#dev-general | HelpChat | Page 608

steel heart Jan 14, 2022, 5:10 PM

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I mean streams are a bit slow but they do not cause inherent memory leaks

sweet cipher Jan 14, 2022, 5:11 PM

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Actually I read it wrong, they said streams allocate new collections and objects which cause memory leaks

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Still doesn’t make sense though

steel heart Jan 14, 2022, 5:15 PM

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Like are they just claiming it? Or have they done some actual research (like read written code, and used a profiler etc)

obtuse gale Jan 14, 2022, 5:20 PM

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sweet cipher Actually I read it wrong, they said streams allocate new collections and objects...

The first part is true but… so do you in regular for-loops to achieve the same thing

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Arguably the only "real" overhead is the inherent abstraction, which is full of method calls, vtables are slow yada yada

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Not to mention the jvm has decades of experience in optimizing for-loops as well

potent nest Jan 14, 2022, 5:28 PM

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Not good enough!

viral grove Jan 14, 2022, 6:08 PM

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Why do people prefer IDEA over VSCode? What features make IDEA better? I'm thinking of switching to VSCode as its less heavy on the system

hot hull Jan 14, 2022, 6:09 PM

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You mean VS?

wintry plinth Jan 14, 2022, 6:09 PM

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No he means VS Code

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For Java etc

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Here’s my truthful opinion on VS Code vs Jetbrains products..

It’s decent, but take it from experience auto completions and suggestions are not as good on VSCode, no matter how many extensions you throw at it

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I tried to use VSCode to replace PHPStorm, it was a no no, auto completions sucked, and you lose productivity

hot hull Jan 14, 2022, 6:11 PM

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Using VS atm cause not sure if IJ has the extension I need, and I gotta say, VS is garbage compared to IJ

wintry plinth Jan 14, 2022, 6:11 PM

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Yeah, only only time I like VS Code is for JavaScript based projects

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Admittedly does well there

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But for anything else it’s awful

hot hull Jan 14, 2022, 6:12 PM

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I mean I only use vsc for editing configs

wintry plinth Jan 14, 2022, 6:12 PM

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Oh I use jetbrains CLI for that

hot hull Jan 14, 2022, 6:12 PM

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It opens up rq so it's nice

wintry plinth Jan 14, 2022, 6:12 PM

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“pstorm <file/folder>” opens up in a lite mode

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Like what fleet has

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Any jetbrains product works the same

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Once it’s setup from CLI it opens in a less feature rich window (for quick editing)

viral grove Jan 14, 2022, 6:29 PM

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I'm personally using VSCode for CPP, and I've had a much better time on that compared to on Clion. It's lightweight enough that I can install TabNine (at least till I get copilot), which has better complete than Clion imo

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That's all right? IJ just has better autocomplete?

wintry plinth Jan 14, 2022, 6:38 PM

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I’ve tried doing similar in the PHP realm, I end up always going back to PHPStorm, maybe fleet will change that - as I agree rn often most jetbrains stuff is heavy

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Thankfully I no longer suffer any form of battery drain with jetbrains IDEs but I used to

hot hull Jan 14, 2022, 6:41 PM

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Oh yea, laptop noob

wintry plinth Jan 14, 2022, 6:43 PM

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Ye lol, my old laptop I suffered drain, my new one takes forever to go down even with jetbrains shit open etc

prisma wave Jan 14, 2022, 6:45 PM

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sweet cipher Actually I read it wrong, they said streams allocate new collections and objects...

bull shit

wintry plinth Jan 14, 2022, 6:47 PM

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Yeah I think it was Hypixel article

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Because I remember them mentioning

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https://hypixel.net/threads/dev-blog-6-keeping-up-with-the-masses.2251554/

Hypixel - Minecraft Server and Maps

Dev Blog #6 - Keeping up with the Masses

Hey!

This is another one of those in-depth dev blogs in which we explain what happens behind the scenes to maintain a seamless experience for you, the players. Today we're going into a little more technical post since we'll be talking about how we were able to scale from 30,000 players to...

sweet cipher Jan 14, 2022, 7:39 PM

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obtuse gale The first part is true but… so do you in regular for-loops to achieve the same t...

That’s what I was thinking lol

prisma wave Jan 14, 2022, 8:28 PM

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wintry plinth https://hypixel.net/threads/dev-blog-6-keeping-up-with-the-masses.2251554/

yeah allocation != a memory leak though

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streams have memory (and therefore cpu) overhead but they don't leak

steel heart Jan 14, 2022, 8:51 PM

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Unless

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You make them leak

sweet cipher Jan 14, 2022, 8:52 PM

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It looks like their exact words are from that Hypixel post lol

obtuse gale Jan 14, 2022, 8:53 PM

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streams have memory

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and therefore cpu

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more streams = more memory and more cpu

wintry plinth Jan 14, 2022, 8:56 PM

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I use streams

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Twitch dot tv /s

ocean quartz Jan 14, 2022, 9:31 PM

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obtuse gale more streams = more memory and more cpu

So that's the secret behind https://downloadmoreram.com/!!

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They just spin some streams in the background!

static zealot Jan 14, 2022, 9:49 PM

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indeed

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wait actually?

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damn. that's cool

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I've been using this website for a few years now. it helped a lot

obtuse gale Jan 14, 2022, 10:19 PM

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question

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anyone know how to set a player head in deluxe menus as a material?

sly sonnet Jan 14, 2022, 10:41 PM

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#general-plugins

viral grove Jan 15, 2022, 7:35 AM

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Made my first post on Stack Overflow

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I shall be hiding in a bunker for the next few days

sly sonnet Jan 15, 2022, 7:35 AM

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send link

viral grove Jan 15, 2022, 7:45 AM

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https://stackoverflow.com/questions/70719627/should-i-be-using-c-modules-instead-of-include

Stack Overflow

Should I be using C++ modules instead of #include?

I'm a new C++ learner, and I've been thought to use #import and header files to import files from other libraries or files (such as the stdlib). However, I recently came across "modules" ...

tepid sedge Jan 15, 2022, 8:28 AM

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Hey, I need help making a loop to go thru all of the colors I've set in my config and take all the info that I've done for each one of color and put it in GUI.
I have the GUI thing set already but I need the loop that'll take all the info. can someone explain me how can I do that?

EXAMPLE OF CONFIG

colors:
  red:
    material:
    displayname:
    lore:
      - "test"
      - "test"
  blue:
    material:
    displayname:
    lore:
      - "test"
      - "test"

Also if you can help me with that too,
How can I get the color he choose easier so when I want to actually change it to his chatcolor I'll have to put the variable?

        switch (e.getCurrentItem().getType()){
            case RED_DYE:
                HashMap<Player, String> colorinfo = new HashMap<Player, String>();
                Player p = (Player) e.getWhoClicked();
                String color = e.getCurrentItem().toString();
                colorinfo.put(p, color);
                e.getWhoClicked().closeInventory();
                e.getWhoClicked().sendMessage(Colors.color("&e&lChatColor &8» &7You've changed your chat color to &c&l&nRED&7!"));
        }

that's what I've done so far

*Please mention me if you've got a solution, thanks everyone. 😄

primal crystal Jan 15, 2022, 9:57 AM

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tepid sedge Hey, I need help making a loop to go thru all of the colors I've set in my confi...

Configuration#getKeys(false)

tepid sedge Jan 15, 2022, 1:02 PM

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primal crystal `Configuration#getKeys(false)`

what?

primal crystal Jan 15, 2022, 1:49 PM

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tepid sedge what?

        final ConfigurationSection section = this.getConfig().getConfigurationSection("colors");
        section.getKeys(false).forEach((colorName) -> {
            final String material = section.getString(colorName+".material");
            final String displayname = section.getString(colorName+".displayname");
            final List<String> lore = section.getStringList(colorName+".lore");
        });

If i didn't misread the question this was what you asked right?

tepid sedge Jan 15, 2022, 1:51 PM

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Yes, thank you 🙂

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but it'll get the colorName?

primal crystal Jan 15, 2022, 1:54 PM

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tepid sedge but it'll get the colorName?

the color name will be red & blue

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yep..its getting the parent keys from the config section

tepid sedge Jan 15, 2022, 1:59 PM

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primal crystal the color name will be `red` & `blue`

It's getting it from the main config?

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or external file?

primal crystal Jan 15, 2022, 2:00 PM

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it can do both FileConfiguration has this method

brittle leaf Jan 15, 2022, 4:30 PM

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After some testing ive come to a conclusion on the PlayerInteractEvent:
Throwing item at air
Equiping item at air
Teleporting on the same tick you click a block

When you right click with these actions they all fire the event with the same hand twice.
while doing these actions with the item in the offhand its not completely expected behaviour either.

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Version 1.18.1
using paper or spigot makes no difference to the result as they both do the same thing.

sweet cipher Jan 15, 2022, 4:43 PM

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I’m pretty sure I’ve heard of that bug with teleporting

brittle leaf Jan 15, 2022, 4:45 PM

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at this point i might aswell just implement a check that returns if the hand is the same as the last hand in a space of like 50ms

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should nullify the duplicates since they seem to occur on the same or 1 millisecond as the first

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a check on a per player basis

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for left and right air and block click.

olive grove Jan 15, 2022, 5:06 PM

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Yea I noticed some weird behavior with the interact event like that

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It seems to fire twice sometimes and a bunch of other weird stuff

brittle leaf Jan 15, 2022, 5:18 PM

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multiple events firing when you teleport on the same tick is a bug thats already been reported on the spigot jira,
throwing and equiping items when clicking air just firsts a left and right click of air because of how the client handles it which means its expected behaviour

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for now my fix is to just run the teleport on the next tick instead of the same tick

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and im guessing just cancel whichever section of the event doesnt want to be used for everything else

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there will be a range of checks that i can deal with

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after all this debugging ive actually gained a slightly better understanding of when this event fires and what it fires

viral grove Jan 15, 2022, 7:46 PM

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CPP: Let's make types complicated

short: minimum 16 bits
int: minimum 16 bits (but usually 32 bits)
long: minimum 32 bits
long long: minimum 64 bits

All of the types above can have the int suffix, except for int. So you can short int, which is exactly the same as short

Then you have integers with fixed limits

std::int8_t: Guaranteed 8 bits (but treated as a char)
std::int16_t: Guaranteed 16 bits
std::int32_t: Guaranteed 32 bits
std::int64_t: Guaranteed 64 bits

But on some system, creating 32 bit integers could take longer than 64 bit integers. So you also have fast integers, which chooses the fastest integer bit value, with a minimum you specify.

std::int_fast8_t: Minimum 8 bits, can be increased for optimisation
std::int_fast16_t: Minimum 16 bits, can be increased for optimisationstd::int_fast32_t: Minimum 32 bits, can be increased for optimisation
std::int_fast64_t: Minimum 64 bits, can be increased for optimisation

And because you have absolutely no idea of how many bits an integer type takes, there are least types

int_least8_t: The smallest possible integer value offered by the system that's at least 8 bits
int_least16_t: The smallest possible integer value offered by the system that's at least 16 bits
int_least32_t: The smallest possible integer value offered by the system that's at least 32 bits
int_least64_t: The smallest possible integer value offered by the system that's at least 64 bits

And there are "unsigned" variants of all these values, which means that it cannot store negative numbers, but allows for more whole numbers to be stored.

