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prisma wave Jul 30, 2021, 2:45 PM

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🤢 🤢 🤢

steel heart Jul 30, 2021, 2:46 PM

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Anyways compile time di frameworks are superior

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No reflection overhead like a certain something

ocean quartz Jul 30, 2021, 2:47 PM

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I wonder how hard it'd be to write a compile time di framework

steel heart Jul 30, 2021, 2:47 PM

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Basically lombok

prisma wave Jul 30, 2021, 2:47 PM

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No

steel heart Jul 30, 2021, 2:48 PM

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Yes

prisma wave Jul 30, 2021, 2:48 PM

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Dagger does it in the proper way

steel heart Jul 30, 2021, 2:48 PM

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Yeah true

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So long time since we had a clash of code

prisma wave Jul 30, 2021, 2:48 PM

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Guice doesn't actually do reflection I don't think

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Unless it can't do classgen for some reason

steel heart Jul 30, 2021, 2:49 PM

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I think it does

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Like if you inject fields?

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Or maybe unsafe

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Idk

prisma wave Jul 30, 2021, 2:49 PM

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Oh yeah it has to there probably

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But field injection is bad

steel heart Jul 30, 2021, 2:49 PM

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Indeed

prisma wave Jul 30, 2021, 2:49 PM

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I'm 90% sure constructor injection uses classgen

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For speed

steel heart Jul 30, 2021, 2:49 PM

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Ya good point

frail glade Jul 30, 2021, 3:31 PM

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Kyori honestly has a great collection of stuff for Gradle.

steel heart Jul 30, 2021, 3:57 PM

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Yeah fr

old wyvern Jul 30, 2021, 4:00 PM

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@prisma wave How does scoping work in guice?

prisma wave Jul 30, 2021, 4:02 PM

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in exactly the same way i think

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afaik the api's are pretty much identical

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except some dagger specific stuff

old wyvern Jul 30, 2021, 4:03 PM

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I cant find anything like what I saw in dagger tho

prisma wave Jul 30, 2021, 4:03 PM

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huh idk then

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wdym by scoping

old wyvern Jul 30, 2021, 4:03 PM

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Like for example imagine I have a some client app,
Auth -> (SomeService1, SomeService2, SomeService3)
I want it to reconstruct some dependencies of the services when I start a new scope from auth

prisma wave Jul 30, 2021, 4:04 PM

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oh so like singleton and not-singleton

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you'd just use an annotation i think

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or bind it with .in

old wyvern Jul 30, 2021, 4:04 PM

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Well, it wouldbt be a singleton right?

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The dependencies arent persisting throughout the lifecycler

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They change when you go back to the authentication stage

prisma wave Jul 30, 2021, 4:05 PM

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huh idk then

old wyvern Jul 30, 2021, 4:05 PM

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welp

old wyvern Jul 30, 2021, 4:05 PM

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old wyvern <@!266973575225933824> How does scoping work in guice?

@quiet depot ?^

steel heart Jul 30, 2021, 4:07 PM

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BM, Yugi I need help

old wyvern Jul 30, 2021, 4:08 PM

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Whats up?

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steel heart Jul 30, 2021, 4:09 PM

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I got a discord and they don’t recognize Haskell

prisma wave Jul 30, 2021, 4:09 PM

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😡

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thats unacceptable

steel heart Jul 30, 2021, 4:09 PM

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So I thought you guys could do some fine work there

old wyvern Jul 30, 2021, 4:09 PM

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WHAT

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send

steel heart Jul 30, 2021, 4:10 PM

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Ya invited

ocean quartz Jul 30, 2021, 4:14 PM

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Table of contents parser for a wiki page working 😌
Input:

# Parent header
* Random content from page that'll be ignored
* More random things to get ignored
## Child header
### Grand child header
# Solo parent
# Another parent
## Another child

Output:

Parent header
  Child header
    Grand child header
Solo parent
Another parent
  Another child

steel heart Jul 30, 2021, 4:16 PM

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yayyyy

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 6:15 PM

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oh hey, anyone here noticed any of the Material changes? unless this is just standard Material and IJ's disabled Matom OneDark lol

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but the directory colours have changed, and also, the colouring for Git statuses on files has changed too

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changes to existing files now seem to appear as a light blue, and additions seem to appear as a more yellowy green

distant sun Jul 30, 2021, 6:18 PM

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idk oceanic dark is broken for me and it is very annoying

ocean quartz Jul 30, 2021, 6:22 PM

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Yeah seems like a few things changed

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 6:52 PM

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So, I've been trying to work on a propagation algorithm for chunk tickets for the past few days, but I'm a bit stuck. Basically, the idea is, I place a ticket in that centre chunk at level 22 (marked in the image), and then each row around it propagates out with the level of the neighbour + 1. I know how it works, I've just never done stuff like this before, and I'm not actually sure where to start researching. Would any of you be able to point me in the right direction on where I could learn something like this? (Image: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/minecraft_gamepedia/images/f/f5/Spawn_chunks_range.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/726?cb=20200317084615)

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it's kinda like light propagation, except that diagonals are the same level as the centre neighbour, and the ticket levels increase, rather than decreasing, which is what happens with light levels

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actually, I just saw the term "flood fill" used in a gist describing this system, maybe that might help

potent nest Jul 30, 2021, 7:22 PM

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yeah that's basically just a special case of flood fill

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 7:22 PM

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would you know where I could find any info on that sort of algorithm?

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I've looked around but couldn't really find anything of interest

prisma wave Jul 30, 2021, 7:26 PM

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https://img.bristermitten.me/Overwatch_JUAi5iiJAe.png @obtuse gale this you?

obtuse gale Jul 30, 2021, 7:26 PM

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what

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no lmao

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why xD

prisma wave Jul 30, 2021, 7:26 PM

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#development message

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well you said this and it made me think of you

lunar cypress Jul 30, 2021, 7:27 PM

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helpchat unhinged

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 7:27 PM

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lol

obtuse gale Jul 30, 2021, 7:29 PM

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prisma wave well you said this and it made me think of you

i don't understand but I'll go with "lmao"

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lmao

prisma wave Jul 30, 2021, 7:30 PM

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okay

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thank you for laughing your ass off

obtuse gale Jul 30, 2021, 7:31 PM

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yuo're welcome

potent nest Jul 30, 2021, 7:36 PM

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jovial warren would you know where I could find any info on that sort of algorithm?

pretty sure there's pseudo code on wikipedia. for the basic one, you just check each neighbor point/block/field, and from each of them you do the same again.
For the chunk ticket stuff, you need to keep track of the distance to the center block (something like max(dx,dz) should work)

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 7:40 PM

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alright, cheers

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 7:58 PM

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jovial warren would you know where I could find any info on that sort of algorithm?

The algorithm is pretty easy

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You use some sort of recursive list

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Like a Queue or Stack depending on what you need like LIFO or FIFO etc. Then you add it to that list when recursing from one chunk, and getting neighboring ones

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You can also use a method for this too. For example, you can call a method recursively with the neighboring chunks.

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https://github.com/PulseBeat02/Google-Foo-Bar/blob/master/src/thirdlevel/SolutionTwo.java

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Here’s an example of it when doing one of my FooBar problems. Notice how I keep an array of what the differences in X and Y coordinates are (for example -1,1 etc). Then inside my structure I loop through each of the differences, apply them, check if they are in bounds/valid (or whatever limitation in your case is) and then add them to the structure

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You can create a class to store the current light level, and make one for each block. Then you set the distance it is from the light source using the algorithm described above and it should do it

obtuse gale Jul 30, 2021, 8:05 PM

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forest pecan https://github.com/PulseBeat02/Google-Foo-Bar/blob/master/src/thirdlevel/Solutio...

it's private

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 8:05 PM

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Bruh what

prisma wave Jul 30, 2021, 8:05 PM

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coward

potent nest Jul 30, 2021, 8:05 PM

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Now that I‘m thinking about it, flood fill isn’t even needed because you know exactly what level should be where

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 8:06 PM

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I fixed it

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You could actually probably use a normal for loop and construct it top to down with the pattern it goes like 33, 33,… 33 to 33, 32… 32, 33 etc.

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But that won’t provide a good lighting effect like if you send them to the client it’s obvious they start from the top to down rather than middle to out

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So it might look weird

old wyvern Jul 30, 2021, 8:11 PM

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Wouldnt a floored distance algo be enough?

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Or not hmm

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Make the x or y coordinate equal to the central point and take the distance for each cell, substract from weight of center

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 8:25 PM

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Yeah. Start from (-D, -D) then loop to (D, D) while excluding when D=0

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Then add those values to the middle cell

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That’s for each of the layers

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 8:30 PM

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alright, thanks for your help guys

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I just have two questions

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what about, say, if I needed a certain area of chunks, say 11 x 11, to all have the same level, and then propagate around that
for moving players changing which chunks are at which levels, would it be better to completely recalculate every time a player moves? or could I do something with propagating the levels down/up in the directions where they need to?

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I know these are very implementation-specific, but it's always the actual implementation that I struggle with

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 8:51 PM

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how would people recommend setting up a rest API that you need to give a list to?
something like link/to/api/opt1/opt2/opt3 etc, or adding to json to the url, or a header, or what?>

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I'd make it post, but I'm returning a file

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and that seems wrong, right?

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 8:52 PM

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give a list to?

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just give each option as a query param

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 8:52 PM

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basically it returns a file generated from a list of items

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and I don't know the size

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of the list

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it could be zero

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it could be 50

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 8:52 PM

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link/to/api?opt1=0&opt2=1&opt3=5

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 8:53 PM

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so programatically keep going until opt69 or whatever is missing?

