Yeah
#dev-general
timber oak
Hmm I think I'll just focus more on using DI instead of passing one dependency, as the main class and just using getters from there
I've actually overused it a lot
timber oak
Okay so I have a class where I use the main dependency to get 3 other dependencies, but the class is only about 100 lines. So should I really pass all 3 dependencies through the constructor or just keep using the 3 getters?
steel heart
What type of class is it
steel heart
BRB need to eat :3
timber oak
aight
timber oak
My main class is a lot cleaner now https://paste.helpch.at/baqilepiki.java
steel heart
oo
yeah
im backl
but like valdemar
I was thinking whilst enthusiastically eating
here are some reasons we avoid this class that is a dependency of every other class:
- It gets really hard to see what our classes really depend on
- It sometimes gets hard to reuse the code as that plugin instance always has to be passed
- (Harder to unit test)
timber oak
I was thinking whilst enthusiastically eating
lmao
timber oak
here are some reasons we avoid this class that is a dependency of every other cl...
Yeah this is the main reason why I dont like it
- It gets really hard to see what our classes really depend on
I guess 3 instances are better than the main class instance then, right?
steel heart
yeah
like I can add you to a project I work on
if you want some sort of image how it might look without
half harness
https://i.imgur.com/djEIQbG.png 🤔 should I just renew it in jetbrains or wait for github dev pack to expire?
ocean quartz
Jetbrains is a little better at keeping track of it than github
My JB license expired like 2 years before the gh did 
half harness
My JB license expired like 2 years before the gh did <:kek:867924937728483419>
wait what
👀
ig ill just renew jetbrains license then 🥲
although i thought github required a renewal each year
lol
oh its every 2 years
whoops
ez 😌
now time to do the same with unity
half harness
1 year actually, from JB
nono i meant github
also
is unity still in dev pack
🥺
i can't find
D:
ocean quartz
Yeah that's what I mean, github student expired 1 year after jb student for me
half harness
is unity still in dev pack
nvm
and re-apply on or after your expiration date.
quaint isle
For a uni course, we have to analyze an open source project. Explore the architecture (modules, what's communicating with what etc.)
Do you know any cool projects that would be fun to look into? I was thinking OBS / Open Broadcast Software could be interesting. Any other ideas?
dense dew
ShareX is fine ig
sweet cipher
Sending 1 packet with 1 player online every tick shouldn't cause lag right?
(Using ProtocolLib)
main prawn
dense dew
Sending 1 packet with 1 player online every tick shouldn't cause lag right?
doubt it
obtuse gale
the game sends many more packets to many more players in smaller timeframes
you'll be fineeee
humble silo
How long did it take for other people to got copilot? Are they still doing pre-releases? Ive been on the waitlist since october and nothing
sweet cipher
the game sends many more packets to many more players in smaller timeframes
It’s causing lag already lol.
forest pecan
It’s causing lag already lol.
which packet you sending lol
if its a large ass packet then maybe
distant sun
string = string.replace("\u00A7", "&"); // Replace § with &
string = argsRegex.matcher(string).replaceAll("%$1%");```
Is there any way to do these replacements without re-assigning the `string`?StringBuilder?
Strings aren’t supposed to be mutable so I don’t see it being possible
You can possibly use reflection
oblique heath
is there a way to change the root directory for a server
so that i don't need to have the server jar in the same directory as the world files, configs, etc
inner umbra
Just change the startup command to the location of your jar.
half harness
is there a way to change the root directory for a server
yes
that
i was too slow ☹️
half harness
how would i go about doing that
if you have a .bat file for ex it'd be bat java -jar folder/where/jar/is/server.jar and the file structure is ```
world/etc
plugins/etc
folder/
where/
jar/
is/
server.jar
im 99% sure that should work
oblique heath
thank you dkim, i was drawing a blank for a moment there
half harness
np 🥰
oblique heath
it's working for me right now
oblique heath
the working directory is where the server files will be created
oblique heath
you're good, no worries
versed ridge
My sincerest apologies, I hope I can be forgiven
quiet depot
i'll think about it
humble silo
Is it bad form to create your own file systems in java? By that i mean actually implementing the FileSystem interface and stuff... I want to create paths from URI's(like referencing a jar online) and that seems to be the only way to do it
oblique heath
does java only let you specify memory limits with 2^x units like kb, mb, gb? or can it also use (10^3)^x units like kib, mib, gib
to follow that up, can kubernetes use something besides (10^3)^x units like kib, mib, gib 🥲
obtuse gale
Is it bad form to create your own file systems in java? By that i mean actually ...
I'm fairly certain you can instantiate different kinds of FileSystem, I know you can e.g. have one pointing inside a zip file and traverse it with it
humble silo
I'm fairly certain you can instantiate different kinds of FileSystem, I know you...
well i know you can do it, just wondering if it is a bad idea... I think for now im just gonna have my thing downloading the artifacts it needs to some temp directory just so everything doesnt get messy, but i kinda wanna look at it in the future
obtuse gale
Why is it a bad idea?
I'm not saying to extend it and "create your own"
But get one
humble silo
I'm not saying to extend it and "create your own"
they dont have one implemented for my purposes 😦
They dont support http or https
as far as i can tell
cursive breach
dev general moment
shh
obtuse gale
smh
languid prawn
hiii guys i need help.
i want to make a spawn.yml file on using a command /setspawn
prisma wave
ok
indigo patrol
Hey
sly sonnet
rancid gazelle
just finished confirguring food, farming, ores, and mob drops shop ;-; took 2 hrs smh
not even half way
static zealot
Anyone that uses Nautilus is there a way to navigate folders in a terminal using cd and then open a gui directly in that folder?
so for example I open a terminal I do cd Downloads and then somehow do nautilus and it would open directly in Downloads and not in home?
ah
its literally just nautilus .
timber oak
What's best for a portfolio, being a dev in a big freelancing team or a server with about 200 active players?
steel heart
Former I’d say
timber oak
Former?
oblique heath
why not both
timber oak
I don't have the time for both at the same time
split sail
Above link is my message link with a scammer who looted away all my axies & funds from my Ronin Wallet by phishing. This profile is spamming everyone looting all their assets of Axie Infinity games players. Can we know the person behind these anyway? I complained at Ronin support team & also cyber crime portal. Pls help
languid prawn
guys does anyone know how to refresh scoreboard
regal moon
Plz anyone can tell how can i add command on an playerEvent?
distant sun
Hm?
regal moon
?
