#dev-general | HelpChat | Page 544

obtuse gale Jul 6, 2021, 11:31 PM

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And by a lot I mean a huge fucking lot

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:31 PM

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yeah. ther's also still small businesses that only take cash. like small grocery stores and stuff

frail glade Jul 6, 2021, 11:31 PM

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I rarely have cash on me. Maybe $10.

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:31 PM

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well I never have cash

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but I also don't have money on the card

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either

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fingerguns

frail glade Jul 6, 2021, 11:31 PM

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My parents say keep like $20 on me in case you get robbed.

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:31 PM

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static zealot but I also don't have money on the card

is it not linked to your bank account?

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i don't understand the concept of "money on the card", it's not like a visa gift card or something right?

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:32 PM

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cinder flare is it not linked to your bank account?

I don't have money in my bank account

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:32 PM

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oh what lmao

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:32 PM

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I have 1.72 ron

obtuse gale Jul 6, 2021, 11:32 PM

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AutoSell Barry

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:32 PM

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or something like that

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as I said, I get them out and use them

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:32 PM

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you don't like... save up for anything?

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or a rainy day fund or something

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:32 PM

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I do

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cash

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:32 PM

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oh damn

obtuse gale Jul 6, 2021, 11:32 PM

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Lmao saving

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:32 PM

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my parents always saved cash as well

frail glade Jul 6, 2021, 11:32 PM

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Investments

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:32 PM

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but also I am not at a stage where I can save anything

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:33 PM

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i've never even possessed more than like $100 on my person

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:33 PM

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spent all my savings on my car

frail glade Jul 6, 2021, 11:33 PM

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^^^

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:33 PM

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cinder flare i've never even possessed more than like $100 on my person

I don't take them with me.

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:33 PM

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i just mean at all

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like I've never held more than $100

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i just have a bank account for my savings and stuff

frail glade Jul 6, 2021, 11:33 PM

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We have a wide diversity of backgrounds

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:33 PM

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I also hate banks

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:33 PM

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yeah seriously lol

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:33 PM

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forgot to mention that?

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most people here do

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:33 PM

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oh yeah that might be a notable difference lmao

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:33 PM

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because they love taking the houses from people

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and leaving them in the streets with nothing

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:34 PM

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i mean don't use your house as collateral for a loan maybe?

frail glade Jul 6, 2021, 11:34 PM

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Well that typically happens when you take out a loan on a house and can't pay it back.

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:34 PM

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lemme give you an example of someone I Know

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1 sec

frail glade Jul 6, 2021, 11:34 PM

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Again, this might vary per country.

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:34 PM

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will write a short story

obtuse gale Jul 6, 2021, 11:34 PM

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On real life or game?

frail glade Jul 6, 2021, 11:34 PM

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Our style of living in the US might be different than from Blitz's country.

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:35 PM

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frail glade Well that typically happens when you take out a loan on a house and can't pay it...

A family friend took a loan and he bought an appartment on it, and he was basically paying back monthly and he paid like 20k euros from the 30k he had to pay, missed one month and they took the appartment and sold it for 10k to someone.

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...

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they basically paid 20k for rent

obtuse gale Jul 6, 2021, 11:35 PM

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The US is different from a lot of countries though

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:35 PM

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bczs of 1 month

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:35 PM

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I mean that's like how loans work Blitz

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:35 PM

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...

obtuse gale Jul 6, 2021, 11:35 PM

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This money ?

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:35 PM

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yeah star

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:35 PM

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I doubt a bank here would be that brutal

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:35 PM

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that's why no one fucking gets them

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fuck loans

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and fuck banks too

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:35 PM

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I mean how are you supposed to buy things?

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:35 PM

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they can suck my dick and choke on them

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:35 PM

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cinder flare I mean how are you supposed to buy things?

save up money

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:36 PM

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you're gonna save up $20k?

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:36 PM

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did you know Romania has the highest rate of owning the house they live in?

obtuse gale Jul 6, 2021, 11:36 PM

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The moment you get a loan you get a problem

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:36 PM

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its 9x% percent

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forgot the exact percentage

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:36 PM

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obtuse gale The moment you get a loan you get a problem

that's how our economy is built lmao

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:36 PM

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yeah Star

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here banks are fucking hated

frail glade Jul 6, 2021, 11:36 PM

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Again, the economy is a lot different based on the country. The banks here can sieze so much more variety of assets than his country might be able to which is why banks will give that loan.

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But typically you have to show up front you can afford to pay it back.

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:36 PM

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yea

obtuse gale Jul 6, 2021, 11:36 PM

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static zealot here banks are fucking hated

The Bank say its my money not your GG

frail glade Jul 6, 2021, 11:37 PM

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Okay we can let Blitz go to bed now.

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:37 PM

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also should we talk about bank accounts dissapearing?

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:37 PM

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static zealot also should we talk about bank accounts dissapearing?

what do you mean

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:37 PM

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Person I Know worked for bank and they would close bank accounts for people and get rid of evidence of them ever existing

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:37 PM

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wtf

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:37 PM

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yeah..

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:37 PM

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do you guys not have government regulation

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or is the government just weak af

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and doesn't enforc eit

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:38 PM

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they're just as corrupt

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all you need to give them is around 20% of what you got

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or something like that

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and they don't give a fuck anymore

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:38 PM

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damn wtf

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:38 PM

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you just need to know the right people that's all

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:38 PM

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have you considered moving to a modern country

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:38 PM

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nah

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I actually have set my mind to never leave this country

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and have done this successfully for 19 years

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:38 PM

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now that... is impressive

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:39 PM

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even tho I had a chance to go to portugal for 2 weeks for free

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well not really free

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it was more like an internship at some it company

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but yeah the people that did go, did absolutely nothing just had fun for 2 weeks. I have decided to stay

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:40 PM

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frail glade Okay we can let Blitz go to bed now.

yeah xd BYE

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:40 PM

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that uh, doesn't seem smart

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but okay

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:40 PM

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it might not be. never said its smart

obtuse gale Jul 6, 2021, 11:40 PM

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Government regulations OMEGALULW

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:40 PM

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xD

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:40 PM

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obtuse gale Government regulations OMEGALULW

what's a regulation?
even better
what's a government?

frail glade Jul 6, 2021, 11:40 PM

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BED. TIME.