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 8:53 PM

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actually, not sure

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 8:53 PM

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seems janky lol

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 9:01 PM

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old wyvern Wouldnt a floored distance algo be enough?

you got any examples by any chance of an implementation of one of those? since I ain't got a fucking clue where to even start

lunar cypress Jul 30, 2021, 9:02 PM

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eternal compass I'd make it post, but I'm returning a file

can you elaborate on the purpose of the endpoint

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:02 PM

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lunar cypress can you elaborate on the purpose of the endpoint

generate a zip file of a bunch of random stuff

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(defined by the arguments)

lunar cypress Jul 30, 2021, 9:02 PM

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what are the arguments exactly

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:03 PM

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wdym the arguments? the list elements?

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they're all strings

lunar cypress Jul 30, 2021, 9:03 PM

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just random shit

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no special meaning

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:03 PM

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well, they do, but I add them other ways, so I can't hard code them all

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or tell you them all

lunar cypress Jul 30, 2021, 9:04 PM

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no that part is obvious I'm just trying to understand what you want to do exactly

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 9:04 PM

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forest pecan Yeah. Start from (-D, -D) then loop to (D, D) while excluding when D=0

my apologies if I've missed something here, but what's D in this context?

lunar cypress Jul 30, 2021, 9:04 PM

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Because that is an important factor in design

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:04 PM

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lunar cypress no that part is obvious I'm just trying to understand what you want to do exactl...

I need to on my (Typescript) API recieved a list of items

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and I need to be able to send it from a website

lunar cypress Jul 30, 2021, 9:05 PM

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Not what I'm talking about, whatever

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But currently, from what I can gather it seems like it'd be your best option to encode the list as a string in a single query param

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:05 PM

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okay, that was one idea I had, but I wasn't sure if it was practical

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so add some sort of break character

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and encode them?

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eg. string[].join("%").atob() or whatever its called

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(I can guarentee they don't have %s in them)

lunar cypress Jul 30, 2021, 9:07 PM

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what does atob do

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you need to url encode it

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:07 PM

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lunar cypress what does atob do

its uh base64

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I think

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:07 PM

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lunar cypress you need to url encode it

that too

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okayt

lunar cypress Jul 30, 2021, 9:07 PM

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Well I guess you can do base64 but there is no need for that really

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how long do you expect this list to be anyway

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:08 PM

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lunar cypress how long do you expect this list to be anyway

up to 50

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:08 PM

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lunar cypress Well I guess you can do base64 but there is no need for that really

ah true

lunar cypress Jul 30, 2021, 9:08 PM

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and each element is how long

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:08 PM

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up to like 12 chars

lunar cypress Jul 30, 2021, 9:09 PM

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all right

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:21 PM

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jovial warren my apologies if I've missed something here, but what's `D` in this context?

D is the distance from the center

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Correction: it means dick

static zealot Jul 30, 2021, 9:24 PM

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pretty sure it will end at one point with you dying.

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:25 PM

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static zealot pretty sure it will end at one point with you dying.

he'd run out of nutrients

static zealot Jul 30, 2021, 9:26 PM

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yeah. I Think that will be his last problem

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you're basically eating all the poison you just got rid of

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:27 PM

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well no, its not poison, its just not digestable

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:27 PM

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It is poison technically lol

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:27 PM

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poison comes out in urine

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:27 PM

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You get food poisoning

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:27 PM

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food poisoning isn't actual poison mostly

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:28 PM

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eternal compass poison comes out in urine

Not true actually. In fact you can drink your urine and it’s much safer than shit

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Urine is like 97% water

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:28 PM

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eternal compass food poisoning isn't actual poison mostly

Yeah ig but I think that’s what he meant lol

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:28 PM

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forest pecan Urine is like 97% water

but the other like 3% is the stuff your body is getting rid of in your liver, that is toxic waste

static zealot Jul 30, 2021, 9:28 PM

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eternal compass food poisoning isn't actual poison mostly

well. not poison. but still. it does contain some weird bacteria that is meant to be in your intestines not on your mouth

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so its not going to be good for you anyways

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:28 PM

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static zealot well. not poison. but still. it does contain some weird bacteria that is meant t...

yogurt is bacteria

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:29 PM

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static zealot so its not going to be good for you anyways

I never said that :p

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:29 PM

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eternal compass but the other like 3% is the stuff your body is getting rid of in your liver, th...

Well at least it’s not shit

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Which is like 99999% bacteria

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Lmfao

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:29 PM

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eh

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:29 PM

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Your body can kill the 3% easily

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But the shit? That’s gonna be a big load

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:29 PM

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thats how they restart your intenstines bacteria! making you (basically) eat other peoples

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not actually eat

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but they inject it

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its wierd

static zealot Jul 30, 2021, 9:29 PM

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I love eating other people

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:29 PM

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me aswell

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:29 PM

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Mmm

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Cannablism

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:30 PM

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Baked Blitz

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I can't spell

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;-;

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:30 PM

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Apparently cannablism like slowly destroys your brain though lol

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:30 PM

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it also quickly destroys the person you eat's brain

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🧠

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 9:30 PM

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oh btw, is there anyone here who knows of a library that you can use to create a table like https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/minecraft_gamepedia/images/f/f5/Spawn_chunks_range.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/726?cb=20200317084615 programatically?

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:30 PM

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Lmfao

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Bardy just use the loop technique

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Here:

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:31 PM

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thats what I was gonna say lol

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 9:31 PM

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what if I have my table ordered from the centre outwards though?

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:32 PM

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loop through, them order them in a hashmap (order : value), then sort by value, then loop

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then re assign by order

static zealot Jul 30, 2021, 9:32 PM

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freddy u suck

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:32 PM

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hm?

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were you typing that

static zealot Jul 30, 2021, 9:32 PM

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ma dick!!

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gottem

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:32 PM

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ah you were typing that

static zealot Jul 30, 2021, 9:32 PM

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couldn't have seen that coming

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:33 PM

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eternal compass loop through, them order them in a hashmap (order : value), then sort by value, ...

anyway @jovial warren try this, its simple :p

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and no need for a library

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not even a bookshelf

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:33 PM

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for (int D = 1; D < 35; D++)
for (int x = -D; x <= D; x++)
for (int y = -D; y <= D; y++)
if (x == 0 || y == 0) return;
Point newPoint = new Point( middle.x + x, middle.y + y)

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Idk what that logic is Fred

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Lmfao

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:33 PM

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my logix is gud

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I swaer

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:33 PM

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Doesn’t make sense

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:33 PM

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to order them

static zealot Jul 30, 2021, 9:33 PM

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jovial warren oh btw, is there anyone here who knows of a library that you can use to create a...

why don't you just use the Cho Con method tho???

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:34 PM

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for an actual loop

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that is by number

static zealot Jul 30, 2021, 9:34 PM

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its so easy

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 9:34 PM

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forest pecan for (int D = 1; D < 35; D++) for (int x = -D; x <= D; x++) for (int y = -...

what's that for? drawing the table?

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:34 PM

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Yes

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Middle to out

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:34 PM

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static zealot why don't you just use the Cho Con method tho???

Cho Con These Balls ha

static zealot Jul 30, 2021, 9:34 PM

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man... Cho Con method is the best.

static zealot Jul 30, 2021, 9:34 PM

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eternal compass Cho Con These Balls ha

shut up nerd

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 9:35 PM

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is that Point meant to be the java.awt Point?

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:35 PM

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D actually will never be 0 so that conditional is unnecessary

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:35 PM

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jovial warren is that `Point` meant to be the java.awt `Point`?

It’s just a place holder class

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For storing X Y point

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 9:35 PM

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alright

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:35 PM

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You can change it to whatever cell you need

static zealot Jul 30, 2021, 9:35 PM

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@eternal compass I heard you're friends with Rydon. I heard you also love to Rydon this dick

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:36 PM

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you really gotta work on your jokes... you gave away the punchline while telling it!

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:36 PM

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jovial warren alright

I forgot some <= signs

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Seems good now? Haven’t tested cause I typed that out on phone

static zealot Jul 30, 2021, 9:36 PM

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eternal compass you really gotta work on your jokes... you gave away the punchline while telling...

well the thing is, I knew you will not fall for it. so I didn't give you a choice at all

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xD

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k. Bye now. Going to watch Major Grom

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:37 PM

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thats not falling for it... I red the answer before the joke lmao

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:37 PM

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Fred what’s hamood backwards

distant sun Jul 30, 2021, 9:37 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/X1QBPWT.png why is this shit so big

Imgur

static zealot Jul 30, 2021, 9:37 PM

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eternal compass thats not falling for it... I red the answer before the joke lmao

yes I know. that's why I've red the answer before the joke

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 9:37 PM

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then what do I do with all these points?

static zealot Jul 30, 2021, 9:38 PM

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distant sun https://i.imgur.com/X1QBPWT.png why is this shit so big

that's what she said

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 9:38 PM

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how do I print them into a table?

static zealot Jul 30, 2021, 9:38 PM

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when she was taking a shit

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:38 PM

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jovial warren then what do I do with all these points?

Based on D, set the light level

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:38 PM

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static zealot yes I know. that's why I've red the answer before the joke

I miss spelled it

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aokayt

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ahhh

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:38 PM

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D is the distance from the center

static zealot Jul 30, 2021, 9:38 PM

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eternal compass I miss spelled it

anyway.s going to watch Major Grom now.

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:38 PM

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I'm going back to parsing markdown in javascript ;-;

static zealot Jul 30, 2021, 9:38 PM

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I really want you to ask me

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what is Major Grom

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if you couldn't tell

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:39 PM

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okay

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:39 PM

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eternal compass I'm going back to parsing markdown in javascript ;-;

What’s hamood backwards

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:39 PM

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;-;

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:39 PM

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Lol

static zealot Jul 30, 2021, 9:39 PM

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eternal compass okay

its a movie on netflix if you care.