And ofc int_fast#_t and int_least#_t is discouraged cause not a lot of people know how to use them :/

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Rant over

potent nest Jan 15, 2022, 7:53 PM

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isn't unsigned a type itself too?

viral grove Jan 15, 2022, 7:57 PM

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unsigned without a type defaults to unsigned int, which ig is fairly logical

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Till you realise that you have not idea what an int is

obtuse gale Jan 15, 2022, 8:22 PM

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I mean short and long aren't in themselves types

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they're modifiers or whatever they're called

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that's why you can do short int, because... it is a short int ShockedPikachu

prisma wave Jan 15, 2022, 8:22 PM

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you're not a type in yourself

obtuse gale Jan 15, 2022, 8:23 PM

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Then you have integers with fixed limits
those are not required by the standard to exist in any particular stl, the fast and least variants instead are

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realistically they will exist, but it's not required

obtuse gale Jan 15, 2022, 8:24 PM

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viral grove `unsigned` without a type defaults to `unsigned int`, which ig is fairly logical

same with long and short, they aren't themselves a type but they're type modifiers for int

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just stick with the std::int8_t etc and you'll be fine lol

potent nest Jan 15, 2022, 8:30 PM

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just stick with a different language

obtuse gale Jan 15, 2022, 8:31 PM

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nah

potent nest Jan 15, 2022, 8:33 PM

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☹️

prisma wave Jan 16, 2022, 1:17 PM

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Dead chat

quiet depot Jan 16, 2022, 1:18 PM

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rip

half harness Jan 16, 2022, 1:20 PM

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rip

remote goblet Jan 16, 2022, 1:22 PM

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Sadge

sly sonnet Jan 16, 2022, 1:41 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/stare-staring-cat-gif-20275090

Tenor

gusty glen Jan 16, 2022, 3:25 PM

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what do you use to (easily) SSH into linux machines on windows? I have putty installed but I'm struggling A LOT to configure it

half harness Jan 16, 2022, 3:25 PM

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termius 😌 🙃

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what issues r u getting tho?

quiet depot Jan 16, 2022, 3:25 PM

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I used to just use the ssh cli

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super easy

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clients like putty, termius, bitvise aren't really useful on desktop imo

gusty glen Jan 16, 2022, 3:26 PM

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my issue is that idk what user I should use to SSH

oblique heath Jan 16, 2022, 3:26 PM

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yeah i just use the windows command prompt

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with the openssh addon installed

gusty glen Jan 16, 2022, 3:26 PM

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also this

quiet depot Jan 16, 2022, 3:27 PM

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fr just use the ssh cli

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it's the way to go imo

gusty glen Jan 16, 2022, 3:27 PM

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quiet depot fr just use the ssh cli

I'm not using linux

quiet depot Jan 16, 2022, 3:27 PM

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ssh is on windows too

half harness Jan 16, 2022, 3:27 PM

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gusty glen my issue is that idk what user I should use to SSH

if you're using a VPS or smth they should tell you 🤔
for Raspberry PIs the default is pi (at least that's what mine is)

quiet depot Jan 16, 2022, 3:28 PM

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^ that depends on the image ur using

half harness Jan 16, 2022, 3:28 PM

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true

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im using raspberry pi os (lite)

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but it was the same with raspbian

gusty glen Jan 16, 2022, 3:29 PM

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I just bought a VPS on losangelesvps.com

quiet depot Jan 16, 2022, 3:29 PM

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the login will be accessible somewhere

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perhaps emailed to you

half harness Jan 16, 2022, 3:29 PM

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nice 🙂

oblique heath Jan 16, 2022, 3:29 PM

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darn

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doesnt get embedded

half harness Jan 16, 2022, 3:29 PM

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29mb 👀

gusty glen Jan 16, 2022, 3:30 PM

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oh nice they emailed me with the credentials

half harness Jan 16, 2022, 3:30 PM

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🥲

gusty glen Jan 16, 2022, 3:31 PM

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bruh

oblique heath Jan 16, 2022, 3:31 PM

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https://youtu.be/c2E3e2CGQKY

YouTube

ivan volkov

ssh on windows

▶ Play video

half harness Jan 16, 2022, 3:31 PM

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oblique heath https://youtu.be/c2E3e2CGQKY

wait u can have "aliases"?

gusty glen Jan 16, 2022, 3:31 PM

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ok I have more issues than I thought\

oblique heath Jan 16, 2022, 3:31 PM

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oh yeah

half harness Jan 16, 2022, 3:31 PM

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😮

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😮

quiet depot Jan 16, 2022, 3:31 PM

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~/.ssh/config

oblique heath Jan 16, 2022, 3:31 PM

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there's a .ssh folder in your user directory

half harness Jan 16, 2022, 3:32 PM

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i thought u had to type ip/username/password every time

oblique heath Jan 16, 2022, 3:32 PM

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makes life so incredibly easy

quiet depot Jan 16, 2022, 3:32 PM

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I used to have icons on my task bar for commonly used servers

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personal vps, helpchat vps, etc

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click em and they opened ssh windows

half harness Jan 16, 2022, 3:32 PM

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ooh

oblique heath Jan 16, 2022, 3:32 PM

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use rsa keys instead of a string password

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always

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it makes life easy

quiet depot Jan 16, 2022, 3:33 PM

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rsa

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smh

half harness Jan 16, 2022, 3:33 PM

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hm?

oblique heath Jan 16, 2022, 3:33 PM

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rsa keys let you ssh without entering a password

quiet depot Jan 16, 2022, 3:33 PM

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there's newer and better formats

prisma wave Jan 16, 2022, 3:33 PM

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can you show me your id_rsa file as an example please?

oblique heath Jan 16, 2022, 3:34 PM

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of course santa

prisma wave Jan 16, 2022, 3:34 PM

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Thanks

oblique heath Jan 16, 2022, 3:34 PM

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right here officer

prisma wave Jan 16, 2022, 3:34 PM

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no I mean what the actual contents is

agile galleon Jan 16, 2022, 3:34 PM

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quiet depot personal vps, helpchat vps, etc

what host does helpchat use?

prisma wave Jan 16, 2022, 3:35 PM

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mzungu

quiet depot Jan 16, 2022, 3:35 PM

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^

half harness Jan 16, 2022, 3:35 PM

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prisma wave mzungu

best vps provider

agile galleon Jan 16, 2022, 3:35 PM

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mzungu or ovh

quiet depot Jan 16, 2022, 3:35 PM

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https://helpch.at/host

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mzungu

agile galleon Jan 16, 2022, 3:35 PM

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ohh yess

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very cool

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ive seen that one already

gusty glen Jan 16, 2022, 3:35 PM

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oblique heath there's a .ssh folder in your user directory

I don't have this folder, if I create it manually, does it work?

agile galleon Jan 16, 2022, 3:35 PM

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kekw

oblique heath Jan 16, 2022, 3:36 PM

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gusty glen I don't have this folder, if I create it manually, does it work?

yes

gusty glen Jan 16, 2022, 3:41 PM

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is there a way to set up ssh host with a login that uses string password?

quiet depot Jan 16, 2022, 3:41 PM

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not a way to automatically input the password, switch to ssh keys

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passwords + ssh = no

gusty glen Jan 16, 2022, 3:42 PM

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I know, but I need to get in my server before I can do anything

oblique heath Jan 16, 2022, 3:42 PM

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you can allow string passwords after you first ssh in, probably

quiet depot Jan 16, 2022, 3:42 PM

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then just ssh in normally

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ssh root@ip

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you can put the host in the config, it'll just prompt you for the password when you ssh with the alias

gusty glen Jan 16, 2022, 3:43 PM

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also how do I link my registrar domain with my vps?

quiet depot Jan 16, 2022, 3:43 PM

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point the root record (@) to the ip

gusty glen Jan 16, 2022, 3:44 PM

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I already put the website on the VPS config, but I'm guessing I need to configure something on the registrar side

quiet depot Jan 16, 2022, 3:44 PM

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quiet depot point the root record (@) to the ip

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unless you're wanting to manage the domain entirely through your vps? as in dns too

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I don't recommend doing that

gusty glen Jan 16, 2022, 3:45 PM

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quiet depot point the root record (@) to the ip

I don't know what that means tbh

quiet depot Jan 16, 2022, 3:45 PM

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standard is to use cloudflare for dns

gusty glen Jan 16, 2022, 3:45 PM

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quiet depot standard is to use cloudflare for dns

yeah my registrar is cloudflare

quiet depot Jan 16, 2022, 3:45 PM

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make an a record

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with the name as @

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pointing to your vps

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yes

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just change that one

gusty glen Jan 16, 2022, 3:54 PM

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changed, now I just have to wait I guess?

slender remnant Jan 16, 2022, 4:52 PM

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Hello i'm a fullstack dev i create website in PHP symfony, discord bot in JS, and many other things like apps, API etc

i'm searching a SPIGOT and BUNGEECORD dev for one of my projet if you are one, contact me ;)

agile galleon Jan 16, 2022, 5:12 PM

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slender remnant Hello i'm a fullstack dev i create website in PHP symfony, discord bot in JS, an...

#926704034419716156 / #926704035015307344

slender remnant Jan 16, 2022, 5:12 PM

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thanks

wind patio Jan 16, 2022, 6:32 PM

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got covid

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pog

agile galleon Jan 16, 2022, 6:32 PM

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pog

wind patio Jan 16, 2022, 6:33 PM

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exams postponed, have to get the fuck out of dorm, go back home, at risk of infecting my family, more stress, more depression

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lets gooo

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time to code

static zealot Jan 16, 2022, 6:34 PM

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sounds fun /s 😦

gusty glen Jan 16, 2022, 8:41 PM

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I basically know nothing about linux, I was upgrading my Ubuntu VPS from 18.04 (painfully) to 20.04, but at some point on 19.10 -> 20.04, I did ended up killing the terminal. I have screen installed (whatever it might be, I just installed it because of a guide), and apt update doesn't work because E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend. It is held by process 13863 (apt) N: Be aware that removing the lock file is not a solution and may break your system. E: Unable to acquire the dpkg frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using it? How can I safely resume the upgrade process?

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screen says that there are no screens to be resumedroot@secretx:~# sudo screen -D -r There is no screen to be detached.

viral grove Jan 16, 2022, 8:55 PM

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gusty glen screen says that there are no screens to be resumed```root@secretx:~# sudo scree...

Does screen -ls show anything?

gusty glen Jan 16, 2022, 8:56 PM

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it say that there are no screens, I guess I'll have to install the OS again to be sure

oblique heath Jan 16, 2022, 8:58 PM

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try killing the process

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or restarting the system

viral grove Jan 16, 2022, 8:58 PM

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Restart fixes all

oblique heath Jan 16, 2022, 8:58 PM

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indeed

lost edge Jan 16, 2022, 10:47 PM

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I want to make a deep storage unit using barrels and I'm wondering what would be best way to store such data? Should I use a database or should I just use a barrels nbt data to save the large amount of items there are

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When you click the barrel it would open a custom menu not the normal inventory and noting would actually be stored in it

oblique heath Jan 16, 2022, 11:05 PM

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if you're storing a lot of items i think a database makes more sense

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it'll make it much easier to modify how you treat the items if you decide to add more functionality down the line

primal crystal Jan 17, 2022, 12:42 AM

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Persistent data containers are also a good choice if the server version is 1.16 or something+

steel heart Jan 17, 2022, 12:44 AM

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Believe it was added in 1.13 or 1.14 acc

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But yes

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Very nice api

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 2:01 AM

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@woeful mortar

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Accept my friend request, please.

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 3:25 AM

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primal crystal Persistent data containers are also a good choice if the server version is 1.16 ...

you can use nbt tags in older versions which are kinda same

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PDC is cool

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Old versions aren't

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sunglas

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 3:28 AM

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gradle is confusing me

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i'm trying to exclude txt resources by doing:

sourceSets {
   main {
      java {
         srcDir 'src'
         exclude '**/*.txt'
      }
   }
}

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but when i build the jar it still ends up packaging txt resources in

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 3:29 AM

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Yikes no

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 3:29 AM

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oh no

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what am i doing wrong

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 3:30 AM

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eeh… what's your dir tree structure?

