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humble silo Oct 7, 2021, 3:54 AM

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lol it would probably throw a overflow if you tried to add anything, there are no bits in java right?

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like thats not a thing?

forest pecan Oct 7, 2021, 3:55 AM

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If you consider boolean

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A bit

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Lol

obtuse gale Oct 7, 2021, 3:55 AM

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The least amount of storage you can use is a byte

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And even then, in a good number of cases, booleans, bytes, chars and shorts are promoted to ints

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Which sucks booty

forest pecan Oct 7, 2021, 3:56 AM

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Yeah just realized

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Idk how bit set works, could be just an array of ints kek

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d;bitset

ruby craterBOT Oct 7, 2021, 3:57 AM

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java.util.BitSet

public class BitSet
extends Object
implements Cloneable, Serializable```
BitSet has 1 extensions, 2 implementations, 26 methods, and  2 all implementations.

Since:

1.0

Description:

This class implements a vector of bits that grows as needed. Each component of the bit set has a boolean value. The bits of a BitSet are indexed by nonnegative integers. Individual indexed bits can be examined, set, or cleared. One BitSet may be used to modify the contents of another BitSet through logical AND, logical inclusive OR, and logical exclusive OR operations.

By default, all bits in the set initially have the value false.

Every bit set has a current size, which is the number of bits of space currently in use by the bit set. Note that the size is related to the implementation of a bit set, so it may change with implementation. The length of a bit set relates to logical length of a bit set and is defined independently of implementation.

Unless otherwise noted, passing a null parameter to any of the methods in a BitSet will result in a NullPointerException.

A BitSet is not safe for multithreaded use without...

This description has been shortened as it was too long.

obtuse gale Oct 7, 2021, 3:57 AM

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I believe it's a long/an array of longs?

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Not sure

forest pecan Oct 7, 2021, 3:57 AM

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Seems to be a vector of booleans

obtuse gale Oct 7, 2021, 3:58 AM

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Yeah I mean that's the technical terms anyway

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It would be fucking stupid if it actually used a boolean for each bit

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 9:57 AM

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obtuse gale I believe it's a long/an array of longs?

yea long[]

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https://developer.classpath.org/doc/java/util/BitSet-source.html

boreal sphinx Oct 7, 2021, 10:03 AM

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Anyone know how to make enderpearls and splash potions not being cleared during clearlag? I know how to bypass it when it's thrown to the ground, but I mean when it's thrown

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 10:26 AM

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Yes, remove clear lag, that should fix the problem

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there’s plenty of info out there on why clearlag ultimately isn’t beneficial to server performance, but the basic gist is that pretty much everything clearlag does which is meant to improve performance, the server already does by default, just may need some fine tuning

boreal sphinx Oct 7, 2021, 10:28 AM

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Yeah I understand what you are saying. I was just asking how you do it, not why not to use it

dense dew Oct 7, 2021, 10:30 AM

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clearlag'nt

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just dont

boreal sphinx Oct 7, 2021, 10:32 AM

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It's just every minute there will be at least 10k entities per minute dropped on ground which is why I use clearlag otherwise it would be insane with amount of entities dropped on ground

dense dew Oct 7, 2021, 10:33 AM

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just lower despawn rate
imo its better to have dynamic despawning than despawning all stuff at the same time

boreal sphinx Oct 7, 2021, 10:37 AM

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Alright, I'll try it out. Thanks @dense dew

dense dew Oct 7, 2021, 10:38 AM

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boreal sphinx Alright, I'll try it out. Thanks <@!738503023713714186>

item-despawn-rate in spigot.yml
alt-item-despawn-rate in paper.yml to set different despawn rate to specific items (good for cobblestone/netherrack etc)

boreal sphinx Oct 7, 2021, 10:39 AM

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Alright, will test this out. Could be a better option than clearlag honestly

dense dew Oct 7, 2021, 10:39 AM

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ember river Oct 7, 2021, 11:22 AM

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Is anyone here experienced with back-end stuff for Minecraft servers?

distant sun Oct 7, 2021, 11:23 AM

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back-end as in?

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 3:33 PM

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man. life really likes punching you in the nuts, giving you some time to heal, enough to think everything will be alright then just punching you again.

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 3:37 PM

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Yup

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 3:38 PM

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someone please help. where would I look to see if my laptop can have an ssd and what type of ssd it can take?

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like is there a way to see the type of connector or whatever and then find ssds that work for that connector (this is just random. got no experience with this stuff)

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same for RAM. I am looking to get a 16 gb stick since I Know my laptop only has 1 slot but idk where to even start looking

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been googling for a bit but all I can find is "what you should know before moving to ssd from hdd" and they talk about prices, performance and stuff like that. that I do not need

sly sonnet Oct 7, 2021, 3:45 PM

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you check what size your (now) drive is

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also it's connector

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the size usually is 2.5"

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connector will most likely be sata

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if your laptop is ancient, you will probably have an ide connector

sly sonnet Oct 7, 2021, 3:47 PM

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sly sonnet if your laptop is ancient, you will probably have an ide connector

if this is the case, you can buy an adapter (i did that on may old potato-pc)

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 3:47 PM

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Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 08)

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wait

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wrong thing

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SATA controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series SATA Controller 1 [AHCI mode] (rev 04) (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0])

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this

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so I have to check inside to see the size? I know its one of those larger ones.

sly sonnet Oct 7, 2021, 3:49 PM

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i mean the physical size

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 3:49 PM

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yeah 2.5 inches sounds about right

sly sonnet Oct 7, 2021, 3:50 PM

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just shut down your machine, pop the drive out and check it out. If it has like 2 "connectors" (one bigger one and one smaller), then it's sata

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if there are a lot of small pins than its probably ide

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 3:50 PM

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well according to that it is sata. I will check it out tho. will take some photos just in case.

sly sonnet Oct 7, 2021, 3:51 PM

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better check, cuz my old drive is also 2.5, but not sata

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 3:51 PM

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sly sonnet if there are a lot of small pins than its probably ide

if it is ide can I still use an ssd?

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 3:51 PM

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You can check your laptop manual

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 3:51 PM

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dawn hinge You can check your laptop manual

yeah idk if that's a thing tbh xD

sly sonnet Oct 7, 2021, 3:51 PM

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uhh

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 3:51 PM

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bought this laptop like 5 years ago

sly sonnet Oct 7, 2021, 3:52 PM

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i didn't have enough space so i just bought an msata -> ide connector and a msata ssd

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 3:52 PM

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man everything is so messed up rn. I have to deal with this, uni and someone hitting my car and not even leaving a number.

sly sonnet Oct 7, 2021, 3:52 PM

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just take a photo of ur drive xd

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 3:52 PM

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sly sonnet i didn't have enough space so i just bought an msata -> ide connector and a msat...

well I'll look. will look at the ram as well and will try and continue from there

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yup will do

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 3:53 PM

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static zealot wrong thing

I've taken it out before so iirc it is a 2.5 inch one but will look. also that is from the lspci -v command on pop (-v is for verbose)

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brb then

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 3:59 PM

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static zealot yeah idk if that's a thing tbh xD

Mine is 5 years old too and i guess it might depend on the company but it did specify in the manual that the laptop was SSD upgradable & that the size was 2.5 inch

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It was a HP laptop if it helps

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 4:27 PM

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dawn hinge Mine is 5 years old too and i guess it might depend on the company but it did sp...

oh no. you misunderstood me. I was referring to the chances of me still having a laptop manual. and did check and I don't seem to still have it

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mine's a lenovo ideapad I believe.

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anyways.

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@sly sonnet the whole dirve is around 6 cm and the pins are 4 as you can see in the photos. if you can.

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 4:29 PM

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static zealot

and its double

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 4:30 PM

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sly sonnet just shut down your machine, pop the drive out and check it out. If it has like ...

so from what you said here it is SATA.

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but now how do I find the best SSD to fit there?

sly sonnet Oct 7, 2021, 4:31 PM

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yeah, sata

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 4:31 PM

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so do I just look for SATA SSD?

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btw. just wanted to thank you for taking your time and helping me with this stuff. I really am clueless.

sly sonnet Oct 7, 2021, 4:46 PM

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no probs, i like to help people if i can

sly sonnet Oct 7, 2021, 4:46 PM

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static zealot so do I just look for SATA SSD?

yeah

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 4:46 PM

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if I find a few can I send links and get your opinions?

