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static zealot Aug 3, 2021, 1:27 PM

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😌

steel heart Aug 3, 2021, 1:27 PM

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Elara Docs 😌😌

onyx loom Aug 3, 2021, 1:27 PM

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ah yes, i sure do love non-existent docs

normal talon Aug 3, 2021, 1:27 PM

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spigot docs are the same headache as java

steel heart Aug 3, 2021, 1:27 PM

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Java good

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 1:28 PM

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Elara docs exist a bit

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They're just outdated

onyx loom Aug 3, 2021, 1:29 PM

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github readme doesnt count

static zealot Aug 3, 2021, 1:29 PM

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lmao

normal talon Aug 3, 2021, 1:29 PM

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-_-

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the audacity

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 1:31 PM

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why not

normal talon Aug 3, 2021, 1:31 PM

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if (x in 1..y+1) {

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what are those points

onyx loom Aug 3, 2021, 1:31 PM

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IntRange

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 1:31 PM

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Range operator

onyx loom Aug 3, 2021, 1:31 PM

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so basically its a collection of ints, starting from 1 to y+1

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 1:32 PM

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1..10 = 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10

stuck harbor Aug 3, 2021, 1:32 PM

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damn thats too sensible

normal talon Aug 3, 2021, 1:32 PM

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ooh so it adds up

stuck harbor Aug 3, 2021, 1:32 PM

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not verbose enough 💢

normal talon Aug 3, 2021, 1:32 PM

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lets say x is 20

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does it fit in then ?

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wait no

onyx loom Aug 3, 2021, 1:32 PM

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well what is y

normal talon Aug 3, 2021, 1:32 PM

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9

onyx loom Aug 3, 2021, 1:32 PM

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then no

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 1:33 PM

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I know another language with .. syntax

onyx loom Aug 3, 2021, 1:33 PM

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oh really? thats cool

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 1:33 PM

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Yep

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It is

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Thanks for showing interest

onyx loom Aug 3, 2021, 1:34 PM

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your welcome :)

static zealot Aug 3, 2021, 1:34 PM

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smh. I love potatoes

normal talon Aug 3, 2021, 1:35 PM

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same

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:3

onyx loom Aug 3, 2021, 1:39 PM

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static zealot smh. I love potatoes

tf is wrong with u

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thanks for review 🌚

static zealot Aug 3, 2021, 1:39 PM

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onyx loom tf is wrong with u

huh? potatoes are good

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and yw

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oh boy. I finally am done with DeluxeTags (for now) and PRed my DeluxeMenus work. Took me a while xD

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I really am the best at procrastinating

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 2:02 PM

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Almost done fixing Kotlin 🥺

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This lib uses regex so I've had to add a few weird exceptions 😩

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 2:08 PM

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https://highlightjs.org/ are you using this?

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 2:13 PM

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Using PrismJs

plush sapphire Aug 3, 2021, 2:13 PM

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#871306913390948362 must be Minecraft?

remote goblet Aug 3, 2021, 2:14 PM

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no

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 2:14 PM

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No

plush sapphire Aug 3, 2021, 2:14 PM

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Ok, thx

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 2:18 PM

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prisma wave https://highlightjs.org/ are you using this?

Have you used that one before?

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 2:18 PM

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no

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 2:18 PM

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From examples I found it doesn't highlight Kotlin well either

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 2:18 PM

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just curious cuz i think that's what discord uses

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 2:18 PM

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Hmm

distant sun Aug 3, 2021, 2:25 PM

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https://github.com/discord/highlight.js/blob/master/src/languages/kotlin.js

GitHub

highlight.js/kotlin.js at master · discord/highlight.js

Javascript syntax highlighter. Contribute to discord/highlight.js development by creating an account on GitHub.

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 2:26 PM

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Hmm let me test

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listening {
    on<GithubPush> {
        log { "Detected Github push." }
        checkRepository()
    }
}

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Yeah it doesn't highlight anything

distant sun Aug 3, 2021, 2:26 PM

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yes but it does on mobile

lunar cypress Aug 3, 2021, 2:26 PM

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well what is it supposed to highlight exactly

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it highlights the string

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 2:27 PM

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Functions

lunar cypress Aug 3, 2021, 2:27 PM

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every function?

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 2:27 PM

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Yeah

distant sun Aug 3, 2021, 2:27 PM

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fun test(string: String): List<Int> {
  var test: String = "Hei"
  return mutableListOf()
}```

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 2:28 PM

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On the phone it doesn't highlight functions either Gaby

distant sun Aug 3, 2021, 2:29 PM

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I guess it doesn't work because it is looking for fun

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 2:29 PM

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Well i'm talking about function calls

distant sun Aug 3, 2021, 2:29 PM

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test(it -> {});```

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neither it does on java

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 2:33 PM

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Ayy I got it

distant sun Aug 3, 2021, 2:35 PM

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https://pl.kotl.in/ZOLZo0Www

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 2:36 PM

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Yeah I know most places won't highlight it, but that's my goal, is to make it look as close to the IDE as possible

distant sun Aug 3, 2021, 2:36 PM

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ok bud

normal talon Aug 3, 2021, 2:41 PM

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operator fun get(msg) = e.message

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is this correct ?

distant sun Aug 3, 2021, 2:42 PM

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is that supposed to be kotlin?

normal talon Aug 3, 2021, 2:43 PM

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Yea I'm reading this document on github

surreal quarry Aug 3, 2021, 2:45 PM

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it could be depending on the context

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 2:48 PM

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you need a type for msg

static zealot Aug 3, 2021, 2:48 PM

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^^^^^

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get(msg: Type)

normal talon Aug 3, 2021, 2:49 PM

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aah thanks

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there isn't simple tutroials for spigot kotlin coding

surreal quarry Aug 3, 2021, 2:55 PM

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its no different than java, just a few changes in the syntax

static zealot Aug 3, 2021, 2:55 PM

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I mean why are you even learning kotlin? We've mentioned multiple times java is probably better at first

surreal quarry Aug 3, 2021, 2:55 PM

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if you know java the switch to kotlin should take maybe a day or two

static zealot Aug 3, 2021, 2:55 PM

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and after you're confident with java feel free to move to kotlin

onyx loom Aug 3, 2021, 2:56 PM

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class YourPlugin : JavaPlugin() {
  override fun onEnable() {
      logger.log("hello world")
  }
}```
tutorial done

steel heart Aug 3, 2021, 2:56 PM

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Blitz double standards 🤨

static zealot Aug 3, 2021, 2:56 PM

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and by know, we don't mean that you remember that a class needs to be this type etc. I mean you actually understanding it

static zealot Aug 3, 2021, 2:56 PM

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steel heart Blitz double standards 🤨

no. I learnt kotlin first bcz I was forced by mitten. well not forced but recommended. but I learnt my lesson.

surreal quarry Aug 3, 2021, 2:56 PM

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fun main() = object : JavaPlugin() {
    override fun onEnable() {

    }
}```

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 2:56 PM

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if you know kotlin you don't need spigot tutorials

surreal quarry Aug 3, 2021, 2:57 PM

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odds that works?

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 2:57 PM

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no chance

steel heart Aug 3, 2021, 2:57 PM

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static zealot no. I learnt kotlin first bcz I was forced by mitten. well not forced but recomm...

BEIWbwgduenqopsdkdb

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 2:57 PM

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Java isn't better to start imo, but I feel like they are moving too fast, already getting into operator functions etc and only started like 1 hour ago

normal talon Aug 3, 2021, 2:57 PM

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onyx loom ```kt class YourPlugin : JavaPlugin() { override fun onEnable() { logger...

wew thanks I already have that

steel heart Aug 3, 2021, 2:57 PM

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Just learn one of them and stick with it until you’re confident enough in that one imo

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 2:58 PM

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^

static zealot Aug 3, 2021, 2:58 PM

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yeah. I guess if you actually want to learn kotlin, and actually learn it, you can start with that too

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 2:58 PM

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better to be good with 1 than mediocre with both

steel heart Aug 3, 2021, 2:58 PM

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Brb need to grab discord nitro so I can use emotes

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 2:58 PM

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Yeah why are you even swapping from Java to Kotlin, you were just learning Java

static zealot Aug 3, 2021, 2:58 PM

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that hurts mitten sad

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 2:59 PM

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it's true

onyx loom Aug 3, 2021, 3:00 PM

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just be good in both

steel heart Aug 3, 2021, 3:00 PM

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prisma wave better to be good with 1 than mediocre with both

PES_Yeaaa

surreal quarry Aug 3, 2021, 3:00 PM

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onyx loom just be good in both

agreed.. this is the way

jovial warren Aug 3, 2021, 4:37 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/wSrr8lw.png apparently, according to Mojang, an ocelot somehow counts as a monster thonking

hot hull Aug 3, 2021, 4:55 PM

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deep down it wishes it was a monster, but on the outside it's just a squishy katto

jovial warren Aug 3, 2021, 4:58 PM

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lol

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 5:06 PM

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I may or may not have gone overboard with my syntax highlight

onyx loom Aug 3, 2021, 5:06 PM

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😌

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 5:10 PM

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It also uses Fira code cuz best font 😌

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 5:13 PM

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ocean quartz I may or may not have gone overboard with my syntax highlight

😍

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oops ping

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 5:44 PM

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Ayy fixed groovy for gradle as well 😌

obtuse gale Aug 3, 2021, 5:45 PM

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why ...

