#dev-general

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normal ivy
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i mean, im talking about a subscription payment of 600/700 a month, so any devs interested hit me up

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small job, but skills required

quiet depot
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@normal ivy sorry, I just checked discord tos

static zealot
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I did 4 years of c++. that was 2 years ago. no thanks :))

quiet depot
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not actually allowed to post that stuff in discord

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you'll have to find someone elsewhere

normal ivy
quiet depot
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just not allowed to talk about game cheats

normal ivy
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well lets just say, its better gaming chairs im looking to purchase

boreal needle
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why do people take cheating so seriously

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its actually depressing

quiet depot
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well, then you can try buy them somewhere else

normal ivy
boreal needle
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no offence but that is incredibly sad

normal ivy
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it can be sad, i just woke up in a £2.75 million house lmfao

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can u say the same

onyx loom
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if ur rich can u send me money then

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I'm quite poor

normal ivy
onyx loom
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100% of ur Bank account 👍

normal ivy
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its empty, take it 🙂

quiet depot
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do u do crypto

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send me crypto

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tell me the currency and i'll paste the wallet

normal ivy
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i can pay in crypto, nft or art

boreal needle
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nfts 🌚

old wyvern
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1 bitcoin

cinder flare
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"art" 🥶

normal ivy
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1 bitcoin would mean i want ur service for the next 20 years lmfao

normal ivy
boreal needle
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1btc is like the lowest of the low end for a yearly salary here

quiet depot
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bc1q045dwl04yd7w45ygyyjrvvwe34ncep425gn6kq

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send btc

normal ivy
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for the man that hasnt done c++ in 2 years

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hm

normal ivy
quiet depot
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you've confused me with blitz

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I'm just accepting btc for free

boreal needle
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make that 2

old wyvern
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make that 3

normal ivy
old wyvern
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0.062 bitcoins will do

boreal needle
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embed fail

old wyvern
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Thanks

boreal needle
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laugh at this user!

quiet depot
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Hah!

normal ivy
normal ivy
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fuck sake

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ahahha

normal ivy
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some fresh jokes here fr well done everyone ClapClap

boreal needle
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banned from devden speedrun

normal ivy
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AAHAHAHAHA

old wyvern
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lmao

normal ivy
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new yt vid coming soon on it

quiet depot
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dev den merge with hc when

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brister mitten admin??

boreal needle
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do we keep the uwu role

quiet depot
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yes

boreal needle
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epic

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im in

old wyvern
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😮

boreal needle
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and do we keep booy

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and mark

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cant forget mark

cinder flare
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god I love booy

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i remember the day that was made

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classic emily, love her

quiet depot
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definitely can keep the emotes

boreal needle
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how about all our beautiful femboy stickers

cinder flare
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what about the rust channel

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that's vital

boreal needle
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what about odin

cinder flare
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oh yeah awkward lol

obtuse gale
prisma wave
obtuse gale
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billyb for admin

boreal needle
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no

obtuse gale
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probably the most deserving admin

lavish notch
obtuse gale
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to shutdown these skids

static zealot
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hmm. how about no?

small peak
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billyb best admin

obtuse gale
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yup mason knows

boreal needle
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ive never even spoken to you and i know thats a bad idea

static zealot
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:)))

obtuse gale
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must be because you have pronouns in your bio

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talking to a true american

boreal needle
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lmao ok

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im about as american as you are respectable

static zealot
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:))))

obtuse gale
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not with them pronouns

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un america

small peak
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billyb is a bigger minecraft hackerman than both of you though

static zealot
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hmm.

lavish notch
small peak
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she knows

obtuse gale
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yes hide your toasters, printers, and fridges

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i will blow them up

small peak
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toasters pop when billy around

static zealot
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do you shove them up your ass and then blow them?

small peak
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woah weird

obtuse gale
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no i show them your github

static zealot
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ah. makes sense.

obtuse gale
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tons of sense

steel heart
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honest opinion, larry should come back and become head sir owner of hc

obtuse gale
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conclure you know im meant to be

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head of hc

steel heart
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hmm

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idk

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i mean

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yes and no?

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no and yes

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perhaps

obtuse gale
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yes it is

steel heart
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If you can write me a clojure parser in brainfuck, then that shows dedication so in that case Id vouch for you, but otherwise I think larry should be head instead

small peak
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billyb only codes autoclickers in asm

obtuse gale
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yea what about asm

steel heart
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so you didnt code mason?

obtuse gale
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masons made in asm

small peak
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are you putting cap on my stack

obtuse gale
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very efficient

steel heart
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interesting

small peak
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clean up your code man you're filling the stack with cap

prisma wave
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xD

obtuse gale
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santa ive missed you

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you dont speak to me anymore

small peak
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I am going to heap allocate your mother and crash the server

steel heart
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billyb hows that memory thing going

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btw

prisma wave
obtuse gale
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i instead am making a cpp networking lib with epoll

prisma wave
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cringe

obtuse gale
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cuz fuck java

steel heart
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i mean

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rust

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:)))

prisma wave
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cringe

obtuse gale
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im good lmao

small peak
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yuck write it in c

prisma wave
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based

steel heart
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+ratioed

prisma wave
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Rust fans should be sent to prison

obtuse gale
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were never safe

steel heart
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what alternative do you suggest Santa?

obtuse gale
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cpp

prisma wave
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h

steel heart
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H#?

prisma wave
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yes

steel heart
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oh is it just called H or do u mean demonic haskell?

obtuse gale
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dead haskell

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he means

prisma wave
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Dead?

