, 1:35 PM

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You have to learn slowly ig

timber oak Jul 8, 2022, 1:35 PM

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Oh they have a "learn" page, will use that then

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Thanks

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Does working on open-source minecraft plugins help getting future jobs? Not minecraft related jobs

distant sun Jul 8, 2022, 1:38 PM

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experience is experience after all

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not everyone makes popular libraries and/or applications

timber oak Jul 8, 2022, 1:39 PM

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distant sun experience is experience after all

But does it help to have on a CV or is it just experience?

forest pecan Jul 8, 2022, 1:40 PM

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It doesn’t mean if it’s a video game it can’t be professional

static zealot Jul 8, 2022, 1:40 PM

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I mean it can help but if that's all you have there, doubt it. They do like to see you have hobbies tho. Something you work on outside of jobs just bcz you like it

static zealot Jul 8, 2022, 1:40 PM

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forest pecan It doesn’t mean if it’s a video game it can’t be professional

I mean I guess this is also true.

timber oak Jul 8, 2022, 1:42 PM

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Alright makes sense, thank you

distant sun Jul 8, 2022, 2:58 PM

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I like how angular uses a root symbol instead of a check mark for messages lol

√ Compiled successfully.
√ Browser application bundle generation complete.

hot heron Jul 8, 2022, 3:38 PM

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timber oak Does working on open-source minecraft plugins help getting future jobs? Not mine...

I asked an interviewer for some advice(after I didn't get the job btw) and one of the things he told me is that he will take someone with work experience over personal projects/portfolios almost every time. It's not just about knowing how to code. It's also about experiencing the work environment

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And granted that was his personal opinion, so others might not feel the same

timber oak Jul 8, 2022, 3:48 PM

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hot heron I asked an interviewer for some advice(after I didn't get the job btw) and one o...

But how can I get work experience when it's my first job? Just open-source projects?

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Or well I got a job in a grocery store but that wont do much lol

hot heron Jul 8, 2022, 3:50 PM

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timber oak But how can I get work experience when it's my first job? Just open-source proje...

Internships are how I did

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You could also potentially get lucky

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But if you want to increase your chances, internships are a good option

timber oak Jul 8, 2022, 3:52 PM

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Ahhh yeah makes sense, I can't work full time right now which is an issue though, I should probably just focus on learning for now

hot heron Jul 8, 2022, 3:55 PM

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As always I feel like networking deserves an honorable mention as well

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2022, 3:58 PM

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How to get a job:

have work experience
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/839869018445971476.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

potent nest Jul 8, 2022, 4:02 PM

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(at least 5 years)

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2022, 4:04 PM

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potent nest (at least 5 years)

You're probably saying this as a joke but this was on LinkedIn as entry level https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/859836451562323998/990747635981885490/unknown.png

potent nest Jul 8, 2022, 4:05 PM

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yeah good luck finding that one person lol

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2022, 4:05 PM

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Like, granted, testing, tooling, git, sure, but jfc

hot heron Jul 8, 2022, 4:12 PM

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I saw one that wanted 5 years required of experience with two different languages

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For an entry level position lol

dense dew Jul 8, 2022, 4:12 PM

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obtuse gale You're probably saying this as a joke but this was on LinkedIn as *entry level* ...

no haskell skills needed?

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trash company

distant sun Jul 8, 2022, 4:14 PM

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obtuse gale You're probably saying this as a joke but this was on LinkedIn as *entry level* ...

"We dont really need a person but if someone wants to apply, why not"

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I found your offer @ Emily https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/vto2xw/masters_degree_and_only_2_years_experience_needed/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

r/ProgrammerHumor - Master's degree and only 2 years experience nee...

4,290 votes and 744 comments so far on Reddit

naive ingot Jul 8, 2022, 4:43 PM

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Question, so im trying to move a file into a logs directory and then zip it but im getting this error: https://paste.helpch.at/agumucanic.bash
and this is my code:

Map<String, String> env = new HashMap<>();
        env.put("create", "true");

        URI uri = URI.create("jar:file:/" + this.getDataFolder().getAbsoluteFile() + "/logs/" + new SimpleDateFormat("yyyy-MM-dd HH:mm").format(new Date()) + ".zip");

        try {
            FileSystem zipfs = FileSystems.newFileSystem(uri, env);
            Path externalConfigFile = Paths.get(this.getDataFolder().getAbsolutePath() + "/config.yml");
            Path pathInZipFile = zipfs.getPath("/config.yml");

            Files.copy(externalConfigFile, pathInZipFile, StandardCopyOption.REPLACE_EXISTING);
        } catch (IOException e) {
            e.printStackTrace();
        }```

potent nest Jul 8, 2022, 4:50 PM

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don't use the full path in the zip

naive ingot Jul 8, 2022, 4:52 PM

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Should just put the name of the zip inside of the logs folder?

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so like new SimpleDateFormat("yyyy-MM-dd HH:mm").format(new Date()) + ".zip"

potent nest Jul 8, 2022, 4:53 PM

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it's not about the name of the zip file, it's about the name of the entry in the zip file

naive ingot Jul 8, 2022, 4:54 PM

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The path in zip file is only config.yml?

potent nest Jul 8, 2022, 4:55 PM

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ah lol now I see

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then it might be related to the mixed / and \

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just don't use the old file api anywhere :p

naive ingot Jul 8, 2022, 4:57 PM

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But if i change it

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https://i.imgur.com/UWiEoKy.png

half harness Jul 8, 2022, 4:59 PM

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You can try https://stackoverflow.com/a/54687000/14105665 which doesn't require creating a URI

Stack Overflow

How to create a zip file in Java

I have a dynamic text file that picks content from a database according to the user's query. I have to write this content into a text file and zip it in a folder in a servlet. How should I do this?

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Or

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wait

potent nest Jul 8, 2022, 5:00 PM

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you shouldn't need an URI for the file system either

half harness Jul 8, 2022, 5:00 PM

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naive ingot https://i.imgur.com/UWiEoKy.png

use /

naive ingot Jul 8, 2022, 5:00 PM

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thats what i was using

half harness Jul 8, 2022, 5:01 PM

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use / everywhere

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since the file path has \

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so you can do a .replace

potent nest Jul 8, 2022, 5:01 PM

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no just use a Path

naive ingot Jul 8, 2022, 5:04 PM

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ok

naive ingot Jul 8, 2022, 5:04 PM

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half harness so you can do a `.replace`

ill try that

potent nest Jul 8, 2022, 5:05 PM

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tf

naive ingot Jul 8, 2022, 5:11 PM

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half harness You can try https://stackoverflow.com/a/54687000/14105665 which doesn't require ...

I got it working with this thanks!

karmic fjord Jul 8, 2022, 6:52 PM

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or File.separator

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i had issues with that slash problems for linux before

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2022, 6:54 PM

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Path.of("foo", "bar", "baz.txt") 😌

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:14 PM

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hey ya'll, so it's my first time scripting with java and I'm trying to make an autoranking script for new player. (7 groups you can be off the bat) Thing is, i have less than zero clue what I'm doing and I'd like to request if one of ya'll could go over my script and help me figure out what I'm supposed to be doing. I feel like a 1st grader making new words.

forest pecan Jul 8, 2022, 9:31 PM

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Scripting with Java?

sick belfry Jul 8, 2022, 9:32 PM

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ew

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:39 PM

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man, they said "ew" for scripting with Skript

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I dont know what to do

brittle leaf Jul 8, 2022, 9:41 PM

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skript is ew

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itd called programming

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:41 PM

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scripting period is ew

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i feel like 2 year old

brittle leaf Jul 8, 2022, 9:42 PM

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scripting is what kids do when they wanna look cool on a cod lobby

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:42 PM

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this isnt helping solve my issue

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but thanks for the input

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2022, 9:42 PM

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of course not, this is helpchat, the least you'll get here is actual help but get flamed for ""doing things wrong""

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:43 PM

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thats fine

brittle leaf Jul 8, 2022, 9:43 PM

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when you say autorank script, makes me thing you have everything in 1 class

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:43 PM

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i just wanted someone to go over my script because i have no clue here

brittle leaf Jul 8, 2022, 9:44 PM

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go over it and do what exactly? usually people come because something doesnt work right

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:45 PM

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just tell me if it looks ok. Once again I have no idea what I'm doing so I don't know if what I have will work or break. Simple as that

urban sleet Jul 8, 2022, 9:45 PM

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This is usually where someone would tell you "try it and see"

brittle leaf Jul 8, 2022, 9:45 PM

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you need to test your code

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exactly

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try it and see

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:46 PM

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if i had the slightest clue on how to do that, this would be a different conversation

cobalt marlin Jul 8, 2022, 9:47 PM

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did you try..

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compiling?

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:47 PM

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I have zero idea on how literally any of this works. I only know if, thens, and functions, not placeholders, static thingys or just idk man this is cancer for me

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:47 PM

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cobalt marlin compiling?

if i knew what that was 🤷‍♂️

cobalt marlin Jul 8, 2022, 9:48 PM

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you might want to start from basics then

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jumping into plugin development with no prior programming knowledge is a bit

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difficult

brittle leaf Jul 8, 2022, 9:48 PM

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very difficult

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and painful

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very very painful

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:48 PM

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i was just told to make an array with my groups, and randomly pick them, and some other things about other things

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Yes. Very painful!

cobalt marlin Jul 8, 2022, 9:49 PM

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you should watch some videos on java

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before attempting it

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:49 PM

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now that i did do

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I know the basics

cobalt marlin Jul 8, 2022, 9:49 PM

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they didnt show how to compile?

