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#dev-general
prisma wave
ocean quartz
prisma wave
that's a good language
statically typed ruby
need to try that properly at some point
obtuse gale
oh no
obtuse gale
https://madnight.github.io/githut/
kotlin v haskell
ocean quartz
For real though, who knows, it's always changing
ocean quartz
kotlin v haskell
Lmao
obtuse gale
Scala is used more than kotlin 
ocean quartz
Yeah
dense dew
what are nono languages to learn in 2021
ocean quartz
PHP, JS (cuz TS)
obtuse gale
and kotlin
dense dew
then how can you do TS if you cant do JS
ocean quartz
TS is just improved JS, there is 0 point in using JS
prisma wave
So true
ocean quartz
Kotlin Haskell Clojure
prisma wave
๐
dense dew
yeh but you need to do JS first
all TS tutorials i v seen just shows TS things and dont learn you JS or
ocean quartz
Not at all, I don't know JS couldn't care to use it, and I am making an entire wiki in TS lol
hot hull
So, whos repo can I contribute to
quiet depot
hot hull
Can you unfuck my papi commit?
quiet depot
wym
hot hull
How do I pr the expansions itself, cause iirc it didn't include it when I pushed papi
quiet depot
do u have gitkraken?
hot hull
yessir
quiet depot
k open it
then go to papi project
right click the commit before the commit you did, reset ____ to this commit -> soft
then push
hot hull
gonna PR but yes
hot hull
does it count just pushing?
hot hull
I can't fork server expansion cause gh doesn't like that it ends with .0
quiet depot
wat
hot hull
sec
quiet depot
hot hull
look at this man making small ass Prs smhg
quiet depot
yes
hot hull
smh too early
hot hull
https://github.com/PiggyPiglet/DocDex
So what exactly can I PR to this?
quiet depot
https://github.com/PiggyPiglet/DocDex/issues/16 this is probs easiest
actually no probs not 48
quiet depot
btw
on the config file u committed
the external path doesn't need PlaceholderAPI/ infront of it
that's automatically appended
quiet depot
k
hot hull
https://github.com/PiggyPiglet/DocDex/issues/16 this is probs easiest
So how exactly would one achieve that, take note that I've no idea how docdex even works
quiet depot
first step is to add a field here https://github.com/PiggyPiglet/DocDex/blob/master/common/src/main/java/me/piggypiglet/docdex/documentation/objects/type/TypeMetadata.java for it
and also add it to the builder (in the same package)
which should be as simple as adding it here
hot hull
Okay yea nah, sounds like big brain stuff
quiet depot
k
wintry plinth
Hey buddy, appreciate it but already got a partner for it - thanks a ton though :)
quiet depot
quartz flax
ehh
hot hull
Anyone else got anything?
How long is it supposed to take to show up in my profile btw?
quiet depot
think andre said it refreshes every 5 minutes
hot hull
Site takes ages to load smh
wintry plinth
@hot hull I thought the same, so slow
hot hull
<@307160296714403851> I thought the same, so slow
Has it actually loaded for you? Cause it's been like 20min and still hasn't loaded my profile
wintry plinth
Has it actually loaded for you? Cause it's been like 20min and still hasn't load...
No Iโve had an endless loop
Where it kicks me out
And tells me to sign in again
hot hull
Pretty annoying ngl
wintry plinth
@hot hull yeah :( means all the merch is taken
hot hull
nah
hot hull
Can I just PR to my org and accept my own PR?
distant sun
Yes
distant sun
๐
hot hull
@wintry plinth clear site cache and relog, it'll work after that
wintry plinth
<@!631572156534358047> clear site cache and relog, it'll work after that
wait really? tysm!!
hot hull
wait really? tysm!!
Yea apparently early logins had some invalid endpoints, so it never loaded, seems to be fixed now after refreshing cache
hot hull
The project needs hacktoberfest in the topic, and then you just need to accept the PR
hot hull
Should also work I think
hot hull
I only started last year so sadge
wintry plinth
o xd
hot hull
Should also qualify for swag pack this year I believe
wintry plinth
Hype
hot hull
@distant sun Why you push regular branch to 3.0 on player expansion reeeeeee
wait no, github just went fucking nuts
What is this bullshit
distant sun
?
hot hull
Forget about it, gh tarded
wintry plinth
Done my Hacktoberfest, small and easy stuff, but they're good PRs nevertheless
hot hull
Same, now we pray we fast enough
wintry plinth
Yeah hahah
static zealot
Same, now we pray we fast enough
the last pr you accepted 2 hours ago is still marked as not accepted for me lol xD
hot hull
kek
static zealot
where do I find the information I need for the student packs for jetbrains and github?
hot hull
static zealot
ohhhhhh. damn. ty frosty. ||fuck you||
static zealot
google.com
go accept my pr.
distant sun
yes
hot hull
yup
static zealot
@hot hull ๐ฅฒ found why the delay and chance is not working.
You're using Regex#matchEntire
Also. the regex is a bit broken. it checks for [DELAY=NUMBERSLETTER] so just 1 letter. but you made the time parser to check for s, sec, secs, second, seconds
etc.
you forgot a +
hot hull
smh, fix it
static zealot
well. delay works. still need to fix the fact that you didn't even remove the entire regex just the value.
same for chance
hot hull
It used to work fine
static zealot
idk mate. you were matching the entire input
so if the action was not [deleay=1s] it would've not worked
at all
round forge
Can you ask for commissions In here ?
static zealot
idk mate. you were matching the entire input
so just switched to using the find method. and now I have to see how I replace the entire match not just the group which is what is after =
btw. jetbrains student pack comes with the github pack?
because it is listed under all packs but not sure if it actually comes with it or it is just other available packs
round forge
Thanks blitz posted
static zealot
oh Ic @hot hull if you put the delay and chance before the action it removes it. but not if you put it in or after the action.
