dev-general

[barren solar]

Exactly that

[cinder flare]

But like, what does that give you

[barren solar]

Alright let me make my pro con case here

[distant sun]

jk that's stupid

[cinder flare]

You're still running a standalone spigot jar for your test server, no?

[ocean quartz]

I mean if you shade spigot your plug-in wouldn't even pass the first requirements for premium plugins, being less than 4.5MB

[distant sun]

:))

[barren solar]

Pro:

• I can link it as a dependency
• I can immediately know exactly which spigot version it was programmed for without having to go through the troublesome troublesome effort of importing NMS and finding out
  Con:
• It takes a littleeeeeee bit more space???

[distant sun]

do you shade spigot or nms?

[cinder flare]

What does "I can link it as a dependency" mean

[distant sun]

what

[cinder flare]

And reflection exists for NMS sake

[barren solar]

I shade spigot and like I said only for my ghetto free release plugins. My premiums were properly coded 😂

[ocean quartz]

Have you ever heard of Gradle? It'll be a life saver for you

[cinder flare]

Oh wait you don't use a build tool

[distant sun]

any build tool*

[cinder flare]

That makes a lot more sense

[barren solar]

Well I've maintained the tried and true method of including the spigot.jar in my release.jar since I first learned to program at like 12. I link it as a dependency by right clicking the project in eclipse and adding it to the build path.

[cinder flare]

Dear god

An Eclipse user

[distant sun]

poor thing

[barren solar]

I use webstorm for node and web dev and atom for c++ if that makes you happy

[cinder flare]

You use WebStorm but not IntelliJ?

[distant sun]

the ide is your last concern, you should use a build tool - we are not in 1970 anymore - and NEVER shade spigot jar.

[cinder flare]

That is a first

Yeah I think I can start to imagine why you might've been denied lol

[barren solar]

You don't want to see my git repos

Nonono see I didn't do that on the premium ones

[distant sun]

you are right, I don't

[cinder flare]

Your premium plugins use maven/gradle?

[barren solar]

I still used the eclipse build dependence tool, but I didn't include the whole entire spigot jar in the build

[distant sun]

what makes you think that a free plugin shouldn't be done properly, unlike a premium plugin?

[cinder flare]

Dear god

[barren solar]

I make them as tech demos with no intention to be ran on a server

[distant sun]

help yourself and learn gradle or even maven

[cinder flare]

Yeah dude, people not being able to build your plugin itself is a real big problem in it of itself

[distant sun]

demo of what?

[barren solar]

Of tech

Features I think I can implement that others haven't or it's really bad

[distant sun]

pretty sure anyone who looks at your code will stop after they see no build tool

[cinder flare]

Got any git repos of plugins you got denied for?

[barren solar]

As suspicious as it sounds I believe I just deleted them after denial

[cinder flare]

Lmao what

[distant sun]

good now install maven

[cinder flare]

You deleted your entire projects, like from GitHub?

You spent hours, if not days making a premium-worthy plugin

Only to delete it immediately upon being denied

[barren solar]

No I work off projects from my local machine

[cinder flare]

Oh boy

[barren solar]

Probably days, yes

[distant sun]

F

[cinder flare]

So uh, some pro tips

[distant sun]

for how long have you develop?

[cinder flare]

IntelliJ, Maven/Gradle, GitHub

Those three things will get you a long way towards getting a premium plugin accepted

[ocean quartz]

If you check Java's website you might think you are 🥲

[barren solar]

According to my Spigot page my earliest plugin was 2015

[distant sun]

wdym? 🤣 @ocean quartz

[barren solar]

But if you count neopets html profile editor... probably like 2012

[ocean quartz]

In the 70's, have you seen the website, looks so bad

[distant sun]

Right, after 6 years the time for a massive improvement has come, TheTealViper

[distant sun]

ah yes

[ruby dew]

my old spigot account got banned because i made a troll plugin that loops for like a million time every tick
and its literally named memory stealer plugin

[cinder flare]

wow, that uh... sounds so funny

[ruby dew]

and it was back in 2017

[cinder flare]

can't believe you got banned! /s

[barren solar]

I've honestly never looked into the java build process and had no clue the eclipse build tools were bad

I was under the assumption they in some way just automated the maven/gradle stuff I always read about in every tutorial

[cinder flare]

Well, the fact that they're called the Eclipse Build Tools might've been a warning sign

[distant sun]

hater 🤣

[cinder flare]

Considering, ya know, a lot more people use things other than Eclipse to make Java stuff

[barren solar]

Nonono they aren't formally called that

They aren't called anything

It's just a menu in the program

[cinder flare]

They're only in Eclipse 🙂

[distant sun]

^

[barren solar]

The "Java Build Path" sounds pretty standard across IDE's to me

[cinder flare]

Hmm well

You seem to have been misled

[distant sun]

^

make yourself a favor and start using proper tools and technologies

[barren solar]

So you're telling me when I reference an external jar into the modulepath section of the program for the eclipse equivalent to intellisense capabilities, it is bundling the whole entire thing into the final build?

Final space requirements suggest that is 100% not the case

So what is it doing that is so bad

[ocean quartz]

Gradle kts 😌

[cinder flare]

I do not know, but it is a very poor build tool lol

Gradle/Maven do more than just build

They also do dependency management

So they download the exact same versions of your dependencies and you can choose whether or not to shade and stuff

[distant sun]

imagine not having to always select the spigot jar and just type the id and version

[cinder flare]

It makes your plugins reproducible on any computer with a JDK and an internet connection

And they do a bunch of good stuff I presume with the classpath and stuff

You can do relocations, etc.

But the real moral of the story, is that you don't need Eclipse

And I am willing to bet that most people at Spigot are not willing to download Eclipse just to compile your plugin

[barren solar]

What? Why would they be compiling it? You submit the compiled .jar if anything wouldn't they be decompiling it?

