dev-general

[tame bane]

I am getting huge lag spikes on my server

[rotund egret]

Rather small data sample, but during the 5 minutes or so during the climb it looks like a chunk was updating

[tame bane]

So what can I do?

[rotund egret]

I'd cry tbh

[tame bane]

nothing i can do?

[rotund egret]

There's probably something you could do, but hell if I know what it is

[tame bane]

anyone that could help me?

@rotund egret

[rotund egret]

Yeah you really don't need to keep pinging me

[tame bane]

who could i contact?

or like i have no clue what do it wont go away

@rotund egret?

[inner umbra]

@tame bane I wouldn't recommend help from him.
Also #minecraft would be the better channel for your query. And have patience.

[tame bane]

y?

[dawn island]

As mentioned by Zodd in a previous message: #dev-general message This channel is mainly for developer related topics, while #minecraft is a more general channel for minecraft related content.

[tranquil crane]

try installing the spark plugin and run the profiler, it can get a lot more detailed information about what's potentially causing lag

[obtuse gale]

spot the transphobe

[prisma wave]

it's you

I found you

https://youtube.com/shorts/ilyZhLdUOGY?feature=share

[obtuse gale]

oh that is typical

[quaint isle]

I worked a job for 2 years that had the title "Software Developer". About a year ago I changed position at the same company to "Full Stack Software Developer".

Would it look better on a resume to put Jr. Software Developer for my first job as opposed to Software Developer to show that I kinda got promoted?

[pastel imp]

Isnt there a difference between full stack and non full stack?

Lol

[wintry plinth]

Yeah, full stack is front and backend

I’d prob put both on resume, have a title for the company, then smaller points for the sub roles

Acme Ltd

• Jr Software Developer (August 21 - November 19)

In my role I did X Y and Z.

• Full-Stack Software Developer (November 19 - Blah)

I was promoted to this, did X Y Z

[tacit cave]

Hey i want to ask

will the i5-12600k runs minecraft server well?

[potent nest]

sure

will depend on what you actually do obviously

[tacit cave]

well i'm gonna run for like 6-8 servers

it has 16 threads

but im not sure with the E-cores

they have a lower clock speed 🤷‍♂️

[lucid latch]

Anyone have resources for working with the python library quarry?

[midnight vault]

Im looking for website devs dm me

[old wyvern]

#970433902772617246

[wintry plinth]

👋

[midnight vault]

?

dm me

[sturdy zinc]

need help on how to get updated code to the original developer github? My github never seems to work using github desktop

@tacit caveI run mine on a i5 4th gen OS is Debian, 32GB ram

[tacit cave]

how many servers?

[sturdy zinc]

7

[tacit cave]

but it only have 4 cores / 4 threads?

🤔

which version are you using?

[sturdy zinc]

linux is the key, SSD also helps

[tacit cave]

what version?

[sturdy zinc]

Debian is the distro I run

[forest pecan]

Can somebody help me with something
Afbeelding
I want this in my Tablist.
----[--
dont know how to make it.

I cant send a image XD

i want this together -----[--

Looking like a sword

[quaint isle]

bold of u to assume they want to pay 😏

[quaint isle]

I missed your comment earlier, thanks for the input! 🙂

[old wyvern]

@half harness skim

[waxen marsh]

okay so my 1.16.2 deluxechat config is not working on my 1.16.5 server

could someone help me with this maybe

[static zealot]

#spigot-linking then move to #deluxechat

[waxen marsh]

sirry looked over it

[half harness]

😭 Dkim = Good

[long dagger]

how can I remove this selection box in a gui?

https://imgur.com/a/mphuE7Q

[eternal compass]

Lies

[brittle leaf]

thats not a vanilla feature afaik

[long dagger]

yeah it is

when you select a item slot it shows a white transparent box around the slot

[vivid juniper]

What is a good starting tutorial for MC plugin coding?

[sick belfry]

first

?learn-java

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

Online Courses:
Online courses are also great for learning java. Some websites that offer them are:

• Coursera - Free unless you want a certificate
• PluralSight - Great courses from what I've seen. Mostly Paid
• Udemy - Never used them myself but they seem to all or at least most be paid.
  My first ever course was one from Coursera. - I can say it was pretty good at introducing me to the programming world as a whole not just java.

Oracle Docs:
Oracle docs can help a lot at learning and understanding java:

• Start with this,
• Breeze through this (skipping stuff that doesn't seem relevant like bitwise operators),
• Hit this.
  They're the first three from this larger thing which you should definitely go through overall. But those three should be enough for slightly better understanding of what is happening here without feeling like a huge time sink.
  That one is a small part of this larger site wherein "Essential Java Classes" and "Collections" also have good useful stuff

Other services:
Some other cool services that will help you learn java are:

• SoloLearn
• W3Schools
• JetBrains Academy

As you can see there are plenty of good ways to learn as long as you're willing to invest the time. Have fun learning!

Requested by: ProfessorStarL0st • learn-java

[sick belfry]

then check the spigot.org/plugin-idk-something-here guides

they should help ya

and also some youtube videos too

also the javadocs

[forest pecan]

i havent talked in here for a while 😔

[distant sun]

Good thing

[brittle leaf]

since when?

oh you mean the hover over itemstack overlay, i thought that you were on about the check mark box showing up

[static zealot]

he's not talking about the checkmark I Don't think so. I think he's talking about he white overlay

[brittle leaf]

when you cut down the image to a point where context is lost its difficult to tell what you mean

[static zealot]

yeah. but I'm fairly certain you can't remove that with plugins or resource packs

[brittle leaf]

you would need a mod or something

ohhh i see how its done, you have to create a custom font character and put that in the inventory title and that font character has to be the inventory fully made, not individual slot retexturing

or atleast thats what google says

the actual highlighting is done clientside so unless you get people to install a mod removing it then your kinda stuck for retexturing specific itemstacks in an inventory but using a custom texture that overlays the inventory it seems to be at a higher priority then the hover overlay so its not visible .

[long dagger]

Ohhh, that makes sense, so instead of texturing the actual gui, you use a Unicode image to replace it with a custom onw

I know how to do that

Thank you!

[brittle leaf]

yep

you dont texture buttons, you just use a single image that overlays the inventory

[long dagger]

Yeah, and then I can leave some slots transparent for things like the input bar in a anvil

[static zealot]

haha guys. don't forget to break; or return; from a switch. you might end up spending 1 hour trying to figure out why the fuck a message is sent 3 times and sometimes even to everyone and then go insane and start hitting the wall with your head

man I love life

[brittle leaf]

switch statements are fun

[plain dragon]

please just use the enhanced switch

break; suuuucks

[pastel imp]

Lambda is pog

[static zealot]

if it were my choice I would've used when instead. but its not my project lol xD. I'm slowly starting to change stuff but very very slowly

also when was that added? bcz java 11

[plain dragon]

16 iirc

why 11 sadge

nvm 13

[potent nest]

That has nothing to do with lambdas

[obtuse gale]

wdym?

-> = lambda

always in the history of forever

[potent nest]

Oh okay

[pastel imp]

Bruh

If ya wanna say something, at least be right xd

But ye -> is lambda

[prisma wave]

yes but not in the context of switch expressions lol

[obtuse gale]

-> is lambda except when it isn't lmao

[static zealot]

haha. suck it

[tranquil crane]

lambda lambda = new lambda(λ -> {});

[static zealot]

half life?