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:41 PM

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🥲

obtuse gale Jul 6, 2021, 11:41 PM

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The only regulations they impose are those that benefit them

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:41 PM

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yeah man here the FTC will flip their shit if anything happens bad

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everyone's bank accounts are insured up to like a million dollars from FICO or something

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so even if a bank closes down you still get your money

static zealot Jul 6, 2021, 11:42 PM

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yeah nah. there's a lot of fraud and a lot of money going missing

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as I said even in our school

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there was money that went missing

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that was suppose to go to the smart kids

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and it would've totalled up to like 100k euro or maybe even more

obtuse gale Jul 6, 2021, 11:43 PM

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That is really common in here as well lmao
There is literally a huge international network of corrupt agencies involving drug and gun trafficking and all that shit

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:43 PM

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the FDIC insures deposits in member banks up to US$250,000 per ownership category.[5] FDIC insurance is backed by the full faith and credit of the government of the United States of America, since its inception in 1933 no depositor has ever lost a penny of FDIC-insured funds.[6][7]

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so yeah you're guaranteed to $250k per account

obtuse gale Jul 6, 2021, 11:45 PM

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Hundreds upon hundreds of millions of dollars being laundered belonging to a handful of people that "work for the poor".. and are up in the government

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:45 PM

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well that is not good

obtuse gale Jul 6, 2021, 11:46 PM

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Give this a read and I'll tell you what happened after
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notebook_scandal

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Spoiler alert: nothing

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Also this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Route_of_the_K-Money

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I just want to move to Canadia :PepeCry:

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:50 PM

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canada?

obtuse gale Jul 6, 2021, 11:51 PM

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Yeah

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:51 PM

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yeah canada is nice

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have you applied for a visa or anything?

obtuse gale Jul 6, 2021, 11:55 PM

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Well I have an Italian citizenship and passport which that alone opens up a lot of opportunities, though I need to renew the passport

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Not like I can afford moving now anyway 🥲

cinder flare Jul 6, 2021, 11:56 PM

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damn what Italian!

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that's cool af

obtuse gale Jul 6, 2021, 11:56 PM

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It would be cooler if I knew any Italian :^)

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Shit I need to cook D:

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 12:00 AM

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spaghet time

half harness Jul 7, 2021, 12:21 AM

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lol

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spaghetti 😋

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#860006855325122591 message
O_o

eternal compass Jul 7, 2021, 1:00 AM

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how often should I commit?

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well, is this commit to big?

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https://github.com/Fredthedoggy/BOneBlock/commit/f796a10bb42a66f19eed50eddc61d0e0f3b3cadd

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since I've heard I should do it more often

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but idk how often is good

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 1:01 AM

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I mean it all depends

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I'd say that's okay

eternal compass Jul 7, 2021, 1:01 AM

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okay 👍

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 1:01 AM

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Really it should be "incremental", as in if you need to role it back it shouldn't have a bunch of weird side effects

eternal compass Jul 7, 2021, 1:02 AM

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well that commit was one big change

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 1:02 AM

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Then when you merge to master you can squash into one nice commit message that tells the whole feature

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So there's really no problem with making too many commits

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But yeah I'd keep it to like small features per commit

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Nothing huge

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Undoable if you need to without like ruining a bunch of stuff

eternal compass Jul 7, 2021, 1:02 AM

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I never merge into master except for releases which I never do, because this is a private fork (my server's fork of a public plugin)

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 1:03 AM

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oh well I mean

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you should still be working in feature branches

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or at least a dev branch

eternal compass Jul 7, 2021, 1:03 AM

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I am

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dw

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I'm in develop

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 1:03 AM

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and then you merge into a branch when it's stableish?

eternal compass Jul 7, 2021, 1:04 AM

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well, upstream (AOneBlock) merges into master on releases

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I haven't decided what I should do

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since I can't merge their code, I gotta merge my code in, but that makes it behind & ahead commits which is wierd

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 1:04 AM

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as good practice, you should definitely have one branch that is always able to be built and be mostly stable

eternal compass Jul 7, 2021, 1:05 AM

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thats my develop branch

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develop is tested & stable

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master is releases ig

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 1:05 AM

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oh okay

obtuse gale Jul 7, 2021, 1:05 AM

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I keep on getting an error with my player being null, ive debugged for hours

logs: https://paste.helpch.at/onanucumow.cs
code: https://paste.helpch.at/uwinarugeh.java

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 1:05 AM

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well that's okay then

eternal compass Jul 7, 2021, 1:05 AM

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👍

eternal compass Jul 7, 2021, 1:05 AM

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obtuse gale I keep on getting an error with my player being null, ive debugged for hours lo...

#development

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 1:05 AM

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obtuse gale I keep on getting an error with my player being null, ive debugged for hours lo...

rankAPI is null

obtuse gale Jul 7, 2021, 1:05 AM

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oh

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 1:05 AM

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considering you never set it in a constructor or anything

stray depot Jul 7, 2021, 2:39 AM

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Yesterday I used to add load: POSTWORLD in plugin.yml and it still prompts that location is null

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Block block = location.getBlock();

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When server start,the location world not load cause this problem.

obtuse gale Jul 7, 2021, 2:42 AM

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What's the rest of the code

stray depot Jul 7, 2021, 2:43 AM

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Location location = new Location(Bukkit.getWorld(split[0]), (double)Integer.parseInt(split[1]), (double)Integer.parseInt(split[2]), (double)Integer.parseInt(split[3]));
Material material = Material.valueOf(split[5]);
Byte data = Byte.parseByte(split[6]);
Block block = location.getBlock();

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https://pastebin.com/sRVZNnsx

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When server start ,the plugin get data.yml location information.

obtuse gale Jul 7, 2021, 2:46 AM

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And where are you calling that exactly

stray depot Jul 7, 2021, 2:47 AM

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from data.yml get X ,Y ,Z ,then new loacation.

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Then i start server ,i get a error ,location is NULL

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Someone said that when the server started, the world of location was not loaded. I thought that this might be the problem. But I use its method to add load: POSTWORLD to plugin.yml and still get the same error. location is NULL

obtuse gale Jul 7, 2021, 2:51 AM

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Not really what I asked

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Where are you calling that function

stray depot Jul 7, 2021, 2:52 AM

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onEnable

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public void onEnable() {
instance = this;
this.registerConfig();
this.fixWorldNames();
this.registerListeners();
this.registerBlocks();
}

obtuse gale Jul 7, 2021, 2:54 AM

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Is it a "custom" world? By custom I mean that is not the one in server.properties level-name

stray depot Jul 7, 2021, 2:55 AM

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yes it is a custom world.