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oh btw. @sly sonnet just to confirm. NVME and M.2 are like different type of connectors right? like they're not something that also go with SATA

sly sonnet Oct 7, 2021, 5:02 PM

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wait ill answer after csgo game

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:02 PM

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👍 ty

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oh yeah. another question for then. I see a lot of SATA 3, SATA 3 M.2. what's all that

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lmao

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:22 PM

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@static zealot sata and nvme r like storage interfaces or something, ones fast, ones lightning fast. sata is superman, nvme is the flash.

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m.2 is a type of connector I think

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but there's two main m.2 connectors

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so you have to make sure you get the right m.2 for your system, not any m.2 will work

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:23 PM

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quiet depot <@!444552204158763016> sata and nvme r like storage interfaces or something, one...

not sure which one is faster (superman or flash?)

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:23 PM

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flash is faster

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much faster

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:23 PM

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oh alr. good to know

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:24 PM

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but basically u can get m.2 drives that either go over sata or nvme

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nvme is usually the one you want

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:25 PM

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but my conector is sata

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I can't get nvme can I?

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:26 PM

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can you show me

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:26 PM

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static zealot

the photos are here

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I can run lspci again to see what it says there as well

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:26 PM

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ah ye that's a sata connector

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:27 PM

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yeah. and I can't get nvme for it can I?

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I have to go with sata

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:27 PM

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idk

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take a pic of your whole mobo

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:27 PM

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mobo?

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:27 PM

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motherboard

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if there's any plastic flaps lift them up

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:27 PM

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nope. ain't got space for another drive

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:27 PM

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or just tell me the laptop model

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:27 PM

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oh 1 sec. can do.

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hmm

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need to find the model. I forgot it

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Lenovo ideapad 100-15IBD

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model name 80QQ

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got a notebook ip as well. and a serial number. can give you those as well if required

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:30 PM

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ye no m.2 slots on there

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:31 PM

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where do you check that btw?

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:31 PM

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i googled it

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:31 PM

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oh

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:31 PM

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https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-IdeaPad-1xx-3xx-5xx-7xx/What-kind-of-SSD-fits-in-my-Ideapad-100-15IBD-80QQ/td-p/4300549

What kind of SSD fits in my Ideapad 100-15IBD-80QQ?-English Community

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:32 PM

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Some: SSD / SATA 6.0Gb/s, 2.5" wide, 7mm high welp will look for this

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 5:33 PM

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sata ssd isn't bad

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:33 PM

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just to make sure. a sata ssd would still be better than hdd?

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 5:33 PM

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yes

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:33 PM

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like at least a considerable improvement

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 5:33 PM

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Infinity better

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Yes

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Significantly better

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Definitely noticeable

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It's like 60Hz -> 144Hz

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And then nvme is like 240Hz

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 5:33 PM

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Yes 100%

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I switched and I'm never going back lol

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:34 PM

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prisma wave It's like 60Hz -> 144Hz

yeah. never experienced more than 60Hz lol

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 5:34 PM

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I hadn't either until a couple of years ago

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You can't go back

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:34 PM

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I'm also looking to upgrade my ram to 16 gb but will ask those questions after I find a ssd.

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 5:34 PM

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it's crazy

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SSD is definitely more important

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:34 PM

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well I've got the budget for both

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so its fine

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 5:34 PM

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ok, but prioritise ssd

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:34 PM

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yeah will do

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100%

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that was the plan

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 5:35 PM

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Probably the best non-breaking upgrade you can get for any pc

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:35 PM

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well. it will make me reinstall everything

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:35 PM

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prisma wave Probably the best non-breaking upgrade you can get for any pc

idk rgb is a close contender

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:35 PM

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quiet depot idk rgb is a close contender

oh close? I thought rgb is the best

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 5:36 PM

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oh yeah rgb is objectively the best

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:36 PM

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like you become a god with enough rgb

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so

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SSD SATA 3 would work?

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 5:36 PM

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quiet depot idk rgb is a close contender

🥲

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:36 PM

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bcz I can only see SATA3

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 5:36 PM

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I mean tbh, keyboard without rgb is kindof frustrating sometimes

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Eyestrain when you miss a key

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oof

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:37 PM

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old wyvern Eyestrain when you miss a key

I can confirm. got like a very cheap rgb keyboard and can't get the light to work on linux bcz of the drivers. it sucks. like in my room is mostly dark when I work and I miss the keys from time to time (when I open my laptop and I need to put in my password mostly)

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:38 PM

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make ur own drivers

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:38 PM

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OH GOD. ssd sata 3 1TB 450 USD

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what is a "good" ssd company? and what companies should I run away from?

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 5:39 PM

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samsung

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:39 PM

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samsung is good

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 5:39 PM

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static zealot OH GOD. ssd sata 3 1TB 450 USD

wait what

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static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:39 PM

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old wyvern wait what

its an 850 evo. idk why

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but its the pricve

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in the middle of 100-150 drives

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xD

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 5:39 PM

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7-something was supposed to be better than 860 I think

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:39 PM

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maybe it's a really good 850

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 5:40 PM

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I forgot the exact reason, someone mentioned it here earlier

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:40 PM

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quiet depot samsung is good

oh. I was looking at this

Solid State Drive (SSD) Samsung 870 EVO, 1TB, 2.5", SATA III
150 USD

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:40 PM

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old wyvern I forgot the exact reason, someone mentioned it here earlier

probably nand type

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:40 PM

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I;ve also heard of kingston before. I think those are also good?

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:40 PM

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kingston good

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 5:40 PM

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ig, I have barely any idea in this dept

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:41 PM

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i have a kingston & samsung ssd

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both good

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:41 PM

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Solid State Drive (SSD) Kingston A400, 960GB, 2.5", SATA III
105 usd

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 5:41 PM

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Crucial is good too

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:41 PM

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so. should I chose the 960 gb one?

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for 105

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or the 1tb one for 150 usd

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:41 PM

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google it

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:41 PM

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wait. actually its 115

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not 105

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:41 PM

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google "a400 vs not a400"

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:41 PM

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oh

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yeah lmao

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I was wondering

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are there benchmarks

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same like for cpus

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:41 PM

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yes

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:42 PM

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oh there is. on user benchmark. cool

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:42 PM

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are there rgb benchmarks?

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that could be useful

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:42 PM

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but there is no 1tb ones

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at least for the kingston one

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:43 PM

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960gb is basically 1tb

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:43 PM

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is it alr if I Compare the 250gb ones? like does the benchmark persist?

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:43 PM

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probably

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:43 PM

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apparently samsung one is 50% faster

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 5:44 PM

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I'd assume so

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:44 PM

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well it is like 30% more expensive lol

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:44 PM

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then do the mafs

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which is better value

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:44 PM

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well.

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samsung

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:44 PM

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then buy samsung

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:44 PM

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bcz it 50% more faster but only 30% more expensive

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monke go buy samsung now

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ty

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 5:45 PM

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dawn hinge Crucial is good too

Try this, my model was actually faster than Samsung & Kingston

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:46 PM

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oh

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found one on the crucial website

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Crucial MX500 1TB 3D NAND SATA 2.5 inch 7mm (with 9.5mm adapter) Internal SSD
100 usd.

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need to see the benchmarks

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:46 PM

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3d nand

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honestly I'd be more excited if it was 2d

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or 4d

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or anything but 3d

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:47 PM

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lmao

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2% faster

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crucial

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but cheaper

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oh damn

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:47 PM

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speed isn't the only factor

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:47 PM

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actually

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nvm. samsung is 8% faster

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well. samsung one is newer

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:48 PM

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different types of nand can withstand different amounts of read/write cycles or whatever

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so that's very important too

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 5:48 PM

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Oo

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:49 PM

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dq read: 389 vs 388 (samsung left, crucial right)
dq write: 363 vs 368
dq mixed: 373 vs 307
adq read: 344 vs 341
adq write: 303 vs 303
adq mixed: 310 vs 254

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so samsung is a bit faster. mostly

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 5:51 PM

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Yep

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:51 PM

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and the diference is 150 usd - 100 usd

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so I need to decide if 50 usd is worth

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the speed

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which idk if it is

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 5:52 PM

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If you got the budget, I'd just go with samsung tbh

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:52 PM

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hmm

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now to my ram then

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I have 1 slot in my laptop. I've got an 8 gb stick rn in

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these are photos from inside.