[pastel imp]

Sus

[tranquil crane]

oh hang on I got it

[pastel imp]

Confusion

[prisma wave]

λx.x+1 > x -> x+1

[obtuse gale]

it's for lambdas when it's for lambdas, it isn't when it isn't

i.e. the topic in question: switch expressions

[pastel imp]

Oh okay ye, understood

Sorry then

[distant sun]

does it consider the lambda symbol a valid naming? 🤣

[prisma wave]

yes

And a few others

Pretty sure π is a valid identifier name

[potent nest]

yeah

not that I ever used greek letters in my code 😶

[prisma wave]

you should see Julia

you're actively encouraged to use symbols in names

Like / has a different meaning to ÷

[obtuse gale]

/ as in this ratio

[plain dragon]

if lambda is ofc pi is lmao

[sly sonnet]

Any python users out here?

[hot hull]

Get out

[dawn island]

back in the day I used to do it, is there something you need.

[oblique heath]

i use python sometimes

[safe hinge]

i need a cheap dev for 2 addons for bw1058:
the first ranked bedwars (not only a rank, but a really system of play based of elo and division. Send player in different game with same elo/division. For Bungee mode)
the second is different multiplier of xp for different rank, live 2x, 3x etc..

sorry for my bad english and for price we can tell in dm :D

[static zealot]

#970433902772617246

[safe hinge]

uh sorry

thanks

[tranquil crane]

ratio as in L+

[foggy pond]

Is this a correct representation of depth first search in a tree?

[static zealot]

I mean the tree was already represented in the correct order. just started from 1 instead of 0

but yeah

[foggy pond]

oh god you are right 😂

[oblique heath]

lol

[static zealot]

lol lol?

or lol lol lol?

[oblique heath]

https://tenor.com/view/kissing-league-league-of-legends-deku-gif-25637810

[static zealot]

jesus. you're killing him

stop!!!

[ocean quartz]

That's so cursed

[oblique heath]

suffer

[brazen ether]

quick question: how do i check if a player is on the ground

i can't just check if the block below is ground because what if the player is halfway up

or what if the player isn't standing on a full block

i'm in 1.8.9 btw

[brittle leaf]

doesnt player.isOnGround() exist?>

[brazen ether]

i read that that's deprecated

maybe that's only in later versions though? ill check

yea it's deprecated

[brittle leaf]

try entity.isOnGround?

unless thats the same

[brazen ether]

it doesn't seem to be

i read somewhere though that it still runs the same function, might be wrong though

i'll use entity.isOnGround for now but if anyone has a better method plz say

[brittle leaf]

i would say get the player's location, get the block version of the coordinates, so player.getBlockX(), getBlockY(), etc and get the block at that coordinate and the block just below it, check if both blocks are air or not.

or check if the location's Y coordinate is exactly .5 of something

if its exactly .5 then its probably a slab

im on the lines of it being true

[obtuse gale]

Just use Player#isOnGround

It works fine

Thing is "being on ground" is controlled by the client and it may be spoofed

Chanced are if that is spoofed, many other things about the position will and you won't be able to tell the difference

And even then what are the odds it will be

And you definitely don't want to try and check it manually, taking into account the player can be on the very very very edge of a block and still be on ground, considering the many different heights (inside a hopper, snow layers, anvils, beds, chests, yada yada ...)

they all have different places to be on and still be "on ground"

[brittle leaf]

theres alot of shit that player.isonground probably already checks

wait, couldnt you just check a player's Y velocity and if its 0 or not

[cursive jolt]

use an anticheat if you really care about isOnGround being correct

good ones will correct it. Alternatively, if you want to just be your own anticheat, do:

boolean trueGround = player.isOnGround && (player.y % (1 / 64) < 0.001 || player.isNotNear(boat or shulker));

[brittle leaf]

i dont think its cause they think isOnGround is the wrong value, it think its cus the player version of the method is deprecated

[brazen ether]

alrighty thanks

[brittle leaf]

which is what they are worried about

i think

[cursive jolt]

most cheats will not follow (1 / 64) rule, only paid and some 1.8 ghost clients follow it

and verus disablers

[obtuse gale]

it's deprecated in like every version

it will work fine

[lavish notch]

I'm loosing my mind with this SQL stuff;

TABLE CREATION QUERY

CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS SystemButtons (ID VARCHAR(255), guildId VARCHAR(255), channelId VARCHAR(255), messageId VARCHAR(255), PRIMARY KEY (ID));

INSERT INTO ... ON DUPLICATE REPLACE QUERY

INSERT INTO SystemButtons (ID, guildId, channelId, messageId) VALUES ("Link", "${message.guild.id}", "${message.channel.id}", "${msg.id}") ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE ID = "Link";

It inserts the value initially just fine- but when it comes to UPDATE DUPLICATE, it just does nothing. Doesn't add a new row, or update existing ones.

*There are no errors generated when the INSERT INTO... statement is ran.

[sweet cipher]

Do you mean ON DUPLICATE KEY maybe?

[lavish notch]

wdym?

barry smh

[sweet cipher]

insert into ... on duplicate replace query -> insert into ... on duplicate key replace query?

Maybe

[lavish notch]

query?

[sweet cipher]

I just wrote what you did

[lavish notch]

should be possible with just id

[sweet cipher]

But I added key

You are trying to update when a duplicate key exists right?

[lavish notch]

it was already there

[sweet cipher]

Oh I thought it wasn't because of INSERT INTO ... ON DUPLICATE REPLACE QUERY

My bad

[lavish notch]

lol

[lavish notch]

I think I see the issue haha.

Yup- I was replacing the ID and not the values xD

[sweet cipher]

Oh lol, glad you figured it out

Writing SQL always frustrates me

[lavish notch]

i think it's just a case of it's 3am, so nothing makes sense.

[sick belfry]

why would you use SQL

just be a good programmer and make your own database in C

then make a Java wrapper and a Rust wrapper

[distant sun]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/ut4jcv/give_it_a_try/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[ocean quartz]

Me yesterday

[limber osprey]

Sigma grind rule

[sly sonnet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/utz6mq/java_rocks/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[static zealot]

not funny?

[sly sonnet]

didn't

[static zealot]

laugh

haha

gottem

laughed more at the comments. here's a good pickup line that I'll definitely 100% no lie for sure going to get to use https://i.imgur.com/tDIFUeG.png

[dense dew]

😔

[static zealot]

I'm sorry to hear that

[stark siren]

Hello can I ask some help regarding my discord account?

[inner umbra]

?not-discord

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

Looking for discord support?
HelpChat is a Minecraft plugin and development support server and is not affiliated with discord in any way.
If you require support from discord, we recommend you to visit their official support website at https://support.discord.com
On this website, you can read their FAQs, or open a support ticket if necessary.