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:39 PM

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cool

static zealot Jul 30, 2021, 9:39 PM

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man... tomorrow I'll be switching from KDE Plasma but I will really miss the Kontrol app. or whatever the name is

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 9:39 PM

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forest pecan Based on D, set the light level

I don't quite get it, all I wanna do is turn it in to a table like this: ```
1 1 1 1 1
1 2 2 2 1
1 2 3 2 1
1 2 2 2 1
1 1 1 1 1

static zealot Jul 30, 2021, 9:40 PM

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the Kde Connect one

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:40 PM

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Doomah 🥜 fit ⏬ ▶️ 👄

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:40 PM

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jovial warren I don't quite get it, all I wanna do is turn it in to a table like this: ``` 1 1...

Yes that is the point. Think about the algorithm the loop creates

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When the x and y value is changed you get the Points that are D distance away from the center. For example at first if it’s 1 then it loops through the points that are exactly 1 distance away counting corners

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This means that the light level would be the light level - 1

prisma wave Jul 30, 2021, 9:41 PM

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static zealot the Kde Connect one

you can still get it

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you can run KDE apps on any distro / DE

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 9:41 PM

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Then the light level for the block in general is the light level - D

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(And d is in the loop shown above in the code)

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🧠

ocean quartz Jul 30, 2021, 9:43 PM

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eternal compass I'm going back to parsing markdown in javascript ;-;

JS 😬
There are some libs for it i think

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:44 PM

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I'm using one

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also ts

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:44 PM

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ocean quartz JS 😬 There are some libs for it i think

I'm using Remark React-Markdown, but I don't get any <br>s for Returns (\n), which is annoying af

ocean quartz Jul 30, 2021, 9:45 PM

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The way i do it is, i get the md from GitHub on the backend, parse it to html in the backend then save it to the database, then just return the html on api call

eternal compass Jul 30, 2021, 9:46 PM

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I parse it via react markdown which works fine, except for returns

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and I'm confused

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I even have the remark breaks addon

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<ReactMarkdown remarkPlugins={[remarkBreaks]}>{popupText}</ReactMarkdown>

ocean quartz Jul 30, 2021, 10:03 PM

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Ayy now most features are ready, md to sidebar, md to html content, and md to table of content 😌

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now the designing 🥲

steel heart Jul 30, 2021, 10:04 PM

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smiling_face_with_3_tears

cinder flare Jul 30, 2021, 10:17 PM

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ocean quartz *now the designing 🥲*

the hardest part!

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but hey i bet you'll do good

winter iron Jul 30, 2021, 10:20 PM

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Is world generation safe to do async

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?

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I am making new worlds for my mazes and Its hanging the server for 2-3 seconds when i create a world

distant sun Jul 30, 2021, 10:21 PM

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ocean quartz Ayy now most features are ready, md to sidebar, md to html content, and md to ta...

👏

winter iron Jul 30, 2021, 10:21 PM

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i don't want to hang

cinder flare Jul 30, 2021, 10:23 PM

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i mean

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try it and see

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maybe you can figure out what spigot never could

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 10:24 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/hv6j3O3.png bit of stack overflow and I finally have it lol

Imgur

flameshot_screenshot

distant sun Jul 30, 2021, 10:27 PM

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nice, nice

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 10:32 PM

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Gj

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What algorithm?

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 10:32 PM

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lemme show you the algorithm I originally came up with a couple of weeks ago maybe that actually worked the whole time pretty much

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const val VIEW = 5
const val ETL = 31

fun main() {
    val offsetX = Random.nextInt(40)
    val offsetZ = Random.nextInt(40)
    println("X: $offsetX, Z: $offsetZ")
    val center = ChunkPosition(offsetX, offsetZ)
    val centerLevel = ETL - VIEW
    val area = (VIEW * 2 + 7) * (VIEW * 2 + 7)
    for (i in 0 until area) {
        val pos = chunkInSpiral(i, offsetX, offsetZ)
        val deltaX = pos.x - center.x
        val deltaZ = pos.z - center.z
        val level = level(absDelta(deltaX, deltaZ), centerLevel)
        println("Level at ${pos.x}, ${pos.z} = $level")
    }
}

private fun absDelta(deltaX: Int, deltaZ: Int): Int {
    if (deltaX == 0 && deltaZ == 0) return 0
    return max(abs(deltaX), abs(deltaZ))
}

private fun level(absDelta: Int, center: Int): Int = if (absDelta >= 0) center + absDelta else center - absDelta

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with a few modifications to fix me not using chunkInSpiral correctly lol

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 10:34 PM

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Ic

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 10:34 PM

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VIEW is the view distance btw

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VIEW * 2 + 1 is the diameter of the player's regular visible chunks, but that +7 there is because there's 3 chunks in either direction iirc that have the different levels

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though what I actually need is for it to propagate all the way out to the maximum level of 44

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so I've just modified it to use a while (true) and break when we get a level above 44

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https://paste.helpch.at/beramuwomu.pl this is the modified version

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what still confuses me though is why vanilla's is a bit more complicated than that

forest pecan Jul 30, 2021, 10:38 PM

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Did you get SO for forgetting to break

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Lol

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 10:38 PM

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SO?

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oh, nope

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https://paste.helpch.at/qavadiraju.java here's vanilla's btw

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you might be able to see what's going on better than I can lol

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https://paste.helpch.at/ayopubuyet.java this has a few more things that will probably be useful also

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I'm actually just curious about what kind of algorithm that is tbh

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I mean, bare in mind though, that DynamicGraphMinFixedPoint is shared between ChunkTracker, SectionTracker (for POI stuff), and the lighting engine

distant sun Jul 30, 2021, 10:43 PM

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Question, does CharSequence#matches(Regex) (kt) work like Matcher#find (java)?

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 10:44 PM

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yes

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matches checks if the sequence matches the given regex

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though I think it would probably be closer to Matcher#matches than Matcher#find

distant sun Jul 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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that's why im asking cuz I don't need to know if it is exact that pattern

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Returns true if this char sequence matches the given regular expression.

ocean quartz Jul 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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cinder flare but hey i bet you'll do good

Something like that 🥲

distant sun Jul 30, 2021, 10:47 PM

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jovial warren though I think it would probably be closer to `Matcher#matches` than `Matcher#fi...

you are right

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so I guess there's no extension for find()

jovial warren Jul 30, 2021, 10:49 PM

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what are you trying to do?

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you can replace a while (matcher.find()) with regex.findAll()

distant sun Jul 30, 2021, 10:50 PM

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nah not that, was just looking for a shorter version of Pattern#compile#matcher#find

forest pecan Jul 31, 2021, 12:52 AM

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What do you guys in place of Collection when returning something with items in it

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I use HashSet and add the item inside via ImmutableSet some times, but im just wondering what people do

cinder flare Jul 31, 2021, 12:53 AM

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tuple

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🤤

rotund egret Jul 31, 2021, 12:53 AM

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Kotlin pair

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Or if it's big enough I'll use a data class

cinder flare Jul 31, 2021, 12:54 AM

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this is exactly why tuples exist

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i wonder if Kotlin has them yet

ocean quartz Jul 31, 2021, 12:54 AM

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Used to have

cinder flare Jul 31, 2021, 12:54 AM

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fucking what

ocean quartz Jul 31, 2021, 12:54 AM

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Will have again in the future

cinder flare Jul 31, 2021, 12:55 AM

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oh cool

forest pecan Jul 31, 2021, 12:55 AM

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Java has tuples right?

cinder flare Jul 31, 2021, 12:55 AM

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uh I don't think so

forest pecan Jul 31, 2021, 12:56 AM

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Oh

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Oof

cinder flare Jul 31, 2021, 12:56 AM

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ah there's a Javatuples library lmao

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slap that bad boy in your maven and you're good to go it claims!

forest pecan Jul 31, 2021, 12:56 AM

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Oh lol

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also i dont use maven

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only 🤡s do

cinder flare Jul 31, 2021, 12:56 AM

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i mean neither do i

forest pecan Jul 31, 2021, 12:56 AM

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good

cinder flare Jul 31, 2021, 12:57 AM

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that's just what their website says

forest pecan Jul 31, 2021, 12:57 AM

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Oh

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lmfao

cinder flare Jul 31, 2021, 12:57 AM

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Triplet<String, Integer, Double> triplet = Triplet.with("hello", 23, 1.2);

onyx loom Jul 31, 2021, 12:57 AM

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sounds like smth vavr would have

cinder flare Jul 31, 2021, 12:57 AM

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wtf is vavr

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https://i.imgur.com/3AiD4JU.png

Imgur

onyx loom Jul 31, 2021, 12:57 AM

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functional java

cinder flare Jul 31, 2021, 12:57 AM

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Kali you brilliant man

onyx loom Jul 31, 2021, 12:57 AM

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🤤

rotund egret Jul 31, 2021, 12:58 AM

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Kotlin has tuples still wym

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It's part of Pair

cinder flare Jul 31, 2021, 12:58 AM

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i think pair is just a separate thing

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you can't make arbitrary tuples

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// (Java, 8)
Tuple2<String, Integer> java8 = Tuple.of("Java", 8); 

// "Java"
String s = java8._1; 

// 8
Integer i = java8._2; ```

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oh ew

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i hate underscore naming

rotund egret Jul 31, 2021, 12:59 AM

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Wym?

onyx loom Jul 31, 2021, 1:00 AM

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i feel like for Tuple2 they shouldve done .first and .second, like kotlin pair

cinder flare Jul 31, 2021, 1:00 AM

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rotund egret Wym?

you can't make an arbitrary size tuple

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they only have like pair and triplet

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you can't make a (String, Int, String, Int, String, Int, String)

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so it's not real tuples

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at least, that's what I gathered from some blog post in 2012

ocean quartz Jul 31, 2021, 1:04 AM

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rotund egret Kotlin has tuples still wym

