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prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 11:20 AM

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well i guess java is already pretty fast so most of the time it's not necessary

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but i imagine a lot of the graphics and sound libraries interact with lower level stuff

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lwjgl for example which minecraft uses, is pretty much just a direct translation of a c(++) api (opengl)

timber oak Jul 21, 2021, 11:21 AM

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What is lwjgl for?

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 11:21 AM

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games

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any 3d graphics ig

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but mostly games

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afaik the library provides a bit more than just opengl but that's kinda the gist of it

timber oak Jul 21, 2021, 11:22 AM

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Interesting

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What makes C++ so fast though?

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It is the fastest language I assume?

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 11:23 AM

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a combination of things

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i mean

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the "fastest" would be assembly or machine code, but that's kinda misleading

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C and C++ are usually so fast because they compile directly to a native binary without anything extra such as a garbage collector

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and also i think the compilers are pretty good at optimising

timber oak Jul 21, 2021, 11:24 AM

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C as in C# or what?

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 11:24 AM

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no

timber oak Jul 21, 2021, 11:24 AM

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Or is C something different?

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 11:24 AM

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just C

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yeah

timber oak Jul 21, 2021, 11:24 AM

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Oh

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 11:24 AM

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C is the precursor to C++

timber oak Jul 21, 2021, 11:24 AM

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C# isn't very fast right?

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 11:24 AM

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C - the original shit

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 11:24 AM

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C# is comparable to java

timber oak Jul 21, 2021, 11:25 AM

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Ye

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 11:25 AM

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so not slow, but not as fast as something properly native

timber oak Jul 21, 2021, 11:25 AM

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Very similar syntax also

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 11:25 AM

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yep

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Microsoft Java

timber oak Jul 21, 2021, 11:25 AM

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lol ye

lunar cypress Jul 21, 2021, 11:27 AM

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Comparing speed like that on the surface level isn't that simple

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 11:27 AM

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prisma wave Microsoft Java

Is F#.... microsoft... haskell??

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🌞

ocean quartz Jul 21, 2021, 11:27 AM

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Did it work Yugi?

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 11:28 AM

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more like microsoft ocaml

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but yes

lunar cypress Jul 21, 2021, 11:28 AM

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Most JVMs for example have a just in time compiler and perform dynamic optimisations at runtime which are in many cases better than what can be done at compile time by C or C++

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 11:28 AM

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that's also true

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 11:28 AM

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I didnt test it yet matt, my classes just ended

ocean quartz Jul 21, 2021, 11:28 AM

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Ah okok ;p

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 11:29 AM

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I know this other language that can do more optimizations at compile time 😊

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 11:29 AM

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😌 😌 😌 😌

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did you know that ghc has flags for how many optimisations it can do

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 11:29 AM

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😮

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 11:29 AM

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like you can make it do literally every possible optimisation

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at the cost of build time ofc

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 11:30 AM

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I heard some of them break iorefs and such

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like it sometimes inlines it harshly

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 11:31 AM

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yeah probably

normal talon Jul 21, 2021, 11:44 AM

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Can someone help me in #development please

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 11:56 AM

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https://spark.lucko.me/03jteywM3O look, a wild spark report 👀

spark

spark is a performance profiling plugin/mod for Minecraft clients, servers and proxies.

potent nest Jul 21, 2021, 12:02 PM

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axolotls bad

steel heart Jul 21, 2021, 12:16 PM

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😔

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https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/axolotl-cheat-detector.94326/ btw lol

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Oh it got removed rip

hot hull Jul 21, 2021, 12:59 PM

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potent nest axolotls bad

baby blue axolotl best.

static zealot Jul 21, 2021, 12:59 PM

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hot hull baby blue axolotl best.

yeah. I use it as fuel. it actually lasts more than the other ones

hot hull Jul 21, 2021, 1:03 PM

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bruh what

static zealot Jul 21, 2021, 1:06 PM

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hot hull bruh what

u can use axolotl in a bucket as fuel in a furnace

steel heart Jul 21, 2021, 1:06 PM

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Wait wtf

static zealot Jul 21, 2021, 1:07 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PvVHOtMvYY

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steel heart Jul 21, 2021, 1:08 PM

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Thought that was a datapack

static zealot Jul 21, 2021, 1:08 PM

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it probably is xD

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never tested lmao

steel heart Jul 21, 2021, 1:08 PM

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smiling_face_with_3_tears

onyx loom Jul 21, 2021, 1:44 PM

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hey @ocean quartz how come triumph config doesnt have sources jar ☹️

steel heart Jul 21, 2021, 1:48 PM

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Matt monopoly epic fail

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 1:49 PM

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^

ocean quartz Jul 21, 2021, 1:56 PM

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onyx loom hey <@!180369172046413824> how come triumph config doesnt have sources jar ☹️

Probably forgot

onyx loom Jul 21, 2021, 2:01 PM

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disgusting, unacceptable behaviour

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 2:04 PM

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potent nest axolotls bad

Ikr

steel heart Jul 21, 2021, 2:05 PM

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No u

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 2:46 PM

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is possible to put Something<T> into a collection that accept Something<?>?

potent nest Jul 21, 2021, 3:20 PM

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that should work fine

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 3:21 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/xB14r7u.png

Imgur

potent nest Jul 21, 2021, 3:26 PM

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welp that's something different

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 3:27 PM

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😦

steel heart Jul 21, 2021, 3:28 PM

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Function<? super T, ? extends R> PES_Blush

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 3:35 PM

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@FunctionalInterface
public interface ActionFunction<T> {

    Action<T> run(ActionMeta<T> meta);

}```
Easy

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lol is the first time I see these tags

steel heart Jul 21, 2021, 3:37 PM

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Oh yeah same, what are those for :0

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 3:37 PM

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https://docs.docdex.helpch.at/jdk11/java.base/java/lang/FunctionalInterface.html

Java™ Language Specification

steel heart Jul 21, 2021, 3:58 PM

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Ah

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 4:20 PM

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potent nest welp that's something different

it makes sense now haha, it allows the object if the generic is assigned to it and not to a generic of it (Function<T, R>)

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 6:30 PM

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Is there any way to access the class of a generic (eg <T> void doStuff(ObjectHere<T> obj) without a Class<T> argument?

potent nest Jul 21, 2021, 6:32 PM

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not really

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 6:33 PM

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So unfortunate. What about a method on an abstract class Class<T> getType(), that doesnt have to be overrided on each implementation? Or is this a similar scenario as above?

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 6:35 PM

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Well you need to have a Class<T> to return in the first place

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 6:35 PM

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Yes, I know, but I cant use T.getClass() =/

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 6:36 PM

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That's why you still need a Class<T> object to return in the first place

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It needs to be provided somehow

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 6:37 PM

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Ah, I see what you mean. So is possible only on implementations since you have an actual object type rather a generic?

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 6:37 PM

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In the case its an abstract class, you kinda can

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As long as the users make a strict implementation

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 6:37 PM

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eh....

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 6:37 PM

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for eg

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 6:38 PM

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is it the hacky thing TypeToken uses?

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 6:38 PM

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yea

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abstract class Test<T> {
....
}

class B extends Test<Integer> {
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With this you can

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abstract class Test<T> {
....
}

class B<T> extends Test<T> {
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}

With this you cant

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 6:39 PM

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Yeah I use the first format

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 6:39 PM

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d; Class#getGenericSuperType

ruby craterBOT Jul 21, 2021, 6:39 PM

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java.lang.Class#getGenericSuperclass

public Type getGenericSuperclass()
throws MalformedParameterizedTypeException, TypeNotPresentException, GenericSignatureFormatError```

Description:

Returns the Type representing the direct superclass of the entity (class, interface, primitive type or void) represented by this Class.

If the superclass is a parameterized type, the Type object returned must accurately reflect the actual type parameters used in the source code. The parameterized type representing the superclass is created if it had not been created before. See the declaration of ParameterizedType for the semantics of the creation process for parameterized types. If this Class represents either the Object class, an interface, a primitive type, or void, then null is returned. If this object represents an array class then the Class object representing the Object class is returned.

Since:

1.5

Throws:

MalformedParameterizedTypeException - if the generic superclass refers to a parameterized type that cannot be instantiated for any reason
TypeNotPresentException - if the generic superclass refers to a non-existent type declaration
GenericSignatureFormatError - if the generic class signature does not conform to the format specified in The Java™ Virtual Machine Specification

Returns:

the direct superclass of the class represented by this object

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 6:39 PM

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You'll then need to check if its a parameterized type

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d; ParameterizedType

ruby craterBOT Jul 21, 2021, 6:39 PM

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com.sun.javadoc.ParameterizedType

@@Deprecated(since="9", forRemoval=true)
public interface ParameterizedType
extends Type```
ParameterizedType has 5 methods, 1 extensions, and  1 super interfaces.