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Screenshot

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 3:30 AM

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obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 3:31 AM

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Heretic

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 3:31 AM

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listen it's a fun technical challenge

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no judgie

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i've tried other combos for the exclude like exclude src/main/resources/*.txt

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but to no avail

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 3:34 AM

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Anyway, you'll want to edit the resources

sourceSets {
  main {
    resources {
      exclude "**/*.txt"
    }
  }
}

I'm not entirely sure if this will work, I don't really touch source sets unless I'm doing silly stuff. See if that works, if it doesn't hmu

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 3:34 AM

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lemme try it, tankya

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oooo that did it

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emily big brain

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 3:35 AM

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Yeeeee

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 3:35 AM

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thank you 🙂

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 3:35 AM

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Np

dim rampart Jan 17, 2022, 1:26 PM

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Why cant I see #offer-services?

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Or any of the selling channels

quiet depot Jan 17, 2022, 1:26 PM

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you're service muted

rancid gazelle Jan 17, 2022, 1:27 PM

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quiet depot you're service muted

Thats a thing? XD

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Welp p-p

wintry plinth Jan 17, 2022, 1:30 PM

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rekt

sly sonnet Jan 17, 2022, 1:43 PM

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dim rampart Or any of the selling channels

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-xd-gif-23389115

Tenor

dense dew Jan 17, 2022, 2:01 PM

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sly sonnet https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-xd-gif-23389115

more like

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https://tenor.com/view/config-issue-onetap-hvh-csgo-gif-21674381

Tenor

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dense dew https://tenor.com/view/config-issue-onetap-hvh-csgo-gif-21674381

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

Tenor

dense dew Jan 17, 2022, 2:05 PM

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is there any twitter account that announce programming events?

dense dew Jan 17, 2022, 3:11 PM

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pepeCry

hazy eagle Jan 17, 2022, 3:16 PM

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can someone help me with gradle?

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i dont see my build

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i have only MANIFEST.MF

ocean quartz Jan 17, 2022, 3:17 PM

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How are you building it?

hazy eagle Jan 17, 2022, 3:17 PM

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im clicking build

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i cant send screenshot ;/

ocean quartz Jan 17, 2022, 3:18 PM

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?imgur

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agile galleon Jan 17, 2022, 3:19 PM

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dense dew <:pepeCry:925038056287924304>

what

dense dew Jan 17, 2022, 3:19 PM

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agile galleon what

what

agile galleon Jan 17, 2022, 3:19 PM

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dense dew what

what

dense dew Jan 17, 2022, 3:19 PM

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agile galleon what

what

agile galleon Jan 17, 2022, 3:19 PM

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dense dew what

what

dense dew Jan 17, 2022, 3:19 PM

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agile galleon what

what

hazy eagle Jan 17, 2022, 3:22 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/zTr8iIb

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https://imgur.com/a/CCI01nc

distant sun Jan 17, 2022, 3:22 PM

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/build/libs

hazy eagle Jan 17, 2022, 3:23 PM

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i dont see /libs

ocean quartz Jan 17, 2022, 3:24 PM

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Can you show all the folders of /build?

hazy eagle Jan 17, 2022, 3:24 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/zTr8iIb

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thats all

ocean quartz Jan 17, 2022, 3:25 PM

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There is more under, i want to see all

distant sun Jan 17, 2022, 3:25 PM

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though libs should be above tmp

hazy eagle Jan 17, 2022, 3:25 PM

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there is no more under

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in build folder

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https://imgur.com/a/l3YiuqI

ocean quartz Jan 17, 2022, 3:29 PM

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Hmm, can you paste your build.gradle?

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?paste

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hazy eagle Jan 17, 2022, 3:30 PM

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https://paste.helpch.at/abeludihig.makefile

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thats my first time with gradle

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 3:47 PM

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obtuse gale Old versions aren't

1.8 pvp > 1.9

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no and i don't care and both versions are ass anyway

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if you're rating the entire game as a whole solely based on that one singular trivial minimal aspect, you're wrong

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@obtuse gale i meant 1.9+, also 1.8 servers exist because of pvp

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that's cool n all but my second statement still stands and 1.8 makes not even 7% of active servers lol

primal crystal Jan 17, 2022, 4:01 PM

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obtuse gale that's cool n all but my second statement still stands and 1.8 makes not even 7%...

The current 1.8 servers are mostly pvp servers and bw

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 4:02 PM

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that doesn't change the % a bit lol

primal crystal Jan 17, 2022, 4:02 PM

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Is hypixel still in 1.8?

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 4:02 PM

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most likely

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not all of their servers are 1.8 I know that

primal crystal Jan 17, 2022, 4:04 PM

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obtuse gale that doesn't change the % a bit lol

Yeah... I just mentioned it... Its more of a player decision IG, we used to host both 1.8 and 1.16 pvp back in days... And players would hop on to 1.8 one, those 1.16 would have something like 2-5 while 1.8 have a reasonable no... Same goes for bw... Thats the reason IG still many servers wont port them into newer versions

ocean quartz Jan 17, 2022, 4:05 PM

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I bet most players joining hypixel don't even know the server is 1.8 they just play on the latest release

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 4:06 PM

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I mean we know nothing about hypixel in reality

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all we can say for sure is that they use their own fork of spigot and uh that's it

primal crystal Jan 17, 2022, 4:07 PM

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ocean quartz I bet most players joining hypixel don't even know the server is 1.8 they just p...

Nah, they know...the majority i knew uses 1.8... Skyblock & Bedwars

static zealot Jan 17, 2022, 4:13 PM

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primal crystal Nah, they know...the majority i knew uses 1.8... Skyblock & Bedwars

not exactly. you might know people that know that but I've played with a lot of randoms that all have played with latest. Lunar client allows you to see others versions(only friends afaik). that's how I Know. Hypixel does advertise 1.8 for better pvp experience however.

half harness Jan 17, 2022, 4:27 PM

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1.7 😌

static zealot Jan 17, 2022, 4:28 PM

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shut up dkim

onyx loom Jan 17, 2022, 4:31 PM

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i HECKIN love minecraft pvp!!!!

ocean quartz Jan 17, 2022, 4:33 PM

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It's so good, i love spam clicking!

static zealot Jan 17, 2022, 4:34 PM

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I love spaghetti

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 7:43 PM

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ocean quartz I bet most players joining hypixel don't even know the server is 1.8 they just p...

akcheually they use 1.7.10 on their backend 🤓

static zealot Jan 17, 2022, 7:46 PM

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oblique heath akcheually they use 1.7.10 on their backend 🤓

we know ivan. why do you have to pull a dkim?

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smh

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 7:46 PM

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you're right i'm sorry i shouldn't have stooped so low

static zealot Jan 17, 2022, 7:47 PM

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dw. there's still time for you. dkim however has been captured by the dark side and there's no way of getting him back

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 7:47 PM

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he will be missed

open shell Jan 17, 2022, 7:57 PM

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an error related to an undefined variable appeared while using custom javascript placeholders: https://pastebin.com/Hvuf16pn I never noticed it until now. Snippet of what we are using: ```javascript
var arenaRegion = PlaceholderAPI.static.setPlaceholders(BukkitPlayer, "%worldguard_region_name%");
var arenaState = PlaceholderAPI.static.setPlaceholders(BukkitPlayer, "%" + "mobarena_arena_" + arenaRegion + "state" + "%");
var arenaTwoState = PlaceholderAPI.static.setPlaceholders(BukkitPlayer, "%" + "mobarena_arena" + arenaRegion + "2" + "state" + "%");
var arenaThreeState = PlaceholderAPI.static.setPlaceholders(BukkitPlayer, "%" + "mobarena_arena" + arenaRegion + "3" + "_state" + "%");
var twoArenas = ["undeadtemple", "rattledmines"] // 2 arenas
var threeArenas = ["undeadtemple"] // 3 arenas
var fourArenas = ["undeadtemple"] // 4 arenas

function currentArenaInfo() {

var arenaInfo = PlaceholderAPI.static.setPlaceholders(BukkitPlayer, "%" + "mobarena_arena_" + arenaRegion + "_" + args[0] + "%");

if (arenaThreeState == "§6Running" && fourArenas.indexOf("arenaRegion") && arenaState == "§6Running" && arenaTwoState == "§6Running") {
var arenaRegionFour = arenaRegion + "4";
var arenaInfoFour = PlaceholderAPI.static.setPlaceholders(BukkitPlayer, "%" + "mobarena_arena_" + arenaRegionFour + "_" + args[0] + "%");
...

Does BukkitPlayer have to be defined somewhere, as I thought it was automatically set in the bukkit api

agile galleon Jan 17, 2022, 7:58 PM

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JavaScript pepecross

open shell Jan 17, 2022, 7:59 PM

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shush, my coding knowledge is like 0

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actually, this could be related to the player disconnecting the same second PES_Think

distant sun Jan 17, 2022, 8:27 PM

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BukkitPlayer is from PAPI, yes

static zealot Jan 17, 2022, 8:39 PM

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open shell an error related to an undefined variable appeared while using custom javascript...

try using Player instead of BukkitPlayer. but I doubt that will work if the other one doesn't work.

half harness Jan 17, 2022, 9:30 PM

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So for some reason, this server keeps crashing and the crash logs (the paper's unresponding messages) keep referencing to one of my GUIs.. but it's not any specific part, it seems random
Anyone know how i'd fix this?

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the server just randomly crashes :/

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https://paste.helpch.at/esetixejoh.md
here's from one crash

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(plugin name is ZombiesVSHumans)

agile galleon Jan 17, 2022, 9:42 PM

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Dkim moment

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 10:20 PM

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Is the best way to create a stopwatch to simply just create a runnable that adds 0.05 to a float every 1 tick or how are stopwatches made most effectively in spigot?

wintry plinth Jan 17, 2022, 10:22 PM

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Does it need to live tick up? If it doesn’t, just store date and time they do something, and the date and time they finish doing it

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 10:22 PM

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wintry plinth Does it need to live tick up? If it doesn’t, just store date and time they do so...

Oh yeah good idea! It's just to time a parkour

wintry plinth Jan 17, 2022, 10:23 PM

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timber oak Oh yeah good idea! It's just to time a parkour

Ah yeah, would be good to do that, then you can always add a placeholder which get the current time and the time they started if anything

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And get it on the fly

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 10:25 PM

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wintry plinth Ah yeah, would be good to do that, then you can always add a placeholder which g...

So you would just store this data in a map<player, list<date, date>> or what?

wintry plinth Jan 17, 2022, 10:26 PM

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timber oak So you would just store this data in a map<player, list<date, date>> or what?

Map<UUID, DateTime> being the time they started, and then have a method to get the current time taken, which would do current time - time from map

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Then you can format it as needed

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 10:27 PM

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wintry plinth Map<UUID, DateTime> being the time they started, and then have a method to get t...

ah yeah I only need to store one of the datetimes

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Tyvm

wintry plinth Jan 17, 2022, 10:27 PM

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Anytime :) and I’d go for UUID and avoid storing the player object

half harness Jan 17, 2022, 10:27 PM

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id recommend using Long instead of DateTime

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for timemillis

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 10:27 PM

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wintry plinth Anytime :) and I’d go for UUID and avoid storing the player object

Yeah good idea, I also need this in a DB so ye

sly sonnet Jan 17, 2022, 10:27 PM

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use Instant 😎

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then you can convert it to anything

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 10:28 PM

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half harness id recommend using Long instead of DateTime

I just need to format it to seconds - minutes etc. but yeah wouldn't be too difficult probably

half harness Jan 17, 2022, 10:28 PM

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ah

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 10:28 PM

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half harness id recommend using Long instead of DateTime

How would you even get the time in long?