It mean if player usr that command, so playerEvent get trigger
In this case i am using player damage event and also velocity event
distant sun
regal moon
Did u not understand or something else?
distant sun
No, I do not, sorry
regal moon
Ok, so can you tell me that, if player type /<command> he get knockback
?
Now did you understand?
Plz
oblique heath
kai
regal moon
Yes
oblique heath
are you saying you want players to be able to toggle whether or not things happen to them after they run a command
regal moon
No, like did u know clutch plugin?
regal moon
Well it does that, just player type command and get knockback without damage. And he has to just clutch with blocks
I am new so i dont know things
oblique heath
so you want the player to be launched into the air when they run a command?
regal moon
Ye
oblique heath
that's pretty straightforward
all you have to do is set the player's velocity to whatever you want it to be
oblique heath
by setting the y component of the velocity
oblique heath
no problem 👍
regal moon
Are u dev?
oblique heath
i develop, yes
oblique heath
nice, keep at it
oblique heath
i took classes on java in high school
regal moon
gg
oblique heath
and am now taking various programming and similar classes in uni
but i'm also teaching myself a lot of things to fill in the gaps
regal moon
U pro
oblique heath
not yet but hopefully soon 🥲
regal moon
U will
oblique heath
thanks lol
half harness
ivan = pro
wind patio
if I have a method call inside an async scheduler
the method is processed by it?
or main thread?
half harness
if I have a method call inside an async scheduler
if you call a method async, then the code in the method will also be ran async
long dagger
I have a question for how bedwars plugins operate, do they have a single server per game, so the bedwars plugin only handles one game, or is it world based. and which one is better/easier/more efficient?
wintry plinth
Smaller scale it’s done per world I would assume, and at a larger scale done per server
dense dew
ivan = pro
ivan is AI if you dont know btw
half harness
o.o
oblique heath
ivan is AI if you dont know btw
who told you
obtuse gale
long dagger
Smaller scale it’s done per world I would assume, and at a larger scale done per...
do you know about Hypixel?
static zealot
do you know about Hypixel?
They do make new servers for each game
static zealot
but that's hypixel... with 80k-100k players on daily
long dagger
yeah
static zealot
I think they create and delete instances dynamically as well
yeah they do
pretty sure they posted dev blogs on their forums about this. so if you're willing to search you might find those interesting
long dagger
I am building a network, and I am trying to make it as easy as possible to scale and contract the network
static zealot
well you could just google hypixel dev blog # (# is a number) and you'll find quite a few of their blogs explaining a lot of interesting stuff
long dagger
alright
static zealot
damn. the old version of ivan was dumb af
long dagger
Also, does Hypixel run their own fork of a spigot server?
or a least a custom version of minecraft?
static zealot
Also, does Hypixel run their own fork of a spigot server?
a very very modified version yes
and a 1.7.10 version as well
oblique heath
I am building a network, and I am trying to make it as easy as possible to scale...
i've been looking into the same thing, the best way to scale dynamically is to use containers to deploy servers, then manage them with an orchestration tool like kubernetes
this will let you launch new minecraft instances across multiple physical machines and even into the cloud, all while keeping that layer hidden from the plugin perspective
theres also some special made minecraft server managers that use this stuff like pterodactyl panel i believe
half harness
https://i.imgur.com/XyCqQRq.png
suggestion: add this button to @ruby crater
thorny garden
whats the EnumParticle for 1.17.1
quiet depot
https://i.imgur.com/XyCqQRq.png
suggestion: add this button to <@!78935878064616...
how
ocean quartz
Seems to be automatically added to all verified public bots
Actually no need to be verified just public
ocean quartz
how
Ah nvm it's not automatic, on the dev panel go to oauth2, on the authorization method do "in-app authorization"
marble plaza
Hey! Does anyone know how to load my plugin last, after all other plugins? I'm trying to create "server startup commands" plugin so when everything is loaded correctly, then plugin runs some commands.
Or maybe some event I could use...
distant sun
Schedule a task, I think they are only run once the server is done loading
marble plaza
Ahhaa, nice, did not know such thing existed. Thank you!
distant sun
Np
distant sun
clever rain
help
i need helo
someonepls
my mic aint workin when im on a call
but generallyt works
who do i tag?
@everyone
loud gyroBOT
The 'everyone' mention is disabled so you can't annoy people.
wintry plinth
?not-discord
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clever rain
doesnt help
static zealot
that's not a suggestion. that's telling you this is not discord support. if you want support from them you should probably contact them thru: https://support.discord.com
clever rain
then wha ti s this
static zealot
rancid gazelle
What premium plugins does HelpChat have/own?
static zealot
What premium plugins does HelpChat have/own?
none. Clip however has like 3 and then Glare has 2 of his own. (those 2 are admins here. they're not owned by helpchat tho). There's other community members that have premium plugins and use helpchat as a help server but those are not related with helpchat.
rancid gazelle
none. Clip however has like 3 and then Glare has 2 of his own. (those 2 are admi...
What r they?
static zealot
AutoSell, DeluxeChat and EzRanksPro. He also used to have MineCrates but that one is not maintained anymore. hasn't been for 3 years now
and Glare has Guilds and VoteParty
wintry plinth
DeluxeChat 
vital pollen
having issues with the chat. %player% or %player_name% placeholders are not working
i get the prefix and tag but not the playername, is anyone able to help?
half harness
having issues with the chat. %player% or %player_name% placeholders are not work...
?player
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half harness
#placeholder-api in the future btw
distant sun
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/octotree-github-code-tree/bkhaagjahfmjljalopjnoealnfndnagc
distant sun
why does iij now know how to show the value of a constant in kotlin 🥲
and I like the final val 🤣
old wyvern
wintry plinth
There’s this guy on twitter who keeps arguing about how he wants to structure his API.