Description:

Represents an invocation of a generic class or interface. For example, given the generic interface List<E>, possible invocations include: List<String> A generic inner class Outer<T>.Inner<S> might be invoked as: Outer<Number>.Inner<String>

Deprecation Message:

The declarations in this package have been superseded by those in the package jdk.javadoc.doclet. For more information, see the Migration Guide in the documentation for that package.

Since:

1.5

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 6:39 PM

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@@

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lol

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 6:40 PM

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Double deprecation

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Ah yeah

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I guess I will just live with overriding the method

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 6:41 PM

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You could also abuse a typetoken probably

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 6:48 PM

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obtuse gale @@

actually, looks like a docdex bug 😬

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onyx loom Jul 21, 2021, 6:49 PM

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ye it is i think

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i remember seeing 2 @NotNulls before

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and 2 @Nullables

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 6:49 PM

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that's a javadocs thing in general too lol

onyx loom Jul 21, 2021, 6:50 PM

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o

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 6:52 PM

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Hey Yugi, would you say it's safe to assume that any "consumer" functions (that take something but return nothing ("void")) are expected to have side effects?

steel heart Jul 21, 2021, 7:08 PM

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Sounds logical to me but me ain’t no lambda monad guy

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 7:12 PM

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obtuse gale Hey Yugi, would you say it's safe to assume that any "consumer" functions (that ...

yes

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im fairly sure that any non-empty consumer function must have side effects

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or at least i cant think of any valid consumer implementation without side effects

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 7:13 PM

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lol nerd

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 7:13 PM

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shut up

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"hEy YuGi"

steel heart Jul 21, 2021, 7:13 PM

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So Haskell got no consumers?

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 7:14 PM

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well

steel heart Jul 21, 2021, 7:14 PM

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Welllll

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 7:14 PM

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you could have something like a -> () but the only valid implementation would just be \_ -> (), i.e it ignores the argument and returns ()

steel heart Jul 21, 2021, 7:14 PM

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So basically a runnable?

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 7:15 PM

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runnables are implied to have side effects too

steel heart Jul 21, 2021, 7:15 PM

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Oh ofc

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Void

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 7:15 PM

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a -> () can't

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a -> IO () could

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 7:15 PM

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i mean what's the point of having a consumer that does nothing

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 7:15 PM

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for instance putStrLn is String -> IO (), so i guess you could view that as a Consumer<String>

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 7:15 PM

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prisma wave runnables are implied to have side effects too

public Thread(Runnable) 🥴

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 7:15 PM

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a function that takes arguments, returns nothing, and has no side effects is objectively pointless right

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 7:16 PM

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pretty much

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 7:16 PM

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yeah

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 7:17 PM

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the unit value is all about pointlessness

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in a way

ocean quartz Jul 21, 2021, 7:17 PM

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steel heart So Haskell got no consumers?

Haskell consumes your life

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 7:18 PM

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🙂

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and you enjoy it

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 7:19 PM

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kinky

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 7:21 PM

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oh yes

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 7:21 PM

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lol

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@ocean quartz shall I merge that pr? the actions seem to be passing

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https://github.com/slimjar/slimjar/pull/44/checks?check_run_id=3127476911

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 7:32 PM

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$0 upsidedowntears #860006856864169985 message

ocean quartz Jul 21, 2021, 7:42 PM

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old wyvern <@!180369172046413824> shall I merge that pr? the actions seem to be passing

The issues are on running the plugin, plus that'll also break compatibility with pre 7.x versions

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I'll test it real quick

steel heart Jul 21, 2021, 7:42 PM

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Yugi slimjar for maven when

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 7:43 PM

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ocean quartz The issues are on running the plugin, plus that'll also break compatibility with...

ahhh

tired vector Jul 21, 2021, 7:43 PM

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cinder flare $0 <:upsidedowntears:752346708150583347> https://discord.com/channels/1642804948...

I mean, if someone wants to handle it for free 😆

ocean quartz Jul 21, 2021, 7:43 PM

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tired vector I mean, if someone wants to handle it for free 😆

That's not a valid request-paid, it must be paid

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 7:43 PM

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steel heart Yugi slimjar for maven when

I started on it, didnt get time to sit down and properly finish it yet

steel heart Jul 21, 2021, 7:43 PM

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Ah

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Some dev reached out to me about it lol so ye just got curious

tired vector Jul 21, 2021, 7:43 PM

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ocean quartz That's not a valid request-paid, it must be paid

Oh, fair, Edited to be min 1usd xD

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 7:44 PM

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Do you wanna give it a shot?

steel heart Jul 21, 2021, 7:44 PM

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Uh what do u write it in?

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I guess it’s basically loose copy paste from the gradle one?

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 7:44 PM

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The features yea, there might be slight difference due to the difference in API that maven provides

ocean quartz Jul 21, 2021, 7:45 PM

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steel heart Some dev reached out to me about it lol so ye just got curious

Just a sec I'm gonna waste some unneeded time on a funny response for this

steel heart Jul 21, 2021, 7:45 PM

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Ah true but it’s in Java? OwO

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 7:45 PM

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https://maven.apache.org/guides/plugin/guide-java-plugin-development.html

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 7:45 PM

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steel heart Ah true but it’s in Java? OwO

I assume you can write kotlin as well

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I dont see a reason why it wouldnt work

steel heart Jul 21, 2021, 7:46 PM

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Aight give me a couple of days, what do you prefer?

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 7:46 PM

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I dont mind, use what feels right to you

steel heart Jul 21, 2021, 7:46 PM

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Java it is ASowyea

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 7:47 PM

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💯 💯

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 7:48 PM

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old wyvern I assume you can write kotlin as well

clojure 😎

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 7:48 PM

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😮

frigid badge Jul 21, 2021, 7:48 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/minions-blah-blah-blah-roll-eyes-eyeroll-whatever-gif-16216173

Tenor

steel heart Jul 21, 2021, 7:48 PM

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Okay so like yes good mmm

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 7:49 PM

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frigid badge https://tenor.com/view/minions-blah-blah-blah-roll-eyes-eyeroll-whatever-gif-162...

you've got some attitude

frigid badge Jul 21, 2021, 7:49 PM

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lmao

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 7:49 PM

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Are you... insulting... rich hickey??!

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 7:49 PM

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clearly!

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unforgivable!

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 7:49 PM

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prisma wave clojure 😎

scala gang

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 7:49 PM

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!!!

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 7:50 PM

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maybe ill change my ways once i do some elisp lol

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 7:50 PM

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ellipse

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 7:50 PM

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ive not actually had to write much

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i think it's only really needed for the super personal customisations

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 7:50 PM

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I wanna make a lisp for the fun of it

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 7:50 PM

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lisps are sick

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have you used parsec?

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 7:50 PM

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prisma wave i think it's only really needed for the super personal customisations

or if you aren't using doom lmao

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 7:50 PM

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Nope

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 7:50 PM

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yes or that lol

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it's so cool

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 7:51 PM

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its the haskell lib right?

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 7:51 PM

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yeah

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 7:51 PM

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Ill check it out

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 7:51 PM

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i saw a cool video series on making your own doom emacs from scratch basically

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like writing all the elisp, it looked very cool

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 7:51 PM

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parseList :: Parser Element
parseList = do
  _ <- char '('
  x <- ListElement <$> sepBy parseExpr spaces
  _ <- char ')'
  return x

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i think i've seen that too lol

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 7:51 PM

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Fuck it, lets rewrite linux

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 7:51 PM

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prisma wave ```hs parseList :: Parser Element parseList = do _ <- char '(' x <- ListElem...

😮

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 7:51 PM

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😌

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and you can combine parsers with <|>

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parseExpr :: Parser Element
parseExpr =
  parseString
    <|> parseAtom
    <|> parseNumber
    <|> parseList
    <|> parseVec
    <|> parseQuoted

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it's so cool

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 7:52 PM

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Yea haskell actually works perfectly for this usecase tbh

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 7:52 PM

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definitely

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parseNumber = do
  nums <- many1 (digit <|> char '.')
  if '.' `elem` nums
    then return $ FloatElement $ read nums
    else return $ IntElement $ read nums

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such a cool library

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 7:52 PM

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like its almost backus naur

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so very close

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except with extra stuff ofc

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 7:53 PM

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almost

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yeah

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 7:53 PM

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prisma wave ```hs parseNumber = do nums <- many1 (digit <|> char '.') if '.' `elem` nums...

i like that lol, if . then float

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 7:53 PM

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yeah lmao

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whatever works

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couldnt think of a better way of doing it

ocean quartz Jul 21, 2021, 7:53 PM

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steel heart Some dev reached out to me about it lol so ye just got curious

Too much work

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 7:53 PM

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xD

steel heart Jul 21, 2021, 7:53 PM

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SOTRUE

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:17 PM

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is this valid yaml?

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 8:17 PM

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looks like it

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actually no

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:17 PM

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aw man according to a parser it's not

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 8:17 PM

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the key needs to be a string I think

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:17 PM

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😦

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yeah

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rip

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that was gonna be so cool

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 8:17 PM

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You can use json

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:18 PM

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yeah was gonna say

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don't think an array can be a key

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:18 PM

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but json is ugly

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not user friendly

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:18 PM

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TOML

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 8:18 PM

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Its just a few extra braces

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:18 PM

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a few lmao

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:18 PM

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and quotes everywhere

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 8:18 PM

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🤷

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Maybe you need...