Not exactly, it used to have, for example fun test(): #(String, Int) but they were removed
Pair isn't the same I mean you can make a pair in Java

class Pair<A, B> {}

onyx loom Jul 31, 2021, 1:05 AM

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yeah now all in java is to have an infix function to easily create pairs 🥲

cinder flare Jul 31, 2021, 1:05 AM

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lets just add tuples already

half harness Jul 31, 2021, 1:42 AM

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#860006856864169985 message
jeez, 9k for a translation

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time to learn Turkish now 🥲 /s

half harness Jul 31, 2021, 2:13 AM

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Argh why am i keep getting my project files deleted

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this time i uploaded everything to github before i changed anything, so im safe

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but if i didn't upload that to github... the last time i uploaded to github was a while ago 💀

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 2:43 AM

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webpack typescript no type checking ;-;

addon: string = input;
typeof (<string | number>addon;

l need to cast it to <string | number> so that my IDE doesn't freak out at a un needed check lol

forest pecan Jul 31, 2021, 3:31 AM

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why does intellij read your commit names and if it has a swear it complains "inappropriate word!", then recommends "piss off". I wrote "shit"

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lmfao

old wyvern Jul 31, 2021, 6:39 AM

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Im sorry, what?!

distant sun Jul 31, 2021, 8:04 AM

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time to learn turkish

ruby dew Jul 31, 2021, 8:54 AM

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lets speed run turkish

lime ember Jul 31, 2021, 8:55 AM

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Google translate👌

ocean quartz Jul 31, 2021, 9:02 AM

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eternal compass webpack typescript no type checking ;-; ```ts addon: string = input; typeof (<st...

Classic dynamically typed mess kek

distant sun Jul 31, 2021, 9:32 AM

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See you in 2 days

lime ember Jul 31, 2021, 10:48 AM

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Do you know how the installer from lunar or badlion client work?
I think they patch the vanilla jar or something like that but I don't know how to do it myself...

prisma wave Jul 31, 2021, 10:52 AM

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cinder flare https://i.imgur.com/3AiD4JU.png

😌 😌

steel heart Jul 31, 2021, 11:36 AM

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https://drama.essentialsx.net/eyJzZW50ZW5jZSI6MTYyLCJzaXRlcyI6WzJdLCJ0aGluZ3MiOls3XSwiZm9ya3MiOlsyXX0= this site still gold 😌

Spigot Drama Generator

Trending on Twitter!

Reddit hard forks GroupManager

wind patio Jul 31, 2021, 12:37 PM

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Unpopular opinion
Five hours of coding will save you 5 minutes of reading documentation

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fingerguns

steel heart Jul 31, 2021, 12:49 PM

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🥲

ocean quartz Jul 31, 2021, 2:05 PM

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@distant sun Smh my head, I wonder who made the typo

static zealot Jul 31, 2021, 2:13 PM

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me

distant sun Jul 31, 2021, 2:13 PM

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I KNOW I DID SMH

static zealot Jul 31, 2021, 2:14 PM

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what typo?

distant sun Jul 31, 2021, 2:14 PM

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I put it on there so I don't forget

jovial warren Jul 31, 2021, 2:16 PM

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ocean quartz <@!207575115616092161> Smh my head, I wonder who made the typo

I don't see the typo 🥲

ocean quartz Jul 31, 2021, 2:31 PM

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It's not there, it's in the file

jovial warren Jul 31, 2021, 2:35 PM

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https://github.com/TriumphTeam/triumph-gui/pull/19/commits/d1aba402fd07f506455d4975c55f1456e71bf593#diff-b6c094caa76aa6dc903f2654823b0d4daab81d2b81469e9041147692ac6b1069R150 this seems like the only typo I can find in this thing lol

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nice Javadocs you got there mate 🙂

ocean quartz Jul 31, 2021, 2:37 PM

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https://github.com/TriumphTeam/triumph-gui/issues/25

jovial warren Jul 31, 2021, 2:37 PM

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oh, that, lol

ocean quartz Jul 31, 2021, 2:38 PM

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What typo is in the link you sent?

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Oh it's missing the {

jovial warren Jul 31, 2021, 2:39 PM

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@link MapBuilder}

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yeah

ocean quartz Jul 31, 2021, 2:39 PM

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Smh Gaby

jovial warren Jul 31, 2021, 2:39 PM

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not sure how I picked up on that one and missed the more obvious one though lol

ocean quartz Jul 31, 2021, 2:46 PM

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Just found out about this window, quite cool

hot hull Jul 31, 2021, 2:52 PM

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old wyvern Im sorry, **what?!**

Did you see the 300k budget one a while back?

jovial warren Jul 31, 2021, 2:57 PM

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300k? for what?

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you could buy a fucking house with that

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well, in my area, you'd be fucking lucky to find a house that cheap, but in most places, yeah, you could buy a house with that

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also, https://i.imgur.com/Nj2iA4M.png my algorithm now also handles overlaps properly \o/

Imgur

flameshot_screenshot

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sorry, I just thought that was cool

winter iron Jul 31, 2021, 2:59 PM

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why buy a house when u can just build one in minecraft?

jovial warren Jul 31, 2021, 2:59 PM

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winter iron why buy a house when u can just build one in minecraft?

man, this guy is like 200 IQ right here

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the only thing I'm worried about with my algorithm is the fact that I have to completely start a fresh every time and recalculate everything

ruby dew Jul 31, 2021, 3:01 PM

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its just a budget lmao

jovial warren Jul 31, 2021, 3:01 PM

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and the thing that (I think) is the most expensive here is the spiral function that gets the neighbour positions

ruby dew Jul 31, 2021, 3:01 PM

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i have 1 trillion budget yet i wont spend a cent on you lmao

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thats what the dudes were implying

hot hull Jul 31, 2021, 3:05 PM

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jovial warren well, in my area, you'd be fucking lucky to find a house that cheap, but in most...

Okay no need to "flex" mr I forgot where you live

jovial warren Jul 31, 2021, 3:05 PM

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that wasn't actually me attempting to flex, just seemed to turn out that way

hot hull Jul 31, 2021, 3:05 PM

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ruby dew i have 1 trillion budget yet i wont spend a cent on you lmao

sad_fingerguns

jovial warren Jul 31, 2021, 3:05 PM

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I was just making a comment lol

hot hull Jul 31, 2021, 3:06 PM

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Bardy, I'm messing with you, 300k for a house ain't a lot

ruby dew Jul 31, 2021, 3:06 PM

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hot hull <:sad_fingerguns:737200358694060123>

reversed_fingerguns

hot hull Jul 31, 2021, 3:07 PM

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Do you not want to spend at least a dolar on me?

jovial warren Jul 31, 2021, 3:07 PM

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hot hull Bardy, I'm messing with you, 300k for a house ain't a lot

depends in what currency I suppose

hot hull Jul 31, 2021, 3:07 PM

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Well euro, but that's even more for you

jovial warren Jul 31, 2021, 3:07 PM

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£300,000 is a lot of money

ruby dew Jul 31, 2021, 3:08 PM

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hot hull Do you not want to spend at least a dolar on me?

i will if you buy me a house or sth'

hot hull Jul 31, 2021, 3:08 PM

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Or wait, is pound more than euro, or not

jovial warren Jul 31, 2021, 3:08 PM

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not yet I don't think

ruby dew Jul 31, 2021, 3:08 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/849225632965722167/869566793277116466/b86.gif?width=965&height=630

obtuse gale Jul 31, 2021, 3:13 PM

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lime ember Do you know how the installer from lunar or badlion client work? I think they pa...

Yes lunar loads optifine and there patches into the vanilla client

half harness Jul 31, 2021, 3:17 PM

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hot hull Did you see the 300k budget one a while back?

#860006856864169985 message unlimited 👀

lime ember Jul 31, 2021, 3:26 PM

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obtuse gale Yes lunar loads optifine and there patches into the vanilla client

Do you know how that works?
Or are there any tutorials or smth like that

ruby dew Jul 31, 2021, 3:28 PM

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these guys are living ahead of time
imagine unlimited budget

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 3:33 PM

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ocean quartz Classic dynamically typed mess kek

;-;

old wyvern Jul 31, 2021, 3:37 PM

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jovial warren you could buy a fucking house with that

I read that as "you could buy a fucking horse with that" 😂

jovial warren Jul 31, 2021, 3:40 PM

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:kekw:

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https://i.imgur.com/q8XlHJf.png now that is what you call a nice visualisation

Imgur

flameshot_screenshot

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well, for AWT anyway lol

hot hull Jul 31, 2021, 4:08 PM

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Ew

jovial warren Jul 31, 2021, 4:44 PM

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maybe it's time to re-design my algorithm...

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pay close attention to the far right side as the player moves, notice that no levels are getting yeeted

ocean quartz Jul 31, 2021, 6:14 PM

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Which bg color is better?

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 6:19 PM

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ocean quartz Which bg color is better?

#1 def

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Also- is this OS? I was a bit confused on how you implemented that cache thing

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Since mine exploded

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Or similar

ocean quartz Jul 31, 2021, 6:19 PM

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Yeah https://github.com/TriumphTeam/website

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 6:20 PM

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Thanks

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 6:21 PM

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You finally releasing this GitBook alternative?

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 6:21 PM

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Gitbook alternative 😌

ocean quartz Jul 31, 2021, 6:21 PM

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Kinda it's personal, idk if I can make it public
I would if I spent more time creating an editing system, right now the only way to edit the data is through github

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 6:22 PM

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Ahh

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 6:22 PM

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I might make smth like that at some point actually, sounds semi-easy.
Just parse Markdown files and boom :p

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And markdown parsing is surprisingly easy

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RemarkJS has a react plugin

ocean quartz Jul 31, 2021, 6:23 PM

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System I have is pretty simple
Any folder will become a project

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 6:23 PM

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Aha

ocean quartz Jul 31, 2021, 6:23 PM

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For a project to be validated it needs a SUMMARY.md file

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That'll turn into the side bar

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Then every other file will be a page, which you have to link to in the summary

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 6:24 PM

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Do you plan to host a public demo?

ocean quartz Jul 31, 2021, 6:24 PM

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Yeah

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 6:25 PM

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Well it's the docs for triumph, no?