Also are we spamming literally everyone at 2 AM (my time) or is this normal and people won't get mad

[cinder flare]

If you don't have notifications turned off for this server, you're doing it wrong

I guess it's not a big thing with your Spigot review, but it's a big thing for anyone looking at your code or trying to improve it

And who knows, it probably does some witchery with the compilation that makes it weird

[ocean quartz]

Pretty sure it's turned off by default after 500 or so members

[distant sun]

even then, who cares 🤣

[ocean quartz]

Also it's 10am lol

[cinder flare]

Let's just say, there's a reason we all hate Eclipse so much lol

[distant sun]

(my time)

[barren solar]

I've always heard that but I thought it was superficial rivalry

[cinder flare]

Oh no

[barren solar]

I didn't know the build process was the disputed part

[cinder flare]

IntelliJ is objectively significantly better

A lot of it is the disputed part

[ocean quartz]

Mostly because eclipse lacks many features and it's ugly af

[barren solar]

IntelliJ wouldn't autocomplete for anything when I tried to use it years ago

[ocean quartz]

Shhh i didn't see that

[cinder flare]

But Eclipse not using standard build tools is one of the biggest

[distant sun]

matt .. you are using atom one dark

[ocean quartz]

Better theme

Best theme

[distant sun]

material oceanic ❤️

[ocean quartz]

Yuck

[cinder flare]

Well that is certainly weird, maybe you didn't have the JDK selected or something

[ocean quartz]

I mean you can use maven/Gradle in eclipse

I used it before

[cinder flare]

True, but how many people are actually doing that lol

Even this guy isn't

[ocean quartz]

Blame yt tutorials

[cinder flare]

yeaaaa

[barren solar]

I'm running off yt tutorials from 2015 so

At least in the (java) build regards

[cinder flare]

Ah, it all makes sense

[old wyvern]

Yt bad?

Google bad?

[cinder flare]

shit, keep going!

Microsoft bad?

Windows bad?!

[old wyvern]

Yess

It all originates finally at turing
T

Turing bad

We need the lambda machine

[cinder flare]

but what about my boy Church

yea yea yea

[old wyvern]

😌

[barren solar]

Okay okay @cinder flare you're gonna like this one. First off the whole repo starts with a single folder everything is in. Then inside the root folder which is a very necessary click not unnecessary at all, I included the holographicdisplays AND spigot jars inside of my .jar. Then to top it off I have 3 util files that aren't used in any way shape or form. Now is that not cool or what.
https://github.com/thetealviper/Spigot_PortalGun

Now do I deserve to be #12 in the top spigot authors or what

[cinder flare]

oh my god I hope you're not

[barren solar]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/authors

[cinder flare]

oh boy

https://i.imgur.com/qwOT4gv.png

sir, I think you missed the 100 character line cutoff

[barren solar]

Eclipse has a cool feature called horizontal scrolling 😎

Only pro devs know about it I guess

[cinder flare]

I don't think you know why there's a 100 character line cutoff lmao

[barren solar]

#12 and higher spigot devs only

[cinder flare]

I don't know if you want to go by that metric lmao

Vk is #1

[barren solar]

Yeah and that bitch churns out plugins and updates as if it's his form of breathing

Nonstop all day every day

[cinder flare]

oh my god you use 8 space indent

that's why your code is so arrowy

[distant sun]

space += 8

[barren solar]

I don't choose 8 space indent. I just ask the magic conch (eclipse) and it does what it wants

[cinder flare]

ohh boy lmao

[barren solar]

If it tickles your fancy for web dev webstorm uses a 2 space indent

[cinder flare]

man you are a character

[barren solar]

Star I just want you to feel reassured knowing I applied for dev role and as long as the application handling staff don't see last 20 mins of chat, I should be accepted given my download count credentials.

I will be assisting people with questions in this server with the credibility of a role most likely 🙂

[cinder flare]

I don't think you realize how little that role does lol

It allows you into #developer-chat

That's it

[barren solar]

Do you have a spigot/git link so I can see what you've made?

[prisma wave]

I've got bad news

[cinder flare]

Well now, I haven't made very much lol

But I do understand a lot more of the theory and contribute to open source projects more than create my own things

[barren solar]

APL buddy I am # 12 on spigot I probably have a lot of pull with those guys who hate me and bully me for "using static incorrectly"

My dad owns microsoft

What are you trying to say here

[pallid gale]

o

[prisma wave]

oh alright sorry forget I said anything

[cinder flare]

The day you post your "using static incorrectly" code on GitHub for all to see is the day we validate your struggles

Or we realize they were right!

[barren solar]

Putting aside the fact I deleted the project (which is questionable blablabla) I feel like my verbally explaining it exactly should foster some credibility

Especially the part where I followed up by saying I include the spigot jar in my releases

That should also build credibility

[cinder flare]

Anyone can verbally explain away something they did wrong with no proof lmao

And that lowered your credibility

[barren solar]

/s

[cinder flare]

Seeing your public code has done that as well

[barren solar]

I'm just so ahead of the curve in terms of tech I can't adhere to conventional standards yunno

Life's rough for a guy like me

[prisma wave]

Sorry to hear that

[barren solar]

Thank you for your condolences APL

It means a lot

[prisma wave]

No problems

What are your thoughts on anarcho capitalism btw?

[ocean quartz]

Lmao

[barren solar]

I'm not asking this as a joke but when you get philosophical what's the difference between being run by a powerful overarching "private agency" and a powerful overarching "centralized state"

[cinder flare]

the sinking ship!!!!

[barren solar]

Wouldn't that just be the same system with a different semantic label

[prisma wave]

that sounds based

However

Well

[barren solar]

It sounds like someone has a hatred against the word government but not the concept of governing

[prisma wave]

If we're getting serious, a centralised state (in theory) gives the people the ability to replace those in power, whereas with a private company there is no such potential

I am not an anarcho capitalist btw

[barren solar]

I didn't suspect you were but regardless I think the conversation would be the same because we're just discussing objective facts (at least at this time)

[prisma wave]

Yes I suppose you're right

[barren solar]

Also the definition I see for centralized state just says that it's a government in which executive and legislative power is concentrated rather than being distributed across multiple lower government agencies

That sounds a lot like a singular "private agency" but with a different name

[cinder flare]

Not to be that guy, but this sure sounds like an #off-topic conversation to me

[barren solar]

You're right I've just grown so attached to this channel the past 30 mins. My bad.

[compact perch]

Seems things are getting a bit off topic here.

