dev-general

[static zealot]

java 16 is pretty cool

[woven plaza]

data classes, extension funcs, receivers do their job

[prisma wave]

Man that's a hot dev-general take

Daring today aren't we

Java has data classes

[steel heart]

You have been blessed

There’s no saving for those who fall into the Lombok cult

We’re glad to have you here instead

[obtuse gale]

In fact, not using Lombok is a requirement for the developer role 😌

[static zealot]

wait is it actually?

[obtuse gale]

Yeah lmao

[steel heart]

🤤

[static zealot]

oh that's great. I didn't know that

[obtuse gale]

@quiet depot will instantly reject you if you use lombok lmao

[steel heart]

😌

[static zealot]

oh I guess it falls in this category?

• An understanding and attempt
  at following your chosen languages'
  principles and conventions.

xD

[obtuse gale]

:P

[woven plaza]

like

I do not get ppl arguments

wow lombok is so goog

no contructors

getters

setter

you do not need to waste time writing them

etc

when you can literally generate them in 0 seconds

using intellij

[prisma wave]

based and intellijpilled

[obtuse gale]

IntelliJ no idea

[prisma wave]

what!

[static zealot]

man. only few months and I'll finally get IJ ultimate. and also git kraken so piggy won't yell at me anymore.

[obtuse gale]

bUt ItS mOrE lInEs Of CoDe

LoOk HoW cLeAn It LoOkS

[woven plaza]

I have ultimate for free

[steel heart]

“Lombok looks better”

[woven plaza]

who cares

it compiles to getters and setters

etc

anyway

lol

[ocean quartz]

They are just natives

[static zealot]

yeah. I'll get it as well. I'm currently not a student. well techincally I am since I Did pay for this year of uni. or at least the start taxes but I don't have their email or anything. I need to wait for uni to start

[woven plaza]

the only shit I would call useful in lombok are builders and extension functions shit

[steel heart]

I only care about source code!!!!!!

[steel heart]

So that’s where it all began

[woven plaza]

but using it for that 2 things is useless ig

[steel heart]

We have to annihilate that island

[static zealot]

is it wrong if I actually like the getter/setter methods in java? also I start to like java over kotlin? at least in how it looks? I'm asking if its bad bcz I'm starting to believe its my fault that it looks bad in kotlin xD

[ocean quartz]

It's right next to Java

[steel heart]

It has been a threat ever since then

A top priority to eliminate it

[steel heart]

It’s redundant but good

[obtuse gale]

It isn't necessarily wrong, it's just a different design philosophy

[steel heart]

Well maybe boilerplate is a good word

[half harness]

🤢

[woven plaza]

after kotlin I prefer doing ```java
public final int x = 0;
instead of
private int x = 0;
public int getX(){
return x;
}

[static zealot]

maybe. idk. Like there's some stuff I actually love in kotlin even design. but there's stuff I like more in java

[obtuse gale]

While yes Java is more verbose in a good number of things, it's also quite explicit in what you do and I like that explicitness in the design philosophy

[static zealot]

u shut up. you're code looks bad in both java and kotlin. you don't have a saying in this

[half harness]

oof

[static zealot]

bad*

there. fixed

[ocean quartz]

Well that'd be wrong, that isn't even the same as Kotlin
To be the same you'd need to do

@JvmField
val int = 0

[steel heart]

Yeah there’s significantly less inference in Java as opposed to kotlin

[woven plaza]

yeah what I mean is whats the point of another level of abstraction creating getter if you can just make it public

[steel heart]

Bruh

[obtuse gale]

Well

Perhaps you only want a public getter but internally it's mutable

[ocean quartz]

Well for the same reason Kotlin's properties aren't public fields

[woven plaza]

yeah you are right in that case

but if its not

you can just make it public

[ocean quartz]

Then your code is no longer consistent, you now have two different ways of declaring things

[steel heart]

Also if we have a getter we also have the ability to override it in a derivative and implement it from an interface, we can also return a defensive copy without changing what happens outside.

[obtuse gale]

You can also fit more logic in a proper getter/setter function (e.g. caching or dispatching events)

[ocean quartz]

Your point makes no sense, specially since you started the conversation with

when you can literally generate them in 0 seconds
using intellij

[steel heart]

Yeah lol

[obtuse gale]

And that goes unnoticed with Kotlin, you use it as a "field" but in reality it calls the underlying function

[obtuse gale]

Lol

[woven plaza]

what I mean is ```java
class Class{
public int x = 0
}

class Class{
private int x = 0
//setter
//getter
}

[steel heart]

If it’s a 10 min project maybe not

But really doing underlying work for anyone who might work on that code in the future can really save some time later.

[prisma wave]

x :: IORef Int
x = unsafePerformIO (newIORef 0)

:)

[steel heart]

😮

[prisma wave]

Cursed

[obtuse gale]

that was over two weeks ago lmao

[woven plaza]

how to not suck at design and architecture

[prisma wave]

min=1, max=10
random.nextInt(entry.min(), entry.max())
https://img.bristermitten.me/screen_2021-08-06_19-46-50_wZvB.png

what have i done here

[obtuse gale]

a joke

out of yourself

[prisma wave]

explain

[obtuse gale]

nah i don't really feel like it

[prisma wave]

fuck your mother

[obtuse gale]

#dev-general message

[prisma wave]

and father

[obtuse gale]

#dev-general message

[prisma wave]

and any other close family members

[obtuse gale]

#dev-general message

[prisma wave]

die

[obtuse gale]

hopefully

[prisma wave]

😖

please

what have i done

i beg of you

[obtuse gale]

are you sure about that

send more code dude lmao

[prisma wave]

oh no

[obtuse gale]

shit

[prisma wave]

i think i messed up some probability

[obtuse gale]

I just remembered the time I was administering a server

and I did

//chunk

[prisma wave]

oh no

[obtuse gale]

then I did //set ender_chest

lmao

[prisma wave]

lmao

[obtuse gale]

I locked myself out of the server

'cause too many packets or some bs

[prisma wave]

and then the undo history was gone?