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KORM

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:19 PM

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😭

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 8:19 PM

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Looks like that could work

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https://github.com/Sxtanna/korm

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:19 PM

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just write a custom lisp interepretation

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:19 PM

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i mean if it was me i'd do ```clj
{[1 2 3] {:type RED_STAINED_GLASS_PANE }}

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but thats also not very user friendly

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 8:20 PM

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Why not have haskell configuration like xmonad? 😌

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:20 PM

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tempting

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:20 PM

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how about ```haskell
do => monad monad
1 2 3 <==> RED_STAINED_GLASS_PANE
monad monad

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:20 PM

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🥴

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:20 PM

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as you can see, we've progressed as a species

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:21 PM

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old wyvern https://github.com/Sxtanna/korm

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:21 PM

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we now use monad monad instead of brackets

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 8:21 PM

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prisma wave

Its in a working state right?

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:21 PM

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so wait did sx like die or something

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:21 PM

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in theory

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:21 PM

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i know he left the community

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 8:21 PM

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He left everything

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:21 PM

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but did he leave developing entirely?

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 8:21 PM

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Probably not

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:21 PM

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cinder flare so wait did sx like die or something

he got banned i think 🥲

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doubt it

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 8:21 PM

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I assume alt account

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:21 PM

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ahhh

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:21 PM

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last i checked he was working for some big server

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:22 PM

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maybe he renamed himself to::: Brister Mitten! 😮

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:22 PM

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probably telling them about how good kotlin is

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😮

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 8:22 PM

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And then one day all of a sudden he left that

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he was working on a youtubers server

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:22 PM

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oh yeah he got banned and clip left on the same day

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they had some massive argument

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 8:22 PM

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Yea about the api changes sx did

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:22 PM

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yeah lmao

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 8:23 PM

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He instantly broke like hundreds of expansions

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:23 PM

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he broke a bunch of shit in a minor update

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😂

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:23 PM

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damn we lost two bois on the same day

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that is very sad

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 8:23 PM

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Well

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:23 PM

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yeah i mean clip joined back

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 8:23 PM

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clip rejoined after a day

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:23 PM

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but it's not like he's active

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 8:23 PM

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yea

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:23 PM

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did he really tho

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yea

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man what would a haskell syntax be for like a deluxemenus clone

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isn't that what you're making?

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 8:24 PM

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What?

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:24 PM

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i wish

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i just want customisable guis for a commission

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:24 PM

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prisma wave i mean if it was me i'd do ```clj {[1 2 3] {:type RED_STAINED_GLASS_PANE }} ```

what this for

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:24 PM

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trying to think of a nice way of doing it

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:24 PM

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ah

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we should make a DM fork that uses haskell notation

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:24 PM

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i'd love to

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but work comes first

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 8:24 PM

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gui = [
   [stick, glass, glass],
   [stick, glass, glass],
   [stick, glass, glass],
]

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:24 PM

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damn imagine getting paid to do stuff

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i could never

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:25 PM

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i pretty much have to

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i have no money left and ive booked a trip to london next week

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sooo

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pretty much praying that this dude isnt gonna scam me

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:25 PM

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well yeah my point was more that nobody would hire me

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:25 PM

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oh lmao

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:25 PM

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not really that I don't want to lmao

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:25 PM

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they probably would

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as long as u can make something that works

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:25 PM

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awww

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i've made a few things that work i think

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:25 PM

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thats enough for most people

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:26 PM

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i mean look at my jithub!

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 8:26 PM

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Theres some guy paying in #860006856864169985 to generate a obsidian cube basically

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ez money

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:26 PM

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yeah I saw that lol

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 8:26 PM

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lol

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 8:26 PM

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and there's people in #off-topic saying they have DMs off

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lol

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:26 PM

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lmao

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:26 PM

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ayyy

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 8:26 PM

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lol

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Ping spam them

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 8:26 PM

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they already did 😂

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 8:26 PM

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lmao

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:27 PM

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did you see the guy whose range of payment was $0 to $25

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ah he changed it to $1 lmao

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 8:27 PM

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but yeah most people just want something that works so don't bother in quality (:

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jk

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 8:29 PM

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😿 https://i.imgur.com/Ua7Cv1P.png

Imgur

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 8:29 PM

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I mean

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:29 PM

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capture capture gang

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 8:29 PM

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yeah

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you're getting it as <?, ?>

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 8:29 PM

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yeah ik

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:30 PM

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also I have literally no clue what that function does

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 8:30 PM

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it is a supplier that returns a new instance of a Node<>

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 8:30 PM

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it parses a node

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what's nodes?

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 8:31 PM

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private final Table<String, Class<?>, Node.Supplier<?, ?>> nodes = HashBasedTable.create();

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hm, I might rename them to Component

#

Node is kinda meh

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:31 PM

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man you are speaking another language man

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so much so that I said man twice in that short sentence

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 8:32 PM

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sheesh

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 8:32 PM

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distant sun `private final Table<String, Class<?>, Node.Supplier<?, ?>> nodes = HashBasedTab...

hm well

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 8:32 PM

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Im opened to suggestions, im not too experienced with generics

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:32 PM

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all these question marks, whatever a HashBasedTable is

#

suppliers and stuff, crazy

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 8:32 PM

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distant sun Im opened to suggestions, im not too experienced with generics

@SuppressWarning("unchecked") sounds appropriate :^)

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:33 PM

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lmao

half harness Jul 21, 2021, 8:33 PM

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@SuppressWarning("all")
😌

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 8:33 PM

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:))

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 8:33 PM

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cinder flare all these question marks, whatever a HashBasedTable is

basically a Map<R, Map<C, V>>

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 8:33 PM

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half harness `@SuppressWarning("all")` 😌

couldn't be other than dkim

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lmao

half harness Jul 21, 2021, 8:33 PM

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-_-

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:34 PM

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distant sun basically a `Map<R, Map<C, V>>`

oh that actually kinda makes sense

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 8:34 PM

#

d;guava Table

ruby craterBOT Jul 21, 2021, 8:34 PM

#

com.google.common.collect.Table

public interface Table```
Table has 21 methods, 5 implementing classes, and  1 sub interfaces.

Description:

A collection that associates an ordered pair of keys, called a row key and a column key, with a single value. A table may be sparse, with only a small fraction of row key / column key pairs possessing a corresponding value.

The mappings corresponding to a given row key may be viewed as a Map whose keys are the columns. The reverse is also available, associating a column with a row key / value map. Note that, in some implementations, data access by column key may have fewer supported operations or worse performance than data access by row key.

The methods returning collections or maps always return views of the underlying table. Updating the table can change the contents of those collections, and updating the collections will change the table.

All methods that modify the table are optional, and the views returned by the...

This description has been shortened as it was too long.

Since:

7.0

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 8:34 PM

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Row and Column

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smort

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 8:34 PM

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ikr

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:35 PM

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damn why don't we make GUIs using these bad boys

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 8:35 PM

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🤨

distant sun Jul 21, 2021, 8:35 PM

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obtuse gale `@SuppressWarning("unchecked")` sounds appropriate :^)

unappropriated 🤣

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lol star

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 8:35 PM

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what

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oh well i guess you only need indices for a gui

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nvmd

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 8:36 PM

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already did

ocean quartz Jul 21, 2021, 8:42 PM

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old wyvern KORM

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 8:42 PM

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japan

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 8:59 PM

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i have just found about about "spicetify"

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this makes me extremely happy

forest pecan Jul 21, 2021, 9:00 PM

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Welcome to the korm fields

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Also isn’t that Kotlin object relation mapping or something

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And Sxtanna made it right lol

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 9:00 PM

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ye

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it was linked above lol

forest pecan Jul 21, 2021, 9:00 PM

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Oh lol

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 9:00 PM

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yes

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sxtanna json

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but look at this!!

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i can finally have pretty r/unixporn stuff with spotify

forest pecan Jul 21, 2021, 9:02 PM

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Hot

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 9:02 PM

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very hot

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 9:02 PM

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inb4 spotify bans spicify like discord banned betterdiscord lol

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 9:02 PM

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then i will stop using spotify

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 9:03 PM

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i really wish there was a good desktop apple music player

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or that they had an api third party programs could implement 🥲

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 9:03 PM

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ha

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you expect too much from apple

forest pecan Jul 21, 2021, 9:03 PM

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“iTunes”

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That’s what Masked said he listens to

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 9:03 PM

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well on macos they have the Music app

forest pecan Jul 21, 2021, 9:03 PM

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😫

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 9:03 PM

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which is actually not too shabby

forest pecan Jul 21, 2021, 9:04 PM

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Is there a SoundCloud app

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 9:07 PM

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uyh

#

probably not

#

who knows, maybe I just start downloading my music

#

probably won't take up that much space anyways

#

i have 4.3GB of music on my phone and that's like, every song I listen to

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 9:24 PM

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prisma wave but look at this!!

what is that de?