Please either stick to the topic or move over to #off-topic

[cinder flare]

hey see that's what I did ^

[ocean quartz]

Thank you

[cinder flare]

but with my own words 🙂

[ocean quartz]

Oh yeah Blitz now can do that command as well, don't think i ever seen him use it 🥲

[static zealot]

I used it 2 or 3 times at the start

Alsoo... Its #dev-general ... The off topic for devopers xD

[ocean quartz]

Was off topic for dev off topic as well though xD

[barren solar]

I feel like 30 minutes of roasting my coding practices warrants a solid 5 messages about good old anarcho capitalism but I'm neither judge nor jury

[prisma wave]

lmao

[barren solar]

I'm just cough the # 12 dev on spigot cough but yeah no authority here 💅

[prisma wave]

🤣

[static zealot]

12 dev? What does that mean?

[barren solar]

I have posted the 12th most resources out of all devs but they just ambiguously rank as far as the site is concerned

I am on the 6th page of most downloaded plugins though so that is actually credible

Unless you saw the source code

Then you'd delete the resource from the site immediately most likely

[hot hull]

And I made FrozenJoin so I'm already superior

[pallid gale]

not even page 1

[barren solar]

I think I was there when you went through a plugin dev stage back in the day

[static zealot]

Lmao. Imagine. Not being top 10

Plugin

[pallid gale]

papi 11th rip

[hot hull]

Pathetic

[pallid gale]

ik

sorry

will do better

[hot hull]

You should be sorry smh

[barren solar]

Funny while you're here

[quiet depot]

i can hear funnycube's apology from the other side of the country

he's very sincere

[static zealot]

It hasn't passed 11 yet?

[barren solar]

That image billboard plugin is free now if you don't know

I forgot the damn name lol

[quiet depot]

bannerboard?

[pallid gale]

i'm well aware

[static zealot]

@pallid gale while you're here

Db update

[barren solar]

Yep that's the one. Ah for sure just thought I'd let ya know in case.

[static zealot]

Please

We know

Glare was working on actuay making it good

XD

[barren solar]

Oh wait funny you're an officially listed contributor to placeholderapi

That is wild

[ocean quartz]

Just noticed nine is on page 5 somehow lmao

[quiet depot]

it's almost as if we maintain it

[barren solar]

I thought you only made shitty lil meme plugins

Nah I knew funny was involved with the dev team, but I didn't think he contributed

Last I talked to him years ago he was just learning how to code

And said he couldn't really get the hang of it

[quiet depot]

he still refuses to learn java

[pallid gale]

done

[quiet depot]

he went the js route

for some unknown reason

[barren solar]

js is better

[ocean quartz]

Sad

[quiet depot]

cube is also proficient in vbscript

[distant sun]

he's a js peasant

[static zealot]

Welp. We just got another national alert and it wasn't even 10 minutes and there's a storm outside

[distant sun]

F

[static zealot]

Trees are already starting to fall

[barren solar]

The clear and open structure of how js handles everything behind the scenes just seems superior

There is no doubt performance wise it suffers

But in graspability and understandability italian chef kiss

[prisma wave]

"clear and open structure"...?

hey can i get another buzzword please

[barren solar]

All instantiations are tied to an easily accessible global variable

It is both clear and open

[ocean quartz]

So clear you don't even know where values come from or what types they are

[prisma wave]

🥴

[barren solar]

You type in a variable and you get every piece of data associated with it right in front of you

prototype vars methods etc

Most things default to a legible json output

It's just sexy man

[ocean quartz]

🥴

[barren solar]

While you guys are deobfuscating NMS from source code sweating profusely in JS I'd just type the object name and boom everything is accessible clearly and openly

[prisma wave]

damn that's crazy

[ocean quartz]

Obfuscation isn't Java's issue
Also JS can be obfuscated as well

[barren solar]

It was just an example to support my point of the "buzzwords" clearly and openly lol

I'm not saying it can't

But even when obfuscated, the obfuscated vars and methods are easily accessible

[quiet depot]

you know what's not accessible

[prisma wave]

deez nuts

[quiet depot]

yes

[ocean quartz]

Anarcho capitalism

[quiet depot]

bm i read 1984

[static zealot]

Mine are. You can come and eat them whenever you want

[barren solar]

In JS if I want to know every method and variable attached to a class I just type the class and boom it spits it out in console, the whole thing.
In java if I want to know every method and variable attached to NMS I have to check source or probably do some reflection stuff which definitely won't be easily maneuvered or pretty.

[quiet depot]

it was a solid eh

[prisma wave]

ive never actually read it

so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[quiet depot]

i wouldn't bother

[barren solar]

Isn't it a highschool standard

[static zealot]

"a sold eh" love it

[prisma wave]

1984 is when bad stuff happens

thats all u need to know

[barren solar]

Tell him about the main characters

Bad stuff happens to a dancer and dude with heavy ass shackles

NOW that's all you need to know

[quiet depot]

wat

[barren solar]

Oh and there are cameras that too

[quiet depot]

i don't remember any dancing in the entire book

unless winston and julia did a little boogie at some point

[barren solar]

Oh I may be misremembering

[quiet depot]

i don't recall that though

[static zealot]

the rain is over. welp. that was short.

[ocean quartz]

I want rain 😦

[static zealot]

well... do you want it to also take a few trees in the way?

bcz this one did

tomorrow it will happen again apparently

[barren solar]

When people post pastebin links you convert it to your own domain for this reason:

"Why? - Some other paste services don't have a dark variant and we're all nocturnal."

I love that

[static zealot]

we love that as well

[lunar cypress]

1984 is when people praise JS

[prisma wave]

literally

[barren solar]

😠

Your guys' custom pastebin clone even has syntax recognition

[quiet depot]

literally just hastebin

[prisma wave]

it's just hastebin lmao

[barren solar]

Oh

Well that's less exciting

[ocean quartz]

Syntax recognition fails a lot

[prisma wave]

the syntax recognition is actually really shit

yeah

[quiet depot]

and guess what

hastebin is js

[prisma wave]

usually ends up calling a java file .properties or something

[barren solar]

You can't blame a foreign API's poor syntax handling on JS

I simply won't stand for this bullying of JS he is a good guy

[ocean quartz]

Masochists man

[prisma wave]

ever heard of

[static zealot]

.coffeescript

[prisma wave]

^

[static zealot]

that's also called a lot

xD

[prisma wave]

deadest language ever

[static zealot]

it doesn't have yaml or other similar text highlighting

so it just calls some random bullshit most of the time

https://paste.helpch.at/umekuqovof.bash

it called bash this time xD

[ocean quartz]

How about the E language

[barren solar]

I mean that's what bash functions look like

It had an idea

Let's get some fortran support up in here

[static zealot]

also you can't select the syntax after yourself. which would be nice

[ocean quartz]

I like Luck's paste

You can select the language manually

[barren solar]

I was going to add (when I was under the assumption it was custom) that it is very unnerving that I can't choose which language it thinks it is

But all you did was steal the hard work from hastebin

[prisma wave]

fortran fans vs lisp enjoyers

[quiet depot]

steal

yes

[prisma wave]

when you steal the open source project

[static zealot]

time to steal luck's paste bin?