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Do you have a source for that claim?

obtuse gale
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terry davis

prisma wave
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He's biased

obtuse gale
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whos to say you arent as well?

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i mean idk haskell so im just playing but you do you

small peak
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haskell is based

prisma wave
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So true

prisma wave
small peak
obtuse gale
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terry davis on h

static zealot
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billyb just a random question. how many alts you got?

obtuse gale
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alt what?

small peak
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im not an alt dont call me an alt

static zealot
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did anyone talk with you mason?

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did you feel guilty?

small peak
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oh I thought you were implying that I was an alt of billyb

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dont come at me like that

static zealot
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or what?

obtuse gale
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how many alts of what?

small peak
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ill smell you

static zealot
obtuse gale
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2

prisma wave
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Mid game

obtuse gale
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this is my only discord lmao

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ive been in here for years bud

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i just dont sit here chatting all day to get a rank

static zealot
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doesn't seem like that lately

obtuse gale
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more like for enjoyment

static zealot
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I can help you stop chatting tho and achieving your dream

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its just 2 button clicks away

obtuse gale
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abusive?

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i did nothing wrong bud

static zealot
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you just have to ask

prisma wave
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ban me

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No balls

static zealot
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abusive? I was just giving you options

obtuse gale
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lmao youre sad

static zealot
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I am. and depressed

small peak
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there's no question, the cia is involved here

obtuse gale
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blitz just shut up bud youre a corrupt discord volunteer staff

static zealot
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hmm

boreal needle
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i honestly cannot tell if youre being satirical here

static zealot
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yes I am. but I Won't shut up

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I can't

obtuse gale
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i can tell by your chat level

static zealot
obtuse gale
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new project for your github?

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would fit well

static zealot
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hmm

small peak
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why do I see sad and disappointed are you edgy or something

static zealot
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you're not wrong

small peak
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thats sick

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down with the sickness

static zealot
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yeah. and not in a good way

obtuse gale
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youre sick bud

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go get vaxed

static zealot
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hmm. I want to get waxed

obtuse gale
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from looking at your github

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i expect you to be hairy

static zealot
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absolutely

obtuse gale
small peak
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spooky skelingtons

static zealot
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billyb. do you own any NFT?

small peak
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billyb shits bored apes

static zealot
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does he? that's cool

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seems like its time for a break then? I quite liked chatting with you billyb.

obtuse gale
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no i own 100 bitcoin

static zealot
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oh damn. that's cool.

obtuse gale
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was given to me as a present @ birth

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why do you wonder?

static zealot
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oh. so you must be quite young then. 13 yo at most. I could tell anyways.

obtuse gale
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volunteer worker trying to compare wallets?

prisma wave
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what is going on here man 😭 😵‍💫

obtuse gale
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santa how is this weirdo trusted

obtuse gale
static zealot
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yes. I ask myself that everyday.

prisma wave
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Yea I should be made owner

steel heart
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yup

obtuse gale
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if santa was owner you would be banned blitz, and i would be your daddy

steel heart
static zealot
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it would be quite weird if you ask me. My dad to be half my age.

prisma wave
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🤧

obtuse gale
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how old do you think i am man lol

remote goblet
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sounds like blitz is old

obtuse gale
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youre the one threatening with discord perms

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then calling me young

small peak
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jesus christ blitz is 40 chatting on discord

prisma wave
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I'm 18 tomorrow :)

static zealot
obtuse gale
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yea bllitz must be 40 then

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since im 20

static zealot
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ah yes. 100%

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that's what a 13 yo would say

obtuse gale
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?

steel heart
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had that for over a year

remote goblet
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your discord servers are a mess

steel heart
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ye

static zealot
prisma wave
obtuse gale
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Blitz

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are you 40?

static zealot
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no. I am actually just 3 years younger than PiggyPigglet. So with simple maths, I am 116 yo.

obtuse gale
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so now youre an abusive lying staff member?

static zealot
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absolutely. I Do that for a living.

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pays pretty well

obtuse gale
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explains your dry wallet

prisma wave
small peak
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nah mans got a 401k, wife, and child

steel heart
obtuse gale
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Can I have your random teleport plugin blitz?

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Very intriguing project you have there

static zealot
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well its Open Source. So you can clone/fork and build it. yes.

obtuse gale
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This will be so useful for my server

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Thanks

small peak
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im gonna randomly teleport to the jungle with purple monkey and swing vine to vine in search of bananas

static zealot
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awesome

obtuse gale
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Will it randomly teleport me to the nether?