Requested by: Yapperyapps • not-discord

[burnt mica]

e.getPlayer().getWorld().getFullTime() / 24000 %= 7, boolean

[obtuse gale]

yes

[void mica]

[brazen ether]

hey so i'm trying to do some scoreboard stuff, and setting the scoreboard works fine:```java
ScoreboardManager manager = Bukkit.getScoreboardManager();
Scoreboard scoreboard = manager.getNewScoreboard();

Objective objective = scoreboard.registerNewObjective("main_scoreboard", "dummy");
objective.setDisplaySlot(DisplaySlot.SIDEBAR);
Score score = objective.getScore("test string");
score.setScore(1)

but when i try to change it with this code: ```java
Score otherscore = objective.getScore("not test string");
score.setScore(1);

it just adds "not test string", instead of replacing "test string"

this is in 1.8.9 btw

[sly sonnet]

use fastboard + 1.18

[brazen ether]

you're telling me to switch versions lmao? have you thought that maybe i'm using 1.8 for a reason?

i'm trying to do something very simple, i did this in a 1.16.5 project and it worked fine there but i'm not sure what's wrong here, so i'm just asking for help

[prisma wave]

why would you expect it to replace "test string"? that's how scoreboards work, they add an entry / score if there isn't one already

[brazen ether]

it worked in my 1.16.5 project, tho i might be missing something

[prisma wave]

if you want to replace "test string" then use getScore("test string") lol

[brazen ether]

wdym

[prisma wave]

Score otherscore = objective.getScore("not test string");
Score otherscore = objective.getScore("test string");

[brazen ether]

could you explain how this actually replaces the string

because from what i understand, you're just getting the score here

not setting anything

[static zealot]

bm, if you look in the code he uses setScore (the second time) still on score and not otherScore.

unless that's not how their code looks in reality

[prisma wave]

well that's even weirder lol

[brazen ether]

give me a sec

you're probably right

[prisma wave]

what's the point of getting otherscore if you never use it

[brazen ether]

give me a sec

[obtuse gale]

multiple score holders can have the same score value

it's not like only one can "reserve" a value

i.e. it's not a Map<Integer, ScoreHolder> or however you wanna picture it

if you want to remove one entry, you need to know the name of the entry to remove

[cinder flare]

not in a bimap 😉

i used a bimap the other day, felt really cool

[obtuse gale]

yeah but Minecraft score objectives are not yours to control in that way

[half harness]

Anyone know what the purpose of the shade button in linux?
Since all it does is minimize the window... but keeping the title bar 🤔

specifically using XFCE

[quiet depot]

which button

[quiet depot]

was it easier to look up an image than screenshot one yourself

also plug to sublime

[half harness]

I'm on windows atm

🥲

was looking up the shade button

but could only find results on how to enable or disable it

[half harness]

Sublime Text ftw 😌

[ionic talon]

This made me laugh out loud

[static zealot]

hi cat

[half harness]

hi blitz

do you like my pfp

:D

[static zealot]

no

[half harness]

D:

btw blitz

quick question

what is your pfp 🥴

[static zealot]

I love it.

[static zealot]

long story

[quiet depot]

kinda looks like a fucked up java mascot

[half harness]

😮 🥰

[ionic talon]

I love cat

[prisma wave]

HI DKIM

HELLO

HI

[half harness]

HI BM

HII

HOLa

[prisma wave]

HI

BONJOUR

[half harness]

HOW R U DOING

[static zealot]

here's the long story:

Represents the condition of the man of genius imprisoned in thoughts about the immortality of love and the mortality of the body influenced by Schopenhauerian philosophy focusing on the loneliness and opposition of the superficiality of contemporary society

[half harness]

ah very nice

[static zealot]

I definitely wrote that and I know what it all means

[quiet depot]

written by someone who has never loved clearly (or even observed love?), because in what universe is love immortal

[half harness]

yep yep definitely
and I definitely know what it means too

😃

[half harness]

|| btw just a tiny bump :) ||

[quiet depot]

it's equivalent to double clicking on the title bar of a window dkim

to make it max size

[static zealot]

there's probably one universe in the multiverse where that is true

[quiet depot]

ok

which one

huh

[half harness]

on linux or windows

[static zealot]

well idk. I haven't travelled the multiverse yet.

I'm just assuming

[quiet depot]

linux has many different desktop environments so that's entirely dependent on which in question

[static zealot]

considering there's infinite universes

[half harness]

xfce

[quiet depot]

but windows has the feature I'm referring to

[half harness]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

oh

here ill send a screenshot

[quiet depot]

why

[half harness]

it keeps the title bar but hides everything else

[static zealot]

send feet pics

[half harness]

windows doesn't have that afaik

[static zealot]

windows has double clicking on the bar.

what do you mean?

[quiet depot]

if you knew what it did

then why the flippity flippet did you ask

[half harness]

i wanted to know what it was used for

like a usecase

since for me it seems useless D:

[static zealot]

because he was filppity flipping curious

[prisma wave]

absolutely splendid

[quiet depot]

perhaps some people like a stack of windows on their monitor

[prisma wave]

how are u dkim19375

[half harness]

That's VERY nice

[static zealot]

then disable it.

[quiet depot]

mad man doesn't even have a minimize

nvm

i'ms tupid

[half harness]

I am having a great time, getting help from HelpChat 🤩

[quiet depot]

ignore me

[half harness]

Nooo we can't hide it

[static zealot]

no piggy.

[quiet depot]

maximize

i meant

[static zealot]

I will not be ignoring you

[quiet depot]

ok

[half harness]

Hi Piggy

[static zealot]

why not?

[half harness]

because then I won't know what it will be used for 😭

[static zealot]

but yes. I never use it. I just double click if I want to maximize

[half harness]

wdym

like

[static zealot]

you literally said above what its used for?

[half harness]

no i mean

[static zealot]

its a maximizier or something like that

[half harness]

maximizer?

[static zealot]

well you said it makes the window full screen with the bar still showing. that's maximizing a window

[prisma wave]

they dont call it the helping chat for nothing!

[half harness]

nononono

[ionic talon]

It's pointless

[half harness]

like imagine this picture

but then there's this at the top

[quiet depot]

ye

as I said before

[static zealot]

right

[half harness]

but that's not maximizing

[quiet depot]

I imagine some people must like having a cd-stack of windows at the top of their monitor

[half harness]

but you can only have 1 of those

and if you have another window, the "shaded" window overrides it

so for ex u can have a title bar at the top even though you have like chrome open

[quiet depot]

yes

[static zealot]

shade - Roll up the window (only display the title bar).

that's what it is used for

ez

[half harness]

yes but I don't know when I would ever use it

since you can't stack the title bars either (only 1 is every displayed)

[static zealot]

when you want 1 to show over the others. for easy access or something I guess?

[half harness]

Hm

[ionic talon]

Hie would that be easy aces I'd u can just see it at the bottomn

How*

Access*

If*

Bottom*

[half harness]

10/10 spelling

[inner umbra]

Could just edit...

[static zealot]

you don't have to drag the mouse all the way to the bottom I guess. idk

[ionic talon]

Nah

[quiet depot]

perhaps the bottom of your screen is obscured by an object and existential woes prevent you from moving it

[static zealot]

is also a good example. I have a "Smart" dock, that hides itself when I'm in other apps

[ionic talon]

So basically u have stuff at the top rather than the bottom?

[static zealot]

not necessarily at the top. anywhere on the screen I guess

[quiet depot]

i prefer mine in the middle

[static zealot]

it is an option

if the app you shade is not fullscreen, the bar will stay where it is

[inner umbra]

What is the normal encryption used when passing passwords to a login server? MD5 or Sha256 (or other)

[half harness]

Isn't md5 insecure?