I told him to give it a rest…
oblique heath
hopefully he didn't get too graph-ic
obtuse gale
@vagrant token Can you accept my friend request?
vagrant token
oak raft
ruby dew
sweet cipher
Can packets be sent async?
oblique heath
actually maybe you do send packets sync
i'm not sure how mc packets work but if you expect any sort of response you shouldn't send them on the main thread
however if they're only sent in 1 direction and you dont want a reply you can send them sync
oblique heath
it probably doesn't matter much either way (if you dont need a response) tbh unless you're sending an inordinate amount of packets
sweet cipher
It uses ProtocolLib if that makes a difference
The runnable seems to take up a lot of the tick in the timings report
oblique heath
try sending it async and see if it helps the timings
thats the best way to know for sure if you want to do that
sweet cipher
Okay cool, thanks for the help
I might be mis-remembering this, but I heard async tasks don't show up on timings so I'm going to see if I am doing anything else dumb first
oblique heath
they likely won't since they don't run on the main thread
which is good as that also means they can't waste server tick time
sweet cipher
Yeah
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primal crystal
Hey... Has any one tried SSHJ or JSCH for SFTP Transfers?
Or something that works?
obtuse gale
obtuse gale
Used to annotate a constructor/factory parameter to indicate that returned object (X) will close the resource when X is closed.
basically something like uh a new InputStreamReader(in) or a new BufferedWriter(writer) etc, when you close those, in and writer are also closed
prisma wave
Can packets be sent async?
the idea of a main thread doesnt really exist once you get to that point
it's all async, just using the netty thread pool
stoic plover
hey
urban sleet
How much do you guys think would be a fair amount for a world generation plugin just to spawn flowers on the world surface?
Ping please
foggy pond
Opinions on this particle I made? It works similarly to how redstone dust does, where it can have any color you want.
It's not exactly a showcase, just looking for some feedback as I am not sure if maybe each frame should last less/more, or if the particle itself just doesnt look good idk
prisma wave
kinda looks like butterflies
round parcel
anyone know how can i get the deluxechat thing?
sick belfry
Opinions on this particle I made? It works similarly to how redstone dust does, ...
looks fucking cool, I'm still discovering on how to do them 🙃
round parcel
can any staff give me the role to deluxechat?
foggy pond
looks fucking cool, I'm still discovering on how to do them 🙃
I mean I am using the fabric api
foggy pond
kinda looks like butterflies
Yeah, probably also because for some reason frame 4 would play at the beginning of the animation which made it look weird
sick belfry
I mean I am using the fabric api
oh though it was using an rp, really cool tho
sweet cipher
the idea of a main thread doesnt really exist once you get to that point
https://paste.helpch.at/orabigigam.java
Does it make sense that this causes lag?
With 3 people online
prisma wave
server lag or client lag?
because that's still a task that's gonna take at least a few milliseconds running multiple times every tick
you should be able to run it async
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eternal compass
yeah, assuming that doesn't work you need to link
and if you are linked, then wait for the next db update
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1d 10h 16m
14h 53m 52s
23h 27m 53s
102d 18h 6m
23h 27m 58s
1d 10h 16m
sweet cipher
server lag or client lag?
Server, I switched to async
pastel imp
Minecrates 102d lol
cinder flare
Is there a list anywhere of what dependencies Spigot/Paper expose to plugins? Like JDBC and stuff
quiet depot
not that I'm aware of but ij can show you
cinder flare
ooh how
quiet depot
go to the gradle tab
dependencies
then go to spigot
and you can expand spigot's dependency tree
oh, that'll only work for the api actually
cinder flare
looks like apache commons, gson, guava, and snakeyaml?
quiet depot
yeah that's what the api provides but I forgot there's more in the server jar
quiet depot
your best bet would be to look at the pom yourself
I don't think there's much else you can do
I lied
depend on spigot (nms) through maven local then you can use ij's dependency thing to see what it provides
pastel imp
Is this actually worth to do/use?
(Not the plugin, just the way it stores data since it is outdated)
oblique heath
not worth it
at that point just use a database
databases are also 'centralized' the way that claims to be, but they are indexed and can be traversed much much faster than straight files like that seems to use
wintry plinth
Honestly I like the idea of this, having one place, my trouble comes down to if you wanted to reset a particicular plugin then you're kinda fucked, and as Ivan said you basically have a db for that "centralised" purpose
oblique heath
it's also making a bunch of really weird claims that i can't imagine are actually true
like it's purpose being 'to save storage space' - even though all it does is keep data in one file instead of spreading it across several - i guess you're saving inodes but not any significant amount
wintry plinth
Yeah 😂 you aren't saving file space really
Just one less file
which is what, 1kb if that
oblique heath
yeah lmao
and any extremely marginal benefits you might see from the reduction in file count would be offset by all of the boilerplate data stored in this central system, like plugin namespaces in json being tracked for every individual player
wintry plinth
Yeah 😂
pastel imp
at that point just use a database
Database you mean like mongo, MySQL etc?
This one also seems cool. Although it’s only flatfiles
ocean quartz
What in the world
steel heart
Yeah it will always be private, can’t be reassigned to public, duh /s
pastel imp
What in the world
Is that in simplixstorage? Xd
ocean quartz
Yeah it's in the screenshot in the page
distant sun
lombok 🥲
distant sun
wait what
distant sun
bruh
ocean quartz
I love that sometimes it's final Type other it's val, very consistent
distant sun
is val a data type?
ocean quartz
It's the same as var
But works on Java 8 cuz Lombok will just compile it to final Type
distant sun
ah thats what you meant
ocean quartz
Ah yeah xD
wintry plinth
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/simplixstorage-awesome-library-to-store-data-...
See I think flatfile works perfect for everything, only time I'd say use a db is if you want to display stats on your website
pastel imp
According to them, it’s enterprise level xd
wintry plinth
Otherwise flatfile, sqlite etc works amazingly even for larger sites or servers
pastel imp
See I think flatfile works perfect for everything, only time I'd say use a db is...