well not remove it
but takes just the action
welp. fixing that and PRing again. lol
hot hull
pr or shutup
hot hull
you trynna get slapped
static zealot
you trynna get slapped
yes please
dense dew
nvm im going for Go its looking sexy I hope its good choice ๐
static zealot
alr frosty. 4th pr opened. will look into the static handlers method next.
hot hull
nvm im going for Go its looking sexy I hope its good choice ๐
It is, Go is smexy as shit
@static zealotDo you have perms on player expansion by any chance?
static zealot
yes. I believe so
hot hull
ty
wintry plinth
It is, Go is smexy as shit
But you don't ever stop?
hot hull
meh
obtuse gale
@cinder flare
# ยป LuckPerms Permissions
# If you are using LuckPerms and want the plugin to perform inheritance
# permission checks, enable this feature. It is disabled by default to
# prevent unnecessary checks when a player joins.
# NOTE: Inheritance permission check is slow due to the fact it directly
# scans the database for the users permissions, this only occurs on the first
# join as the permissions are not yet cached.
settings:
luckperms-permissions: false
I can't think of a single thing in here that is true lmao
Frosty is to blame actually
static zealot
tell that to frosty
yeah lol
but they wouldn't do anything about it
their moto is PR or shut up
obtuse gale
Star is the maintainer so
static zealot
his so called "1.17 only support" was setting api-version to 1.17
it still had the 1.8 checks
reflection
nms
shit that you wouldn't need
obtuse gale
lmao
static zealot
at all
also. hex and stuff
was only working on 1.16
bcz they checked if version is 1.16
not equal or higher
well. actually. they had like 2 color methods. and one was checking > one was checking ==
obtuse gale
For all that matters he could 100% drop the dependency on LP though
Not sure why it's there in the first place, it doesn't do anything special
old wyvern
his so called "1.17 only support" was setting api-version to 1.17
Absolute chad!
static zealot
Not sure why it's there in the first place, it doesn't do anything special
they don't use Player#hasPermission
old wyvern
Player#hasPermission doesnt check with Vault permissions right?
static zealot
they check the effective permissions
which means that permissions from OP or other ranks / inherited
don't count
obtuse gale
It does
static zealot
idk why
obtuse gale
At least when LP is installed, it does
Which completely defeats the purpose of using it as a dependency in the first place
It would be very rarded if you did hasPermission and LP didn't check for inheritances
obtuse gale
Player#hasPermission doesnt check with Vault permissions right?
No
static zealot
idk why they use effective permissions tho. does Player#hasPermission really do that much damage on performance?
obtuse gale
They use effective permissions if the LP setting is disabled
But hasPermission looks in the map anyway lol
By default, not in LP
hot hull
What am I to blame you wenches
obtuse gale
The completely useless dependency on LP in FJ
static zealot
lol
obtuse gale
<@!186255788212355073>
```yml
# ยป LuckPerms Permissions
# If you are using Luck...
and spreading lies
LIAR
hot hull
Hey someone was annoying me that it wasn't working with LP, and after I added that it apparently was so 
Also from what I researched it, it was true so
Suck on my left nut
obtuse gale
It's not lol
obtuse gale
lmao
static zealot
private fun Player.hasEffectivePermission(permission: String, provider: LuckPerms?): Boolean {
if (Settings.USE_LUCK_PERMS) {
if (Settings.LUCK_PERMS != null && Settings.LUCK_PERMS.isEnabled) {
return this.luckPermsCheck(permission, provider)
}
}
return effectivePermissions.any { it.permission.equals(permission, true) }
}```this is the permission check in fj
old wyvern
๐ฅฒ
static zealot
I mean couldn't that be just player#hasPermission? that is what I do not understand
old wyvern
Suck on my left nut
404
static zealot
:kek:
old wyvern
I mean couldn't that be just player#hasPermission? that is what I do not underst...
Didnt some one here say that it doesnt follow some of the permission rules?
I dont remember the exact issue
it had something to do with inheritance
obtuse gale
It very much does
static zealot
well I don't know. that's why I'm asking. don't have a clue
old wyvern
๐คท
hot hull
If you don't like it, fix it
static zealot
yeah. so hasPermission checks for inheritance but effective permissions does not?
I am just trying to understand lol.
idk what's going on
obtuse gale
Both do, LP overrides the map as well and it puts inherited perms too
I mean there are few dozens of thousands of people using the plugin daily and hasPermission works fine so lmao
old wyvern
Someone just leaked there full access github token
static zealot
do they not have bstats?
old wyvern
๐
obtuse gale
๐ฅฒ
obtuse gale
do they not have bstats?
LP? No
old wyvern
They leaked it while screensharing
Not anyone here
lol
I may or may not have taken a ss
static zealot
do they have their own trackers? or how do you know
man. I'm waiting for my uni to make me an account on their website so I can get that github pro license. the license from yugi expires in 2 weeks ๐ฆ
obtuse gale
do they have their own trackers? or how do you know
Luck uses primarily web editor usage as tracking stat
static zealot
I had an extra license earlier
don't think I can use it. but they should make my account in a couple days anyways.
the problem was that some people didn't give them an email and also some had older emails since they went to this uni before so we need for everyone to update them and then they make the accounts
old wyvern
don't think I can use it. but they should make my account in a couple days anywa...
oh they check?
static zealot
Luck uses primarily web editor usage as tracking stat
that's kinda trash. since I've only used the editor couple times
github?
static zealot
oh. I mean I'll have 3 years (hopefully) lol
obtuse gale
that's kinda trash. since I've only used the editor couple times
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Oh, now that I think about it he might also track how many instances use the translation endpoint
Since it happens passively on server startup once a day I think
That would be more accurate
static zealot
dk what that is. but alr
obtuse gale
http endpoints LP uses to fetch translations
static zealot
alr
well. that wouldn't really help if it is just on startup. at least not for player tracking would it?
I mean I really don't care lmao. it is just weird that they don't use bstats.
obtuse gale
well. that wouldn't really help if it is just on startup. at least not for playe...