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Not world,

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If i use world ,everything is ok.

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If i use newdiyu world ,location is NULL

obtuse gale Jul 7, 2021, 2:56 AM

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Then you need to load it first, Bukkit only loads the one named in server properties

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Check out the WorldCreator class

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Or uh something like that

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Don't quite remember :')

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d;spigot WorldCreator

ruby craterBOT Jul 7, 2021, 2:57 AM

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org.bukkit.WorldCreator

public class WorldCreator
extends Object```
WorldCreator has 12 methods, and  1 extensions.

Description:

Represents various types of options that may be used to create a world.

obtuse gale Jul 7, 2021, 2:57 AM

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Yeeee

stray depot Jul 7, 2021, 3:06 AM

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How to write code to load the world? I have not written about this. Can you help me?

obtuse gale Jul 7, 2021, 3:11 AM

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Well I haven't exactly used this either, but I guess you can World world = WorldCreator.name(name).createWorld();?

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Try and see lol

hot hull Jul 7, 2021, 3:23 AM

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This a new thing?

obtuse gale Jul 7, 2021, 3:29 AM

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WorldCreator? That's how Multiverse or Hyperverse are able to load/create and unload worlds

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It's been on Bukkit since forever

forest pecan Jul 7, 2021, 3:31 AM

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^

hot hull Jul 7, 2021, 3:33 AM

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First time seeing it lol

narrow plover Jul 7, 2021, 4:56 AM

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I'm trying to make a browser extension that fixes some sports table formatting on a website. I have the Javascript and that works fine when I run it from the browser console, however I can't get the javascript to run when I install it as an extension. This is my manifest file:

{
  "manifest_version": 2,
  "name": "ProLeague.de Table Fixer",
  "version": "0.1",
  "author": "John Yuki",
  "description": "Removes folded teams from league tables and updates the table accordingly to make it appear as if the folded teams never existed in the table.",
  