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will be googling to see if I can find similar posts to what piggy found for the ssd

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 5:57 PM

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16GB DDR3L/1600 SO-DIMM

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u need that

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have fun

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 5:57 PM

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lmao. ty

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found an amazon link for literally this https://www.amazon.co.uk/memory-Lenovo-IdeaPad-100-15IBD-1600MHz/dp/B018ERSF3E

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oh god. 170 usd

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335 USD for the ram and ssd together.

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 6:05 PM

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quiet depot 16GB DDR3L/1600 SO-DIMM

If it’s so dim, can’t you make it brighter? kappapuff

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 6:05 PM

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think I might go with the crucial ssd bcz I can only find the ram at 170+ and that is in the 2 places I could find it

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 6:07 PM

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wintry plinth If it’s so dim, can’t you make it brighter? <:kappapuff:349780925225369611>

lame joke

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don't ever speak to me again

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 6:07 PM

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Hahah

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 6:07 PM

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ok actually i should give some credit it wasn't that bad

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 6:08 PM

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Thank you 😇

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You loved it really

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 6:08 PM

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static zealot think I might go with the crucial ssd bcz I can only find the ram at 170+ and th...

Maybe try to find a samsung model that is similar to the crucial price range and compare that?

quiet depot Oct 7, 2021, 6:08 PM

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yeah...

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.-.

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 6:08 PM

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Yeah it was great chazza

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 6:11 PM

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dawn hinge Maybe try to find a samsung model that is similar to the crucial price range and...

what really hurts me is that RAM price. didn't expect it to be over 100 usd

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but I was so wrong I guess. its weird that I can only find 1 seller on amazon and that's all

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 6:13 PM

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Try looking for site alternatives maybe? 🤷‍♂️

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 6:17 PM

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Can’t you use PC part picker for that?

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To give you best price

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 6:19 PM

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dawn hinge Try looking for site alternatives maybe? 🤷‍♂️

that's the thing. can't find one.

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 6:19 PM

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wintry plinth Can’t you use PC part picker for that?

idk if that works. it is for an upgrade in my laptop

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apparently there's special memory I need

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 6:21 PM

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static zealot apparently there's special memory I need

How so?

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 6:21 PM

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well the one I found is "approved" by lenovo.

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 6:32 PM

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I mean does it matter? I would guess so long the motherboard supports the ram, its good to go

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 6:32 PM

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yeah. but can't find like any alternatives

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that's the problem

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 6:35 PM

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You're talking about the site alternatives? If so, well... time to start comparing SSDs again lol

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 6:36 PM

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Huh?

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No. for the RAM. I can't find any other alternative that works for my motherboard

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only the one that's like 170 usd

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I've got like 220 usd maybe 230

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but the final price is like 270 (with the crucial ssd)

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 6:37 PM

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Ohh

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 6:37 PM

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jeez

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how much ram?

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 6:38 PM

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16 gb.

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 6:38 PM

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That's tough... hm

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 6:38 PM

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yikes

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 6:38 PM

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16GB DDR3L/1600 SO-DIMM

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this is the only one I found

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like this is what my system can take

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 6:38 PM

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F

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you can get 16GB of ddr4 for like £70 here

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which is about $100

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 6:38 PM

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but its in 2 sticks

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is it not? also you have a lot of alternatives

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this one is the only one on the market

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 6:39 PM

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🥶

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my condolences

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 6:39 PM

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like I've searched on every website. international or romanian

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every website I could think of. also just google alone

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 6:39 PM

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How much ram do you have right now?

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 6:39 PM

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8

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it does tend to use it all and ask for more when I run IJ browser discord and sometimes minecraft

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 6:40 PM

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yeah having 16 is a good idea

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 6:40 PM

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Hmm

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 6:40 PM

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are you buying 16 or 8?

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you could get 8 for pretty cheap

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 6:41 PM

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well.

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can't

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only got 1 slot in the laptop

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so I either get 16 or nothing

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 6:42 PM

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oh

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yikes

onyx loom Oct 7, 2021, 6:42 PM

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1 slot 🥶

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 6:43 PM

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its a fucking laptop that I paid 400 usd for 5 years ago. what do you expect? it has a gpu at least. lmao

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I can't even tell if it supports 8 or 16 max.

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that's what hurts me more rn

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oh boy. I really need to get some sleep. got to go to the police in the morning. completely forgot about that. fuck

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 6:53 PM

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does ddr3 even support 16gb on a single stick?

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oh i guess it does

obtuse gale Oct 7, 2021, 6:54 PM

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https://wiki.bristermitten.me/does ddr3 even support 16gb on a single stick?

Does

This guide talks about Does

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 6:54 PM

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or not?

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wow good one

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This guide talks about Does

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 6:54 PM

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obtuse gale https://wiki.bristermitten.me/does ddr3 even support 16gb on a single stick?

good one

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 6:54 PM

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prisma wave does ddr3 even support 16gb on a single stick?

yeah it does

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 6:56 PM

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I think its best choice to go with the Ram then the SDD tbh

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 6:56 PM

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I think I'll just get the ssd for now and will think about the ram later

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 6:56 PM

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dawn hinge I think its best choice to go with the Ram then the SDD tbh

is it?

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bcz I could really use an ssd

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 6:56 PM

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How much ram do you have atm?

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 6:56 PM

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8 gb

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 6:56 PM

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Yes, you said you keep reaching the ram limit

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 6:56 PM

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go SSD

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 6:56 PM

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the thing is I can't even tell if it supports 16. bcz the infomration is very conflicted.

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 6:57 PM

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dawn hinge Yes, you said you keep reaching the ram limit

well its even worse for write and read speeds on disk. I can sit minutes before apps open and stuff.

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and its better on linux but its very bad on windows

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like even going thru folders

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 6:57 PM

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I switched my old laptop to SSD a month ago, 4GB ram only. But it performs much much better now

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 6:58 PM

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I'll go for an ssd bcz that one I know I can use anyways.

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 6:58 PM

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Yeah that's the right choice then, imagine getting the ram then it ends up not working lol

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I'd hate my life

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 6:59 PM

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static zealot the thing is I can't even tell if it supports 16. bcz the infomration is very co...

daring light Oct 7, 2021, 6:59 PM

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when i use /dm open rules say rules is not a valid menu but in /dm list appears rules

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nose hablar ingles asi que la redacción no esta muy bien

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:00 PM

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daring light when i use /dm open rules say rules is not a valid menu but in /dm list appears ...

Do you think this is on-topic for a channel named #dev-general ?

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:00 PM

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daring light nose hablar ingles asi que la redacción no esta muy bien

fweh wei irelo jewfwefi indeed

daring light Oct 7, 2021, 7:00 PM

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old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:00 PM

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daring light Oct 7, 2021, 7:00 PM

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ñ man

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 7:01 PM

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#general-plugins @daring light

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:01 PM

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daring light ñ man

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daring light Oct 7, 2021, 7:01 PM

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old wyvern include<conio.h>

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old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:01 PM

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daring light ?

Syphyllis eroer wrgwufef frferf!

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 7:01 PM

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Fer·nan·do Pó·ov

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:01 PM

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Fer·nan·do Pó·ov

daring light Oct 7, 2021, 7:01 PM

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old wyvern Syphyllis eroer wrgwufef frferf!

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old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:02 PM

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prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 7:02 PM

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all my homies use do notation

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:02 PM

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i say w

daring light Oct 7, 2021, 7:02 PM

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w?

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:02 PM

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yes w

daring light Oct 7, 2021, 7:02 PM

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or ñ?

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:02 PM

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norn

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 7:02 PM

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K I'm sorry I had to send this to you but now that you have opened it you can't stopped reading this. Hi my name is Teresa Fidlago I died 27 years. If you don't send this to 20 people I will sleep by your side forever. If you don't believe me search me up. Teresa Fidlago. So send this to 20 people. A girl ignored this and her mom died 20 days later. NO SEND BACKS!!!! #copied. Sorry I had to send this. Btw this is not fake search her up on google. Someone send me this and i had to do the same, i’m taking no risk of ignoring this message tell me why this keeps happening. another grandma read this and sent it to 20 people but the internet went of on 19. She was found cut into 5 pieces after 1 day. Make sure you send all 20

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daring light Oct 7, 2021, 7:02 PM

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u horn?

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:03 PM

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daring light i horn?