[obtuse gale]

I ended up downloading the region file and deleting the chunk xD

[obtuse gale]

yeah

[prisma wave]

lmao

💀

on the bright side this is a good way to test if my undo mechanism works

with the pdc

[obtuse gale]

lmao

[prisma wave]

i suspect it won't

https://img.bristermitten.me/screen_2021-08-06_19-52-10_OsfP.png

fuck me

what does that even mean

oh

nvm

oh shit it actually did work

[obtuse gale]

what the fuck is that lol

[prisma wave]

pdc stuff

[obtuse gale]

biting more than you can chew ByteStreams edition?

[prisma wave]

yeah

well

it was a classic blunder

i thought an int was 8 bytes instead of 4 🤡

[obtuse gale]

lol no

[barren solar]

Well if it was a long long int 🤔

[prisma wave]

long long

[obtuse gale]

Integer.SIZE :d

[prisma wave]

nice

[obtuse gale]

it's native lmao

@Native public static final int SIZE = 32;

ooo Integer.BYTES exists too

just found out about this one field public static final int BYTES = SIZE / Byte.SIZE;

[prisma wave]

neat

[barren solar]

I'm looking it up now and for both 32 bit and 64 bit systems "int" is 4 bytes

[prisma wave]

https://img.bristermitten.me/screen_2021-08-06_19-58-19_orev.png i hate this

[barren solar]

So why is "long int" 4 bytes on 32 bit and 8 bytes on 64 bit

[prisma wave]

C bad

[potent nest]

What is @Native for? Documentation purposes?

[barren solar]

That's java (well it's on oracles website so I just assumed lol)

[obtuse gale]

JNI I believe

[prisma wave]

long int is not a thing in java?

[obtuse gale]

JNI but for fields

[prisma wave]

and long is always 8 bytes

even on 32 bit

no?

[potent nest]

But what’s the usage there

Time to find out

[barren solar]

Nope https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19253-01/817-6223/chp-typeopexpr-2/index.html

[obtuse gale]

long double is a myth

[obtuse gale]

also that isn't java lmao

[barren solar]

Well oracle shouldn't have it then 😠

[obtuse gale]

it's D

what the hell even is D

[hazy widget]

i was just about to say that lmao

[prisma wave]

D is like C++ but good

[static zealot]

its the D

[potent nest]

Okay @Native is for tooling but does not have an own functionality as it seems

[barren solar]

That would make sense why long is different sizes depending on 32 or 64 bit

D is trash

[obtuse gale]

you misspelled rust

[prisma wave]

all native languages do that though

[barren solar]

Since long is a modifier can you just add as many as you want in front of an int

Or is it hardcoded to only understand up to two

Speaking about C here

[obtuse gale]

it's not really a modifier

it's a type itself

you can just have a long alone

[barren solar]

Wiki calls it a modifier

[obtuse gale]

what article

but the answer is no btw

[barren solar]

C data types

I just tried it and the error thrown is

main.c:13:15: error: ‘long long long’ is too long for GCC

[prisma wave]

beta gcc

[barren solar]

What about g++

[static zealot]

yo I Think I've asked this before but I have a bad memory. on the new migration thing, mojang won't allow multiple accounts on the same microsoft account right?

[prisma wave]

i believe not

[hazy widget]

multiple accounts on the same microsoft account?

[static zealot]

fucking hell. this will suck

[static zealot]

multiple minecraft accounts.

[hazy widget]

oooooo

[obtuse gale]

Size
short - target type will be optimized for space and will have width of at least 16 bits.
long - target type will have width of at least 32 bits.
long long - target type will have width of at least 64 bits. (since C++11)

[hazy widget]

yeah that will suck

[obtuse gale]

also TIL short and long are size modifiers

[prisma wave]

short long int

[obtuse gale]

I always used them as types of their own lol

Note: as with all type specifiers, any order is permitted: unsigned long long int and long int unsigned long name the same type.

cursed

[barren solar]

Wait what the hell

You can have int in the middle

[obtuse gale]

https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/types btw

that's my source

very pog page

[barren solar]

Wait

So what if you want to do a pointer

[obtuse gale]

size_t

[barren solar]

long int unsigned long* or long int* unsigned long

[obtuse gale]

or if you wanna be fancy std::size_t:^)

[hot hull]

Oop, budget gone down again, he must've bought some coffee

[obtuse gale]

neither, on 32 bit it's 32, so long long is innacurate

[barren solar]

long int unsigned* or long int* unsigned

[obtuse gale]

and on 64 bit long may be inaccurate since it is at least 32 (meaning it can be 32 bits wide)

that's why size_t exists lol

or std::ptrsize_t or smth

[barren solar]

But where does the * go for pointer declaration when your modifiers are on both sides of the data type

[obtuse gale]

oh you'll shit bricks

the * is not part of the data type

it's part of the variable

so long *a represents more accurately what a really is than long* a

[barren solar]

Oh that's cute

[obtuse gale]

long* a, b, a is a ptr to a long, b is a long

that's why in some projects you'll see it on the right

[barren solar]

That seems like it should really not function that way given the space

[obtuse gale]

I mean for all that matters you can do long*a xD

[barren solar]

Wait really

[obtuse gale]

yea

[barren solar]

Where does this absurdity line get drawn

[obtuse gale]

* can't be part of a type or a variable name

that's where

I suppose lmao

[obtuse gale]

but it "belongs" to a, if you also want b to be a ptr you'd do long *a, *b;

it's more like

hmm

the underlying type is a long

and this variable is a ptr

[barren solar]

I'm gonna start coding without the space between type and variable name to piss people off

Can java do that too

[obtuse gale]

lmao

[obtuse gale]

well java ain't got no pointers

[prisma wave]

Unsafe 🥴

[barren solar]

Oh my god you're right it's the starasterisk that distinguishes data type from random variable name

I wasn't even thinking about that

[ocean quartz]

public final class Pointer {}

Checkmate atheist

[prisma wave]

oh my

[obtuse gale]

were sayin? https://jd.adventure.kyori.net/api/4.8.1/net/kyori/adventure/pointer/Pointer.html

[ocean quartz]

Oh my god

[obtuse gale]

lmao

it's a pretty neat concept though, you can get stuff like e.g. a "display name" or a "UUID" if implemented in the Audience

instead of doings casts n shit 💀

[prisma wave]

what do you mean "quotation mark"

[obtuse gale]

"drugs" \😉

[prisma wave]

what the hell!