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:49 PM

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not from what i recal

brittle leaf Jul 8, 2022, 9:50 PM

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tbf compiling a spigot plugin is different from compiling a regular java project

cobalt marlin Jul 8, 2022, 9:50 PM

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noot really honestly

brittle leaf Jul 8, 2022, 9:50 PM

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then again last time i compiled a java applet i didnt use maven or gradle

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:51 PM

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like what does "PlaceholderAPI.static.setPlaceholders(Bukkitplayer" mean, that right there is my most confusion

brittle leaf Jul 8, 2022, 9:51 PM

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what the

cobalt marlin Jul 8, 2022, 9:51 PM

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its just an api

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for placeholderAPI plugin

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thats not java related

brittle leaf Jul 8, 2022, 9:52 PM

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that not related to making a basic bitch spigot plugin

cobalt marlin Jul 8, 2022, 9:53 PM

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brittle leaf that not related to making a basic bitch spigot plugin

you are basically hooking up to another plugin

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API means that its an interface basically between your code and their internal code

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:53 PM

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Imma just sit here and twiddle my thumbs

brittle leaf Jul 8, 2022, 9:53 PM

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you need to make an empty spigot plugin project

cobalt marlin Jul 8, 2022, 9:53 PM

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you really need to just watch couple of basics videos

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thesourcecode's first couple videos are okay

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:54 PM

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thats what im watching

cobalt marlin Jul 8, 2022, 9:54 PM

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just dont get too used to their coding conventions

forest pecan Jul 8, 2022, 9:54 PM

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Yeah they are bad

brittle leaf Jul 8, 2022, 9:54 PM

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theres a guide on the spigot website in there development section

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:54 PM

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honestly some things went right over my head

brittle leaf Jul 8, 2022, 9:54 PM

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for an empty spigot project

forest pecan Jul 8, 2022, 9:54 PM

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Also, don’t expect to learn this in one day

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I’ve been learning for almost 3-4 years now

cobalt marlin Jul 8, 2022, 9:54 PM

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yes, its a year long process minimum

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you can probably make okay plugins in a month or two though

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:55 PM

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I just wanted to randomly assign someone a group off join because I'm not always there to do it myself

cobalt marlin Jul 8, 2022, 9:55 PM

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the issue is

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your probably have those groups on another plugin right?

forest pecan Jul 8, 2022, 9:55 PM

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LuckPerms?

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:55 PM

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through luckperms yea

cobalt marlin Jul 8, 2022, 9:55 PM

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so you gotta hook up to that and assign

forest pecan Jul 8, 2022, 9:55 PM

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Mhm

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You know in LuckPerms you can set the default group on join

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In the configuration

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:56 PM

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yea

forest pecan Jul 8, 2022, 9:56 PM

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So why not try that?

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Instead of coding cause you only code when you have to

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But I’m not saying learning to code is bad at all. I’m just saying that you should always try to search for something first in the configuration file

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:57 PM

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I have 7 groups to choose from

brittle leaf Jul 8, 2022, 9:58 PM

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a menu with some buttons to pick a group can work, with like deluxemenus or something

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:59 PM

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ok

cobalt marlin Jul 8, 2022, 9:59 PM

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i think it just needs to assign

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a random group to new players on join

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:59 PM

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i mean yes, but not necessarily

cobalt marlin Jul 8, 2022, 9:59 PM

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there might be a plugin for it already honestly

forest pecan Jul 8, 2022, 9:59 PM

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I believe that at the beginning you should resort to solutions as what Luna said because you don’t have a great coding experience. But along that learn coding too

upper galleon Jul 8, 2022, 9:59 PM

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cobalt marlin there might be a plugin for it already honestly

there is but its broken on me twice

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AutoRank by Staarvin

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it had troubles enabling then disabling do to some file issue that I don't have access to

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but yea, what Luna said is actually an optimal idea. Then another problem occurs for my ranking system. but thatll be another problem for another day

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Thanks!

forest pecan Jul 8, 2022, 11:27 PM

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I can’t believe it

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https://esolangs.org/wiki/Among_Us

Among Us

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So beautiful

gilded granite Jul 8, 2022, 11:43 PM

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hi guys what do u think of my webseite? https://127.0.0.1

forest pecan Jul 8, 2022, 11:44 PM

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Absolutely stunning

gilded granite Jul 8, 2022, 11:44 PM

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i spent many hour on it 🙂

forest pecan Jul 8, 2022, 11:44 PM

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Gorgeous

gilded granite Jul 8, 2022, 11:44 PM

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thank u

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i also made a server host company

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what u think

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https://garlic.host

forest pecan Jul 8, 2022, 11:44 PM

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I love it

half harness Jul 9, 2022, 2:32 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/6FFOp2B.png

Imgur

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❓

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2 stars = 11/10

pallid gale Jul 9, 2022, 2:32 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

inner umbra Jul 9, 2022, 2:50 AM

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half harness https://i.imgur.com/6FFOp2B.png

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lol

half harness Jul 9, 2022, 2:50 AM

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🥴

upper galleon Jul 9, 2022, 5:37 AM

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Luna, deluxemenus works perfectly after a tad struggle, darn ' ', so annoying lol.

ionic galleon Jul 9, 2022, 7:33 AM

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Hello, I am looking for a Placeholder timer that starts at zero and then counts up infinitely. If the server restarts, the timer should just keep counting. I want to display this timer on a Holograph, how long the server has existed. Does anyone know if there is such a thing? Like the %server_uptime% placeholder but that it continues to count time even after restart that players can see how long the server already exists.

karmic fjord Jul 9, 2022, 8:24 AM

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half harness ❓

it was a misfire, i guess, i hope

karmic fjord Jul 9, 2022, 8:26 AM

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ionic galleon Hello, I am looking for a Placeholder timer that starts at zero and then counts ...

i don't think that there is an expansion which provides what you want but you can make some work for server_uptime

ionic galleon Jul 9, 2022, 8:26 AM

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karmic fjord i don't think that there is an expansion which provides what you want but you ca...

what for work? i don't want to show just the server_uptime... 😄

karmic fjord Jul 9, 2022, 8:27 AM

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you need to store last count to remember again when server started to continue from the last value

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something like a config file or just even a text file would be enough
idk if papi provides a data holder for this situation

timber oak Jul 9, 2022, 10:17 AM

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How is this an invalid request?

[Serivece] Experienced server owner or server manager
[Request] I'm a developer looking for someone to start a server with, the server will most likely be Skyblock or Prison but I'm up for suggestions, I will handle the development side of the server, but need someone to manage it that has experience with attracting new players etc.

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For #992627658229809162

pallid gale Jul 9, 2022, 10:18 AM

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typo in [Serivece]

timber oak Jul 9, 2022, 10:18 AM

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oh

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lol

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mb

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Yeah works now lol, thanks

distant sun Jul 9, 2022, 5:04 PM

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Any idea if its possible to have "Sign commits" enabled for all projects by default?

obtuse gale Jul 9, 2022, 5:13 PM

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yeah

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git config --global whatever.the.setting.is idkidk

distant sun Jul 9, 2022, 6:12 PM

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think_smart

obtuse gale Jul 9, 2022, 6:20 PM

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distant sun <:think_smart:674693949201580066>

okay to properly answer that, just looked up my settings, it's in commit.gpgsign, set it to true, lol

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I remember spending too much time searching in the docs what the setting is named

distant sun Jul 9, 2022, 6:33 PM

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Ty xD

pastel imp Jul 9, 2022, 7:48 PM

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uhm any ideas of a plugin that lets users join even when mojang services are down?

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Auth services decided to die

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lol

hot hull Jul 9, 2022, 7:49 PM

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Don't use mojangs auth service

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ez pz

distant sun Jul 9, 2022, 7:49 PM

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online-mode=false

pastel imp Jul 9, 2022, 7:51 PM

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fair

half harness Jul 9, 2022, 7:53 PM

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pastel imp uhm any ideas of a plugin that lets users join even when mojang services are dow...

that'd allow players to fake being other players 🥴

unless you mean checking via like an IP or something

pastel imp Jul 9, 2022, 7:56 PM

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half harness that'd allow players to fake being other players 🥴 unless you mean checking v...

ye, just ignore it, I was dumb, it's just for my test server

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but that's actually a good idea, checking via ip

quiet sierra Jul 9, 2022, 8:03 PM

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I wonder if it's possible to make an AI model that's made purely to fill out web forms as humanely as possible

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Tricking recaptcha v3

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PepoThink

obtuse gale Jul 9, 2022, 8:06 PM

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probably

cinder flare Jul 9, 2022, 8:11 PM

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honestly third-party auth servers when?

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get Paper to run their own auth service

obtuse gale Jul 9, 2022, 8:21 PM

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pretty sure you can change the uri it connects to

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without going out of your way and using a fork

cinder flare Jul 9, 2022, 8:25 PM

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yeah I'm sure you can, problem being a reputable authentication server provider lol

obtuse gale Jul 9, 2022, 8:26 PM

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oh you mean hosting one for the general public

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hm

lavish notch Jul 9, 2022, 8:27 PM

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Does BungeeAPI have a similar method to Bukkit#getOfflinePlayer(Player)? I'm looking to get a player's UUID from a player name string provided via a command argument.

obtuse gale Jul 9, 2022, 8:27 PM

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no

lavish notch Jul 9, 2022, 8:27 PM

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https://tenor.com/bIvEP.gif

Tenor

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Gotta query Mojang's account shit I'm guessing then?

obtuse gale Jul 9, 2022, 8:28 PM

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bungee doesn't store any user info, you'd need to either do the caching/storage yourself or web req to mojang (or, like, both with the request as fallback)

lavish notch Jul 9, 2022, 8:28 PM

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Aight, cheers.

ocean quartz Jul 9, 2022, 8:54 PM

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Messaging channel to get the user offline data from the server kek

obtuse gale Jul 9, 2022, 8:55 PM

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lol

brittle leaf Jul 9, 2022, 10:53 PM

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get it from one of the hubs ez

quiet depot Jul 10, 2022, 5:06 AM

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cinder flare get Paper to run their own auth service

fyi pretty sure paper is pro reporting

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at least that's what I gathered when I looked in their discord the other day

inner umbra Jul 10, 2022, 5:18 AM

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quiet depot fyi pretty sure paper is pro reporting

"pro reporting"?

quiet depot Jul 10, 2022, 5:18 AM

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well you can either be for reporting

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or against reporting

inner umbra Jul 10, 2022, 5:18 AM

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Oh the chat

quiet depot Jul 10, 2022, 5:18 AM

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that's what star was talking about

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custom auth service to get around mojang bans

inner umbra Jul 10, 2022, 5:19 AM

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Its the client thats banned not the auth. You have to create a new launcher.