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 9:26 PM

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if BM is a man of integrity, that's xmonad and xmobar

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and honestly a damn good use of screen space

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 9:29 PM

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old wyvern what is that de?

i3 im afraid

#

sorry star

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 9:29 PM

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damb

#

maybe I can convert you after I get my setup

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 9:29 PM

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maybe

#

im not a big customisability freak tbh

#

i prefer things that work out of the box

#

well

#

i know xmonad does too

#

but that's specifically designed to be 100% super customisable

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 9:30 PM

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i mean that's why you just steal someone's config

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 9:30 PM

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true

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 9:30 PM

#

then you tweak just a little

#

and it's perfect

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 9:30 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

might as well use i3 at that point though

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 9:30 PM

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and you're not locked into a shitty status bar 🥲

#

i mean but the principle

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 9:30 PM

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true

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 9:30 PM

#

as a haskell enthusiast

#

they might revoke your haskell membership for using i3 if you're not careful eyesintense

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 9:31 PM

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im sure they'd understand

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yknow

#

sure haskell is nice

#

but

#

i3 does everything i need it to and i cba to move over

old wyvern Jul 21, 2021, 9:32 PM

#

ah

cinder flare Jul 21, 2021, 9:35 PM

#

hmm dats true

#

though I hear xmonad has really good multi screen support

#

since you can tell stuff to move by monitor instead of by workspace and other things

#

and, having 3 monitors myself, that is of utmost importance to me lol

prisma wave Jul 21, 2021, 9:36 PM

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neat

obtuse gale Jul 21, 2021, 10:41 PM

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ah yes, the pinnacle of software engineering

#

steel heart Jul 21, 2021, 10:41 PM

#

smiling_face_with_3_tears

half harness Jul 22, 2021, 12:23 AM

#

cinder flare Jul 22, 2021, 7:30 AM

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i have retreated back to the safety of Arch

#

Gentoo requires too much forethought and planning and I change my mind like every hour, which is faster than Gentoo can recompile all my stuff

#

also I hate boot managers with a passion

#

#

Back to Arch 😌

obtuse gale Jul 22, 2021, 7:32 AM

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Too much lighting

cinder flare Jul 22, 2021, 7:32 AM

#

what, my keyboard?

#

it's not that annoying in person

#

just looks really bright in the pics cause there's not a lot of lighting in my room

#

string lights and all

obtuse gale Jul 22, 2021, 7:33 AM

#

cinder flare it's not that annoying in person

My 4.30 am brain read "you are that annoying person"

#

Almost had a heart attack

cinder flare Jul 22, 2021, 7:33 AM

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nah you good

obtuse gale Jul 22, 2021, 7:33 AM

#

😎

cinder flare Jul 22, 2021, 7:58 AM

#

hey bm

#

guess who has xmonad installed right now

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 7:59 AM

#

yugi?

cinder flare Jul 22, 2021, 7:59 AM

#

#

doom emacs is being setup as we speak

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 8:15 AM

#

k

cinder flare Jul 22, 2021, 8:15 AM

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k sorry just thought bm would be happy for me 😦

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 8:15 AM

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well he's clearly not. he's too busy playing overwatch

#

with Sx

obtuse gale Jul 22, 2021, 8:16 AM

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Not if I stop him

#

@prisma wave

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 8:16 AM

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@prisma wave

#

@pallid gale idk if you know this but BM still has the TRusted role xD

#

I just noticed

#

it

prisma wave Jul 22, 2021, 8:17 AM

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wat

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 8:17 AM

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wait @cinder flare why don't you have the developer role again?

prisma wave Jul 22, 2021, 8:17 AM

#

static zealot <@!161022752923320320> idk if you know this but BM still has the TRusted role x...

are you sure about that

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 8:17 AM

#

prisma wave wat

u are very helpful sir. thank you

obtuse gale Jul 22, 2021, 8:17 AM

#

Because he ain't a developer

prisma wave Jul 22, 2021, 8:17 AM

#

static zealot with Sx

if only

obtuse gale Jul 22, 2021, 8:18 AM

#

sad Star noises

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 8:18 AM

#

xD

pallid gale Jul 22, 2021, 8:26 AM

#

static zealot <@!161022752923320320> idk if you know this but BM still has the TRusted role x...

wot u on about

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 8:26 AM

#

pallid gale wot u on about

cinder flare Jul 22, 2021, 8:27 AM

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obtuse gale Because he ain't a developer

hey wtf

#

i installed doom emacs okay

#

i think that's enough

pallid gale Jul 22, 2021, 8:27 AM

#

static zealot

Where does it say trusted?

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 8:27 AM

#

wait I said trusted?

cinder flare Jul 22, 2021, 8:27 AM

#

yeah not sure what Blitz is on about

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 8:27 AM

#

fuck. I meant helpful

#

my bad

cinder flare Jul 22, 2021, 8:27 AM

#

besides hurting my feelings

pallid gale Jul 22, 2021, 8:27 AM

#

u can have both?

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 8:27 AM

#

oh

#

ok then

#

nvm

cinder flare Jul 22, 2021, 8:27 AM

#

hey can I get mine back

#

i had it originally remember

pallid gale Jul 22, 2021, 8:27 AM

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gotta be helpful for that

#

kek

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 8:28 AM

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when you gave me staff u took out the helpful. xD

cinder flare Jul 22, 2021, 8:28 AM

#

i literally was 😦

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 8:28 AM

#

pallid gale gotta be helpful for that

well I have the best argument for this

#

=xp

compact perchBOT Jul 22, 2021, 8:28 AM

#

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 8:28 AM

#

read the background card

#

ty

cinder flare Jul 22, 2021, 8:28 AM

#

oh damn he's got a point

pallid gale Jul 22, 2021, 8:28 AM

#

leaked our dms

#

so bad

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 8:28 AM

#

at least I'm helpful xd

cinder flare Jul 22, 2021, 8:29 AM

#

can i auto-obtain the developer role due to my contributions to notable projects such as Barry and PAPI

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 8:29 AM

#

anyways since you took it for everyone just thought its like an upgrade helpful -> support -> trusted or something like that

pallid gale Jul 22, 2021, 8:29 AM

#

cinder flare can i auto-obtain the developer role due to my contributions to notable projects...

i dont handle the dev role

cinder flare Jul 22, 2021, 8:29 AM

#

damb

#

where's mr piglet

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 8:29 AM

#

well

#

you can just make the request

#

but there's a queue

cinder flare Jul 22, 2021, 8:29 AM

#

yeah exactly

#

ill just go straight to the source

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 8:30 AM

#

and when I say a queue I mean like a black friday type of queue

#

xD

#

like the us walmart black friday queue

cinder flare Jul 22, 2021, 8:30 AM

#

nah black friday is lame now

#

there's too many people and the prices aren't good at all

#

walmart ain't what it used to be smiling_face_with_3_tears

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 8:32 AM

#

well idk. it was never like that here. never actually had to sit in a queue for black friday. and never had people trample eachother

cinder flare Jul 22, 2021, 8:33 AM

#

well you see

#

the average weight of an american is probably twice what it is for romanians

#

you guys can't even afford minecraft

#

how can you afford food, free time to trample people, and walmart delicacies

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 8:35 AM

#

yeah. the last one is even harder to afford bcz we don't have walmart

cinder flare Jul 22, 2021, 8:35 AM

#

exactly

obtuse gale Jul 22, 2021, 8:36 AM

#

cinder flare the average weight of an american is probably twice what it is for romanians

That's so sad lol

ivory hare Jul 22, 2021, 8:48 AM

#

Hi

#

So , im developing a plugin

#

and i have a player that is mounted on an armour stand

#

however if they press shift they easily get off

#

how do i prevent that

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 8:49 AM

#

isn't there an entity dismount event or something like that you can cancel?

ivory hare Jul 22, 2021, 8:50 AM

#

static zealot isn't there an entity dismount event or something like that you can cancel?

I have looked for that but i couldnt find it anywhere

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 8:50 AM

#

d;spigot EntityDismountEvent

ruby craterBOT Jul 22, 2021, 8:50 AM

#

org.spigotmc.event.entity.EntityDismountEvent

public class EntityDismountEvent
extends EntityEvent
implements Cancellable```
EntityDismountEvent has 1 all implementations, 6 methods, 1 implementations, and  1 extensions.

Description:

Called when an entity stops riding another entity.

ivory hare Jul 22, 2021, 8:51 AM

#

Oh

#

damn

#

thank you

ivory hare Jul 22, 2021, 9:14 AM

#

I have this right now , how to i cancel the event

#

sorry im new to development

dense dew Jul 22, 2021, 9:21 AM

#

@eventhandler
public void onsomeevent (entitydismountevent evrnt) {
//you can do if something
event.setcanceled(true) }

#

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/how-to-cancel-event.216961/?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=pmd_eba942e63c6461ab477f29f4ac98994c85a0b7b9-1626945752-0-gqNtZGzNAfijcnBszQe6

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

How to cancel Event?