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 5:46 PM

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Well when i post gradle stuff I tend to do both kts and groovy so, useful ish xD

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Java also looking really nice

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That was actually quite fun

distant sun Aug 3, 2021, 5:49 PM

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nice boy

distant sun Aug 3, 2021, 6:22 PM

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is there an alternative in java for kt's reified, other than a Class<T> argument?

steel heart Aug 3, 2021, 6:24 PM

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you need a reified type?

distant sun Aug 3, 2021, 6:24 PM

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I need to access its class to be more precise

steel heart Aug 3, 2021, 6:25 PM

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Can be done with some reflection

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well I don't know the exact context here but yeah

distant sun Aug 3, 2021, 6:25 PM

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yeah nty

old wyvern Aug 3, 2021, 6:25 PM

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typetokens 🥲

steel heart Aug 3, 2021, 6:25 PM

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^for instance thats how TypeToken does it pretty sure

old wyvern Aug 3, 2021, 6:26 PM

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There isnt an alternative way yet

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But

steel heart Aug 3, 2021, 6:26 PM

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YET

distant sun Aug 3, 2021, 6:26 PM

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will come back to TT later, brb

old wyvern Aug 3, 2021, 6:26 PM

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baked type coming soon

steel heart Aug 3, 2021, 6:26 PM

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😌

old wyvern Aug 3, 2021, 6:26 PM

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😌

jovial warren Aug 3, 2021, 6:26 PM

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the reason why type tokens work is because generic type information is stored in the class file

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I think

old wyvern Aug 3, 2021, 6:26 PM

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Generic type of the parent class is stored

steel heart Aug 3, 2021, 6:27 PM

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anonymous derived type stores the type

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or

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well

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if you do new TypeToken<Map<Blah,Lol,Elara>>() {}

jovial warren Aug 3, 2021, 6:27 PM

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actually, I read about this before

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http://gafter.blogspot.com/2006/12/super-type-tokens.html

Super Type Tokens

When we added generics to Java in JDK5, I changed the class java.lang.Class to become a generic type. For example, the type of String.cla...

steel heart Aug 3, 2021, 6:27 PM

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😌

obtuse gale Aug 3, 2021, 6:29 PM

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distant sun is there an alternative in java for kt's `reified`, other than a `Class<T>` argu...

I don't exactly know how it works but doesn't reified in kt pass the instance of the Class<T> under the hood?

distant sun Aug 3, 2021, 6:30 PM

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Idk tbh, maybe

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I mean, im not totally against Class<T> was just wondering if there would be a better way.

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I will see how I can include TypeTokens in there

steel heart Aug 3, 2021, 6:31 PM

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do u have the ability to use mixins there?

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well unsure if you could mixin on java standard classes

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would be neat

distant sun Aug 3, 2021, 6:32 PM

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Mixin?

steel heart Aug 3, 2021, 6:32 PM

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actually idk

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probably a bad idea if it would work

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ignore me

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 6:39 PM

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obtuse gale I don't exactly know how it works but doesn't `reified` in kt pass the instance ...

yes

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well, no

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not entirely

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because it requires the function to be inline

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 6:40 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/rfenbbJ.png anyone know why this happens when I run a test server?
There's always blank lines in between :/
Sometimes there isn't though (this is the same server session btw): https://i.imgur.com/qMS6gCg.png
and so it gets a bit annoying, for example here this tab message takes up a lot of space in my console: https://i.imgur.com/iJwd7Af.png

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rip embeds

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;-;

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 6:40 PM

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spigot 1.8

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i would be surprised if that wasnt the issue

old wyvern Aug 3, 2021, 6:41 PM

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wgwngerkgn

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Bm

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help

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plz

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 6:41 PM

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unorthodox terminal + old version = bugs

old wyvern Aug 3, 2021, 6:41 PM

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Grrovy and kotlin

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 6:41 PM

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what's up lol

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uh oh

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 6:41 PM

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unorthodox terminal

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thonking

old wyvern Aug 3, 2021, 6:41 PM

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how do I define a groovy extension method from the kotlin dsl

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 6:41 PM

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half harness > unorthodox terminal

intellij terminal

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 6:41 PM

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oh

old wyvern Aug 3, 2021, 6:41 PM

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This is horrible

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 6:41 PM

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old wyvern how do I define a groovy extension method from the kotlin dsl

uh

old wyvern Aug 3, 2021, 6:41 PM

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I hate gradle

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 6:41 PM

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is that possible?

old wyvern Aug 3, 2021, 6:42 PM

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I hope so 😳

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Doesnt the kotlin plugin do that?

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like for

implementation kotlin("46546465")

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 6:42 PM

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is that an extension method?

old wyvern Aug 3, 2021, 6:42 PM

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I thought it was

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extension to the dependency block

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 6:43 PM

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idk

old wyvern Aug 3, 2021, 6:43 PM

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💀

onyx loom Aug 3, 2021, 6:45 PM

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yea it is

steel heart Aug 3, 2021, 6:46 PM

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inline extension Kaliber

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 6:48 PM

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prisma wave intellij terminal

also happens in command prompt.. and latest.log

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🤔

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and it doesn't happen in 1.17hyqbakjns,d

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but still

obtuse gale Aug 3, 2021, 6:48 PM

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Sounds like 1.8 to me

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 6:48 PM

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but

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this hasn't happened before

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i dont think

obtuse gale Aug 3, 2021, 6:49 PM

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Not news

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 6:50 PM

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wdym

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yea i just looked in old logs

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and it doesn't happen

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 6:50 PM

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still a 1.8 problem

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issue resolved

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 6:51 PM

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oh wait i think i know the issue

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nvm

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what

steel heart Aug 3, 2021, 6:52 PM

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dkim do u use 1.8 fr?

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 6:52 PM

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im testing my plugin ._.

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not bedwars btw

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something else :))

steel heart Aug 3, 2021, 6:52 PM

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dkm19375lib?

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 6:52 PM

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even yesterday it didn't do this 😭

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 6:52 PM

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steel heart dkm19375lib?

already exists 😄

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well

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under a different name

steel heart Aug 3, 2021, 6:52 PM

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wjat is it den

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 6:53 PM

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its just a plugin im working on :))

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trying to support 1.8 - 1.17

steel heart Aug 3, 2021, 6:53 PM

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why not support 1.7.10?

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and 1.6.4?

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 6:53 PM

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I can't get 1.7 jar

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plus its too old

steel heart Aug 3, 2021, 6:53 PM

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oh

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well nice

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good luck

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 6:54 PM

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thanks

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the issue still persists without plugins 🤔

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hmmmmmm

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also happens with a brand new server

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D:

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why

magic oriole Aug 3, 2021, 7:09 PM

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Does anyone know of a way to set my minecraft FPS to 0 or 1, or render distance to 0, or essentially anything to have the game keep playing but take up an extremely small amount of resources? I'm AFKing on a server overnight and would have to leave my PC on, but don't wanna run my pc too hard

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 7:12 PM

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magic oriole Does anyone know of a way to set my minecraft FPS to 0 or 1, or render distance ...

iirc there are some mc console clients, where the mc window doesn't show up and it's just a console, maybe that might help

magic oriole Aug 3, 2021, 7:12 PM

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Could I somehow navigate those to a specific spot? I would need to find the AFK pool

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 7:12 PM

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yea you can just exit minecraft once you go to that spot and rejoin using the console client

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here's the first one i found: https://ci.appveyor.com/api/buildjobs/6gdqim18x6qlo5c0/artifacts/MinecraftClient%2Fbin%2FRelease%2FMinecraftClient.exe

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or the github: https://github.com/ORelio/Minecraft-Console-Client/releases/tag/1.9.0

magic oriole Aug 3, 2021, 7:13 PM

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half harness yea you can just exit minecraft once you go to that spot and rejoin using the co...