[jovial warren]

hey guys, just wondering: I've just spent a bit of time working on a block property system for Krypton, and I just want some opinions on it, would anyone mind looking through this PR? https://github.com/KryptonMC/Krypton/pull/47

[obtuse gale]

that's a lot of lines

[jovial warren]

I thought I'd ask here since I thought you guys might be the best to review this

yeah a lot of it is probably the enums, the constants, and some internal stuff

[potent nest]

http://ptgmedia.pearsoncmg.com/images/9780131774292/samplepages/0131774298.pdf search for decoder there if you want to see the pure beauty of C

[jovial warren]

actually, there's another commit in there that shouldn't be in there, which has quite a few changes iirc @obtuse gale, probably what makes it that size

basically, how the system works is that you can take a Block, for example, Blocks.AIR, and get/set properties on it of certain types to values of those types

all whilst introducing limited extra allocations and having the property map still internally be strings

e.g. you can do something like this: kotlin val myGrass = Blocks.GRASS_BLOCK val isSnowy = myGrass[Properties.SNOWY] // gives you a boolean because SNOWY is a Property<Boolean> and to set: ```kotlin
var myGrass = Blocks.GRASS_BLOCK
myGrass = myGrass.set(Properties.SNOWY, true) // Blocks are immutable, so this is why we have to do this

[obtuse gale]

okay but how about myGrass[Properties.SNOWY] = true 👀

idk how you can do that lol

[eternal compass]

That looks like JS

[barren solar]

Every language wishes it can mimic a fraction of js power

[eternal compass]

Haha haha

[ocean quartz]

Just adding operator to that function would make it work like that

[jovial warren]

would be possible, if set didn't return a new instance because Blocks are immutable

[jovial warren]

it does have operator on it, but in the assignment context, the compiler will get confused and think you're trying to do one of those Java-style double assignment things, which won't work

[obtuse gale]

so it cannot return anything other than Unit?

[potent nest]

use + then heh

[ocean quartz]

It can but it's not allowed when assigning, val test = test["test"] = true error val test = test.set("test", true) works, same function

[static zealot]

mann.... I really hate being that guy but I Just started a 1.12.2 server in 2 seconds and I Moved to 1.17.1 on the same server, same plugins, same everything and it started in 22 seconds.

[half harness]

ooooooof

2 seconds is really quick tho

[potent nest]

22 sounds like a lot

[forest pecan]

22 inches

vs

2 inches

[eternal compass]

Pulse really hoping that people prefer 2

[forest pecan]

Lmao

[jovial warren]

[obtuse gale]

what about test = (test["test"] = true)?

[ocean quartz]

Nope

[jovial warren]

pretty sure that assignment isn't an expression

unfortunately

[obtuse gale]

lol rip

[jovial warren]

yeah, assignment is one of the few things that isn't an expression, and there's probably a good reason for that

[prisma wave]

it's probably so you can't do stuff like ```java
if (a = b) {
//uh oh
}

[obtuse gale]

you can do that in java :^)

[prisma wave]

indeed

on the other hand, you can't do ```java
int i;
while ((i = next()) != 0) {
// blah
}

[obtuse gale]

🤨

yes you can?

[prisma wave]

no

i mean

in kotlin

[obtuse gale]

why'd you write ```java lmao

[prisma wave]

to demonstrate

that it is possible in java but not in kotlin

val i: Int
while ((i = next()) != 0) {
  // blah
}

is that better?

but now you will call me a fool for writing code that doesnt compile

cant win here

[lunar cypress]

next().also { i = it }

[prisma wave]

🤢

absolutely vile

[obtuse gale]

lol

[calm night]

How do I verify myself to get a role? I need help with deluxe chat

[static zealot]

#spigot-linking . follow the steps in there

[calm night]

there is no to create ticket?

I want to know how I enable special characters

example: Ñ

[static zealot]

well if you link your spigot account you will unlock a special channel: #deluxechat where you can ask whatever questions you want about the plugin. including that.

you will just have to make sure all your data is correct (discord that is set on spigot) and your profile is public. then go to #bot-commands and do =spigot <your-spigot-id>

[rugged compass]

anyone can help me with goddamn boss bars?

without just telling me to use APIs

[static zealot]

#development

[static zealot]

just use Adventure. xD

[rugged compass]

reeeee

[low orchid]

So im trying to setup my Craftingstore new template. And no i cant ask the creator because his support is very bad

so...

https://gyazo.com/5ddefef26d5e297dafa12a895b488e4a

that thing keeps loading and loading forever

normally there should be the login thing there

so you can put your username there

nvm - FIXED

[static zealot]

damn. another decent paying job in #871306912342343701 . I can't believe this

[ocean quartz]

Omg ;o

Knowledge of Gradle

[static zealot]

oh is that on the apply page? damn that's cool

[barren solar]

@cinder flare knows I sure as hell can't apply then 😂

[ocean quartz]

Kek

Tbh would be a cool job, too bad I'm too lazy

[static zealot]

lmaooo. I Was thinking the same. my laziness will just get me fired in couple days lmao

not that I was even thinking about applying

but still

[hard matrix]

hey, should I use maven or gradle to build my mc plugins?

[stuck harbor]

gradle

[ocean quartz]

Gradle

[stuck harbor]

no need to finish sentence

[obtuse gale]

gradle

[hard matrix]

I have only just started getting into developing mc plugins I have never done it before

[ocean quartz]

Very good thing to learn

[static zealot]

gradle

[ocean quartz]

Use kts gradle btw

[stuck harbor]

1. learn java if u haven't already
2. learn kotlin
3. use gradle

[hard matrix]

is their a good tutorial for setting up gradle in intellij?

[static zealot]

kts if possible. if not, groovy will work.

[stuck harbor]

kts best

[static zealot]

I mean its literally 2 buttons. actually 1

when you make a new project

[stuck harbor]

groovy is 🤏

[ocean quartz]

When you create a new project you can just select gradle project
If you already have one gradlew init

[hard matrix]

great thanks

and it will automatically create POM and add spigot dependencies?

so no need to download build tools?