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I need to go to the nether

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For a quick mission

static zealot
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It can. but it will most likely teleport you on top of the world (above bedrock).

small peak
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feature rich

obtuse gale
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Been looking for a random tp plugin of this expertise

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Do you have a join plugin too?

prisma wave
static zealot
obtuse gale
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guys

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do a barrel roll

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guys you should google "do a barrel roll"

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it does something really funny

static zealot
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yes. its very interesting. google page will actually do a barrel roll

small peak
steel heart
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o

static zealot
steel heart
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it just barrel rolled me

obtuse gale
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epic embed failure

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Emily google what year will Blitz lose his virginity

prisma wave
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@obtuse gale can you get over the fact that the word "gullible" upside down looks like a cat ?

small peak
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epic chat feature

prisma wave
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I can't

obtuse gale
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I cannot

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It’ll show never

prisma wave
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Omg same

static zealot
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must be a spelling mistake

obtuse gale
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My mom looks at GitHub’s before sex, and you don’t pass the test bud

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So nice cap

static zealot
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Interesting. But you clearly did. Did you enjoy it?

obtuse gale
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No you failed the test

prisma wave
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Jithub

obtuse gale
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Blitz why does my browser show ShitHub when I look at your profile

small peak
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another man with a sexier github got the job done

static zealot
prisma wave
obtuse gale
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@obtuse gale

prisma wave
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@obtuse gale

obtuse gale
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She blocked me for the 20th time

static zealot
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Gregory seems cool.

obtuse gale
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he a cool guy

prisma wave
obtuse gale
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@prisma wave say billy b would like to be unblocked

prisma wave
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I HAVE DISCORD NITRO WOOOOOOOO

static zealot
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Good job!

prisma wave
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XDDD

static zealot
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Funny Moment!

obtuse gale
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Haha

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Yes

prisma wave
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yep

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Yeah

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Yeperoo

obtuse gale
prisma wave
static zealot
obtuse gale
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No Santa

prisma wave
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Yes

obtuse gale
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You must say emily

prisma wave
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emily

obtuse gale
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can you unmute billyb

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I mean unblock

prisma wave
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can you unmute billyb

obtuse gale
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I’d appreciate it

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Thanks

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I can

prisma wave
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I mean unblock

obtuse gale
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I can, yes

prisma wave
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I'd appreciate it

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Thanks

obtuse gale
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okay

static zealot
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She can. But should she unblock you? That's the real question

prisma wave
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he's not saying anything else

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I don't know what to do

obtuse gale
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Why was I blocked is the question

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okay

static zealot
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Maybe if you share some of those 200 bitcoins you own, you guys can talk about it

prisma wave
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Why was I blocked is the question

obtuse gale
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you aren't

prisma wave
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you aren't

obtuse gale
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you aren't

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why you remove me as a friend

prisma wave
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billyb is typing...

obtuse gale
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we were the bestest of briends

static zealot
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Santa you do emily and I do billyb

prisma wave
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why you remove me as a friend

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we were the bestest of briends

obtuse gale
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santa its working

prisma wave
obtuse gale
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we need to get the point across

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twice

static zealot
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ok

obtuse gale
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ove me as a fri

prisma wave
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santa its working

static zealot
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ove me as a fri

prisma wave
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we need to get the point across

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twice

obtuse gale
static zealot
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sal with airpods

obtuse gale
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she still has me blocked

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sad times

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10 football matches with crazy weather

static zealot
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10 football matches with crazy weather

prisma wave
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sal with airpods
This sticker is from a server that is either private or unavailable

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she still has me blocked

obtuse gale
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maxresdefault.png

prisma wave
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sad times

static zealot
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maxresdefault.png

obtuse gale
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okay epic let's go

static zealot
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okay epic let's go

obtuse gale
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my gf has blocked me

obtuse gale
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epic embed fail

prisma wave
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my gf has blocked me

static zealot
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epic embed fail

small peak
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bomp is bird blitz is rat

obtuse gale
static zealot
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bomp is bird blitz is rat

obtuse gale
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[16:11] Blitz: bomp is bird blitz is rat

static zealot
prisma wave
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yo that seagull the glizzy gulper 🤩 😳 🤯

static zealot
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[16:11] Blitz: bomp is bird blitz is rat

obtuse gale
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@obtuse gale

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do you see me

prisma wave
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@obtuse gale

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do you see me

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WELL??

obtuse gale
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well in that case

static zealot
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well in that case

obtuse gale
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i rest my case

prisma wave
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😕

onyx loom
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epic embed fail

static zealot
static zealot
obtuse gale
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!!!

static zealot
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!!!

prisma wave
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you so
fucking
previous
when you
Smile

obtuse gale
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previous

prisma wave
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YSFPWYS

onyx loom
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you so
fucking
previous
when you
Smile

static zealot
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previous

prisma wave
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previous

compact perchBOT
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📋 Your paste: Emily
https://paste.helpch.at/tidaxihoma

A member of staff has requested I move your message to a paste,
Most likely because it contains a config/error/code snippet.

prisma wave
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No spamming

obtuse gale
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thanks barry

static zealot
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thanks barry

prisma wave
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You are being rate limited.

obtuse gale
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Thanks to Smarika Sigdel, Arianathagod, Lina, Sarah for correcting these lyrics.

compact perchBOT
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📋 Your paste: BlitzOffline
https://paste.helpch.at/gocenukude

A member of staff has requested I move your message to a paste,
Most likely because it contains a config/error/code snippet.