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Also what's the backend for?

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My backend is integrated with my front end, which is... intresting. It'd basically 2 ts projects in one

ocean quartz Jul 31, 2021, 6:26 PM

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Yeah
And the backend handles everything, github cloning, project creating, summary md parsing, page md to html parsing, etc
Instead of handing that on the client, the backend saves it all and then just simple api call and you can get everything, which makes it super fast

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 6:26 PM

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Oh and no react create app

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 6:26 PM

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ocean quartz Yeah And the backend handles everything, github cloning, project creating, summa...

Ah

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I basically have a custom web server though, its... intresting

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And it caches like 50+ jar files for quick download :p

ocean quartz Jul 31, 2021, 6:28 PM

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All the data is stored like this

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 6:29 PM

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Fancy

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Mine is just a simple rest api + static (react) site

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And a file generator

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For the response

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 6:30 PM

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What'd you make?

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 6:30 PM

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Me?

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I'm replacing bentoboxworld's download site that's built in python atm, and is really finicky. Stealing the style though, as I'm not a designer

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Current: https://download.bentobox.world

ocean quartz Jul 31, 2021, 6:31 PM

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I'd hate to do it like that, it's already awful enough to work in the front end with TS, can't imagine handling everything else like that 😬

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 6:31 PM

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Well, yeah

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 6:31 PM

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Ahh are you rewriting a new one for him?

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 6:31 PM

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ocean quartz I'd hate to do it like that, it's already awful enough to work in the front end ...

Jenkins is annoying af to deal with, since there are no wrappers that are in ts

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 6:32 PM

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What are you doing with Jenkins?

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 6:32 PM

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frail glade Ahh are you rewriting a new one for him?

Yeah. The main goal is configurableness, as the previous one is mostly static

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 6:32 PM

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frail glade What are you doing with Jenkins?

Adding dev build support

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:p

jovial warren Jul 31, 2021, 6:32 PM

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ffs why can't I make a simple fucking floor fill algorithm

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https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/minecraft_gamepedia/images/f/f5/Spawn_chunks_range.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/726?cb=20200317084615 writing an algorithm that can do this shouldn't be this annoyingly difficult

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 6:33 PM

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Can you not just use an npm module for Jenkins with ts?

obtuse gale Jul 31, 2021, 6:33 PM

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hmm I can use AutoCloseable as an exception friendly runnable

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/721961861100077087.png

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 6:34 PM

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frail glade Can you not just use an npm module for Jenkins with ts?

I'd need to write it a .d.ts file

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And I'm lazy

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 6:35 PM

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Ahh

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 6:35 PM

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So I'm building my own

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Maybe I'll publish it

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jenkins-ts

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(Not for pushing builds, just the public api)

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 6:36 PM

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I have no idea if it exists, but would be cool, is if you could take a JSON string and throw it into something and it would spit out a possible Java object that could serialize and deserialize that string with gson or whatever.

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 6:37 PM

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Doesn't gson have that?

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Deserialize to class

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Oh wait

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I missread

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Well typescript has that :p

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Someone made one

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I use it for my configs

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 6:38 PM

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Yeah it has deserialize but that would be cool if it could generate a class from a given string

potent nest Jul 31, 2021, 6:39 PM

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obtuse gale hmm I can use `AutoCloseable` as an exception friendly runnable

cursed

obtuse gale Jul 31, 2021, 6:39 PM

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PepeLa

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 6:40 PM

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frail glade Yeah it has deserialize but that would be cool if it could generate a class from...

Should I make this? I could just make json object creator, and support Java, ts, and whatever else

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 6:40 PM

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That would be pretty useful IMO if it doesn't exist.

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 6:40 PM

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Yeah I'll do some googling first

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But if not

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Next Project™️

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 6:42 PM

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👍

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 7:18 PM

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frail glade That would be pretty useful IMO if it doesn't exist.

https://www.jsonschema2pojo.org/ seems to be something similar, but it uses a lot of annotations and such, so maybe a more manual one?

jsonschema2pojo

Generate Plain Old Java Objects from JSON or JSON-Schema.

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 7:21 PM

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Oh this actually did it somewhat decently.

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 7:21 PM

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yeah

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and theres already a typescript one that works perfectly

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so later

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 7:22 PM

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I'm working on a subtitles feature for Holovid so I was just so annoyed trying to work with the YouTube captions API that I said screw json and I went with XML instead.

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 7:22 PM

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lol

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xml is meh

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I love json over xml/yaml though

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 7:22 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/api/timedtext?lang=en&v=zhWDdy_5v2w&fmt=json3

Cause look at this.

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 7:22 PM

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ahhh

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my eyes

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 7:22 PM

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Yeah

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 7:22 PM

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yeah use that jsonschema thing

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 7:22 PM

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And that's for a 30 second video iirc

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 7:23 PM

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find a 2 hour video to generate the json

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 7:23 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/api/timedtext?lang=en&v=zhWDdy_5v2w&fmt=srv1

I went with this instead.

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 7:23 PM

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then it'l be better

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oh easier

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Took like 20 lines of code to convert it into Java objects that I wanted to work with.

distant sun Jul 31, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Damn

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 7:24 PM

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frail glade Took like 20 lines of code to convert it into Java objects that I wanted to work...

regex?

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 7:24 PM

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Are you in Syscraft Fred?

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 7:24 PM

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yessir

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 7:24 PM

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#739708755767329350 message

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 7:25 PM

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fancy

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but why no maps?

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or whats the texture pack for

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 7:25 PM

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Audio

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 7:25 PM

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ah

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you could use noteblocks and make it just audio-like without it ig

distant sun Jul 31, 2021, 7:25 PM

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Whats Syscraft?

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 7:25 PM

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And we also will be shipping a font in the pack with audio that makes it look a lot nicer. Still talking about how we plan to do that.

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 7:26 PM

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discord.gg/syscraft

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 7:26 PM

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Why do noteblocks when we literally have audio working?

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 7:26 PM

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thats fair

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but it requires a resource pack

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 7:27 PM

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So? We handle it for them for the time being.

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It's generated on-demand.

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Sent to all players in range for the screen.

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 7:28 PM

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how does it work with another resource pack?

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 7:28 PM

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I suppose noteblocks could be an option if they don't want to have a resource pack

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 7:28 PM

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(eg. a server default one)

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 7:29 PM

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frail glade I suppose noteblocks could be an option if they don't want to have a resource pa...

right

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 7:29 PM

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Yeah that's what we haven't came up with yet. Most likely wouldn't work.

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 7:29 PM

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frail glade And we also will be shipping a font in the pack with audio that makes it look a ...

you know MC now allows text with a specific font to be defined?
that could be useful

distant sun Jul 31, 2021, 7:29 PM

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Looks nice

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 7:29 PM

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We're working on a pipeline limitation right now on the client end and seeing how we can optimize the packets. It currently saturated it too much at 144p.

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But yeah when we sync the subtitles I think it'll be pretty cool.

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That way you don't even need audio.

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 7:32 PM

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right

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and subtitles are the only one that would work on twitch, right?

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since it doesn't have predefined audio

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 7:33 PM

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I haven't even looked into that tbh

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We're doing a couple things right now.

drop ProtocolLib
fix client sync audio issues at higher resolution
general cleanup and subtitles

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 7:37 PM

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why drop ProtocolLib?

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everyone already has it

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 7:39 PM

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Because it was contributing to the saturation of the pipeline. It was flushing every line of every frame in the pipeline. In a dev branch we went directly into NMS and now we only flush every frame. So iirc if we have it at 72p it's 72 lines and each of those lines flushed every frame and now it's 1 flush per frame instead of 72.

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It's not set in stone yet, a lot of profiling needs to be done.

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 7:39 PM

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frail glade Because it was contributing to the saturation of the pipeline. It was flushing e...

ah, thats very smart

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I have no idea how I'd even think about doing that lmfao

forest pecan Jul 31, 2021, 7:41 PM

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Holovid back from the dead 👏

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 7:42 PM

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We're also exploring the possibility of doing something like animated frames and have it statically on itemframes with maps so it can be in a static location vs rotating with the player.

eternal compass Jul 31, 2021, 7:44 PM

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#placeholder-api

wraith hamlet Jul 31, 2021, 7:44 PM

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oks

ocean quartz Jul 31, 2021, 7:57 PM

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Nice to see Holovid being worked on, it's looking amazing Glare!

frail glade Jul 31, 2021, 8:39 PM

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😃

grim current Jul 31, 2021, 11:31 PM

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Does somebody want to talk and code a bit?

rotund egret Aug 1, 2021, 12:31 AM

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Sure, I'll code

hallow crane Aug 1, 2021, 12:42 AM

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Does Holovid have a repo? I have a very good use for this- display stock tickers.

old wyvern Aug 1, 2021, 12:42 AM

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https://github.com/Holovid

GitHub

Holovid

Holovid has 3 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub.

hallow crane Aug 1, 2021, 12:43 AM

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Thanks!