[quiet depot]

running software which is meant to be self hosted is stealing

[barren solar]

Those poor poor souls whose work was stolen from their open source repo

Do you know how long they probably worked to intentionally make yml formatting come out as bash

They worked hard on this API and you pay them nothing

[static zealot]

they didn't ask for anything tho is this sarcasm that I can't understand or are you serious?

[barren solar]

I'm being sarcastic 😂 I accused you of stealing open source and said they worked hard to make it malfunction lol

[static zealot]

yeah. I think you also need to put a /s at the end of your sarcastic takes. bcz you, just like me, are bad at making sarcastic stuff look sarcastic.

[barren solar]

Is accusing people of stealing open source software not a clear signal

I refuse to use tone indicators unironically

What is this 1984

[prisma wave]

hello based department?

[static zealot]

you would be surprised to find out people like that exist.

[jovial warren]

Hey, @ocean quartz, you know a decent amount about GUIs. I'm just trying to improve the inventory type thing in Krypton to make it a registry, and I was thinking of adding rows and columns properties for each inventory type. However, most inventories don't really have a defined number of rows and columns in a grid pattern, so what should I do? should I leave the rows and columns undefined for those inventories? should I just scrap the rows and columns properties altogether?

[quiet depot]

take a geez at sponge

[jovial warren]

or I could make a new inventory type subclass called GridInventoryType that has the rows and columns properties

[quiet depot]

not actually a fan of sponge's inventory api but iirc they have something for rows & columns

[static zealot]

I love geezing a sponge !

[barren solar]

Can't you just transform all the inventory id ints into your own row and column system

[static zealot]

:ugh:

I need to make that an emote. damn. how did I not think about that?

[barren solar]

Universally all invs use a 1d int array as id's so why not treat that as your foundation so you have repeatable row and column allotment

If I'm out of line and completely wrong and you @ 'd Matt (asking only for his opinion) sorry lol

I'm just here

Existing

[static zealot]

u finally said something relatable. damn

[sly sonnet]

:Kappa:

ok no nitro emojis

[static zealot]

ugh. u should be able to use them since you boosted

[sly sonnet]

yeah, thats the thing

oh

kappa-2 works

[ocean quartz]

I think leaving it as just slots might be better as it's how it's basically implemented vanilla and would be pretty hard to adapt it, since it's Kotlin you can easily provide extension functions for rows/columns as an util for if people want to use it

[jovial warren]

yeah probably a decent idea

[ocean quartz]

@prisma wave

[prisma wave]

thank you my dear

lovely

[lunar cypress]

ew

[normal talon]

wut is dat

[ocean quartz]

Font ligatures

[normal talon]

I found this in my files

is this any good

[half harness]

o it seems very old

[normal talon]

yea 1.10.2

idk when that came out

[half harness]

2016

[normal talon]

oh lol

yea so should I delete it ?

[forest pecan]

It literally only give examples lol

[obtuse gale]

Anybody know if i can make a react-bootstrap app auto update in intellij?

[static zealot]

no

no I Don't know. that's what I mean.

[ocean quartz]

TIL that Lombok is an island right next to Java lol

[prisma wave]

nuke it

isn't kotlin also a place in russia?

[normal talon]

yea an island

[ocean quartz]

An island in the north ish of russia, close to Finland

[prisma wave]

i see what they did there

[ocean quartz]

They posted a 20 minutes video on yt about the story of Kotlin and Andrey (😩) was mentioning that it was called "Jet" before, but it was already copyrighted so they went with Java's idea and named it after an island

[normal talon]

you can copyright a island name lol

[static zealot]

well. I will name the language I work on Blaagasgsagasgl. And then name my private island after the language.

[rough socket]

someone pong me here?

[half harness]

#dev-general message

[ocean quartz]

$4 lol

[half harness]

also gotta use HTLM

i don't get why people say like "make a plugin in java" or "website in css and html" when in the end it (at least with plugins, idk about websites) it won't really matter if you use java or kotlin

plus can you even make a functioning website with only css and html 🤔

[forest pecan]

I mean sure but it won’t be responsive lol

Like all the buttons won’t do anything

[half harness]

ah

does it need JS?

[forest pecan]

Yeah the buttons requires JS

To run a specific method or something

[ocean quartz]

Not at all lol

You can make a fully functional website with just html and css

[half harness]

o

[golden sun]

Having to do HTML in email's is a fucking nightmare

[ocean quartz]

Ayy looking nice 😌

[prisma wave]

😌

[ocean quartz]

Was suffering through a lot of js to make that but then realized you can easily do it through css lol

[distant sun]

nice

[gusty fulcrum]

anyone know why its not possible to add a enchant glow to player heads in 1.17+ ?

[distant sun]

you never could

[gusty fulcrum]

Okay, why is that ?

[distant sun]

yes

[gusty fulcrum]

0.0

[ocean quartz]

Because Mojang didn't feel like it i guess

[distant sun]

although it would most likely look bad

[gusty fulcrum]

okay thank you

[humble silo]

What is that? It looks super cool!

Is it a template or something you can buy?

[ocean quartz]

A wiki I am building, it's open source

[humble silo]

Oh cool, can i see the github?

Is it in react or smth?

vue

[ocean quartz]

React and Ktor https://github.com/TriumphTeam/website

[humble silo]

oh i love typescript

[ocean quartz]

i don't

[humble silo]

would you rather use js? lol

[ocean quartz]

Well it's better than JS, but still horrible

[humble silo]

would you want to use kotlin then? Is that a pain in react?