Or cross server stuff lol
wintry plinth
ye aha
pastel imp
Couldn’t you still not use a database for cross server stuff?
Can’t you like, use websockets or something like that
wintry plinth
technically yeah
pastel imp
Between servers
wintry plinth
Yeah aha, redis pubsub is like websockets, allows you to send a message across
pastel imp
Oh k
wintry plinth
then receive on other end for example
pastel imp
Ye you would receive it and store it in a flatfile in that server itself
wintry plinth
https://twitter.com/levelsio this guy uses sqlite for everything and his sites make tons 😂 its comical because he doesn't stick to normal methods
Twitter
Like he doesn't use autoscaling etc
wintry plinth
So with websites you can set it up so it uses maybe little to no ram cpu etc, and then when more visitors come, it automatically adds more ram etc, until its no longer needed
But services like this often cost money, sometimes its more affordable if your site is inactive for half the day
dim marsh
hello, i need help with something shuld i jsut ask my question here or someone pm?
idk if im the correcet place even 😛
wintry plinth
wintry plinth
I like the concept, but I'd personally probably only apply that type of logic if I was building a custom server, because if only half your plugins convert, its pointless
oblique heath
Database you mean like mongo, MySQL etc?
yes
pastel imp
I like the concept, but I'd personally probably only apply that type of logic if...
Uh, I dont think we are speaking about the same plugin
I wasnt speaking about coredata
Simplixstorage is the one that lets you store data in json, yaml and toml
distant sun
what do you even want to do?
pastel imp
Uh, store data?
I am looking for a general purpose storage api
Found simplixstorage, which got my attention
distant sun
I personally use sqlite whenever I can and it fits my needs
pastel imp
I would use it in most if not all my plugins.
distant sun
LuckPerms for instance, uses H2 for flat storage (or.. yaml)
distant sun
pastel imp
So, I am better off using sqlite in your opinion?
Aka mysql too since they are almost the same
In terms of usage
wintry plinth
SQLite is amazing if you dont need a database
distant sun
if you want a lib for databases, there's HikariCP
wintry plinth
I personally use sqlite whenever I can and it fits my needs
Yeah this 100%, people underestimate sqlite
but for most apps its amazing
distant sun
https://github.com/brettwooldridge/HikariCP https://github.com/brettwooldridge/HikariCP#popular-datasource-class-names
ocean quartz
HikariCP + jOOQ
wintry plinth
joooq]
distant sun
exposed for java? Looks interesting
ocean quartz
Yeah pretty similar
round parcel
can any staff help me ? i dont have the deluxechat role
static zealot
can any staff help me ? i dont have the deluxechat role
when have you purchased the plugin?
round parcel
pass 24 hour
distant sun
=check @round parcel
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distant sun
there
round parcel
thank you!
distant sun
np
novel crystal
i need help
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novel crystal
my fish is not moving anymore when i came back from giving it a walk
static zealot
give it mouth to gills resuscitation
sly sonnet
Could not HEAD 'https://repo.mattstudios.me/artifactory/public/me/mattstudios/triumph-config/1.0.5-SNAPSHOT/maven-metadata.xml'. Received status code 521 from server
sly sonnet
aw shit
static zealot
use offline gradle
sly sonnet
yeah, already did that
static zealot
👍
hallow topaz
hi
hybrid wedge
I relinked my spigotmc account, but I didn't get receive for the plugin role I purchased, what should I do?
static zealot
I relinked my spigotmc account, but I didn't get receive for the plugin role I p...
what plugin did you purchase and when?
wind patio
Could not HEAD 'https://repo.mattstudios.me/artifactory/public/me/mattstudios/tr...
Could not get head? Happens bro
Stay strong
cinder flare
HikariCP + jOOQ
is JOOQ really that good? I'm doing some spicy database stuff soon and I was pondering what ORM to use
eternal compass
Yoooo golang got generics
finally
I can make an implementation of streams
so I don't have to use so many for loops
distant sun
Weak
wintry plinth
Could not get *head*? Happens bro
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obtuse gale
is JOOQ really that good? I'm doing some spicy database stuff soon and I was pon...
it's spicy! but you'll get the most advantages from it when the db is already settled/designed etc. For prototyping it kinda becomes an annoyance because you can't take full advantage of it
namely code gen
cinder flare
yeah, thoughts on Exposed?
obtuse gale
idk never used it
cinder flare
recommendations of any kind then?
obtuse gale
yeah lol
I've barely touched sql in java besides the jdbc api and jooq, but I'd trust the one made by hikari dude to be good lol
ocean quartz
Exposed is nice if you're using Kotlin
obtuse gale
I don't see myself moving out of jooq if i need to interface with db's from java again, lol
i'm also lazy to learn new technologies that are direct competitors with something I already use
lmao what is this!!! https://github.com/brettwooldridge/HikariJSON
obtuse gale
maybe? 👀
half harness
yeah, thoughts on Exposed?
btw note that it doesn't work with spigot (if you want to relocate)
cinder flare
ah it has to do with relocating Kotlin
half harness
oh
obtuse gale
man using convention plugins for multi-project gradle setups feels so bigbrain and so tidy and clean
rather than whacky ass subprojects/allprojects configuration
half harness
man using convention plugins for multi-project gradle setups feels so bigbrain a...
what are those?
half harness
oh i think i remember u mentioning it before
but
i was too lazy to look further into it
hmm
obtuse gale
it takes a tad bit to get used to it but it's so nice
eternal compass
Weak
you don't want to know how annoying it was
to not have streams
I had to have loops everywhere
filtering
and mapping
life is soo hard /s
cinder flare
yeah I'm hesitant about Go
it seems kinda cool but looks horribly ugly and annoying to write
obtuse gale
@half harness apply for dev role when
half harness
i did months ago :(((((
inner umbra
Last time it was brought up piggy just said he had been lazy so IDK if he got started on them again or not
obtuse gale
yeah he's been going through some apps lately
obtuse gale
last week at least
half harness
piggy if you see this
if i put any repos on my app
dont look at those (and dont look at bedwars)
😃
obtuse gale
xD
static zealot
he went thru some yeah. accepted and rejected some.