  "content_scripts": [
    {
      "matches": ["https://www.proleague.de/league.php?league=int2#table"],
      "js": ["proleague-table-fixer.js"]
    }
  ]
}
``` Anyone know why it isn't running the javascript file when I'm on that url? This is the js file: https://hastebin.com/ideferelaf.js

next ledge Jul 7, 2021, 5:41 AM

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Wtf is this server

quiet depot Jul 7, 2021, 5:49 AM

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@next ledge #introduction

obtuse gale Jul 7, 2021, 5:53 AM

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lol

quiet sierra Jul 7, 2021, 6:53 AM

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stray depot When server start ,the plugin get data.yml location information.

I swear I can't stand looking at .yml files for storage anymore

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I make proprietary formats to save on reading and disk space

prisma wave Jul 7, 2021, 6:53 AM

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^

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Real developer

quiet sierra Jul 7, 2021, 6:54 AM

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I had like 2 minute startup times on servers

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that were just reading a .yml file

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and caching it

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I made a proprietary format and it instantly loaded

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could convert from and to yml

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and used 1/3rd of the disk space

hot hull Jul 7, 2021, 6:57 AM

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Spending unnecessary amounts of time on something that in the end doesn't even affect performance

quiet sierra Jul 7, 2021, 6:57 AM

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bruh those startup times added up quick

hot hull Jul 7, 2021, 6:57 AM

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Why you using file storage all together is the real question

quiet sierra Jul 7, 2021, 6:57 AM

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it was some persistent cache

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it took me like 5 mins to make the proprietary format so

hot hull Jul 7, 2021, 6:58 AM

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Jucky, no persistence needed just don't turn off the server

quiet sierra Jul 7, 2021, 6:58 AM

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well yes but actually no

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Persistence was needed

stray depot Jul 7, 2021, 6:59 AM

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Is there any way to load this world with given coordinates?

quiet sierra Jul 7, 2021, 6:59 AM

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just load the world ???

stray depot Jul 7, 2021, 6:59 AM

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yes

quiet sierra Jul 7, 2021, 7:00 AM

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thonking

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My probably horrible way of loading a world is just
new WorldCreator(name).createWorld();

tranquil crane Jul 7, 2021, 7:01 AM

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I feel like that's the way you're supposed to do it

obtuse gale Jul 7, 2021, 7:01 AM

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lol we went through this already

quiet sierra Jul 7, 2021, 7:01 AM

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idk I haven't messed with big part of the bukkit api for a few weeks

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I only listen to packets, not events

stray depot Jul 7, 2021, 7:10 AM

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But after i use new WorldCreator(name).createWorld();

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I get a NULL.

stray depot Jul 7, 2021, 7:23 AM

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obtuse gale lol we went through this already

Thank you very much.I solve it.

stray depot Jul 7, 2021, 7:23 AM

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quiet sierra <:thonking:379541184697204736>

Thank you very much.

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foggy pond Jul 7, 2021, 9:01 AM

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What should be the name of a git remote

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Is origin fine I am not sure what it should be based off

lunar cypress Jul 7, 2021, 9:05 AM

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depends on what the remote is

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origin is usually the default you're tracking from

foggy pond Jul 7, 2021, 9:06 AM

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Okay

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O.o

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I pushed and commited my project onto my repository but my repository is completely empty

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Weird

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Figured it out I guess

distant sun Jul 7, 2021, 12:51 PM

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half harness Jul 7, 2021, 12:53 PM

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distant sun great game https://i.imgur.com/TU7NJH4.png

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static zealot Jul 7, 2021, 1:32 PM

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oh boy... i just decided to go thru the paid requests and there are some gems in there 🥲

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I was like, 100+ budget, that mean's his serious, then I've seen 100/mo and requires at least 3 hours of work per day 🥲

hot hull Jul 7, 2021, 1:36 PM

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Indeed

onyx loom Jul 7, 2021, 1:37 PM

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thats just over $1 per hour pog

static zealot Jul 7, 2021, 1:39 PM

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onyx loom thats just over $1 per hour pog

and that's only if you get the weekends free xD

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did paper fix this?

distant sun Jul 7, 2021, 2:05 PM

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yes

old wyvern Jul 7, 2021, 2:16 PM

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ayyyyy

prisma wave Jul 7, 2021, 2:19 PM

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nice nice

distant sun Jul 7, 2021, 2:25 PM

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static zealot Jul 7, 2021, 2:28 PM

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old wyvern ayyyyy

can't find it. u sure u sent the whole thing?

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it says that I'll find it attached

old wyvern Jul 7, 2021, 2:29 PM

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xD

lunar cypress Jul 7, 2021, 2:29 PM

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static zealot Jul 7, 2021, 2:29 PM

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🥲

old wyvern Jul 7, 2021, 2:30 PM

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There you go blitz 😄

static zealot Jul 7, 2021, 2:30 PM

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thank you very much!

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frail glade Jul 7, 2021, 2:40 PM

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I almost didn't even look at who sent that before clicking that hammer.

static zealot Jul 7, 2021, 2:40 PM

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lmao

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xD

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:)))

lunar cypress Jul 7, 2021, 2:41 PM

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burnt moth Jul 7, 2021, 3:14 PM

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Anyone knows a good way of making a scoreboard ?

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I mean a pretty one

static zealot Jul 7, 2021, 3:15 PM

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buy kiteboard fingerguns

burnt moth Jul 7, 2021, 3:16 PM

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I mean

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not as a library

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and in my plugin

steel heart Jul 7, 2021, 3:48 PM

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shade kiteboard

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fingerguns

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old wyvern Jul 7, 2021, 7:19 PM

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Arhwpgwhgghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

hallow crane Jul 7, 2021, 7:33 PM

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I am about to 1up hypixel. I am going to make a custom kubernetes scalable deployment system for servers

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 7:39 PM

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have fun with java and slow server startup times

hallow crane Jul 7, 2021, 7:41 PM

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it will be fast

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I am not using rust because I don't know rust

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I don't want to create a luckperms from scratch

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 7:44 PM

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i know im just memeing on ya

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but seriously paper servers take like 30 seconds to spin up

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so like... yikes

old wyvern Jul 7, 2021, 7:45 PM

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You could build something with minestom

hallow crane Jul 7, 2021, 7:45 PM

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thats not bad

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and i'll use cuberite or purpur

old wyvern Jul 7, 2021, 7:45 PM

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https://github.com/Minestom/Minestom

hallow crane Jul 7, 2021, 7:45 PM

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ill check that out too

old wyvern Jul 7, 2021, 7:46 PM

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alr

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 7:50 PM

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that's like the same thing as Feather but still in Java lmao

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does seem pretty cool tho

old wyvern Jul 7, 2021, 7:53 PM

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Feather is a server implementation right?

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Minestom doesnt implement any of vanillas features

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its a bare bones server with extensive api for additions

ocean quartz Jul 7, 2021, 7:54 PM

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Krypton

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 7:55 PM

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old wyvern Feather is a server implementation right?

well yeah a barebones server impl

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but you'd want part of the server implemented anyways for minigames 🥲

old wyvern Jul 7, 2021, 7:56 PM

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it has a separate reimplementation of vanilla if someone were to require that

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 7:56 PM

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oh huh

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maybe it's cool i dunno

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just reminded me of feather

old wyvern Jul 7, 2021, 7:56 PM

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but mostly its supposed to be an api to build up a server from scratch with only what you want

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As lightweight as possible

obtuse gale Jul 7, 2021, 7:57 PM

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"vanilla addon"

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 7:57 PM

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huh like a build your own server

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that's cool

old wyvern Jul 7, 2021, 7:57 PM

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mhm

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https://github.com/Minestom/VanillaReimplementation

prisma wave Jul 7, 2021, 8:08 PM

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MineHraft

old wyvern Jul 7, 2021, 8:09 PM

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😌

steel heart Jul 7, 2021, 8:23 PM

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Minestom is like pog since they use mixins

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 8:23 PM

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but imagine Minestorm

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but in a language without garbage collection 👀

steel heart Jul 7, 2021, 8:23 PM

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yeah

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well

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idk

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the name