I always get re-spawned at the spawn on join D:

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 7:13 PM

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O

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uhhhhhhhh

magic oriole Aug 3, 2021, 7:13 PM

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It's already a start tho thank u so much for the help

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I could set a home maybe?

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 7:14 PM

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hm

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if the server allows homes

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then yea

cinder flare Aug 3, 2021, 7:14 PM

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yeah i was gonna say, I'm sure there's a headless minecraft pc thing

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they have ones for your phone where you can login and send text chat and stuff

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 7:14 PM

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headless? 💀

cinder flare Aug 3, 2021, 7:14 PM

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uh yeah headless

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 7:14 PM

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why's it called headless 🤔

cinder flare Aug 3, 2021, 7:14 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headless_software#:~:text=Headless software (e.g.%20%22headless%20Java,on%20servers%20and%20embedded%20devices.

Headless software

Headless software (e.g. "headless Java" or "headless Linux",) is software capable of working on a device without a graphical user interface. Such software receives inputs and provides output through other interfaces like network or serial port and is common on servers and embedded devices.
The term "headless" is most often used when the ordinary...

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 7:15 PM

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ic

rotund egret Aug 3, 2021, 7:15 PM

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I aint got no head

magic oriole Aug 3, 2021, 7:16 PM

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Nvm, apparently console clients aren't allowed on the server

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 7:16 PM

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lol

cinder flare Aug 3, 2021, 7:16 PM

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oof lmao

magic oriole Aug 3, 2021, 7:16 PM

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I asked an admin

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:(

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Any ideas on how to get my fps to 1 or 0?

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 7:16 PM

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i mean isn't that the same as a console client

rotund egret Aug 3, 2021, 7:16 PM

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Max it to 1

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 7:16 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

magic oriole Aug 3, 2021, 7:16 PM

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rotund egret Max it to 1

I can only do 5

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 7:16 PM

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you might be able to change it in options.txt

magic oriole Aug 3, 2021, 7:16 PM

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half harness you might be able to change it in options.txt

That's true

rotund egret Aug 3, 2021, 7:17 PM

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Mixin whatthefuck

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Set TPS to 200

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ez $$$

magic oriole Aug 3, 2021, 7:20 PM

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Would setting res to like

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480p

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Work?

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5fps @ 480p shouldn't be too bad right?

unkempt tangle Aug 3, 2021, 7:21 PM

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https://twitter.com/vamchale/status/1421914688271622144?s=19

Vanessa McHale (@vamchale)

https://t.co/FAxDw7KH3Y

Retweets

643

Likes

3819

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 7:26 PM

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[Char] 😌

static zealot Aug 3, 2021, 7:26 PM

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holly shit. are those actually types of string in rust?

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 7:27 PM

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obtuse gale I don't exactly know how it works but doesn't `reified` in kt pass the instance ...

It's actually pretty hacky

quiet sierra Aug 3, 2021, 7:28 PM

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quality code in vc rn

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 7:28 PM

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ocean quartz It's actually pretty hacky

It kinda stores the class in a map and gets it back when needed

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 7:31 PM

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quiet sierra quality code in vc rn

making threads in kotlin 🤢

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also you can just do ```kt
thread {}

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instead of Thread {}.start()

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 7:32 PM

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Not using coroutines smh

static zealot Aug 3, 2021, 7:33 PM

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well the whole point is to crash his pc

half harness Aug 3, 2021, 7:33 PM

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oh what

lunar cypress Aug 3, 2021, 7:38 PM

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static zealot holly shit. are those actually types of string in rust?

kinda

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sorta

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not really

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You can see all of those as a string, but they don't really all represent a string

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for example they're throwing in a byte pointer as a string type

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lol

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and use &str twice

old wyvern Aug 3, 2021, 7:47 PM

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ocean quartz It kinda stores the class in a map and gets it back when needed

Wait what?

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I thought it only worked with inlined functions where the class in actually known at compile time

jovial warren Aug 3, 2021, 7:52 PM

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I'm pretty sure that's the case too

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 7:59 PM

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Huh just tested it and seems to be the case
I remember it doing what I said before though thonking

prisma wave Aug 3, 2021, 8:46 PM

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nokotlin

forest pecan Aug 3, 2021, 8:58 PM

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Anti Kotlin Karen

static zealot Aug 3, 2021, 10:46 PM

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Well. He's anti anything that he's currently not using

ocean quartz Aug 3, 2021, 10:47 PM

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I don't mind exposed too much but this is pretty damn ugly

distant sun Aug 3, 2021, 10:48 PM

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Smh

static zealot Aug 3, 2021, 10:48 PM

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Hmm nah.

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It is absolutely fine

lucid rock Aug 3, 2021, 11:05 PM

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how do you fix this?

compact perchBOT Aug 3, 2021, 11:05 PM

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Here's a Barry Tip Aiilex:

Use https://paste.helpch.at/ for errors, logs and configs. So we don't spam the discord.

We did it this time for you,

https://paste.helpch.at/qiyetuxina

lucid rock Aug 3, 2021, 11:05 PM

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https://paste.helpch.at/qiyetuxina

distant sun Aug 3, 2021, 11:06 PM

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something is null on PluginMain around L331

static zealot Aug 3, 2021, 11:06 PM

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Welp. I am Slow

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I am groott

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Grout*

cinder flare Aug 3, 2021, 11:07 PM

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he's having a hard time guys

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cut him some slack

static zealot Aug 3, 2021, 11:07 PM

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Phone...

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Groot

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There we go

obtuse gale Aug 3, 2021, 11:16 PM

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help me

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[20:14] kashike: public final class BlockContentTypeLoader extends MultiTypeContentLoader<BlockGenre, ContentBlock, ContentBlock.Builder<ContentBlock, BlockStateDefinition, BlockStateDefinition.Builder<BlockStateDefinition>>, BlockContentProcessor<ContentBlock, ContentBlock.Builder<ContentBlock, BlockStateDefinition, BlockStateDefinition.Builder<BlockStateDefinition>>, BlockStateDefinition, BlockStateDefinition.Builder<BlockStateDefinition>>> implements Witness, MultiTypeContentLoader.Translated<BlockGenre> {
[20:14] kashike: public abstract class MultiTypeContentLoader<T extends Enum<T> & ContentType.MultiType<C, B>, C extends CatalogedContent, B extends ContentBuilder<C>, P extends ConfigProcessor<B>> extends ContentLoaderImpl<C, B, MultiTypeContentLoader.Entry<T, C, B>> implements MultiTypeExternalContentProcessor<T, C, B> {

static zealot Aug 3, 2021, 11:17 PM

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smiling_face_with_3_tears

forest pecan Aug 3, 2021, 11:17 PM

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is that an actual class 😳

steel heart Aug 3, 2021, 11:37 PM

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😌

forest pecan Aug 3, 2021, 11:37 PM

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Did something change with Paper and bukkit or something? For some reason if I use com.destroystokyo.paper:paper-api:1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT my org.bukkit classes aren't showing up and not loaded, but if I use org.spigotmc:spigot-api:1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT they do show up

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which is odd

static zealot Aug 3, 2021, 11:38 PM

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io.papermc.paper:paper-api:...

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@forest pecan

forest pecan Aug 3, 2021, 11:39 PM

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Oh wait

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im an idiot

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🤡

static zealot Aug 3, 2021, 11:39 PM

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Nah. You're not

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I did the same thing yesterday.

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Well maybe we both are. Hmm

forest pecan Aug 3, 2021, 11:40 PM

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Yeah

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we both are idots

static zealot Aug 3, 2021, 11:40 PM

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I'm so glad I'm not alone on this path xD

forest pecan Aug 3, 2021, 11:40 PM

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lol

steel heart Aug 4, 2021, 12:29 AM

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Bakugan

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ASheh

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 1:26 AM

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hiwuads why is intellij giving me a

Unused equals expression
when nullchecking 😒

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trying to do if (duration == null) 5 else 6

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but it won't let me without a warning 😭

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anyone know what intellij wants me to do (kotlin)?

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 1:28 AM

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what's duration?

onyx loom Aug 4, 2021, 1:30 AM

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and context

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 1:31 AM

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uhh oops i didn't check this channel ;-;
but i just ended up making another variable, so now it's this: ```kt
val duration = args[5].toLongOrNull()
val restArgs = args.drop(if (duration == null) 5 else 6).joinToString(" ")

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thonking

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huh, i pasted that code somewhere else and it warns

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thonking

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ok i found a solution: duration?.let { 5 } ?: 6 xD

forest pecan Aug 4, 2021, 1:38 AM

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dkim you used the thonk emote 1000 times

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congratulations

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i just counted with discord

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lol

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 1:39 AM

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wait what

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how did you count 🤔

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 1:39 AM

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half harness ok i found a solution: `duration?.let { 5 } ?: 6` xD

isn't that the opposite of what you had?