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Trying to avoid using stopwatches

half harness Jan 17, 2022, 10:31 PM

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timber oak How would you even get the time in long?

System.currentTimeMillis()

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btw

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i didn't read anything up yet

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so

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 10:31 PM

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But Java.util.Date has milliseconds? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/19577958/java-date-and-timestamp

Stack Overflow

Java Date and Timestamp

Consider this code:-

    String t = "2013-10-05 09:10:37.029074";
    Timestamp ts = Timestamp.valueOf(t);

    Date d = new Date(ts.getTime());
    Timestamp ts2 = new java.sql.

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 10:41 PM

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don't use java.util.Date

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it's deprecated and is ass anyway

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 10:45 PM

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Oh, just created it using it... lol

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 10:45 PM

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obtuse gale don't use java.util.Date

What should I use instead of it?

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 10:46 PM

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Instant presumably

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dunno exactly what you're on about but that's the most general purpose class for "a point in time"

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 10:47 PM

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obtuse gale dunno exactly what you're on about but that's the most general purpose class for...

I want to time a parkour, so basically subtracting two times

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 10:48 PM

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d;Duration#between

ruby craterBOT Jan 17, 2022, 10:48 PM

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java.time.Duration#between

public static Duration between(Temporal startInclusive, Temporal endExclusive)
throws DateTimeException, ArithmeticException```

Description:

Obtains a Duration representing the duration between two temporal objects.

This calculates the duration between two temporal objects. If the objects are of different types, then the duration is calculated based on the type of the first object. For example, if the first argument is a LocalTime then the second argument is converted to a LocalTime.

The specified temporal objects must support the SECONDS unit. For full accuracy, either the NANOS unit or the NANO_OF_SECOND field should be supported.

The result of this method can be a negative period if the end is before the start. To guarantee to obtain a positive duration call abs() on the result.

Parameters:

startInclusive - the start instant, inclusive, not null
endExclusive - the end instant, exclusive, not null

Throws:

DateTimeException - if the seconds between the temporals cannot be obtained
ArithmeticException - if the calculation exceeds the capacity of Duration

Returns:

a Duration, not null

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 10:48 PM

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Instant implements Temporal fyi

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all of the "current"/"supported" api for time-related stuff is in java.time package

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 10:51 PM

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obtuse gale `Instant implements Temporal` fyi

I'm using java 16, will this not be a problem?

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 10:51 PM

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not in the slightest

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this thing has been around for literally ages

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 10:52 PM

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Oh, I just saw Java 17, but yeah. So if I don't have both times to begin with, I can store one of them as an Instant right?

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Also, shouldn't this work if Instant implements Temportal?

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Wait no... Only if it extends

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 10:54 PM

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well because not every Temporal is an Instant

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should be fine with using Instant btw

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for the Map value type

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 10:57 PM

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obtuse gale for the Map value type

Ohhh

                        Instant instantStart = parkourManager.getPlayerTimers().get(player.getUniqueId());
                        Instant instantEnd = Instant.now();

                        Duration duration = Duration.between(instantStart, instantEnd);

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I assume it's like this then

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 10:57 PM

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yeeeeee

wintry plinth Jan 17, 2022, 11:03 PM

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Today I learnt about “instant” shows how long I’ve been out the Java game

static zealot Jan 17, 2022, 11:04 PM

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I've learnt last year.

wintry plinth Jan 17, 2022, 11:05 PM

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Oh at least I don’t feel as bad now

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😂😂

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Was expecting a “dude this came out in 2014” 😂😂

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:07 PM

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Any tips on how I can store top 5 times on a parkour? I got the time differences and players stored separately atm.

static zealot Jan 17, 2022, 11:07 PM

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wintry plinth Was expecting a “dude this came out in 2014” 😂😂

pretty sure it came before 2014

wintry plinth Jan 17, 2022, 11:07 PM

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static zealot pretty sure it came before 2014

Don’t make me feel worse :(

prisma wave Jan 17, 2022, 11:08 PM

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It was with java 8 iirc

wintry plinth Jan 17, 2022, 11:08 PM

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timber oak Any tips on how I can store top 5 times on a parkour? I got the time differences...

How do you store the parkour times rn?

prisma wave Jan 17, 2022, 11:08 PM

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So I think that was 2014?

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Or earlier

static zealot Jan 17, 2022, 11:08 PM

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timber oak Any tips on how I can store top 5 times on a parkour? I got the time differences...

just store the best times for every player and then get best performance overall from there.

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:08 PM

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prisma wave So I think that was 2014?

2013 according to https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/time/Instant.html

prisma wave Jan 17, 2022, 11:08 PM

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Close enough

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:09 PM

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might've misunderstood but "There are currently, as of 2013, two segments in the Java time-scale. "

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:09 PM

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wintry plinth How do you store the parkour times rn?

                        Duration duration = Duration.between(instantStart, instantEnd);
                        long seconds = duration.toSeconds();
                        long millis = duration.toMillis();

                        player.sendMessage("Congratulations, you've finished the parkour in " + seconds + "." + millis + "s");

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:09 PM

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static zealot just store the best times for every player and then get best performance overall...

But how should those be stored? I need some kind of sorted map with every player and their best time

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:09 PM

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timber oak But how should those be stored? I need some kind of sorted map with every player...

do you want these times to be persistent

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:10 PM

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oblique heath do you want these times to be persistent

Not sure what you mean

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:10 PM

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do you want them to still exist after the server restarts

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or can the times be thrown away when the server goes down, if you're making like a minigame or something

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:11 PM

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I'll store them in MongoDB later on, yeah

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:11 PM

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okay

wintry plinth Jan 17, 2022, 11:11 PM

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Honestly if this was me doing it

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I’d store it into mysql

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Bloody phone

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:11 PM

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"myself" lmao

wintry plinth Jan 17, 2022, 11:11 PM

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Then you can use sql to sort it

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And yeah lol

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My phone wanted to replace mysql with myself

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Very silly

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:12 PM

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Kinda wanna learn mongodb though, already got plugins using mysql and sqlite

static zealot Jan 17, 2022, 11:13 PM

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timber oak But how should those be stored? I need some kind of sorted map with every player...

just store a map (uuid, performance_in_ms). that's the best repsonse I can give xD

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:14 PM

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static zealot just store a `map (uuid, performance_in_ms)`. that's the best repsonse I can giv...

But can maps even be sorted like that? Based on values

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:14 PM

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if you're asking how to store the 5 best times in memory, how about querying your db on startup for the 5 best times so far, then maintaining a sorted list of best times

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where an element in the list is a PlayerTime object that has the player uuid or whatever, and the time

static zealot Jan 17, 2022, 11:14 PM

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well you can make a custom method to find the top 5. or you can do as Ivan said, have a different map for best 5 and just update that map whenever a new better time is found

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:14 PM

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^

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i wouldn't use a map for best times though

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that doesn't really make sense

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:15 PM

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Why not?

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:15 PM

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why would you use a map

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:15 PM

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I need the username as well

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:15 PM

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a list is all you need

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okay if you need the username store a list of MyParkourPlayerTime objects

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where the object has both the time and the name

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no reason to use a map though

static zealot Jan 17, 2022, 11:15 PM

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yeah. if you have a PlayerTime object then a list is enough

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:16 PM

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Ohhh like a class called "PlayerTime" mb, I misunderstood

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:16 PM

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no worries

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:16 PM

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I don't see how that's easier than a map though

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:16 PM

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it's easier because it can be sorted according to the best time

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so you can just compare the last element in the list to any new times and instantly know if the new time can be in the top 5 (or however many)

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that is much harder to do if you have a map since maps are generally not sorted

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:18 PM

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oblique heath so you can just compare the last element in the list to any new times and instan...

So like just looping through the list and checking if the time inside the object is higher or lower?

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:18 PM

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you don't need to loop through the list if you sort the list

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your list will be sorted from best time to worst time

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:19 PM

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oblique heath you don't need to loop through the list if you sort the list

How can I do that based on a variable inside the object though?

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:19 PM

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you can implement the comparable interface to your MyParkourPlayerTime object and then use a built in sorting method (Collections.sort)

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or you can just sort the list yourself

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i mean it's a list you can do whatever you want to it

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:21 PM

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timber oak How can I do that based on a variable inside the object though?

if you're confused about variables inside the object; imagine a list of dogs. if i want to sort the dogs by age, i just call the Dog#getAge() method and use the result however i need to in order to sort the list

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:22 PM

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oblique heath if you're confused about variables inside the object; imagine a list of dogs. if...

Yeah I see what you mean, just confused how you would sort it based on that getter without looping through the list, when it's already created

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:23 PM

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well you have to loop through the list once in order to sort it initially, when you first build it onEnable

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(unless you can request your times in sorted order from mongodb which saves this step)

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:23 PM

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oblique heath well you have to loop through the list once in order to sort it initially, when ...

Yeah, whenever I add a new time I need to loop through it though

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:23 PM

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no

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:24 PM

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?

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:24 PM

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okay let me make a list of times

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lets say

1,23,47,399,456,459,600

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they are sorted from best time to worst

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:24 PM

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Yea

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:24 PM

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if i have a time 237

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i only need to look at a single time in the list to determine whether or not my new time belongs in the list

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i can compare 237 to the very last element in my ordered list, 600

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since 237 is smaller i know that 237 qualifies to be in the leaderboard and i can insert it like normal, then kick out 600

prisma wave Jan 17, 2022, 11:25 PM

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Consider a TreeSet / TreeMap which will provide logn gets and adds (might behave weirdly if your objects are mutable though)

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:26 PM

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doesnt treemap sort by key

prisma wave Jan 17, 2022, 11:26 PM

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I haven't read any previous messages btw

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Just saw sorting

prisma wave Jan 17, 2022, 11:26 PM

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oblique heath doesnt treemap sort by key

TreeSet then, with a comparator

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:26 PM

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treeset might be slightly better than a list then ye

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but the concept for both is very similar

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:26 PM

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oblique heath since 237 is smaller i know that 237 qualifies to be in the leaderboard and i ca...

It should also include the player's own best attempt though

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:26 PM

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timber oak It should also include the player's own best attempt though

in the global top 5?

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:26 PM

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Or well, that list doesnt have to

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:26 PM

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you can use something else for the player's personal best

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:27 PM

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Yeah true

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:27 PM

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as bm said you can use a treeset which gives you all the benefits of a sorted list except it offers faster insertion times for the new time

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:28 PM

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oblique heath as bm said you can use a treeset which gives you all the benefits of a sorted li...

Can it also sort objects though?

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:28 PM

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yes if you implement the comparable interface as he said

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treeset will sort objects within it by default

prisma wave Jan 17, 2022, 11:28 PM

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timber oak Can it also sort objects though?

The whole point is that it's always sorted

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:28 PM

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oblique heath treeset will sort objects within it by default

Based on what?

prisma wave Jan 17, 2022, 11:28 PM

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It internally keeps itself sorted in a much more efficient way

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based

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:28 PM

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they are required to be comparable

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so based on whatever they choose to implement for that

prisma wave Jan 17, 2022, 11:29 PM

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based

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:29 PM

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based

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basically you can choose how your objects are ordered

prisma wave Jan 17, 2022, 11:30 PM

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However as I said TreeSet can be weird when your objects are mutable so

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Conclusion mutability bad

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:30 PM

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mutable means they can change right?

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Because these objects will be able to change

prisma wave Jan 17, 2022, 11:30 PM

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prisma wave However as I said TreeSet can be weird when your objects are mutable so

Tbf the same is true for hash based data structures...