half harness
just looked at https://github.com/dkim19375/MagicItems and realized I still have the bin folder
🥲 🥲
(dont look at that either)
ah, back when i didn't use kts
🤢
distant sun
bin
steel heart
@half harness I have question
half harness
Hello
steel heart
Why use extension functions
like for
Event listeners
In spigot
I’m just curious
steel heart
Oh
static zealot
the story of my life
steel heart
Such intriguing story
half harness
Why use extension functions
that 🥲
and
uhh i just do it to keep it more shorter
ex kt private fun BlockBreakEvent.onBreak() { player.sendMessage("Broke block at ${block.location}") } vs ```kt
private fun onBreak(event: BlockBreakEvent) {
event.player.sendMessage("Broke block at ${event.block.location}")
}
btw
by "that"
i meant
steel heart
Ah
half harness
what blitz said
steel heart
And then you also inline it?
steel heart
Ah
half harness
i inline it
half harness
fun test() = something() this? or something else
steel heart
Isn’t there an inline keyword?
obtuse gale
i accidentally deleted the whole plugins folder from my test server 💀
static zealot
i accidentally deleted the whole plugins folder from my test server 💀
oh boy. that reminds me of when I've reset windows and forgot to push most projects to github
steel heart
Similar to how lombok extension functions work
I think
Since they also get inlined
obtuse gale
note: if you've got a copyToServer task in gradle, never run cleanCopyToServer
half harness
wdym
ocean quartz
Event listeners
Basically to change the receiver of the function, reduces event. calls
Can also be done with onBreak(event: BlockBreakEvent) = with (event) {
half harness
wait is that a plugin
distant sun
note: if you've got a copyToServer task in gradle, never run cleanCopyToServer
I think I did that and it didnt delete the other files, hmm
half harness
private fun onBreak(event: BlockBreakEvent) = event.let {
with(it) {
println("cool event: ${player.name}")
}
}
```\:)I both love and hate it.
I don't know what other language to choose though, since I'm trying to write a discord bot that runs at a reasonable speed
steel heart
what’s the point of with btw?
half harness
what’s the point of with btw?
same reason that I do extension function
except that u use with if it's not a function
like
eternal compass
I both love and hate it.
I don't know what other language to choose though, sinc...
I used to use TS for all this, but it's just stupid how many layers of compilation and such that need to happen
steel heart
ah
static zealot
what’s the point of with btw?
calls the function block with the given receiver
half harness
I both love and hate it.
I don't know what other language to choose though, sinc...
kotlin 🤩
distant sun
It allows you to use this but as the given object
steel heart
Oo
half harness
So it just creates an anonymous function
also ```kt
fun test() {
fun other() {
}
}
Well isn’t that a bit confusing tho?
steel heart
Oh right
static zealot
Oo
btw. if you want good documentation (when matt's not arownd bcz the reost of us are dumb), kotlinlang.org docs are pretty good
half harness
Well isn’t that a bit confusing tho?
well
you can use this@outerFunction to clarify
🤷
steel heart
Blitz good point
steel heart
well
you can use `this@outerFunction` to clarify
Ah yeah that’s nice
static zealot
Blitz good point
I really mean it tho. that's what I do. if you literally google with Kotlin you will get this: https://kotlinlang.org/api/latest/jvm/stdlib/kotlin/with.html which explains it pretty well + references other stuff to make sure you understand those as well
half harness
JVM is still not compiled unfortunately
oh u mean machine code?
steel heart
Got a commission and he demands the plugin to be written in kotlin because "performance" apparently
distant sun
Maybe, but it is useful for stuff like
a.doA
a.doB
..
a.doX
a.doY
a.doZ
A good example imo would be spawning an armor stand amd then modify its properties (setVisible, serBase, setCustomName, setCustomNameVisible and other 10 methods)
eternal compass
oh u mean machine code?
That's what I meant by "Reasonable Speed"
half harness
wot
static zealot
Got a commission and he demands the plugin to be written in kotlin because "perf...
LMAOO
cinder flare
JVM is still not compiled unfortunately
I think you'd be surprised how good the JVM is
cinder flare
I've been doing a lot of reading about optimizations and stuff in the hotspot jvm
It's probably better than Go in a lot of areas
half harness
i mean for a discord bot
eternal compass
It's probably better than Go in a lot of areas
how so?
Golang is compiled directly to machine code
cinder flare
how so?
Golang is compiled directly to machine code
So is code that runs frequently in the jvm
And that doesn't mean anything
eternal compass
yup, I know
obtuse gale
I think it's safe to assume hotspot jvm is the single best JIT runtime environment
cinder flare
Brainfuck can be compiled to machine code and is still slow
eternal compass
well yes
cinder flare
I think it's safe to assume hotspot jvm is the single best JIT runtime environme...
It beats compiled languages often too
static zealot
also ```kt
fun test() {
fun other() {
}
}
```this is valid code
I should start taking advantage more often of the features kotlin has. At this point I could just use java and miss almost nothing.
obtuse gale
yeah
steel heart
I should start taking advantage more often of the features kotlin has. At this p...
Maybe a sign of 
static zealot
nah. I like kotlin
cinder flare
I very recently read an article comparing the performance of Go and Java, and Java won almost all of them due to runtime optimizations like lock elision with escape analysis
eternal compass
wild, java is about 6x faster with binary trees
static zealot
I very recently read an article comparing the performance of Go and Java, and Ja...