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 1:39 AM

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obtuse gale isn't that the opposite of what you had?

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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OOPS

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🤣

forest pecan Aug 4, 2021, 1:40 AM

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go to the search bar

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 1:40 AM

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oh

forest pecan Aug 4, 2021, 1:40 AM

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then type dkim then click user

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and then after that

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type : thonk (without space)

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it says 1044

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 1:40 AM

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oh wow 👀

forest pecan Aug 4, 2021, 1:40 AM

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yep

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 1:40 AM

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lol u only used it 10

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https://paste.helpch.at/odobehamiw.bash
uhhhhhhhhh
the file location exists.... aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

eternal compass Aug 4, 2021, 1:55 AM

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this new InteliJ logo is cool, but it keeps throwing me off, anyone else notice that?

cinder flare Aug 4, 2021, 2:06 AM

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i love it

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i don't know what "keeps throwing me off" means

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or what I'm supposed to notice

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 2:15 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/H7ZHJXW.png lol i looked at my timings and was so surprised that it wasn't lagging (this is a plugin I started working on about a week ago)-

all my other plugins always have red or yellow numbers 🥲

Imgur

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how do other plugins have nothing though 🤔

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how do people optimize so much 😩

inner umbra Aug 4, 2021, 2:24 AM

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Timings only shows the main thread... so anything off of it isn't seen by timings.... Basically... If its async it can't cause lag. (Thats a joke)

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 2:26 AM

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well i mean it is true

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until you reach the limit of the cpu

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but i doubt you'd be doing anything that performance-heavy 🥲

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the thing is that most of the things im trying to do has to be ran on the main thread

inner umbra Aug 4, 2021, 2:41 AM

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half harness the thing is that most of the things im trying to do has to be ran on the main t...

Such as?

forest pecan Aug 4, 2021, 3:18 AM

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inner umbra Such as?

probably stuff related to modifying the world

eternal compass Aug 4, 2021, 4:32 AM

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cinder flare i don't know what "keeps throwing me off" means

It distracts me ig

formal ice Aug 4, 2021, 4:48 AM

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Is anyone good with Skript? I have a skript I'm trying to run that blocks /bal on certain players. (I.e. players can't check Staff Members /bal) and it literally turns my server off every time I use it in game

cinder flare Aug 4, 2021, 4:49 AM

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I think the problem is trying to use Skript in the first place

formal ice Aug 4, 2021, 4:49 AM

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bruh

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You're a support person. Don't be a dick.

cinder flare Aug 4, 2021, 4:50 AM

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I'm a volunteer, and you're asking in the wrong channel 🙂

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Plus Skript is literally a piece of shit, so I can't really help you with it

formal ice Aug 4, 2021, 4:50 AM

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Tell me that then 🙂 Don't be a sarcastic ass.

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So then don't say anything???????

cinder flare Aug 4, 2021, 4:50 AM

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But I wanted to!

misty turtle Aug 4, 2021, 5:03 AM

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@here'

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 5:24 AM

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@old wyvern : thonking ?

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Lmao what the fuck

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thonking

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Anyway
What was that 👀

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 5:29 AM

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Oh

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Answer sheet

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Was uploading it

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Needed to get it onto pc fast

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Had like 2 mins left to submit

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😂

cinder flare Aug 4, 2021, 5:31 AM

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dang racing the clock

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i remember scanning my calc homework as fast as humanly possible 3 minutes before it was due and uploading the pdf

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 5:32 AM

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xD

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I missed due to the same like 2 days ago on my assignments

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got late by 1 min

cinder flare Aug 4, 2021, 5:33 AM

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sheesh

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that sucks

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 5:34 AM

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Yea thats gonna like cost me 10% in the overall grading I think

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Actually, might be 5, not completely sure

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 7:19 AM

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https://www.techradar.com/news/credit-card-stealing-malware-found-in-official-python-repository

TechRadar

Credit card-stealing malware found in official Python repository

Security researchers blame the repository’s lack of moderation

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 7:25 AM

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Python bad

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 7:31 AM

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How else would hackers use a single python function to steal it? Duh

Insert meme about python users raging when they don't have the one function that solves the Pythagorean theorem in 6 dimensions morphing over time based on 8 random numbers generated from atmospheric noise

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 7:33 AM

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kekww

dusk copper Aug 4, 2021, 10:25 AM

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old wyvern https://www.techradar.com/news/credit-card-stealing-malware-found-in-official-py...

credit_card = overly_verbose_and_specific_function_that_steals_credit_cards()

normal talon Aug 4, 2021, 10:54 AM

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Can I use Java and kotlin in one plugin ?

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 10:54 AM

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Yes

normal talon Aug 4, 2021, 10:54 AM

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aah nice

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cuz my color thingy I don't know how to rewrite it in kotlin since I got help from here

distant sun Aug 4, 2021, 10:55 AM

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why dont you just stick to one language until you learn it well enough?

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 10:56 AM

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^

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 10:56 AM

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bcz why would anyone do what we already said 5 times? sad

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 10:57 AM

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🥴

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simon_peek

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 10:58 AM

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Stick with haskell

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 10:58 AM

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^

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 10:58 AM

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:simon_peek:

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 10:59 AM

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☹️

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old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 10:59 AM

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new haskell mascot??

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 10:59 AM

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simon_peek

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 10:59 AM

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haskell_anime_girl.png

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 10:59 AM

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it's beautiful

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her and simon

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🤩

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 11:00 AM

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btw bm, I figured out the groovy issue

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 11:00 AM

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Ah nice

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 11:00 AM

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seems you just need a doCall function

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groovy looks up the doCall def that matches the call

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prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 11:00 AM

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It calls a function in order to call a function?

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 11:01 AM

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yup

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 11:01 AM

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Classic

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doCall = func

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😌

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 11:01 AM

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😌

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 12:56 PM

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oh boy smiling_face_with_3_tears

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@hot hull I summon you xD

hot hull Aug 4, 2021, 12:57 PM

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Oh boy

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@lucid tangle The answer to that is, no

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 12:57 PM

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xD

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thank you frosty.

hot hull Aug 4, 2021, 1:01 PM

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No problem, anytime

lucid tangle Aug 4, 2021, 1:28 PM

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Skript hater 😠

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 1:29 PM

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welp. its you against the world. so good luck

hot hull Aug 4, 2021, 1:34 PM

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Nothing against skript, all against the people who use it in the wrong way

lucid tangle Aug 4, 2021, 1:47 PM

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Oh, I just use it for simple commands

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Not making a full-skript server

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 2:07 PM

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@hot hull Since it has been a while since last time I showed you some progress

hot hull Aug 4, 2021, 2:09 PM

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oo nice

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 2:40 PM

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new ben awad video.

forest pecan Aug 4, 2021, 2:58 PM

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lucid tangle Skript hater 😠

We had this conversation in spigot discord already lol

lucid tangle Aug 4, 2021, 2:59 PM

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forest pecan We had this conversation in spigot discord already lol

y e s

winter iron Aug 4, 2021, 3:09 PM

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static zealot new ben awad video.

My hero 😍

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 3:19 PM

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#871306912342343701 message
wait a minute

3-4 hours a day

$75/month

75 * 12 = 900/year / 365 = 2.47/day / 3 -> 4 = $0.62 - $0.82 / hour 🥲

onyx loom Aug 4, 2021, 3:20 PM

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a worthy salary

hot hull Aug 4, 2021, 3:28 PM

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Lmao

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 3:28 PM

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well.. last time it was like 45$/month

winter iron Aug 4, 2021, 3:28 PM

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🙂

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 3:28 PM

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you should be grateful.

hot hull Aug 4, 2021, 3:28 PM

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@shrewd jolt Please delete that, I beg

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 3:37 PM

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half harness https://discord.com/channels/164280494874165248/871306912342343701/8724922788564...

McDonalds work it is, pays better

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 4:00 PM

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static zealot well.. last time it was like 45$/month

oh 🤣 🥲

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but this one has a time requirement

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per day

frail glade Aug 4, 2021, 4:14 PM

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@old wyvern

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 4:15 PM

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Im trying, gradle api sucks tho

frail glade Aug 4, 2021, 4:15 PM

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😦

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Do you know if theres any way to get extra function that works fine on both groovy and kotlin?

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I got it to work on groovy and kotlin separately

frail glade Aug 4, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Let me phone my Gradle experts.