[ocean quartz]

No, pom is maven, and the build tool has nothing to do with spigot

You'll have to add it yourself

[static zealot]

well. not pom. build.gradle. but yes. it will create it. but spigot you have to add yourself

[ocean quartz]

And you don't need to download it if you're using IJ

[hard matrix]

oh I though I needed build tools

[static zealot]

well you need if you want to work with NMS

but otherwise you don't

[cinder flare]

Only to build spigot

[static zealot]

and you only have to run them once.

[hard matrix]

ah okay so i just create new project with gradle, then download spigot?

what do i do with spigot?

[static zealot]

no

you don't need to download spigot

here.

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/spigot-gradle/

[cinder flare]

You just add it to the build.gradle and it'll do the rest for you

[static zealot]

you just add the repository link and then the spigot dependency in build.gradle

and then refresh or whatever that is called

[ocean quartz]

.kts

[stuck harbor]

yes

[cinder flare]

That's the dream

[stuck harbor]

or leiningen ;)

[hard matrix]

https://ldprice.com/public_images/idea64_Y7PJkxbqiu.png i see gradle Groovy but no kts

[ocean quartz]

((leinin)gen)

[hard matrix]

oops

[stuck harbor]

oui oui

[hard matrix]

embed dont work

[stuck harbor]

u aren't rank enough

[static zealot]

select Kotlin DSL support.

[stuck harbor]

iirc

[static zealot]

or whatever the button is

https://ldprice.com/public_images/idea64_Y7PJkxbqiu.png i

[static zealot]

^^^^

[stuck harbor]

that

also java 14?

man

[static zealot]

^^ why 14? xD

[stuck harbor]

get 16

[hard matrix]

yeh i have 16

just didnt select

[static zealot]

select 16 then

and select the Kotlin DSL button as well

then Next

and you're good to go

[stuck harbor]

well get 17 soon enough

[static zealot]

is it not next year?

[hard matrix]

i cant see that option

[static zealot]

oh wait its actually September

[hard matrix]

i must be blind sorry

[static zealot]

he sent a ss here

[stuck harbor]

yeah this sebtember

[cinder flare]

Nah it's in a few months

[static zealot]

between java version and java

[cinder flare]

Yeah next mouth woooo

[hard matrix]

oh shoot

sorry yes

[static zealot]

yeah. I remembered. its septemeber. for some reason I was thinking next year.

[stuck harbor]

next mouth

next mouth

[static zealot]

do u think MC 1.18 will require java 17?

[stuck harbor]

next mouth

jesus my keyboard

[static zealot]

thank you sir. you forgot to put the face of the ultimate chad in the corner tho

[stuck harbor]

the enter key is soooo stuck

its like 5cm lower than all the other keys

[static zealot]

wait what the fuck?

[ocean quartz]

Ultimate chad? xD

[static zealot]

your keys go 5 cms down when you press them?

[stuck harbor]

maybe like 2 then

idfk

[static zealot]

Kangaroo or whatever his name is

[stuck harbor]

im british we use fathoms

[ocean quartz]

Oh lmao

[hard matrix]

so now what do i do? I have my new project open, how do I add spigot API as dependency?

[static zealot]

I used to have him automatically appear when I Used sharex

lmao

[static zealot]

go to build.gradle.kts

[hard matrix]

yep

[static zealot]

and either read this https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/spigot-gradle/

[hard matrix]

ah yep thx ill read first

[static zealot]

only read the build.gradle.kts part

no need to read the others

well. time to sleep. good night. ||and when I say sleep, I really mean just stay another 2 hours in bed watching youtube then crying on how little time I have left to sleep||

[stuck harbor]

||same||

[static zealot]

xD

||serverworldfiles||

bringing back a dead meme bcz I'm cool

[hard matrix]

dependencies { // Pick only one of these and read the comment in the repositories block. compileOnly("org.spigotmc:spigot-api:1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT") // The Spigot API with no shadowing. Requires the OSS repo. compileOnly("org.bukkit:bukkit:1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT") // The Bukkit API with no shadowing. compileOnly("org.spigotmc:spigot:1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT") // The full Spigot server with no shadowing. Requires mavenLocal. compileOnly("org.bukkit:craftbukkit:1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT") // The full CraftBukkit server with no shadowing. Requires mavenLocal. }

[stuck harbor]

two can play at that game bucko

[static zealot]

[hard matrix]

Which depend should I go with>

[static zealot]

first one most likely

[stuck harbor]

||can i haz cheezburger||

[static zealot]

unless you want to use NMS. then third one

[static zealot]

||burgir||

for some reason I love the burgir meme

[stuck harbor]

sometimes i feel 300 years old with modern memes

[static zealot]

its so fucking good. the burgir meme. I just watch it on repeat.

[ocean quartz]

Requires the OSS repo.
What? Who wrote that

[static zealot]

https://youtube.com/shorts/jZlmhZlc6iM?feature=share

[hard matrix]

which generator should I use?

[static zealot]

idk. the gradle wiki is ass. doesn't even use 1.17.1. just 1.17

[stuck harbor]

idk if thats right cause i use paper like a normal human

[static zealot]

that's why you use paper repo

[stuck harbor]

lol

[static zealot]

I'll just say this again. I Fucking love this meme.

[stuck harbor]

dancing polish cow?

[static zealot]

lmao

burgir meme. it reminds me of myself when I Was young

[stuck harbor]

fun fact: i am currently hitting my enter key with a fancy danish pencil

[hard matrix]

anyone use this addon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebt7F660qD0 ?

[static zealot]

its on youtube so most likely not xD

[ocean quartz]

It's the mc dev plugin, a lot of people do

[static zealot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebt7F660qD0

ah yeah I do

lmao

[stuck harbor]

1.13? why

why tho

[static zealot]

even tho... it literally just generates this every time: name: version: main:

that's literally what it generates every time

there's probably a way to make it better but yeah.. I Didn't give a fuck lmao

and yes it does generate it with that spacing. its literally more work to fix it than do it manually

[frail glade]

Are there any development videos on YouTube that are like not 20 years old?