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oh

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anyways feels slightly unstable

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just me probably

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 8:24 PM

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well yeah I mean everything except the official minecraft server is probably unstable

steel heart Jul 7, 2021, 8:24 PM

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yup

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mf-leaderboards

steel heart Jul 7, 2021, 8:24 PM

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cinder flare well yeah I mean everything except the official minecraft server is probably uns...

myeah

forest pecan Jul 7, 2021, 8:24 PM

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Wait is that a thing now

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?mf

compact perchBOT Jul 7, 2021, 8:24 PM

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FAQ Answer:

Looking for useful libraries/frameworks?
Here are some which have been deemed useful by the community and are used daily.
-> Menus: https://mf.mattstudios.me/mf-gui/gui
-> Commands: https://mf.mattstudios.me/mf/mf-1/getting-started
-> Messages: https://mf.mattstudios.me/message/mf-msg
-> Config: COMING SOON™️

steel heart Jul 7, 2021, 8:24 PM

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no I was joking lol

forest pecan Jul 7, 2021, 8:25 PM

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Oh lol

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 8:25 PM

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config definitely exists

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are you having a hard time keeping track of the data or displaying it?

steel heart Jul 7, 2021, 8:26 PM

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I'm certain something like bkcommonlib or helper got something which could help you

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 8:26 PM

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updating the data or updating the display lmao

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ah well yeah use like holographicdisplay that's a good one

steel heart Jul 7, 2021, 8:28 PM

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nonono

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change the display line of the hologram

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yeah

ocean quartz Jul 7, 2021, 8:36 PM

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cinder flare config definitely exists

Not documented yet

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 8:37 PM

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sadly 🥲

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just look through my message history with you around the time I implemented it and that's documentation

ocean quartz Jul 7, 2021, 8:38 PM

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I kinda wanna change it to be more dynamic and less dependant on static constants

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 8:39 PM

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how do you mean

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like you can determine types of the config at runtime?

prisma wave Jul 7, 2021, 8:43 PM

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static constants implies the existence of non-static constants

static zealot Jul 7, 2021, 8:50 PM

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➡️ Today at 18:50 UTC Mojang has officially backported the blacklist bypass exploit (SRV method).

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what does this mean?

steel heart Jul 7, 2021, 8:50 PM

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@ModifyConstant fingerguns

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 8:50 PM

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static zealot what does this mean?

you could probably use SRV records to get around the mojang blacklist

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and they brought the fix to every version of minecraft

steel heart Jul 7, 2021, 8:51 PM

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Sounds mean

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Cant sell elytras anymore and get away

obtuse gale Jul 7, 2021, 8:52 PM

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Does VPS related to this topic?

steel heart Jul 7, 2021, 8:52 PM

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Uh

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Not really

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 8:52 PM

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what do you want to ask?

ocean quartz Jul 7, 2021, 8:59 PM

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cinder flare like you can determine types of the config at runtime?

Like for example if you want to set a default value from a json file (let's say you're getting it from crowdin) you can't because the properties are all constants well you can with some hacky tricks, I want to make this easier

ocean quartz Jul 7, 2021, 8:59 PM

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prisma wave static constants implies the existence of non-static constants

A pleonasm

cinder flare Jul 7, 2021, 9:00 PM

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ah I see

steel heart Jul 7, 2021, 9:02 PM

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Mixins

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PES_Blush

lunar cypress Jul 7, 2021, 9:04 PM

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prisma wave static constants implies the existence of non-static constants

https://tenor.com/view/he-is-speaking-guy-explaining-with-a-whiteboard-some-guy-explaining-gif-19593300

Tenor

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that is a logical fallacy because

prisma wave Jul 7, 2021, 9:09 PM

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😩

obtuse gale Jul 7, 2021, 10:36 PM

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why the hell is AbstractMap#put not abstract... it literally throws UOE unless you override it

onyx loom Jul 7, 2021, 10:37 PM

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🙂

steel heart Jul 7, 2021, 10:58 PM

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https://mongodb.github.io/mongo-java-driver/3.6/javadoc/com/mongodb/connection/AsynchronousSocketChannelStreamFactoryFactory.Builder.html

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holy

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mongo is like enterprisy

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almost spring level

ember thunder Jul 8, 2021, 12:02 AM

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Hi there

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How can i access the deluxemenu meta info

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Its save in the player.dat

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As i want it to save in a mongo database

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 12:21 AM

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I am 99% sure it's just persistent data thingy from spigot

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So wherever spigot stores it i guess

ember thunder Jul 8, 2021, 1:48 AM

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static zealot So wherever spigot stores it i guess

where that would be?

frail glade Jul 8, 2021, 1:49 AM

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org.bukkit.persistence.PersistentDataType

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Go figure out where that gets stored.

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You'll find your answer.

ember thunder Jul 8, 2021, 1:51 AM

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Thanks guys! appreciate.

frail glade Jul 8, 2021, 1:51 AM

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🙂

potent nest Jul 8, 2021, 5:04 AM

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obtuse gale why the hell is `AbstractMap#put` not `abstract`... it literally throws UOE unle...

Because a Map isn’t required to be mutable

distant sun Jul 8, 2021, 5:39 AM

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frail glade Go figure out where that gets stored.

BukkitPublicSmth tag

distant sun Jul 8, 2021, 7:10 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/MinecraftCommands/comments/oeg4rx/i_made_that_sheeps_can_change_color_with_flowers/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 😮

r/MinecraftCommands - I made that sheeps can change color with flow...

2,251 votes and 58 comments so far on Reddit

distant sun Jul 8, 2021, 8:17 AM

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Lets say I have 15 items that will be divided into groups of 7 items, how can I return how many groups will be created (in this case, 3)?

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 8:25 AM

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huh?

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15/7 and then add one more if 15%7 > 0

ocean quartz Jul 8, 2021, 8:28 AM

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return items.chunked(7).size()

:relieved:

distant sun Jul 8, 2021, 8:28 AM

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static zealot 15/7 and then add one more if 15%7 > 0

Ic

quiet sierra Jul 8, 2021, 9:38 AM

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distant sun Lets say I have 15 items that will be divided into groups of 7 items, how can I ...

Math.ceil(items / groupSize)

distant sun Jul 8, 2021, 9:39 AM

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nope, that returns 2 for 15 / 7

quiet sierra Jul 8, 2021, 9:39 AM

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Weird

sturdy swan Jul 8, 2021, 9:39 AM

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distant sun https://www.reddit.com/r/MinecraftCommands/comments/oeg4rx/i_made_that_sheeps_ca...

I dont get how people can do this with commandblocks

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like with plugins ye thats kinda easy

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but with commandblocks?

distant sun Jul 8, 2021, 9:39 AM

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yup

quiet sierra Jul 8, 2021, 9:40 AM

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Lots of execute

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and relative position

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and fallingsand

sturdy swan Jul 8, 2021, 9:40 AM

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distant sun nope, that returns 2 for 15 / 7

make sure your groupSize is a double

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if you divide two integers it will return an integer (2)

distant sun Jul 8, 2021, 9:41 AM

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true

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I always forget about this smh

sturdy swan Jul 8, 2021, 9:41 AM

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if groupSize is a double it will return a double (2.whatever) which will then ciel to 3

quiet sierra Jul 8, 2021, 9:41 AM

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Don't feel bad gaby

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I spent 6 hours debugging some stuff

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That wasn't working properly because my IDE forced me to cast to short unecessarily

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I removed the short cast and it magically worked

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 9:49 AM

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smh imagine having to debug your code

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mine just works every time

quiet sierra Jul 8, 2021, 9:49 AM

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mine works 90% of the time

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 9:50 AM

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I've never had to write 1 debug line, not even test it. I Just knew it works

quiet sierra Jul 8, 2021, 9:51 AM

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hacks

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 9:55 AM

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tf?

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2021, 9:55 AM

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How to set Player Head in DeluxeMenuns

distant sun Jul 8, 2021, 9:55 AM

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wrong channel

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 9:55 AM

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static zealot tf?

game started 20 seconds faster xD

quiet sierra Jul 8, 2021, 9:56 AM

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#off-topic

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 9:57 AM

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quiet sierra <#164523548390457355>

no!

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I don't want to

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what you going to do about it?

quiet sierra Jul 8, 2021, 9:57 AM

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bully you

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you're staff team

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not following the rules