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Unless they have both (Server side and client side).

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 5:31 AM

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What

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You can still play singleplayer if you‘re banned afaik

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Yeah it says so in the FAQ

inner umbra Jul 10, 2022, 7:31 AM

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potent nest You can still play singleplayer if you‘re banned afaik

Singleplayer. But not multiplayer or realms. It will black out the options and tell you you're banned.

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 7:39 AM

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What's the command that send this output?

cinder flare Jul 10, 2022, 7:40 AM

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manic vector What's the command that send this output?

/spark gc

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 7:41 AM

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Tysm

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Is this okay?

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https://imgur.com/h3NK735

cinder flare Jul 10, 2022, 7:41 AM

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oh yeah, the pauses being 0ms is the dream

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 7:42 AM

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Perfect

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Another info

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 7:42 AM

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well everything else would be weird when using ZGC

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 7:42 AM

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Could you please help me with a timings/spark i have?

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I'm having some lag issues, it was yesterday (i had old gc)

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now it's to early in the morning so i have just a few player to do some other timings

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 7:45 AM

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if you used G1 on a current JDK version and aikars flags and you had lags due to GC, there's most likely something wrong

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 7:45 AM

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idk if they were caused by aikars flags

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i just had big lag spikes

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server went to 13 tps, and then 20

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down to 14, and then 20

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it even reached 7 tps yesterday

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for like a couple of seconds

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 7:46 AM

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do you have timings from that time?

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 7:46 AM

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i do

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https://timings.aikar.co/?id=900dc173ec204365a2b9fcc39c9ab8f8

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This is the timings

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 7:48 AM

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what CPU is that?

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 7:48 AM

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AMD Ryzen™ 7 3700X

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Should be good

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 7:49 AM

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it says it only has 4 cores

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 7:50 AM

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https://imgur.com/a/AB2daBB

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 7:51 AM

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are you running it in a docker container or something like that?

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 7:51 AM

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I don't

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https://imgur.com/pmxYkik

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pretty sure it has 16 xD

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 7:51 AM

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potent nest are you running it in a docker container or something like that?

Where did you see it?

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wrong ping

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 7:51 AM

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potent nest it says it only has 4 cores

i meant this

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where did you get this info?

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 7:51 AM

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in the config tab, system config

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 7:52 AM

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hm

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why is that 4?

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 7:52 AM

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that's the question :p

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 7:52 AM

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i just run the server in a screen

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but i'm quite sure that's not the problem

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 7:53 AM

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I think spark can show that info too, maybe you can find out if it says the same

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 7:54 AM

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you mean inside the profiler?

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Or with a command?

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 7:54 AM

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not sure if it's accessible via a command

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 7:54 AM

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https://spark.lucko.me/gfBZwtT3Q6

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This is a spark from yesterday at around the same time

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Is it helpful somehow?

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 7:55 AM

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The system is running Linux (amd64) version "5.15.0-40-generic" and has 4 CPU threads available.
hm

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 7:55 AM

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wtf

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why

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 8:02 AM

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idk, but you should try to find out ig

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 8:02 AM

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Is that a real problem?

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I mean, since mc is based on single thread

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 8:05 AM

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while the main thread is the most important one, there are more threads involved (e.g. chunk loading, lighting) and also the JVM profits from having more cores available, especially when using ZGC (but also applies for G1)

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 8:07 AM

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So can it be the problem that’s generating the lag?

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 8:10 AM

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well it certainly doesn't help in reducing the lag

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 8:10 AM

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Yeah i see

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So, right now I’m searching a solution for this

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In the meanwhile, did you find any other relevant infos from timing/spark?

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 8:12 AM

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it all looks pretty normal besides the old gc runs

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 8:12 AM

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So why those lag spikes?

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 8:14 AM

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well if it's overloaded constantly, it's just too much going on

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if it's only 4 lag spikes, it came from the old gc runs

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 8:17 AM

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wym with "if it's only 4 lag spikes"?

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The system is running Linux (amd64) version "5.15.0-40-generic" and has 16 CPU threads available.

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Problem fixed.

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It was because of old aikars flag limiting cpu available power

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 8:19 AM

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manic vector wym with "if it's only 4 lag spikes"?

there were 4 old gen collections, those take a lot of time and will stall your server

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 8:19 AM

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So that’s why of the lag spikes?

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 8:20 AM

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if those lag spikes were only a few seconds, most likely

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 8:21 AM

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Yeah, they went down from 20 to 14

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And then back to 20

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But constantly

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 8:27 AM

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there were only 4 old gen collections before you did the timings, so it can only be relevant for 4 lag spikes

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 8:28 AM

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4?

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So I suppose that’s not fixing the problem

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So what are the lag spikes I have caused by?

pastel imp Jul 10, 2022, 12:45 PM

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quick question, does anyone know if Plotsquared API has changed much from v4, v5 and v6? I wanna know if I can make a plugin compatible with those 3 versions since 1 is paid (freemium) and the others are free

static zealot Jul 10, 2022, 12:49 PM

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pretty sure they're like complete rewrites

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 12:49 PM

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only v4 is fully free

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but there's a lot of restructuring between v4 and v5, and v6 has some parts basically rewritten too

static zealot Jul 10, 2022, 12:50 PM

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you can't even get v5 anymore. its the same spigot page as v6

half harness Jul 10, 2022, 12:50 PM

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did v5 used to be free? or was it always paid

pastel imp Jul 10, 2022, 12:50 PM

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True

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So there is only v4 and v6

half harness Jul 10, 2022, 12:51 PM

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static zealot you can't even get v5 anymore. its the same spigot page as v6

well if you purchase it, can't you get it still?

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on the versions tab

pastel imp Jul 10, 2022, 12:51 PM

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So since they are complete rewrites, the api has completely changed?

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 12:51 PM

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v5 was the first version that was posted as premium resource

static zealot Jul 10, 2022, 12:51 PM

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pastel imp So since they are complete rewrites, the api has completely changed?

for the most part they're different yeah.

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 12:52 PM

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pastel imp So since they are complete rewrites, the api has completely changed?

they aren't complete rewrites, but v4 had other package names and there are large differences between v5 and v6 too, mostly about messaging though

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rewriting everything at once would be an insane amount of work lol

pastel imp Jul 10, 2022, 12:53 PM

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So how would I approach creating a plugin using the plot api?

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That supports both

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 12:54 PM

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depends on what you actually need, but you'll most likely end up writing separate code for each version

pastel imp Jul 10, 2022, 12:57 PM

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Oof okay

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 12:59 PM

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I mean that's basically the reason why they are different major versions

pastel imp Jul 10, 2022, 12:59 PM

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Ye fair enough

foggy pond Jul 10, 2022, 2:14 PM

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Why are cakes not water-loggable

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 2:42 PM

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Yo guys

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What are these tps drops caused by?

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https://timings.aikar.co/?id=328682ccaf2949f8a85b9e7a3536f8d5

half harness Jul 10, 2022, 2:48 PM

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Lowest TPS I could find was 19.64

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https://aikar.co/mcflags.html could help

Aikar's Thoughts

JVM Tuning: Optimized G1GC for Minecraft - Aikar's Thoughts

Learn more about my In depth study on tuning the G1GC garbage collector to be optimized for how Minecraft servers run, and keep low pause efficient usage.

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 2:55 PM

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half harness Lowest TPS I could find was 19.64

I'm zgc garbage collector

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 2:56 PM

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obtuse gale Have a job? I think that’s where a lot of people start

oh alr makes sense lol

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 2:56 PM

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https://imgur.com/bHEsMlS

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And i'm talking about these tps loss

half harness Jul 10, 2022, 2:57 PM

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manic vector And i'm talking about these tps loss

green = tps

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 2:57 PM

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orange = tps loss

half harness Jul 10, 2022, 2:57 PM

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try to send a spark report

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oh wait

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oh yea

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u have spark installed

obtuse gale Jul 10, 2022, 2:58 PM

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ruby dew oh alr makes sense lol

Yeah most people who run servers only do it as a side project so they usually have a comfortable source of income to fund it themselves properly

half harness Jul 10, 2022, 2:58 PM

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I've gtg rn but maybe someone can help
try sending a spark report when the lag spike happens

obtuse gale Jul 10, 2022, 2:58 PM

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manic vector https://timings.aikar.co/?id=328682ccaf2949f8a85b9e7a3536f8d5

Turn off timings permanently and send a spark report

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And ofc use aikar's flags

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 2:58 PM

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aren't those old?

obtuse gale Jul 10, 2022, 2:59 PM

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No

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 2:59 PM

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a lot of people told me zgc are way better

obtuse gale Jul 10, 2022, 2:59 PM

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They still work as efficiently as ever as far as I know

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I'm not an expert on Garbage Collection so I wouldn't know better though lmao

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 2:59 PM

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obtuse gale Yeah most people who run servers only do it as a side project so they usually ha...

im thinking of making it my main source of income since im still a student

obtuse gale Jul 10, 2022, 3:00 PM

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That's a bad idea

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:00 PM

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obtuse gale I'm not an expert on Garbage Collection so I wouldn't know better though lmao

trying zgc, i had some bad lag spikes with aikars

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and now they're gone

obtuse gale Jul 10, 2022, 3:00 PM

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Servers aren't as profitable as you think unless you make it big

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 3:00 PM

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but ofc i dont open it for money i just wanna have fun with it

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:00 PM

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obtuse gale Turn off timings permanently and send a spark report

profiler?

obtuse gale Jul 10, 2022, 3:00 PM

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Yeah /spark profiler --only-ticks-over 50

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 3:00 PM

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obtuse gale Servers aren't as profitable as you think unless you make it big

oh fr?
do you think something like 100 players will be at least profitable?
idk i have never got past 10 concurrent players because of my bad management

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or the profit is not measured in terms of concurrent players

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:01 PM

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i had a 300 players network

obtuse gale Jul 10, 2022, 3:01 PM

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Depends on what your server's like and how p2w you're willing to go lol

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:01 PM

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and i can tell you that, if you can market it well, you can make a lot of money

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 3:02 PM

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manic vector and i can tell you that, if you can market it well, you can make a lot of money

thats something i wanna hear
but i bet you have a big brain to manage all that right
like besides plugin coding theres a lot more going to management and marketing

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:03 PM

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ruby dew thats something i wanna hear but i bet you have a big brain to manage all that ...