static zealot
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Thanks to Smarika Sigdel, Arianathagod, Lina, Sarah for correcting these lyrics.

obtuse gale
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Writer(s): Ariana Grande, Njomza Vitia, Taylor Monet Parks, Victoria Monet McCants, Kimberly Krysiuk, Michael David Foster, Thomas Lee Brown, Charles Michael Anderson, Oscar Ii Hammerstein, Richard Rodgers

static zealot
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Writer(s): Ariana Grande, Njomza Vitia, Taylor Monet Parks, Victoria Monet McCants, Kimberly Krysiuk, Michael David Foster, Thomas Lee Brown, Charles Michael Anderson, Oscar Ii Hammerstein, Richard Rodgers

prisma wave
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she really said this

obtuse gale
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omg

static zealot
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so smart ❤️ ❤️ ⭐ ❤️ ❗ ❣️ Star

obtuse gale
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Barry is being a misogynist

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he's telling me to use #bot-commands

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i guess emily is just not my type

static zealot
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no one is your type if we're being honest

prisma wave
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i guess emily is just not my type

obtuse gale
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yea none of these bitches on my level

prisma wave
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yea none of these bitches on my level

static zealot
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exactly. you're to low for everyone

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man. I love it. you're finally being open about your feelings. I guess this hour of therapy was really worth it

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no one asked you mason so keep for yourself. thanks

small peak
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blitz highest on the totem pole look at his github for proof

obtuse gale
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blitz github is under the ocean

prisma wave
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blitz github is under the ocean

obtuse gale
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santa its nice to see you agree

obtuse gale
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ain't you got a mother?

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"everyone's got a mother, at least one"

small peak
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retweet

obtuse gale
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LMAOOO

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emily fingers chickens dont let her hurt your feelings santa

small peak
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^

latent dirge
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Coders have the worst humor!

obtuse gale
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ok

onyx loom
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ok

static zealot
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ok

latent dirge
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ok

obtuse gale
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convace has the worst server

latent dirge
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This is also true!

small peak
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im gonna mine your adventures

latent dirge
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Oh no, shiver my timbers

obtuse gale
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she made toothpicks of the timber of my heart

latent dirge
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Your name is Emily

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Don't you species of human fake injuries in gym class?

obtuse gale
static zealot
obtuse gale
latent dirge
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Oh, you don't get the stereotype

obtuse gale
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I do not, I am not from wherever that's a stereotype in

latent dirge
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But your name is Emily

small peak
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damn convance chatting now

latent dirge
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that's the access code

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mason ikr

small peak
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convance for admin 2022

prisma wave
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ratio

latent dirge
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counter-ratio

compact perchBOT
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Hey son,

Why can’t you hear a pterodactyl go to the bathroom? The p is silent.

prisma wave
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Poor effort

compact perchBOT
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Hey son,

What did the digital clock say to the grandfather clock? Look, no hands!

static zealot
latent dirge
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Blitz how old are you?

static zealot
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yes

prisma wave
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Fucking

latent dirge
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decent answer

static zealot
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Fucking Old

prisma wave
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I hate setting up pterodactyl

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I've done it so many times

static zealot
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:))

prisma wave
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And it is so shit

small peak
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he said hes 40

boreal needle
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is it that bad?

latent dirge
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it's terrodactil

static zealot
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I've mentioned it a bit earlier Convace. I am exactly 116

latent dirge
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oh

prisma wave
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It's fine

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It's just boring after the 50th time

static zealot
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BM, that's why you make Piggy do it for you

prisma wave
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The install process is very simple

static zealot
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the update process is quite simple nowadays as well.

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which is nice

boreal needle
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i hate it
its fine
thonk

prisma wave
prisma wave
latent dirge
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Am I the only one here who thinks you are talking about actual dinosaurs?

prisma wave
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yeah we are

latent dirge
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oh

static zealot
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well he did get it from me like 3 times. well excluding all the problem fixing after that

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:))

latent dirge
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imagine
talking

static zealot
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guys I need you to make a decision for me. yes or no?

latent dirge
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yes

static zealot
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ok then. I'm not going to class tomorrow.

latent dirge
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Oh

prisma wave
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good

latent dirge
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well, that isn't smart

small peak
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let's fail out of college together

static zealot
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I believe its quite smart. I need my 3 hours of meditation in the morning. that's what a real grinder does

latent dirge
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I'm mad tho, I got an A- on my chem test, my grade went from 104% to 101% 😦

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only about 4 questions were hard

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from the 36

prisma wave
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American education system is so fucking stupid

latent dirge
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yes i agree

prisma wave
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How do you get more than 100%

latent dirge
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extra credit

prisma wave
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stupid

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it should max at 100%

latent dirge
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well he gives it because people get 70 percents on his tests

static zealot
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btw @prisma wave I want to thank you. You are the reason this channel, and server exists.

latent dirge
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it's Advanced Chemistry but he writes the tests like AP Chemistry because he is the board of education in science at our school and the AP Chem teacher

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so he makes it hard for us

prisma wave
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ok so why do u get extra marks

small peak
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so just ego your classmates

static zealot
latent dirge
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because he gives extra credit bc he knows ppl need it

static zealot
small peak
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grade ratio your classmates

latent dirge
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I thought everywhere did this

prisma wave
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that is stupid

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so

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he makes the tests hard but makes them easy by giving you extra credit

prisma wave
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what???

latent dirge
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mind you, it's not a lot, and the extra credit points are worth 10x less than test points

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so yeah

latent dirge
#

and tests are worth more, a lot more

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I think they are worth 50 percent

#

If Covid wasn't here, he said it would be around 80 percent

prisma wave
#

hm

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how does one get extra credit

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isnt it just sucking the teachers dick

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(metaphorically or literally)

latent dirge
#

complete his extra credit assignment, or answer a hard question on a test he set for extra credit

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usually it's one question

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and requires thinking and inference

static zealot
#

still confused as to how your extra 4% helps.