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that means you suck as staff

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imma report you to the fbi for sucking as staff

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complete disrespect

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 9:59 AM

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k

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also what rules?

quiet sierra Jul 8, 2021, 10:00 AM

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#rules "Do's - 3"

old wyvern Jul 8, 2021, 10:00 AM

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static zealot what you going to do about it?

quiet sierra Jul 8, 2021, 10:00 AM

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Stay on topic

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 10:01 AM

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idk what you talking about

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 10:01 AM

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old wyvern

when your brain goes numb you can call that mental sleep

old wyvern Jul 8, 2021, 10:02 AM

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static zealot when your brain goes numb you can call that mental sleep

When these people talk too much, put that shit in slow motion, yeah

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 10:03 AM

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old wyvern When these people talk too much, put that shit in slow motion, yeah

idk all the lyrics yeah

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too lazy to google as well

burnt moth Jul 8, 2021, 10:25 AM

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Is this recommended ?

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https://github.com/bizarre/Glaedr

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 10:25 AM

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its not been updated in 5 years. so probably no

burnt moth Jul 8, 2021, 10:25 AM

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I see ...

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even if I'm on 1.8 ?

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 10:26 AM

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take a look at this maybe? https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/65455/

burnt moth Jul 8, 2021, 10:27 AM

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Well I've already tried it

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and you have to use ProtocolLib

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 10:27 AM

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https://github.com/MinusKube/Netherboard

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https://github.com/Infumia/InfumiaLib

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oh wait nvm

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the latest one seems to be more than just scoreboard

burnt moth Jul 8, 2021, 10:28 AM

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:derp:

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 10:29 AM

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https://github.com/MrMicky-FR/FastBoard

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but these 2 seem alr

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so u can try both

burnt moth Jul 8, 2021, 10:29 AM

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Okay, I'll give those a try then

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Do I have to create a new board every time, if I'm on a different class ?

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 10:30 AM

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what class?

burnt moth Jul 8, 2021, 10:30 AM

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I was using this

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https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/scoreboard-api-1-8.160095/

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The scores went down from -1 to -15

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but okay then

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I'll give a try to the ones you sent

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 10:32 AM

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btw last one

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looks actually very good

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and its updated 2 days ago

burnt moth Jul 8, 2021, 10:33 AM

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static zealot <https://github.com/MrMicky-FR/FastBoard>

this one ?

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 10:33 AM

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yeah

burnt moth Jul 8, 2021, 10:33 AM

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I see

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okay then

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thanks ^^

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 10:33 AM

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distant sun nope, that returns 2 for 15 / 7

Integer division

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Sinful

distant sun Jul 8, 2021, 10:37 AM

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🙂

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 10:42 AM

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I mean

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That's why it's not working

arctic pebble Jul 8, 2021, 11:05 AM

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@kindred hatch Hey sorry to bother you but is there a way to get the shopguiplus files from your update program to be plug and play or do i have to edit the main config to get them working

kindred hatch Jul 8, 2021, 11:06 AM

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Shops are plug and play, main GUI isn't

arctic pebble Jul 8, 2021, 11:07 AM

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kindred hatch Shops are plug and play, main GUI isn't

Oh also should i delete all the original ones aswell or is there some i should keep

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 1:27 PM

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just another day 🥲

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frail glade Jul 8, 2021, 3:21 PM

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@quiet depot You still up?

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Trying to use CFR on something and I'm passing --extraclasspath lib.jar and I want to specify multiple. Is there a way to pass multiple library jars in the classpath?

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I tried using that parameter twice but it just uses the second one and not hte first.

quiet depot Jul 8, 2021, 3:24 PM

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what u need libs for

frail glade Jul 8, 2021, 3:24 PM

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Because it says "Could not load the following classes" at the top and it talked aobut jetbrains annotation and bungeecord stuff.

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So I wanted to pass in the jars for both of those so it properly runs on them.

hot hull Jul 8, 2021, 3:50 PM

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What's latest gradle version

ocean quartz Jul 8, 2021, 3:54 PM

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7.1.1

hot hull Jul 8, 2021, 3:55 PM

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danke

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 4:41 PM

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yo wtf apparently zsh (?) has tab complete for kill

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that's sick

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 4:41 PM

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o

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kill alex?

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xD

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||yes I know that's the user name smh||

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oh Konsole also has tab complete

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kinda

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 4:43 PM

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that's not a konsole specific thing

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 4:43 PM

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well I didn't say it is

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 4:43 PM

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tab completion is usually up to the shell afaik

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true

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 4:44 PM

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also

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fun fact

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I didn't know konsole has tab completion until like 1 month ago

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and I'm using linux for more than 1 month 🥲

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 4:45 PM

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🥴

distant sun Jul 8, 2021, 4:45 PM

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do I need to create a custom world generator to decrease stuff like lava spawn rate?

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 4:45 PM

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good question gaby. now tell me the answer

ocean quartz Jul 8, 2021, 4:49 PM

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I guess #minecraft

hot hull Jul 8, 2021, 4:52 PM

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Yes Gaby

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or if there's a paper setting

gentle shore Jul 8, 2021, 5:03 PM

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some1 know how to check which gui opened and if the item clicked is in the gui?

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 5:04 PM

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whaT?

steel heart Jul 8, 2021, 5:28 PM

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Holy shit java got quite many bytecode instructions, thought it was like 5 or something

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2021, 5:29 PM

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LMFAO

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Yeah this isn't a barebones brainfuck-like tape reader 😂

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Lol

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 5:32 PM

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lmao

steel heart Jul 8, 2021, 5:33 PM

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Lol

old wyvern Jul 8, 2021, 5:33 PM

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Ah yes, classic sentient worldedit

eternal compass Jul 8, 2021, 6:45 PM

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can anyone tell me if this config looks any good? (as a default config, for a Minions plugin I'm making)
https://paste.helpch.at/ijaxeparux.yml

distant sun Jul 8, 2021, 7:27 PM

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    public static <T extends Tier> List<T> loadTiers(final ConfigurationSection section,
                                                     final Function<ConfigurationSection, T> function
    ) {
        return section.getKeys(false).stream()
                .map(section::getConfigurationSection)
                .filter(Objects::nonNull)
                .map(function)
                .filter(Objects::nonNull)
                .collect(Collectors.toList());
    }```
Stream api is one of the best things ever invented

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 7:28 PM

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im trying

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so

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hard

static zealot Jul 8, 2021, 7:29 PM

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we know

onyx loom Jul 8, 2021, 7:30 PM

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mapNotNull 😌

old wyvern Jul 8, 2021, 7:35 PM

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distant sun ```java public static <T extends Tier> List<T> loadTiers(final Configuration...

So functional good!

distant sun Jul 8, 2021, 7:44 PM

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ofc

old wyvern Jul 8, 2021, 7:52 PM

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😌

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Another haskeller in the making!

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HaskellChat

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 7:59 PM

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ha

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well

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ive gotta do it now

half harness Jul 8, 2021, 8:33 PM

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distant sun ```java public static <T extends Tier> List<T> loadTiers(final Configuration...

fun <T : Tier> loadTiers(
    section: ConfigurationSection,
    function: (ConfigurationSection) -> T
): List<T> = section.getKeys(false)
        .mapNotNull(section::getConfigurationSection)
        .mapNotNull(function)
``` 😌