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Yes

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:30 PM

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not the contents of the list

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:30 PM

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They contain the players personal best

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I guess

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Not even sure

prisma wave Jan 17, 2022, 11:31 PM

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It won't automatically update the order if the objects internally change

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:31 PM

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you dont have to worry about mutability for this usecase valde

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as long as you dont go crazy

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:31 PM

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oblique heath you dont have to worry about mutability for this usecase valde

U sure? Even if I'm changing the duration variable inside the object?

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:31 PM

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player times don't exactly change afterwards, just add a new PlayerTime object containing the new personal best

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see that would be considered crazy

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dont do that

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:31 PM

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Ohhh

prisma wave Jan 17, 2022, 11:31 PM

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we do a little immutability

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😌

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:32 PM

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So you remove the old PlayerTime object and create a new one?

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:32 PM

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not necessarily

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if it's a global best then is it not possible for a single player to have more than one high scoring time

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like maybe i'm so godly i had 2 really good runs and got 2 of the top 5 times

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so basically add the new time like you would any other time

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the removal of the old 5th place time will be handled the same way as with any other time

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this ^ changes a bit though if you only want each player to have one entry on the global leaderbord at most though

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that makes things a lil harder

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:34 PM

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But won't I then just end up with a ton of those objects?

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:34 PM

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well the idea is each time you add an object to the leaderboard treeset you then remove the worst time

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to keep the size of the leaderboard constant

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:35 PM

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So how would having more than one time on the leaderboard work? I think I'm confusing myself with personal best and leaderboard, you should be able to have only one personal best ofc.

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:36 PM

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have you watched minecraft mondays

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:36 PM

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nope

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:36 PM

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okay well imagine this scenario

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youtubers are racing around the track

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at the end of the event, there is a leaderboard for the best times

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one youtuber did so well that both of his laps got on the leaderboard as having the fastest times

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lets say he got a 30 second and a 32 second lap

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that is first and second place on the leaderboard

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3rd place was someone else with 35, etc

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another example is having a high score on an arcade machine

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:37 PM

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oblique heath 3rd place was someone else with 35, etc

Makes sense

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:37 PM

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the same person can get more than one score on the leaderboard for an arcade machine

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okay

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:38 PM

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Not sure if I want someone to be able to have more than one time on the leaderboard or not

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What's easiest? lol

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Having multiple or limiting to one

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:38 PM

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easiest is to allow more than one time

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that is how it would work by default

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with no extra effort

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you need to do some extra checks if you only want one time per person

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:38 PM

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Ah yeah

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:38 PM

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and at that point you lose a bit* of the benefits of the sorted list/set

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well, not all

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:39 PM

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Okay so this should be immutable comparable, but not sure how the comparable method works

public class PlayerTime implements Comparable {
    private final Duration duration;
    private final UUID uuid;
    private final String username;

    public PlayerTime(Duration bestTime, UUID uuid, String username) {
        this.duration = bestTime;
        this.uuid = uuid;
        this.username = username;
    }

    public Duration getDuration() {
        return duration;
    }

    public UUID getUuid() {
        return uuid;
    }

    public String getUsername() {
        return username;
    }

    @Override
    public int compareTo(@NotNull Object o) {
        return 0;
    }

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I guess I have to specify the duration to sort

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 11:40 PM

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implements Comparable<PlayerTime> pls

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your IDE should be yelling at you real bad

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:40 PM

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int compareTo(T o)
Compares this object with the specified object for order. Returns a negative integer, zero, or a positive integer as this object is less than, equal to, or greater than the specified object.

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:40 PM

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obtuse gale implements Comparable<PlayerTime> pls

Oh, it was :))

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:41 PM

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oblique heath ``` int compareTo(T o) Compares this object with the specified object for order....

Compares based on what though? It has to compare based on the duration and not username for example

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 11:41 PM

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based on a value

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an internal value

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:41 PM

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if you want it to compare based on duration then do that

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 11:41 PM

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you're the one implementing the method, you can pick what it compares it to

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:42 PM

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obtuse gale you're the one implementing the method, you can pick what it compares it to

But how? lol I just don't understand what it compares to "internally" or how to specify it

prisma wave Jan 17, 2022, 11:42 PM

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based? based on what?

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ok that's enough

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:42 PM

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what you are doing right now is making a method for something else to use

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:43 PM

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prisma wave ok that's enough

oh no

oblique heath Jan 17, 2022, 11:43 PM

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they tell you how they want the method to behave (return a negative, 0, or positive value)

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you have to make that happen for your particular class

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 11:46 PM

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timber oak But how? lol I just don't understand what it compares to "internally" or how to ...

~~(Duration implements Comparable<Duration> anyway so you can just do return this.duration.compareTo(other.duration))~~
besides that, imagine you're making your own MyInteger class like so

class MyInteger {
  private int value;
  MyInteger(int value) { this.value = value; }

  int value() { return value; }
}

and now you want it to implement Comparable<MyInteger>, you can do this for instance

int compareTo(MyInteger other) {
  return this.value - other.value;
}

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you're the one defining the method, how it behaves, what you're comparing from your object

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:49 PM

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obtuse gale ~~(`Duration implements Comparable<Duration>` anyway so you can just do `return ...

But compareTo can only return an integer right?

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 11:49 PM

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yes

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:50 PM

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I guess I'll have to convert it to int then

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 11:50 PM

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read what I strikethrough'd lol

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:51 PM

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oml... lol

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Thank you...

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I'm getting too tired it seems

obtuse gale Jan 17, 2022, 11:54 PM

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yeah it can be exhausting

timber oak Jan 17, 2022, 11:59 PM

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Wanna ask how I then check if a duration would be top 5 in the set but I'll just wait till tmr when I'm not half asleep ig.

oblique heath Jan 18, 2022, 12:03 AM

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well you asked now so:

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just compare the new duration to the last element in the set

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if the new duration is better than the last element, it deserves to be in the leaderboard

rancid gazelle Jan 18, 2022, 1:32 AM

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what can I use yo export my dc dms?

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any idea?

static zealot Jan 18, 2022, 1:34 AM

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dc?

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what's that? @rancid gazelle

rancid gazelle Jan 18, 2022, 1:34 AM

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discord p-q

static zealot Jan 18, 2022, 1:35 AM

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oh. don't think there's a way to do that?

rancid gazelle Jan 18, 2022, 1:35 AM

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there is?

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one of the support said it but I didnt save the link p-q

static zealot Jan 18, 2022, 1:35 AM

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this? https://github.com/Tyrrrz/DiscordChatExporter

rancid gazelle Jan 18, 2022, 1:36 AM

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ya how do I use it

rancid gazelle Jan 18, 2022, 1:37 AM

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static zealot this? https://github.com/Tyrrrz/DiscordChatExporter

what perks do u get for boosting?

compact perchBOT Jan 18, 2022, 1:37 AM

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FAQ Answer:

https://paste.helpch.at/ifomeqolan.sql

rancid gazelle Jan 18, 2022, 1:37 AM

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just curious p-p

static zealot Jan 18, 2022, 1:37 AM

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compact perch

you can see them here

static zealot Jan 18, 2022, 1:37 AM

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rancid gazelle just curious p-p

well it does have a GUI does it not?

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just use that

rancid gazelle Jan 18, 2022, 1:38 AM

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okie how do I use https://github.com/Tyrrrz/DiscordChatExporter

static zealot Jan 18, 2022, 1:38 AM

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it has a gui. you download it from here: https://github.com/Tyrrrz/DiscordChatExporter/releases/tag/2.31.1

rancid gazelle Jan 18, 2022, 1:38 AM

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how do I download it

static zealot Jan 18, 2022, 1:39 AM

#

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you can then refer to their wiki on how to use: https://github.com/Tyrrrz/DiscordChatExporter/wiki/GUI%2C-CLI-and-Formats-explained#using-the-gui

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they do offer step by step instructions

rancid gazelle Jan 18, 2022, 1:53 AM

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okie tysm

humble silo Jan 18, 2022, 2:13 AM

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Does Maven central have some sort of api i can use to fetch artifacts? I dont want to use search.maven.orgs

quiet depot Jan 18, 2022, 2:14 AM

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why don't you do it the exact same way gradle/maven do it

humble silo Jan 18, 2022, 2:14 AM

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is that somewhere i can see?

quiet depot Jan 18, 2022, 2:15 AM

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both tools are open source

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but I doubt looking at their implementations would help you

humble silo Jan 18, 2022, 2:15 AM

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I dont wanna go digging around until i find something

quiet depot Jan 18, 2022, 2:15 AM

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maven repositories have a fairly simple structure, with metadata files that tell you everything you need to know

humble silo Jan 18, 2022, 2:15 AM

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that could take hours tbh

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ya, just wanted to know if there was a cleaner way to do it...

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Will the actual artifacts always be named "ID-VERSION.<whatever this is>"?

obtuse gale Jan 18, 2022, 2:20 AM

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wat

half harness Jan 18, 2022, 2:22 AM

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humble silo Will the actual artifacts always be named "ID-VERSION.<whatever this is>"?

It's ```
https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/GROUP_ID/ARTIFACT_ID/VERSION/ARTIFACT_ID-VERSION.jar

```gradle
org.jetbrains.kotlin:kotlin-stdlib-jdk8:1.6.10
```will be ```
https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/jetbrains/kotlin/kotlin-stdlib/1.6.10/kotlin-stdlib-1.6.10.jar
```for ex

Snapshots are different but I think that's how releases are

obtuse gale Jan 18, 2022, 2:24 AM

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nokotlin

humble silo Jan 18, 2022, 3:41 AM

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half harness It's ``` https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/GROUP_ID/ARTIFACT_ID/VERSION/ARTIFACT_ID...

Perfect, just to clarify, what if they publish a jar or artifact with the name not set to ARTIFACT_ID-VERSION.jar or something?

quiet depot Jan 18, 2022, 3:41 AM

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will be renamed

humble silo Jan 18, 2022, 3:42 AM

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ok ty

distant cipher Jan 18, 2022, 4:25 AM

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Anyone know why
"com.lunarclient.bukkitapi.LunarClientAPI.isRunningLunarClient(org.bukkit.entity.Player)" because "this.plugin.LunarAPI" is null

            player.sendMessage(ChatColor.BLUE + "You must be on Lunar Client to use this command");
            return false;
        }```

Main Class
```public LunarClientAPI LunarAPI = LunarClientAPI.getInstance();```

sly sonnet Jan 18, 2022, 5:26 AM

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#development

marble plaza Jan 18, 2022, 8:45 AM

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Hello! Does anyone know which characters does PaperMC "feature-seeds" parameter accept? Only numbers or characters as well? Length?
I could create random strings consisting of alphanumeric characters, length 100 or something.

wintry plinth Jan 18, 2022, 8:58 AM

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obtuse gale <:nokotlin:531226595952820224>

thinksmart

potent nest Jan 18, 2022, 9:35 AM

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marble plaza Hello! Does anyone know which characters does PaperMC "feature-seeds" parameter ...

pretty sure it's numbers only

pastel imp Jan 18, 2022, 10:31 AM

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Thoughts on toml file as config file?

sly sonnet Jan 18, 2022, 12:10 PM

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y tho

dim rampart Jan 18, 2022, 1:07 PM

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Whem can I get un service muted

obtuse gale Jan 18, 2022, 1:22 PM

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@echo steeple Accept my frienf request, please.

timber oak Jan 18, 2022, 2:16 PM

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oblique heath just compare the new duration to the last element in the set

Weirdly enough there's no way to get the last element without removing it as well. pollLast() get's the last element but removes it from the set at the same time?