Hello,

When a player reaches 6 remaining food, he will be forced to stop sprinting. Can that event be canceled?

compact perchBOT Jul 22, 2021, 9:32 AM

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static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 11:55 AM

#

@timber oak it means its declared per class. not per instance. so yeah I guess what you said is kinda true

timber oak Jul 22, 2021, 11:55 AM

#

Oh, deleted the message because I thought it was wrong after I wrote it lol

#

I now understand the disadvantages though

#

Oh wow it actually makes so much sense now lol

frail glade Jul 22, 2021, 2:10 PM

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Gian, since that spigot thread isn't updated as much anymore, have you looked at checking out https://github.com/YouHaveTrouble/minecraft-optimization and adding it to your website?

errant geyser Jul 22, 2021, 2:21 PM

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Is there a reason for Java version numbers being 44 above their name? For example, Java 6 is 50, Java 16 is 60 and so on

steel heart Jul 22, 2021, 2:30 PM

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I believe there was a lot of versions early on like Java 1 or smtng

#

Or class versions

#

Whatever it’s called

hot hull Jul 22, 2021, 2:42 PM

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errant geyser Is there a reason for Java version numbers being 44 above their name? For exampl...

Poor organisation 🤡

humble silo Jul 22, 2021, 3:42 PM

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rich ridge Jul 22, 2021, 4:29 PM

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hi im searching for developers for my minecraft server dm me if you're intreseted

obtuse gale Jul 22, 2021, 4:31 PM

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#860006855325122591 #860006856864169985 @rich ridge

jovial warren Jul 22, 2021, 5:04 PM

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hey, I know this may seem a bit generic, but would any of you have any idea why a task would run perfectly fine sync on startup, but just hang for ages and do nothing running on a ThreadPoolExecutor with (Runtime.getRuntime().availableProcessors() - 1).clamp(1, 8) threads?

#

I'm just looking for some possible reasons why that could even happen in the first place

#

can provide much more context if necessary

prisma wave Jul 22, 2021, 5:07 PM

#

Needs more context I imagine

#

It's probably not the thread pool's fault, meaning it's probably the task doing something wrong

jovial warren Jul 22, 2021, 5:07 PM

#

a.k.a me doing a PEBKAC

#

https://github.com/KryptonMC/Krypton/blob/dev/server/src/main/kotlin/org/kryptonmc/krypton/Krypton.kt#L138 this is the actual thing that uses the executor, BACKGROUND_EXECUTOR is the executor here

#

which is declared here: https://github.com/KryptonMC/Krypton/blob/dev/server/src/main/kotlin/org/kryptonmc/krypton/util/executors.kt#L35

#

basically, what this system does is loads a bunch of resources from files and then applies them

#

the BACKGROUND_EXECUTOR is meant to do the loading part of that process, and then that second Runnable::run there is the syncExecutor, which is used to do the actual application

#

https://github.com/KryptonMC/Krypton/blob/dev/server/src/main/kotlin/org/kryptonmc/krypton/resource/reload/ProfiledReloadInstance.kt#L31 this is the place where the tasks are actually dispatched and ran

#

https://github.com/KryptonMC/Krypton/blob/dev/server/src/main/kotlin/org/kryptonmc/krypton/tags/TagManager.kt#L34 this is the only reload listener currently (that call to listener.reload is only coming here)

#

as you can see, it has to first create the loader that will actually do the loading, and then grab the load task with a CF, which is executed on the background executor, then the reload is done on the sync executor

#

omfg why

#

ofc the one line I looked at and went "eh, probably just a decompiler error" was actually the one that fixed it all

#

in SimpleReloadInstance's init function, we have a mutable future reference, and the code also takes an immutable reference to that inside of the forEach that it uses for the thenCombine, well, I was using the future reference instead of making that immutable reference, and adding the immutable reference seemed to fix everything

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of fucking course it did

obtuse gale Jul 22, 2021, 6:51 PM

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Anyone done some rust with oxide?

timber oak Jul 22, 2021, 7:11 PM

#

Kotlin vs Java for plugins?

#

Or am I misunderstanding kotlin

sly sonnet Jul 22, 2021, 7:12 PM

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i think its personal preference

#

there are plugins made in kotlin only

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 7:13 PM

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or made in both

timber oak Jul 22, 2021, 7:13 PM

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But the libraries made in java only works for java right?

#

Or what

static zealot Jul 22, 2021, 7:13 PM

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no

cloud hedge Jul 22, 2021, 8:01 PM

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Can i get a developer to help me for a plugin im willing to make its really tough so please help me

old wyvern Jul 22, 2021, 8:01 PM

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#860006855325122591 #860006856864169985

cloud hedge Jul 22, 2021, 8:02 PM

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They wont anwser because they wont do free work

obtuse gale Jul 22, 2021, 8:02 PM

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asking in the wrong channel isn't very well seen here either

timber oak Jul 22, 2021, 8:24 PM

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cloud hedge Can i get a developer to help me for a plugin im willing to make its really tou...

You can get help in #development but noone will make entire plugins for you there

obtuse gale Jul 22, 2021, 8:30 PM

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timber oak But the libraries made in java only works for java right?

You can use both with each other

old wyvern Jul 22, 2021, 8:32 PM

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😮 that worked!!

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https://www.jetbrains.com/lp/devecosystem-2021/

JetBrains: Developer Tools for Professionals and Teams

The State of Developer Ecosystem in 2021 Infographic

The State of Developer Ecosystem 2021 is a detailed report about the programming community, which covers the latest trends in languages, tools, technologies, and lifestyles of developers.

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😌

steel heart Jul 22, 2021, 8:42 PM

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ASSadKanna

timber oak Jul 22, 2021, 9:33 PM

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I keep forgetting, the java 16 requirement for 1.17+ is just on server side right? Or is it also client-sided?

distant sun Jul 22, 2021, 9:33 PM

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both

timber oak Jul 22, 2021, 9:34 PM

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But you can play 1.17 with just Java 8 installed?

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So minecraft installs java 16 itself?

distant sun Jul 22, 2021, 9:36 PM

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yes it does install java 16

timber oak Jul 22, 2021, 9:36 PM

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Where is that installation located though?

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The version that minecraft installs

distant sun Jul 22, 2021, 9:41 PM

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Idk

forest pecan Jul 22, 2021, 9:47 PM

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timber oak The version that minecraft installs

Maybe look at the java folder

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In the oracle thing you know in the program files

timber oak Jul 22, 2021, 9:48 PM

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Not there

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This kinda confuses me

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So java is installed within the minecraft jar?

steel heart Jul 22, 2021, 9:51 PM

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It installs an appropriate jdk if needed

forest pecan Jul 22, 2021, 9:53 PM

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OpenJDK superior

timber oak Jul 22, 2021, 9:54 PM

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steel heart It installs an appropriate jdk if needed

Yeah just wondering where

obtuse gale Jul 22, 2021, 9:56 PM

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probably in the launcher dir or the default game dir

steel heart Jul 22, 2021, 10:07 PM

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Thought it was in user/jdk or user/.jdk PES_SadShrug

obtuse gale Jul 22, 2021, 10:07 PM

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not the one MC uses by default

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it doesn't install it

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it downloads one from their servers and saves it in the launcher dir I believe

steel heart Jul 22, 2021, 10:08 PM

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Ah okay

onyx loom Jul 22, 2021, 10:10 PM

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steel heart Thought it was in user/jdk or user/.jdk <:PES_SadShrug:646092743378206760>

isnt that what ij uses if u download a jdk from there? idk

old wyvern Jul 22, 2021, 10:30 PM

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Nah

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IJ's ones are installed separately along with IJ files

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"Jetbrains Runtime"

forest pecan Jul 23, 2021, 1:38 AM

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Spring framework isnt that big right?

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isnt it only like a couple megs

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i always hear people joking around how large it is lol

humble silo Jul 23, 2021, 1:45 AM

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forest pecan isnt it only like a couple megs

well like 30 or smth i think

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thats defintely not small

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and do you mean just the core part or all of spring boot/the starters?

onyx loom Jul 23, 2021, 1:46 AM

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its definitely alot bigger than 3kb spigot plugins 💀

cinder flare Jul 23, 2021, 1:47 AM

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i mean depends on how many parts you have

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you can really load em up

humble silo Jul 23, 2021, 1:47 AM

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looks like the core is around 2mb

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Dang https://spring.io/projects

Spring | Projects

Level up your Java code and explore what Spring can do for you.

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Didnt know how many they had

onyx loom Jul 23, 2021, 1:50 AM

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spring... good...?