I'm the owner, i try to split all the works that has to be done trought the staff members

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like coding, staff management, marketing etc

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i'm pretty sure i couldn't do what i did without them

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so be sure to have a GOOD staff team

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that will work with you because of passion

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and not because of money

obtuse gale Jul 10, 2022, 3:04 PM

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manic vector that will work with you because of passion

Tbh those are hard to find for anything that isn't just a moderator/helper etc

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:04 PM

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if you take someone in your staff and he just thinks about money it will ruin everything

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:05 PM

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obtuse gale Tbh those are hard to find for anything that isn't just a moderator/helper etc

i know

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that's part of the owner job

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but, from a personal experience, it's better missing a staff role then having a staffer that should cover that role but can't do it

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(sorry for my bad english, i'm italian)

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Maroon btw i think the profiler is ready

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https://spark.lucko.me/NcqjhdezWx

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Here's the link

pliant dagger Jul 10, 2022, 3:08 PM

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Does anyone know any decent weather APIs that update frequently for forecasted weather?

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Currently using weatherapi.com but it only updates every 4-6 hours

obtuse gale Jul 10, 2022, 3:09 PM

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manic vector https://spark.lucko.me/NcqjhdezWx

Yeah you don't seem to be having much lag at all in this profile

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:10 PM

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I know

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 3:10 PM

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-XX:ZCollectionInterval=30 why do you have this flag set

obtuse gale Jul 10, 2022, 3:11 PM

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then we can't find the issue woeisme

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:11 PM

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What's wrong with it?

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 3:11 PM

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manic vector so be sure to have a GOOD staff team

oh alr you have a very big staff team?
and have like a lot of departments including arts maker and something like marketing right ?
are your staff members paid?

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:11 PM

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obtuse gale then we can't find the issue <:woeisme:845042875241988137>

I just would like to understand from what those tps loss i see in the timings are caused

potent nest Jul 10, 2022, 3:11 PM

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you shouldn't need it

obtuse gale Jul 10, 2022, 3:11 PM

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potent nest `-XX:ZCollectionInterval=30` why do you have this flag set

I'm guessing he grabbed the whole configuration from somewhere

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:11 PM

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ruby dew oh alr you have a very big staff team? and have like a lot of departments includ...

They're not paid, they do it because they like it

obtuse gale Jul 10, 2022, 3:11 PM

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manic vector I just would like to understand from what those tps loss i see in the timings ar...

We can't tell you what the tps loss is if there is no tps loss in the profiler

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:11 PM

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obtuse gale We can't tell you what the tps loss is if there is no tps loss in the profiler

so timings sucks ahahahah

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 3:12 PM

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and how did you even find all your staff members

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:12 PM

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ruby dew and how did you even find all your staff members

https://www.tiktok.com/@salomonpicos

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 3:12 PM

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do you need a microphone or sth? or something like a resume

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:12 PM

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yeah for sure xD

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I mean, that's the basic

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:12 PM

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ruby dew do you need a microphone or sth? or something like a resume

ea resum?

obtuse gale Jul 10, 2022, 3:12 PM

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manic vector so timings sucks ahahahah

Yeah timings makes tons of calls and lags your server considerably, so its better to just disable it

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:12 PM

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obtuse gale Yeah timings makes tons of calls and lags your server considerably, so its bette...

i see

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tysm

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 3:12 PM

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manic vector ea resum?

or something like a resume

obtuse gale Jul 10, 2022, 3:12 PM

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If you update your purpur version, they remove timings completely I believe

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That's in 1.19 though

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 3:13 PM

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also you said you HAD a mineraft server
now its sold or down i suppose?
Does it mean it needs a lot of work to maintain the server

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:13 PM

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obtuse gale If you update your purpur version, they remove timings completely I believe

Purpur already disable them on startup

obtuse gale Jul 10, 2022, 3:13 PM

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Yeah don't re-enable them lol

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:13 PM

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ruby dew also you said you HAD a mineraft server now its sold or down i suppose? Does it...

No, we just changed everything

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And the one i have one it's a complete remake

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 3:13 PM

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oh alr

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:13 PM

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We re opened it one month and 2 weeks ago

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29th may

obtuse gale Jul 10, 2022, 3:13 PM

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ruby dew also you said you HAD a mineraft server now its sold or down i suppose? Does it...

It does need a lot of work yes

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If you want to make something special, that is

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:14 PM

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With the new server the player peak has been like 82 iirc

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and that's pretty good since we just been closed for like 6 months

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 3:15 PM

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obtuse gale If you want to make something special, that is

im thinking of making a hero/anime based fighting server
basically a fully rpg server with a bit of gamemodes
And it needs intensive plugin coding

I did open one back in 2017 with two characters but nobody wanted to play

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 3:15 PM

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manic vector and that's pretty good since we just been closed for like 6 months

closed for 6 months and still 82 players wtf

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:15 PM

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yeah we did a amazing job

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me and the staff

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i'm so happy with this

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we did a AMAZING vote system

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with rank and stuff

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and with just 82 players PEAK we are the 3* server in italian server list

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 3:16 PM

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manic vector i'm so happy with this

glad to hear that
how much time did you dedicate to make your server? and which part did you mainly focus on
sorry a lot of questions

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:16 PM

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ruby dew glad to hear that how much time did you dedicate to make your server? and which...

I basically dedicated the time from when i wake up till when i go to sleep to the server

obtuse gale Jul 10, 2022, 3:16 PM

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ruby dew im thinking of making a hero/anime based fighting server basically a fully rpg ...

Well you'd have to find a developer who's willing to do that for free, which are very few and if they do exist, they're usually not very skilled.

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So your other option would be learning to do it yourself

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 3:17 PM

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obtuse gale Well you'd have to find a developer who's willing to do that for free, which are...

i did all the coding myself with a bit of nms

obtuse gale Jul 10, 2022, 3:17 PM

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Oh nice nice

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 3:17 PM

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but i just dont know how to make it a brand

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:17 PM

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i think you have to think from the player's view when you create a server

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 3:17 PM

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manic vector I basically dedicated the time from when i wake up till when i go to sleep to th...

wow thats a lot of time
i always just lose motivation midway
or not, not even 1% of the server made

obtuse gale Jul 10, 2022, 3:17 PM

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ruby dew but i just dont know how to make it a brand

Yeah it'd need aggressive marketing to become one

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:18 PM

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Not enough trust in the project

forest pecan Jul 10, 2022, 3:18 PM

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Developing this stuff sounds like a pain

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 3:18 PM

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manic vector i think you have to think from the player's view when you create a server

player's view hmm
thats the thing i suck at

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:18 PM

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So take someone that do it

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 3:18 PM

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forest pecan Developing this stuff sounds like a pain

yes it is
Im estimating a full-fledged server like that would take 1-2 year to develop myself

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 3:19 PM

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manic vector So take someone that do it

get someone that plays mc enough?

forest pecan Jul 10, 2022, 3:19 PM

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Just the fighting/anime aspect I’m talking about

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does not sound fun to code lol

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 3:20 PM

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its alr just some GUI and a bit of maths and nms for now in 1.8
but i suck at arts and im trying to make the skills look pretty

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its fun to see the outcome
but its not fun at all for the development having to constantly refresh your mind visualizing how it will be displayed
thats why i quit back in 2017

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 3:21 PM

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manic vector Not enough trust in the project

thx for your sharing man you are a legend
Im doing the code myself and i guess i need more expertise and passion for my project
learnt a lot :)

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 3:38 PM

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ruby dew thx for your sharing man you are a legend Im doing the code myself and i guess i...

Dw buddy!

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Just find some people that can beta test your server and play it from a "player's view"

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 4:29 PM

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manic vector Just find some people that can beta test your server and play it from a "player'...

alr thx a lot
im more of a programmer than an owner so i have zero experience and tend to be super clumsy when it comes to these stuffs
you are a living legend

can i come back to you when i have more questions about running a server?

ruby dew Jul 10, 2022, 5:01 PM

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hey guys just one quesiton is 6gb a lot for calculation intensive servers?

quiet depot Jul 10, 2022, 5:02 PM

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calculations alone use negligible memory

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 6:05 PM

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ruby dew alr thx a lot im more of a programmer than an owner so i have zero experience a...

For sure buddy

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Whenever you want

manic vector Jul 10, 2022, 6:39 PM

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obtuse gale Yeah timings makes tons of calls and lags your server considerably, so its bette...

What about this buddy?

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https://spark.lucko.me/aZCuYD2L1s

distant sun Jul 11, 2022, 12:06 AM

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forest pecan Jul 11, 2022, 12:17 AM

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Forgetting the CSS file be like the cheese falling off the pizza lol

potent nest Jul 11, 2022, 11:27 AM

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looks like you failed to find the correct channel

forest pecan Jul 11, 2022, 11:29 AM

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This guy posted in #showcase

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Lol

acoustic radish Jul 11, 2022, 11:50 AM

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ruby dew im thinking of making a hero/anime based fighting server basically a fully rpg ...

MMORPG is not an easy genre, it by default sets the content and mechanics complexity much higher than most of regular Minecraft servers, or games.