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like why do you need 104%?

prisma wave
#

yeah i still dont get it

latent dirge
#

because if i screw up I get some leeway from getting below an A

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my parents are arab, I cannot get below an A

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I get questioned if my A is 94 percent

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ffs

prisma wave
#

just make 100% the max and then make better tests

static zealot
#

oh. ok. that's actually cool. I Can get 200% on an exam and just get 0% on another and it would be 100%

latent dirge
#

no?

static zealot
#

ez class passing

latent dirge
#

the max extra credit per test is only 1 point

#

really

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and most teachers don't even do it

static zealot
#

how much in % is 1 point?

latent dirge
#

like 0.3

static zealot
#

well then how do you get 104%?

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if max is 100.3%?

latent dirge
#

no

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for the tests it's like 100.5%

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multiple tests and a few extra credit assignments gets u that

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104%

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he sometimes does extra credit worksheets

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but they are worth about 15% for that 5 pts extra credit

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15 percent of total cardmarking grade

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They are graded as homework but as 0/5

obtuse gale
#

0xDEADBEEF > Monoids

static zealot
#

idk man. 104% makes no sense to me. but tbh, its not any better here. we got exams, and they're the only things that matter but you also get assignments that they score and I never understood why. bcz no teacher increased my exam score.

latent dirge
#

oof

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I'm still in highschool, 10th grade

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If I was in the UK next year I would be going to college

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but it's 11th grade for me

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next year

static zealot
#

like here teachers can just refuse to let you take the exam completely

latent dirge
#

lmao what?

prisma wave
#

how i long for the extinction of the united states

static zealot
#

yeah... I Guess that's what presence and assignments are for.

#

knowing if you're worthy for the exam or something xD

static zealot
prisma wave
#

good

small peak
#

russia wants our land

latent dirge
#

homework here is practice for the exam, our school abolished grading homework for points but rather they grade it for effort, They believe rewarding the effort and not the grade (for homework only) helps improve test scores because people would be motivated to do better (something called intrusive motivation or something)

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college is different tho, here in college your homework will be graded

small peak
#

they're gonna scalp your oil

static zealot
#

what oil? it was already scalped

latent dirge
#

bro can't we just /spawn oil

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like ffs MC is so ahead of the game

static zealot
latent dirge
#

yes

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That's y my motivation is Rockefeller, become rich by abusing the poor, and say it's easy

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and if you fail, it's you who failed not the system failing you

^^ sarcasm (Had to explain because Emilys exist)

small peak
#

sell chickens like emily

latent dirge
#

bro?

static zealot
#

what?

latent dirge
#

major capitalist in the US, held the biggest monopoly on oil, literally exploited workers

static zealot
#

ok

latent dirge
#

well this was during the early 1900s

static zealot
#

never heard of him

small peak
#

i n d u s t r i a l r e v o l u t i o n

latent dirge
#

yes

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Did u ever hear of Chase bank?

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He was another guy like rockefeller but they was competing. Rockefeller vs J.P. Morgan

static zealot
latent dirge
#

many americans have debt to Chase bank

small peak
#

Jay to the Pee Morgan

latent dirge
#

yes

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oh i forgot the initials lol

prisma wave
#

Pee XD

latent dirge
#

I got banned on someone's twitch

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so weird

static zealot
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cool

obtuse gale
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ok

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i hold the biggest monopoly

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i am trump

small peak
#

blitz skips history class

latent dirge
#

I said

I have your IP
then got banned, but i didn't get to write the punch line
I Pee on you

static zealot
#

absolutely. especially when it is US History class.

obtuse gale
#

blitz is still in highschool

boreal needle
#

blitz is 114

latent dirge
#

Blitz exposed he lives in the US?

static zealot
#

correct you are not my boy

latent dirge
#

only americans take US history

static zealot
#

exactly

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that's why I'm skipping it

obtuse gale
#

16 yo blitz

static zealot
#

I don't take it

latent dirge
#

hmm

latent dirge
#

^ A very handsome man

latent dirge
prisma wave
#

yes

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specifically CheckItemExpansion

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threaten the authors with violence unless they fix it

latent dirge
#

so it's the devs fault not the placeholder's?

prisma wave
#

i mean it could also be user error

latent dirge
#

bc this is the placeholder: %checkitem_remove_mat:LEATHER_HELMET,amt:1,data:0,enchantments:minecraft:protection:10lminecraft:unbreaking:10,enchanted:true,nbt:STRING:CustomArmor:SunkistlINTEGER:Damage:0%

prisma wave
#

yeah

latent dirge
#

i think it might be the 10l

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but the parse to see the data of the item said that

sweet cipher
#

Probably the commas

latent dirge
#

When he did /papi parse me %checkitem_remove_mat:LEATHER_HELMET,amt:1,data:0,enchantments:minecraft:protection:10lminecraft:unbreaking:10,enchanted:true,nbt:STRING:CustomArmor:SunkistlINTEGER:Damage:0% it removed the item tho

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so I think the placeholder is fine

boreal needle
#

would someone be willing to help me out with testing something?