[stuck harbor]

no

[static zealot]

yes. the ones from KnightzMC

they're great

[ocean quartz]

@prisma wave Smh

[static zealot]

||cries in 23 languages||

oh damn. java 16

love it

[stuck harbor]

man they still not out yet?

man

[prisma wave]

please

Let me rest

[stuck harbor]

👨

[ocean quartz]

No, we can't let you rest without the yt videos

[prisma wave]

maaaaaaaaaaaaa

[static zealot]

n

[prisma wave]

I have a bag to be chasing

[stuck harbor]

no sleep, only make kanban boards and compile gentoo to increase efficiency by 1%

[prisma wave]

Mediocre tutorials don't earn me anything

[stuck harbor]

adsense

[static zealot]

lmao

[prisma wave]

you need like a million subscribers for that

[stuck harbor]

sponsors?

[static zealot]

imagine all the 10k viewers that you can get from helpchat alone

[prisma wave]

True

If I get a sponsor from helpchat I'll do it

[static zealot]

and no. you need just a few hundred subscribers and few thousand views

[prisma wave]

that's still a lot

[static zealot]

for you to be able to put ads on your videos

[stuck harbor]

i think im monetized on yt actually

[static zealot]

well not with the help of HelpChat

[stuck harbor]

i dont make vids

[prisma wave]

Flex

True

Look

[static zealot]

damn

[prisma wave]

I want to do them but money and other side projects just have higher priority

Mainly money

[static zealot]

imagine what an @everyone would do in #off-topic besides make like 200 people leave. damn

[stuck harbor]

man imagine taking paid plugin stuff

[prisma wave]

Oh god I thought that pinged everyone for a minute

[static zealot]

imagine getting paid

[prisma wave]

It would be great

[stuck harbor]

fun fact: if someone doesn't pay for ur plugin work, u should get a high court order to declare them bankrupt 👀

100% effective dangerous solution to all problems: the courts

[frail glade]

That's why you go under contract or request half up front.

I remember those days 🥲

[stuck harbor]

i will have you charged with handling a salmon under suspicious circumstances and pretending to be an egyptian if no pay

then again, you could have me shot if i entered chester as a welsh person

that would be an op move

[static zealot]

[stuck harbor]

all british laws man

par example, http://chester.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Shoot_the_Welsh

[static zealot]

every country has some weird 300 years old laws unfortunately.

[stuck harbor]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmon_Act_1986

[static zealot]

us has the maritim law or whatever its called for example

[stuck harbor]

between legal and illegal salmon fishery, among other things. The Act also makes it illegal to "handle salmon in suspicious circumstances".

1986 man

not 300 years old

[static zealot]

where in case of an accident at sea or a disaster, the company that owns the boat can sue those that were on board.

which is bullshit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj7UQ8zDN24

[stuck harbor]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptians_Act_1530

[static zealot]

are those still a thing tho? Like were they not changed/removed?

[stuck harbor]

damn that one was repealed in 1856

[static zealot]

oh yeah. just read that

in the repeal of obsolete statues act

[stuck harbor]

and the chester one is just a myth that is around that area

[static zealot]

makes sense

[stuck harbor]

but the salmon one

that still law

[static zealot]

well unfortunately this one is real

well I mean

it does say

that susspiciouse means fished ilegaly

its just the wording that's strange with that law

man... I really hope that whenever the guy that invented hCaptcha dies, he gets greeted at the gates of heaven and has to complete 2 of them without a mistake to get in or otherwise he'll be thrown in hell.

[stuck harbor]

fun fact: british judges wear black cause they are mourning queen anne

[hard matrix]

hmm not able to resolve the paper mc repo :https://ldprice.com/public_images/idea64_85UU04RNYA.png

[stuck harbor]

who died like 300 years ago

[static zealot]

dk who that is

[hard matrix]

how can I fix that?

[static zealot]

show us your build.gradle.kts

[stuck harbor]

did u add the repository?

[static zealot]

in a paste bin please: https://paste.helpch.at

well.. guess who didn't go to sleep 20 minutes ago when they said they will...

[stuck harbor]

lol

||same||

[static zealot]

it was queen anne of course...

easy question. damn

Finally closed pc. Time to see what's happening on youtube

[stuck harbor]

man we can't make threads ... :(

[static zealot]

Yeah. Bcz bots can't access them

[stuck harbor]

anyone found any serious security exploits in the threads system yet?

[static zealot]

So you understand why cube loecked them ... XS

[stuck harbor]

there always are some

well yeah

[obtuse gale]

dyno logs things from threads without being in them tho lol

[static zealot]

Well. No bots for starters

Oh. Maybe. Not sure. Cube didn't want to risk it

[obtuse gale]

it's weird as hell though

like for instance in LP even if clippy is in a thread, it won't register ! commands

but dyno whether it's there or not, it will log stuff (edits deletions)

[hard matrix]

I only have a build.gradle now after using the mc dev addon to create new project

Is that still okay to use?

[static zealot]

Maybe bcz he's like a trusted bot or whatever it's called. Or is it not?

[stuck harbor]

man

[static zealot]

U forgot to select kts

[obtuse gale]

verified? I don't think it's to do with that tbh

[ocean quartz]

Seems like threads trigger normal message event

[static zealot]

Oh maybe not. Not sure. Just speculating

[frail glade]

Go to bed

[hard matrix]

where?

[static zealot]

I am in bed.

[obtuse gale]

yeah but clippy won't register the ! commands xD

[hard matrix]

When creating new project with mc dev addon there is no option for kts

[obtuse gale]

and I think dyno won't either

[static zealot]

There is. In the same place it was before

[obtuse gale]

threads are reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally in their early stages

[hard matrix]

https://ldprice.com/public_images/idea64_9EQy7xdna0.png thats what it looks like for me

[static zealot]

You first go to the addon, select paper then go back to gradle and select the

[hard matrix]

oh

[ocean quartz]

rushed implementation Discord's favorite

[static zealot]

U need to go back to gradle and select the thing

[hard matrix]

yep

didnt realise I could do both

[static zealot]

Welp. Good night.

[hard matrix]

should I have groovy and Java selected?

[hard matrix]

thanks for your help!

[ocean quartz]

Just Java

[hard matrix]

and I am assuming I should update gradle wrapper to 7.0? https://ldprice.com/public_images/idea64_k5iwNnZRSc.png

It sill did not create the gradle..kts

I am also getting this error: https://ldprice.com/public_images/idea64_XrZDc9YZFa.png

[obtuse gale]

excuse me what?