It's not only very difficult to code, it's also as hard, or even harder to design first.
To create this kind of a server you would need a substantial experience in game design.
I definitely wouldn't recommend it for a beginner or inexperienced creator, because that's a complex topic.
On top of programming and game design knowledge, you also need good experience in project managing, because it's not a simple survival server which can be done in 2 weeks.
It's a long road to go, and you will have to wisely pick your goals and features that you should work on, and abandon the unnecessary ones.

I have been making servers for 8 years already, and only since this year, I have been able to turn any profits. Since then, I've been making lots and lots of servers to play with my friends, I've been coding some fun features, and we were playing it together. This way I have learned a lot, so now I'm able to undertake tougher challenges, which would never be possible if not all these years.

hot hull Jul 11, 2022, 11:53 AM

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Weak

pliant dagger Jul 11, 2022, 2:31 PM

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Does anyone know any decent weather APIs that update frequently for forecasted weather?

distant sun Jul 11, 2022, 2:49 PM

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number -= -1
This is something

static zealot Jul 11, 2022, 5:07 PM

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why

static zealot Jul 11, 2022, 5:07 PM

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pliant dagger Does anyone know any decent weather APIs that update frequently for forecasted w...

I remember using one called open weather map or something like that

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but that was like at least 1 year ago

pliant dagger Jul 11, 2022, 5:09 PM

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static zealot I remember using one called open weather map or something like that

Yeah, only updates every 3-6 hours. Seems to be the common time range 3-6 hours

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There are some that give hourly updates but that's like over $200/month

rotund egret Jul 11, 2022, 5:18 PM

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pliant dagger Does anyone know any decent weather APIs that update frequently for forecasted w...

Us government I think supplies weather data

sage bone Jul 11, 2022, 5:25 PM

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Hello can I get help in this server for issues with discord?

compact perchBOT Jul 11, 2022, 5:34 PM

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FAQ Answer:

Looking for discord support?
HelpChat is a Minecraft plugin and development support server and is not affiliated with discord in any way.
If you require support from discord, we recommend you to visit their official support website at https://support.discord.com
On this website, you can read their FAQs, or open a support ticket if necessary.

half harness Jul 11, 2022, 5:35 PM

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sage bone Hello can I get help in this server for issues with discord?

I mean you can ask for questions that don't require discord staff

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in #off-topic

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but this isn't a discord help server

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it's a server mainly for minecraft stuff

sage bone Jul 11, 2022, 5:36 PM

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Okay thank you

high blaze Jul 11, 2022, 5:36 PM

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is it fine if i look for developers on this chat?

half harness Jul 11, 2022, 5:36 PM

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high blaze is it fine if i look for developers on this chat?

#992627660146626601

static zealot Jul 11, 2022, 5:36 PM

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no

half harness Jul 11, 2022, 5:36 PM

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or #992627658229809162

high blaze Jul 11, 2022, 5:37 PM

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okay thank you

static zealot Jul 11, 2022, 5:37 PM

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but make sure to follow the rules from those channels as well

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they're pinned in each channel

high blaze Jul 11, 2022, 5:37 PM

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awesome thanks

noble jay Jul 11, 2022, 5:58 PM

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If i need a packet listener, and some of the packets I need to listen to have an event in the Event Api, is it worth using the api or is it better to just use the packet listener?

obtuse gale Jul 11, 2022, 6:00 PM

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it depends

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sometimes the event gives more and better context about what is going on

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sometimes listening to the packets directly gives you more insight on some of the interactions

cursive jolt Jul 11, 2022, 6:08 PM

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noble jay If i need a packet listener, and some of the packets I need to listen to have an...

I’d suggest the API unless you need a reason to use packets

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Such as anti cheats should usually always use packets because bukkit doesn’t expose enough

noble jay Jul 11, 2022, 6:11 PM

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thank you @cursive jolt

inner umbra Jul 11, 2022, 6:11 PM

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I just had to look into why I can't get all entities on a server async (since I just want the list)
So had to get the entityManager from ServerLevel.
Bukkit's (spigot's) API is limited more then just what you can access with it.

cursive jolt Jul 11, 2022, 6:13 PM

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inner umbra I just had to look into why I can't get all entities on a server async (since I ...

Still not safe…

inner umbra Jul 11, 2022, 6:13 PM

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cursive jolt Still not safe…

It is. I get the ID's then switch to sync

cursive jolt Jul 11, 2022, 6:14 PM

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There are weird cases where stuff is safe

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It should not be safe to get a chunk from outside the main thread but it is

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The server will execute that request on the main thread

inner umbra Jul 11, 2022, 6:15 PM

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You can alter entities such as armorstands async lol

cursive jolt Jul 11, 2022, 6:15 PM

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Although once you have that chunk, reading anything is unsafe

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Although it may be safe because Mojang synchronizes the palette killing performance

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Although they don’t need any synchronization… it’s weird. It’s like we tell people to not do stuff async then we hurt performance by allowing them to do stuff async that they weren’t meant to do

inner umbra Jul 11, 2022, 6:18 PM

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You gotta remember when servers were first introduced, I don't think it used a separate thread at all xD

rocky lark Jul 11, 2022, 8:12 PM

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Im using foreach loop to iterate between messages sent before and send them to the user. for some reason I'm getting an error that is repreducable but on my computer nothing weird happens..
Maybe due to downgrading java version in mvn to java 17 (I'm using replit)?

Error:
Exception in thread "Thread-3" java.util.ConcurrentModificationException
at java.base/java.util.ArrayList$Itr.checkForComodification(ArrayList.java:1013)
at java.base/java.util.ArrayList$Itr.next(ArrayList.java:967)
at me.fozystyle.JavaChatServer.readThread.run(readThread.java:54)

Code at me.fozystyle.JavaChatServer.readThread.run 54:
if (server.messageHistory != null) {
for (String s : server.messageHistory) {
sendMessage(s);
}
}
btw messageHistory is a String list:

List<String> messageHistory = new ArrayList<>();

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**Please ping me if you think you've a solution **

forest pecan Jul 11, 2022, 8:15 PM

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#development

forest pecan Jul 11, 2022, 8:15 PM

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rocky lark Im using foreach loop to iterate between messages sent before and send them to t...

Also you are modifying the collection somewhere in the sendMessage method

rocky lark Jul 11, 2022, 8:17 PM

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It works fine on my local system

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this issue occurring only in replit

rocky lark Jul 11, 2022, 8:20 PM

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forest pecan <#165129131770511360>

this is not a minecraft plugin

obtuse gale Jul 11, 2022, 8:21 PM

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#development is for general programming support

forest pecan Jul 11, 2022, 8:21 PM

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Still

obtuse gale Jul 11, 2022, 8:21 PM

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not specific to mc

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this is more of a chill chat to talk about dev stuff

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like flaming kotlin

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nokotlin

rocky lark Jul 11, 2022, 8:21 PM

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ok

urban sleet Jul 11, 2022, 8:21 PM

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kotlin

fervent tinsel Jul 11, 2022, 10:16 PM

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why are u dislike kotlin?

static zealot Jul 11, 2022, 10:16 PM

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Bcz when and there yes

ocean quartz Jul 11, 2022, 10:28 PM

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fervent tinsel why are u dislike kotlin?

Because it's "funny" and trendy to do so

fervent tinsel Jul 11, 2022, 10:39 PM

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🗿

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Next trend will be hate everyone who not using kotlin?

ocean quartz Jul 11, 2022, 10:42 PM

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Nah, that's also a trend withing Kotlin devs

obtuse gale Jul 11, 2022, 10:43 PM

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Exactly

ocean quartz Jul 11, 2022, 10:50 PM

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They are both incredibly annoying

obtuse gale Jul 11, 2022, 11:00 PM

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Yeah Kezz would agree

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@Kezz

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wtf

rotund egret Jul 11, 2022, 11:02 PM

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@kezzzzzzzzz

ocean quartz Jul 11, 2022, 11:28 PM

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Kezz left us wtf

half harness Jul 12, 2022, 12:32 AM

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was kezz in this server?

obtuse gale Jul 12, 2022, 12:37 AM

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probably idk

ocean quartz Jul 12, 2022, 12:42 AM

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They were for some time yeah

dense dew Jul 12, 2022, 1:07 AM

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ocean quartz They are both incredibly annoying

just say you r too stupid to learn better language

half harness Jul 12, 2022, 1:20 AM

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never though of that

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😈

half harness Jul 12, 2022, 2:48 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/dmLKIbQ.png

woahhhhhhhhh
since when was this added?

Imgur

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or is it only for large servers

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but Minecraft doesn't have it

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For now, this feature is an experiment available to a select number of communities. Eventually, Home will be a part of every Community-enabled server.
If your community has Home and you want to leave feedback, you can find a survey in the Home settings context menu!

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Oh

quiet depot Jul 12, 2022, 2:51 AM

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wonder if we have it

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cube probs has some funky way to get it for us

half harness Jul 12, 2022, 2:51 AM

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👀

quiet depot Jul 12, 2022, 2:51 AM

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when tf did we get 13k members

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thought we were at like 10k

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idk if I can check on phone if we have it or not

cinder flare Jul 12, 2022, 2:52 AM

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yeah people saw I was in this server

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so they all joined

ocean quartz Jul 12, 2022, 2:52 AM

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We've had over 10k for a while now

cinder flare Jul 12, 2022, 2:52 AM

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^ cause of me obviously

quiet depot Jul 12, 2022, 2:52 AM

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ur so popular star omg

cinder flare Jul 12, 2022, 2:53 AM

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ik ik ik

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and even with all that popularity, i'm stuck using a single shitty laptop screen when i have three 24" monitors just sitting around waiting to be used

half harness Jul 12, 2022, 2:53 AM

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cinder flare and even with all that popularity, i'm stuck using a single shitty laptop screen...

why not use them

cinder flare Jul 12, 2022, 2:53 AM

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it haunts me night and day, i just want to do work for my company!

half harness Jul 12, 2022, 2:53 AM

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💀

cinder flare Jul 12, 2022, 2:53 AM

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half harness why not use them

don't have a dock, can't

half harness Jul 12, 2022, 2:54 AM

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but

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then what about before

quiet depot Jul 12, 2022, 2:54 AM

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lol

cinder flare Jul 12, 2022, 2:54 AM

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hmm?

quiet depot Jul 12, 2022, 2:54 AM

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get rekt

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ur just bad star

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face it

cinder flare Jul 12, 2022, 2:54 AM

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ik ik ik

quiet depot Jul 12, 2022, 2:54 AM

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nothing todo with a dock

cinder flare Jul 12, 2022, 2:54 AM

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i try so hard

quiet depot Jul 12, 2022, 2:54 AM

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ur just bad

cinder flare Jul 12, 2022, 2:54 AM

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and this is the thanks i get

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dockless

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maidenless

quiet depot Jul 12, 2022, 2:55 AM

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yep

cinder flare Jul 12, 2022, 2:55 AM

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what do I have?

quiet depot Jul 12, 2022, 2:55 AM

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popularity

cinder flare Jul 12, 2022, 2:55 AM

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hmm

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yeah but that's not worth shit

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when all you really want is to have that one person

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😔

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i'm sure you understand pig

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don't you have a special someone?