[ionic talon]

I love cat

[quiet depot]

yes

[half harness]

Oh

smh

[quiet depot]

are you sure

[static zealot]

pretty sure sha256 is started to be replaced? idk. I haven't watched security related stuff in a bit

[ionic talon]

Pig mid idk 🥱

[inner umbra]

Ok so whats the best encryption option? (currently)

[ionic talon]

Jk all loves

[inner umbra]

Or should I just create my own algorithm?

[quiet depot]

no

don't do that

[half harness]

wait

sha256 is not even encryption

I don't think

🥲

[static zealot]

its a hashing algorithm. its supposed to go 1 way only

[quiet depot]

yapps I'm not sure

not a security guy

[wintry plinth]

SHA256 is nice tbf

[quiet depot]

and this isn't a very easy question to google because there'll be a thousand different people telling you a thousand different things

[static zealot]

but that's how you want to store passwords as well
what you want to do is when someone (at least that's what I Remember)
enters password -> password is hashed -> hashed password is passed to server -> hashed password is checked against the stored hashed password

[inner umbra]

Yeah but alot of known hashers have decrypters already. Might be beneficial to make my own. Would take longer if at all for users to come up with decrypters.

[wintry plinth]

Add a salt on the end and 🪄

[quiet depot]

you kind of have to learn the whole shebang to find the answer

[wintry plinth]

Why would you make your own?

[ionic talon]

Diy queen

[inner umbra]

Kinda just answered that.

[wintry plinth]

Just add a salt to the end and you’ll have a unique string, that “known hashers” won’t have

[half harness]

if it was hashed in the client, wouldn't hackers just be able to send a network request with hashed passwords if there was a database leak?

[quiet depot]

yapps, these are tested algorithms made by some of the smartest people in the world

[half harness]

whereas if it's hashed in the server, then they can't do anything with hashed passwords

[quiet depot]

you are neither a security expert or one of the smartest people on the world

please do not compromise the security of others for your ego, or whatever

[static zealot]

that makes sense. idk how it works. I guess you just make sure you send the password over https

[inner umbra]

I'm not currently. But neither were those people when they started out.

[static zealot]

I used to watch tons of videos about security. but like. I have bad memory

[static zealot]

but they didn't make those algorithms when they started out?

[half harness]

or maybe it's hashed in the client but salted in the server

🤷

idk

[quiet depot]

and their earlier projects most certainly weren't used by the entire world

[static zealot]

and they probably were math geniuses

[inner umbra]

Exactly... They made their own 😉

[static zealot]

when they started out

[prisma wave]

who are "these people"?

[quiet depot]

yapps, you can make your own algorithm

you just cannot under any circumstance ever use it in a real project

[half harness]

yes but we're not using those first algorithms to this day

[wintry plinth]

Yapps, sigh, use something that works and is tough rather than just making your own lol

[prisma wave]

u cannot seriously be considering this

[wintry plinth]

Security is one of those things you can’t afford to mess up

[prisma wave]

^

there is absolutely 0 benefit to making your own

[wintry plinth]

And 100s of downsides 😂

[prisma wave]

^

[inner umbra]

People that have made hashing alg

[inner umbra]

I can xD

[half harness]

hashing isn't encryption btw

[inner umbra]

My own would be fun to make and a challenge

[quiet depot]

and what happens when your algorithm inevitably gets reverse engineered, because it will, because you don't know what you're doing

[static zealot]

I'm going to make sure not to use your services. like ever.

[quiet depot]

think about the ethical, legal consequences of that

[inner umbra]

Then you remake it 😉

[quiet depot]

no

you'll be in prison

[inner umbra]

Or make it better

[half harness]

💀

[static zealot]

lol

[inner umbra]

Yeah ok xD

[wintry plinth]

Can’t believe we are having a convo about this, someone wanting to recreate what already works

[half harness]

_ _

[quiet depot]

if you're storing sensitive data, and that gets leaked, and it's reverse engineered because of shitty security practices

you will get fucked over legally

[prisma wave]

ok sha256 was made by researchers for the US government, and has been proven safe by thousands of people that actually know what they're talking about

frankly you're kidding yourself if you think you can do better

the majority of the web runs of SHA-2

[inner umbra]

Never said better. It could be but I'm not at that point.

[half harness]

then why are you using it in a public project

[prisma wave]

then whats the point?

[quiet depot]

again, feel free to make an algorithm, you just cannot ever use it in a public project

[prisma wave]

^

if it will objectively be worse, then there is 0 reason to use it

[wintry plinth]

I’m using SHA256 hashing myself, I wouldn’t ever make my own for something to severe

I’d rather use what the professionals have tried and tested, not some rando

I don’t have the experience to put my users at risk

[inner umbra]

Let me just make something clear.... I have not said I was making a project....
The question I asked was what was the best hashing/encryption for sending passwords to a login server.
Then asked if my own would be a good option but most users here got made because I asked that LMFAO

[half harness]

um

[inner umbra]

Never said I was. I just said I can

[prisma wave]

we "got mad" because you seemed to suggest that you knew better than the industry standards, not because you suggested making your own

[inner umbra]

I made it abundantly clear I didn't Try reading my messages 😉

[prisma wave]

i.e "if they can do it, so can I"

[inner umbra]

I said it might take longer than normal hashers because mine wouldn't be known

[half harness]

yes and we're trying to make it so that you can't
since can might become will

[prisma wave]

...

that is not how security works

[wintry plinth]

Adding a salt would also make yours not known..

[inner umbra]

That literally is xD Takes time to reverse engineer security measures.

[prisma wave]

ok try reverse engineering salted sha256 hashes

lmao

[wintry plinth]

😂

[prisma wave]

it's computationally impossible

[quiet depot]

wellllll

[inner umbra]

Super computers

[prisma wave]

...

lmao

[quiet depot]

super computer wouldn't be able to do it

[prisma wave]

u are trolling

yeah

we're talking billions of years to compute

[quiet depot]

my welllll was for the quantum type

[prisma wave]

even that will take a long time

[inner umbra]

Anything is possible with enough time. (Yes even millennia)

[prisma wave]

LMAO

bro

[quiet depot]

atm

[half harness]

see you in a billion years bm

[prisma wave]

billions - trillions of years

that is not a concern in the slightest lmao

u effectively cannot reverse engineer sha256, or any other good hashing algorithm

it is just not possible

[inner umbra]

Thats a lie

[prisma wave]

no it's not

[half harness]

effectively

[timid solstice]

do PlaceholderAPI suport Realistic seasons ?

[prisma wave]

the only thing you can do is brute force, which takes an extremely long time, hence the "effectively"

[half harness]

#placeholder-api

[wintry plinth]

Remember, Yapps knows better about security

[prisma wave]

yeah sure, but by the time quantum computers are mainstream there will be new ways of hashing

clearly lmao

[inner umbra]

I'm not gonna post links or anything pointing towards it, do your own research there are plenty of dehashed Sha256 leaks.

[prisma wave]

...