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Oh wait does this require a spring boot app

frail glade Aug 1, 2021, 12:48 AM

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That's just for the backend audio

eternal compass Aug 1, 2021, 1:29 AM

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dang I missed 1,000 changes lmao

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https://github.com/Fredthedoggy/BentoBoxDownload/commit/f1613837742c6aefc94c47102cb72f97a82ccbc2

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965

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close enough

eternal compass Aug 1, 2021, 1:35 AM

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frail glade That's just for the backend audio

are you gonna make it public, so all servers can use one hosted one?

frail glade Aug 1, 2021, 1:38 AM

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For now. It already is hooked up to a public one

eternal compass Aug 1, 2021, 2:23 AM

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Nice

obtuse gale Aug 1, 2021, 2:24 AM

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how hard is to make a plugin that allows a player to set a home/spawn

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 2:25 AM

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not that hard, but depending on yoru skill level

obtuse gale Aug 1, 2021, 2:30 AM

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alright

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 2:33 AM

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obtuse gale how hard is to make a plugin that allows a player to set a home/spawn

super easy

obtuse gale Aug 1, 2021, 3:00 AM

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where would I start

half harness Aug 1, 2021, 3:17 AM

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depending on your knowledge

rotund egret Aug 1, 2021, 3:18 AM

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Hello world

frail glade Aug 1, 2021, 3:25 AM

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Sup

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 3:28 AM

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Sup

grim current Aug 1, 2021, 4:39 AM

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obtuse gale how hard is to make a plugin that allows a player to set a home/spawn

watch some tutorials on youtube and start to learn how to work with configs, then it should be pretty easy

obtuse gale Aug 1, 2021, 5:00 AM

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i'm lost for words https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/issues/3125#issuecomment-890450340

quiet depot Aug 1, 2021, 5:08 AM

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lmao

rotund egret Aug 1, 2021, 5:50 AM

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👀

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I wish I had that kind of money

paper yacht Aug 1, 2021, 8:10 AM

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$700 a year
$2 a day
still cheaper than a vps, but why would you even buy it for 3 years? its almost like hes tryna make the next big server or something

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he couldve just built a budget server rack for that money and keep it on his lan lol

hot hull Aug 1, 2021, 9:33 AM

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I mean why wouldn't you, he probably got it a lot cheaper for that timeframe than buying for like a few months

remote goblet Aug 1, 2021, 10:26 AM

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I find it so painful when people buy stuff like that before their server is closed to finished Panik

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if you're still in the luckperms setup phase

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stop paying wack amount of money to run the server that probably won't be released for another month

hot hull Aug 1, 2021, 10:28 AM

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Ori, go update my shit

ocean quartz Aug 1, 2021, 10:29 AM

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paper yacht $700 a year $2 a day still cheaper than a vps, but why would you even buy it for...

For just database you could easily just get a small vps from ovh, which would be like $60 a year, idk what vps you're talking about that'd be more than $700 a year

remote goblet Aug 1, 2021, 10:35 AM

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hot hull Ori, go update my shit

i already have to do that you fool

hot hull Aug 1, 2021, 10:35 AM

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<3

remote goblet Aug 1, 2021, 10:35 AM

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i hate auction worth Panik

hot hull Aug 1, 2021, 10:35 AM

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Why

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It's a big broin ploogin

remote goblet Aug 1, 2021, 10:37 AM

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StareIntoYourSoul because you made it

onyx loom Aug 1, 2021, 10:38 AM

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frosty... smart...?

hot hull Aug 1, 2021, 10:39 AM

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Wdym because I made it

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That's not very nice of you

remote goblet Aug 1, 2021, 10:41 AM

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becacuse you made it and because you wont do plugins, I have to do it Panik

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and I got all the shit on my ah release because I got all the shit for it breaking when you're the one who messed up Panik

hot hull Aug 1, 2021, 10:43 AM

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Nah nah, my shit works fine

toxic fable Aug 1, 2021, 12:23 PM

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hello! Please update DeluxeMenus, it's such an awesome plugin! I've been waiting to use it on 1.17 :>

pallid gale Aug 1, 2021, 12:24 PM

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toxic fable hello! Please update DeluxeMenus, it's such an awesome plugin! I've been waiting...

#general-plugins message

toxic fable Aug 1, 2021, 12:29 PM

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pallid gale https://canary.discord.com/channels/164280494874165248/164280494874165248/857363...

?

pallid gale Aug 1, 2021, 12:30 PM

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I linked you to the 1.17 dev build

toxic fable Aug 1, 2021, 12:38 PM

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Oh okay.

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I can't seem to download it.

toxic fable Aug 1, 2021, 12:51 PM

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pallid gale https://canary.discord.com/channels/164280494874165248/164280494874165248/857363...

May I know how do I get it?

ocean quartz Aug 1, 2021, 12:51 PM

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There is a download button right there

toxic fable Aug 1, 2021, 12:53 PM

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Oh thank you!

static zealot Aug 1, 2021, 12:53 PM

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👍

toxic fable Aug 1, 2021, 1:18 PM

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It didn't work tho.

static zealot Aug 1, 2021, 1:20 PM

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can you move to #general-plugins please and send a full startup log?

toxic fable Aug 1, 2021, 1:25 PM

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Okay.

prisma wave Aug 1, 2021, 1:54 PM

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if (itemConfig.headOwner() != null && meta instanceof SkullMeta headMeta) {
            //noinspection deprecation cringe
            headMeta.setOwningPlayer(Bukkit.getOfflinePlayer(itemConfig.headOwner()));
            meta = headMeta;
        }
item.setItemMeta(meta);

meta = headMeta is this line necessary?

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surely not right?

steel heart Aug 1, 2021, 1:56 PM

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Maybe he’s setting it concurrently in another thread BES_Clown

prisma wave Aug 1, 2021, 1:56 PM

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not possible

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it's not a global variable

steel heart Aug 1, 2021, 1:56 PM

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Oh

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Frick

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Well make everything global!

prisma wave Aug 1, 2021, 1:57 PM

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so it's probably not needed

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i dont think

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like headMeta is still gonna point to the same value

steel heart Aug 1, 2021, 1:57 PM

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Global variables, global functions, global everything!!!!

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Yeah

onyx loom Aug 1, 2021, 1:57 PM

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use editMeta instead then u definitely wont need it!

steel heart Aug 1, 2021, 1:57 PM

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spigot

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Btw is editMeta more optimized than getting the meta and then setting it back?

prisma wave Aug 1, 2021, 2:04 PM

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oh shit that's a thing

onyx loom Aug 1, 2021, 2:04 PM

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😌

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well its a Consumer, so take that as u will. but probably a micro optimisation either way

steel heart Aug 1, 2021, 2:05 PM

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I remember spigot cloning the meta 4 times or something when invoking equals on ItemStack

onyx loom Aug 1, 2021, 2:05 PM

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🌚

distant sun Aug 1, 2021, 2:34 PM

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where's editMeta from?

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ah 1.17 paper

ocean quartz Aug 1, 2021, 3:58 PM

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@fleet bay Just reading the docs and trying it out is pretty easy, if you know Java then Kotlin is gonna be a breeze

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 3:58 PM

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how is kotlin different?

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 3:58 PM

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Go to the website and look at it

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 3:58 PM

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kotlin syntax looks like c++ or cs which gives me chills

fleet bay Aug 1, 2021, 3:59 PM

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ocean quartz <@!320556733221306369> Just reading the docs and trying it out is pretty easy, i...

Oke oke Thanks!

onyx loom Aug 1, 2021, 3:59 PM

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its definitely not c++ what

fleet bay Aug 1, 2021, 3:59 PM

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I am looking forward to it now

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 3:59 PM

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ruby dew kotlin syntax looks like c++ or cs which gives me chills

What lmao

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 3:59 PM

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its syntax look like it at first glance

distant sun Aug 1, 2021, 3:59 PM

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??

ocean quartz Aug 1, 2021, 3:59 PM

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ruby dew how is kotlin different?

Null safety, less verbose, makes it easier to catch errors, has a really big and useful std lib, I can go on for a while

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 3:59 PM

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idk

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 3:59 PM

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No it does not

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 3:59 PM

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maybe im looking at the wrong language

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 3:59 PM

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Do you know what Cpp looks like lmao

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 3:59 PM

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Haha null safety in Java be like

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Optional

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xD

ocean quartz Aug 1, 2021, 3:59 PM

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fun main() {
  println("Hello world")
}

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:00 PM

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ocean quartz Null safety, less verbose, makes it easier to catch errors, has a really big and...

ahh yes...freak nullpointexception

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:00 PM

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ocean quartz ```kt fun main() { println("Hello world") } ```

i mean those semi colons

fleet bay Aug 1, 2021, 4:00 PM

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ocean quartz ```kt fun main() { println("Hello world") } ```

Is that kotlin?

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:00 PM

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gives me chills

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and yes i use cpp all the time

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other than java

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:00 PM

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fleet bay Is that kotlin?

Yes

ocean quartz Aug 1, 2021, 4:00 PM

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fleet bay Is that kotlin?

Yeah

distant sun Aug 1, 2021, 4:00 PM

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Yes Jona

fleet bay Aug 1, 2021, 4:00 PM

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Looks nice

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:00 PM

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What semicolons lmao

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:00 PM

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idk

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:00 PM

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Semicolons are useless

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Add unnecessary stuff

fleet bay Aug 1, 2021, 4:00 PM

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But indeed smillair to java ofc

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:00 PM

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maybe i am looking at the wrong language

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i hate fun keyword tho

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:00 PM

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Look at what Matt just sent

ocean quartz Aug 1, 2021, 4:00 PM

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It's fun though

fleet bay Aug 1, 2021, 4:00 PM

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But if you use Java all the time is it hard to switch to kotlin?

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:00 PM

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reminds me of nasty "function" in java script

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:01 PM

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fleet bay But if you use Java all the time is it hard to switch to kotlin?

Not at all

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:01 PM

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fleet bay But if you use Java all the time is it hard to switch to kotlin?

Nah

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I use both

fleet bay Aug 1, 2021, 4:01 PM

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Then i can try it atleast 😂

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:01 PM

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I code my test cases in Kotlin

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:01 PM

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kotlin is very similar to java

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:01 PM

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And main lib in Java

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:01 PM

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easy to switch over

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:01 PM

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like fun is the thing where you dont have to specify return type

frail glade Aug 1, 2021, 4:01 PM

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You can use them interop

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:01 PM

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The best way to start kotlin is so convert a single file of your code at a time from Java to kotlin

frail glade Aug 1, 2021, 4:01 PM

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It just comes with practice.