[ocean quartz]

I'd rather use Kotlin react, but it was a bit buggy so had to drop it 😩

[humble silo]

ah ok, ya ive heard that from a few people before

still, ts is better than nothing(js)

[distant sun]

he likes to suffer

[ocean quartz]

i'm not using js

[jovial warren]

imagine knowing how to design a website in the first place though

[ocean quartz]

You act like i know 🥲

[jovial warren]

well you're better than I am

you actually have a working website lol

[ocean quartz]

Literally just copying parts of websites I like the design of and putting it all together 🥲

[jovial warren]

I thought that might've been the case lol

[prisma wave]

Design wise it looks very similar to gitbook

[distant sun]

if I have a line that goes over that 100 chars limit or whatever it is called, is there any way I can stop iij from reformatting it when I use ctrl alt l?
Edit https://stackoverflow.com/a/19492318/11496439

[ocean quartz]

Yeah mostly inspiration from gitbook

[barren solar]

I went on leetcode for the first time right now and solved the daily problem. I'm looking at the submission chart and I'm seeing numerous solutions where the code is just "return true;". I'm assuming the site makes randomized test cases every check so they just brute force submitted until all test cases happened to be true? Why does the site allow for a solution that is "return true;" or am I confused and it's reasonable

[humble silo]

Anyone else having issues with the gradle kotlin plugin version 1.5.21? 1.5.10 Works just fine but im getting some super weird errors on the newer version

[ocean quartz]

Which errrors?

Works fine for me

[old wyvern]

Classic kotlin

[old wyvern]

Anything that works, goes

[humble silo]

effectively this https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/KT-42241

Ill try the new one again and give you the exact thing

Could not create task ':base:compileTestKotlin'.
> Could not create task of type 'KotlinCompile'.
   > Could not create an instance of type org.jetbrains.kotlin.gradle.tasks.KotlinJavaToolchainProvider.
      > Could not generate a decorated class for type KotlinJavaToolchainProvider.
         > Cannot have abstract method KotlinJavaToolchain.getJdk().

Weird huh

[barren solar]

But it completely alters the stats page for performance lol how tf does my legit solution compete with Johnny's brute force a billion times submission of "return true;" 😂

[old wyvern]

The testcases are the same across multiple submissions

[humble silo]

I dont need the new version but its just kinda weird... are you using the kotlin dsl?

[old wyvern]

Which problem is it @barren solar ?

Return true just always seems to work

[barren solar]

https://leetcode.com/explore/challenge/card/august-leetcoding-challenge-2021/613/week-1-august-1st-august-7th/3870/

[old wyvern]

lol

[ocean quartz]

Which IJ version are you on?

[old wyvern]

First attempt

[humble silo]

2021.1 ultimate

though idk if thats the issue

Ill try updating

[ocean quartz]

Try updating

[barren solar]

How tf did they end up with 46 test cases all returning true

[old wyvern]

🤷

Maybe the problem is a trick question

[barren solar]

Not possible because I can think of array setups where Lee wins and Alex doesn't

They must have literally by divine intervention of god himself gotten 46 test cases where every single one is true

Absolutely ridiculous

[old wyvern]

Give me the example

Thing is

Alex goes first

he can always choose the highest number

[barren solar]

[1,200,1,1]

Lee wins

[old wyvern]

No

[barren solar]

[2,200,1,1] sorry there

[old wyvern]

Same result

[2,200,1,1]

[2, 200, 1] - Alex 1

[200, 1] - Lee 2

[1] - Alex 201

[] Lee- 3

[barren solar]

Alex wouldn't take 1 in the first step what

Alex would take 2

[old wyvern]

Why wouldnt he?

Nothing suggests he couldnt do that

They play "Optimally"

[barren solar]

He has to make the most optimal decision

[old wyvern]

Not optimal in the same round

Just overall

[barren solar]

Well wait does it mean optimally relative to the full game or optimally relative to each turn

I feel like that's a very important distinction

[old wyvern]

Full game id assume

It only mentions they play Optimally

So it wouldnt be per round

Its a biased game, whoever goes first wins

[barren solar]

That is ridiculous but far more likely than them intending optimally per turn and ending up with 46 true cases

[old wyvern]

In this case

Alex

[humble silo]

Omg this is so cool

Im loving that

[ocean quartz]

😌

[old wyvern]

😮

[frail glade]

Hot.

[humble silo]

Oh gosh, you have dark reader 🤢

It makes things look so bad!

[old wyvern]

Meh, better than burning your eyes out

[humble silo]

lol barely, though stackoverflow light theme is pretty disgusting

[ocean quartz]

I have it reversed, it's off by default, then i choose which pages to turn it on on

[old wyvern]

Now before glare screams at me, matt could you do me a favour?

[humble silo]

well thats ok ig, stackoverflow for example

lol

[ocean quartz]

Sure, what's up? ;o

[ocean quartz]

StackOverflow has dark theme xD

[old wyvern]

I have the next update for the lib and gradle plugin ready on the compile-time-resolution branch, could you please merge and publish it? 🥲

I have a flight in a bit

[obtuse gale]

Fancy

[old wyvern]

🥲

[humble silo]

I looked that up and didnt find anything, how do you get to it?!

[old wyvern]

Might wanna bump the versions tho

1.2.5 for lib and 1.3.0 for gradle plugin I think

[frail glade]

So I change it to 1.2.5 in my gradle props?

[ocean quartz]

Sure thing

[old wyvern]

No I made it a bit easier glare

You can now do

implementation slimjar("1.2.5")

[frail glade]

Oh hot.

[ocean quartz]

Click on your profile, go to edit -> preferences

[old wyvern]

The props file now manages what repo to implicitly add and if compile time resolution should be used

https://github.com/slimjar/slimjar/blob/feature/compile-time-resolution/gradle-plugin/src/main/kotlin/io/github/slimjar/func/Declarations.kt#L36

[frail glade]

Bravo.

[ocean quartz]

Just to double check before I merge, is this right Yugi? https://github.com/slimjar/slimjar/pull/49

[humble silo]

found it! Idk why i wasnt able to find that before

[old wyvern]

yup

oh wait the keys might be diff for the lib now

ill dm you my key

I had changed repo to a new vps a month ago

[ocean quartz]

Oh yeah i didn't think about the lib, i never published that one xD

[old wyvern]

lol

[humble silo]

@ocean quartz Still getting the same error 😦 guess im just gonna have to wait for it to be fixed

[ocean quartz]

Is your project OS by any chance? I could try opening it on mine and see what happens

[humble silo]

not the current one im working on, but ill try on another that is, one second

[frail glade]

Also Matt don't forget to make a new Github release for it too pls.