K I'm sorry I had to send this to you but now that you have opened it you can't stopped reading this. Hi my name is Teresa Fidlago I died 27 years. If you don't send this to 20 people I will sleep by your side forever. If you don't believe me search me up. Teresa Fidlago. So send this to 20 people. A girl ignored this and her mom died 20 days later. NO SEND BACKS!!!! #copied. Sorry I had to send this. Btw this is not fake search her up on google. Someone send me this and i had to do the same, i’m taking no risk of ignoring this message tell me why this keeps happening. another grandma read this and sent it to 20 people but the internet went of on 19. She was found cut into 5 pieces after 1 day. Make sure you send all 20

Help!!!!!! PLZ what is this plz im sorry if this is bad 😦

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 7:03 PM

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K I'm sorry I had to send this to you but now that you have opened it you can't stopped reading this. Hi my name is Teresa Fidlago I died 27 years. If you don't send this to 20 people I will sleep by your side forever. If you don't believe me search me up. Teresa Fidlago. So send this to 20 people. A girl ignored this and her mom died 20 days later. NO SEND BACKS!!!! #copied. Sorry I had to send this. Btw this is not fake search her up on google. Someone send me this and i had to do the same, i’m taking no risk of ignoring this message tell me why this keeps happening. another grandma read this and sent it to 20 people but the internet went of on 19. She was found cut into 5 pieces after 1 day. Make sure you send all 20

Help!!!!!! PLZ what is this plz im sorry if this is bad frowning

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 7:03 PM

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frowning

daring light Oct 7, 2021, 7:03 PM

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2015 moment

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:03 PM

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daring light i horn?

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daring light Oct 7, 2021, 7:03 PM

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old wyvern K I'm sorry I had to send this to you but now that you have opened it you can't ...

K I'm sorry I had to send this to you but now that you have opened it you can't stopped reading this. Hi my name is Teresa Fidlago I died 27 years. If you don't send this to 20 people I will sleep by your side forever. If you don't believe me search me up. Teresa Fidlago. So send this to 20 people. A girl ignored this and her mom died 20 days later. NO SEND BACKS!!!! #copied. Sorry I had to send this. Btw this is not fake search her up on google. Someone send me this and i had to do the same, i’m taking no risk of ignoring this message tell me why this keeps happening. another grandma read this and sent it to 20 people but the internet went of on 19. She was found cut into 5 pieces after 1 day. Make sure you send all 20

Help!!!!!! PLZ what is this plz im sorry if this is bad 😦

restive ravine Oct 7, 2021, 7:03 PM

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Didn't think I was on Facebook

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:03 PM

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daring light K I'm sorry I had to send this to you but now that you have opened it you can't ...

K I'm sorry I had to send this to you but now that you have opened it you can't stopped reading this. Hi my name is Teresa Fidlago I died 27 years. If you don't send this to 20 people I will sleep by your side forever. If you don't believe me search me up. Teresa Fidlago. So send this to 20 people. A girl ignored this and her mom died 20 days later. NO SEND BACKS!!!! #copied. Sorry I had to send this. Btw this is not fake search her up on google. Someone send me this and i had to do the same, i’m taking no risk of ignoring this message tell me why this keeps happening. another grandma read this and sent it to 20 people but the internet went of on 19. She was found cut into 5 pieces after 1 day. Make sure you send all 20

Help!!!!!! PLZ what is this plz im sorry if this is bad 😦

daring light Oct 7, 2021, 7:03 PM

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old wyvern K I'm sorry I had to send this to you but now that you have opened it you can't ...

K I'm sorry I had to send this to you but now that you have opened it you can't stopped reading this. Hi my name is Teresa Fidlago I died 27 years. If you don't send this to 20 people I will sleep by your side forever. If you don't believe me search me up. Teresa Fidlago. So send this to 20 people. A girl ignored this and her mom died 20 days later. NO SEND BACKS!!!! #copied. Sorry I had to send this. Btw this is not fake search her up on google. Someone send me this and i had to do the same, i’m taking no risk of ignoring this message tell me why this keeps happening. another grandma read this and sent it to 20 people but the internet went of on 19. She was found cut into 5 pieces after 1 day. Make sure you send all 20

Help!!!!!! PLZ what is this plz im sorry if this is bad 😦

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prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 7:03 PM

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daring light Oct 7, 2021, 7:03 PM

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dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 7:03 PM

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Jesus

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 7:03 PM

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daring light Oct 7, 2021, 7:04 PM

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hi ñ

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 7:04 PM

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guess who has mute permissions?

daring light Oct 7, 2021, 7:04 PM

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😦

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 7:04 PM

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mute me pls

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i do not want to be part of this world anymore

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:04 PM

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daring light hi ñ

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prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 7:04 PM

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The content on the paper looks accurate when it comes to "characteristics", and the edits on the wording make it sound nicer.
I can not think of something I would like to edit, especially because the wording is something I struggle myself. I think the paper looks really good.
Good job, and thank you.

daring light Oct 7, 2021, 7:04 PM

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old wyvern TG9yZW0ga XBzdW0gZG9sb3Igc2l 0IGFtZXQsIGNvbnNlY3RldHVyIGFkaX Bpc2NpbmcgZWxpdCwgc...

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old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:04 PM

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daring light que? ñ

sei? w

daring light Oct 7, 2021, 7:05 PM

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w?

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:05 PM

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w

daring light Oct 7, 2021, 7:05 PM

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or ñ?

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 7:05 PM

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please stop 😦

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 7:05 PM

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ok

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yes

daring light Oct 7, 2021, 7:05 PM

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ok

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 7:05 PM

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blitz is right

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responsible staff member

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SHUT IT

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:05 PM

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blitz is left

obtuse gale Oct 7, 2021, 7:05 PM

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Who is blitz?

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:05 PM

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left

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 7:05 PM

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obtuse gale Who is blitz?

you

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 7:05 PM

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Hes right, not left

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 7:05 PM

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Why is blitz?

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:05 PM

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Hes up not down

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 7:05 PM

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the questions life will never answer

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 7:05 PM

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Nooo, its left and down

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:05 PM

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static zealot Why is blitz?

Good question. He shouldnt exist

static zealot Oct 7, 2021, 7:06 PM

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ok. bye now. behave please. ty

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:06 PM

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dawn hinge Nooo, its left and down

Up Down Left Right Triangle Triangle Square Down Down Circle

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 7:06 PM

#

The content on the paper looks accurate when it comes to "characteristics", and the edits on the wording make it sound nicer.

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I can not think of something I would like to edit, especially because the wording is something I struggle myself.

dawn hinge Oct 7, 2021, 7:06 PM

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old wyvern Up Down Left Right Triangle Triangle Square Down Down Circle

Does that cheat code give free money? Clutz needs it

ocean quartz Oct 7, 2021, 7:07 PM

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old wyvern Up Down Left Right Triangle Triangle Square Down Down Circle

Left right L1 L2 R1 R2 up down left right

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:07 PM

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prisma wave I can not think of something I would like to edit, especially because the wordin...

I'd just like to interject for a moment.

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 7:07 PM

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NO

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STOP

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:07 PM

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ocean quartz Left right L1 L2 R1 R2 up down left right

Down Down L2 L2 R1 Analog right Analog right Start Start L2 L2

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 7:07 PM

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I think the paper looks really good. Good job, and thank you.

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:08 PM

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Cheatcodes be like hand signs

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https://tenor.com/view/kakashi-style-jutsu-ninja-gif-13772731

Tenor

ocean quartz Oct 7, 2021, 7:08 PM

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Analog? I don't remember any that used it ;o

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:08 PM

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ocean quartz Analog? I don't remember any that used it ;o

I have absolutely no idea xD

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:08 PM

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prisma wave STOP

What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 7:08 PM

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ENOUGH

ocean quartz Oct 7, 2021, 7:08 PM

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I still remember the jetpack and spawn jet cheat codes for sanandreas, good days

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:08 PM

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ocean quartz I still remember the jetpack and spawn jet cheat codes for sanandreas, good days

xD

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there was a hydra one

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and ofc

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bangbangbang

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and for gta3

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chittychittybangbang

ocean quartz Oct 7, 2021, 7:10 PM

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Didn't play gta3 enough 😩

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:11 PM

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🥲

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I think I played gta3 more than sa

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With the realgta mod

empty flint Oct 7, 2021, 7:18 PM

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What does it take to update a gradle plugin version?