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just need two people to jump on a server and send a pm

latent dirge
#

what version

onyx loom
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i can

boreal needle
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18.2

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cc.lulu.gdn

latent dirge
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my laptop cant

steel heart
#

oh

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I was on 22w11a

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1 seec

static zealot
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also that photo uses a | not an l I'm pretty sure

latent dirge
#

okay

static zealot
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but in checkitem you actually don't use | to split

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you use ; I believe

latent dirge
#

oh i see

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i skipped over it

static zealot
#

...

wind patio
#

Is there a reliable and simple way to test whether the plugin works from X to Y version?

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without manually recompiling it on X to Y paper api

inner umbra
wind patio
#

Yeah, well, that's what I'm doing too

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and it's quite tedious

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so I'm looking for a better way to do that

inner umbra
wind patio
#

cuz I'm lazy

inner umbra
#

The most tedious part is I have to make a backup of the world in 1.8.8 and use that to go back in versions because worlds don't have backwards compatability.

wind patio
#

I just have this

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and a batch script to automatically copy the plugins_%version% to plugins and start the specific jar

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and I automatically build the jar inside the specified plugin folder

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saves some time, but still tedious

inner umbra
#

Mines uglier then that lol

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I just enter the version and it starts using the specified jar.

wind patio
#

but yeah, the world issue is quite annoying

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might have to do something with it like with plugins

inner umbra
#

I might make a plugin that does what viaversion does and changes newer versions blocks and data to an older version or just stone.

half harness
# wind patio

👀

I usually just test 1.8, 1.18, and maybe 1.12/1.13 and I just have a folder for each server and just change IDE configuration (that starts the server) and a string in build.gradle.kts (which copies the jar to the server plugins)

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yayy level 58

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1.8 and 1.18 should be enough testing unless you're making a low-level plugin that uses packets for ex

inner umbra
#

I test last version of each core version to make sure it all works right. I use nms so gotta make sure that works too.

#

Also tf was that sticker..... it comes up on mobile when I type "sticker" or "test"

cinder flare
#

ah classic, IDE-run server

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some day maybe you'll ascend to the docker-compose run server

cinder flare
#

god i love docker so much

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changed my life tbh

wind patio
#

d 🤮 cker

obtuse gale
#

uses docker one day

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never local tested in his life

cinder flare
#

bro docker is the best thing that literally ever happened to my devops experience

urban sleet
frail glade
#

Did someone accidentally make the repo public or something?

onyx loom
#

i cant believe theyve made it os 😌 😌 😌 😌

#

this is amazing

dawn hinge
#

I'm gonna create my own IDE!! Thanks JetBrains

old wyvern
frail glade
#

Gotcha

stuck shard
#

You got us in the first half ngl 😂

frigid badge
#

what a joke this language.

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return type void

boreal needle
#

is that ts

frigid badge
#

no php

boreal needle
#

oh

boreal needle
#

yeah nothing new then

distant sun
#

@frigid badge private void duplicateData() java 🤓

frigid badge
#

it’s weird that if you don’t write a return type it automatically is ‘mixed’ instead of void

distant sun
#

🤣

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It is php after all

frigid badge
#

yeah, I mean it makes sense to be backwards compatible

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since they used to not have strict typing at all

obtuse gale
#

Santa we’ve failed

white bear
#

Um hello, where can I ask some questions about C++?

quiet depot
white bear
#

Thanks!

timber oak
#

Best economy API for 1.18 and later?

boreal needle
#

vault is kinda the standard

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its not particularly feature packed but it is literally everywhere

timber oak
#

I guess that's helpful if I decide to add other plugins on the server that needs to work with the economy

brittle leaf
#

vault is just the bridge, it doesnt actually handle the economy.

prisma wave
boreal needle
#

we don't care how it does it, only what it does

brittle leaf
#

its just the bridge

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if you want your economy to be useable in other plugins then vault would be a good thing to use

cinder flare
#

sounds straight from the American South circa 1950

boreal needle
#

i think its like anything

cinder flare
#

huh

boreal needle
#

anything is a subtype of mixed

obtuse gale
frigid badge
steel heart
#

So basically it'd be like returning Object type in Java?

boreal needle
#

or a primitive, yeah

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or just flat out not returning

steel heart
#

oh

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thats grotesque and cool

prisma wave
obtuse gale
#

I wish you could’ve pulled thru for me

#

As the voice of purple monkey

unique field
#

Is it possible to create more than one custom exceptions WITHOUT constructor, in same class?

boreal needle
#

what does that mean?