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nvm.. there's .last()

steel heart Jan 18, 2022, 2:19 PM

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fingerguns

cinder flare Jan 18, 2022, 3:26 PM

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pastel imp Thoughts on toml file as config file?

hell yeah

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better than yaml for sure

dense dew Jan 18, 2022, 3:27 PM

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pastel imp Thoughts on toml file as config file?

sexy

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but if its for public plugin i would go w yml

pastel imp Jan 18, 2022, 3:29 PM

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dense dew but if its for public plugin i would go w yml

Suppose because most people know yml?

dense dew Jan 18, 2022, 3:42 PM

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yes

cinder flare Jan 18, 2022, 3:42 PM

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im sure anyone configuring a server can figure out toml

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and if we can change the default file format to toml, that would be great

pastel imp Jan 18, 2022, 3:47 PM

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The mini issue is, we arent enough

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To make an impact at least

cinder flare Jan 18, 2022, 3:49 PM

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Eh, I mean you say that now, but the more and more small people that do it, the better it gets

agile galleon Jan 18, 2022, 3:51 PM

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ye

distant sun Jan 18, 2022, 3:53 PM

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isnt toml the horrible one with [path.to.section]?

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I kinda like Hocon tbh

steel heart Jan 18, 2022, 4:05 PM

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I mean that’s the nicety with toml

forest pecan Jan 18, 2022, 4:46 PM

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distant sun isnt toml the horrible one with [path.to.section]?

its not horrible?

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lol

distant sun Jan 18, 2022, 4:47 PM

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kappa

forest pecan Jan 18, 2022, 5:06 PM

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distant sun kappa

It's not like JSON where it uses a shit load of curly brackets, but it isn't like YAML which uses spaces (which are horrible af). It also has the subsections which are readable rather than stupid spacing

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if you misstype a space or something you get a load of parse errors

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plus it may be easier for users to use because they don't have to focus on adding spaces and then complaining in support (why no work)

distant sun Jan 18, 2022, 5:07 PM

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yea, I see your point

timber oak Jan 18, 2022, 5:19 PM

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Is it possible to serialize and deserialize a hashmap? Containing UUID and an object

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for mongodb

ocean quartz Jan 18, 2022, 5:19 PM

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My issue with JSON isn't really the brackets but the quotes, way too much quotes

tranquil crane Jan 18, 2022, 5:19 PM

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so many quotes

obtuse gale Jan 18, 2022, 5:42 PM

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Is there an api on deluxmenus? 🙂

distant sun Jan 18, 2022, 5:43 PM

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No

steel heart Jan 18, 2022, 5:44 PM

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ocean quartz My issue with JSON isn't really the brackets but the quotes, way too much quotes

.properties /s

obtuse gale Jan 18, 2022, 5:47 PM

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ocean quartz My issue with JSON isn't really the brackets but the quotes, way too much quotes

that's where hocon comes into play fingerguns

ocean quartz Jan 18, 2022, 5:50 PM

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Hell yeah

sly sonnet Jan 18, 2022, 5:54 PM

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why config when you can hard-code things ??

pastel imp Jan 18, 2022, 6:34 PM

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Bruh

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Idk hocon

obtuse gale Jan 18, 2022, 6:38 PM

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it's json for dummies

hot hull Jan 18, 2022, 6:44 PM

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Hocon best

wintry plinth Jan 18, 2022, 6:53 PM

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Get all the Ho’s

lavish notch Jan 18, 2022, 7:35 PM

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ocean quartz My issue with JSON isn't really the brackets but the quotes, way too much quotes

I've seen a lot of "premium" plugins use JSON for configs.

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By premium, I mean like $100+ plugins that aren't featured on spigot or MCM resources (but rather advertised in threads)

obtuse gale Jan 18, 2022, 7:38 PM

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i mean

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nothing especially wrong with that ¯_(ツ)_/¯

obtuse gale Jan 18, 2022, 8:16 PM

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i mean yaml is easier to use, it's just json without any brackets and quotes

hot hull Jan 18, 2022, 8:21 PM

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fuck yaml

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heck out with yaml

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outdated

pastel imp Jan 18, 2022, 8:31 PM

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sly sonnet Jan 18, 2022, 8:39 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/config-issue-gif-23050772

Tenor

forest pecan Jan 18, 2022, 9:53 PM

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people who use yaml to store data 🤸‍♂️ 🗑️

lavish notch Jan 18, 2022, 9:53 PM

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lets use txt files lol

agile galleon Jan 18, 2022, 9:53 PM

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No

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Lets use....

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Folders

pastel imp Jan 18, 2022, 10:55 PM

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sus ngl

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I mean, it can work

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xD

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You name a folder players

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then add a folder with the player's uuid

agile galleon Jan 18, 2022, 10:55 PM

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Yes it does work

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Ive made a system like that once

pastel imp Jan 18, 2022, 10:55 PM

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then add whatever type of file with the name and value of each thing you wanna store

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xD

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voila

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you don't even need to open the file

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the name is the value

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js92Pogzil

agile galleon Jan 18, 2022, 10:56 PM

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Yes

restive ravine Jan 18, 2022, 11:09 PM

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@obtuse gale is that ANOTHER redesign 👀

obtuse gale Jan 18, 2022, 11:09 PM

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restive ravine <@456226577798135808> is that ANOTHER redesign 👀

yes. 😢

long dagger Jan 19, 2022, 12:53 AM

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I have made the backend of a bedwars plugin, how would I go about sending players to a bedwars game? The bedwars game will be on a different server than the lobby, I know how to do that, but how do I select what world to send the player to based on the game status? The lobby cant access the bedwars plugin, maybe through bungeecord messaging?

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and I want the player to choose a gamemode and map through a npc

oblique heath Jan 19, 2022, 1:10 AM

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long dagger I have made the backend of a bedwars plugin, how would I go about sending player...

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you can also use a 'real' messaging service to do the same thing like redis or rabbitmq but they require you to run their dedicated server alongside the minecraft instances, this will not - all it requires is an open port (1+) for the plugins to talk through

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regardless of what you choose to use, tracking the game status should be trivial: send a message to bungee / your minigame manager from the server where the game state has updated, including the server name and the new status as parameters. On the manager side, you can just listen for the messages and update your map or whatever you use internally accordingly

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also out of curiosity, are you dynamically allocating minecraft instances for your minigame? or will you just have a set number of servers running

long dagger Jan 19, 2022, 1:34 AM

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oblique heath also out of curiosity, are you dynamically allocating minecraft instances for yo...

maybe both

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idk

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not for a while

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for the start just a set number of servers running

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what does Hypixel do?

oblique heath Jan 19, 2022, 1:35 AM

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i imagine they dynamically allocate, at least to some degree

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i haven't kept up with their dev blogs enough to know if they ever confirmed anything about that though

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I'm in the process of doing a very similar dynamic-allocation project where i deploy new minecraft instances using docker swarm (soon to be k8s)

long dagger Jan 19, 2022, 1:37 AM

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oblique heath I'm in the process of doing a very similar dynamic-allocation project where i de...

cool

oblique heath Jan 19, 2022, 1:46 AM

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if it's just that and no unique abilities then a yml file works great

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i'm assuming class is going to be replaced with the name of the class

obtuse gale Jan 19, 2022, 1:49 AM

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ah tru

oblique heath Jan 19, 2022, 1:50 AM

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so you'll probably end up with something like

archer:
  name: "Archer"
  rank: "class.archer"
  color: RED
  effects:
    - type: RESISTANCE
      potency: 1
    - type: SPEED
      potency: 2
  dmgboost: 5.5

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i would personally do effects as i showed there, where you store a list of them

obtuse gale Jan 19, 2022, 1:51 AM

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that does seem a lot cleaner

oblique heath Jan 19, 2022, 1:51 AM

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but you can also do

effects:
    resistance: 1
    speed: 2

obtuse gale Jan 19, 2022, 1:51 AM

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xD

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thx for ur help btw @oblique heath :)

oblique heath Jan 19, 2022, 1:53 AM

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sure thing

obtuse gale Jan 19, 2022, 1:53 AM

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is there like a kudos system in this serverrr

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onlyfans.com/Ivan8or

oblique heath Jan 19, 2022, 1:54 AM

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only 12.99 a month

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you can also @ everyone and tell them im really cool

obtuse gale Jan 19, 2022, 1:55 AM

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ofc ofc egwEgirlKiss

burnt path Jan 19, 2022, 3:22 AM

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hey is there a way I can make my placeholders work after a plugin is unloaded and loaded again?

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I have the unregister method in my onDisable()

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however when I do that, the placeholders just stop changing basically and stay the same until server restart

humble silo Jan 19, 2022, 4:06 AM

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Anyone know of a decent way to parse maven pom files on the fly? Or a way to load a dependency(with all of its dependencies) from maven central at runtime? Ive been trying to parse the pom files myself and the minute it gets into properties its literally impossible...

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ugh, well i may have figured it out actually, just have to go looking through the parent pom too....

quiet depot Jan 19, 2022, 5:00 AM

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@humble silo maven provides an api

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trying to find what it's called

humble silo Jan 19, 2022, 5:01 AM

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quiet depot <@!579159669784838144> maven provides an api

You mean the search.maven.org thing?

quiet depot Jan 19, 2022, 5:01 AM

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no..

humble silo Jan 19, 2022, 5:01 AM

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Ive seen that, couldnt find a way to load all dependencies

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a http api?

quiet depot Jan 19, 2022, 5:01 AM

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https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.apache.maven/maven-repository-metadata there's this one for reading maven metadata

humble silo Jan 19, 2022, 5:01 AM

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or a library

humble silo Jan 19, 2022, 5:02 AM

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quiet depot https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.apache.maven/maven-repository-metadata th...

Does it just do meta data?

quiet depot Jan 19, 2022, 5:02 AM

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there's one for the pom

humble silo Jan 19, 2022, 5:02 AM

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can you send that one too?

quiet depot Jan 19, 2022, 5:02 AM

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i'm trying to find it

humble silo Jan 19, 2022, 5:02 AM

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oh ok cool

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ty for the help

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Its not too large is it?

quiet depot Jan 19, 2022, 5:02 AM

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https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.apache.maven/maven-project maybe this

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no clue

humble silo Jan 19, 2022, 5:03 AM

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alr

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ig i can check

humble silo Jan 19, 2022, 5:04 AM

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quiet depot https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.apache.maven/maven-project maybe this

you have any docs on those? i cant find any for that one in particular

quiet depot Jan 19, 2022, 5:06 AM

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https://maven.apache.org/ref/3.8.4/

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all maven docs are there

humble silo Jan 19, 2022, 5:08 AM

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This is kinda starting to look pretty heavyweight

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ty for the help, ill look at it a bit longer, but I was almost done writing a implementation myself

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Alright, thanks! I super appreciate it!

compact perchBOT Jan 19, 2022, 8:08 AM

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FAQ Answer:

» Give the helpers some details
» Ask suitable questions
» Be polite
» Wait

Source

distant sun Jan 19, 2022, 9:56 AM

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Any idea why when I add a new module, IIJ expands all the other modules?

wintry plinth Jan 19, 2022, 11:22 AM

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https://twitter.com/ShawnWildermuth/status/1439986545549795332?s=20

Shawn Wildermuth #000000 { lives: matter; } (@ShawnWildermuth)

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static zealot Jan 19, 2022, 11:34 AM

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seems safe to me

distant sun Jan 19, 2022, 11:45 AM

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wintry plinth https://twitter.com/ShawnWildermuth/status/1439986545549795332?s=20

when you forget debug mode on

wintry plinth Jan 19, 2022, 11:52 AM

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distant sun when you forget debug mode on

hahaha yes very true 😂

obtuse gale Jan 19, 2022, 1:42 PM

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Help me wit my server
this is Helpchat server right ?

agile galleon Jan 19, 2022, 1:44 PM

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no

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this is Santa Clause Christmas Gift Studios

wary python Jan 19, 2022, 1:45 PM

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Where can I find the deluxechat dev builds?

obtuse gale Jan 19, 2022, 1:46 PM

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agile galleon this is Santa Clause Christmas Gift Studios

dis is "HelpChat" server bro

agile galleon Jan 19, 2022, 1:47 PM

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that was a joke pepered

ocean quartz Jan 19, 2022, 1:58 PM

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wary python Where can I find the deluxechat dev builds?