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I updated from 7.0.0 to 7.1.0 but when I run the task, it still runs with 7.0.0

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idk what else to do. I invalidated the cache, I restarted IntelliJ...

ocean quartz Oct 7, 2021, 7:20 PM

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Did you refresh gradle?
Show your full build.gradle

empty flint Oct 7, 2021, 7:22 PM

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ocean quartz Did you refresh gradle? Show your full build.gradle

https://hastebin.com/iluloqujih.kotlin -> rootproject build.gradle
https://hastebin.com/ujopuvisay.php -> rootproject settings.gradle (where the plugin version is declared in pluginManagement)

https://hastebin.com/caqiyamoja.kotlin -> submodule build.gradle

https://scans.gradle.com/s/ddzl6pdxptunk/plugins?toggled=WyJjb20uZ2l0aHViLmpvaG5yZW5nZWxtYW4uc2hhZG93LTE5Il0 gradle scan

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I ran the submodule shadowJar task here

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scan shows shadowJar 7.0.0 is used

ocean quartz Oct 7, 2021, 7:25 PM

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You do it in a weird way, declaring it on settings instead lol
Never done it that way so idk

empty flint Oct 7, 2021, 7:25 PM

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I did it this way because I can get away with declaring the version only once per project

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no need to declare the version of the plugin in every submodule

obtuse gale Oct 7, 2021, 7:28 PM

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Yeah you can also do that in the root build.gradle

empty flint Oct 7, 2021, 7:29 PM

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I tried, it didn't work

obtuse gale Oct 7, 2021, 7:29 PM

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done properly it works perfectly fine

empty flint Oct 7, 2021, 7:29 PM

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can you show me?

obtuse gale Oct 7, 2021, 7:29 PM

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No

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I'm on the phone

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Not home

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 7:33 PM

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FUCKKK

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I lost the source!!!

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🥲

empty flint Oct 7, 2021, 7:33 PM

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I think I found the mistake

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ayyy and 7.1.0 solved the api dependency issue I was having

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fantastic!

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 7:53 PM

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Honest question, what are the nice command frameworks out there? Light, not bloated, optimised for large servers? I need to make a plugin for my analytics platform

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Its been years since I last properly dived into this

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 7:53 PM

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ACF is quite nice imo

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or there's the Matt monopoly

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or Cloud

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 7:54 PM

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Last I used, wasnt ACF super hard to customise? Unless shit changed, and was massive file size

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 7:54 PM

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what sort of customisation?

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 7:54 PM

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everything, error messages, etc

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 7:55 PM

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it's not too difficult i dont think

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a bit of a pain though yeah

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 7:55 PM

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Literally been years since I last properly did mc plugins, so wasn't sure if a lot changed since 😂

obtuse gale Oct 7, 2021, 7:57 PM

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what should i use for multi module project out of Maven and Gradle

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 7:57 PM

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gradle

obtuse gale Oct 7, 2021, 7:57 PM

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ok

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Thanks simon

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 7:57 PM

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no problem

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simon_happy

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maven 😐

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 7:59 PM

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Works fine, does the job, same as normal java

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Not gonna switch because others are going yeah its amazing!!

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 7:59 PM

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your loss i guess

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 7:59 PM

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Not really?

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Its a choice

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:00 PM

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but maybe people are saying it's better because it is better

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:00 PM

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Compiles the same

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same as the normal java vs kotlin crap

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:00 PM

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not really

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:00 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/are-you-a-comedian-funny-man-comedian-humorist-stand-up-gif-15590532

Tenor

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xd

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:00 PM

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wintry plinth Not really?

it's a loss when you're intentionally using the option that's significantly slower in both compilation speeds and productivity

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gradle can be like, 100x faster

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which is clearly a massive gain in productivity

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if you arent waiting 3 minutes for your project to compile

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:01 PM

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Ig if someone built me a ready to go base, sure, gradle that is, defo not going to kotlin tho

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I see no point, it compiles down the same

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:02 PM

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yeah, just use assembly then

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it compiles to the same thing in the end ¯_(ツ)_/¯

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:02 PM

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Nah I know normal java, may as well use what I know

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Thanks for the offer tho

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:03 PM

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im not offering anything

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just saying

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the "this works so i'm not changing it" mentality is very redundant

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that's how you rack up years of technical debt

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:03 PM

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For me its more I want to get stuff out fast

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:04 PM

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or in this case, hours of time lost waiting for maven to compile

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:04 PM

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wintry plinth For me its more I want to get stuff out fast

sure, but that'll absolutely have consequences in the longer term

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also, if you want fast, gradle is literally 50-100x faster lmao

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:04 PM

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If you can build me a good base :P

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:04 PM

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takes a couple of seconds to compile usually

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a base of what?

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:04 PM

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wintry plinth If you can build me a good base :P

good base?

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:04 PM

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Plugin base

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:04 PM

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just new project -> add dependencies -> do it

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it's the same process as maven lol

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just better

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:05 PM

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Theres a gradle version of the plugin dev plugin if you want that

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:05 PM

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o

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:05 PM

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I think its on nial's github, not sure tho

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:05 PM

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wasnt it aj

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that made it

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:05 PM

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Its been years since I dived to this lmao, like 7y of java experience, now im mind blank after doing web dev for last while

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😂

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:06 PM

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ye aprobably

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:06 PM

#

plugins {
    java
}

group = "me.bristermitten"
version = "1.0"

java {
    sourceCompatibility = JavaVersion.VERSION_16
    targetCompatibility = sourceCompatibility
}

repositories {
    mavenCentral()
    maven("https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/repositories/snapshots/")
}

dependencies {
    compileOnly("org.spigotmc:spigot-api:1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT")
}```

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there you go

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:06 PM

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oh wait

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:06 PM

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holy shit

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what a god, ty

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:07 PM

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almost

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:07 PM

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and everything else works the same

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:07 PM

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looks like the minecraft dev plugin suppourts gradle in the main branch now

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:07 PM

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pretty much

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:07 PM

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https://github.com/minecraft-dev/MinecraftDev/blob/dev/src/main/kotlin/creator/buildsystem/gradle/GradleBuildSystem.kt

GitHub

MinecraftDev/GradleBuildSystem.kt at dev · minecraft-dev/MinecraftDev

Plugin for IntelliJ IDEA that gives special support for Minecraft modding projects. - MinecraftDev/GradleBuildSystem.kt at dev · minecraft-dev/MinecraftDev

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:07 PM

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old wyvern looks like the minecraft dev plugin suppourts gradle in the main branch now

yeah it has for a while, but it uses an old version + no kts support

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:07 PM

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ah

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:07 PM

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All I need to do with this plugin is have a config, base and sub commands, and then send requests

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literally it 😂

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:08 PM

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if you want shading use https://github.com/johnrengelman/shadow
to build use gradle build
make a new gradle project with IJ cuz there's a bit more boilerplate, but once you have a build.gradle.kts just paste that in

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changing the group and stuff obviously

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and java version if you dont want 16

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:09 PM

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oh wow, id prob need to shade cmd stuff thats it, so maven dependencies work with it too?

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:10 PM

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mhm

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just a slightly different syntax for adding them

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:10 PM

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bm

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:10 PM

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old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:10 PM

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I think I just fucked up really badly 🥶

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Remember that erlang project?

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:10 PM

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yeah...

onyx loom Oct 7, 2021, 8:11 PM

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add .kts to ur file name charlie

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:11 PM

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yeah the thing i sent was .kts

onyx loom Oct 7, 2021, 8:11 PM

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or just use the groovy version

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:11 PM

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I wrote it directly on the vps

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:11 PM

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build.gradle.kts?

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:11 PM

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yeah

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:11 PM

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Now that vps is down

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:11 PM

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whats the kts bit for

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:11 PM

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Source is gone

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all I have is the compiled output

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which ejabberd isnt accepting

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Im going to have to use Erlang again...

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🤮

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:11 PM

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wintry plinth whats the kts bit for

there are 2 types of script, groovy or kotlin. groovy is the default but it's a bit old, and has random warnings as you've seen, kotlin is newer and has better IDE support

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.kts = kotlin, .gradle = groovy

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:12 PM

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ohhh

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how do I compile

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:12 PM

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gradle build

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:12 PM

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prisma wave there are 2 types of script, groovy or kotlin. groovy is the default but it's a ...