2 things I have no idea what they mean
cinder flare
wild, java is about 6x faster with binary trees
Yeah man
It's kind of crazy how good the JVM is
ocean quartz
with, let, also, apply, use, run, all really cool but kinda only useful in certain places
cinder flare
I never thought it was that good but god damn
eternal compass
500 seconds vs like 1
obtuse gale
python bruh
eternal compass
anyway, still worth learning go
obtuse gale
I never thought it was that good but god damn
yeah people REALLY undermine how good the jvm can really be
static zealot
`with`, `let`, `also`, `apply`, `use`, `run`, all really cool but kinda only use...
true
eternal compass
moral of the story is learn rust
https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/fastest/go-rust.html
distant sun
`with`, `let`, `also`, `apply`, `use`, `run`, all really cool but kinda only use...
^ run is nice in combination with ?: and then a return
ocean quartz
Yeah
obtuse gale
recently I learned that some (not all, it depends on what is called) reflection operations will actually be optimized into generated compiled code (which is undoubtedly faster than any kind of reflection op) via interfaces, similar to that of method references
ocean quartz
use is awesome for closable things, it's basically an auto try catch finally
distant sun
Ye, very nice
ocean quartz
My favorite feature is !! i love npes
obtuse gale
if anything it's slower lol
obtuse gale
eternal compass
it unsurprisingly beats java in every possible way
static zealot
anyone has a map of miencraft legacy colors and their hex values please?
distant sun
Mhm, delete object;
distant sun
anyone has a map of miencraft legacy colors and their hex values please?
Google does
static zealot
ty emily!!
static zealot
Google does
I know but used like 3 different searches and couldn't find one
obtuse gale
lol
distant sun
<https://github.com/KyoriPowered/adventure/blob/4a7f56d7c798b884242a6b2291ef79f5...
I like that github mobile app has support for links to certain line(s) 🥲
static zealot
3 Whole Searches
believe me I got pretty good at googling. when I don't find anything on 3 whole google pages, something's wrong
half harness
anyone has a map of miencraft legacy colors and their hex values please?
minecraft wiki 🙃
static zealot
yes. that
timber oak
Is it possible to change spawner rates in a plugin? and not just in the bukkit.yml
And upgrade the rates, for specific spawners using PDC
timber oak
you wouldnt use pdc for it i dont believe
I think I would in this case, to identify them and store their upgrades in the plugin. Since the spawners are upgradeable
Not sure how I would do it yet but yeah
timber oak
Ye exactly
brittle leaf
tho you would have to take those values and do something with them to upgrade the spawner speeds
timber oak
Problem is that it needs to be compatible down to 1.8... And I hate just clean NBT
using reflection
It's a mess
brittle leaf
pdc doesnt exist below 1.14
brittle leaf
timber oak
Oh wow yeah it also supports entities, nice
brittle leaf
i dont think you even need to have them download the plugin
timber oak
Yeah they've got a dependency in maven-public repo
brittle leaf
SQL looks hard
currently in the process of learning how to use sqlite to store data and wow its complex
timber oak
currently in the process of learning how to use sqlite to store data and wow its...
I've got a plugin that uses sqlite for reference if you want
Well an interface with MySQL and SQLite iirc
wintry plinth
What is it you need to be able to do with SQL?
brittle leaf
literally just to store a world,x,y,z location whenever the recorder makes an update
such as block break, piston event, etc
i was looking at core protect and how its done in that plugin and it has wid,x,y,z in one table and wid,worldname in another
timber oak
wintry plinth
So if you need to store X Y Z I would have them as separate columns
wintry plinth
Here ya go https://github.com/ValdemarF20/Rankup/tree/master/src/main/java/net/v...
Quick glimpse on mobile this looks neat
timber oak
Quick glimpse on mobile this looks neat
Tyty
brittle leaf
world | x | y | z |
thats how im storing them
in 4 seperate columns
not in one big string
wintry plinth
Phew
hybrid wedge
I purchased Guilds. I didn't received role My spigot account already linked someone staff check?
brittle leaf
Is it a good practice to close sql connection after ive finished the sqlite task i wanted to do
humble silo
always
frail glade
I purchased Guilds. I didn't received role My spigot account already linked some...
How long ago was it purchased?
brittle leaf
i did it
but org.sqlite.SQLiteException: [SQLITE_BUSY] The database file is locked (database is locked)
which proceeds to lag the server to fuck
dawn hinge
unless it's a one time thing, I wouldn't recommend you to close the connection, only do it on disable
closing/open connections are quite intensive
brittle leaf
unless it's a one time thing, I wouldn't recommend you to close the connection, ...
how do i check if the connection automatically closed itself?
dawn hinge
Connection#isClosed
brittle leaf
does sqlite ever close the connection?
dawn hinge
🤷♂️
dark fjord
Anyone know of a similar mod to replay mod that is supported in 1.18.1 forge?
hybrid wedge
How long ago was it purchased?
I purchased for yesterday
frail glade
Should be good now.
cinder flare
Is it a good practice to close sql connection after ive finished the sqlite task...
hikaricp 😌
obtuse gale
I don't think using a connection pool is any beneficial for sqlite as connecting to it locks the whole file for itself
Faaaairly sure
brittle leaf
how would i go about running async select queries?
brittle leaf
public boolean hasBeenBrokenBefore(World world,int x,int y,int z) {
if (world == null) {return false;}
PreparedStatement statement = prepareStatement("SELECT EXISTS (SELECT wid,x,y,z FROM fc_block WHERE wid = "+getWorldID(world.getName())+" AND x = "+x+" AND y = "+y+" AND z = "+z+")" );
try {
ResultSet rs = statement.executeQuery();
return rs.getBoolean(1);
} catch(Exception e) {
e.printStackTrace();
}
return false;
}
i want to run this async, wasnt sure if you could async select queries
as someone else said they couldnt get it to work
obtuse gale
Right so what you really want is to be able to run that async, yet get the return value immediately on the method call
brittle leaf
its not possible is it
obtuse gale
No, to return the value immediately you need to wait until the query is finished
What you can do is issue a callback for when the value is available, and then do something with it
Easiest way is probably something like this
CompletableFuture.supplyAsync(() -> {
/* query */
}).thenAccept(value -> {
/* use value */
});
Keep in mind that by the time you process the value, the method you called all that from will have long exited
This isn't an issue if you're e.g. sending feedback, running command, those can be delayed without issues. But if you do need the value immediately e.g. in an event you want to cancel, you will either a) have to block until it's done, or b) use a cache and load things before they're used
brittle leaf
i just needed a method to store what blocks have been broken before so i can figure out if to give skill xp or not
brittle leaf
a cache?
obtuse gale
Yes, a cache
basically a Map you use to pre-store values before you need them because querying for them is expensive etc
brittle leaf
load the data from sqlite into memory and save them every so often and on plugin disable
primal crystal
basically a Map you use to pre-store values before you need them because queryin...