Head to #spigot-linking then #deluxechat and check pinned message

brittle leaf Jan 19, 2022, 2:13 PM

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obtuse gale Help me wit my server this is Helpchat server right ?

Help with what exactly?

distant sun Jan 19, 2022, 2:45 PM

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@gusty glen Any specific reason why you turn an EnumSet into an unmodifiable Set? https://github.com/TriumphTeam/triumph-gui/blob/master/core/src/main/java/dev/triumphteam/gui/guis/InteractionModifierListener.java#L224-L242

obtuse gale Jan 19, 2022, 2:49 PM

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Mutability bad

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Why wouldn't you turn those into unmodifiable sets? You wouldn't want those to be changed

ocean quartz Jan 19, 2022, 2:52 PM

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Wouldn't that copy it to a different set and kinda lose the advantages of an EnumSet?

obtuse gale Jan 19, 2022, 2:52 PM

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No, Coll.unmodifiableSet wraps it and delegates to the given set (except mutating operations)

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It's not Set.copyOf

ocean quartz Jan 19, 2022, 2:52 PM

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Ah gotcha

distant sun Jan 19, 2022, 2:53 PM

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smart

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I see there's also Sets#immutableEnumSet 🤔

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I thought that EnumSets are already immutable, welp

obtuse gale Jan 19, 2022, 2:57 PM

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distant sun I see there's also Sets#immutableEnumSet 🤔

Yeah that's guava

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Effectively it's no different, it probably just skips the delegation part and is an immutable enumset impl itself

pastel imp Jan 19, 2022, 2:57 PM

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uh, anyone knows if saberfactions uses massive factions plugin/code?

distant sun Jan 19, 2022, 2:58 PM

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Yeah, very nice Emily

wary python Jan 19, 2022, 3:35 PM

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ocean quartz Head to <#605715595689984011> then <#587475621555339264> and check pinned messag...

I linked it and purchased the plugin but nothing showing - won't let me use /spigot check either

ocean quartz Jan 19, 2022, 3:37 PM

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You'll have to wait till the database updates, then you'll get access to the channel

wary python Jan 19, 2022, 3:44 PM

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Ok thanks

brittle leaf Jan 19, 2022, 5:01 PM

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Is 1.12.2 a more acceptable version to code for then 1.8?

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i say this more in terms of performance since 1.13+ basically ruined server performance and hasnt caught up with 1.12 fully yet

agile galleon Jan 19, 2022, 5:22 PM

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just go with 1.18

obtuse gale Jan 19, 2022, 5:23 PM

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1.13 and 1.14 were disastrous for performance

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from then on it's really solid and kept improving

agile galleon Jan 19, 2022, 5:46 PM

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yep

obtuse gale Jan 19, 2022, 6:00 PM

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@autumn stump can you accept my friend request?

static zealot Jan 19, 2022, 6:26 PM

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So today I've updated some packages using the Pop Store (on Pop OS) and now Jetbrains Rider recommends me to use stuff like is not instead of !(X is Y) but when I try to build it breaks and throws a "Type Or Namespace not found"... I'm not sure what packages got updated. Also its a C# project. could it be that dotnet got updated and now Rider reads that but it actually builds against an older version? If so how could I fix this? I know I can just ignore and not make the recommended changes but still.

timber oak Jan 19, 2022, 8:21 PM

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What's best, Bukkit Logger or slf4j logger - both in 1.17.1

prisma wave Jan 19, 2022, 8:25 PM

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"bukkit logger" is just the jdk logging library

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i prefer slf4j personally but they do the same thing in most ways

obtuse gale Jan 19, 2022, 8:27 PM

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com.mojang:logging

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with its amazing toString deferrer

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/821820809642246185/933409394014707712/unknown.png

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mojussy

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ate

prisma wave Jan 19, 2022, 8:28 PM

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?

timber oak Jan 19, 2022, 8:29 PM

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prisma wave i prefer slf4j personally but they do the same thing in most ways

What's better with slf4j?

prisma wave Jan 19, 2022, 8:29 PM

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its log level names make sense

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jdk with "fine" and "severe"

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slf4j with "error" and "trace"

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also it can do formatting for you to a degree

timber oak Jan 19, 2022, 8:32 PM

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Alright, I'll just keep using slf4j then

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ty

half harness Jan 19, 2022, 8:35 PM

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timber oak What's best, Bukkit Logger or slf4j logger - both in 1.17.1

btw shouldn't you just use the bukkit logger? or else you'd have multiple formatting types in console 🤔

timber oak Jan 19, 2022, 8:39 PM

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half harness btw shouldn't you just use the bukkit logger? or else you'd have multiple format...

Wdym? I want to decide between the two, atm I'm only using slf4j

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which I'll keep doing I think

half harness Jan 19, 2022, 8:39 PM

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timber oak Wdym? I want to decide between the two, atm I'm only using slf4j

but bukkit already uses one

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unless u mean in a separate program?

timber oak Jan 19, 2022, 8:39 PM

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half harness unless u mean in a separate program?

huh? I mean in the server

half harness Jan 19, 2022, 8:39 PM

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timber oak huh? I mean in the server

then bukkit already has one so idk if using another one would work with compatibility

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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idk

timber oak Jan 19, 2022, 8:40 PM

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Also the formatting is the same

half harness Jan 19, 2022, 8:40 PM

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idk what lib bukkit uses

timber oak Jan 19, 2022, 8:40 PM

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The warn was sent with slf4j

half harness Jan 19, 2022, 8:40 PM

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🤔

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uh

timber oak Jan 19, 2022, 8:40 PM

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Ye?

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[21:38:25 WARN]: [net.valdemarf.parkourplugin.playertime.PlayerTimeManager] A document has been found! - Leaderboard
[21:38:25 WARN]: [net.valdemarf.parkourplugin.playertime.PlayerTimeManager] A document has been found! - PersonalBests

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It just shows where it was sent from

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Pretty nice imo

half harness Jan 19, 2022, 8:43 PM

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oh wait

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spigot uses slf4j

prisma wave Jan 19, 2022, 8:43 PM

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it uses log4j actually

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😏

half harness Jan 19, 2022, 8:43 PM

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but

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oh

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but

prisma wave Jan 19, 2022, 8:43 PM

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but slf4j too

half harness Jan 19, 2022, 8:43 PM

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okay

prisma wave Jan 19, 2022, 8:43 PM

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slf4j is the api

half harness Jan 19, 2022, 8:43 PM

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idk i still get confused with that

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😖

prisma wave Jan 19, 2022, 8:43 PM

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iirc the jdk logger delegates to an slf4j logger anyway

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so

shy pewter Jan 19, 2022, 8:54 PM

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hi, Ive got two questions about deluxe menus.

when someone trade a object for other in a menu. He can have it in second hand and will get infinite of the item to get. Is there a way to fix it?
how does the [sound] event-thing work?

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ping me at response

half harness Jan 19, 2022, 8:57 PM

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shy pewter hi, Ive got two questions about deluxe menus. 1) when someone trade a object fo...

#general-plugins / #general-plugins-2

shy pewter Jan 19, 2022, 8:57 PM

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oh.. thanks... sorry. Im new at this discord

obtuse gale Jan 19, 2022, 9:24 PM

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prisma wave iirc the jdk logger delegates to an slf4j logger anyway

Also there's j.u.l. and java.lang.System.Logger lol

prisma wave Jan 19, 2022, 11:15 PM

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juul

timber oak Jan 19, 2022, 11:20 PM

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If someone would take there time to review my plugin it would be amazing! Or just a part of it if someone wants - anything would be appreciated

https://github.com/ValdemarF20/ParkourPlugin

gusty glen Jan 19, 2022, 11:53 PM

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distant sun <@!274229586961629185> Any specific reason why you turn an EnumSet into an unmod...

Because mutability is bad (in this case), also it help maintainers because it signalizes that these values will never change in runtime (without them having to look every bit of code in the library).

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 12:03 AM

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Don’t think that matters in this case, like it’s just internal as well and I’d assume that listener is only instantiated once on the main thread.

obtuse gale Jan 20, 2022, 12:16 AM

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There's no reason for those to be modifiable

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They're more like constants

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 12:24 AM

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Would this class be able to be final since all variables are? https://paste.helpch.at/hunomemeqe.java

onyx loom Jan 20, 2022, 12:25 AM

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adding final to a class means that it cant be extended by other classes

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so if ur not extending it, sure

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 12:26 AM

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onyx loom adding final to a class means that it cant be extended by other classes

I thought only interfaces could be extended?

half harness Jan 20, 2022, 12:26 AM

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timber oak I thought only interfaces could be extended?

nope

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:)

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 12:26 AM

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Oh, well no classes in my project are being extended, so should I make them final?

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Or is it not as important as it is for variables?

forest pecan Jan 20, 2022, 12:28 AM

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timber oak I thought only interfaces could be extended?

everything in java extends Object

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except primitives

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and Object is a class

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 12:28 AM

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Oh yeah true

forest pecan Jan 20, 2022, 12:28 AM

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but by default you dont have to add to add extends Object

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cause java already assumes

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 12:29 AM

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So should I add the final to all my classes? I extend none of them

onyx loom Jan 20, 2022, 12:30 AM

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timber oak Oh, well no classes in my project are being extended, so should I make them fina...

its up to u, if u dont want this class to be extended by anyone, then make it final, but maybe if u want to let other people to extend the class, lets say in an api, then sure leave it non final for example
it all depends on each classes usage etc
i add it to my classes because it looks cool cct

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 12:31 AM

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onyx loom its up to u, if u dont want this class to be extended by anyone, then make it fi...

Hmm well it won't be an API, that much I know. And the plugin is finished, other than fixing the performance. So I think I'll just make then final

cinder flare Jan 20, 2022, 12:52 AM

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timber oak I thought only interfaces could be extended?

interfaces can be implemented, classes can be extended

humble silo Jan 20, 2022, 12:56 AM

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All of that is literally just for a couple spring dependencies... Im pretty sure alot of artifacts are gettting loaded twice tho

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~1,500 dependencies

rancid gazelle Jan 20, 2022, 1:48 AM

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whats a good rtp plugin that allows configurable cooldowns? but like dif cooldowns for dif ranks. if u know pls let me know! ping me or dm me!

tardy knot Jan 20, 2022, 1:54 AM

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rancid gazelle whats a good `rtp` plugin that allows configurable cooldowns? but like dif coold...

BetterTP or Wilderness-Tp come to mind, but they don't do the per rank kind of thing you're wanting

rancid gazelle Jan 20, 2022, 2:07 AM

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tardy knot BetterTP or Wilderness-Tp come to mind, but they don't do the per rank kind of t...

do u know one thats per rank?

tardy knot Jan 20, 2022, 2:09 AM

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none that come to mind

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but there's got to be a way right?

rancid gazelle Jan 20, 2022, 2:12 AM

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i think so?

rancid gazelle Jan 20, 2022, 2:14 AM

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tardy knot none that come to mind

U know a rtp plugin that has a bypass cooldown permission node?

tardy knot Jan 20, 2022, 2:16 AM

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i think both of the ones above have a bypass option

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?

rancid gazelle Jan 20, 2022, 2:25 AM

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tardy knot i think both of the ones above have a bypass option

acn u send the link

quaint isle Jan 20, 2022, 7:50 AM

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How tf do you send an HTML email if you only got source code?
I just wrote a nicely looking newsletter template, just to found out there is no way to paste code into outlook 😄
Do you know any software that can do it? I know I could code something but I suppose there's an easier way.

worldly anchor Jan 20, 2022, 8:51 AM

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quaint isle **How tf do you send an HTML email if you only got source code?** I just wrote a...

you can boot up your own smtp server to send the emails, inputting your html as raw, or you can use thunderbird, which allows you to inject html into your emails.