[wintry plinth]

For a start, they don’t use a salt

[prisma wave]

those are just rainbow tables lmao

and yeah, salting makes those completely redundant

[quiet depot]

nice little anecdote of education failure:
I had a university grad straight face tell me his 4x1070 computer could brute a 521 ecdsa key in 4 minutes just running hash cat

[prisma wave]

lmao

[quiet depot]

yeah

meant to be one of the best cybersec courses in aus

very concerning

[timid solstice]

ohh ya ty

[static zealot]

yeah. from what I've heard rn the main concern is storing leaked hash messages and stuff and decrypting them when quantum computers will be more common. but that will mostly just affect stuff at country level for the most part. since in 50-60 years, whenever it happens, I won't be around lol

[prisma wave]

i think it's still speculation that quantum computers will be able to break the hashing

[wintry plinth]

Note to self: don’t sign up to any Yapp related services, even with a random password

[prisma wave]

like nobody has proved it to be possible yet

[static zealot]

idk but I've seen like OpenSSH adding extra protection for that.

already

[quiet depot]

I have a friend called time who's working on it bm

[static zealot]

and there's agencies working on this

like they've been working on this for years

[prisma wave]

we'll see what results they produce

[static zealot]

we'll not. bcz we'll all be dead in a few years

nuclear war and all that

[quiet depot]

maybe you

i'm in aus

[static zealot]

so?

ah. you're a fake person

Ic

[quiet depot]

bit of an odd target

[static zealot]

you can't kill something that doesn't exist

[quiet depot]

yes but let's entertain us existing for the sake of hypotheticals

we don't have nukes

[static zealot]

alright. I think I Can almost do that

[quiet depot]

there's only ~20 something mil of us

[prisma wave]

It is of course also possible to use a 256 bit pepper, which is a salt value that is kept secret. In that case "cracking" the hash will require both the password and the pepper. We cannot do that even with quantum computers because the energy requirements would be too high (cracking > 128 bit security against classical computers or > 256 bit against quantum computers is completely infeasible and forever will be)

Not sure how true this is, but I was looking and saw it on a SO answer

[chilly zenith]

ed25519

[quiet depot]

forever
link me to this post

I need to note their username

[prisma wave]

https://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/87703/how-long-would-it-take-all-of-the-supercomputers-or-cloud-computing-on-earth-to

[static zealot]

well idk. but I've seen that the us gouvernment already is working on this. or at least some department together with some companies and organisations

[quiet depot]

they'll regret the day they decided to use "forever"

[prisma wave]

we'll see

[prisma wave]

apparently breaking sha256 would need something like 50 million qubits and the most powerful quantum computer at the moment only has 127

[static zealot]

that's fine

we'll become a type 2 civilisation at some point. that's when we'll be able to use it

[quiet depot]

blitz you seem to have conflicting views

[static zealot]

idk. I'm just trolling

[quiet depot]

you mentioned nuclear war before

but believe we'll become a type 2

[static zealot]

yes

the survivors will raise from the ashes like a phoenix.

or like a pokemon

and will evolve

[inner umbra]

It seems like you guys are forgetting that all of this had to be created by someone or multiple people. Just because flaws have not been found yet does not mean there aren't any xD

[static zealot]

but that doesn't mean you can do it better

that was the point of the conversation

[wintry plinth]

^

[inner umbra]

That was you're point and others point which I literally said was invalid xD

[quiet depot]

yapps, any existing flaws have eluded the smartest mathematicians, computer scientists, security experts, no-life hobbyists since the invention of these algorithms

[quiet depot]

they are so incredibly well tested that the entire world uses them

you, simply cannot do the same level of testing

not even close

[ocean quartz]

The point of the conversation is that you can definitely make your own to learn, etc, but use the known good ones for production products instead of your own, it's not that hard

[static zealot]

you said and I quote

That literally is xD Takes time to reverse engineer security measures.
and
I said it might take longer than normal hashers because mine wouldn't be known

but if someone puts their eyes on your database, it might literally take days or hours to reverse engenire

[obtuse gale]

They did not come up with SHA256 in mom's basement when they were in their early 20s

[static zealot]

holy shit how many times do I have to repeat myself? I've said multiple times that those people were mathematicians and geniuses when they made those algorithms. and you clearly aren't any of those 2. how can you claim to be able to make it better?

[inner umbra]

The same can be said for any database

[static zealot]

yes. but its a difference when it takes 2 hours for yours

[cinder flare]

what's going on here

[static zealot]

and 200000000000 years for others

[obtuse gale]

They have decades upon decades of experience and formal knowledge and studies on everything-mathematics and security

you don't

[cinder flare]

is yapper rolling his own encryption algorithm

[obtuse gale]

he saying he can do better than sha256

[wintry plinth]

Yapp thinks making his own hashing system is better than sha256

[cinder flare]

what lmao

as if

[inner umbra]

nope

[wintry plinth]

As sha256 can be “cracked@

[static zealot]

no one is saying, don't do it. just don't do it publicly. until you're at their level and can prove it will take thousands upon thousands of years to breach

yes, do it for the sake of learning I guess but you claimed you can do it better. which is false

[cinder flare]

i mean yeah if you publish a peer-reviewed scientific paper proving your algorithm, then maybe it'll be good

that won't happen though lmao

[inner umbra]

Literally proved you wrong 3 times now. I said "Currently I can't do it better".

[wintry plinth]

I wouldn’t put my users at risk by making my own, like I said above, security isn’t something you “yolo” with

[static zealot]

you did not prove me wrong at all?

[cinder flare]

yeah this is why I use Django's authentication stuff man

i ain't doing that shit myself

[inner umbra]

Then stop lieing LMFAO

[quiet depot]

;-;

[cinder flare]

gonna rediscover CSRF and shit lmao

[static zealot]

where the fuck you said `"can

't do it better"

[quiet depot]

blitz

pls

[cinder flare]

👀

[quiet depot]

respecc

[inner umbra]

I've screen shotted it LMFAO

[static zealot]

who? this mf. I'm going to start trolling as well now.

[static zealot]

show it

I want to see

[glacial junco]

I am making a class plugin, and I wanted to know how I can make certain potioneffects when choosing a class

[quiet depot]

#development

[static zealot]

I'm waiting yappers

[inner umbra]

Read the messages

You are trolling. Learn to fucking read

[cinder flare]

I mean to be fair, show this screenshot lol

you did say you took it

[obtuse gale]

"no"

[static zealot]

if he can be a troll, I Can be an even bigger troll

I have a screenshot of yappers saying he eats sandals

but won't show it

[cinder flare]

I mean if everyone got the same understanding out of this conversation, it was probably for a reason

[static zealot]

you literally argued with yourself in this conversation then

[inner umbra]

OMFG lol. Keep thinking that way. You didn't even fucking read the convo and just argued with messages others were sending.

[static zealot]

here you go

I can get screenshots as well

... delete your messages if you want to argue. but oh no, I Can see those as well

[inner umbra]

Yeap and it has logic to it.

[inner umbra]

Perfect example. Ruining you're own argument xD

"I'm not currently."

[quiet depot]

stop

[static zealot]

.

[obtuse gale]

"a lot known hashers have decrypters"?🤨

[static zealot]

emily. clearly we should stop xD

@half harness

[half harness]

oh this is still going on 🥲

[quiet depot]

no

it has ended

[static zealot]

nah

[half harness]

oh

[cinder flare]

security through obscurity 🤡 lmao

[half harness]

it was* still going on

[static zealot]

trying to start a new one

dkim what you doing rn?

[half harness]

watching youtube

[static zealot]

wanna play some good ol' bedwars?