[humble silo]

Great it works in the open source project...

doesnt really matter anyways

ig

[ocean quartz]

Published, though I can't draft a new release on GH, that has to be @old wyvern

[frail glade]

All good

[old wyvern]

You have permission as well I think matt

You have org owner role as well

[ocean quartz]

I think i had a similar issue before, it was because i had my gradle wrong, don't remember what

Oh wait yeah i can nvm

[frail glade]

Bruh.

[ocean quartz]

Released

Did I mess up? Oh shit

[old wyvern]

https://repo.vshnv.tech/releases/io/github/slimjar/slimjar/1.2.5

Nah it seems to be on there

[frail glade]

Yeah I see it in the repo.

Sec.

[old wyvern]

Maybe it didnt add the repo

🤦‍♂️

Issue in gradle plugin I guess

God dammit

You can temp try adding my repo manually glare

I'll fix it once I reach home

[frail glade]

Yup that was it.

[ocean quartz]

It should though

[old wyvern]

🤷

[onyx loom]

gradle bad

[old wyvern]

gradle is a absolute mystery

[ocean quartz]

We need to make our own build tool, written in Haskell!

[old wyvern]

Yes!!

Thats actually an interesting project

[ocean quartz]

It really would

God please a better API

[onyx loom]

triumph build tool

[prisma wave]

stop

[ocean quartz]

Tradle

[prisma wave]

stop the monopoly

[onyx loom]

no!

[frail glade]

Looks pretty solid.

Resolutions: https://paste.helpch.at/bitohuxiga.json
Base: https://paste.helpch.at/asevuhupom.json

[steel heart]

oo delicious

[obtuse gale]

I'm trying to add Particles to Arrows, does anyone know a tutorial or anything?

[barren solar]

This one seems very solid. It should be noted they choose to use packets directly when you don't have to do that and there is a more spigot friendly way of doing it with the playEffect function. But yeah this should work fine assuming their packet code specifically isn't outdated (post is a bit old)
https://bukkit.org/threads/tutorial-particle-effects-for-arrows.251835/

[steel heart]

ok

[ocean quartz]

We should rewrite terrible plugin but instead just a cursed plugin, where it actually is fully functional but the code is as cursed as it gets, like for example

[steel heart]

TerriblePlugin does contain good code snippets occasionally

[prisma wave]

does it though

does it really

[steel heart]

you monad

[barren solar]

Funny story. Idk if you guys have ever heard of Wynncraft but they have this bank storage system. Back in the day they had one of the GUI buttons be "search" but when you "searched" it just literally did nothing or the results made 0 sense. So I made a free publicly available open source clone of their plugin with a properly functioning search feature. After that, instead of clapping back with their own functioning search, they just removed the GUI button entirely 😂
Sauce: https://imgur.com/GKDbWLU.png

[steel heart]

Lmao

[forest pecan]

That server is so good lol

[barren solar]

It is the only RPG server I can stand playing on. The only downfall is their garbage garbage map system but now they have the light beams to indicate a compass guidance system.

[ocean quartz]

Not as good as #mc-server-general

[forest pecan]

Dead

🤡

[forest pecan]

Should Executors be stored in some sort of provider class?

And be reused

[quiet depot]

really depends on the use case

[forest pecan]

Hm ok

It seems actually in my case im using different types of executors and i dont have to store them in a provider for now at least

[quiet depot]

wym providers

guice providers?

just store it as a field

[forest pecan]

Nah like a singleton

[quiet depot]

well it depends on the use case

generally i store them as a constant

but if you needed to shut the executor down at runtime, then you’d want a more mutable solution (or di, any method which ultimately results in a fresh executor)

[forest pecan]

Ic

[hot hull]

I love this guy saying no mods on every showcase

[barren solar]

They factually function without mods

I think it's pretty cool to have made what was mod-only functionality before I made it

[obtuse gale]

Plugins are server sided mods :d

[barren solar]

Common mc culture would consider "mod" to imply modded client

[hot hull]

Nah I mean it's basic shit pog

Still cool, but basic

[barren solar]

The portal used some fancy linear algebra and spacial matrix transformations

I would definitely claim that is not basic

[hot hull]

bAsIc

[barren solar]

Back when I made the quarry plugin, I was one of the first to implement additional custom blocks with "custom" hit boxes

At least that I knew of

[hot hull]

Show source, I'm in a flamming kind of mood

[barren solar]

It's public source but I don't want to get roasted by someone with bad intent

[hot hull]

Nah I mean constructive criticism

[barren solar]

I like getting roasted for fun but I feel like you're malicious

[obtuse gale]

Nah Frosty's cool

get it?

[hot hull]

Brb, work 🤡

[obtuse gale]

Frosty, cool

I'm such a comedian

I should be hired by AdultSwim

[barren solar]

[as]

[hot hull]

The biggest I know

[distant sun]

So I got this laptop from work and when I try to connect my monitor through a HDMI cable, the image quality of the monitor is kinda poor, like 720p, any way to fix this?

🖕 @obtuse gale

[obtuse gale]

Lmao

[static zealot]

don't get a second monitor if you're not cool like me smh.

[distant sun]

I don't think the specs are the problem tbh

And no, I'm not flexing something that I don't even own.

[cinder flare]

did you set the resolution right?

in nvidia control panel

[distant sun]

yup it is working now

[static zealot]

[distant sun]

ty star

[barren solar]

Have you seen the neural network implementation that makes it legitimately look real
Sauce: https://youtu.be/P1IcaBn3ej0?t=10

[static zealot]

I yes. Boss. Give me laptop. I Will do a lot of work. I will watch GTA V videos.

[distant sun]

idk I just needed a hd video

[static zealot]

=joke

[compact perch]

Hey son,

So, I heard this pun about cows, but it’s kinda offensive so I won’t say it. I don’t want there to be any beef between us.

[abstract kraken]

I'm trying to backup Nexus so i can update the docker container, in the documentation it says there should be a folder named sonatype-work but it's nowhere to be found. I found that there are blob storages which are apparently used by some repositories in the Container. Can i just backup those and replace the default blob storage in the new docker container or am i missing something?