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 8:35 PM

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Horiffic

half harness Jul 8, 2021, 8:35 PM

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😠

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 8:36 PM

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loadTiers section function = map (function . getConfigurationSection section) $ getKeys section

half harness Jul 8, 2021, 8:36 PM

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wouldn't you need a $

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 8:36 PM

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ummmm

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I'm not sure what you're talking about

half harness Jul 8, 2021, 8:37 PM

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😒

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 8:37 PM

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I've got an $

half harness Jul 8, 2021, 8:37 PM

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(edited)

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dkim better than brister mitten at haskell

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 8:37 PM

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bruh I was on mobile gimme a break

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oh

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That code doesn't work with Maybes

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Hmm

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Ooh

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[Maybe a] -> (a -> Maybe b) -> [Maybe b]

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That sounds familiar

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Kinda

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2021, 8:41 PM

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does 1.17 come with it's own mysql libary so i don't have to include my own?

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 8:43 PM

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prisma wave `[Maybe a] -> (a -> Maybe b) -> [Maybe b]`

nvm that's just map

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loadTiers section function = catMaybes $ map (\e -> getConfigurationSection section e >>= function) $ getKeys section

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hmm

steel heart Jul 8, 2021, 8:46 PM

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hm m -> (m -> hm mh) -> (hm mh)

distant sun Jul 8, 2021, 8:54 PM

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half harness ```kt fun <T : Tier> loadTiers( section: ConfigurationSection, function:...

I know kotlin as well, ty

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 8:54 PM

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steel heart hm m -> (m -> hm mh) -> (hm mh)

😌

steel heart Jul 8, 2021, 8:55 PM

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man its like a new world once you start to understand this monad monoid endofunctor thing

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 8:56 PM

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ofc it is

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emily is also experiencing the magic

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Although with flonure

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Clojure*

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Which isn't quite as exciting imo

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2021, 8:57 PM

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ah yes

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flonure

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2021, 8:57 PM

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prisma wave Which isn't quite as exciting imo

WELL

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i DID write a factorial function in HASKELL

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So, i'm writing a Double Elimination type system for a server i'm working on, and i need help working out how best to do it

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without EVER reading any guides, taking courses and asking questions about haskell

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and i am very proud of that

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 8:59 PM

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obtuse gale i DID write a factorial function in HASKELL

Well it didn't compile

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But yes very good

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 9:00 PM

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obtuse gale So, i'm writing a Double Elimination type system for a server i'm working on, an...

Elaborate

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Also

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We're currently discussing functional programming for the 18th time today

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You may want to ask in #development instead

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2021, 9:01 PM

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functional, as in corexy stuff ;)

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 9:01 PM

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uhh

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2021, 9:01 PM

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prisma wave Well it didn't compile

well just take the []s away and i'm all good 😌

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 9:01 PM

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Functional as in monads

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2021, 9:01 PM

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BM

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what's a monad

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 9:01 PM

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What's a monad you ask? I'm so glad you asked!

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Hah

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Prefired

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2021, 9:01 PM

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lol

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 9:02 PM

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Clojure probably has monads

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Maybe

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2021, 9:02 PM

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but what's a monad

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please

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 9:02 PM

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prisma wave Clojure probably has monads

Okay maybe not

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 9:02 PM

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obtuse gale but what's a monad

Broken record

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Uh

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2021, 9:02 PM

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(:

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 9:03 PM

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Any type with 2 functions, return and bind is a monad

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return :: a -> m a, bind :: m a -> (a -> m b) -> m b

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Say the line bart

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2021, 9:03 PM

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prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 9:04 PM

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☹️

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Anyway since you're now a haskell expert this should be easy

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2021, 9:05 PM

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uh

steel heart Jul 8, 2021, 9:05 PM

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clojure > haskell?

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 9:05 PM

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Not really comparable

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Very personal preference

steel heart Jul 8, 2021, 9:06 PM

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from my view they look quite similar but yeah I guess

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2021, 9:07 PM

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well on clojure i know how to use the repl, i've learned a few of the standard library functions, data structures, records, and a few other things

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on haskell i just know how to make a function and some basic pattern matching

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"pattern matching"

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kinda just like [n] and [n ns] or whatever lol, or 0 when i did the factorial function

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 9:08 PM

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pattern matching 😌

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 9:08 PM

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steel heart from my view they look quite similar but yeah I guess

their similar in that they're the same paradigm, and the syntax is kinda similar but not much else

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as far as i know the conventions and things are very different

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2021, 9:09 PM

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a lot of parenths

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a lot

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of parenths

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 9:09 PM

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🥲

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just like alonzo church wanted

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2021, 9:09 PM

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lol

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i have to read the style guide thing johnny sent

lunar cypress Jul 8, 2021, 9:14 PM

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clojure is similar in that it's functional, but within the functional world clojure and haskell are extremely far apart

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Clojure was built with completely different goals in mind than haskell

old wyvern Jul 8, 2021, 9:16 PM

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prisma wave just like alonzo church wanted

😌

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Church Turing Thesis bad. Lambda calc >>>>>>>>

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distant sun Jul 8, 2021, 9:20 PM

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lunar cypress Clojure was built with completely different goals in mind than haskell

To be burned :)

lunar cypress Jul 8, 2021, 9:21 PM

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Get the C syntax in your name right before you talk to me

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 9:22 PM

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🥶

old wyvern Jul 8, 2021, 9:22 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/on-fire-walking-gif-5114625

Tenor

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 10:08 PM

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You know

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I'm not convinced a lot of these javascript twitter accounts are real

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https://twitter.com/AlexandriasTech/status/1412505792889110539?s=19

Alexandria 💚 (@AlexandriasTech)

What is HTML? Why is it important?