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Alrighty

frail glade Aug 4, 2021, 4:35 PM

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No confident answers.

shrewd jolt Aug 4, 2021, 4:37 PM

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Well, people are msging me to apply so I’ll raise it if I get no decent applicants lol

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 4:37 PM

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I really hope you understand those are most likely not developers.

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just "wannabe" developers.

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if they have no clue what development payment should be.

shrewd jolt Aug 4, 2021, 4:38 PM

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Yeah that’s true, well, we’re in no huge rush

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I’ve found reliable people who don’t charge much in the past, partly due to them wanting to work with “famous YouTubers”

eager fern Aug 4, 2021, 4:39 PM

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That’s less then a 50 cents a day

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 4:39 PM

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hellshowers

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your matt

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math*

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is kinda bad

shrewd jolt Aug 4, 2021, 4:39 PM

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Also $75 was the minimum, I’m willing to go double or triple that lol

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 4:39 PM

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Why does he want a Matt?

eager fern Aug 4, 2021, 4:39 PM

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40 an hour or naw

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I mean

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Week

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Matt is a qt

shrewd jolt Aug 4, 2021, 4:40 PM

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wut

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I said $75/month minimum

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 4:40 PM

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shrewd jolt Also $75 was the minimum, I’m willing to go double or triple that lol

yeah. I guess budget is usually the highest you go and you negotiate down from there. or at least that's how most #871306912342343701 work.

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but yeah I didn't see the minimum

shrewd jolt Aug 4, 2021, 4:40 PM

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Fairs, I’ll edit it

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There we go :D lol

eager fern Aug 4, 2021, 4:43 PM

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1k a month and I got you

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 4:44 PM

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damn. I finally finished Triumph Chat!

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 4:44 PM

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Smh

onyx loom Aug 4, 2021, 4:44 PM

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😐

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good one

hot hull Aug 4, 2021, 4:45 PM

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eager fern 1k a month and I got you

1k a month get's you 40 hours

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Take it or leave it

eager fern Aug 4, 2021, 4:50 PM

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Lmao

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 4:54 PM

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from today I will not be working on any triumph library, framework or plugin anymore. bye

onyx loom Aug 4, 2021, 4:55 PM

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ok

errant geyser Aug 4, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Since Bardy abandoned Octo, are there any decent JDA frameworks out there or is it back to plain JDA now?

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 5:02 PM

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what's wrong with JDA?

errant geyser Aug 4, 2021, 5:03 PM

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Nothing, I just liked how simple Octo was

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 5:03 PM

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if u want commands, u can use jda chewtilities or whatever it is called

errant geyser Aug 4, 2021, 5:03 PM

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right, thanks

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 5:04 PM

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https://github.com/Chew/JDA-Chewtils

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fork of JDA-Utilities

frail glade Aug 4, 2021, 5:04 PM

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Cloud JDA 👀

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 5:18 PM

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Matt has one as well

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 5:18 PM

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does he?

onyx loom Aug 4, 2021, 5:20 PM

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only for commands i think

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 5:21 PM

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Yea

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Isnt that almost everything you need tho

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 5:23 PM

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Old af though

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 5:32 PM

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shrewd jolt Also $75 was the minimum, I’m willing to go double or triple that lol

double = ~$1.2/hour
triple = ~$1.8/hour
🥲

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 5:42 PM

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half harness double = ~$1.2/hour triple = ~$1.8/hour 🥲

Hey that's more than the minimum wage in my country lmao

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FW #851563025190223913 message

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 5:43 PM

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o

onyx loom Aug 4, 2021, 5:45 PM

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sign up then!

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 5:45 PM

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Pretty much free money

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Actually wtf

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 5:45 PM

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yeah. I Was going to say. That might actually attract good-ish develoeprs. bcz in a lot of countires thats a lot more than what they would normally make but still. they're starting to understand that they can get paid US salaries

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 5:45 PM

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Doing like plugin work in a poor country must be so good

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 5:46 PM

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since they do the same work

onyx loom Aug 4, 2021, 5:46 PM

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🥲

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 5:46 PM

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prisma wave Doing like plugin work in a poor country must be so good

u would think.

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 5:46 PM

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You can still charge like $20/hr but that's worth so much more

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Is it not?

onyx loom Aug 4, 2021, 5:46 PM

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depends if its relative

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 5:46 PM

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well yeah. problem is you can't really get someone to pay 20$ xD

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 5:46 PM

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Well it wouldn't be cuz it's international

onyx loom Aug 4, 2021, 5:46 PM

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relative in terms of prices in shops and stuff

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 5:46 PM

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I'm getting 15/hr for my work atm

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Well yeah

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But like

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That's how money works no?

onyx loom Aug 4, 2021, 5:47 PM

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yes

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 5:47 PM

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$15 is worth $15 everywhere

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But $15 will get you a house in some places and a loaf of bread in others

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SO

onyx loom Aug 4, 2021, 5:47 PM

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🥲

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 5:47 PM

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If you live in somewhere where you could buy a house

surreal quarry Aug 4, 2021, 5:47 PM

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yea 15 is definitely not the same everywhere

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 5:47 PM

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It's great

onyx loom Aug 4, 2021, 5:47 PM

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i actually looked at house prices in some poor countries before

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 5:48 PM

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Because you get paid significantly above the average wage for your country

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Even though the work isn't much harder

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 5:48 PM

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onyx loom i actually looked at house prices in some poor countries before

Planning on moving, huh?

onyx loom Aug 4, 2021, 5:48 PM

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maybe 🌞

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 5:48 PM

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Lmao

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 5:48 PM

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My mum owns a house in bulgaria

onyx loom Aug 4, 2021, 5:48 PM

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fancy

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 5:48 PM

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Not really

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It cost about 8k

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Pretty much just a stone box with beds doors and a big garden

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 5:49 PM

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Literally Bulgaria

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 5:49 PM

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Yes

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Literally

onyx loom Aug 4, 2021, 5:50 PM

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smh

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for 8k u could basically buy a mansion in india

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 5:50 PM

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u sure about that?

distant sun Aug 4, 2021, 5:50 PM

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obtuse gale Hey that's more than the minimum wage in my country lmao

Where do you live?

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 5:51 PM

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because I Don't believe you could Kaliber

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 5:51 PM

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No?

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Youd get a normal house maybe

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 5:51 PM

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but yeah. I understand. the thing is... developers from poor countries just undercharge.

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and that's why you see all those people saying "someone else would've done it for 1/4 the price you did it for"

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 5:52 PM

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My current house is like around 100k

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Its not even close to a mansion

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 5:52 PM

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yeah. home prices sky rocketed here as well.

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well they've been increasing a lot in the past few years

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we're still top 1 at home owning tho

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in the world

surreal quarry Aug 4, 2021, 5:53 PM

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no america #1 obviously

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in everything

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 5:54 PM

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distant sun Where do you live?

Argentina

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 5:54 PM

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I Mean. if you think about it, the whole culture in "modern" countries is to pay rent. and yeah I Know a lot of people would love to own a house over paying rent but it is what it is.

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 5:54 PM

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Everyone would prefer to own than rent

onyx loom Aug 4, 2021, 5:54 PM

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https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/92411984#/media?id=media0&ref=photoCollage&channel=OVERSEAS

Rightmove.co.uk

Check out this 4 bedroom detached house for sale on Rightmove

4 bedroom detached house for sale in Anjuna, North Goa, Goa, India for £1,068,122. Marketed by JBrown, London

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 5:54 PM

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I actually know people who don't

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they're young and only care about partying and stuff.

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so yeah. I guess you could say "any smart person wants"

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the thing is, the culture here is, work your fucking ass off, and don't take loans from banks.

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or at least in my area. people hate banks. tho they're being forced to use them bcz now most companies only give you the salary thru banks. but even my parents, they receive the money and next day its out of the bank

onyx loom Aug 4, 2021, 6:01 PM

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whats wrong with banks

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i can understand a loan, but storing the money in cash instead?