[quiet depot]

master, that topic has ended

[half harness]

not rn, gtg in like 5 minutes

[static zealot]

smh piggy. you clearly are overwhelemed. just close the channel

[half harness]

5-10 minutes

[static zealot]

alr

[prisma wave]

if you can mathematically prove that there are no flaws, then there are no flaws

[static zealot]

LMAO

piggy.

[obtuse gale]

"ur wrong"

[static zealot]

I'm laughing at piggy btw

time to use that nice =lock command

[quiet depot]

I don't care if you guys go back to arguing the actual argument, relating to why current encryption methods are good, why yapps making his own is bad

the issue is it devolved into a who said what, accusations of trolling, even name calling lol

[prisma wave]

u smell

[quiet depot]

respect needs to be maintained

[prisma wave]

shut up

[compact perch]

You dun goofed.

[obtuse gale]

lol

[static zealot]

LMAO

even barry is mocking you

[quiet depot]

well

idek

[willow yew]

Good until quantum computing kills all encryption

Rip world

[quiet depot]

brister mitten addressed that

[static zealot]

joe

[inner umbra]

At that point it will be computer vs computer hashing and decrypting each other.

[wintry plinth]

Gonna make CHA256 tomorrow, because fuck SHA256

[cinder flare]

bro ChaCha is literally a thing

[wintry plinth]

Lmao really? Bout to do the Cha Cha Slide Hash

[hot hull]

bout to cha cha whoop your ass

[static zealot]

haha

[brazen ether]

let's say i have this code creating a new scoreboard: ```java
ScoreboardManager manager = Bukkit.getScoreboardManager();
Scoreboard scoreboard = manager.getNewScoreboard();
Objective objective = scoreboard.registerNewObjective("main_board", "dummy");
objective.setDisplaySlot(DisplaySlot.SIDEBAR);

    Score score = objective.getScore("Test string");
    score.setScore(0);
    
    p.setScoreboard(scoreboard);``` (p is defined)

and this works fine, creates a new scoreboard. but how would i change line 0 to another string? for example from "Test string" to "Not a test string"? thanks

[brazen ether]

okay i think i've solved this by using scoreboard.resetScores

[obtuse gale]

That's one way to do it yeah

[obtuse gale]

can you use a single domain for multiple google sites? example; site1.customdomain.com site2.customdomain.com

[rotund egret]

You mean subdomains? Yes

[obtuse gale]

yo antone know react native

[eternal compass]

probably

?help

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

» Give the helpers some details
» Ask suitable questions
» Be polite
» Wait

Source

Requested by: Fredthedoggy • help

[obtuse gale]

just now saw this but finally fixed it after so long xd

[ruby dew]

gonna make a system for hiding a whole plugin jar inside a cpp exe to avoid decompilation
and then the cpp exe is gonna hook into spigot itself through socket
wdyall think

[obtuse gale]

dumb bundle wasnt being created when i was installing expo

[ruby dew]

like people can still gonna compile the whole source code with decompilers in java even if your jar is obfuscated
but wrapping it up in cpp just makes it a whole lot saver

[obtuse gale]

ok

[sweet cipher]

I think it sounds like you are trying to install malware on people’s servers

And trying to get people to help you with it

[eternal compass]

sounds like someone's gonna write something to intercept the socket connection

[willow yew]

Waste of time just make a real rat

[ruby dew]

lol it surely sounds fishy enough
i have thought about the exe being too malware like
but the programs gonna be open source
and i will make sure the source code corresponds to the program at run time
like adding sha256 for checksum

[ruby dew]

I have thought about it and the solution is by using sha256 as the checksum
Like ones gonna upload its source code along with the jar to my site
then the sites gonna hash it with sha 256 and put it in the exe
the jar will be compared to the sha256 hash runtime and check if the whole jar matches
if not, then the socket/jar is intercepted/modified

but surely people will have to trust me enough before they use my program
so imma make the whole thing open source

[ruby dew]

nah im all serious mate lol
I never ever do virus
but surely this sounds kinda stupid this whole exe thing

[rotund egret]

Yes

[earnest narwhal]

#970433903594700850 message
@hot hull not accepting friend reqs

[hot hull]

Ah my bad

Enabled now @earnest narwhal

[earnest narwhal]

Accept :-;

[distant sun]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/uvuws5/i_broke_into_the_matrix/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[obtuse gale]

hey guys

i need some help

[cinder flare]

don't we all

[old wyvern]

I do 😔

[foggy pond]

Bit of a strange question, how many bytes does float[4][0] take in a 64 bit system 😅 it's for some homework, I have no idea how to calculate it

I doubt it's 4*4

[sly sonnet]

4*4

[foggy pond]

A float takes 4 bytes

[sly sonnet]

yes

[foggy pond]

12 bytes + 4 bytes for their size + 4*4

[sly sonnet]

4 bytes

[foggy pond]

An array takes 12 bytes of space + 4 bytes + 4 * the size of the array if it has floats

[sly sonnet]

32 bytes then ? idk

[foggy pond]

Nah, the lowest option is 56 bytes

Could it be 88

[sly sonnet]

wait imma research

[foggy pond]

Been trying to do that for a while haha

[sly sonnet]

java?

or c++

[foggy pond]

Java

[sly sonnet]

is 160 an option?

https://stackoverflow.com/a/14919961

[foggy pond]

Nope, it's either 80, 88, 56, 96

[sly sonnet]

idk then man

xd

[prisma wave]

I'm pretty sure it's JVM dependant

There's stuff like object headers which are quite implementation specific

[potent nest]

this!

pretty sure OpenJ9 has different object headers than hotspot

[prisma wave]

Almost certainly yeah

So it's a pretty shit question tbh lol

[dense dew]

nice https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2022/05/take-part-in-the-new-ui-preview-for-your-jetbrains-ide/

[wintry plinth]

Looks stunning

[chilly zenith]

yes it does a little pinky promise with itself

jk

[wintry plinth]

async function gimmeMyShitFromTheDB() {
  const rows = await getFromDB();
  // do your shit with rows
}

[obtuse gale]

well async/await is the "standard" "proper" way to deal with promises in js

but what's happening there is pretty much just like, return promise, then pass a function that takes the result and returns another promise, then another function that takes the other result and returns another promise, etc

[wintry plinth]

Yeah literally this, he can deal with the data the same way

But you won’t have a billion callbacks

wait for the data from the DB, do everything you need to do to it

You’re welcome lol

Also I’m pretty sure if you use .then(), it would of meant it was async

[obtuse gale]

yeah async/await is literally just syntax wrapping promises and continuations

[wintry plinth]

Yeah 😅

I love await, makes code much cleaner

Dealing with multiple callbacks always looked super iffy

[wintry plinth]

😂

We’ve all had those moments

[brazen ether]

how can i set a player's absorption hearts? Damagable.setAbsorptionAmount isn't a thing in 1.8 ( the version i'm working with )

nvm figure it out

[distant sun]

I believe it was added only on 1.11

[hot hull]

You know when you open the Material enum, and it loads it instantly :moan:

[static zealot]

haha. I know

[distant sun]

Yes

[low remnant]

Does anyone know about a good mysql + sqlite wrapper with methods like createColoum, createTable etc. ?

[pastel imp]

No but if you find one, let me know pls lol

[agile galleon]

ormlite?