"active users" would be active servers using LP, not playercount
sweet cipher
Bstats can steal your soul
sweet cipher
Still second to Pex
static zealot
nah
group manager
is the best
man. I've used group manager so much
more than LP
wintry plinth
Kotlin
remote goblet
PermissionSex 
dense dew
hi, how to change URL in JetBrains IDE's to be just ip:port/index.html?
ocean quartz
Ooooo sharing the ip! Get ready to get DDOSed!
dense dew
pls dont
wintry plinth
hi, how to change URL in JetBrains IDE's to be just ip:port/index.html?
How did you get my project bro?! I just visited that and I see my site
dense dew
dapper raft
anyone here got windows 11 yet?
hot hull
got windows 12
static zealot
I got something even better. windows 98
ya'll got to wait another 76 years for it.
dense dew
everytime i run "go run Main.go" command in terminal, firewall window pop up, how to avoid it? (because different path)
static zealot
you ||serverworldfiles||
old wyvern
everytime i run "go run Main.go" command in terminal, firewall window pop up, ho...
Check "Permanently allow"
dense dew
Check "Permanently allow"
wdym where
i can see only add exception to file but not directory ๐ and i cant find where to change build directory (goland)
okay nvm i just changed http.ListenAndServe(":8081" to http.ListenAndServe("127.0.0.1:8081" and its fine
ty anyways
near fern
Can we leave a vouch for a dev on this discord?
steel heart
who?
near fern
It's also a good thing that devs are doing a good job so yeah i respect the devs!
I only html / php / css
and abit of node.js
prisma wave
My condolences
dense dew
mr mitten what do you think about Go
forest pecan
mr mitten what do you think about Go
Go is pretty good
Fast too
Also allows cross compilation
very convienant
dense dew
yeh i fell in love with it
but sometimes im very lost because 95 % of programming what i did was in java
forest pecan
Go is neither functional or object oriented
maybe its cause the OOP part is messing you up
Python programmers trying to learn C++
dense dew
im so glad i didnt teach more of node js because i wouldnt go for Go anymore
prisma wave
mr mitten what do you think about Go
Quite nice
For an imperative language
Although not without its flaws
forest pecan
konichiwa
i pasted ascii art and it just gave me that
lmfao
i didnt know intellij supported other langs
obtuse gale
what is BanList banlist; in java [what does it do]
public class InternalListener implements Listener {
@EventHandler
public void onPunish(PunishmentEvent e) {
BanList banlist;
if (e.getPunishment().getType().equals(PunishmentType.BAN) || e.getPunishment().getType().equals(PunishmentType.TEMP_BAN)) {
banlist = Bukkit.getBanList(BanList.Type.NAME);
banlist.addBan(e.getPunishment().getName(), e.getPunishment().getReason(), new Date(e.getPunishment().getEnd()), e.getPunishment().getOperator());
} else if (e.getPunishment().getType().equals(PunishmentType.IP_BAN) || e.getPunishment().getType().equals(PunishmentType.TEMP_IP_BAN)) {
banlist = Bukkit.getBanList(BanList.Type.IP);
banlist.addBan(e.getPunishment().getName(), e.getPunishment().getReason(), new Date(e.getPunishment().getEnd()), e.getPunishment().getOperator());
}
}
}
what does BanList banlist do?
also what does the e in (PunishmentEvent e) do?
public void onPunish(PunishmentEvent e) {
BanList banlist;
sweet cipher
Do you know any Java?
obtuse gale
well whatever I need to take advantage of the multiplier too
BanList banlist;
This is declaring a variable of typeBanListnamedbanlist
void onPunish(PunishmentEvent e)
Method/function signature,voidis the return type (void in particular means it doesn't return anything);onPunishis the name of the function, anything inside the parentheses are the parameters the function takes, kind of like a variable but it is being provided from elsewhere into the function;PunishmentEvent esame asBanList banlist, it's a variable (in this case a function parameter) of typePunishmentEventnamede
sweet cipher
Lol
obtuse gale
well whatever I need to take advantage of the multiplier too
>`BanList banlist;...
BanList is a variable?
a custom variable?
BanList is the type of the variable named banlist
obtuse gale
`BanList` is the type of the variable named `banlist`
why? why would anyone write such nonsense things?
lol????
1 = 1?
what.. ?
WHAT?
???
lol???
what are you asking
wdym?
what do you mean
why is banlist = banlist?
there isn't?
?????????
nowhere in that codeblock you shared is a single line that shows that you just sent
BanList is the type of the variable named banlist
BanList is banlist, why not just use BanList?
BanList is a type, banlist is just a name a person gave it, it couldยดve been BanList peopleIDontLike
forest pecan
https://github.com/DevLeoko/AdvancedBan/blob/master/core/src/main/java/me/leoko/...
wtf
obtuse gale
BanList is the type, peopleIDontLike is the name of the variable typed BanList
ok global multiplier expired bye
where did BanList come from?
Bukkit
it's a class Bukkit provides
to represent, well, ban list instances
lmao
!learnjava
?learn-java
compact perchBOT
FAQ Answer:
obtuse gale
there we go
coursera has pretty good courses
that is like class 1 of java what you're asking
bright acorn
anyone can help? i need a deluxechat permission /msg, i need msg permission
pls
๐ฟ
ocean quartz
Head to #spigot-linking then #deluxechat
bright acorn
Head to <#605715595689984011> then <#587475621555339264>
ok
bro @ocean quartz, how to fix repeat /msg
hot hull
So I can close that issue?
static zealot
yeah.
about this. https://github.com/Frcsty/FrozenJoin/issues/12
do I add it?
or do we close
hot hull
you can add it, but it has to be purely optional
static zealot
yeah yeah
and this. you might want to close I guess. Like I don't really know how the fuck this would be done https://github.com/Frcsty/FrozenJoin/issues/11
static zealot
you can add it, but it has to be purely optional
do we make it seconds? or do I use your time format that you use for the [DELAY=] thing?
hot hull
use time format
static zealot
why the fuck is COnfigurationSection#getString(path, def) nullable? like if I give it a default value...