unique field
# boreal needle what does that mean?
class customExceptions extends Exception{
      public void maxInputException(String passMe) {
        super(passMe);
      }
      public void maxMultiplierReachedException(String passMe) {
          super(passMe);
      }
}

I want to make my customExceptions class, and I should be able to call these predefined custom exceptions methods anywhere in the code

boreal needle
#

ah

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an exception is just a class

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you could have static subclasses if you really wanted to

#
public class CustomExceptions {
  public static class ExampleException extends Exception { }
public static class OtherExampleException extends Exception { } 
}```
unique field
#

ooooooo ty

#

so I have to define different (sub)classes for each exception?

boreal needle
#

yeah

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an exception is just a fancy class

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do watch your naming conventions though, classes should be PascalCase

unique field
#

Thanks for taking your time to respond back to me mate, I really appreciate your effort. Have a great day.
I'll fix my naming conventions also xD

distant sun
#

@ocean quartz

static zealot
#

gaby. why?

ocean quartz
#

Mood

distant sun
#

Why

static zealot
#

definitely not biased answer incoming

ocean quartz
#

Nah, libraries make your life much easier, definitely use it
Only do it all yourself if you want to learn or if what is provided isn't good enough

heavy hill
ocean quartz
heavy hill
ocean quartz
heavy hill
#

Thanks you very much

main condor
#

Hello my account got disabled and idk why

inner umbra
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main condor
#

oh

steel heart
#

@prisma wave you ready for round two? Could have skipped the Swedish class we did nothing interesting anyways but yeah here’s my final say

Semantically Optional and null do not lead to much difference in terms of you’d check for null and the safety is roughly the same if you write carefully enough, but that’s subjective.

Then about your argument that it enforces explicit thinking, for me at least it hasn’t really done that or well given me that sort of mind set, not on a significant level at least, if it does that for you then optional might suit for you Ig.

When it comes to kotlin yes you achieve roughly the same semantics not exactly for instance chaining would require map or flatMap as opposed to just ?

old wyvern
#

Well yes, but essentially the same

prisma wave
#

Semantically Optional and null do not lead to much difference in terms of you’d check for null and the safety is roughly the same if you write carefully enough, but that’s subjective.
The point of compile time null safety is to force you to write carefully enough

When it comes to kotlin yes you achieve roughly the same semantics not exactly for instance chaining would require map or flatMap as opposed to just ?
Sure the method names are slightly different but the process and behaviour are pretty much the exact same

old wyvern
#

The only bad side would be when you have to null-check your reference to the optional itself

prisma wave
#

thats very bad though

old wyvern
#

Yes

prisma wave
#

not a problem of optionals

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just shitty code

steel heart
#

Yeah I mean presuming Optional<X> is not null is probably a standard so ye

prisma wave
#

it is

old wyvern
#

I'm speaking just in terms of compile-time validation

prisma wave
#

yes

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the documentation of Optional says that it should never itself be null

steel heart
#

The point of compile time null safety is to force you to write carefully enough
Which in my experience works just fine with @NotNull and @Nullable, you can be just as careful without using Optional literally

prisma wave
#

but overall optional > null because it provides compile time safety, therefore making NPE-related errors pretty much impossible

lunar cypress
steel heart
#

Guess that’s where we disagree shrug

lunar cypress
#

that's the point

steel heart
#

you can just != null?

lunar cypress
#

same with any other constraint system

old wyvern
#

Hask-

lunar cypress
#

for example type systems

#

you can make the same argument there

steel heart
#

I mean the way for instance Scala handles it is probably also more ideal

lunar cypress
#

and both sides have points

prisma wave
#

scala has an Option monad which is literally the exact same as optional

lunar cypress
#

as i said

#

same with type systems

#

they're there so certain things about your program can be proven automatically

#

sure we can agree that we don't need this proof because we can simply check at runtime where necessary

#

that's the proposition of dynamic typing

steel heart
lunar cypress
#

?

#

i don't understand what you mean by that

prisma wave
#

yeah what does that mean

#

it doesnt change state

steel heart
#

Well let me clarify, you still don’t know if the actual value is null or not unless you check that regardless if you use optional or just null

lunar cypress
#

there is no null

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with optional

#

that's the idea

steel heart
#

Obviously?

lunar cypress
#

so you do know that the actual value will not be null

#

if that weren't the case it would be utterly pointless

steel heart
#

Yes but my point is that even if you use null or Optional, you’d still have to check if the actual value is present. Optional::isPresent or ::ifPresent conversely != null

lunar cypress
#

it's different

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because the null check is (pun not intended) optional

steel heart
#

wym by pun?

lunar cypress
#

if you have a program with optionals that compiles you know null is handled

prisma wave
#

writing get() or isPresent with optionals is often a bit of a code smell anyway, you're probably not using them to their full potential if that's what you're doing

steel heart
#

And you’d end up with the no such element error

lunar cypress
#

this is a smell of java's implementation specifically, but even then this person wrote this code

prisma wave
#

"thing is bad because sometimes people are stupid and don't understand how to use it"?

steel heart
#

Yeah Johnny I agree

lunar cypress
#

it is technically a way to handle an absent value

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although get should never be used

#

i think gosling wrote about this a bit

steel heart
prisma wave
#

ok?

steel heart
#

yes?