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:01 PM

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They can live together in the same protect

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:01 PM

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c++ or cs > all discussion ended

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:01 PM

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ruby dew c++ or cs > all discussion ended

Bro stfu

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:01 PM

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Yeah

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:01 PM

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lol

fleet bay Aug 1, 2021, 4:02 PM

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😂

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Maybe it is the time to stop @ruby dew

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:02 PM

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fleet bay Maybe it is the time to stop <@292161924496490497>

maybe you should stop targeting me and say i am mad

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:)

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just because i rejected your opinion

fleet bay Aug 1, 2021, 4:02 PM

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ruby dew maybe you should stop targeting me and say i am mad

huh

lunar cypress Aug 1, 2021, 4:02 PM

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ruby dew reminds me of nasty "function" in java script

Dude yeah "functions" are the worst

ocean quartz Aug 1, 2021, 4:03 PM

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fleet bay But if you use Java all the time is it hard to switch to kotlin?

public class Person {
  
  private final String name;
  private final int age;

  public Person(final String name, final int age) {
    this.name = name;
    this.age = age;
  }  

  public String getName() {
    return name;
  }

  public int getAge() {
    return age;
  }
  
}

In kt

data class Person(val name: String, age: Int)

not counting records

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:03 PM

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man

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:03 PM

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yes true fun is nasty

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:03 PM

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Lombok

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/s

distant sun Aug 1, 2021, 4:03 PM

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@ocean quartz record smh

fleet bay Aug 1, 2021, 4:03 PM

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ocean quartz ```java public class Person { private final String name; private final in...

But but but

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:03 PM

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Lol

fleet bay Aug 1, 2021, 4:03 PM

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What the heck

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:03 PM

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ocean quartz ```java public class Person { private final String name; private final in...

beanz

fleet bay Aug 1, 2021, 4:03 PM

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Holy shit

ocean quartz Aug 1, 2021, 4:03 PM

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distant sun <@180369172046413824> record smh

Shhh

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:03 PM

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fleet bay What the heck

Getters and Setters are automatic

fleet bay Aug 1, 2021, 4:03 PM

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Its so much cleaner

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:03 PM

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Record better

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Lol

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:03 PM

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You can override them if you need to

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:04 PM

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ocean quartz ```java public class Person { private final String name; private final in...

like what?you are having constructor beside class definition?
and dont even have to initialize instance variables?

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:04 PM

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imagine using lombok inside kotlin

fleet bay Aug 1, 2021, 4:04 PM

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Damn

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:04 PM

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that would be funny

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and illegal

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:04 PM

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stuck harbor imagine using lombok inside kotlin

I mean technically isn’t that possible

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Lol

lunar cypress Aug 1, 2021, 4:04 PM

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no

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:04 PM

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but no

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:04 PM

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ruby dew like what?you are having constructor beside class definition? and dont even have...

That is such a common pattern in Java they made it automatic in kotlin

frail glade Aug 1, 2021, 4:04 PM

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Confusing the JVM 101.

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:04 PM

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but

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just no

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:04 PM

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cinder flare That is such a common pattern in Java they made it automatic in kotlin

yeah but loses more flexibility tho

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:04 PM

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How

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:04 PM

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ruby dew yeah but loses more flexibility tho

No it doesn't

ocean quartz Aug 1, 2021, 4:04 PM

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ruby dew yeah but loses more flexibility tho

How?

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:04 PM

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You can still override and define the ones you need

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:04 PM

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You can still do the Java thing the hard way

onyx loom Aug 1, 2021, 4:05 PM

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u can still have an explicit constructor with the init keyword in kotlin

static zealot Aug 1, 2021, 4:05 PM

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^^^ you can still have multiple constructors

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:05 PM

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ohh alr

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:05 PM

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This is just a nice shortcut

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:05 PM

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thats nice ngl

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:05 PM

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i refuse to use kotlin cause i like NPE

onyx loom Aug 1, 2021, 4:05 PM

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but what about KNPE 🥺

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:05 PM

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I refuse to use Kotlin because I target Java users

lunar cypress Aug 1, 2021, 4:05 PM

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ruby dew yes true fun is nasty

yeah all these languages... wherever they got it from, it surely weren't decades of CS and millenia of maths

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:05 PM

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And Kotlin compatability too

fleet bay Aug 1, 2021, 4:05 PM

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onyx loom but what about KNPE 🥺

KNPE?

ocean quartz Aug 1, 2021, 4:06 PM

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I am yet to ever use a secondary constructor

data class Person(val name: String, age: Int = 1)

Person("bob") // bob, 1
Person("bob", 25) // bob, 25

onyx loom Aug 1, 2021, 4:06 PM

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fleet bay KNPE?

dont worry :)

fleet bay Aug 1, 2021, 4:06 PM

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😂

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:06 PM

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fleet bay KNPE?

Kotlin's type system makes it hard to get a null pointer exception, but it is still possible if you're dumb

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:06 PM

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Lol

ocean quartz Aug 1, 2021, 4:07 PM

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cinder flare Kotlin's type system makes it hard to get a null pointer exception, but it is st...

!! 🤡

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:07 PM

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lunar cypress yeah all these languages... wherever they got it from, it surely weren't decades...

i think its for scripting languages?
not even c++ or c have those

fleet bay Aug 1, 2021, 4:07 PM

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Hahaha wtf

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Sounds Nice tho

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:07 PM

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cinder flare Kotlin's type system makes it hard to get a null pointer exception, but it is st...

never loved nullpointerexception
i think they should remove it in java
there are a lot cases where you dont need an exception for null

lunar cypress Aug 1, 2021, 4:07 PM

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ruby dew i think its for scripting languages? not even c++ or c have those

yeah true, "functions" don't exist in c or c++

fleet bay Aug 1, 2021, 4:07 PM

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Its like you guys are saying that in Java you can make so many more mistakes then in kotlin?

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Or isnt that true

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:07 PM

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ruby dew i think its for scripting languages? not even c++ or c have those

Wtf are you talking about

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:08 PM

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ruby dew never loved nullpointerexception i think they should remove it in java there are...

That's what Kotlin does basically lmao

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:08 PM

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cinder flare Wtf are you talking about

im talking about the function keyword doesnt exist in the earliest languages

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:08 PM

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fleet bay Its like you guys are saying that in Java you can make so many more mistakes the...

Yes Kotlin is generally a safer language than even Java

ocean quartz Aug 1, 2021, 4:08 PM

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ruby dew never loved nullpointerexception i think they should remove it in java there are...

Nullability is a language design though, you can't just remove it

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:08 PM

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ruby dew im talking about the function keyword doesnt exist in the earliest languages

Bro what the fuck

fleet bay Aug 1, 2021, 4:08 PM

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cinder flare Yes Kotlin is generally a safer language than even Java

Then it is maybe the right time for me to start with it

lunar cypress Aug 1, 2021, 4:08 PM

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ruby dew im talking about the function keyword doesnt exist in the earliest languages

such as fortran, yeah

distant sun Aug 1, 2021, 4:09 PM

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ocean quartz Nullability is a language design though, you can't just remove it

delete null;

ocean quartz Aug 1, 2021, 4:09 PM

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Kek

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:09 PM

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fleet bay Then it is maybe the right time for me to start with it

Yeah sure! It's easy to setup and you can migrate your files one by one

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:09 PM

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ocean quartz Nullability is a language design though, you can't just remove it

im not meaning you should remove null
null is a good thing
and in c++ they even have null keyword representing 0
but you dont need an exception for that
there are many cases in programming where you dont need an alert that interrupts the program for null

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:09 PM

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There are just a couple things only I dislike about Kotlin though

lunar cypress Aug 1, 2021, 4:09 PM

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where did kotlin dream up the deranged concept of functions man

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:09 PM

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Only a couple

remote goblet Aug 1, 2021, 4:09 PM

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the hardest part about moving from java -> kotlin is the syntax blobslightsmile

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:09 PM

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Like the bitwise operators and some exceptions

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:09 PM

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lunar cypress where did kotlin dream up the deranged concept of functions man

Seriously dude

fleet bay Aug 1, 2021, 4:09 PM

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cinder flare Yeah sure! It's easy to setup and you can migrate your files one by one

Didnt knew people where so happy about kotlin, Thanks for the tip guys

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:10 PM

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forest pecan Like the bitwise operators and some exceptions

They're working on that!

remote goblet Aug 1, 2021, 4:10 PM

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this server circlejerks kotlin a lot

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:10 PM

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For a couple years already

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:10 PM

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Not really actually

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:10 PM

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🥲

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:10 PM

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not enough clojure circlejerking imo

ocean quartz Aug 1, 2021, 4:10 PM

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According to StackOverflow's survey Kotlin is on the top 5 most loved languages

rotund egret Aug 1, 2021, 4:10 PM

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kotlin

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:10 PM

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🙂

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:10 PM

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Now that BM has changed sides

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:10 PM

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i would still stick for java tho until kotlin has more features
and why do i feel like you guys are developers from kotlin lmao

ocean quartz Aug 1, 2021, 4:10 PM

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Most loved

fleet bay Aug 1, 2021, 4:10 PM

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Whats the first language you guys ever coded with?

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:10 PM

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more features

onyx loom Aug 1, 2021, 4:10 PM

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what kind of "features" are u looking for?

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:10 PM

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Kotlin has more features already smiling_face_with_3_tears

steel heart Aug 1, 2021, 4:11 PM

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ocean quartz Most loved

Paid actors clearly

onyx loom Aug 1, 2021, 4:11 PM

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yeah...