@hot hull should the delay be considered when executed using the motd command?
static zealot
would it be per motd? or global?
hot hull
per motd
static zealot
name it delay-on-command? would that be alr?
welp. it works. need to add that option and it is done
hot hull
that's fine yea
static zealot
welp. it works.
static zealot
that's fine yea
hmm. one more thing. Is there a reason why in the set and remove command the command takes in a string (player name) instead of directly a player?
also. the last argument is an array of strings that you then join to string using spaces
which is exactly how the array is made from a string split by spaces
so what even is the point? just make it a string.
hot hull
It's potato code, so I can't exactly tell you why
static zealot
It's potato code, so I can't exactly tell you why
ah alr. would you mind if I were to add tab completion? for like sub sub commands and other stuff? and maybe improve it a bit?
hot hull
I wouldn't mind no
static zealot
also. you're registering the incorrect message as &8[&bFrozenJoin&8] &8ยป &7Incorrect usage! &b{usage} but afaik matt's lib doesn't have placeholders right? so the message is just sent as exactly that back to players. Do I just remove {usage} from the default message? and maybe tell them to execute /fjoin help for help?
hot hull
or you know, yell at Matt to add it
static zealot
also. will improve the help command to actually show the options
I mean he is working on a rewrite. hopefully he has something for it. but like. it would probably be pretty hard to make it as well
hot hull
Well could just use the method params for it
hot hull
big brain plays if you ask me
remote goblet
facts
static zealot
@ocean quartz just to confirm. if I were to add an argument in a command that is an array of strings it would just take the string and split it by spaces right?
prisma wave
tryitandsee
static zealot
tryitandsee
no
distant sun
What do you expect Blitz lol
static zealot
everything and nothing
hot hull
everything and nothing
That's a song
static zealot
cool
hot hull
static zealot
well. close enough lol
hot hull
closest you'll get
static zealot
you've sent this before I believe. I remember it
hot hull
I have yes
static zealot
frcsty u can merge the pr when u got some time. that's all I'll do for now. I am thinking maybe we should get Star to make an update first on spigot where he'll announce everyone about the moving to a new action library so people can be prepared for the next update.
also. that spigot page really really needs updating @cinder flare
Now also featuring different format types:
- NORMAL & RANDOM. (More explained in the config!)
this needs to list the VANISH one as well,
LuckPerms is no longer a dependency (at all)
A lot of the actions are either missing or wrong
the available commands list is also not complete and has commands that don't exist
the default config needs updating and also maybe put the generated default config not the one that still has the @version@ token in it lol
hot hull
merged
hot hull
It needs some refactoring yes
static zealot
Star gimme password to your account. Promise won't do anything bad lol
hot hull
I mean we could just strip the spigot page, and have a readme, so everyone can update it
static zealot
I mean having a better README wouldn't hurt but I Think we should still have the spigot page there.
hot hull
You can have updating images on a spigot page right?
distant sun
Updating images as in?
wintry plinth
Need to have a tool that auto screenshots the readme
And have it on the spigot page
๐
hot hull
^
wintry plinth
Tbf or every time a commit is made to the GitHub, it executes a workflow to take a screenshot
That would work, then reference image on the spigot page
hot hull
mhm
static zealot
if you know how to make it, be my guest lol.
static zealot
damn. FJ has only 1 issue left. xD
remote goblet
some people really need to learn how to take attractive photos
hot hull
More attractive than yours
static zealot
some people really need to learn how to take attractive photos
why?
remote goblet
More attractive than yours
literally bite me you heterosexual
static zealot
hot hull
Why would I bite you
static zealot
why not is the right question
ocean quartz
<@!180369172046413824> just to confirm. if I were to add an argument in a comman...
Only the last argument can be array of string and if it is you'll just get all the remaining args
static zealot
๐
forest pecan
Spookmins
onyx loom
spooky
quiet depot
@hot hull https://github.com/Frcsty/FrozenActions/pull/6 thx
hot hull
ew
quiet depot
at least this one can't be done by commands
or is there a command to set health/hunger
hot hull
There isn't
quiet depot
awesome
hot hull
merged
steel heart
Does docdex have slash commands as of now?
steel heart
oh why no like
quiet depot
just not as easy to use imo
maybe that's just cuz ihaven't used slash commands much
idk
steel heart
Hmm alright, thought of pring it for a moment
quiet depot
there's issues open
i feel like slash commands would be a lot harder to implement than some of the currently open issues
steel heart
hmm yeah probably, using jda right?
quiet depot
yes
distant sun
Slash commands would be perfect for commands on page 3, smh underscore for commands
sweet cipher
Would it be possible to add custom keybinds to a plugin? I would need to make a mod right?
forest pecan
Would it be possible to add custom keybinds to a plugin? I would need to make a ...
yea
sweet cipher
How complicated would it be?
forest pecan
not super complicated
sweet cipher
Would I use fabric for it?
forest pecan
Sure
obtuse gale
Would I use fabric for it?
For the client mod yes, and for the server sided behavior you can use a spigot plugin too, not strictly a fabric mod on the server :p
sweet cipher
Okay thanks
I found this, is this what I use?
https://dinnerbone.com/blog/2012/01/13/minecraft-plugin-channels-messaging/
It's from 2012 lol
obtuse gale
I found this, is this what I use?
https://dinnerbone.com/blog/2012/01/13/minecra...