lunar cypress
#

they're not enforceable at all

prisma wave
#

yeah

lunar cypress
#

i do think that's the wrong way to look at it anyway though

prisma wave
#

the only possible check you get is maybe an IDE warning

#

if you're lucky

steel heart
steel heart
prisma wave
#

the original argument was that Optional is a better way of handling nullability / non-present values than the JB annotations

steel heart
#

Yea in which I still believe they’re both equally bad

#

But that’s what I think

prisma wave
#

💀

steel heart
prisma wave
#

optional has enforceability, can actually prove that programs behave correctly, and allows more concise code without boilerplate

#

how are they equally bad

#

jb annotations have none of those

remote goblet
#

i like optional's blush_peepo_2

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if its not obvious Susge

#

god that would look so much better in java 16 emotenoooo

steel heart
prisma wave
#

lmao

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dude

#

just take the L

onyx loom
#

💀💀

prisma wave
#

we're making actual convincing points

#

thats not circlejerk

steel heart
#

Breh

ocean quartz
#

You can at least make it a bit better with some IDE setting changes

old wyvern
steel heart
#

As already said just blindly invoking get would compile fine

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And could still explode

prisma wave
#

yeah and if you do that, it's a you problem

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not an optional problem

steel heart
#

Yes so therefore you’d for instance use isPresent, which is not much different from != null

prisma wave
#

Sure, it's the same process

#

Except normally you'd also be doing some processing with map etc

steel heart
#

Yeah

lunar cypress
#

I can foo.bar() on a nullable foo

prisma wave
#

But the important thing is that with optionals you know that the code will behave correctly

steel heart
#

or the monad flatMap

lunar cypress
#

i cannot foo.bar() on an optional foo

prisma wave
#

Exactly

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I said this earlier

#

There is a clear difference

steel heart
#

Rather insignificant still imo, as aforementioned when I used optional the explicit writing of get didn’t really enhance anything at all, but I get that it might do for you

prisma wave
#

Because using get() is bad

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It's like !! in kotlin

steel heart
#

It is ideally yeah

prisma wave
#

If you just use get all the time you're doing it wrong

steel heart
#

Tho kotlin has ?

old wyvern
prisma wave
#

And optional has map, so what?

lunar cypress
#

again, no matter how badly you use optionals, you still have to go out of your way to use them

#

in some way or another

prisma wave
#

exactly

steel heart
#

it’s roughly the same but you can use directly on nullable stuff

prisma wave
#

It's an active decision to call get, whereas accidentally doing foo.bar on nullable foo seems fine

old wyvern
remote goblet
#

its crazy how ive been a dev for almost 4 years and i am still fuckin clueless on most of the conversions that go on here

steel heart
#

Well you can use map directly on a variable with Type? for instance

prisma wave
#

what

lunar cypress
#

i do prefer kotlin's idea because it is a union and therefore supports the constraint semantics you would expect, e.g. T being a subtype of T?

prisma wave
#

sure yeah

#

kotlin does it better

#

But optional is still leagues above nullable variables

static zealot
#

all we wanted to hear

steel heart
#

Lmao

prisma wave
#

No circlejerking here

old wyvern
#

C# 7+(?) has similar operators and types that compile to their Optional counterpart (called Nullable there)

steel heart
#

Yeah

#

C# does a great job also

prisma wave
#

every modern language has some sort of compile time null safety

#

Because it's good

lunar cypress
#

i mean java optionals kinda suck in other ways too, not just the inherent trade off of putting something like that in the user space but also in that it's not supposed to be used for parameters

prisma wave
#

Better than having nullable variables everywhere with nothing but an annotation to stop you from crashing

prisma wave
#

I don't really see the reasoning behind that

lunar cypress
#

conventions

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idioms

prisma wave
#

ok so nothing 😏

#

But yea

#

Vavr relieved

lunar cypress
#

i might actually give scala another go at some point

steel heart
#

Scala good 😌

prisma wave
#

scala 3 seems cool for sure

prisma wave
#

go has the best null safety

#

by far

old wyvern
#

How so?

prisma wave
#

There isn't any

old wyvern
#

ah 😌

#

Good ol go with nothing

prisma wave
#

Just like the good old days!!

steel heart
#

So how does go handle absent values?

old wyvern
#

Nil

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Which is

#

null

steel heart
#

How does that justify null safety

prisma wave
#

no annotations, no optionals

old wyvern
#

There isnt any

steel heart
#

Or well nil safety

prisma wave
#

Just good old if val != nil everywhere!!

old wyvern
prisma wave
#

programmers today need a million abstractions just to write a hello world!!

old wyvern
#

Returning errors 🤤

prisma wave
#

defer might be the weirdest language feature ever

#

It's so odd

old wyvern
#

defer functions everywhere 🤤

steel heart
old wyvern
lunar cypress
#

if err != nil moment

old wyvern
#

Go basically calls you in, and drops you off at an orphanage on the first occasion you ask for something in hopes someone else provides it 😌

prisma wave
#

in conclusion

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the best language

#

is

#

h

old wyvern
#

a

prisma wave
#

s

old wyvern
#

k

prisma wave
#

e

old wyvern
#

l

steel heart
#

Haskel#?