3* you forgot elara!

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:12 PM

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old wyvern 3* you forgot elara!

nah man elara is too good for gradle. ebt is gonna change the world

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:12 PM

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😌

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:12 PM

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or there's the gradle tab on the right

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tasks > build > build

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:12 PM

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With maven when I ran install or w/e it would add to a local maven repo I hated that, does gradle not do that?

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i hated that shit

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it would like add my project to records

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so other projects could reference it

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:13 PM

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not by default, nah

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build just builds it to a jar

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:13 PM

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thank god

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charlie AnalysePlugin % gradle build
zsh: command not found: gradle
charlie AnalysePlugin %

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:13 PM

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oh well

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you need to install it lol

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:13 PM

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gradlew

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:13 PM

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or just use the bundled version in intellij

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:13 PM

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nvm

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ye

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:13 PM

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or that

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:13 PM

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./gradlew build

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:13 PM

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./gradlew build

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:13 PM

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worked

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xd

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ty

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:13 PM

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lol

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:13 PM

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wintry plinth With maven when I ran `install` or w/e it would add to a local maven repo I hate...

technically you could've used mvn package which wouldn't have done this

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:13 PM

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thats so nice, saves me installing it globally

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I like that

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:13 PM

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mhm

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:13 PM

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maven made me global install

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:14 PM

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and it keeps the version as well

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:14 PM

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BUILD SUCCESSFUL in 21s
1 actionable task: 1 executed
charlie AnalysePlugin % ./gradlew build

BUILD SUCCESSFUL in 621ms
1 actionable task: 1 up-to-date
charlie AnalysePlugin %

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aight

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:14 PM

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You dont need to install even on maven tho

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:14 PM

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so you dont need to install a really old version if a certain project is using an older version

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:14 PM

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wintry plinth BUILD SUCCESSFUL in 21s 1 actionable task: 1 executed charlie AnalysePlugin % ./...

😌

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:14 PM

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not quite ebt

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:14 PM

#

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:14 PM

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ebt executes in -20 milliseconds

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:14 PM

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am I being dumb?

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:14 PM

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Adds time

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:14 PM

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click the little elephant reload

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that should fix it

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:15 PM

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ohhh

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:15 PM

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or Ctrl Shift O i think is the shortcut

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:15 PM

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wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:15 PM

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I need to make my intellij like my phpstorm

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intellij so cluttered

onyx loom Oct 7, 2021, 8:15 PM

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u can import settings

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:15 PM

#

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this is my phpstorm

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so clean

onyx loom Oct 7, 2021, 8:15 PM

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well, should work for different jetbrains products? maybe

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:15 PM

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Isnt it better to keep the themes different?

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:15 PM

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i do wonder now if I can replicate on intellij

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:15 PM

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Each of my ides look very different

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xD

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:15 PM

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I love my keybinds too

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really 😂

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my vscode and phpstorm are identical

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:16 PM

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old wyvern Each of my ides look very different

mine all look the same

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yeah

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:16 PM

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🥲

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:16 PM

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wintry plinth

is that nord theme?

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:16 PM

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yee

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:16 PM

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Vuesion >>>>>

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:16 PM

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I have nord terminal too

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:16 PM

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nice

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i prefer atom one dark personally

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:16 PM

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prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:16 PM

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but nord is nice

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god the macos font rendering looks so nice

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:16 PM

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ye xd

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:16 PM

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so much better than windows or linux

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idk how it does it

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:17 PM

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my vscode

dense dew Oct 7, 2021, 8:17 PM

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chazza what will the plugin do 😮

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:17 PM

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prisma wave god the macos font rendering looks so nice

got a good monitor recently after being shipped, its the best XDR alternative

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server-sided part of the tracking

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:17 PM

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wintry plinth got a good monitor recently after being shipped, its the best XDR alternative

define "good"

dense dew Oct 7, 2021, 8:17 PM

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what all stuff will it collect 😳

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:17 PM

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like 4k?

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:17 PM

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5k monitor

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:17 PM

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jeez

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:17 PM

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same screen as macbook

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:18 PM

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how much was that

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:18 PM

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£1.5k...

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1/3 was from shipping costs

dense dew Oct 7, 2021, 8:18 PM

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subscribed 😎

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:18 PM

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UK stopped doing it due to EU laws

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:18 PM

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🥶

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:18 PM

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So sadly had to get from US

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omggg xdd hype

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:18 PM

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yeah that aint happening any time soon

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:19 PM

#

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Hard to show

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But it’s super crisp

dense dew Oct 7, 2021, 8:19 PM

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how much did the domain cost lol

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:19 PM

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u wanna know?

dense dew Oct 7, 2021, 8:20 PM

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very

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:20 PM

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.org = $600
.net = $3.7k

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yikes

dense dew Oct 7, 2021, 8:21 PM

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😣

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:21 PM

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Its because I see it as an investment, the .org made no sense

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its for non profits

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tbh i do wish I never got the .org and only had the .net

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@prisma wave not dived fully in yet, but i take it back, Gradle seems nice, defo dont have time to learn Kotlin

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:22 PM

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mhm

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:22 PM

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but i'll use gradle, plugin will be open sourced too

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:22 PM

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very good

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:22 PM

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so feel free to PR for hacktoberfest

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or w/e

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:23 PM

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i'm not a huge member of the kotlin circlejerk anymore, although i can say that it's pretty easy to learn and theoretically a lot more productive

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but idc enough to bug you about that

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:23 PM

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Yeah, it prob is dank

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I just wanna get this out, then maybe ill learn it idk

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:23 PM

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probably worth learning even if you dont use it very often

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it's pretty easy if you're confident with java

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but hey

wind patio Oct 7, 2021, 8:25 PM

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onyx loom Oct 7, 2021, 8:26 PM

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.gradle folder

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:26 PM

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oh

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i thought I had to include that

ocean quartz Oct 7, 2021, 8:26 PM

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wind patio

The devs thoughts when he was working on it ended up becoming an operator

onyx loom Oct 7, 2021, 8:26 PM

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nah .gradle is just like cache or smth

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:26 PM

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o shit

wind patio Oct 7, 2021, 8:26 PM

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ocean quartz The devs thoughts when he was working on it ended up becoming an operator

me when looking at other peoples codes

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??!??!

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:27 PM

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Right, now to hunt a cmd lib

onyx loom Oct 7, 2021, 8:27 PM

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👀

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do i say it

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:28 PM

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what you gonna say

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I hope not acf

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bloated as fuck

onyx loom Oct 7, 2021, 8:28 PM

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well ur in luck!

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:28 PM

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woo

ocean quartz Oct 7, 2021, 8:28 PM

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Very

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:28 PM

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uh oh

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here he is

sly sonnet Oct 7, 2021, 8:28 PM

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ocean quartz The devs thoughts when he was working on it ended up becoming an operator

errrrorOccurred ??!??! wtf error what?? xd

obtuse gale Oct 7, 2021, 8:28 PM

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"Staff"

onyx loom Oct 7, 2021, 8:28 PM

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so theres VERY COOL command framework MF-CMD

ocean quartz Oct 7, 2021, 8:28 PM

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It's not ready yet

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:28 PM

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Framework survey:

a) Is it production ready?
b) Is it bloated?
c) is it easy to use?

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If it ticks all 3

ocean quartz Oct 7, 2021, 8:29 PM

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And don't use the old version it's bad

sly sonnet Oct 7, 2021, 8:29 PM

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a) no
b) idk what that means so no
c) yes

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:29 PM

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bloated as in huge file size

jovial warren Oct 7, 2021, 8:29 PM

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been a while since I've spoke in here, hasn't it lol

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:29 PM

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Like ACF is

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:31 PM

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Discord saves the day!!

#

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#dev-general message

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😌

jovial warren Oct 7, 2021, 8:31 PM

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what are you trying to do lol

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 8:32 PM

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I lost the source to a project

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Thankfully had the actually useful part here

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:32 PM

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Waiting on my new chair, but block game dev coming back!!

ocean quartz Oct 7, 2021, 8:33 PM

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Is that an astro a50 I'm seeing?

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:33 PM

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Yusss good eyes

ocean quartz Oct 7, 2021, 8:33 PM

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Good choice

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:34 PM

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getting rid of my windows pc shortly

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my mums having it, i dont game enough anymore, and dont use it otherwise

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it'll give me more desk space, then apart from chair im completed

empty flint Oct 7, 2021, 8:42 PM

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wintry plinth Honest question, what are the nice command frameworks out there? Light, not bloa...