[hard matrix]

all i want to do is get started making a mc plugin

i wish there was a full tutorial out there that used the MC Dev plugin and gradle kts

[cinder flare]

looks like you got double-doubled

which of are you trying to use lol

[obtuse gale]

The uh.. first one? 🥲

[signal tinsel]

Hmm

Does spigot allow transferring plugins to other creators?

[onyx loom]

pretty sure yea

[forest pecan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gXf7GQhNos

😮

a bit laggy

but for 18x8 screen its super good

[barren solar]

That is very cool especially if you handle all the different video encodings yourself oof. Plus automatic resource pack creation god DAMN son.

[obtuse gale]

Benchmark classes should not be final
fuck off

[obtuse gale]

I hate my life even more at this very precise moment in time

Running a jmh benchmark, single threaded, 24 methods, 3 iterations each, 2 forks each, 10 seconds each... 5 warmup iterations.....

This is gonna take forever

[forest pecan]

🥲

[potent nest]

What are you benchmarking?

[obtuse gale]

Uh

[sweet cipher]

A bench

[forest pecan]

a mark

[sweet cipher]

I don't think you can bench a mark

[obtuse gale]

Different methods for checking if a string can be parsed into an int (+ parsing them) with different test cases

[forest pecan]

(int) str

[sweet cipher]

Or you could go back to my idea of numbers being only in Strings

[obtuse gale]

I'm expecting Integer.parseInt to be the slowest lol simply because generating stacktraces is heavy

[potent nest]

Sounds interesting

But yeah it will heavily depend on if it can be parsed or not I guess

[obtuse gale]

I forgot to specify the output format 🥲

Well I guess I'll be reading the results off a text file lmao

[potent nest]

Are you using it with the gradle plugin?

[obtuse gale]

Yeah

43% eeeeeeeeeee

[obtuse gale]

I believe checking/parsing (or attempting to parse) non-numbers will turn faster than valid numbers

Cause like, they all go "oop this is not a number, fail fast"

Whereas a valid number it has to go through the whole thing lol

Except for Integer.parseInt just because it generates an exception lmao

[obtuse gale]

Got the results 👀

Guava Ints.tryParse pog

JDK Integer.parseInt is cancer lmao

[potent nest]

Well it also depends on which point the number gets invalid

Also iirc the definition of what is valid differs in guava

Yeah jdk allows + as prefix

[obtuse gale]

The whole generating the stack frame thing hits really hard, will probably post results somewhere tomorrow but it's like 30x slower than Guava failing lmao

I also tried checking with regex pattern to see if it's a valid number altogether, it's actually fairly smooth and consistent, Ints.tryParse is faster for checking even, but it's also hella faster than using Integer.parseInt for sure lmao

[quiet depot]

what's Ints from

[obtuse gale]

Guava

[old wyvern]

@quiet depot reverse proxy should work even if you test with a domain setup in the hosts file right?

[quiet depot]

wym

[old wyvern]

Like if I just add the domain to my local hosts file, it should still work fine with nginx right?

[quiet depot]

I'd imagine so

[old wyvern]

It seems to redirect me to the Welcome to NGINX page for some reason

I cant tell If I set something up wrong

like

nginx -t passes

[quiet depot]

paste ur configerino

[old wyvern]

Yup one sec

https://paste.helpch.at/afilazatas.nginx

[quiet depot]

this isn't a reverse proxy

[old wyvern]

oh?

[quiet depot]

look up the definition of reverse proxy

[cinder flare]

yeah reverse proxy is like capturing the web server of some built in thing and using nginx to do domains for it

i use it for dynmap

[old wyvern]

Hmm

[quiet depot]

doesn't affect your issue though

[cinder flare]

ngl didn't look at his issue

just chimed in cause i actually knew something for once

[quiet depot]

what's ur server's ip

[old wyvern]

132.226.133.141

[cinder flare]

10.0.0.169

[quiet depot]

mind pasting your private key

[cinder flare]

lmaooo

works for me yugi

what's the problem then?

your hosts file setting doesn't redirect or something

[old wyvern]

🥶

[old wyvern]

It directs to the welcome page even with the config for the other domain

[cinder flare]

oh

what's the other domain

[old wyvern]

I havent redirected it to the server yet, just added an entry to my local hosts file

[cinder flare]

and what's it supposed to do?

[quiet depot]

is this hosted on oracle

[old wyvern]

Yes

[quiet depot]

would you be willing to give me ssh access so I can have a look around

[old wyvern]

Serve the webpage? Idk what to answer to that lol

[quiet depot]

don't need your private key lol, that was a joke earlier

[cinder flare]

like what other webpage

[old wyvern]

yea sure piggy xD

[cinder flare]

do you have other sites defined in your nginx conf?

[old wyvern]

send me your public key

yes

[cinder flare]

and you can access them through the ip, but not your url

[old wyvern]

no

IP always redirects to the welcome

[cinder flare]

is the difference here ports?

or subdomain

[old wyvern]

domain

https://repo.vshnv.tech/

^ this is hosted there as well

[cinder flare]

oh

[quiet depot]

i pmed my key

[cinder flare]

i would just do the domain in your nginx conf

doing the hosts thing seems unnecessarily complicated

[old wyvern]

added

[quiet depot]

what's the username

[old wyvern]

ubuntu

[quiet depot]

pm me sudo password ples

[old wyvern]

lemme actually find it xD

dmed

[quiet depot]

k

it works now

[cinder flare]

nice

[old wyvern]

oh

what was wrong?

[quiet depot]

either your location / in the vhost

or your default nginx vhost

i removed both

problem is solved

[old wyvern]

ah

lol

Thanks a lot piggy 💙

[quiet depot]

np

[cinder flare]

awe he gets a blue heart!

[old wyvern]

what? xD

[cinder flare]

you gave him a blue heart

[old wyvern]

uhh

xD

[cinder flare]

https://i.imgur.com/NFuKnFF.png

[old wyvern]

Yea

[cinder flare]

yea

[steel heart]

Lol

[static zealot]

lmao xD

[static zealot]

yo @onyx loom when u got a bit of time and u think this is a good idea, maybe a new placeholder for your changeoutput expansion:
%changeoutput_OPTIONS_INPUT_OUTPUT1_RESULTFOROPUTPUT1_OUTPUT2_RESULTFOROUTPUT2_OUTPUT3_RESULTFOROUTPUT3....ETC...%

[onyx loom]

no ty

[static zealot]

lmao. why?