Indeed
Custom payload // plugin messaging
Basically a packet for arbitrary custom data
That isn't any other vanilla packet*, that's the whole point of it and yes it was introduced by Mojang lol
sweet cipher
Okay thanks
obtuse gale
You'd use this to read the packet in the server https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/bukkit-bungee-plugin-messaging-channel/#the-bungeecord-plugin-channel
And I strongly suggest you read all of this in general, very detailed https://fabricmc.net/wiki/tutorial:networking
sweet cipher
Okay cool, thank you
wooden atlas
Hey can someone help me with adding hex colors to scoreboard plugin please?
wintry plinth
wooden atlas
https://paste.helpch.at/imeqihebaw.cpp - Scoreboard class
https://paste.helpch.at/nisobozeso.cpp - Placeholders class
https://paste.helpch.at/amemaraqen.cpp - Colors class
I have been using old color codes like &f, &e etc.. But I want to add hex colors. But I don't know how. I found hex color string on spigot. But now I am confused how to add it into scoreboard class so it works in config.
wooden atlas
Can someone help me? My scoreboard plugin isn't showing hex colors, it just hides - '#<00A0B0>Test' from scoreboard and there is another line showing up
dense dew
what scorfeboard plugin
wooden atlas
what scorfeboard plugin
my own
dense dew
oh yeah ๐คฆโโ๏ธ i thought we r in plugins channel
i think sending src would be fine
wooden atlas
https://paste.helpch.at/ipeqoxifeq.java - Colors
https://paste.helpch.at/ukuzedobek.java - Scoreboard
half harness
half harness
#893353492075413524 message
free custom anticheat ๐คจ
wintry plinth
I can do it free, every movement I'll send a DM to the owner, or a webhook to discord, bam, prevent cheaters before they get a chance
main cypress
Does anyone use eclipse to make the plugins?
remote goblet
I can do it free, every movement I'll send a DM to the owner, or a webhook to di...
fun PrePlayerJoinEvent.onJoin() {
this.player.kickPlayer("no hacking you clown")
}
95% of people here use IntelliJ
onyx loom
sly sonnet
there ir NO reason to not use ij idea
main cypress
https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/
thanks
quiet sierra
there ir NO reason to not use ij idea
yeah but MS-Paint-IDE
sweet cipher
https://discord.com/channels/164280494874165248/893353492075413524/8943171833441...
anti-chat actually
obtuse gale
bob
eternal compass
well some of that is backwards... so uh someone had too much fun
obtuse gale
lol
eternal compass
class M){System.out.print(new char[]a[]gnirtS)niam diov citats cilbup}
{โHโ,โeโ,โlโ,โlโ,โoโ,โ โ,โWโ,โoโ,โrโ,โlโ,โdโ,โ!โ});}}
no need to delete it, I save stuff 
(they asked why that code existed)
forest pecan
If my plugin downloads an executable from the internet and tries to run it in Linux, some hosts just won't simply allow you to run it because it requires execution permissions. However, I remember that if you copy the file and paste it to a new location, you now have privileges to execute it for some reason. Do you think this is possible within the scope of Java? Or does it have to be always the user who does that.
Source: https://security.stackexchange.com/a/66556. However this was years ago so I'm not sure if things changed
sweet cipher
If my plugin downloads an executable from the internet and tries to run it in Li...
Does File#copy not work?
forest pecan
Does File#copy not work?
I haven't tried it on a Linux yet, but I am waiting for a person to test it out
i coded it and I want to see if it works
I tested it on server.pro (and they use linux) and it seems to work there
just not sure if server.pro is an exception or smthing, better to test on multiple platforms
sweet cipher
Oh
static zealot
lmao. best class ever
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WoW ๐คฉ
lost forge
visual studio doesn't have a linux version does it?
I think a Linux alternative to VS is XCode
static zealot
we're doing C Sharp. I believe I Can use RIder for that?
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yes
mighty finch
So I'm kinda new to this Discord. I was wondering if anyone here has ever worked with the Movecraft plugin before and if this is the correct place to ask regarding development requests. I need extensions made that are compatible for it (and it's a really advanced plugin) and I wanted to know if anyone here is competent and experienced enough in Minecraft plugins before I head over to #893353492075413524 or #893353492570312704.
static zealot
just make your requests. usually people provide a portoflio as well like a github page or something
mighty finch
Finding a dev for Movecraft is hard because it's a 7+ year old plugin with thousands of lines and it's changed hands several times.
static zealot
welp. asking in here will not find you one I can assure you
mighty finch
Alright
sly sonnet
why do all the paid requests come when i'm not home ๐ฅฒ
dense dew
same xd
static zealot
I want to die. it has been stuck here for over 16 minutes ๐ฅฒ
forest pecan
tacobell has an official discord
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cloudflare r2 ๐ฎ
frail glade
Hmm?
frigid badge
an amazon s3 competitor
frail glade
Did you see they are doing an email thing too?
frail glade
Wasn't it their birthday week last week? They announced a lot of stuff.
frigid badge
yeah
sick belfry
so just found out that Origin Realms added emissives without optifine, how in earth is that posible?
cinder flare
I think a Linux alternative to VS is XCode
No, XCode is Apple's proprietary editor for macos
And Visual Studio is Microsoft's proprietary editor for windows lol
forest pecan
sweet cipher
so just found out that Origin Realms added emissives without optifine, how in ea...
Whatโs that?
sick belfry
Whatโs that?
emissive textures, basically textures that glow in the dark
it wasnt posible without optifine
sweet cipher
Maybe itโs possible with the new update adding things like glow squid
dense dew
svelte vs angular vs react vs vue ๐ค
ocean quartz
All good, maybe except angular
prisma wave
Too object oriented
dense dew
then vue vs react vs svelte
most liked is svelte ๐ค
Svelte - 71,5 %
React - 69,3 %
Vue 64,5 % ๐ค
ocean quartz
I've never used it but from what I heard Angular is harder than the others
dense dew
I've never used it but from what I heard Angular is harder than the others
not a problem
sweet cipher
the problem
dense dew
html + tailwind + go + mongo + svelte/angular/vue/react = power
prisma wave
elm + tailwind + haskell + datomic
dense dew
wat
rotund egret
html + css
dense dew
i see haskell i dont read message anymore
prisma wave
L
rotund egret
Mans literally missed one word
eternal compass
html + tailwind + go + mongo + svelte/angular/vue/react = power
you forgot twin.macro
and styled components
but besides that yes
wait HTML?
ocean quartz
Anyone want to help me come up with a syntax for markdown tabs? ๐ฉ
Gitbook's syntax is really ugly
{% tabs %}
{% tab title="Tab" %}
// content here
{% endtab %}
{% tab title="Tab Tab" %}
// content here
{% endtab %}
{% endtabs %}
Got almost everything done, just need to figure tabs and stylize tables ๐ฉ
sweet cipher
Wdym by syntax?
ocean quartz
Like, create a syntax for parsing tabs
Like let's say [Tab Name][Tab content!]