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 2:38 AM

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Yes 😌

obtuse gale Jul 23, 2021, 3:04 AM

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…asses

half harness Jul 23, 2021, 3:05 AM

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🤣

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 3:15 AM

#

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reminds of this

obtuse gale Jul 23, 2021, 3:16 AM

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Lmfao

hot hull Jul 23, 2021, 6:44 AM

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I love when people post in offer services, and not link any sort of previous work

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 6:45 AM

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😌

distant sun Jul 23, 2021, 7:57 AM

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with .htaccess, how can I redirect only / to a new url? But other redirects like /discord won't be affected?

hot hull Jul 23, 2021, 8:20 AM

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Yes

boreal needle Jul 23, 2021, 9:57 AM

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somebody please send help

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generics are driving me crazy

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https://paste.lucyy.me/xexibebuta why did i think this was a good idea

lucy's pretty pastebin

Lucy's Pretty Pastebin

steel heart Jul 23, 2021, 10:04 AM

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Try pass the type ? super V to Condition maybe

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 10:04 AM

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🥴

steel heart Jul 23, 2021, 10:04 AM

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Assuming the test() takes U, V

frigid badge Jul 23, 2021, 10:10 AM

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distant sun with .htaccess, how can I redirect only `/` to a new url? But other redirects li...

don't use .htaccess

distant sun Jul 23, 2021, 10:11 AM

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@frigid badge you are a genius sometimes

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Idk when but I bet you are!

frigid badge Jul 23, 2021, 10:13 AM

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no for real don't use .htaccess, just edit your nginx config's

distant sun Jul 23, 2021, 10:13 AM

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Ok

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 10:21 AM

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should java records be used everywhere possible?

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intellij often suggests converting things to records but i always got the idea they were supposed to be for DTOs and things

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 10:21 AM

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oh I swear I keep forgetting those exist

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 10:22 AM

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public class YamlObjectLoader implements ObjectLoader {
    private final Yaml yaml;