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maybe she goes by the name PlaceholderAPI?

ruby dew Jul 12, 2022, 3:14 AM

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acoustic radish MMORPG is not an easy genre, it by default sets the content and mechanics comple...

That’s very inspiring to hear!

I should have no problem for programming,but I have little to no trust to my project as the other pro owner said
I’m just too desperate for the results instead of enjoying the development process.Idk maybe because I don’t have friends to play on my server?lol

Also tons of other business to deal with when opening a server like marketing and stuffs

It’s surely hard especially I’m aiming for a server that has super complex game mechanics

obtuse gale Jul 12, 2022, 3:16 AM

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cinder flare what *do* I have?

me

cinder flare Jul 12, 2022, 3:17 AM

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oh shit nice

old wyvern Jul 12, 2022, 6:06 AM

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cinder flare what *do* I have?

Fingers and eyes atleast

ruby dew Jul 12, 2022, 6:37 AM

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hi im new to opening minecraft server
do you guys recommend buying a vps for minecraft server?

rotund egret Jul 12, 2022, 6:38 AM

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!host

ruby dew Jul 12, 2022, 6:45 AM

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!host

cinder flare Jul 12, 2022, 7:30 AM

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old wyvern Fingers and eyes atleast

hey you don't know, I could've dictated that message and had it read aloud to me

acoustic radish Jul 12, 2022, 7:31 AM

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It's also possible that Emily could've helped you

ruby dew Jul 12, 2022, 9:28 AM

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ello guys

sly sonnet Jul 12, 2022, 9:38 AM

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Heyy

obtuse gale Jul 12, 2022, 10:16 AM

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how to add gradient in deluxemenu can anyone help me?

old wyvern Jul 12, 2022, 10:37 AM

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cinder flare hey you don't know, I could've dictated that message and had it read aloud to me

Good point

hexed tartan Jul 12, 2022, 6:48 PM

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click_commands:
- '[console] bx'
- '[console] advancement grant %player_name% minecraft:story/enchant_item<delay=20>'

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[18:47:01] [Server thread/INFO]: ...nt Jimaie minecraft:story/enchant_item<--[HERE]

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need help,I want the second command to run a few seconds after the first

sly sonnet Jul 12, 2022, 7:06 PM

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add space before <delay=20>

hexed tartan Jul 12, 2022, 8:00 PM

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sly sonnet add space before `<delay=20>`

[20:00:04] [Server thread/INFO]: ...nt Jimaie minecraft:story/enchant_item delay=20<--[HERE]

same problem

sly sonnet Jul 12, 2022, 8:01 PM

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Why did you remove < and >

hexed tartan Jul 12, 2022, 8:01 PM

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sly sonnet Why did you remove `<` and `>`

I tried with and without and it doesn't work.

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'[console] advancement grant %player_name% minecraft:story/enchant_item <delay=20>'

static zealot Jul 12, 2022, 8:24 PM

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Guys, I think I broke github :)) https://i.imgur.com/xiBfK8m.png

Imgur

old wyvern Jul 13, 2022, 4:32 AM

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U broke

hexed tartan Jul 13, 2022, 9:34 AM

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'[console] advancement grant %player_name% minecraft:story/enchant_item <delay=20>'

need help don't work

half harness Jul 13, 2022, 5:20 PM

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Found out that gson... has a number limit??????????? (even though it's a long and so it should be able to store long numbers)

😕
Anyone know why? And should I replace it with a BigInteger or a String?

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probably a BigInteger

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RIP 1224 lines of json data 💀

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most of which have an ID linked to it

obtuse gale Jul 13, 2022, 5:24 PM

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hm?

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what am I even supposed to look at?

half harness Jul 13, 2022, 5:25 PM

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will test in like 10 mins

but apparently long isn't stored correctly with gson 🤔

half harness Jul 13, 2022, 5:25 PM

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half harness Found out that gson... has a number limit??????????? (even though it's a `long` ...

if it's too long, the end just has 0

hot hull Jul 13, 2022, 5:26 PM

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:what:

potent nest Jul 13, 2022, 5:27 PM

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Not a gson issue, more like javascript numbers

half harness Jul 13, 2022, 5:27 PM

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it seems diff from js numbers though