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:11 PM

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ocean quartz Most loved

🙂 rust

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typescript can go microwave itself

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:11 PM

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ocean quartz Most loved

I'm glad Rust is on top

remote goblet Aug 1, 2021, 4:11 PM

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fleet bay Whats the first language you guys ever coded with?

JS

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:11 PM

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go is good for servers man

ocean quartz Aug 1, 2021, 4:11 PM

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fleet bay Whats the first language you guys ever coded with?

C 😬

rotund egret Aug 1, 2021, 4:11 PM

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fleet bay Whats the first language you guys ever coded with?

Java

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:11 PM

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stuck harbor typescript can go microwave itself

It's certainly a huge step up from JS

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:11 PM

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ocean quartz C 😬

Boomer

remote goblet Aug 1, 2021, 4:11 PM

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actually no, JS is a lie

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Python was my first for a whole hour until I stopped

lunar cypress Aug 1, 2021, 4:11 PM

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seriously everyone is a kotlin shill here lmao 🤣 they should use ABCL like real programmers

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:11 PM

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lol ABCL

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:11 PM

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fleet bay Whats the first language you guys ever coded with?

java tbh
then when i switched to c++ i feel like i have much more flexibility

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:11 PM

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all my homies use ABCL

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who needs clojure

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:12 PM

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ruby dew java tbh then when i switched to c++ i feel like i have much more flexibility

And a lot less safety lmao

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:12 PM

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lets just stick to assembly

remote goblet Aug 1, 2021, 4:12 PM

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i dislike clojure syntax

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:12 PM

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Different languages for different tasks

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:12 PM

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remote goblet i dislike clojure syntax

ABCL is more lisp-y

lunar cypress Aug 1, 2021, 4:12 PM

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remote goblet i dislike clojure syntax

you're gonna love ABCL

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:12 PM

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cinder flare And a lot less safety lmao

with flexibility you sacrifice safety lmao
with all the void pointers and dangling pointers you already expect that

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:12 PM

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ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:12 PM

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but flexibility > safety

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:12 PM

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Somethings wrong

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:12 PM

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22 bytes

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:12 PM

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ruby dew with flexibility you sacrifice safety lmao with all the void pointers and dangli...

Not with something like Rust

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:13 PM

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forest pecan

WHAT?

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:13 PM

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You should look into it

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:13 PM

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Lol

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:13 PM

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If you love Cpp so much

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:13 PM

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cinder flare Not with something like Rust

rust is like better version of cpp right

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and faster

remote goblet Aug 1, 2021, 4:13 PM

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i prefer kotlin for SQL Based stuff blobslightsmile

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:13 PM

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ruby dew rust is like better version of cpp right

Much much much safer

lunar cypress Aug 1, 2021, 4:13 PM

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I want to frame some of these messages

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:13 PM

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ruby dew rust is like better version of cpp right

its got much more memory safety

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:13 PM

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And without all the bloat of C and being really old

remote goblet Aug 1, 2021, 4:13 PM

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rust? I thought that was a game clowncat

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:13 PM

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ohh alr thats good

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i literally thought rust was some libraries like react legit like 2 years ago

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:14 PM

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Yeah no

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:14 PM

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stuck harbor its got much more memory safety

memory safety for the win!

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:14 PM

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yep

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:15 PM

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Rust will be Mozilla's biggest contribution to the world hands down

ocean quartz Aug 1, 2021, 4:15 PM

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cinder flare If you love Cpp so much

Emily has entered the chat

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:15 PM

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firefox sucks tho

lunar cypress Aug 1, 2021, 4:15 PM

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Guess what else has memory safety

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:15 PM

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linux kernel has rust in it now, doesnt it?

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a bit

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:15 PM

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firefox is slow and annoying

rotund egret Aug 1, 2021, 4:15 PM

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lunar cypress Guess what else has memory safety

Not me

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:15 PM

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stuck harbor linux kernel has rust in it now, doesnt it?

Very soon!

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:15 PM

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ruby dew firefox sucks tho

no
false
bad

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i use firefox

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no problemos

rotund egret Aug 1, 2021, 4:15 PM

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Same

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:15 PM

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Meh

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:15 PM

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idk it just keeps crashing on my pc

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:15 PM

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it serves its purpose

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:15 PM

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and chrome is much faster when it comes to gaming

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:15 PM

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ruby dew idk it just keeps crashing on my pc

get a good pc then

ocean quartz Aug 1, 2021, 4:15 PM

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Maybe you need a new pc

rotund egret Aug 1, 2021, 4:15 PM

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Who games on a browser wtf

onyx loom Aug 1, 2021, 4:15 PM

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lmao

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:16 PM

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I just use Chrome but Firefox is whatevs

lunar cypress Aug 1, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Lmao

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:16 PM

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ruby dew and chrome is much faster when it comes to gaming

yeah club penguin goes 10% faster on chrome sure

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:16 PM

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i play diep io or arras io or some shits

remote goblet Aug 1, 2021, 4:16 PM

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real gamers still use internet explorer EmiCool

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:16 PM

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man club penguin shut down didnt it

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mood

onyx loom Aug 1, 2021, 4:16 PM

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"chrome is much faster when it comes to gaming" what does that even mean

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:16 PM

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use opera gx then 😉

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:16 PM

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stuck harbor man club penguin shut down didnt it

Pretty sure there's a community run free version now

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:16 PM

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i run arras io in chrome no problem
but when i run arras io in firefox it just lagsso much

distant sun Aug 1, 2021, 4:16 PM

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ocean quartz Most loved

Rust 🤢

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:16 PM

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club penguin is revamped

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:16 PM

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rust good

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Just like toontown and potco

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:16 PM

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i saw it went online

remote goblet Aug 1, 2021, 4:16 PM

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look at that clean ui

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:16 PM

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like several months ago

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:16 PM

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remote goblet look at that *clean* ui

My eyes

remote goblet Aug 1, 2021, 4:16 PM

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was half concerned that screenshot was gonna dox me

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:17 PM

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remote goblet look at that *clean* ui

i still use it to this day

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there is something attracting me in IE

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:17 PM

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imagine using windows

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:17 PM

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at least you dont get that annoying warning when you browse to some cracked sites

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:17 PM

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ruby dew there is something attracting me in IE

What the fuck

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:17 PM

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i use linux, and occassionally macOS

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:17 PM

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IE is great

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:17 PM

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ruby dew at least you dont get that annoying warning when you browse to some cracked site...

Cracked sites????

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:17 PM

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windows serves no purpose

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:17 PM

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ruby dew at least you dont get that annoying warning when you browse to some cracked site...

use bloody tor then

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:17 PM

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cinder flare Cracked sites????

idk like sites that arent that legit
and it actually allows you to download more file types

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:17 PM

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Dude this guy has got to be trolling

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:17 PM

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while chrome just completely blocks out those

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:18 PM

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ruby dew idk like sites that arent that legit and it actually allows you to download more...

You mean sites without a certificate?

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:18 PM

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no im not lmao i still use it
and im trying to dig around its source code to make it faster

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yeah

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:18 PM

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Those are extremely unsafe

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:18 PM

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mans saying chrome is too secuer

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:18 PM

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sites without certificate and also malicious file types which are legit

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:18 PM

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Yo anyone wanna help me pick out a name

cinder flare Aug 1, 2021, 4:18 PM

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Okay whatever lmao

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:18 PM

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fun fact: .dev sites wont load without SSL

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its why i use .dev

onyx loom Aug 1, 2021, 4:18 PM

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oh no @ocean quartz

forest pecan Aug 1, 2021, 4:19 PM

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Lol

ocean quartz Aug 1, 2021, 4:21 PM

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I mean who doesn't have ssl

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:21 PM

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well

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:21 PM

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i manually disable ssl

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:21 PM

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fair

remote goblet Aug 1, 2021, 4:21 PM

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eyesshooking

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:21 PM

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wh

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👀

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wh

steel heart Aug 1, 2021, 4:21 PM

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🤨

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:21 PM

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huh

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:21 PM

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to let others see my browsing history

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:22 PM

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thats not how

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it

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works?

ruby dew Aug 1, 2021, 4:22 PM

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i dont care if i log onto some websites without ssl

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like if someone is gonna intercept the packets then let it be

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for some sites

remote goblet Aug 1, 2021, 4:22 PM

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ocean quartz I mean who doesn't have ssl

deanEyes

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clowncat linux scares and confuses me so I gave up with ssl

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:23 PM

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lol

ocean quartz Aug 1, 2021, 4:23 PM

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stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:23 PM

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certbot is too easy nowadays

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ssl is a baseline, not a high mark

remote goblet Aug 1, 2021, 4:23 PM

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i got it to work on one domain and gave up after that

stuck harbor Aug 1, 2021, 4:23 PM

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HTCPCP is what my homies use now

errant geyser Aug 1, 2021, 4:52 PM

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remote goblet i got it to work on one domain and gave up after that

Caddy gets Lets Encrypt certs for you fingerguns

steel heart Aug 1, 2021, 4:55 PM

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Caddy

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😌

errant geyser Aug 1, 2021, 4:55 PM

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😍

old wyvern Aug 1, 2021, 4:56 PM

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ElaraGinx configures itself from your brain waves!

steel heart Aug 1, 2021, 4:56 PM

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😳

ocean quartz Aug 1, 2021, 4:57 PM

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Hawt

errant geyser Aug 1, 2021, 5:01 PM

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old wyvern ElaraGinx configures itself from your brain waves!

We need to get back into Elara at some point

old wyvern Aug 1, 2021, 5:02 PM

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Yup 😔

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wtf is this

errant geyser Aug 1, 2021, 5:02 PM

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skill

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Or brain damage, take your pick

old wyvern Aug 1, 2021, 5:02 PM

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I really thought I was reading Java for a few minutes

errant geyser Aug 1, 2021, 5:03 PM

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The cardinal sin of Kotlin

old wyvern Aug 1, 2021, 5:03 PM

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😔