[ocean quartz]

JOOQ

[pastel imp]

Hmm thx will see

Uhm also, what are ways to identify whats causing a lot of CPU usage in my plugin?

[sly sonnet]

timings

spark

[pastel imp]

I will get back to you in a few minutes

[plain dragon]

prisma

[distant sun]

🐒

[ruby dew]

No you don’t get what I mean

The program thing used to wrap jars into cpp exe is open source

But the exe product (obfuscated junk) is not open source

But it is indeed stupid
Can’t think of why anyone would wanna use it

[willow yew]

Any profiler yea

[willow yew]

Idk why anyone would make it, it’s a waste of time imo. Mine swell go learn assembly it’ll be more useful than that

Ur gonna open a socket and download the jar from where?

[rotund egret]

The datacenter patched through the intranet directly into darpanet, it'll contact the data supplier and encapsulate the packets with deep bit shifting for an extra layer of security.

[obtuse gale]

i.e. your ass

[willow yew]

Deep bit shifting lmaooo

Shift these nuts in your mouth

[prisma wave]

I'm new here, say hi!
System icon for new server members.

[pastel imp]

sus

[obtuse gale]

out of all buttons they choose to put a ping button?

[wintry plinth]

LOL

[willow yew]

Lil bills a long time member lil do you know

[static zealot]

@willow yewhi

[obtuse gale]

hey

[willow yew]

hey ems

[inner umbra]

And you can't remove/disable it either

[sly sonnet]

@willow yewhi

[willow yew]

Ems and Santa the only two here b4 me as ik

[prisma wave]

?

[onyx loom]

?

[willow yew]

?

[candid grotto]

How can I put a glass pane with specific color in the inventory? There is only GLASS_PANE option

[ocean quartz]

I'm assuming you're using 1.8? Because anything above 1.13 has the specific color
In 1.8 you set the color with item data or something like that

[candid grotto]

you mean java version?

<java.version>1.8</java.version>

[ocean quartz]

Minecraft version

[candid grotto]

minecraft is
<version>1.18.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT</version>

[ocean quartz]

Then it's just {color}_STAINED_GLASS_PANE

[candid grotto]

indeed...

[chilly zenith]

@willow yewpinged

[willow yew]

what?

[rotund egret]

Oh shit it's little bill

[willow yew]

the og

[ruby dew]

I don’t have a life so I can make it for fun

[ruby dew]

First the there are obfuscator exe
and template exe (template exe programs with same code with stores the jar data)
The obfuscator wrap the jar code into the template exe in c++ and the whole thing is downloadable from the internet

To use the wrapped up exe with jar code inside,there will be a plugin jar responsible for loading all these wrapped up cpp exe junk. The exe junk all are stored in a single plugin folder.

Sockets will be opened to transfer the jar data into java uri class loader

And then wham,plugin loaded

[obtuse gale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/289587909051416579/978417932193374208/its_in_ya_fone.mp4

@quiet depot ^

@potent nest I'm sure you'll enjoy that magnificent production of project Duke as well

[lavish notch]

I honestly don't know what to think.

[stoic vector]

Can someone help me with a gui I'm trying to make it so that when u join the server u can use a item to pull up a gui menu we're you can click on a item and it will use the mv create command but it needs to make each new world a different name and then tp you to that newly created world is this possible or should I make a custom plugin for it think of it as hypixel smp.

[potent nest]

That’s so good

[distant sun]

I thought that tv is a microwave lol

[distant sun]

Is there a paste like service that can be used to create debug dumps? Something like scans.gradle.com.
I currently use HelpChat's paste but it is kinda messy https://paste.helpch.at/futejuxupa.log

[quiet depot]

oh my

[quiet depot]

same

[candid grotto]

How can I understand what triggers InventoryInteractEvent? If I, for example, want to do an action when a player equips armor by right click when the armor is in the hand, will it be triggered?

[rotund egret]

d;spigot InventoryInteractEvent

[ruby crater]

org.bukkit.event.inventory.InventoryInteractEvent

public abstract class InventoryInteractEvent
extends InventoryEvent
implements Cancellable```
InventoryInteractEvent has 3 sub classes, 1 all implementations, 6 methods, 1 implementations, and  1 extensions.

Description:

An abstract base class for events that describe an interaction between a HumanEntity and the contents of an Inventory.

Requested by: Doctor Zod • spigot

[rotund egret]

I'm going to say no

[quiet depot]

yeah I'm gonna say no too but test it

there probably isn't an exhaustive list out there

[candid grotto]

then what event can react on such action?

[distant sun]

There's 3 subclasses, armor equip using drag and drop fires InventoryClick

[distant sun]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/ux0kux/pick_one_or_more/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[sly sonnet]

php it is

[static zealot]

man usually the entire funny is in comments. https://i.imgur.com/K02e1lZ.png

I laughed

[prisma wave]

rare programmerhumor W

[stoic vector]

can someone who is good with this plugin pls help me with making something im a owner on a network and im trying to add a gui but it is very advanced and im not sure if its worth making a custom plugin for it

pls dm me

[candid grotto]

Can anyone tell me what's wrong with my event. I want specific item with a name (which I put in the inventory before) to be fixed. But for now, when I click on this item, it stays in the slot but also is given to my cursor, so it gets cloned. Setting onCursor Item, as I did in the code, doesn't work https://paste.helpch.at/gacuxagihu.cs

and setting it to null too

[static zealot]

not sure, but try setting the cursor item on the next tick

instead of doing it in the same tick

[ocean harness]

https://pastebin.com/QypAJ9PT code
https://pastebin.com/uaSQcmcF error
don't know what i messed up

[static zealot]

you're getting the second argument when you checked before to make sure there's only 1 argument

[inner umbra]

That seems right to me.

[static zealot]

ah. its <=. Ic

but no. its not right tho?

[distant sun]

<= 2 also means 0

[static zealot]

yeah lol

for a second I almost believed you

smh my head

my statement was not completely correct tho as well

[inner umbra]

I didn't read what he posted. Just what you put.

[static zealot]

but its not correct.

if you check length <= 2 that means length can be 0, 1 or 2

so when you get args[1] and the length is 0 or 1 it will throw that error

[inner umbra]

He checks if they are null in the image you posted.

[static zealot]

butt

but(

I can't tell if you're trolling me rn

or not

[inner umbra]

Screen shot the error

[static zealot]

its literally an array out of bounds error

you can't check if its null or not. if the array is not as big as the index you use, it will throw

you won't have a chance to check if its null or not

[inner umbra]

Then yes you're correct.

[static zealot]

well the error is up there. lol

[inner umbra]

I don't click links. Had a whole convo about this xD

[ocean harness]

its https

[inner umbra]

Doesn't matter.

Should be able to send barry a command to get the helpchat paste (or pastebin) as a txt.

[distant sun]

AIOOB 🥲

[ocean harness]

so i should check exactly like == ? or what

[static zealot]

yes?

[static zealot]

yes

[ocean harness]

thx

[inner umbra]

Need to check for the correct lengths. Blitz was right in that case. (I was assuming an NPE or something)

[static zealot]

Yapperyapps is typing...