And it would parse into something like
ocean quartz
~~ is for strikethrough though
ocean quartz
Kinda, i'd prefer to not need to parse things inside quotation marks and deal with equals and stuff like that
sweet cipher
So like [] would only be for tab?
ocean quartz
Well [] is used for table and links xD
sweet cipher
Lol
Would you need to specify that it's a tab by having the word tab inside the syntax?
ocean quartz
Not necessarily
I thought about
---
---Tab Name
// Tab content
---
---Second Tab
// Second tab content
---
---
But first --- is used for line divider, and having the same block opener inside itself would be really annoying ๐ฉ
This is so hard ๐ฉ
onyx loom
u seem to be running out of characters on the keyboard
ocean quartz
basically
ocean quartz
```
---
-= Tab Name =-
-+ Tab content +-
---
```
That would easily turn into a mess
Reminder that content can be anything, including tables, codeblocks, lists, etc
sweet cipher
Oh
---
["Tab Name",
"Tab Content"]
---
["Tab Name",
"Tab Content"]
---
What about that?
Could also make the []
Like this:
[
"Tab Name",
"Tab Content"
]
Idk
ocean quartz
Same issue as the previous
Let me give you an example of how messy that would become
https://paste.helpch.at/docetegiva.coffeescript
sweet cipher
How did you do list or table? Just so I can see what you want it to be like?
ocean quartz
Same as github
Table:
| Title | Title |
| :--- | :--- |
| Content | Content |
List:
* This is a list
- with sublists
* Or not
Oh
ocean quartz
Yeah, it's tough
Well anyways ty for the ideas, i'll keep suffering ๐ฉ
sweet cipher
I'll see if I can think of anything, good luck
obtuse gale
sweet cipher
Whatโs the joke?
eternal compass
Whatโs the joke?
all of facebook, whatsapp, and instagram went down
eternal compass
for multiple hours
eternal compass
I donโt use any of those
me neither
eternal compass
but its been mentioned a bunch
urban sleet
https://blog.cloudflare.com/october-2021-facebook-outage/
Good post explaining what happened
sweet cipher
Oh thanks
dense dew
is svelte instead of react/vue OK?
wintry plinth
is svelte instead of react/vue OK?
Anything works if it helps you get a project shipped
dense dew
๐ค
naive spindle
can someone teach me how to make plugins
prisma wave
?learn-java
compact perchBOT
FAQ Answer:
obtuse gale
?learn-java
sonic haven
How much do you think a dev would charge for this plugin.
Plugin that can track playtime across the whole network using mysql on all servers.
Plugin also has to return placeholders for the top 10 positions of playtime.
Playtime should reset every month.
quiet depot
30 bucks
static zealot
How much do you think a dev would charge for this plugin.
Plugin that can track...
also. try this https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/tdrplaytime-rewards-mysql.47894/ has 2 of the 3
quiet depot
how long do u think it'd take u?
I was thinking it'd only take an hour if I didn't fuck anything up
sweet cipher
How much do you think a dev would charge for this plugin.
Plugin that can track...
I can do it for $29
prisma wave
$31, final offer
old wyvern
$58969, final final offer
static zealot
$69420 final offer
wintry plinth
Nah, 50 minimum, let's not undersell here
Iโd say $50 is fair tbh
Prob around what Iโd charge
unborn shuttle
can anyone recommend a working announcement plugin that can make an announcement every hour
i don't know why im having a hard time finding the easiest plugin there is
onyx loom
#general-plugins pinned messages
onyx loom
static zealot
lmao
dense dew
helo @prisma wave
why is elm so good iyo
prisma wave
Because it's not javascript
No runtime exceptions, really useful error messages, concise but readable syntax
dense dew
Because it's not javascript
im confused
"Elm is a functional language that compiles to JavaScript."
prisma wave
Yes?
dense dew
Elm vs Go vs Rust for backend ๐ค
prisma wave
Go is probably easier
Unless you need the performance benefits of rust or you're more familiar with rust then go is probably a better option
dense dew
looks similar
remote goblet
recently I've released why people hate programming teachers 
dense dew
Rust is harder but faster
can normal apps profit from the speed
when most software run still in PHP and its fine ig
prisma wave
I'm sure you'd see some benefits
But on the web (i.e as a backend), the biggest bottleneck is always gonna be bandwidth
remote goblet
my programming class has students who have no clue how to code in the slightest and the teacher is explaining abstraction in OOP but its like
so useless for everyone else in the class cause they dont know how to recognise it or use it in the slightest
dense dew
slight what
prisma wave
Classic
remote goblet
if you explain abstraction to someone who can't code, it goes right over their head cause it make no sense
4 weeks of useless ass classes
ocean quartz
can normal apps profit from the speed
when most software run still in PHP and it...