[oak coyote]

Omg stop flexing 🙄😂

[distant sun]

wasn't there a way to start minecraft using a cli, without a gui?

not with the default client

[steel heart]

java -jar

Or no?

[obtuse gale]

nogui at the end

[cunning oriole]

someone check my request xd

[ocean quartz]

Done I have checked it

[cunning oriole]

oof

[steel heart]

[hot hull]

@cunning oriole Mate, 3$ doesn't even grant you the perk of opening an IDE, let alone fixing a plugin

[cunning oriole]

fixing one bug bruh

[hot hull]

Let's say it's a 5min fix, good, what if it's spaghetti code and you spend an hour looking for that damn bug, what a waste amirite

[sly sonnet]

20$/h and imma do it

[ocean quartz]

Which requires tons of debugging, it's already hard on your plugin, can you imagine other people's plugins?

[hot hull]

Let's say you're building a house, a wooden 30x30, and a mansion 100x100. It's just one house so the price is the same right?

[cunning oriole]

you can't judge the code without even looking at it

[sly sonnet]

yes u can

@prisma wave right?

[prisma wave]

uh

[hot hull]

Well it's a spigot plugin I'm guessing, so the chances are 90% that the code is utter dogshit

If not higher

[quiet depot]

nice upgrade @distant sun

[sly sonnet]

[quiet depot]

can you use it for non work stuff?

[static zealot]

he clearly already does xD

GTA V RTX moments. that's clearly for work

[quiet depot]

idk

[ocean quartz]

You can, if it's not my code, it's shit, if it's my code it's also shit

[quiet depot]

maybe he was told to test whether the laptop could watch youtube videos and run discord

[static zealot]

nothing unusual. we all have to watch GTA V moments for work

[static zealot]

oh. Ic. my bad. xD

[sly sonnet]

swf content yknow

[quiet depot]

no

i don't know

[static zealot]

yeah me neither

[sly sonnet]

ah shit, sfw*

[normal talon]

you have to watch videos poor baby's

I just need to show up 😎

[quiet depot]

ugh the fucking javadocs changed again

and docdex is broke

why do they keep changing the damn html structure

[normal talon]

only if the javadocs were as good as the kotlin docs 😦

[prisma wave]

[quiet depot]

kotlin docs are even worse iirc

[prisma wave]

depends how you judge it

they look better

[quiet depot]

yeah

[normal talon]

yea that is what I mean

[quiet depot]

but iirc they have different formats

[normal talon]

it is more readable I guess

[quiet depot]

not for a machine

[static zealot]

all piggy can think about is DocDex. but problem is he doesn't even update it

[quiet depot]

i don't have time oof

and it updates itself anyway

[static zealot]

[quiet depot]

technological singularity and all that

[static zealot]

xD

[normal talon]

amazong

[sly sonnet]

would it be possible to make a spigot plugin that auto updates to new major versions?

[static zealot]

yes

[sly sonnet]

like it changes its code by itself etc

[oak coyote]

You can make it download a new jar

[normal talon]

Yea, build a robot that can do all that for u

[static zealot]

I swear to got SkinRestorer or some other plugin used to do that. maybe still does

[quiet depot]

when i get gpt-3 access, it'll be the new docdex

[distant sun]

Yeah ..

[normal talon]

wew they hit 5+mill downloads on spigot

[quiet depot]

who

[prisma wave]

they

[distant sun]

@static zealot I was using that video for testing smh

[quiet depot]

them

the party

literally 1984

[static zealot]

I was joking. smh

[distant sun]

Stoopid

[static zealot]

SkinRestorer

and yes @sly sonnet seems like skin restorer still has an auto updater

according to the config files from github. to lazy to go thru the code

ah yes

here @sly sonnet take a look: https://github.com/SkinsRestorer/SkinsRestorerX/tree/main/src/main/java/net/skinsrestorer/bukkit/utils

[sly sonnet]

[oak coyote]

Yummy,

import lombok.Getter;

[prisma wave]

🥴

[sly sonnet]

no u didnt understand me

thats an auto updater

[static zealot]

yummy yummy indeed

[sly sonnet]

i meant that the plugin ports itself to a new version

like 1.16.5 -> 1.17.1

[static zealot]

what

why?

[sly sonnet]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[distant sun]

an auto updater usually reffers to checking if there's a new version avilable for download

[static zealot]

well not this one.

this one also updates the plugin

bcz they're cool

[distant sun]

Ew

[potent nest]

updating plugins automatically is very bad idea

[distant sun]

^

[normal talon]

yea just have fun coding 🙂

[stuck harbor]

legit why would u even

checking for updates? thats fine with me

but automatically downloading them is worse than satan

[distant sun]

Reminds me of CMI lib

[jovial warren]

can we also just talk about how this guy obviously doesn't know what modules are

because you definitely need to shade XSeries and PaperLib in to a Bungee plugin

[static zealot]

xD

[forest pecan]

How many badges do you need

Lol

[distant sun]

yes

[forest pecan]

The worst part is they are all inconsistent

[static zealot]

aha aha aha yeah yeah aha yeah aha

[onyx loom]

the more the merrier

[ocean quartz]

Inconsistency is key

[hot hull]

Only one you need

[onyx loom]

hold up, 5.2m downloads wtf 😳

[static zealot]

bot downloads. they're aware. they used to make announcements about that and even take down the download button I Think or something like that sometimes.

they would get 10-100k downloads in minutes

[fallen spear]

i feel like this project is one of those that work fine when developing but goes to shit after publishing

[steel heart]

*my every plugin*

[hot hull]

See it's user error that fucks you most of the time

[jovial warren]

is it just me or does pretty much every large bug in software seem to always be fixable in under 20 lines of diff

[distant sun]

Since when you can't have code blocks in channel topics?

[jovial warren]

what?