PDC would be better right?
brittle leaf
you cant use pdc on blocks that dont have tile entity data
obtuse gale
^
brittle leaf
im storing every block, every dirt, stone and gravel.
primal crystal
obtuse gale
I mean you could store the data in the chunk PDC, but not in the block itself
That's a good solution nonetheless
primal crystal
I would go for Chunk PDC rather than HashMaps
brittle leaf
i was thinking of having the data based on the chunk
primal crystal
I mean you could store the data in the chunk PDC, but not in the block itself
thats true 😃
brittle leaf
tho had no idea how to actually go about doing that
obtuse gale
https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/custom-block-data-persistentdatacontainer-for-b...
Also that's flawed, not the same as the actual persistence API, that's tied to the location rather than the block data itself (e.g. a chest or a sign which you can clone and transfer in creative)
brittle leaf
originally i just had a hashset of locations, if the location was in the hashset then it was modified by a player, it was removed on if the block was made by a cobblegen for example
primal crystal
Also that's flawed, not the same as the actual persistence API, that's tied to t...
hmm..yeah...true...but for storing who placed the block it would be fine right?
brittle leaf
it worked fine, only issue is i had no idea how to store it.
i dont care who placed the block, im not logging that
its specific for if it had be modified by a player
primal crystal
You need it to be persistent?
obtuse gale
originally i just had a hashset of locations, if the location was in the hashset...
And boom there's your cache
brittle leaf
between restarts
primal crystal
between restarts
then y not JSON?
brittle leaf
then y not JSON?
i tried gson, it was hell.
primal crystal
store the data of the set when you are shutting down the server...
brittle leaf
i couldnt get json to work that was the issue
primal crystal
i tried gson, it was hell.
y lol?
quiet depot
gson is great
primal crystal
Try a file-system API something like SimplixStorage or any other lib...if you feel Gson is hard
obtuse gale
Hi @quiet depot Did you know HikariJSON is a thing?
viral grove
On Kotlin, Kotlin serialize works great for Json
obtuse gale
brittle leaf
so scrap using sqlite and use json?
viral grove
For Java, I've used Moshi and Jackson. Both work not too bad as well
primal crystal
Hi <@181675431362035712> Did you know HikariJSON is a thing?
HikkariJSON!!! what is that?
primal crystal
so scrap using sqlite and use json?
I would prefer JSON Over SQLite if you are writing that much data
brittle leaf
i literally only was to read and write worldname,x,y,z. thats it. if json is faster then sqlite then ill take it
primal crystal
Really really fast
hmm..thats cool...did he publish it?
obtuse gale
For both cases I'd suggest loading in onEnable, saving in onDisable, use the Set anytime in-between and forget about the rest
quiet depot
Hi <@181675431362035712> Did you know HikariJSON is a thing?
no
obtuse gale
hmm..thats cool...did he publish it?
I linked it earlier today, search from:me has:link
I wanna try it out, it's not like I really need hyperspeed json processing but still lol
primal crystal
I linked it earlier today, search from:me has:link
he didn't publish it right? no repo or so..might need to include in the project itself
obtuse gale
Oh you mean published in a maven repo, no clue
primal crystal
https://github.com/brettwooldridge/HikariJSON/issues/8
i don't think so...seems like he himself abandoned it
brittle leaf
i had the idea of on chunk load query the database and load the data from those specific chunks into the hashset and then on chunk unload save the data from those same chunks
ofcourse ondisable save all the chunk data
maybe an async save here and there
chunk x | chunk y | relational x y z | world
so 6 columns
primal crystal
yeah...you could do that in chunk load event...but still if using SQL it would be still be a a resonable load to the server if the server has a decent player size
nocturne remnant
How can I send toast when a player logs into the server. For example, "TEST JOIN THE GAME"?
primal crystal
https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/event/player/PlayerJoinEvent.html
Listen to the event and either set it as a welcome message or send a new message to the player
@nocturne remnant
nocturne remnant
How do I add an achievement toast?
wind patio
a json lib, allegedly fast, very fast
Real chads use .txt
Fastest performance out there 🙅♂️ 🧢
sly sonnet
real chads dont need databases
wind patio
How do I add an achievement toast?
You'll need to create an advancement
It's quite a rabbit hole
wind patio
real chads dont need databases
True
Persistent data? Imagine
Temporary data? Real shit
wind patio
How do I add an achievement toast?
I'd suggest looking for an API
primal crystal
How do I add an achievement toast?
cinder flare
I would prefer JSON Over SQLite if you are writing that much data
that is definitely the opposite way to go, especially if your data is relational in any way
wintry plinth
I think I’d much rather go with SQLite over JSON too, if I was having to write to it
cinder flare
Flatfile scales rather poorly in my experience, plus it's just nicer to be able to use any database engine
cinder flare
yeah, i misspoke, i kinda don't consider sqlite flatfile for some reason even though it objectively is
that and H2
wintry plinth
Ahhh right
wintry plinth
Yeah I agree then, JSON I wouldn’t use especially for lots of data
Or even worse still
Storing fuck tons in 1 file
cinder flare
yeah if you really want JSON, go Mongo at least
quiet depot
flatfile
wintry plinth
Yeah
quiet depot
what is the definition
wintry plinth
A flat… file piggy smh
quiet depot
sqllite is a file, .db
wintry plinth
Jk
quiet depot
json is a file, .json
wintry plinth
But is it flat
quiet depot
is one human readable?
marble plaza
Hello! Can anyone help me to get TPS?