I'm using CommandAPI if this is still a question you need answered. With a little tweaking I got my commands down to basically oneliners using builder patterns and it works beautifully

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:43 PM

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empty flint I'm using CommandAPI if this is still a question you need answered. With a littl...

Thank you lots! Just want something light weight and production ready, will check it out

empty flint Oct 7, 2021, 8:44 PM

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It might be too much for you then, idk if I'd call it light weight or production ready, but it didn't take me long to make it so, so if you are willing to invest a little time...

jovial warren Oct 7, 2021, 8:48 PM

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if you're looking for something a bit more complicated that's supported on many platforms and can do just about anything btw, check out cloud: https://github.com/incendo/cloud

GitHub

GitHub - Incendo/cloud: Command framework & dispatcher for the JVM

Command framework & dispatcher for the JVM. Contribute to Incendo/cloud development by creating an account on GitHub.

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it's kind of modelled similarly to Brigadier

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what is that banner though lol

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:48 PM

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that is horrid

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jesus

empty flint Oct 7, 2021, 8:49 PM

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that looks awfully similar to CommandAPI lol

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looking at the syntax at least

jovial warren Oct 7, 2021, 8:49 PM

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look at the wiki

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it's pretty insane everything that it can do

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:50 PM

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I just need something that will handle fine if im expecting big servers to use it haha, but will check it out ty

jovial warren Oct 7, 2021, 8:50 PM

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cloud scales well afaik

steel heart Oct 7, 2021, 8:51 PM

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It does

jovial warren Oct 7, 2021, 8:51 PM

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if all of the parsers are written sanely lol

steel heart Oct 7, 2021, 8:51 PM

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It’s pretty much the ultimate command framework

jovial warren Oct 7, 2021, 8:51 PM

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not pretty much

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it is the ultimate command framework lol

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and guess what platform it's coming to soon

steel heart Oct 7, 2021, 8:51 PM

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🥲

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Hrypton?

jovial warren Oct 7, 2021, 8:52 PM

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Krypton

steel heart Oct 7, 2021, 8:52 PM

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reversed_fingerguns

jovial warren Oct 7, 2021, 8:52 PM

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did you actually do anything with that server software btw BM?

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nope

half harness Oct 7, 2021, 8:52 PM

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btw bardy

jovial warren Oct 7, 2021, 8:52 PM

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what

half harness Oct 7, 2021, 8:54 PM

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for some packets (ex https://wiki.vg/Protocol#Chat_Message_.28clientbound.29) is the "Chat" field just a String?

jovial warren Oct 7, 2021, 8:54 PM

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it's a chat object

half harness Oct 7, 2021, 8:54 PM

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but how can you send objects?

jovial warren Oct 7, 2021, 8:54 PM

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it gets serialized and sent as a string, but it's a JSON string

half harness Oct 7, 2021, 8:54 PM

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oh

jovial warren Oct 7, 2021, 8:54 PM

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though you could've found that out if you'd just clicked on it and read the info

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at least I swear that type links to the chat page

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or you could've looked at the data types near the top of the page

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for future reference

half harness Oct 7, 2021, 8:55 PM

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;-; i was just making sure

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but i gtg rn
cya
and ty

jovial warren Oct 7, 2021, 8:55 PM

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cya

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and yw

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 8:56 PM

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jovial warren did you actually do anything with that server software btw BM?

naturally, i got bored

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might come back to it eventually

steel heart Oct 7, 2021, 8:58 PM

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Eventually

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🥴

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 8:59 PM

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With cloud, what do I need to do to setup a base command class, then a sub-command? this is all baffling to me

jovial warren Oct 7, 2021, 9:00 PM

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https://incendo.github.io/cloud/ might help

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if you're not already looking at that

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 9:01 PM

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damn this is so complex lmao, prob super dank in turn

jovial warren Oct 7, 2021, 9:01 PM

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I think you'd probably be wanting cloud-annotations, unless you wanna use the builder API, which is the superior one

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but it isn't very friendly to separating commands I find

wintry plinth Oct 7, 2021, 9:02 PM

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I just wanna be able to easily have seperate classes, for main command + some subs

prisma wave Oct 7, 2021, 9:03 PM

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builder api is ugly as hell

ocean quartz Oct 7, 2021, 10:00 PM

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Very ugly

ocean quartz Oct 7, 2021, 10:47 PM

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Which exception god dammit 😩

obtuse gale Oct 7, 2021, 10:51 PM

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any

onyx loom Oct 7, 2021, 10:52 PM

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just catch Exception ez

old wyvern Oct 7, 2021, 11:18 PM

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ocean quartz Which exception god dammit 😩

AnException

half harness Oct 7, 2021, 11:22 PM

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welp im just using nashorn now ☹️ but at least it works

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 12:14 AM

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uhh

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 12:42 AM

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ok weird

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that works if its reloaded

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but not if loaded normally

ocean quartz Oct 8, 2021, 12:48 AM

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Awesome 😌

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 12:50 AM

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😌

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 12:51 AM

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ocean quartz Awesome 😌

next step: webhooks and live updatess!!!
\

ocean quartz Oct 8, 2021, 12:52 AM

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It should be live updates already, idk why it didn't there thonking

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 12:52 AM

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😮

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lmao

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Umm

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What

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292 follows in 14 hours?

ocean quartz Oct 8, 2021, 12:57 AM

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I guess not exactly live update, react needs it to be like on gain focus, good enough though 😩

ocean quartz Oct 8, 2021, 12:57 AM

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old wyvern lmao

shit

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 1:07 AM

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ocean quartz I guess not exactly live update, react needs it to be like on gain focus, good e...

ahh

eternal compass Oct 8, 2021, 1:37 AM

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@prisma wave I wrote smth in go

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its go 😌

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go is actually really nice though

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different though

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def not for begginners

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(You were the one that liked go iirc)

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 1:55 AM

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eternal compass def not for begginners

Why not?

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Go is quite simple compared to many other languages

eternal compass Oct 8, 2021, 1:56 AM

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args := strings.Split(m.Content[1:], " ")[1:]
it makes sense, and I wrote it myself, but its still... not intuitive I think

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 1:56 AM

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Thats just unfamiliarity with the language

eternal compass Oct 8, 2021, 1:56 AM

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ig you're right

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 1:56 AM

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Not directly to do with difficulty

eternal compass Oct 8, 2021, 1:56 AM

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true

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okay you make a good point

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 1:56 AM

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go's syntax is actually very minimal

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and the std library is quite "thin"

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 1:57 AM

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I mean I think I have a pretty good idea of what's happening there and I've never used Go in my life

eternal compass Oct 8, 2021, 1:57 AM

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also, what capitalization should I use? I see a lot of caps

eternal compass Oct 8, 2021, 1:57 AM

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cinder flare I mean I think I have a pretty good idea of what's happening there and I've neve...

explain it :p

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 1:57 AM

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I mean I don't know what m is

eternal compass Oct 8, 2021, 1:57 AM

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m is a discord message
m.Content is a string

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 1:57 AM

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Capitalization denotes whether a function is exposed or hidden

eternal compass Oct 8, 2021, 1:57 AM

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ah okay

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variables?

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 1:57 AM

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first letter being caps means its exported

eternal compass Oct 8, 2021, 1:58 AM

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okay

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then camelcase?

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 1:58 AM

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eternal compass variables?

fields, functions, types

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 1:58 AM

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eternal compass then camelcase?

hidden

eternal compass Oct 8, 2021, 1:58 AM

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okay

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 1:58 AM

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well yeah so I presume that [1:] is the same as python's or rust's slicing operator

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 1:58 AM

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mhm

eternal compass Oct 8, 2021, 1:58 AM

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oh I've never used either

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so I had no experience with that

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 1:58 AM

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and I have a good feeling I know what strings.Split does

eternal compass Oct 8, 2021, 1:58 AM

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lmao yes

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 1:58 AM

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Infact

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those are called slices in go

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They are preferred over "arrays"

eternal compass Oct 8, 2021, 1:59 AM

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yup, slices are wierd :p

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I'm learning about them

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 1:59 AM

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slices are cool af

eternal compass Oct 8, 2021, 1:59 AM

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by making a bot

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 1:59 AM

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nice!