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 6:02 PM

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I could go on and on about stuff wrong with banks. but main reason is people don't trust it. there's a lot of stories of banks taking people's homes. and sometime for stupid reasons

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and the sue for everything culture doesn't exist here xD

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 6:03 PM

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static zealot and the `sue for everything` culture doesn't exist here xD

Y'all pussies, that's what's wrong

onyx loom Aug 4, 2021, 6:03 PM

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yeah

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 6:04 PM

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maybe. bust still. fuck banks

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 6:23 PM

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anyone has a snapshot of this page? https://mcflags.emc.gs

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its the startup flags

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or what flags are recommended these days?

surreal quarry Aug 4, 2021, 6:26 PM

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java -Xdebug -Xrunjdwp:server=y,transport=dt_socket,address=5005,suspend=n -Xms2G -Xmx2G -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1NewSizePercent=30 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=8M -XX:G1ReservePercent=20 -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=15 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs -Daikars.new.flags=true -jar Server.jar nogui i think this is it

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it also has a few different jvm flags for like intellij and hot reloading i think

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 6:27 PM

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thank you. is this what the cool kids use these days tho?

surreal quarry Aug 4, 2021, 6:27 PM

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perhaps

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 6:27 PM

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alright. thank you

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 6:29 PM

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static zealot anyone has a snapshot of this page? https://mcflags.emc.gs

does it not work for you?

surreal quarry Aug 4, 2021, 6:30 PM

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didn’t for me a second ago

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 6:31 PM

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obtuse gale does it not work for you?

nope

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its just a blank page and the title loading forever

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actually

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 6:32 PM

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weird

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 6:32 PM

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doesn't even load a page

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at all

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oh wait wtf

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somehow got on this page now https://aikar.co/2018/07/02/tuning-the-jvm-g1gc-garbage-collector-flags-for-minecraft/

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in a private tab

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so might need to clear cache

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or wait a second

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 6:32 PM

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lmao

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 6:32 PM

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let me time it.

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40 seconds lmao

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to load

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that makes a lot of sense

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 6:35 PM

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static zealot its just a blank page and the title loading forever

same 🤔

steel heart Aug 4, 2021, 6:49 PM

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Anyone knows if fjp eagerly or lazily create new threads, I assume it’s eagerly since it’s a fixed size but unsure.

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 6:51 PM

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half harness same 🤔

yeah. it took me a little over 40 seconds to load

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the other times I Was just not waiting

late bramble Aug 4, 2021, 6:52 PM

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wait wait wait

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this is probably really obvious

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but is banning just a playerjoinevent cancel

surreal quarry Aug 4, 2021, 6:54 PM

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might be better to change the result of PlayerLoginEvent

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 6:54 PM

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Player join event isn't cancellable

late bramble Aug 4, 2021, 6:54 PM

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whatt

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so lame

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 6:55 PM

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join is after they've logged in and spawned in the world

late bramble Aug 4, 2021, 6:55 PM

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ah

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 6:55 PM

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besides you can just add a ban entry instead of preventing login manually lmao

late bramble Aug 4, 2021, 6:55 PM

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Yeah i wasnt sure if like

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 6:55 PM

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You can provide a deny response in prelogin event

late bramble Aug 4, 2021, 6:55 PM

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Just from a base level, banning was just canceling a login event

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 6:56 PM

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essentially

late bramble Aug 4, 2021, 6:56 PM

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just popped into my head so I'd thought I should ask

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 7:09 PM

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@half harness what u doing?

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 7:10 PM

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static zealot <@!521485088995672084> what u doing?

watching a 2 fps discord mc stream from _riced_

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 7:10 PM

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k.

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so u wanna play bw?

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with me?

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 7:10 PM

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uh

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1 sec

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 7:11 PM

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1 sec for answer? or 1 sec and then we play?

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 7:11 PM

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1 sec for answer

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 7:11 PM

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1

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 7:11 PM

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since i can't just leave the ss ;-;

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 7:11 PM

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why?

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there's a button for literally that

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leave stream

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or whatever its called

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is your discord bugged out?

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 7:11 PM

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yea but i dont want to just randomly leave ._.

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 7:12 PM

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ah

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 7:13 PM

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ok

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get on hypixel :))

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blitz

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 7:15 PM

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yes I saw

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already opening mc

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done

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 8:18 PM

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Oh my god, I just lost all the progress I did yesterday on the highlight, i forgot the files were on the node_module part which isn't put on github and i ran yarn install so it was replaced by the original, someone shoot me 🥲

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 8:18 PM

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smiling_face_with_3_tears

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 8:19 PM

#

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https://tenor.com/view/banging-head-bang-gif-12070477

Tenor

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I'm fine i promise

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 8:21 PM

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ocean quartz Oh my god, I just lost all the progress I did yesterday on the highlight, i forg...

IntelliJ Local History 😌

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 8:22 PM

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which isn't put on github

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 8:22 PM

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it doesn't rely on github

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 8:22 PM

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It's gitignored, ij doesn't track it

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 8:23 PM

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thonking

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https://i.imgur.com/SgIpDwy.png

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it still works

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at least for me

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 8:24 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/jesus-ballin-mars-bars-gif-19910027

Tenor

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 8:24 PM

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-_-

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 8:24 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/SgIpDwy.png

Imgur

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 8:25 PM

#

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how

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 8:25 PM

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discord

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 8:25 PM

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half harness

this is not an embed

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https://i.imgur.com/SgIpDwy.png

Imgur

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oh

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it works now

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nice

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but it still records changes

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as long as its a file that contains text

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 8:26 PM

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half harness https://i.imgur.com/SgIpDwy.png

soooo if you're using a jetbrains ide you can just use local history

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:))

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 8:27 PM

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Dkim, go to project explore and unclick show ignored files (i think that's the name) and try again

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 8:27 PM

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project explorer?

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oh

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wheres project explorer?

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i just right clicked the project window and clicked "Show ignored files" and now it says "1 hidden"

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and that "1 hidden" folder is the .idea folder

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o wait

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what now i can't use show history?? thonking

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why does intellij do this

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wait im so confused

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lol

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what

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 8:30 PM

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oh they updated this?

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 8:30 PM

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1 of my ignored folders have history on

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but the other ignored folders dont

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 8:30 PM

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static zealot oh they updated this?

that is so fucking disgusting

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 8:31 PM

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why?

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I actually like it

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these are mine

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I feel like they're more clean

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I Love them

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 8:31 PM

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I like this style

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rounded with the outline

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 8:31 PM

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hmm

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 8:31 PM

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static zealot these are mine

that looks

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outdated lmfao

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 8:31 PM

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yeah. I guess. the other roles is broken again xD

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 8:31 PM

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🤣

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im not sure it can be fixed anymore

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lol

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 8:32 PM

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yeah

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was just telling that to cube

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but yeah emilly I guess you're kinda right. I do like the old ones more

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but these ones are not that bad. and I can see what they're trying to o

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do*

#

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I can't see how they looked before

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can you do a screenshot for matt's profile

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in full?

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welp. going to watch a Star Trek movie

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bye

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 8:35 PM

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obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 8:35 PM

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static zealot

those kinda look like clickable buttons lmao

static zealot Aug 4, 2021, 8:36 PM

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they indeed do

sly sonnet Aug 4, 2021, 8:47 PM

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guess what imma do

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 9:20 PM

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Guides that have pictures of code instead of code blocks are the worse

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 9:21 PM

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😩

steel heart Aug 4, 2021, 9:21 PM

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ocean quartz Guides that have pictures of code instead of code blocks are the worse

copy pasta prevention

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PES5_BigBrain

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 9:26 PM

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what did I just find

steel heart Aug 4, 2021, 9:26 PM

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truee

onyx loom Aug 4, 2021, 9:27 PM

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java is part of .NET framework 🙂

distant sun Aug 4, 2021, 9:27 PM

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@ocean quartz GG noob

frail glade Aug 4, 2021, 9:38 PM

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So Yugi what Gradle problems are you having? Can they not be split from Groovy and Kotlin?

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 9:49 PM

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I managed to fix it actually

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Seemed to have been an issue with shadow doing some implicit relocation

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So it wasnt able to cast to a function type where needed because of the package difference

frail glade Aug 4, 2021, 9:53 PM

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Ooo you did? Sick.

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So we down to like 10 things left till it's all good to go?

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 9:56 PM

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Its ready

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Just need to test

frail glade Aug 4, 2021, 10:07 PM

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😮

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dance

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 10:19 PM

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Who has font ligatures in their docs 😌

tired igloo Aug 4, 2021, 10:27 PM

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Anyone here good at using hoverevent, showtext and click events?

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 10:29 PM

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You'd have better luck if you asked what you need help with specifically

tired igloo Aug 4, 2021, 10:32 PM

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Well I am using a help plugin to create a custom help layout

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I made 5 headings, I want to make it so when you hover over each bit of text it gives a description. then when you click the text it open another page of text

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But i have no idea what way to do the layout to make it do all that as im new to this

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Any idea?

forest pecan Aug 4, 2021, 10:37 PM

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ocean quartz Who has font ligatures in their docs 😌

like the == sign?

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and != becomes the = with the slash

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boy i wish github would do that

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for display

tired igloo Aug 4, 2021, 10:37 PM

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Pulse any idea about what I posted?