will be afk for like 10 mins so I can't test rn, but I'll test when I get back

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🥲

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hmmmm

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i am confused

half harness Jul 13, 2022, 6:43 PM

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im going to go insane

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path.createFileAndDirs()
val text = gson.toJson(get(), MainDataFile::class.java)
path.toFile().writeText(text)
logDebugInfo("\n\n\nSaved: \n$text\n\n\n", print = false)
```It logs the correct info


**but the file has the incorrect info**

❓ ❓

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😖

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😭

obtuse gale Jul 13, 2022, 6:51 PM

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sucks

potent nest Jul 13, 2022, 7:07 PM

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what

half harness Jul 13, 2022, 7:07 PM

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potent nest what

I don't even know 😭

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I'll debug more later but not right now

potent nest Jul 13, 2022, 7:07 PM

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text is a string?

half harness Jul 13, 2022, 7:07 PM

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yes

potent nest Jul 13, 2022, 7:08 PM

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why would that change in any way

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sounds sus

half harness Jul 13, 2022, 7:08 PM

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I don't know

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I'll debug what the file reads

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right after I writeText

sick belfry Jul 14, 2022, 2:38 AM

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open an issue at the github lmao

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and it is weird lmao

obtuse gale Jul 14, 2022, 4:26 AM

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Does anybody know how much of a cut SpigotMC Take for purchases on the site?

tidal chasm Jul 14, 2022, 4:30 AM

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??

obtuse gale Jul 14, 2022, 4:35 AM

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I thought it was a relatively straight forward question

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??

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I'll make it clear

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Unga Bunga! 🪨 Typey man sell plugin on spigot 🪨 .

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Ooga Unga! 🪨 Spigot want take money from typey man 🪨

tidal chasm Jul 14, 2022, 4:41 AM

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Bruh

obtuse gale Jul 14, 2022, 4:41 AM

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🪨 💥 How much money does spigot want? 🥁

tidal chasm Jul 14, 2022, 4:41 AM

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That’s actually sad

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So spigot wants a cut

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Basically

obtuse gale Jul 14, 2022, 4:42 AM

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I'm not sure, I'm asking if and for how much.

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I don't think Spigot takes a cut? At least I've never heard anyone say anything about that before and there's nothing about it publicly available on their site either

tidal chasm Jul 14, 2022, 4:52 AM

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@obtuse gale

obtuse gale Jul 14, 2022, 4:52 AM

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yes hello?

hot hull Jul 14, 2022, 4:56 AM

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They don't take a cute I don't believe

tidal chasm Jul 14, 2022, 4:57 AM

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obtuse gale yes hello?

Are u dev

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??

forest pecan Jul 14, 2022, 5:14 AM

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No she is not

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She is a chef

obtuse gale Jul 14, 2022, 5:15 AM

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tidal chasm Are u dev

sometimes

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why?

obtuse gale Jul 14, 2022, 5:15 AM

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forest pecan She is a chef

I don't own a restaurant lol

forest pecan Jul 14, 2022, 5:15 AM

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hush

tidal chasm Jul 14, 2022, 5:17 AM

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obtuse gale why?

Because I am looking for devs to help me out

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On my mc server

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But if u work for commissions I am sorry

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😭😭😔😔

obtuse gale Jul 14, 2022, 5:18 AM

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#992627658229809162 / #992627660146626601

old wyvern Jul 14, 2022, 5:19 AM

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tidal chasm Because I am looking for devs to help me out

https://tenor.com/view/get-to-work-work-simpsons-smithers-trendizisst-gif-15496843

Tenor

rotund egret Jul 14, 2022, 5:22 AM

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Lul

tidal chasm Jul 14, 2022, 5:26 AM

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Why

rotund egret Jul 14, 2022, 5:28 AM

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People (generally) don't work for free

tidal chasm Jul 14, 2022, 5:44 AM

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Yeah 😭😭

hot hull Jul 14, 2022, 6:02 AM

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Slavery is not okay

ruby dew Jul 14, 2022, 6:34 AM

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tidal chasm Because I am looking for devs to help me out

Can I get op?

tidal chasm Jul 14, 2022, 6:35 AM

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Yes if u are a dev

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And know how to work with mc servers

old wyvern Jul 14, 2022, 6:48 AM

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Can I get an Aventador?

ruby dew Jul 14, 2022, 7:18 AM

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tidal chasm Yes if u are a dev

I’m a plugin researcher and I publish paper on how to use plugins more efficiently and including skript syntax research and stuffs
You can check my publication it’s my thesis for my bachelor degree

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My academic name is Ho lee fuk and I’m an asian

steel heart Jul 14, 2022, 8:20 AM

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Please have the indulgence of cooking me a meal using Skript lol

tidal chasm Jul 14, 2022, 2:29 PM

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ruby dew My academic name is Ho lee fuk and I’m an asian

I won’t discriminate u bro I am Asian also

ruby dew Jul 14, 2022, 2:50 PM

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tidal chasm I won’t discriminate u bro I am Asian also

bro….. try pronouncing the name yourself…

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Lol bro can’t you feel the susness?

tidal chasm Jul 14, 2022, 2:57 PM

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lol

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I know

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But don’t let that discourage u

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Whoever says anything to you say at least I was able to write a thesis

ruby dew Jul 14, 2022, 2:58 PM

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yeah i wont discourage myself im working at a toilet company that deals with shit
and im earning "shit" ton of money
gonna change my name to ho lee shit maybe

tidal chasm Jul 14, 2022, 3:03 PM

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😂

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Ok

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Ur choice

pastel imp Jul 14, 2022, 3:12 PM

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bro...

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did this guy just say skript?

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my eyes are burning

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it's even sadder with the way he sentenced the message so "professionally"

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it was good until I saw "Skript"

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lmao

forest pecan Jul 14, 2022, 3:26 PM

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Skript is awesome I luv skript 😍

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I use it daily and make anticheats out of it

acoustic radish Jul 14, 2022, 3:33 PM

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pastel imp did this guy just say skript?

I don't see a reason to hate man

hot hull Jul 14, 2022, 3:39 PM

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I can see plenty of reasons, but I am aware his message was a joke (so he doesn't get riled up for no reason again)

pastel imp Jul 14, 2022, 3:49 PM

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acoustic radish I don't see a reason to hate man

hate Skript? plenty of reasons ye

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hate him? Why would a man hate another just like that?

cursive jolt Jul 14, 2022, 3:51 PM

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My offer still stands for making a 3.01 reach check in skript for 5k

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Skript truly can be pushed to the limits

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But the people who know how don’t use skript

ruby dew Jul 14, 2022, 4:14 PM

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hot hull I can see plenty of reasons, but I am aware his message was a joke (so he doesn'...

Say the one that gets triggered seeing a troll comment

hot hull Jul 14, 2022, 4:16 PM

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Speechless at this point, absolutely speechless

ruby dew Jul 14, 2022, 4:19 PM

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Losing brain cells at this point, absolutely lack of brain cells

acoustic radish Jul 14, 2022, 4:33 PM

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hot hull I can see plenty of reasons, but I am aware his message was a joke (so he doesn'...

Plenty of reasons?

manic spindle Jul 14, 2022, 4:45 PM

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Was wondering how one could specify which economy for vault to use. Trying to add an option where people can specify it in a config file but im completely lost.

distant sun Jul 14, 2022, 4:46 PM

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I believe that the one with the highest priority on the services manager will be used

prisma wave Jul 14, 2022, 4:46 PM

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Sounds about right

distant sun Jul 14, 2022, 4:46 PM

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you can create a new instance of the economy you want and register it with the highest priority

manic spindle Jul 14, 2022, 4:47 PM

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Ik the one with the highest priority is used. But trying to allow people use like a token economy plugin. which wouldn't take priority

distant sun Jul 14, 2022, 4:47 PM

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or well, not an instance, but an wrapper for it

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I doubt any tokens plugin uses vault for economy

manic spindle Jul 14, 2022, 4:48 PM

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trying to make it so people can specify which economy to use from the /vault-info list

simple tapir Jul 14, 2022, 6:54 PM

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Can somebody help me with something in java? DM ME

old wyvern Jul 14, 2022, 7:09 PM

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or... you could post your issue in #development and someone can help you out

steel heart Jul 14, 2022, 7:53 PM

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forest pecan Skript is awesome I luv skript 😍

Async gpu accelerated anti cheat in Skript 😮‍💨

obtuse gale Jul 14, 2022, 8:00 PM

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SQL GC

forest pecan Jul 14, 2022, 8:08 PM

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PHP Anticheat that injects into your BIOS

dense owl Jul 14, 2022, 8:13 PM

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hello i want to make a way for people to get the discord and youtube playerhead and when they place and right click on the head they get a message in chat. how can i do this in spigot

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yes i am coding my own plugin

old wyvern Jul 14, 2022, 8:14 PM

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forest pecan PHP Anticheat that injects into your BIOS

PHP OS

dense owl Jul 14, 2022, 8:14 PM

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pls i need help

old wyvern Jul 14, 2022, 8:15 PM

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What have you tried till now?

dense owl Jul 14, 2022, 8:15 PM

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alot but if you have some code i can try it

old wyvern Jul 14, 2022, 8:15 PM

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huh?

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have you actually tried to implement what you want?

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Like what are you struggling with exactly?

dense owl Jul 14, 2022, 8:16 PM

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the whole code

old wyvern Jul 14, 2022, 8:16 PM

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🙃

tranquil crane Jul 14, 2022, 8:16 PM

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cz_sus

old wyvern Jul 14, 2022, 8:16 PM

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I'd suggest reading up on some guides in that case?

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or you always have #992627660146626601 / #992627658229809162

dense owl Jul 14, 2022, 8:17 PM

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i am a beginner coder so

old wyvern Jul 14, 2022, 8:17 PM

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Alright, you still gotta try to learn tho

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I assume you are new to Java as well?

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?learn-java

compact perchBOT Jul 14, 2022, 8:17 PM

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FAQ Answer:

Online Courses:
Online courses are also great for learning java. Some websites that offer them are:

Coursera - Free unless you want a certificate
PluralSight - Great courses from what I've seen. Mostly Paid
Udemy - Never used them myself but they seem to all or at least most be paid.
My first ever course was one from Coursera. - I can say it was pretty good at introducing me to the programming world as a whole not just java.

Oracle Docs:
Oracle docs can help a lot at learning and understanding java:

Start with this,
Breeze through this (skipping stuff that doesn't seem relevant like bitwise operators),
Hit this.
They're the first three from this larger thing which you should definitely go through overall. But those three should be enough for slightly better understanding of what is happening here without feeling like a huge time sink.
That one is a small part of this larger site wherein "Essential Java Classes" and "Collections" also have good useful stuff

Other services:
Some other cool services that will help you learn java are:

As you can see there are plenty of good ways to learn as long as you're willing to invest the time. Have fun learning!

oblique heath Jul 14, 2022, 11:05 PM

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obtuse gale SQL GC

what a throwback

obtuse gale Jul 14, 2022, 11:10 PM

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lol

obtuse gale Jul 15, 2022, 12:41 AM

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obtuse gale I don't think Spigot takes a cut? At least I've never heard anyone say anything ...

All good, I wasn't sure

obtuse gale Jul 15, 2022, 12:43 AM

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tidal chasm Yeah 😭😭

lmfao obviously

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Which is why, when you messaged me out of nowhere to ask me for free work, I told you people have bills to pay and shit to buy

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I get that you don't work, but people generally don't work for free unless they A) Undervalue their work OR B) Accurately value their work.

ruby dew Jul 15, 2022, 3:52 AM

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rotund egret Jul 15, 2022, 8:22 AM

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Ok

pastel imp Jul 15, 2022, 8:33 PM

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Uhm is using an api like Holographic Displays for holograms better performance wise than making my own holograms with armorstands?

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 8:57 PM

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its been a while

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ive been doing other languages and such and i wanted to get back into minecraft devoplment

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but with kotlin

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is there a good place i should enter or some kind of recources online?

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@prisma wave have u made the youtube tutorials yet? 😂

obtuse gale Jul 15, 2022, 8:58 PM

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yeah he's on it right now

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 8:59 PM

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yeah man ive got like 1000 episodes ready to go

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just need to upload

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 8:59 PM

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finally its been like a year

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i remember begging for days

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 8:59 PM

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unfortunately that was a joke

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 8:59 PM

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:((

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 8:59 PM

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weary epoch is there a good place i should enter or some kind of recources online?

do u think u could help with this

obtuse gale Jul 15, 2022, 9:01 PM

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yeah he's getting on it right away

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:02 PM

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"playing visual studio code"

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:04 PM

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Playing overwatch actually

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overwatch 2 to be precise

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:04 PM

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let me guess u made it urself

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i just want to learn kotlin ;-;

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:05 PM

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i made what myself?

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:05 PM

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I already spend about 10 hours a day doing C i need to do something that i actually like

obtuse gale Jul 15, 2022, 9:05 PM

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Not specific to MC but the official docs are pretty good

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:05 PM

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weary epoch is there a good place i should enter or some kind of recources online?

https://kotlinlang.org/

Kotlin

Kotlin Programming Language

bright river Jul 15, 2022, 9:05 PM

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is it possible to use deluxemenus on a 1.8 server?

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:05 PM

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or simply trial and error until you find something that works

obtuse gale Jul 15, 2022, 9:06 PM

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Sir, this is #dev-general

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:06 PM

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prisma wave https://kotlinlang.org/

does plugin makers have documentation for specifically kotlin or just java

bright river Jul 15, 2022, 9:06 PM

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obtuse gale Sir, this is <#695431668944732270>

well do u know the answer?