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good luck

eternal compass Oct 8, 2021, 1:59 AM

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I need to figure out how to make a module system though

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and mongoDB communication

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 1:59 AM

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wdym module system?

eternal compass Oct 8, 2021, 1:59 AM

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as in seperating the code for a module (eg. levels) from the main bot

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:00 AM

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just define another module?

eternal compass Oct 8, 2021, 2:00 AM

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oh

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well ya see I haden't tried yet

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:01 AM

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This might be useful

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https://tour.golang.org/

eternal compass Oct 8, 2021, 2:01 AM

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oh yeah- Go has a WASM exporter

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it looks sick

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 2:02 AM

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old wyvern just define another module?

smiling_face_with_3_tears

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 2:02 AM

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eternal compass oh yeah- Go has a WASM exporter

as do so many langs these days 😌

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:02 AM

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The

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What

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 2:03 AM

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nah both of those are wrong, you need mod_msg_log

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:03 AM

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Ok im just going to go with the temporary workaround, I cant be bothered with this shit

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:03 AM

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cinder flare nah both of those are wrong, you need `mod_msg_log`

🥲

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I've been at this for like 2 hours now

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Tried changing every thing I could possibly change

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 2:03 AM

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what are ya workin on?

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:03 AM

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a module for ejabberd

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It was already working, but my employers took down the old vps without inform us so I lost the old copy

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 2:04 AM

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ooh Erlang!

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:04 AM

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Trying to get everything working again

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But

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Well yea

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Its definitely not going well

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 2:04 AM

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haha

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:04 AM

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and its 5 am

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 2:04 AM

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how much Erlang do you know?

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:04 AM

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🥲

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:04 AM

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cinder flare how much Erlang do you know?

Bare minimum

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🥲

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 2:04 AM

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ah okay, so not the best scenario lol

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:04 AM

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xD

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I mean the mod itself seems to be working perfectly

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Seems to be some issue in ejabberd

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Works when I reload the config while its running

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 2:05 AM

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uh oh

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wait, what lmao

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you have to live reload the config to get it to work?

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:05 AM

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xD

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yea for some weird reason

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 2:05 AM

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so like, the initial state is messed up or something? lol

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:06 AM

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Its seems to think the module name is invalid on bootup

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Not really sure why

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I found an issue on their repo with the exact same issue

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But the auther seems to just have dodged it

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 2:06 AM

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oof lmao

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:06 AM

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https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/3019

GitHub

Invalid value of option modules: unknown ejabberd module · Issue #...

Environment ejabberd version: 19.8.0 Erlang version: Erlang (SMP,ASYNC_THREADS,HIPE) (BEAM) emulator version 10.2.1 OS: Linux (centos 7) Installed from: docker image ejabberd/ecs:latest Errors from...

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🥲

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I mean I dont think anyone is going to mess with the server so I could just get the reload method working for now

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They wanted me to submit this last night

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already late

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 2:07 AM

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oh jeez

eternal compass Oct 8, 2021, 2:08 AM

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maybe some boot order issue?

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something isn't defined at boot, but if you reload its already defined

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:09 AM

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No idea, Im not experienced enough in Erlang to figure out the exact issue thats happening

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 2:09 AM

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i presume you already read all the comments lol, but the last one seems moderately insightful

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:09 AM

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Yea I tried every suggested answer

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made the ejabberd user the directorys owner

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even granted 777

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 2:09 AM

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hot damn!

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:10 AM

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The only thing that worked was the reload method they suggested in the mentioned issue

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I think I made a mistake by installing ejabberd from ubuntus repo

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Should have just installed it like mentioned on their website

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 2:11 AM

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oh hmm yeah

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:11 AM

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I wish I could redo that part but I think thats just going to cause further delays without any promises on the issue actually being solved

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cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 2:13 AM

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that IDE looks painful to work with

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:13 AM

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thats not an ide

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just the default editor from moba

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 2:13 AM

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like MobaXTerm?

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:13 AM

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yes

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 2:13 AM

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oh lol

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:13 AM

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and no, lets not get into that argument again xD

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 2:13 AM

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well regardless, lack of syntax highlighting certainly isn't helping lol

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:14 AM

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yea

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There we go

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The whole point of the module is to avoid using erlang 😂

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throw the required info into another app

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Which did work

ocean quartz Oct 8, 2021, 2:17 AM

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For some reason that reminds me of php

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:17 AM

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🥲

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oh this is worse

ocean quartz Oct 8, 2021, 2:18 AM

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Lmao

old wyvern Oct 8, 2021, 2:18 AM

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writing this is actually pain

humble silo Oct 8, 2021, 3:56 AM

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why was this so hard....

Screen_Shot_2021-10-07_at_8.56.13_PM.png

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I havent done opengl stuff in like 4 months, its pain

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especially lwjgl 2, i wish minecraft moved to opengl 3 sooner 😔

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 4:16 AM

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k guys python can actually be really nice ngl

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Tuples, itertools.combinations, and forceful named parameters are very nice

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Oh and representing > and < as a method thingy! so cool!

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def min_or_max_vec_distance(data, *, calc_max):
    # Calculate the greater than/less than operator based on calc_max
    comparer = operator.gt if calc_max else operator.lt
    # Calculate the pair with the opposite distance to start with
    # For instance, if we want maximum distance, start with a distance of zero
    # If we want minimum distance, start with a distance of infinity
    best_pair = (0, 0) if calc_max else (math.inf, -math.inf)
    # Compute the current best distance using the best pair
    best_norm = np.linalg.norm(best_pair[0] - best_pair[1])

    # Get all combinations of 2 vectors in this collection
    for (a, b) in combinations(data, 2):
        # Calculate the new norm of the combo
        norm = np.linalg.norm(a - b)

        # Compare the two norms based on whether we're calculating the max or min distance
        # So if calc_max == True, then we're doing `norm > best_norm`
        # Else, we're doing `norm < best_norm`
        if comparer(norm, best_norm):
            best_pair = (a, b)
            best_norm = norm

    return best_pair, best_norm

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look at that bad boy

humble silo Oct 8, 2021, 4:18 AM

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cinder flare k guys python can actually be really nice ngl

I dont like you anymore

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 4:18 AM

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Trust me bro, I would never use Python for anything actually like sized as a program

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but as a scripting language for calculating little data sciency stuff, it has its ease-of-use for sure

humble silo Oct 8, 2021, 4:19 AM

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All i am seeing are underscores, pound signs for comments, and the lack of brackets ❤️‍🔥

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 4:19 AM

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Yeah I wish it wasn't like that too man

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But all the things I listed above that code are amazing

humble silo Oct 8, 2021, 4:19 AM

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you've set my heart on fire star

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lol

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 4:19 AM

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And I would love to know if other languages have htem

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My eyes are especially being opened to the beauty of tuples, they are so, so useful for returning multiple things

humble silo Oct 8, 2021, 4:20 AM

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Im glad you have found something good about the language, but i am still going to pray for you tonight

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lol

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 4:21 AM

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Alright I'll put it this way: I had the choice of taking Theoretical Linear Algebra or Applied Linear Algebra

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I'd rather be using Python than a pencil and paper for my exams

humble silo Oct 8, 2021, 4:22 AM

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Darn kids these days cant respect their ancestors and used wood and sticks like god intended

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smh kotlin would work fine too....

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ive been looking at kotlin native and kotlin for react and it looks really cool btw

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 4:23 AM

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Last I checked, Kotlin doesn't have tuples or force-named parameters

humble silo Oct 8, 2021, 4:23 AM

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go make a pr for it

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get some hacktoberfest points

cinder flare Oct 8, 2021, 4:23 AM

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And I don't know if it has a thing that calculates all combinations or can be used to represent < and > as a function for ease-of-use

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Trust me I would much rather use Kotlin any day

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but this course is in python and I've found some cool stuff lol

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tryin'a make the best of my sit'iation

humble silo Oct 8, 2021, 4:25 AM

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i see, well, good luck...

oak patrol Oct 8, 2021, 4:59 AM

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https://imgur.com/a/VCGX8yG
a image of a error i get in intelliJ

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help ;-;

ocean quartz Oct 8, 2021, 5:08 AM

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That quality, can't even read what the error says lol

oak patrol Oct 8, 2021, 5:13 AM

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ocean quartz That quality, can't even read what the error says lol

"error with attempting to retrieve verions" that what the error says