[onyx loom]

thats gross

[static zealot]

well

no its not

%changeoutput_equals,ignorecase_{some_placeholder}_abc_yes_def_no_ghi_yes%```

what's wrong with this?

[onyx loom]

everything

[static zealot]

k

[hot hull]

Man is at it again with a 1$ increase in his budget

[ocean quartz]

1 by 1 he'll get to an acceptable budget

[static zealot]

nah. someone will do it for those prices. bcz someone did the other one for 6$

[hot hull]

Thoughts on the 3.3k one?

Debating if I should apply

[static zealot]

I think its alright.

[hot hull]

If my math is correct that's 170+ hours tho

[static zealot]

yeah, they do require a minimum of 170 hours. Which is around 42-43 hours per week so its a little over 8 hours a day 5 days a week

its basically a full time job but with the ability to chose your own schedule

[barren solar]

Well the $19/h number might be for more part time contribution

Maybe if you work a bit more than super part time the pay goes up

[hot hull]

Well from what I understood, 19 is minimum

[barren solar]

So maybe the 3300 number is more like 5 hours per day with a wage increase over the 19/h for fewer

[static zealot]

I mean according to them 170 hours per month is minimum

[barren solar]

Ah I didn't see that part

[static zealot]

We offer a salary of at least $3,300 gross on a full-time basis if all requirements are met.

which turns out to around 19$/hr according to them, which means they need a full time job of 40 hours per month

per week*

[hot hull]

Bit extreme, but I see their standpoint

[static zealot]

oh FRosty. yeah

its 40 hours per week

bcz if you think about it, month doesn't have just 4 weeks

so yeah

[hot hull]

Since no way you're going to be productive at best for those 8 hours daily

[static zealot]

yeah. I'm curious how much work they got if they need someone with a full time job.

well I guess they do say per month so you don't have to pull all the 40 hours in 1 week but still.

[hot hull]

Well I'm assuming they have multiple people, since it states they offer a team

[static zealot]

also the title says Full- or part-time so that makes it even more confusing

so I guess if you want, apply for a part time job, and then see what happens

[hot hull]

I mean yea you just gotta meet the hours mark in a month

[static zealot]

just found another problem

their privacy policy

is in dutch only.

[hot hull]

Gotta write up a resume first

[static zealot]

yeah. I Do recommend you read the privacy policy. even if you do it with google translate.

[hot hull]

Yeye

[static zealot]

I have read and understood the Privacy Policy.
but this question is a bit messed up xD

since you're basically asked to understand dutch lmao

also. if I got that right, they only offer paypal. so if you're not a paypal user this will not be for you

but yeah. google translate. will let you look at it lmao. bye now

[quiet depot]

what do you use blitz?

[static zealot]

I still use paypal. I do have the stripe account set up tho

so I can move at any time

[quiet depot]

are you planning on getting banned from paypal?

[static zealot]

nah.

bcz there's services I still use that only accept paypal. so hopefully not

[quiet depot]

you don't need a paypal account to pay with paypal

[static zealot]

oh?

how would you do it then?

[quiet depot]

u just don't sign in

when you pay

simple as that

[onyx loom]

u can "log in" with guest

[quiet depot]

you put your card or whatever in the site

there's no "logging in" kaliber

you can straight up skip it and go straight to paying

[static zealot]

oh. that I didn't know. but yeah I they do support credit card. my problem is that I get the money to pay for them thru paypal.

well actually now I get them thru credit card so I would be completely fine

[onyx loom]

hence the ""
but i believe thats what the button says when ur about to pay

[eternal compass]

Anyone here good with the Internals of MC servers?

When a player asks to connect, how does it block you from letting people bypass the limit by joining multiple people per tick

[hot hull]

Realistically no way you're going to have multiple people joining in a single tick, also assuming it just disallows connection when a player is joining?

[eternal compass]

Hehe that's what you assume

Youtubers make people spam

To get in

And this happened

[hot hull]

Not sure what I'm looking at

[static zealot]

18 out of max of 6 players

I assume he has a personal check in place but it fails bcz there's a lot of people spamming

[sweet cipher]

Why not just have a queue?

[static zealot]

that's a good point

[sweet cipher]

Add people to a queue, then just add the first 6

[static zealot]

^^ instead of directly trying to connect them, add them to a list

and then get the first 6 only

was thinking about something similar

[eternal compass]

Can't really with my setup

[eternal compass]

Nope, vanilla checks

Well now I have a custom check

[static zealot]

wait. so you have the max players amount set directly into server.proprieties or whatever and it still skips it?

[hot hull]

Make it fit a queue kek

[sweet cipher]

How would it not work with your setup?

How are people joining the game?

[eternal compass]

Correct

[eternal compass]

Servers are generated on the fly

[eternal compass]

A multi proxy queue sounds like hell

[hot hull]

Not really

[sweet cipher]

How are the players joining the server?

[eternal compass]

A gui

[eternal compass]

With cloudnet, yes

[sweet cipher]

So how would you not be able to use a queue?

When the player clicks on the gui, add them to a queue, then send them to the server once the queue is full

Or just store a variable of how many people have clicked on the wool

If you want to send them instantly

Because I am pretty sure player joining is async right?

[hot hull]

Why multiproxy tho, why would each game be on a seperate proxy lol

[eternal compass]

It's not, my whole system just supports multiple proxies

[fallen spear]

java is weird

im working on my first plugin and like i used to use java like a few years ago but i dont remember it like this

sent that in the wrong channel

[eternal compass]

Multiple proxies = synchronization hell

[sweet cipher]

Oh ok

[sweet cipher]

What if you have a thread in the server they are trying to join that has the queue of players trying to join, and when the player clicks the item,
it adds them to the queue in the single thread and only teleports them once it verifies they can join? I’m not really sure how to explain it.