[inner umbra]

Mostly typing a word then alt tabbing xD

Or accidentally hitting 1 letter and it stays there

[half harness]

Hmm anyone know why nginx would return an error 521? It was working fine yesterday...
I have cloudflare setup (proxied) to my IP, and this is my nginx config (map.dkim19375.me.conf):

server {
        server_name map.dkim19375.me;
        listen 80;
        listen [::]:80;
        access_log /var/log/nginx/reverse-access.log;
        error_log /var/log/nginx/reverse-error.log;
        location / {
                    proxy_pass http://192.168.1.169:8192;
  }
}
``` and `http://192.168.1.169:8192` works fine

My other nginx configs also don't work :/

any way I could debug this or figure this out somehow

[humble silo]

Anyone know what the replaceement for all the java.security stuff is gonna be? I need to sandbox a couple dependencies and keep running into having to deal with the SecurityManager, AccessController etc. which are all set for removal??

[obtuse gale]

JPMS is the replacement for the SecurityManager etc

(to my understanding)

[sweet cipher]

Just Python My Security

[potent nest]

There‘s no 1:1 replacement, but JPMS is part of it , yes

[sly sonnet]

python my ass

[humble silo]

but for sandboxing what does the module system do? I see no way other way other than of using the whole permission system with a protection domain when loading classes...

modules by default still have complete access to the whole file system, network etc.

[round bronze]

Question does anyone know how to change a mod so it’s works in 1.16.5

It’s a simple camera mod to record cinematics

[ocean quartz]

It's a lot harder than it may sound, even if the mod is open sourced

Depending on the current version of the mod you'll likely have to rewrite everything

[obtuse gale]

I mean there isn't really an answer to that altogether lol

it's just "updating the things that changed"

[round bronze]

Welll

Does anyone know how to do it

[sly sonnet]

do what

[half harness]

this (@sly sonnet)

[round bronze]

its an odd one because the mod itself doesnt record cinematic it basically makes it so you yourself becomes the camera and you can then record that from obs

usually i play 1.12.2 so its no issue but im doing 1.16.5

[sweet cipher]

If you send the mod source someone could look at it

[round bronze]

i mean i can send the mod itself but i have no idea where the code would be

[static zealot]

welp...

its not as easy as pressing a button lol

[round bronze]

ikk

[ocean quartz]

1.12 to 1.16 will likely be almost a rewrite so good luck

[round bronze]

i mean im willing to pay someone a reasonable price if they can do it

[ocean quartz]

Well #970433902772617246

[sweet cipher]

How did you get the mod?

[round bronze]

i searched up Bauer Cam and downloaded the Jar file

[untold goblet]

I need a mod for help me pls

[dawn island]

?not-discord

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

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If you require support from discord, we recommend you to visit their official support website at https://support.discord.com
On this website, you can read their FAQs, or open a support ticket if necessary.

Requested by: kgmhidden • not-discord

[static zealot]

its helpchat related. we ended up figuring it out (almost) in #bot-commands

they're waiting for funnycube to wake up and unlink their ld account now.

[dawn island]

I see, no one responded to the initial message here, and presumed no one answered or solved the user's issue.

[uneven vapor]

I´m I working on set up deluxe menu in api format (so you can easy build a deluxe menu plugin). perhaps I should not publish it (it will then show up lots of deluxe menu clone´s on spigot XD).

[quick flume]

I feel the purpose might be pretty niche

[uneven vapor]

true 🙂 but build it with your menu´s when players want to also add own buttons in the menu can this be pretty nice.

[quick flume]

Huh?

Are you just saying you're making a plugin that generates deluxemenus files?

I am most utterly confused

[inner umbra]

No I think he's saying hes gonna make an API/plugin that utilizes deluxe menus

[quick flume]

I got that in the first message

[quick flume]

but was very confused reading this

add own buttons to menu

[inner umbra]

🤷

[distant sun]

doesn't sound like a good idea, dm doesn't even have an api though

[quick flume]

I don't understand it

[inner umbra]

🤷 not my idea lol

[distant sun]

Yeah xD

[inner umbra]

I'd make my own from scratch

[distant sun]

Maybe arrow can explain their idea better

[uneven vapor]

alright I made own custom api. Some use similar idea as deluxe menu. It can in theory use the deluxe menu files, but I have more settings and the name differ on the key´s in the yml file (some of the keys at least).

What i mean with buttons, is menu buttons (or what you want to call it). So you made "static" buttons some do plugin stuff (you know like change settings an soo on).

users/players of your plugin, want to add custom buttons with own commands (this api help with this). and is not depended at all on deluxe menu only inspiration.

[uneven vapor]

Sry not mean to confuse. No I not use deluxe menu in any way, only use it as a source of inspiration. I think it will be pretty cool if i get everything done. Deluxe menu have lots of stuff build in (will take time to add all functions). But it will be cleaner an deluxe menu is (I hope so at least).

[limber osprey]

How long does it take for you to get dev role? I've submitted my request like 2 weeks ago

[half harness]

months

I submitted mine months ago 🥲

lost track

[limber osprey]

Rip

[obtuse gale]

it depends on how much free time Piggy has for reviewing a whole batch

idk how much mine took but I think it was like 2 months or so? some have taken a few days only because that's just when piggy got to review them

so yeah /shrug

[quick flume]

Ohhhh it's not deluxemenus, that makes a LOT more sense

sounds pretty neat

[uneven vapor]

Yeah only problem is you barely need code at all when use this api (or yeah you need setup the command logic self) and it support ether one file with all menus or folder you want have the menu's (you set the name self).

So you need fix the logic part how you want to access all menus.

[uneven vapor]

You can find it here https://github.com/broken1arrow/MenuSettingsApi but have lots of work left. I fixed javascript support and compere support (like == and equals) and need fix javadoc also (I not include javascript inside because of the size, so you can self decide if you need it or not)).

I think you could inside your own plugin add that dependency and point my api to that (I see maven can change path import path on a compiled api (I get the issue self when it complain it could find a class and maven change the path)).

[hot hull]

Why so much arrow code reeee

[uneven vapor]

it should not have so much really. I working hard on on it and can you point were you find much?

I mean deluxe menu is even worse XD

And you can see in my name way i like arrow code XD

[hot hull]

Deluxemenus is a shit show when it comes to code organization

[plain dragon]

you should try guard clauses

and not throwing rte's

create your own exception extending rte

[uneven vapor]

yeah is on the list. only added as placeholders (will be handle better). as you can see is the code not finish need add more requirement options some missing.

And fix the item logic also (so you can add more stuff to the item (like potions and the effects and rgb colors to potions)).

[uneven vapor]

yeah I see that (I aim to clean up the code also, I fix it more when is more finish api*) and also find bug with the Exp Requirement, it check amount of point to next level not amount you have (he use wrong calculation if I understand deluxe menu wiki). and ways to report bugs is pretty bad :/

• can now in beginning contain some breaking changes on every update (will update wiki also when needed).

I use builder classes instead of what he uses. It make more sens to me use that over his method with setters.

[wind patio]

How does the bukkit version naming scheme work? ex. org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_18_R2
If I understand correctly:

• v1_18_R2 => 1.18.2 Release
• v1_18_R1 => 1.18.1 Release
  Right?
  What about 1.18.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT?

[potent nest]

1_m_Rn isn't necessarily 1.m.n, see 1.8 for example

[obtuse gale]

How does the bukkit version naming scheme work?
Depends on what md5 had for breakfast

But like unironically

[distant sun]

🤣