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Really need the help

forest pecan Aug 4, 2021, 10:38 PM

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Well

Wrong channel #development is probably more suited
im sorry i don't really use Spigot's chatcomponent api

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a lot of us use Adventure

tired igloo Aug 4, 2021, 10:38 PM

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Ah right fair enough np

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 10:46 PM

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forest pecan like the == sign?

Yes sir 😌

forest pecan Aug 4, 2021, 10:47 PM

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OwO

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yeah i got those

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 10:47 PM

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😌

forest pecan Aug 4, 2021, 10:47 PM

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those arrows tho

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so sexy

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 10:49 PM

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forest pecan yeah i got those

On your docs? ;o

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 10:49 PM

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triumph docs ftw

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Matt, will this be available for others to use?

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 10:49 PM

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I think I'll make it easy for others to use, but not exactly made for it

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At least not until i can make this better

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 10:50 PM

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Ahh

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 10:50 PM

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Cuz still no idea what I am doing on the front end side 🥲

old wyvern Aug 4, 2021, 10:50 PM

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🥲

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 10:50 PM

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This is how it looks so far though

cinder flare Aug 4, 2021, 10:51 PM

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damn I am liking that

half harness Aug 4, 2021, 10:51 PM

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~~light mode?~~

cinder flare Aug 4, 2021, 10:51 PM

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this is like mkdocs or whatever but with the MF-color scheme

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and i love it

forest pecan Aug 4, 2021, 10:52 PM

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ocean quartz On your docs? ;o

I was talking about IDE

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i didnt know you can use them on docs

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 10:53 PM

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You can on mine 😌

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 10:53 PM

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half harness ~~light mode?~~

die

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 10:58 PM

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ocean quartz Yes sir 😌

WHERE is >>=

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 10:59 PM

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I wonder how hard it'd be to make this public
I guess an editing mode shouldn't be too hard

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 10:59 PM

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prisma wave WHERE is `>>=`

Somewhere

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 10:59 PM

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hmmm

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I expect a screenshot within the next 10 minutes or there will be trouble

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Add <$> while you're at it too

ocean quartz Aug 4, 2021, 11:00 PM

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Pc is already off, so maybe tomorrow if I don't forget

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 11:00 PM

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🤬 🤬 🤬

forest pecan Aug 4, 2021, 11:00 PM

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has anyone put VERSION_1_6 instead of VERSION_16 in gradle accidently for java version

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lol

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 11:00 PM

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hahah no

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:)

forest pecan Aug 4, 2021, 11:01 PM

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Java 16 is 10 times better than Java 1.6

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 11:04 PM

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That's a bit of an understatement

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1.6 is borderline unusable

forest pecan Aug 4, 2021, 11:04 PM

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Yeah lol

cinder flare Aug 4, 2021, 11:06 PM

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prisma wave WHERE is `>>=`

what that

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haskell thingy?

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 11:06 PM

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No of course not, it's the bitwise right shift assign operator

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Oh and also it's in Haskell, I forgot about that

cinder flare Aug 4, 2021, 11:07 PM

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what languages does that exist in lol

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 11:07 PM

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Java, C, etc

cinder flare Aug 4, 2021, 11:07 PM

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that exists in Java and C???

forest pecan Aug 4, 2021, 11:07 PM

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Yeah

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 11:07 PM

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int x = 4;
x >>= 2;

x = x >> 2

forest pecan Aug 4, 2021, 11:07 PM

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^

cinder flare Aug 4, 2021, 11:07 PM

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damb, news to me

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 11:08 PM

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But yes it's also the monadic bind operator 😌 simon_peek

cinder flare Aug 4, 2021, 11:08 PM

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i knew it

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 11:08 PM

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but obviously I wasn't talking about that

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hey uh

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Anyone know how to make a LEGIT website?

cinder flare Aug 4, 2021, 11:10 PM

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in CSS or HTML?!

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 11:10 PM

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HTLM*

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HTML is for non-LEGIT websites

cinder flare Aug 4, 2021, 11:10 PM

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ah true true

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JS? never heard of it

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actually that would be a nice reality

prisma wave Aug 4, 2021, 11:10 PM

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You mean ScriptJava?

forest pecan Aug 4, 2021, 11:16 PM

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Should I use ImmutableMap in java 16 in place of Map if I exceed 10 entries?

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(10 entries is the max for Map.of)

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 11:18 PM

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ofEntries

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and static import Map.entry for that as well

forest pecan Aug 4, 2021, 11:19 PM

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Ok

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Yeah that works thx

cinder flare Aug 4, 2021, 11:20 PM

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ye ye

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java builders

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 11:21 PM

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not really a builder

cinder flare Aug 4, 2021, 11:36 PM

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it kind of is though

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what would you call it

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a map creator?

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 11:38 PM

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factory

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static factory

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factory_method_pattern
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Builder_pattern

lunar cypress Aug 4, 2021, 11:40 PM

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factory method is not static factory method though

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/W3sDesign_Factory_Method_Design_Pattern_UML.jpg

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that's factory method

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 11:41 PM

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Well in the case of Map.of/ofEntries/entry it is :P

lunar cypress Aug 4, 2021, 11:42 PM

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I am pointing this out because you linked the factory method pattern

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which is not what the methods in question apply

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 11:43 PM

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'cause there isn't an article for static

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pepecry

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sadge

lunar cypress Aug 4, 2021, 11:45 PM

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I'll admit I did not know the factory method pattern before my recent exam though

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I had never seen it

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and tbh I still don't really understand how it's supposed to be special or useful

obtuse gale Aug 4, 2021, 11:46 PM

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eh

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idrk how to feel about them lmao

lunar cypress Aug 4, 2021, 11:47 PM

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to me it just seems like a specialised strategy pattern

#

I wonder for how long I will remember all those patterns lmao

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I literally burned them all into my brain in 2 weeks

cinder flare Aug 4, 2021, 11:59 PM

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@forest whale have you heard of emacs org-mode?

prisma wave Aug 5, 2021, 12:12 AM

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👀

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simon_peek

forest whale Aug 5, 2021, 12:21 AM

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cinder flare <@!189541376201850882> have you heard of emacs org-mode?

nope whyyyy

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 12:24 AM

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it's very good at taking notes! 🙂

lunar cypress Aug 5, 2021, 12:25 AM

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Lmao

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 12:26 AM

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now do I know how to use it? Just barely

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but the power when you do is superb

hot hull Aug 5, 2021, 5:12 AM

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@rough socket I sure do hope your request is a joke

dawn hinge Aug 5, 2021, 5:16 AM

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I doubt it

ruby dew Aug 5, 2021, 7:33 AM

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im crazy
working on a plugin library & offline players editor that reads offline player data from player data file and edit it

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still have 10+ versions to support

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im so tired of nms reflections

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nobody asked but yeah

distant sun Aug 5, 2021, 7:34 AM

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I thought nms is fun 🤔

ruby dew Aug 5, 2021, 7:34 AM

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but it becomes repetitive action now

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since i am just finding the similar methods in every single version of spigot ever

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and have to reflect one by one

#

nms is fun because you can explore methods
but now i have become nms machine lol

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public interface Offliner {
    public String getUUID();

    public String getName();

    public Object getBase();

    public void loadData(DataManager manager) throws PlayerDataNotFoundException, PlayerOnlineModificationException;

    public void saveData(DataManager manager) throws FileNotFoundException;

    public void setHealth(float f);

    public float getHealth();

    public void addEffect(int effectId, int duration, int amplification, boolean ambient, boolean particles);

    public void removeEffect(int effectId);

    public void removeAllEffects();

    public List<Object> getEffects();
    
    public boolean hasEffect(int id);
    
    public void setItemInHandIndex(int index);

    public void setItems(ItemStack[] items) throws InventoryArgumentsException;

    public void setArmour(ItemStack[] items) throws InventoryArgumentsException;

    public ItemStack[] getItems();

    public ItemStack[] getArmours();

    public int getItemInHand();

    void setItemAtIndex(int index, ItemStack item);
}

anymore methods to add?