[eternal compass]

Hmm okay

Or paper's 1 join per tick thing

[jovial warren]

Mojang: https://imgflip.com/i/5iwr1t

they changed it back to remove entity in the 1.18 experimental snapshots

[surreal quarry]

how fun

[urban sleet]

I'm trying to figure out how this box was made on the hive rules page (https://support.playhive.com/rules/) http://luciandev.me/img/imgwtjsm.png
If it is HTML, which I am guessing it is, can someone show me an example of how it was made?

[obtuse gale]

I wonder what's the reasoning behind that change though

like as a whole, what's wrong with destroy entities?

[surreal quarry]

yea i like that better tbh

[jovial warren]

Mode (in the Minestom Discord) just made a good point about how no other entity packets allow you to do multiple entities at the same time

also, maybe the experimental snapshot is based off of 1.17 rather than 1.17.1

[surreal quarry]

looks just like a div with a background color, then some other stuff inside it

div
  h4
  ul
    li * 6``` or something like that

you can inspect element it and see for yourself

[urban sleet]

👍 Thank you!

[eternal compass]

Anyone know of an open source ShareX uploader I can glance at to steal / use for inspiration for my own

[pallid gale]

huh?

As in sharex itself?

[eternal compass]

No like an upload receiving server

To host images

I just got a domain and want to move everything onto it :p

[pallid gale]

mine just sftp's the image to the vps

[eternal compass]

But that's lame :p
I want a real setup

[pallid gale]

what like a border and shiz?

[eternal compass]

No like one that goes though a web server & such

Maybe even no-width? But that could be annoying idk

(Where you use no width spaces to make the URL)

[pallid gale]

yeah no idea what you want

lol

[eternal compass]

I just want to follow the ShareX uploader spec

On my receiving machine

[thorny phoenix]

Anyone wanna help steer me in the right direction I have Deluxe tags but not Deluxe chat because the server is on 1.17.1 paper We are using EssentialsXchat to do chat formatting how do I get Tags to appear?

[eternal compass]

Sir this is #dev-general

Thank you Cube

[thorny phoenix]

what channel should I use for help then?

[eternal compass]

#general-plugins

Thank you Glare

[thorny phoenix]

sorry

[hot hull]

@static zealot Regarding the PP we talked about yesterday, seems just like some generic random bs lol

[static zealot]

You'll have to link me bcz I don't remember what we talked about xD

Oh the njob

Job*

[hot hull]

Privacy Policy thingy

[static zealot]

Oh right

Yeah idk. Probably xD

[hot hull]

Bruh what

Very rude of Barry to block a vegetable

[quiet depot]

WHO tAggeD ME

[quiet depot]

actually dyno word block I thikn

[hot hull]

What a fucking nerd

[obtuse gale]

Hi@quiet depot

[obtuse gale]

:(

[quiet depot]

hi

[obtuse gale]

:)

[brazen narwhal]

oikn

[obsidian flare]

hello, how can i use this ?
https://prnt.sc/1kx6r2c
Can you give a more descriptive example?

[hot hull]

There's probably examples there as well

[obsidian flare]

there is such an example "nbt_int: CustomModelData:1"

it didn't work when i did this

Can you provide a sample for a diamond sword or other item?

Also, is datapack required for this?

I'm writing this here because the resource on this is limited.

[obsidian flare]

i solved the problem thanks

[half harness]

#spigot-linking and then #guilds

[gentle wolf]

OK

[half harness]

follow the steps in #spigot-linking, it's to verify that you bought the plugin

[forest pecan]

Hi

[distant sun]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/68696643/add-the-javadocs-of-a-module-on-another-module-javadoc 🥲

[steel heart]

should u do that afterEvaluate or no?

[distant sun]

I'm clueless

[fallen spear]

i used to have my own aha, they're relatively easy to make

[eternal compass]

okay 👍

[fallen spear]

like if you use js

[eternal compass]

I'll make mine is TS probably

[fallen spear]

then fastify with the fastify-simple-form addon

it'll allow you to parse the post request that ShareX sends

[eternal compass]

cool

[fallen spear]

after that you return the image link ONLY

[eternal compass]

mhm

[fallen spear]

its what sharex pastes into your clipboard

[steel heart]

bruh lmao

    private Objects() {
        throw new AssertionError("No java.util.Objects instances for you!");
    }

[onyx loom]

[lunar cypress]

PepeLa sun.misc.Unsafe

[steel heart]

🥲

[obtuse gale]

If BigInteger is so good why is there no BigLong

[hot hull]

Because there's BigShlong

[forest pecan]

When you guys swap integers do you do it with a temporary variable or the weird way

Where you add them

Like a=a+b, b=a-b, a=a-b

[fallen spear]

biglongs would be very computationally expensive

[prisma wave]

False

[forest pecan]

False

Lol

[obtuse gale]

Lmao

[forest pecan]

BigInteger already has no limit

It goes until you go out of memory

[fallen spear]

i figure

[forest pecan]

Lol

[obtuse gale]

Why would it be any more expensive lol

[forest pecan]

BigLong actually uses your Grandma’s old 1960 PC’s ram too

Adding to the expense

[obtuse gale]

I think it does but it's absurd

[forest pecan]

Well it’s the String limit

Which is backed by a char array

[fallen spear]

well assuming the big qualifier means x2 then biglong would be 16 bytes

[forest pecan]

No BigLong just wouldn’t make sense at all lol

[prisma wave]

The big qualifier means x infinity

[forest pecan]

BigDick

[obtuse gale]

BigInteger is a class, not a "twice as long" type

[forest pecan]

Hah

[obtuse gale]

If I want a twice as long int, then I'll use a long

[prisma wave]

long long

[ocean quartz]

BigLong is redundant, call it Longer

[obtuse gale]

Lmfao

[forest pecan]

I wish

[prisma wave]

longer long

[ocean quartz]

Longest

[prisma wave]

infinity bytes

[fallen spear]

longest longer long

[ocean quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/long-man-sakeru-gummy-shocked-gif-17662687

[prisma wave]

welcome to the korm fields

[fallen spear]

using bigint sends you to the register

[prisma wave]

you're wrong

[fallen spear]

A fictional register that has unlimited storage and eventually turns into a black whole and consumes everything around it.

sounds like bigint to me

[prisma wave]

that sounds like a Turing machine🤢 🤢 🤢

[fallen spear]

sounds like trollge