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mailchimp as a mail api also supports triggering html emails

quaint isle Jan 20, 2022, 9:00 AM

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I want to send from an already existing mail account, so imma give thunderbird a try, thank you.

glossy plover Jan 20, 2022, 9:10 AM

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@quick flume about ur deluxe shop, how does it work? How can I link it to gems economy money? How do I change the prices? Does it sell everything?

obtuse gale Jan 20, 2022, 11:20 AM

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Linked my spigot account and will not let me access deluxechat channel,so i can get a dev build?

compact perchBOT Jan 20, 2022, 11:21 AM

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FAQ Answer:

Have you linked your spigot account and don't have the premium plugin role yet?

Spigot doesn't allow us to check for buyers automatically, so we have to do it manually. This means that we can only update the buyers list in our system every 24-48 hours.

If you wish to see when the database was last updated, you can by using the /buyercheck status command.
Once the buyer's list has been updated for that plugin, you can recheck your roles by using the /spigot check command, then you should have the role, and will be able to view the respected plugin's channel!

static zealot Jan 20, 2022, 11:21 AM

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read this please ^^^

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it just got updated

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recheck your roles

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there you go

obtuse gale Jan 20, 2022, 11:23 AM

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thanks much sir

hybrid isle Jan 20, 2022, 12:32 PM

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My essentialsX keeps removing all the userdata of who's on while server restart 2 times or /rl confirm 2 times. please help

quick flume Jan 20, 2022, 2:21 PM

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glossy plover <@135528145041227776> about ur deluxe shop, how does it work? How can I link it ...

Well I generated the current item list (changeable in Placeholder/deluxeshop.yml) from all mats that I could

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to link to gems economy should be as easy as changing the requirements/commands from essentials economy requirements/commands

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oh shoot, you will also need to edit the dmshop-maxpurchase.js from%vault_eco_balance% to your placeholder

quaint isle Jan 20, 2022, 4:25 PM

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worldly anchor you can boot up your own smtp server to send the emails, inputting your html as ...

Thunderbird did the job, thank you!
Why tf does outlook not allow this tho, you can import the weirdest shit but not use HTML code to send an HTML email?! 🤷‍♀️

worldly anchor Jan 20, 2022, 4:35 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 5:24 PM

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Is it generally bad to have all managers and instances in the main class?

ocean quartz Jan 20, 2022, 5:24 PM

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The managers not really, the plugin instance yes

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 5:25 PM

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ocean quartz The managers not really, the plugin instance yes

The getInstance()?

ocean quartz Jan 20, 2022, 5:25 PM

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Yeah, use Dependency Injection instead

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 6:54 PM

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timber oak Is it generally bad to have all managers and instances in the main class?

I feel like you could pass some of the managers directly as opposed to the plugin instance and then invoke MyPlugin::getThisManager

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Especially if you unit test, having direct rather than indirect dependencies will help with for instance "mock"-ability

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 6:56 PM

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steel heart Especially if you unit test, having direct rather than indirect dependencies wil...

No idea what you're talking about here tbh lol

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 6:56 PM

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And needless to say, I believe you achieve a class hierarchy where not every concretion is dependent on the highest ordered class, as such maintaining the overall system and having reusable classes will become easier and more accessible.

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automated testing

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not many devs do it for spigot plugins because just testing something (such as a command or that an event triggers) directly isn't that complicated

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 6:59 PM

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Ah I definitely am passing most of the managers through DI, but sometimes it can be very messy and then I decide to use the getter from the main class, if I just need the instance once or smth.

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 7:01 PM

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hmm 🤷

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like I guess your main class can act like a context facade (problem is just, if its one of the highest classes, a lot of other classes will subsequently have to depend on that context facade)

tranquil crane Jan 20, 2022, 7:01 PM

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I typically have a method in my main plugin class called <T extends Manager> getManager(Class<T> managerClass) which fetches the instance of the manager class given from a map I initialize when the plugin loads, that way I can just do ExampleManager manager = plugin.getManager(ExampleManager.class); whenever I need it

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it just keeps the number of getters down in the main class, though I'm sure there are some people out there who are going to flame me for it lol

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 7:04 PM

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steel heart like I guess your main class can act like a context facade (problem is just, if ...

Not sure what you mean by this

problem is just, if its one of the highest classes, a lot of other classes will subsequently have to depend on that context facade

What would a "higher" class be?

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 7:04 PM

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so for instance you know how your main class has the function onEnable

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which then in there, it instantiates all your managers in one or another way

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so it bootstraps the plugin (sort of a self growing process)

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 7:05 PM

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tranquil crane I typically have a method in my main plugin class called `<T extends Manager> ge...

It's a problem if the manager needs to extend another class as well though

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 7:06 PM

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steel heart so for instance you know how your main class has the function onEnable

Yeah this

        // Register objects
        checkpointManager = new CheckpointManager(this);
        checkpointManager.setupDataFolder();

        ConfigManager configManager = new ConfigManager(this);
        configManager.instantiate();
        playerTimeManager = new PlayerTimeManager();
        database = new Database(configManager, this);

        PaperCommandManager manager = new PaperCommandManager(this);
        scoreboardManager = new ScoreboardManager(this);
        parkourManager = new ParkourManager(scoreboardManager);

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 7:06 PM

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mhm

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 7:06 PM

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steel heart so it bootstraps the plugin (sort of a self growing process)

wdym with bootstraps though

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 7:06 PM

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bootstrap - self growing process iirc

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because once the bootstrap proceeds, a lot of other objects such as your managers will be created

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now I call it highest ordered which might not be the perfect term, but its due to this, it has the responsibility setup your plugin either, directly or indirectly

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 7:08 PM

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timber oak Yeah this ```java // Register objects checkpointManager = new Ch...

When you're saying bootstrap, do you mean this?

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Like the order of instances

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 7:08 PM

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by providing a set of accessors(getters) we give it yet another responsibility, thus yet another major reason it might have to be changed in the future, so arguably it breaks sth called the single responsibility principle as it acts as a context facade as well as the bootstrap

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From wiki

In general, bootstrapping usually refers to a self-starting process that is supposed to continue or grow without external input.

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 7:11 PM

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steel heart by providing a set of accessors(getters) we give it yet another responsibility, ...

Hmm I think I understand. It's a bootstrapping process because it will go through and create the objects without external input?

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 7:12 PM

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yep

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 7:12 PM

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And how about the context facade? Never heard of that before

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 7:12 PM

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a context object is an object which couples a set of other objects

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in simple terms, it simple acts like a vessel to access other objects

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for instance, Event classes can usually be seen as that

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a facade is a facade, its the face of something where you don't know what's, how and the complexity that happens behind it, a good example would be most interfaces in paper

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your plugin main class isn't really a strong facade, but the methods do abstract away the way of reaching out to your plugin instance's internals directly

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obv it can be quite nice to just pass the plugin instance along with all of its getters

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 7:17 PM

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Ummm, this is very confusing but I think I understand, kinda. So the issue is really that I instantiate the objects in the main class, but it's also the "vessel" for the objects, which can cause problems when the new objects are initializing?

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 7:18 PM

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it doesn't cause any direct issue

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like having it that way is manageable

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its just that your entire system becomes ridiculously coupled to that class of yours

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 7:18 PM

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Because if the order is wrong it will cause errors, right? Or not that way coupled

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 7:19 PM

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yes

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I mean

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you cannot call the function open() before the function close() for a file object or sth

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since open causes a side effect

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as well as close

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 7:20 PM

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Makes sense

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 7:20 PM

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(side effect is just when a function may return or do something differently in spite given the same input)

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for instance this is a non side effect function

int multiply(x,y){
  return x*y;
}

this will be one:

static int i;

void setI(i) {
  self.i = i;
}

int getI() {
  return self.i;
}```

distant sun Jan 20, 2022, 7:22 PM

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self.i

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 7:22 PM

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ye

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its my own brogramming language

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 7:24 PM

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steel heart for instance this is a non side effect function ``` int multiply(x,y){ return ...

It's non side effect because it doesn't use external functions or classes right? Or did I misunderstand

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 7:24 PM

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Well

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if you have a side effect free function

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You should be able to remember the given output for a given input

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If you know the input, you know what output you’ll get

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However getI for instance can return differently in spite of the same input (no input)

ocean quartz Jan 20, 2022, 7:25 PM

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tranquil crane I typically have a method in my main plugin class called `<T extends Manager> ge...

Ayy nice, I do something similar, definitely not copied from ktor, val manager = plugin.feature(ExampleManager)

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 7:25 PM

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and the first one doesn’t even return anything

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 7:26 PM

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So this would have side effect:
If playerTimeManager depends on database in the playerTimeManager constructor

        playerTimeManager = new PlayerTimeManager();
        database = new Database(configManager, this);

Since database hasn't been instantiated?

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 7:26 PM

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Yes

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 7:26 PM

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Like playerTimeManager uses a function from database or smth

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 7:26 PM

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Assume that’s inside a function

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It changed the state of your system

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so it’s impure

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Or well, not side effect free

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Anyways Valdemar

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There are cons and pros to everything

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 7:28 PM

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steel heart Or well, not side effect free

I think I understand

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 7:28 PM

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So having all those getters might not be entirely wrong

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But it’s definitely something to think about

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 7:29 PM

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Yeah, I can see how, I just need to look more into which of my managers are side-effect free I think

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Because the order of the managers sometimes causes an error rn

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 7:29 PM

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Oh no

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Don’t try to avoid side effects but try to minimize them if possible

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 7:30 PM

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Yeah yeah I know, I'm just running the side-effect free ones first, since the ones that are not side effect free might depend on them

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 7:30 PM

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The classical sign of a side effect is where depending on the order of in which the functions are declared may lead to an explosion or not

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 7:31 PM

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Yeah, I'll try and minimize my getters then, it'll also help later on if it gets more messy ig

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 7:31 PM

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Well think about it

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If your main class provides everything

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then almost everything must depend on the main class simply

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 7:32 PM

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steel heart then almost everything must depend on the main class simply

Yeah and it sadly does right now

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Most of the classes at least

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Which is not nice

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 7:33 PM

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Yeah, the side effect thing isn’t as important rn

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After all you write Java, object oriented code.

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 7:34 PM

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I'd just like if I could use the main class yet, because it's included in pretty much all classes atm

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I could avoid it with using more DI I guess

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 7:34 PM

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The word di sounds very extravagant

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But yeah, just passing objects directly can benefit you sometimes

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Design choices always yield cons and pros

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 7:36 PM

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steel heart The word di sounds very extravagant

extravagant? Sorry my English is not the best lol

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 7:36 PM

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Actually that’s the wrong word

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But it’s an advanced term for yet a simple thing

timber oak Jan 20, 2022, 7:38 PM

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steel heart But it’s an advanced term for yet a simple thing

Ohh yeah true, DI is very simple, it's just a bit messy sometimes imo, idk why but I just prefer having 1-2 dependencies in a class, max.

steel heart Jan 20, 2022, 7:39 PM

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I mean you would get 1-2 dependencies normally

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Or eventually 3

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Sometimes even four or five

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But it gets a bit hard to manage stuff that takes many inputs