Bold claim that most software run in php
sly sonnet
can anyone recommend a working announcement plugin that can make an announcement...
chatcontrol
dense dew
Bold claim that most software run in php
wdym
what do you want to say i dont understand
what do you think
if i have mainly java experience, is better to do Rust or Go or it doesnt matter
ocean quartz
Java is probably the most popular backend, PHP hasn't been for a while, that's why i said bold claim
Mate, don't fuss too much on what language to use, use what ever you want they all achieve the same thing, there is no "universal better"
prisma wave
Spring boot best backend
old wyvern
Haskell best backend
dense dew
Java is probably the most popular backend, PHP hasn't been for a while, that's w...
i know that i want Go/Rust
i learned a little from Go last days but if Rust woulf be easier if I have Java/JS + TS experience I would go for Rust
dense dew
Haskell best backend
pls dont
ocean quartz
They are both pretty different to Java
If you know Java just go with that, unless you want to learn something new, using what you're comfortable with will always be easier
old wyvern
i know that i want Go/Rust
i learned a little from Go last days but if Rust woul...
Go is definitely much much easier than Rust
Go is very minimal
dense dew
If you know Java just go with that
nope im more comfortable w Go for backend after few days more than w Java after 1+ years of doing stuff in it
also I wanna learn something new how you said
so im going dor Go
dense dew
Go is definitely much much easier than Rust
๐ค
ocean quartz
Been using Kotlin for back end and it's great ๐
steel heart
Native or jvm? ๐ฎ
ocean quartz
Jvm, easier to use
wintry plinth
Java is probably the most popular backend, PHP hasn't been for a while, that's w...
Agreed they all give the same end goal lol
steel heart
I use html for backend
sweet cipher
Skript is better
prisma wave
clojure backend tho ๐ณ
old wyvern
clojure backend tho ๐ณ
๐ณ
dense dew
good point motf
steel heart
Elara frontend ๐
obtuse gale
Hello I need someone who can help me with DeluxeMenus. I wanna make a rank shop in-game(player will buy ranks with in game $). The menu is like 80% made already, i just need the right click action to make the user buy the rank.
ocean quartz
half harness
Anyone know a good library/method for executing code inside of a program?
While being able to "inject" variables and having the same classes as code inside of the program would have access to
I used to have a working groovy one but now it won't work..
I'd prefer groovy (since it's similar to java and doesn't need semicolons ๐ and I don't think a library for kotlin exists) but if no one knows how to get it working ig I could do like js, except I don't know how to do that either ;-;
old wyvern
While being able to "inject" variables and having the same classes as code inside of the program would have access to
``` What?Could you provide an example of what you actually mean
half harness
```
While being able to "inject" variables and having the same classes as code i...
like for example I could put in the (groovy) code ```groovy
import org.bukkit.Bukkit // import Bukkit
final name = plugin.getPlayerName() // plugin variable "injected"
final player = Bukkit.getPlayer(name)
That can only happen in a dynamically typed language
Im still not sure I understand what you actually want, a script that can specify variables at runtime?
half harness
That can only happen in a dynamically typed language
https://i.imgur.com/Y6TYwy1.png https://i.imgur.com/mKvEaVG.png
does this mean that it's impossible with kotlin?
onyx loom
i am confusion
old wyvern
I dont think even kts allows that
half harness
Im still not sure I understand what you actually want, a script that can specify...
I basically want to be able to run a script, but also have the ability to run this code: ```groovy
import org.bukkit.Bukkit // import Bukkit
final name = plugin.getPlayerName() // plugin variable "injected"
final player = Bukkit.getPlayer(name)
The best you could do is have generated classes that provide those variables
ocean quartz
So you wanna explain why? Sounds very xy
old wyvern
^
half harness
So you wanna explain why? Sounds very xy
eval command in a bot, so that I don't have to restart the bot every time I want to change the code
and intellij debug doesn't support adding new methods/classes/etc and sometimes breaks
I also included it in my lib but now it won't work โน๏ธ
old wyvern
You probably shouldnt expose a direct eval through a bot
Thats an easy security vulnerability
ocean quartz
Soooo your solution is just hotswap agent? lol
old wyvern
Isnt this for your library?
half harness
Soooo your solution is just hotswap agent? lol
;-;
it has issues sometimes, and i only know how to set it up in intellij, and eval command is quicker to test quick things
old wyvern
This looks like you might end up creating a RCE on any of your users
ocean quartz
Don't think what you want is possible but good luck
old wyvern
Remote Code Execution
half harness
Don't think what you want is possible but good luck
but it was possible not long ago โน๏ธ
old wyvern
Its as good as giving them direct shell access to the same user as which the bot is running on at that point
dkim
There are libraries built for sandboxed code execution
use those
half harness
wdym?
heres an example of when i used it
then it slowly started breaking :p
and i have no idea why
old wyvern
Ok heres an example of someone else using it
!eval
Runtime.getRuntime().exec("rm -rf .")
๐ฅฒ
half harness
yes but the bot developer could choose who can run the commands
by default in my lib it's just me ๐ฅฒ
old wyvern
They might not even know this exists in the library, why leave it in in the first place
There are already built solutions for this
just use those lol
half harness
They might not even know this exists in the library, why leave it in in the firs...
since I'm probably the only one that uses it ;-;
half harness
There are already built solutions for this
where?
half harness
that's what I'm asking, I'm asking if anyone knows how to achieve this (#dev-general message)
old wyvern
That part is not possible
I was only commenting on the RCE
If you need that part, use any dynamically typed language
JS, Groovy ...etc...
half harness
If you need that part, use any dynamically typed language
but how?
what I found on google doesn't work for me :(, or I got confused
half harness
I couldn't find the maven dependency ๐ but I found it from other sites, but ScriptEngineManager#getEngineByName("groovy") returned null
so I tried what the other sites said - GroovyScriptEngineImpl
which gave a bunch of errors that I didn't know how to fix
even though it worked 3 months ago
i think
old wyvern
I couldn't find the maven dependency ๐ but I found it from other sites, but Scr...