    @Inject
    public YamlObjectLoader(Yaml yaml) {
        this.yaml = yaml;
    }

    @Override
    public Map<Object, Object> load(Path source) throws IOException {
        return yaml.load(Files.readString(source));
    }
}

``` like this clearly isn't for data representation but it could be a record

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 10:22 AM

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same bm, intellij is not recommending it

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 10:22 AM

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it does for me

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old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 10:22 AM

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uh maybe im doing something wrong

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one sec

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 10:23 AM

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Records are classes that act as transparent carriers for immutable data
Doesn't really seem appropriate

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 10:23 AM

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I have sdk set to 16 and language level at experimental

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 10:23 AM

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huh

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 10:23 AM

#

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Unless this cant be one?

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 10:23 AM

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seems like it could

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 10:24 AM

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weird

quiet depot Jul 23, 2021, 10:24 AM

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ij is just fuken stupid with records

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 10:24 AM

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anyway im more asking if there's any reason to not use records wherever possible

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 10:24 AM

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I dont think so

quiet depot Jul 23, 2021, 10:24 AM

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no reason yet

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 10:24 AM

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the only semantic difference seems to be that it makes private things public

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but who cares

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 10:24 AM

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wdym?

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 10:25 AM

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prisma wave ```java public class YamlObjectLoader implements ObjectLoader { private fina...

as a record yaml is public

quiet depot Jul 23, 2021, 10:25 AM

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if they ever make records more efficient in the jvm then it’ll probs be worth it

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 10:25 AM

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not private

quiet depot Jul 23, 2021, 10:25 AM

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but atm i think records r compiled just like a pojo

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so like no difference

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 10:25 AM

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yeah they are

quiet depot Jul 23, 2021, 10:26 AM

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currently I'm choosing not to make classes like that records

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because it just doesn't make any sense

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 10:26 AM

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A record is basically a “data class,” a special kind of class that is intended to hold pure data in it
yeah it doesn't make a lot of sense

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the example i sent clearly isn't just for holding data

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 10:30 AM

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I think it might be because im on a older version

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uh

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Where did they move the mark directory as menu to in the latest version?

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oh nvm it fixed itself

cinder flare Jul 23, 2021, 10:41 AM

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quiet depot so like no difference

They use faster versions of the string, hashcode, and equals methods

quiet depot Jul 23, 2021, 10:42 AM

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how is it faster

cinder flare Jul 23, 2021, 10:42 AM

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It calls different bytecode I dunno

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 10:42 AM

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I dont think they're neccessarily faster

cinder flare Jul 23, 2021, 10:43 AM

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Maybe not true true

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 10:43 AM

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It just generates an implementation at runtime with method handles

quiet depot Jul 23, 2021, 10:43 AM

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also i will be on a little later to talk about that thing u wanted to talk about in v

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vc

cinder flare Jul 23, 2021, 10:43 AM

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Oh uh

frigid badge Jul 23, 2021, 10:43 AM

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😮

cinder flare Jul 23, 2021, 10:43 AM

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I'm at my parents house right now

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No pc or anything

quiet depot Jul 23, 2021, 10:43 AM

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o

cinder flare Jul 23, 2021, 10:43 AM

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And also supposed to be asleep lol

quiet depot Jul 23, 2021, 10:43 AM

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well in that case lemmo just made an appearance and he knows more than i do about it

cinder flare Jul 23, 2021, 10:43 AM

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😮

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 10:43 AM

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docker?

quiet depot Jul 23, 2021, 10:44 AM

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ecloud

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 10:44 AM

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oh lol

quiet depot Jul 23, 2021, 10:44 AM

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ecloud spring rewrite

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 10:44 AM

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Is that ever going to be a thing?

quiet depot Jul 23, 2021, 10:44 AM

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will come with papi 3

cinder flare Jul 23, 2021, 10:44 AM

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If I can ever get it to boot maybe lol

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 10:44 AM

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So in like 2 decades?

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xD

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🥲

quiet depot Jul 23, 2021, 10:45 AM

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cinder flare If I can ever get it to boot maybe lol

u have to use docker i think

cinder flare Jul 23, 2021, 10:45 AM

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What

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It doesn't have a dockerfile

frigid badge Jul 23, 2021, 10:45 AM

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there's a docker-compose file

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and there is a dockerfile

cinder flare Jul 23, 2021, 10:46 AM

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Oh well I'm blind then nvm

frigid badge Jul 23, 2021, 10:46 AM

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it's garbage though

quiet depot Jul 23, 2021, 10:46 AM

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lel

cinder flare Jul 23, 2021, 10:46 AM

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That would've been good information to put in the readme 🙂

frigid badge Jul 23, 2021, 10:46 AM

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but in #ecloud there's a pinned message iirc

cinder flare Jul 23, 2021, 10:47 AM

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If only I were in that channel 🙃

quiet depot Jul 23, 2021, 10:47 AM

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added

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 10:49 AM

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Updating ij fixed it!

cinder flare Jul 23, 2021, 10:49 AM

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Yay records!

quiet depot Jul 23, 2021, 10:49 AM

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that Integer tho

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 10:50 AM

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😌

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Nullable sadly

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https://github.com/Randgalt/record-builder

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😮

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even better

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yea.... now ijs having a complete stroke

cinder flare Jul 23, 2021, 10:59 AM

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Arrow code: folder edition

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 11:00 AM

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ok deleting .idea fixed it

lunar cypress Jul 23, 2021, 11:05 AM

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deleting .idea

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creating .emacs

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that's how you fix your problems

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 11:05 AM

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😮

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 11:06 AM

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^

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 11:07 AM

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Ok, ij is still messed up

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Now it stops recognizing classes from the same project

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 11:09 AM

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ij bad

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emacs good

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 11:09 AM

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Seriously tho

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ij completely broke

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This is a first

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let me try clearing everything again

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oh wait

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ik whats wrong

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jetbrains tools just opening an old version inbetween for some reason

mild rose Jul 23, 2021, 12:55 PM

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With bungeeguard, it says unable to authenticate, even though I have a token in all of my servers.

lavish notch Jul 23, 2021, 2:45 PM

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mild rose With bungeeguard, it says unable to authenticate, even though I have a token in ...

Did you restart the servers?

mild rose Jul 23, 2021, 2:45 PM

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Yes

static zealot Jul 23, 2021, 3:01 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/so-long-my-friend-bon-voyage-goodbye-farewell-until-we-see-again-gif-15376101

Tenor

timber oak Jul 23, 2021, 3:18 PM

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How would you all set up a rankup system? A Rank class that is created for each player and stored in a hashmap?

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And then a rank level in the constructor maybe?

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To update it, or what would be best

static zealot Jul 23, 2021, 3:36 PM

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I'd usually just use LuckPerms and not bother at all fingerguns

rotund egret Jul 23, 2021, 3:37 PM

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Yeah, if you wanted to do like an "auto rank" system I'd use LPs API.

timber oak Jul 23, 2021, 3:41 PM

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it's not auto, just on a command

static zealot Jul 23, 2021, 3:42 PM

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then just use LP.

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no need to make your own system unless you actually do it to learn I guess.

timber oak Jul 23, 2021, 3:43 PM

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Would the ranks be set up as groups or what?

hot hull Jul 23, 2021, 3:44 PM

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Yes

timber oak Jul 23, 2021, 3:47 PM

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How is luckperms performance-wise?

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It's very good right?

hot hull Jul 23, 2021, 3:47 PM

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luckperms is cherry on the cake

timber oak Jul 23, 2021, 3:48 PM

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Good, thought so but just had to make sure

timber oak Jul 23, 2021, 4:23 PM

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What are the 5 general java rules called? I forgot

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The ones like "only one goal for each class" or something like that

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idk if that makes sense

compact perchBOT Jul 23, 2021, 4:30 PM

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FAQ Answer:

What is SOLID?

S - Single-responsiblity principle
O - Open-closed principle
L - Liskov substitution principle
I - Interface segregation principle
D - Dependency inversion principle

If you wish to read up more on it, you can check here:
https://scotch.io/bar-talk/s-o-l-i-d-the-first-five-principles-of-object-oriented-design

timber oak Jul 23, 2021, 4:30 PM

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Thanks

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Does luckperms take performance from the unused features as well as the features currently in use on the server? Or only the features that are currently being used

steel heart Jul 23, 2021, 4:43 PM

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wym

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I mean luckperms uses what it has to like any other plugin

static zealot Jul 23, 2021, 4:43 PM

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thonking

steel heart Jul 23, 2021, 4:44 PM

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except blitz plugins mbey

static zealot Jul 23, 2021, 4:44 PM

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yeah. mine use everything at every point in time. even if it doesn't need to

steel heart Jul 23, 2021, 4:44 PM

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PES_Why

timber oak Jul 23, 2021, 4:44 PM

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But like, let's say I just want to set up one group and one permission, does it then also take performance to run all those extra features in the config and so on?

static zealot Jul 23, 2021, 4:45 PM

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performance is not something you'll really have to worry with LP

steel heart Jul 23, 2021, 4:45 PM

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if a feature is disabled in config then it simply wont be used

static zealot Jul 23, 2021, 4:45 PM

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unless you do some interesting stuff xD

steel heart Jul 23, 2021, 4:45 PM

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LP is at its finest scalable horizontally

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but with that being said, even a normal minecraft server isn't made to keep up with too many concurrent players so hopefully that limits the expectations for luckperms as well as any other plugin

obtuse gale Jul 23, 2021, 4:49 PM

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There aren't really any "extra features" though

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Rather, the LuckPerms config is all about how things are calculated (+ storage settings)

timber oak Jul 23, 2021, 4:50 PM

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Those calculations won't take a lot of performance I assume?

obtuse gale Jul 23, 2021, 4:51 PM

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The calculations will happen you like it or not, the config only tells LP how things are calculated

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Not if they will happen or not

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But most of LP runs asynchronously from the server thread anyway

timber oak Jul 23, 2021, 4:52 PM

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calculations for what though?

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Not sure what would be calculated with permissions

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and groups

obtuse gale Jul 23, 2021, 4:52 PM

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Tree traversal

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Caching evaluated contexts (per world/server perms, primary group, prefixes etc)

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Precalculating meta values too. LuckPerms is a top notch permissions calculator, there is a lot more that goes on behind the scenes than just "HashMap<String, Boolean>"

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Wildcards, shorthand, group weights

static zealot Jul 23, 2021, 4:58 PM

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but it does it very well and not a lot you need to worry about. the thing you will have to worry about is your code

timber oak Jul 23, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Hmm aight

obtuse gale Jul 23, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Hell, even the commands run async

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LP will be the last thing you'll have to worry about really

timber oak Jul 23, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Alright, ty

obtuse gale Jul 23, 2021, 5:01 PM

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Not to mention it is to my knowledge the only fully functional perms plugin to exist as of today lmfao

distant sun Jul 23, 2021, 5:02 PM

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tldr; em is a lp lover

sweet cipher Jul 23, 2021, 5:02 PM

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obtuse gale Not to mention it is to my knowledge the only fully functional perms plugin to e...

PermissionsEX is 100x better

timber oak Jul 23, 2021, 5:02 PM

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distant sun tldr; em is a lp lover

Well and LP support lol

distant sun Jul 23, 2021, 5:02 PM

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Ik

timber oak Jul 23, 2021, 5:02 PM

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but yeah, still useful information

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 5:02 PM

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obtuse gale Not to mention it is to my knowledge the only fully functional perms plugin to e...

functional you say?

obtuse gale Jul 23, 2021, 5:03 PM

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UltraPermissions being the "main competitor" has broken Vault integration which is vital for many other plugins

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Hilarious

obtuse gale Jul 23, 2021, 5:03 PM

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prisma wave functional you say?

Yes

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LP good

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 5:03 PM

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😮

onyx loom Jul 23, 2021, 5:05 PM

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pex and groupmanager are functional 🙂

obtuse gale Jul 23, 2021, 5:06 PM

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If we're in 2013 yes

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Lmao

timber oak Jul 23, 2021, 5:26 PM

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How does Tuinity work differently?

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Than paper

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World generation right?

rotund egret Jul 23, 2021, 5:32 PM

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Emily is a moderator in LP discord, shilling out for them 👀

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Despite that, it is the best though

steel heart Jul 23, 2021, 5:33 PM

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permissions.yml!

rotund egret Jul 23, 2021, 5:33 PM

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I don't even know what a yml is 😦

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spongeinverse

steel heart Jul 23, 2021, 5:36 PM

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rotund egret Emily is a moderator in LP discord, shilling out for them 👀

iirc 2nd most contributed to LP apart from lucko himself lol

rotund egret Jul 23, 2021, 5:39 PM

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I think you're thinking of someone else

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Turbo?

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No wait you're right, how did I not know that wtf

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@obtuse gale What is this

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Hmm

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Initial Commit

steel heart Jul 23, 2021, 5:44 PM

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😌

obtuse gale Jul 23, 2021, 6:04 PM

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rotund egret <@456226577798135808> What is this

What's what

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Lol

obtuse gale Jul 23, 2021, 6:05 PM

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rotund egret Initial Commit

Best fork https://github.com/zml2008/GroupManager

GitHub

GitHub - zml2008/GroupManager: A permissions plugin for Minecraft s...

A permissions plugin for Minecraft servers. Contribute to zml2008/GroupManager development by creating an account on GitHub.

static zealot Jul 23, 2021, 6:05 PM

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wait what?

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group manager is based on luckperms?

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or is this a "new" group manager?

onyx loom Jul 23, 2021, 6:06 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/joke-dumb-you-gif-8906255

Tenor

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hope this explains it

static zealot Jul 23, 2021, 6:07 PM

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yes

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that's why I asked

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I never knew group manager

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was forked from luckperms

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...

rotund egret Jul 23, 2021, 6:07 PM

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...

static zealot Jul 23, 2021, 6:08 PM

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or is that just the same plugin with the name changed?

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and not the actual group manager

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I'm gonna assume that is the case

onyx loom Jul 23, 2021, 6:09 PM

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omg

#

https://groupmanager.net hahaha

#

obtuse gale Jul 23, 2021, 6:10 PM

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Lol

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 6:49 PM

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lmao

static zealot Jul 23, 2021, 7:38 PM

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https://minecraftfanon.fandom.com/wiki/1.20-_The_End_Update

Minecraft Fanon Wiki

1.20- The End Update

1.20- The End Update | Minecraft Fanon Wiki | Fandom

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why is this a thing?

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where the fuck is the applications folder located at? the one where I edit the desktop icons and stuff

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I thought its in /usr/local but its not

distant sun Jul 23, 2021, 7:45 PM

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Fan Made Updates
smh my smh

static zealot Jul 23, 2021, 7:46 PM

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distant sun > Fan Made Updates smh my smh

I saw that. I am just wondering why

static zealot Jul 23, 2021, 7:47 PM

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static zealot I thought its in /usr/local but its not

was in share not local. fuck

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 8:18 PM

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https://img.bristermitten.me/screen_2021-07-23_21-20-52_jSoq.png

#

i think generics might be my least favourite thing ever

#

omg

#

i have found my new favourite thing

#

https://www.vavr.io/

Vavr

Vavr is an object-functional library for Java 8+

#

public <T> Try<T> load(Class<T> type, Path source) {
        return Try.of(() -> loader.load(source))
                .flatMapTry(map -> mapper.map(map, type));
    }
``` 😌

onyx loom Jul 23, 2021, 8:25 PM

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oh my god

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 8:28 PM

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this makes me so happy

onyx loom Jul 23, 2021, 8:30 PM

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heaven

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 8:30 PM

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prisma wave ```java public <T> Try<T> load(Class<T> type, Path source) { return Try....