I swear Discord is very strict about that sort of thing

any text box outside of the text box you use to chat is quite restrictive

[distant sun]

I have a channel where I use diff for changelog and I wanted to put the format on the topic so everyone knows what's going on

[jovial warren]

I guess you could just pin it instead

[distant sun]

yeah I did =/

[half harness]

Which one is better:

• CoroutineScope(Dispatchers.IO).launch {} (in a plugin)

Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskAsynchronously(plugin, Runnable { runBlocking {

}})

[prisma wave]

🥴

[half harness]

since I want to be sure that it won't run on the main thread

[prisma wave]

neither are great

use the Default dispatcher unless you need IO

[half harness]

well

im reading from files

so

is that considered io

[prisma wave]

that is the definition of IO

so yes

uh

[half harness]

uhhhh

https://i.imgur.com/nltzgQK.png

🥴

|| specifically im reading world region files ||

[obtuse gale]

you definitely don't want to do that async, you might want to copy them sync to another directory first as some sort of snapshot, then read async from that

[half harness]

hmm

should I unload the world first? or is that not required

[obtuse gale]

what the fuck are you trying to do

if you can unload the world, yes

[half harness]

getting a list of chunks from a world, its harder than i thought 😩 unless im missing something

all generated chunks

not just loaded ones

[obtuse gale]

see today's NASA astronomy picture of the day

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2108/NGC6726_6723_2panel1100.jpg

[onyx loom]

thanks 🙂

[half harness]

[prisma wave]

um

i need help

[compact perch]

There is no time to wait! Ask your question @prisma wave!

[prisma wave]

i have a question

[compact perch]

There is no time to wait! Ask your question @prisma wave!

[prisma wave]

well

so

uh

 @Override
    public byte @NotNull [] toPrimitive(@NotNull List<T> complex, @NotNull PersistentDataAdapterContext context) {
        //noinspection UnstableApiUsage
        var out = ByteStreams.newDataOutput();
        out.writeInt(complex.size());
        for (T t : complex) {
            out.write(singleType.toPrimitive(t, context));
        }
        return out.toByteArray();
    }
``` i've got this

but then

[obtuse gale]

sir

sir this is #dev-general

[prisma wave]

i do not care

answer my question

https://img.bristermitten.me/screen_2021-08-06_16-37-00_rKjV.png

[obtuse gale]

i do

no

[prisma wave]

how would i fill this in

because

[obtuse gale]

NOT configuration help

[prisma wave]

well

[obtuse gale]

fuck off

[prisma wave]

it's dynamic

shut it

[obtuse gale]

i don't care

[prisma wave]

oh

wait

hold up

[obtuse gale]

no

[prisma wave]

i can just assume that each thingy is the same length and divide by length

genius

absolutely genius

[obtuse gale]

is that really a good idea?

does T encode to a fixed size byte array?

[prisma wave]

it had better

or there will be trouble

but

on a more serious note i have no idea on any other way to do it

[obtuse gale]

might wanna store something like PersistentDataType<PersistentDataContainer, T> or smth instead

kinda like in json an array of objects

well, an

[prisma wave]

whatttt

[obtuse gale]

and then

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[prisma wave]

how would i do that

look

i dont need this to be future proof or anything

[obtuse gale]

okay do whatever lol

[prisma wave]

all i want is to take my Point data type and store a List<Point>

[half harness]

well
correction: im not reading the region files, I'm reading the region file names

since the region file names has the region locations

and then i get the chunk locations from the region locations

[obtuse gale]

that does not imply that all chunks in the region have been generated

[half harness]

i know

but i don't know how to figure out if the chunk has been generated 😩

ok discord send my message plz

what

[prisma wave]

on an unrelated note was it you that posted the article about the hashmap infinite loop thread safety thing

[half harness]

but i don't know how to figure out if the chunk has been generated 😩

there we go

[prisma wave]

if so please provide me with the url

[obtuse gale]

it was me yes

in #developer-chat

[half harness]

🥺 im still not in it xD

[prisma wave]

thank you so much

[half harness]

do u think im good enough to apply for developer role

[obtuse gale]

go for it, you lose nothing by applying

[prisma wave]

you lose everything by applying

OH CRIKEY

dont worry

crisis averted

i realised there was a big edge case

however

i also realised that i do not care

[obtuse gale]

lmao

[half harness]

https://i.imgur.com/AReP2ZV.png i don't think this is a good sign 🥲

[static zealot]

that's perfectly fine

nothing wrong there

[forest pecan]

Yeah

[steel heart]

Mission successful, I a Java guy was converted into Kotlin in SpigotMC :0

[forest pecan]

I thought you were a Kotlin Karen

🥴

[steel heart]

I lowkey use kotlin

But this commission pulled me back to Java

[forest pecan]

🤭

🥜

[prisma wave]

Java 16 | 17 > kotlin

No joke

No circlejerking

Just facts

[forest pecan]

Lombok users when they see record

🤬

[prisma wave]

Lombok users in hell

[hot hull]

man increased his budget for how much?

[prisma wave]

Holy shit $3 more

That's crazy

[steel heart]

We should make a notorious list of known devs who use Lombok

[forest pecan]

Alright

Hertere

[steel heart]

imaginedev

[forest pecan]

ImagineDev

[steel heart]

Jochyoua

[forest pecan]

Lmfao

[steel heart]

Rack

[forest pecan]

Auxilor

[steel heart]

Auxilor

[forest pecan]

Lol

[steel heart]

Yeah lol

Unsure if repooper does it

[forest pecan]

Md_5

lol

[steel heart]

How did I miss that one lul

[ocean quartz]

notorious

Jk jk

[forest pecan]

Yeah he bad

He irrevelant

🤡

/s

But honestly imagine using Lombok inside an API

[steel heart]

Myes encapsulation with Lombok

Best thing ever heard

[forest pecan]

Lol

[steel heart]

At least kotlin provides agility for properties

And well flexibility

[ocean quartz]

Can't wait for this feature

private val list = mutableListOf<String>()
  public get(): List<String>

[steel heart]

Ye

[prisma wave]

Meh

I feel like that feature is literally only useful in 1 scenario

[steel heart]

List<Yugi | Mitten>

Very pog feature

[prisma wave]

ADTs 😌

Another feature basically stolen from certain other languages but still good

[woven plaza]

I was rejected from dev team because I do not use lombok

lol

[frail glade]

They're better off without you.

[woven plaza]

second argument was

I do not make spaces

between code

[winter iron]

I use 5 space tabs

🙂

[woven plaza]

btw

kotlin>java

[static zealot]

xD

is this Sx disguised?

[onyx loom]

wise words

[woven plaza]

but

[prisma wave]

Hello sxtanna

[woven plaza]

idk how does it look in higher java versions

used 8 and 11