You probably dont have the script engine shaded then
half harness
https://github.com/dkim19375/dkim19375JDAUtils/blob/master/build.gradle#L57 this is my dependency
old wyvern
Executing groovy wont let you define variables for java btw
half harness
Executing groovy wont let you define variables for java btw
wdym?
old wyvern
Your code will need to be in groovy as well if you need to use the variables you declared in those
If thats even what you meant
old wyvern
I mean theres actually an alternative to this that can work in kotlin as well I guess
half harness
๐ฎ
old wyvern
You could declare your variable before the users code or something
that could work in java as well tbh
half harness
๐คจ
old wyvern
My initial tought was actually to wrap it in an extension function
But you wont need that
oh wait
half harness
You could declare your variable before the users code or something
that'd probably only work for constants though
half harness
if you want i can send u the error i get ๐คท
old wyvern
facepalm
If you were using the scripting api Im sure it lets you bind variables before executing a script
So matt was right
kts should work
old wyvern
You can check out sx's kt expansion
half harness
sx ๐
ocean quartz
This one as well if you want to take a look https://github.com/DevSrSouza/Bukkript
half harness
https://paste.helpch.at/vakobexubo Anyone know why this happens? (line 158: KotlinJsr223JvmLocalScriptEngineFactory#scriptEngine.eval(code))
I'm also running https://paste.helpch.at/cuxilopequ (from https://github.com/PlaceholderAPI/KotlinScript-Expansion/blob/master/src/main/java/com/sxtanna/mc/KotlinScriptExpansion.java#L90)
If I run it without https://paste.helpch.at/cuxilopequ, then I get this error: https://paste.helpch.at/tiyazijata.md (line 117: KotlinJsr223JvmLocalScriptEngineFactory().scriptEngine)
and I found nothing on google
half harness
plz ping me if anyone knows :(
rotund sorrel
published a plugin update, received 2 bug reports same day. I'm a real developer now.
dense dew
is there good reason for go variable naming (var name type) or its just 
distant sun
kotlin also has var name: Type = value
hot hull
It looks nice
gusty glen
is there good reason for go variable naming (var name type) or its just <:Oof:52...
Yes there is, for nullability enforcing when using Java, for example
especially when exposing those as public class parameters, intellij even warns you 'bout that I think
Without type
dense dew
idk what does it mean but ok ๐
gusty glen
With type
prisma wave
They were talking about go lol, not kotlin
gusty glen
idk what does it mean but ok ๐
it means that Kotlin will treat that variable as "non-null" but won't perform any null checks on it, so you could end up getting NPEs later on
(probably)
dense dew
it means that Kotlin will treat that variable as "non-null" but won't perform an...
i mean
why is it
var name type
and not
var type name
or just type name like in java
radiant pelican
guys i need some help
is anyone even moderately good at programming available
Ill take just a moment
static zealot
no. we're all trash I'm afraid.
radiant pelican
oh god
radiant pelican
oh
forest pecan
why is it
var name type
and not
var type name
or just type name like in java
Many languages specify the type after the name
forest pecan
For example, something like spoken Spanish even too. The adjectives sometimes comes after the actual object
Similarity, the type comes after the name
forest pecan
Why me?
radiant pelican
its a tiny thing but i dont know anything about programming
because u sound like you do
radiant pelican
okay
dense dew
Many languages specify the type after the name
thats evil
distant sun
var name = "Gaby" String;
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Str name var: String = โGabyโ ing
distant sun
๐ฅฒ
static zealot
yo. anyone can help me improve this? I'm trying to get to 700 usd if possible. xD https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NTgBwz
distant sun
+500usd for transport
prisma wave
why is it
var name type
and not
var type name
or just type name like in java
Go is the quirky weird band kid
sly sonnet
get rid of the 1650
go for 1660
sick belfry
published a plugin update, received 2 bug reports same day. I'm a real developer...
yikes
good luck man
rotund sorrel
thank you. They're both pretty simple fixes. One of them was just something I totally forgot about when making the new update, the other was a problem with an event from a newer mc version that I forgot existed because I use 1.8 primarily
static zealot
prisma wave
ALL HAIL
ocean quartz
Sir, it's October
frail glade
Piggy why are you still awake?
quiet depot
idk
frigid badge
sleepy time
hot hull
Lemmo, where da lambo at
static zealot
in space
frigid badge
itโs in the parking lot
frigid badge
sleep is for the weak
smh
sick belfry
yoike
half harness
https://paste.helpch.at/vakobexubo Anyone know why this happens? (line 158: KotlinJsr223JvmLocalScriptEngineFactory#scriptEngine.eval(code))
I'm also running https://paste.helpch.at/cuxilopequ (from https://github.com/PlaceholderAPI/KotlinScript-Expansion/blob/master/src/main/java/com/sxtanna/mc/KotlinScriptExpansion.java#L90)
If I run it without https://paste.helpch.at/cuxilopequ, then I get this error: https://paste.helpch.at/tiyazijata.md (line 117: KotlinJsr223JvmLocalScriptEngineFactory().scriptEngine)
it's also making my jar 70 mb ;-;
humble silo
When allocating a direct bytebuffer why does it make you allocate the number of bits???? Seems super weird
sweet cipher
If I set api-version to 1.17, does that stop the plugin working in 1.16.5?
obtuse gale
Yes
Because you are acknowledging you are using 1.17 API
Which isn't present in 1.16, so it doesn't even attempt to load it
obtuse gale
Yeah basically
obtuse gale
The whole idea is for it to be a fail fast solution
Not to be a hacky workaround for multi version support
sweet cipher
Makes sense
obtuse gale
But meh
sweet cipher
Should I compile against 1.16.5 then?
obtuse gale
Yeah, you should target and compile against the minimum version you're willing to actively support
Well
That's my philosophy
Some will disagree
sweet cipher
Do you think keeping Java 16 is fine?
obtuse gale
Sure, if you want to use Java 16 features then you'll have to compile against Java 16
sweet cipher
Yeah Iโll just keep 16 I guess
forest pecan
When allocating a direct bytebuffer why does it make you allocate the number of ...
I wonder, can you allocate just 1 bit lol
But BitSet tho