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i feel like i have exhausted all the possibilities here

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as for 1.8

barren solar Aug 5, 2021, 7:46 AM

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ruby dew as for 1.8

I don't know the gamemode or context you're operating in, but hunger, coords (+yaw and pitch), and world?

ruby dew Aug 5, 2021, 7:46 AM

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oh yes that helps a lot omg

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thx a lot mate 🙏
if you have any suggestions pls ping me again

distant sun Aug 5, 2021, 7:53 AM

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Obfuscated code = shitty code and/or insecure dev
Change my mind

ruby dew Aug 5, 2021, 7:54 AM

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minecraft client devs = obfuscated code = insecure dev and/or shitty code
100% correct

barren solar Aug 5, 2021, 7:56 AM

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distant sun > Obfuscated code = shitty code and/or insecure dev Change my mind

I never obfuscate anything but if you ask the Spigot staff I have the worst code there is because they roasted me every premium plugin I submitted 😂

ruby dew Aug 5, 2021, 7:58 AM

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i dont even have the permission to submit premium plugin lmao

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as my spigot profile is so not maintained

barren solar Aug 5, 2021, 8:06 AM

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ruby dew as my spigot profile is so not maintained

Every time in the past that I've submitted they gave me a lecture on how I use static inappropriately. I've gotten the same lecture by people in the discussion sections of my plugins. Literally every resource I've ever looked up has never given me any reason not to use static as a means to access a constant public variable though so until someone explains instead of roasts I guess I'll never know lol.

ruby dew Aug 5, 2021, 8:08 AM

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barren solar Every time in the past that I've submitted they gave me a lecture on how I use s...

yeah people just wont stop bragging about "oop style" or some crap lol every time they see any static keyword that appears
and they just kinda force you to use "dependency injection" when you dont have to lol
when using static variables is 100x faster and more efficient

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:16 AM

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"dependency injection"

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i love the quotes lmao

#

the goal of OOP is to protect you from yourself essentially

#

encapsulation is the big keyword

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static getters and other static abuse essentially destroys that rule, so that's why they're so discouraged

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when you do dependency injection, you have to make things in a certain order and you know exactly which instance you're getting

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static getters can work for a singleton, but rarely do people make actual singletons

ruby dew Aug 5, 2021, 8:19 AM

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but i mean the classes with like all public static functions

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you dont need encapsulation for util classes

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:20 AM

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oh yeah true

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i don't think there's much wrong with those

ruby dew Aug 5, 2021, 8:20 AM

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but people just wont stop talking about oop even with library classes

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:20 AM

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i mean it's the Java experience

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Java's whole schtick is OOP everything

ocean quartz Aug 5, 2021, 8:20 AM

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It's almost like java is an OOP language

ruby dew Aug 5, 2021, 8:20 AM

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pepe hands

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:20 AM

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but I mean yeah, pure functions can totally be static

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but I don't think people would lecture you about dependency injection for pure static functions

ocean quartz Aug 5, 2021, 8:22 AM

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Static methods doesn't mean you can't pass the plugin instance as a parameter
The whole "di when you don't have to" doesn't apply here

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:22 AM

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Yeah was gonna say

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I don't think that's what they're talking about

barren solar Aug 5, 2021, 8:24 AM

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cinder flare i don't think there's much wrong with those

Spigot has turned down numerous premium plugin requests because of exactly this for me at least 😂
Edit: I should add they absolutely ROASTED me in the process of the denial as well basically said learn how to code kid

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:25 AM

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Dang, can I see these premium plugins' source code?

brazen narwhal Aug 5, 2021, 8:25 AM

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java is a poop language ha gotem

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:25 AM

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I severely doubt they'd turn you down for static pure functions

ocean quartz Aug 5, 2021, 8:25 AM

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Lots of static methods != util methods
If they turned you down it's because you were using it wrong

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:25 AM

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Yeah I'm sure there was something spoopy going on

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They may be dumb, but I don't think they're that dumb

ocean quartz Aug 5, 2021, 8:27 AM

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More than half the people posting spigot plugins don't even know what the static keyword does

distant sun Aug 5, 2021, 8:29 AM

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it lets you do anything wdym

barren solar Aug 5, 2021, 8:29 AM

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It just makes every instantiated object of that variable refer to the same memory value is my understanding

distant sun Aug 5, 2021, 8:30 AM

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cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:30 AM

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barren solar It just makes every instantiated object of that variable refer to the same memor...

It means different things in different contexts

ruby dew Aug 5, 2021, 8:30 AM

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i mean all purely public static methods
ofc you can still have a class that has some instance methods and static methods
but i am talking about all static methods which is util methods
and ofc you can use dependency injection on util classes lol
but thats just a waste of resource

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:30 AM

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For variables, yeah it does something like that, basically making it a constant

barren solar Aug 5, 2021, 8:31 AM

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"static indicates that the particular member belongs to the type itself, rather than to an instance of the type"

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:31 AM

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For methods, it means you don't need an instance of the surrounding class to call it

barren solar Aug 5, 2021, 8:31 AM

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It's basically like every instance of the type referring back to the prototype

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So why would it be bad practice to have a util class full of em

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:31 AM

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He's talking about static methods

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Not static variables

#

Methods that are pure and don't have any side effects can be static, usually utility methods is what they're called

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For things like parsing color codes, or printing a message or something

barren solar Aug 5, 2021, 8:32 AM

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"When a variable is declared as static, then a single copy of variable is created and shared among all objects at class level. Static variables are, essentially, global variables."

ocean quartz Aug 5, 2021, 8:33 AM

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ruby dew i mean all purely public static methods ofc you can still have a class that has...

"That's a waste of resource"

barren solar Aug 5, 2021, 8:33 AM

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My understanding is perfectly in line with all documentation I'm finding, but I still don't understand why it would ever be bad practice to have util classes with static methods and vars

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:33 AM

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It wouldn't

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My guess is that some other stupid shit is going on and that's why they are getting denied

ruby dew Aug 5, 2021, 8:33 AM

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ocean quartz "That's a waste of resource"

a pointer to a class is also a kind of resource
basically when you dependency inject you are initailizing a pointer i guess

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:34 AM

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You're passing a pointer

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which takes up like, a good 2 bytes of stack space

ocean quartz Aug 5, 2021, 8:34 AM

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You're not initializing things again, that's literally the point of dependency injection, to share already existing instances

barren solar Aug 5, 2021, 8:34 AM

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cinder flare My guess is that some other stupid shit is going on and that's why they are gett...

Oh I wouldn't doubt there is SOME stupid shit somewhere going on as I don't follow the semantic standards/conventions perfectlyyyyyyyy. But the point is that's not the reason they gave me. They specifically told me they denied me because I don't understand the proper use of static.

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:35 AM

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Is your code open source?

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I'd like to take a look possibly and maybe see if they are justified lol

ruby dew Aug 5, 2021, 8:35 AM

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ocean quartz You're not initializing things again, that's literally the point of dependency i...

sharing existing instances means initializing pointer that points to the original instance

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which takes 4 bytes of stack space as i remember

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:35 AM

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Wow, so much!

ocean quartz Aug 5, 2021, 8:35 AM

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Oh no, not 4 bytes

distant sun Aug 5, 2021, 8:35 AM

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wow 4 full bytes

ruby dew Aug 5, 2021, 8:36 AM

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lol

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:36 AM

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The point of dependency injection is to protect you from yourself and is a good OOP practice

ruby dew Aug 5, 2021, 8:36 AM

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i mean 4 bytes is still 4 bytes hahaa

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:36 AM

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Hardly

distant sun Aug 5, 2021, 8:36 AM

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^

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:36 AM

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It's not worth saving some bytes over making your program a lot less maintainable and error-prone

ocean quartz Aug 5, 2021, 8:36 AM

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That'll totally mess my 32kb of ram computer that i bought in 1985

distant sun Aug 5, 2021, 8:36 AM

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I think you are the only person occupied of how much memory one DI takes

ruby dew Aug 5, 2021, 8:37 AM

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i mean util class + dependency injection + 4 bytes

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fair

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:37 AM

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What lol

distant sun Aug 5, 2021, 8:37 AM

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This ladies and gentlemen is what too much NMS does to you ^

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:37 AM

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Let me tell you there is virtually no argument to be made against dependency injection with space concerns as the primary issue

barren solar Aug 5, 2021, 8:38 AM

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cinder flare I'd like to take a look possibly and maybe see if they are justified lol

Well the thing is if you look at my typical free release source it'll look hella jank because basically every plugin I release is a tech demo of some new functionality I thought of and haven't seen others do yet. So my typical plugins have code from other projects that isn't utilized, comes packaged with the spigot jar inside of the plugin .jar for easier build dependencies on my end 😂 Some real bad bad practice. But my premium plugins I made sure were very cleaned up lol

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:38 AM

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Wait wait wait, what

ocean quartz Aug 5, 2021, 8:38 AM

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If you want to write error prone code that breaks oop principles go for it

barren solar Aug 5, 2021, 8:38 AM

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No look past it

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:38 AM

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You shade the spigot jar?

barren solar Aug 5, 2021, 8:38 AM

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Shhhhhh

cinder flare Aug 5, 2021, 8:38 AM

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Why on earth would you ever do that

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What does that even accomplish?

distant sun Aug 5, 2021, 8:38 AM

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WhY nOt