😊

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 8:30 PM

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they even somehow added pattern matching to java

#

it's extremely cursed

#

but my god

#

Match(_try).of(
    Case($Success($()), value -> ...),
    Case($Failure($()), x -> ...)
);

#

honestly impressive

onyx loom Jul 23, 2021, 8:32 PM

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what java version can this be used with?

frigid willow Jul 23, 2021, 8:32 PM

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[22:29:10 WARN]: [PlaceholderAPI] Loaded class net.ess3.api.IEssentials from Essentials v2.19.0-dev+221-1556b91 which is not a depend, softdepend or loadbefore of this plugin.
[22:29:10 INFO]: [Vault] Checking for Updates ...
[22:29:10 INFO]: [Essentials] Essentials found a compatible payment resolution method: Vault Compatibility Layer (v1.7.3-b131)!
[22:29:10 INFO]: [Jobs] Successfully linked with Vault.
[22:29:10 INFO]: [Citizens] Loaded 0 NPCs.
[22:29:10 WARN]: [PlaceholderAPI] Loaded class me.ryanhamshire.GriefPrevention.GriefPrevention from GriefPrevention v16.17.1-2b69191 which is not a depend, softdepend or loadbefore of this plugin.
[22:29:10 INFO]: [PlaceholderAPI] Successfully registered expansion: griefprevention
[22:29:10 INFO]: [PlaceholderAPI] Successfully registered expansion: essentials
[22:29:10 WARN]: [PlaceholderAPI] Loaded class net.luckperms.api.LuckPerms from LuckPerms v5.3.47 which is not a depend, softdepend or loadbefore of this plugin.
[22:29:10 INFO]: [PlaceholderAPI] Successfully registered expansion: luckperms
[22:29:10 WARN]: [PlaceholderAPI] Loaded class net.milkbowl.vault.economy.Economy from Vault v1.7.3-b131 which is not a depend, softdepend or loadbefore of this plugin.
[22:29:10 INFO]: [PlaceholderAPI] Successfully registered expansion: vault
[22:29:10 WARN]: [PlaceholderAPI] Loaded class com.bencodez.votingplugin.VotingPluginMain from VotingPlugin v6.5.2 which is not a depend, softdepend or loadbefore of this plugin.

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Any ways How to fix this?

half harness Jul 23, 2021, 8:36 PM

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frigid willow [22:29:10 WARN]: [PlaceholderAPI] Loaded class net.ess3.api.IEssentials from Ess...

wrong channel
What's the issue?

#

You can ignore those warnings

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 8:37 PM

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prisma wave but my god

😌

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 8:37 PM

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onyx loom what java version can this be used with?

probably anything above 8

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 8:37 PM

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I think the record builder I found earlier are also extremely useful

onyx loom Jul 23, 2021, 8:37 PM

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who needs java 11? 🌞

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 8:37 PM

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with that and records, hundreds of lines went

onyx loom Jul 23, 2021, 8:39 PM

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this is actually amazing

obtuse gale Jul 23, 2021, 8:41 PM

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prisma wave https://www.vavr.io/

!!!! I was literally reading that yesterday

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And this other one too, give me a min

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 8:42 PM

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arrow?

onyx loom Jul 23, 2021, 8:42 PM

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bms favourite thing

forest pecan Jul 23, 2021, 8:42 PM

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Welp. I guess that’s another dependency I gotta install

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Lol

obtuse gale Jul 23, 2021, 8:42 PM

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prisma wave arrow?

https://github.com/tonivade/purefun

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 8:43 PM

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onyx loom bms favourite thing

🤤

old wyvern Jul 23, 2021, 8:43 PM

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elara doc when 😔

obtuse gale Jul 23, 2021, 8:43 PM

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Tomorrow night probs

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 8:43 PM

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obtuse gale <https://github.com/tonivade/purefun>

holy heck

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higher kinded types in java??

obtuse gale Jul 23, 2021, 8:43 PM

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That one is delightful

prisma wave Jul 23, 2021, 8:46 PM

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oh boy

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26 files just to load a single yml file

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love it

obtuse gale Jul 23, 2021, 8:46 PM

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😂

distant sun Jul 23, 2021, 8:47 PM

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Nice

cloud hedge Jul 23, 2021, 9:48 PM

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Hello im making a plugin and i dont know if i can add breeding and taming?

sly sonnet Jul 23, 2021, 10:23 PM

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not gonna answer bcuz u spammed all dev channels 😠

static zealot Jul 23, 2021, 10:23 PM

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and dms

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and non dev channels

obtuse gale Jul 23, 2021, 10:24 PM

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asking everywhere = getting help faster

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Right?

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asking everywhere = getting help faster, right?

static zealot Jul 23, 2021, 10:25 PM

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xD

cloud hedge Jul 23, 2021, 10:45 PM

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sly sonnet not gonna answer bcuz u spammed all dev channels 😠

Comon

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I need it

timber oak Jul 24, 2021, 12:20 AM

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Any reason not to use paper API on paper servers?

onyx loom Jul 24, 2021, 12:20 AM

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no? lol

timber oak Jul 24, 2021, 12:20 AM

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thought so lol, just had to make sure

forest pecan Jul 24, 2021, 12:50 AM

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Is there a way to like avoid the try/catch statement inside a lambda?

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    Stream.of(libraryPath, dependencyPath, httpServerPath, vlcPath, imagePath, audioPath, videoPath)
        .forEach(
            p -> {
              try {
                Files.createDirectories(p);
              } catch (IOException e) {
                plugin
                    .getLogger()
                    .log(
                        Level.SEVERE,
                        "[MinecraftMediaLibrary]: A severe I/O exception occurred while trying to create library folders!");
                e.printStackTrace();
              }
            });

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like that try and catch is ugly. But yes ig it is necessary to handle it, but id rather handle it somewhere else

half harness Jul 24, 2021, 12:51 AM

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🥲 so many newlines

forest pecan Jul 24, 2021, 12:51 AM

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google format

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seems like the only way is to create its own method

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🥲

obtuse gale Jul 24, 2021, 12:57 AM

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forest pecan ```java Stream.of(libraryPath, dependencyPath, httpServerPath, vlcPath, imag...

Yes, switch to clojure 😌

forest pecan Jul 24, 2021, 12:58 AM

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🥶

obtuse gale Jul 24, 2021, 12:58 AM

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Wow

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What

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Unfriended

obtuse gale Jul 24, 2021, 12:58 AM

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forest pecan 🥶

How could you say that about clojure

forest pecan Jul 24, 2021, 1:00 AM

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Ended up doing this

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public interface ThrowingConsumer<T, E extends Throwable> {

  static <T, E extends Throwable> Consumer<T> unchecked(
      @NotNull final ThrowingConsumer<T, E> consumer,
      @NotNull final Logger logger,
      @NotNull final Level level,
      @NotNull final String message) {
    return (t) -> {
      try {
        consumer.accept(t);
      } catch (final Throwable e) {
        logger.log(level, message);
        e.printStackTrace();
      }
    };
  }

  void accept(final T t) throws E;
}

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🤡

obtuse gale Jul 24, 2021, 1:01 AM

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lmao

hot hull Jul 24, 2021, 4:27 AM

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May I ask what the fock is going on with request paid, have people become idiots again with their budgets or what

sweet cipher Jul 24, 2021, 4:32 AM

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Yeah they are offering way too much

civic cairn Jul 24, 2021, 7:31 AM

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forest pecan like that try and catch is ugly. But yes ig it is necessary to handle it, but id...

Apache commons failable stream tho

steel heart Jul 24, 2021, 8:08 AM

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https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.spigotmc/spigot-api?repo=extendedclip-public 🤔

steel heart Jul 24, 2021, 8:12 AM

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civic cairn Apache commons failable stream tho

I believe spigot uses commons Lang 2.6, does it exist there also?

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Oh wtf

unkempt tangle Jul 24, 2021, 8:37 AM

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Did ya folks ever heard of baritone?

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A pathfinder bot for Minecraft

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Where is senpai:c

hot hull Jul 24, 2021, 8:51 AM

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steel heart Oh wtf

Aren't both of these idiots joking around kek

frigid willow Jul 24, 2021, 10:28 AM

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hello I have a question

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about deluxemenu

steel heart Jul 24, 2021, 10:28 AM

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#general-plugins

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What r u trying to do buddy

static zealot Jul 24, 2021, 10:43 AM

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you can just use the ChangeOutput expansion

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/papi ecloud download changeoutput /papi reload

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and you can read here how it works: https://github.com/Kqliber/Expansion-ChangeOutput

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ugh

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%changeoutput_equals_{essentials_afk}_true_yes_no%

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so this will parse essentials_afk

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and if it is true

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it will output yes

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otherwise it will output no

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yeah think that will probably work

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can we move to #general-plugins please?

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I've just realised we're in the wrong channel

prisma wave Jul 24, 2021, 10:59 AM

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Bruh placeholders are pretty much Turing complete at this point

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Crazy

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Coming soon: placeholderapi written in nothing but placeholders

timber oak Jul 24, 2021, 11:56 AM

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Would it be difficult to host a Linux screen on google, like so you can use the console on google or whatever

cloud hedge Jul 24, 2021, 12:13 PM

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Im trying to convert my block item file to a optifine entity but it messes up the rotation is there a way i can do this without messing the rotation?

mild rose Jul 24, 2021, 1:05 PM

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I can't figure out why Bungeeguard isn't working

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the tokens are the same on every server but it still says "Unable to authenticate"

ocean quartz Jul 24, 2021, 1:05 PM

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#minecraft