obtuse gale Jul 15, 2022, 9:06 PM

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I don't, cuz we don't talk about deluxemenus here

bright river Jul 15, 2022, 9:06 PM

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alr alr

distant sun Jul 15, 2022, 9:06 PM

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weary epoch does plugin makers have documentation for specifically kotlin or just java

kotlin for minecraft plugin is not so different from java

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:06 PM

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weary epoch does plugin makers have documentation for specifically kotlin or just java

it should not matter

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^

obtuse gale Jul 15, 2022, 9:06 PM

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#general-plugins tho

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:07 PM

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bright river well do u know the answer?

easiest solution is to just code the java language from scratch and work from there

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:07 PM

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you'll generally interact with the libraries in the exact same way

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:07 PM

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prisma wave it should not matter

KK tysm

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im getting flashbacks to how helpful u are

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:07 PM

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im incredibly helpful yes

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:08 PM

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now i remember why i wanted youtube tutorials so bad

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:08 PM

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i do actually intend to try do them this summer

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but we'll see

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:08 PM

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its already summer

obtuse gale Jul 15, 2022, 9:09 PM

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"this summer"

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:09 PM

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im doing contracting work for summer ill give u like 80% of my check to make youtube videos

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:09 PM

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lmao

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how much is that?

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:09 PM

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like 12$ they dont pay so well

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:09 PM

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💀

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:10 PM

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nah i make 15-20 n hour

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its actually amazing

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and all i have to do is get punched in the face by some bipolar kid that works with me

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:10 PM

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🤨

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:10 PM

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my jaw is still sore

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😳

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not like that

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:11 PM

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obtuse gale Jul 15, 2022, 9:11 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/dwayne-rock-johnson-eyebrow-gif-21770780

Tenor

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:25 PM

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wtf is kotlin

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x: Int
instead of int x

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why need the colon
why does it need to be capitalized

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its the best language in the world compared to java but it still makes my heart cry

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no semicolons though so actually kind of nice

distant sun Jul 15, 2022, 9:26 PM

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x: Int is the same as int x

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:26 PM

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yes i got that

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but its still weird

distant sun Jul 15, 2022, 9:26 PM

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and that's thee equivalent of java's Integer, because kotlin doesn't have primitives

sick belfry Jul 15, 2022, 9:28 PM

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ew

onyx loom Jul 15, 2022, 9:31 PM

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declaring the type isnt even necessary

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:31 PM

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what about functions

distant sun Jul 15, 2022, 9:31 PM

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for variables/fields is not always necessary

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:31 PM

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weary epoch 1. why need the colon 2. why does it need to be capitalized

because types are optional, i.e val x: Int = 3 == val x = 3 and so postfix notation means that it's easier to change from implicit to explitiy
because it's not a primitive type

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:32 PM

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prisma wave 1. because types are optional, i.e `val x: Int = 3` == `val x = 3` and so postfi...

why does python do it but not kotlin

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:32 PM

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what

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what does python do

distant sun Jul 15, 2022, 9:33 PM

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probably suck

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:33 PM

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before you say it

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kotlin is not dynamically typed

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:33 PM

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x = int(value)

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:33 PM

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it has type inference

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:34 PM

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weary epoch ``` x = int(value)```

what does that have to do with anything i said?

distant sun Jul 15, 2022, 9:34 PM

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I hope you know that int() is Integer.parseInt

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:34 PM

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^

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:34 PM

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i just realized that

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i remembered python as being int value\

dense dew Jul 15, 2022, 9:34 PM

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haskell better tho

obtuse gale Jul 15, 2022, 9:34 PM

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TRUE

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:34 PM

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why cant everyone just be c++ with python syntax ;-; never a perfect language

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:35 PM

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what would that even look like

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:35 PM

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int x = value```

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where u can choose between the 2 or something

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:36 PM

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that is literally java 10+

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:36 PM

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yeah but java has painful syntax

distant sun Jul 15, 2022, 9:36 PM

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var and val means mutable and immutable btw

dense dew Jul 15, 2022, 9:36 PM

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try haskell

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better syntax

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:36 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

Tenor

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:36 PM

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TRUE

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:36 PM

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classes

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:36 PM

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imagine having classes

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:36 PM

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weary epoch https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

writing a class in java

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:36 PM

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or objects

obtuse gale Jul 15, 2022, 9:36 PM

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classes 🤮

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types 😌

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:36 PM

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TRUE

dense dew Jul 15, 2022, 9:37 PM

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or i can suggest memory safe blazinglx fast language!

obtuse gale Jul 15, 2022, 9:37 PM

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yes

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haskell

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:37 PM

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^^

dense dew Jul 15, 2022, 9:37 PM

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yes

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:37 PM

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prisma wave or objects

i like

dense dew Jul 15, 2022, 9:37 PM

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thats what i mean

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:37 PM

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dense dew or i can suggest memory safe blazinglx fast language!

what is haskel used for

dense dew Jul 15, 2022, 9:37 PM

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all

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:37 PM

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soy object fan vs chad algebraic data type enjoyer

dense dew Jul 15, 2022, 9:37 PM

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haskell is universal

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best lang

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:37 PM

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prisma wave soy object fan vs chad algebraic data type enjoyer

no one making that meme looks like a chad

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:38 PM

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what

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:38 PM

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no one that can understand it looks like a chad i meant to say

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:39 PM

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wdym we all do

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:39 PM

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just me then... ok

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I had a theory and idk if its right but all the actual good java programmers get a real jobs that pay really well so all the top tier devs on minecraft servers are low level real world programmers right? it kind of makes sense but idk what the world is

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:41 PM

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minecraft can be a well paying job

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 9:41 PM

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not more than like 100k a year

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and mid level programmers can make that

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maybe only at hypixel

dense dew Jul 15, 2022, 9:42 PM

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brw https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2022/#technology-top-paying-technologies if you want to check salaries

Stack Overflow

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obtuse gale Jul 15, 2022, 9:45 PM

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Look at all those functional languages 😌

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 9:46 PM

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functional on top

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pathetic kotlin and java down where they belong

sick belfry Jul 15, 2022, 10:10 PM

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write your own language

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in assembly

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 10:10 PM

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how do u think assembly was written

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https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

Tenor

sick belfry Jul 15, 2022, 10:12 PM

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then write it in c

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or c++

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 10:13 PM

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people actually had to code in binary at one point

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literal pain

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https://tenor.com/view/slander-meme-memes-funny-whiteboard-gif-22147047

Tenor

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 10:14 PM

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weary epoch https://tenor.com/view/slander-meme-memes-funny-whiteboard-gif-22147047

Assembly devs explaining how youre code is slow and too high level

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Note: you are a C dev

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@prisma wave u know kotlin so why can java be so easily converted to kotlin but converting kotlin to java is harder

distant sun Jul 15, 2022, 10:30 PM

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any idea if chart.js is capable of doing something like this?

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 10:31 PM

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weary epoch <@266973575225933824> u know kotlin so why can java be so easily converted to ko...

kotlin is somewhat more abstract than java and some features would be impossible to express in a single java file

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 10:36 PM

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to do a for loop in kotlin it says for (i in 1..5){} to do it 5 times while in C its for (int i; i < 5; i++){} is there a way to do something like this in kotlin or its strict syntax

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 10:37 PM

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why would you want to do it c style way lmao

obtuse gale Jul 15, 2022, 10:38 PM

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use java for that matter

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 10:38 PM

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^

weary epoch Jul 15, 2022, 10:46 PM

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prisma wave why would you want to do it c style way lmao

I just mean the i> 5 for conditional part

prisma wave Jul 15, 2022, 10:56 PM

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But why

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The kotlin version does the same thing

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And you can just add a condition inside the loop if you really need

rotund egret Jul 15, 2022, 11:07 PM

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You can still do that In kt

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Until, downTo, and , .. are all just syntax sugar

distant sun Jul 15, 2022, 11:30 PM

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https://youtu.be/AaZ_RSt0KP8 worth watching tbh, I'm 4 minutes in and is very interesting
Edit: totally dope

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sick belfry Jul 15, 2022, 11:50 PM

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extremely cool

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watched it like 1 month ago

last nacelle Jul 16, 2022, 4:00 AM

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When using hashmaps, do I have to sent all of them to null onDisable? I heard somewhere its good to do that to prevent leaks. They are from another class and I would have to access them with new since I dont have them static, but this doesn't make sense to me since it will have plugins already disabled when calling that. Any advice?

sweet cipher Jul 16, 2022, 4:13 AM

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You should not do that, also you wouldn't be able to access them by using new, that would create a new instance

hot heron Jul 16, 2022, 4:25 AM

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If they aren't static, they will be handled by the gc

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Static will as well, but there are more nuances when it comes to that

last nacelle Jul 16, 2022, 4:53 AM

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Gotcha, thank you

prisma wave Jul 16, 2022, 9:59 AM

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If they're not static it's almost certainly fine

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The only thing you should be careful about is hard references to things like Players and Worlds, since that might prevent them from being unloaded and cause an actual memory leak / problem

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Oh this was 6 hours ago

cobalt marlin Jul 16, 2022, 1:18 PM

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last nacelle When using hashmaps, do I have to sent all of them to null onDisable? I heard so...

just set the hashmap itself into null

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if you are worried about leaks etc

pastel imp Jul 16, 2022, 3:52 PM

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Uhm is using an api like Holographic Displays for holograms better performance wise than making my own holograms with armorstands?

inner umbra Jul 16, 2022, 3:53 PM

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pastel imp Uhm is using an api like Holographic Displays for holograms better performance w...

Well... depends

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You might not have as many features to loop through.

pastel imp Jul 16, 2022, 3:53 PM

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wdym

inner umbra Jul 16, 2022, 3:55 PM

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Well for the features, you might not have everything that HD does. So you wouldn't have all the bloat to loop through like it does.
Then also you might be using better API calls if you code it in later versions of MC then HD is coded for.

pastel imp Jul 16, 2022, 3:56 PM

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so what would be the best option in your opinion?

inner umbra Jul 16, 2022, 3:56 PM

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My opinion... Always code your own. You won't have to worry about someoneelses code.

prisma wave Jul 16, 2022, 4:17 PM

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Simple holograms are pretty trivial so if you don't need any special features yeah just do it yourself

cobalt marlin Jul 16, 2022, 5:43 PM

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pastel imp Uhm is using an api like Holographic Displays for holograms better performance w...

keep in mind though, unless you go into packets they will be ticked by the server

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i remember someone saying decentholograms is okay but i have never checked their source code

hot hull Jul 16, 2022, 5:50 PM

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Honestly using packets ain't all that difficult, consider all the tutorials for exactly this

last nacelle Jul 16, 2022, 5:54 PM

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What do you guys use for hosting? I’ve used MelonCube before, but I feel there might be something better for the money 2022. Advice?