This doesn't work: double[] tps = Bukkit.getServer().spigot().getTPS()
cinder flare
Hello! Can anyone help me to get TPS?
This doesn't work: double[] tps = Bukkit.g...
also it probably doesn't return an array
marble plaza
What's the difference between #development and #dev-general ?
primal crystal
that is definitely the opposite way to go, especially if your data is relational...
But if he want to query each time a player placed a block and retrieve it then is it wise?
marble plaza
lol ok, thanks.
cinder flare
But if he want to query each time a player placed a block and retrieve it then i...
storing large amounts of data like that is absolutely a good idea to use SQL-based for the querying capabilities
looking through all that JSON is going to make you want to commit die
primal crystal
storing large amounts of data like that is absolutely a good idea to use SQL-bas...
oo...then my understanding were wrong....
inner umbra
Or use the blocks PDC.
primal crystal
i thought it would take much larger resource to query request
primal crystal
Or use the blocks PDC.
that was my first suggestion
cinder flare
If they're making like a CoreProtect knockoff, would not be good to store it in PDC
to be fair, i have absolutely no idea what they're making
primal crystal
to be fair, i have absolutely no idea what they're making
if i am not wrong...he just want to log whether the block is placed by a player or not
cinder flare
haha
primal crystal
If they're making like a CoreProtect knockoff, would not be good to store it in ...
but as emily suggest, it can sometimes clone data....
cinder flare
well if you want a list of all blocks placed by a player, it might be worth doing both
then you can tell if an individual block was, plus you have a queryable list as well
inner umbra
If you don't care who placed the block you can also just check if the block exists in the initial chunk generation.
primal crystal
i dont care who placed the block, im not logging that
.
inner umbra
If you don't care who placed the block you can also just check if the block exis...
Spot on then? Lol
cinder flare
oh pfft lol
primal crystal
If you don't care who placed the block you can also just check if the block exis...
oo..is there something like that?
inner umbra
I'm not 100% sure but yes I think something is possible.
primal crystal
I'm not 100% sure but yes I think something is possible.
remember the method name or so?
inner umbra
It wouldn't be just 1 method. You would have to write something to get the initial blocks from the chunk generation. If it's not in that list it was placed by a player.
wind patio
<#695431668944732270> is for hanging out
Hanging out ... of course if you are considered a dev
🤓
cinder flare
Hanging out ... of course if you are considered a dev
No, that's #developer-chat
cinder flare
Cause you're not a dev 😉
wind patio
Cause you're not a dev 😉
Tell that to my 5 stars on my github repo 😎
primal crystal
Tell that to my 5 stars on my github repo 😎
by any chance you an Indian?
inner umbra
We got another one seeing stars. Take him to the asylum.
wind patio
by any chance you an Indian?
No chance
And you're not the first one asking lol
obtuse gale
please help me
i have a plugin Leader Heads 3.1.8.3 And PlaceHolderApi 2.9.2, i create a hologram with top kills and deaths, but kill and deaths always stay in 0, i dont understand please help
wind patio
please help me
i have a plugin Leader Heads 3.1.8.3 And PlaceHolderApi 2.9.2, i ...
#placeholder-api I'd say
obtuse gale
<#573429521554866178> I'd say
what?
wind patio
"X Blue Hat"?
No cap
inner umbra
Did you want one? Like are you asking for it?
cinder flare
yea it's rainy outside and his hair is getting wet
wind patio
😩
inner umbra
Lol
winter iron
yea it's rainy outside and his hair is getting wet
Not the only thing getting wet
💯
The floor bruh the floor is getting wet chill out
quaint isle
I'm going to give my old laptop to my sister and need to purchase a new notebook as secondary device.
Its purpose will be software development, so it should be beefy enough to run Jetbrains software well (PHPStorm/WebStorm, DataGrip, etc.)
Should have 3+ hours battery life, 15" and not too chonky.
Any suggestions? Looking to spend less than $1000. Refurbished is fine too.
wind patio
I'd say get a one with good CPU, any modern one should be beefy enough
static zealot
oh no. I'd personally say get one without a CPU
static zealot
Reasonable size SSD would be a plus too
I believe they want laptop suggestions xD. not what the laptop should contain
wind patio
oh no. I'd personally say get one without a CPU
I said good
Laptop suggestions can vary
Maybe they don't like X
And want more of a Y
It's better to know what you should look for in it
There are a lot of laptop models that are beefy enough to run intellij
oblique heath
get the framework laptop
it's fancy, repairable, upgradable, albeit a bit expensive compared to the mass market laptops
oblique heath
you can get decent specs on it for ~1100 usd
static zealot
yeah. but he said he has less than 1k
oblique heath
then he can get slightly less decent specs for 1k 🤷
do you need help unclogging a drain
peeling potatos, perhaps
compact perchBOT
FAQ Answer:
oblique heath
looks like you joined one too many l33t hacking servers
static zealot
then he can get slightly less decent specs for 1k 🤷
when you have a low budget, framework should not be a recommendation in my opinion. It is more expensive and he probably doesn't care about the modularity
oblique heath
1k is not a low budget
you can get a laptop that meets his criteria for less than half of that
static zealot
but he said he mentioned he would like to spend under 1k. the cheapest prebuild from framework is 1k.
oblique heath
the diy starts at 750
static zealot
I guess he could go DIY
wind patio
He needs a laptop, not a pc
oblique heath
the framework laptop is a laptop
static zealot
it is a laptop xD
you get the parts and put them together. framework is a modular laptop
oblique heath
i am using correct terms
wind patio
Misread
static zealot
just its a laptop
wind patio
Yeah I know abt the framework laptop
oblique heath
insta banned
static zealot
they're joking, we don't know. we're not discord
static zealot
yeah like M0ii said its probably just a warning for now
oblique heath
as long as you are not actively participating in the 'cybercrime' the message mentioned you're probably safe
you're not... right?
sounds like a pyramid scheme
oblique heath
artin if you're this worried just talk to actual discord support like blitz said initially
static zealot
as they said in that warning, you should be reporting and leaving. or just leaving.