Let's look more into it ⬇️ 🧶

Likes

303

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Maybe I'm just a loser who never leaves the house but this just doesn't seem like how an american woman would speak

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https://twitter.com/EmilyKager/status/1411020698894569476?s=19

Emily Kager (@EmilyKager)

This account has ~60k followers as a JavaScript/Twitter growth influencer and IMO it's clearly a catfish account pretending to be an American woman in tech... https://t.co/J7ReFUsWoD

Retweets

189

Likes

1048

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Original tweet was deleted but this is similar to what im saying

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Idk

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There's just something about all the trendy javascript twitter accounts that doesn't seem real

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2021, 10:15 PM

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that is NOT me

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or maybe it is

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unlikely

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or not

lunar cypress Jul 8, 2021, 10:18 PM

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account gone

prisma wave Jul 8, 2021, 10:24 PM

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yeah ik

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there are others though

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All of the popular javascript webdev accounts

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They just seem a bit unnatural

lunar cypress Jul 8, 2021, 10:28 PM

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idk any

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Aside from the people who (used to?) make the ladybug podcast

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they seemed real to me

steel heart Jul 8, 2021, 10:42 PM

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obtuse gale unlikely

BES_Sus

old wyvern Jul 8, 2021, 10:47 PM

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wut xD

old wyvern Jul 8, 2021, 11:02 PM

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ummmm, why is something from the ads package reading from the whatsapp messages database inclusive of the message...

errant geyser Jul 8, 2021, 11:28 PM

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Because fuck you and your privacy... unless the messages are encrypted and it just hasn't been removed yet

old wyvern Jul 8, 2021, 11:30 PM

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The messages in the database are raw

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2021, 11:31 PM

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love the name

old wyvern Jul 8, 2021, 11:31 PM

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obtuse gale Jul 8, 2021, 11:31 PM

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sQLite

old wyvern Jul 8, 2021, 11:33 PM

#

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I mean I cant tell for sure if this part exists in the actual whatsapp apk

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Im going through a modified version

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Override? Nah! All my homies instance of their way through it!

obtuse gale Jul 8, 2021, 11:39 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/what-omg-cantbelieveit-cantbelieve-unbelievable-gif-4832642

Tenor

half harness Jul 8, 2021, 11:39 PM

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🥲

terse tundra Jul 9, 2021, 12:01 AM

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lightmode

timber oak Jul 9, 2021, 12:01 AM

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Quick weird question; is AI possible in Java?

terse tundra Jul 9, 2021, 12:01 AM

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yes should be

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ever heard of the minecraft mod baritone

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its made and java and uses a ai

timber oak Jul 9, 2021, 12:04 AM

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Does baritone use AI?

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What the

old wyvern Jul 9, 2021, 12:08 AM

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ai is a concept

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its language agnostic

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What exactly do you want?

timber oak Jul 9, 2021, 12:08 AM

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Just wondering, I just think the concept AI is interesting, might wanna try it out so wanted to know if it's possible to make decent AI in java

old wyvern Jul 9, 2021, 12:10 AM

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as I said, it has nothing to do with the language itself. You can implement the different models in any language

timber oak Jul 9, 2021, 12:10 AM

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Yeah, makes sense

old wyvern Jul 9, 2021, 12:11 AM

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python has the most available libraries for ml tho afaik

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for java you can check out d4j

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https://deeplearning4j.org/

timber oak Jul 9, 2021, 12:11 AM

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Yeah heard that Python's libraries are great for ML

timber oak Jul 9, 2021, 12:11 AM

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old wyvern https://deeplearning4j.org/

Ty

old wyvern Jul 9, 2021, 12:12 AM

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Just saying, but you probably want to go through some theory before jumping straight into a library

timber oak Jul 9, 2021, 12:12 AM

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Yeah, do you by any chance know some kinda of introduction to AI? I'm guessing there's a ton on YT

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But it's not always easy to find a good one

old wyvern Jul 9, 2021, 12:14 AM

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3Blue1Brown has some explanation videos about it, but other than that I cant refer you much. I havent tried much in that domain

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aircAruvnKk

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There you go

timber oak Jul 9, 2021, 12:14 AM

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old wyvern 3Blue1Brown has some explanation videos about it, but other than that I cant ref...

Alright, I appreciate it

cinder flare Jul 9, 2021, 12:20 AM

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old wyvern 3Blue1Brown has some explanation videos about it, but other than that I cant ref...

that guy is so cool I swear

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he made me kinda like and understand calculus

old wyvern Jul 9, 2021, 12:21 AM

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ikr he explains things very well

obtuse gale Jul 9, 2021, 12:22 AM

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He explains everything so well

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And the visual approach is great

young pawn Jul 9, 2021, 4:16 AM

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hi, where can i ask something about the deluxemenu plugin?

obtuse gale Jul 9, 2021, 4:22 AM

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#general-plugins / #general-plugins-2

young pawn Jul 9, 2021, 4:23 AM

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Okay

vagrant bobcat Jul 9, 2021, 6:46 AM

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If I wanted do different classes for same command but with sub commands what would I do?

prisma siren Jul 9, 2021, 7:36 AM

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DM how to use CustomModelData, I followed the wiki to write the error

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material: 'STONE'
nbt_int: CustomModelData:13
slot: 17

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 7:38 AM

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#general-plugins

obtuse gale Jul 9, 2021, 7:59 AM

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If I may how often is the recent purchases database updated?

distant sun Jul 9, 2021, 7:59 AM

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@pallid gale

pallid gale Jul 9, 2021, 8:00 AM

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Which plugin?

obtuse gale Jul 9, 2021, 8:00 AM

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Deluxechat

obtuse gale Jul 9, 2021, 8:09 AM

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pallid gale Which plugin?

Would I be able to send proof of purchase to you in order to get access to download the latest jar?
or shall I wait for the database to update with all recent purchases

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 8:32 AM

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terse tundra ever heard of the minecraft mod baritone

ever heard of Minecraft? 🙂

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entities have AI too

quiet sierra Jul 9, 2021, 8:34 AM

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jovial warren entities have AI too

It's a bit different

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 8:34 AM

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no it's not

quiet sierra Jul 9, 2021, 8:34 AM

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Technically any algorithm is AI

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 8:34 AM

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AI mainly refers to the ability for machines to make decisions by themselves

quiet sierra Jul 9, 2021, 8:34 AM

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I can put an RNG-based algorithm on tic-tac-toe and call it AI

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User likely wants machine learning tbh

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 8:35 AM

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yeah

pallid gale Jul 9, 2021, 9:05 AM

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obtuse gale Would I be able to send proof of purchase to you in order to get access to downl...

I updated the db run =spigot check

obtuse gale Jul 9, 2021, 9:06 AM

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pallid gale I updated the db run =spigot check

I did earlier 🙂
Thank you though!

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 10:15 AM

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just out of curiosity, would anyone happen to know how persistent collections compare to something like a CopyOnWriteArrayList in terms of write performance?

steel heart Jul 9, 2021, 10:22 AM

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Are we talking writing when iterating over it or just generally?

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Cuz that’s kinda not supported iirc or at least removing

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 10:24 AM

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I'm talking about writing to it

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iterating over is reading, and I assume the read performance is about the same

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CopyOnWriteArrayList, as the name suggests, copies the backing array every time you perform a write operation

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on the other hand, persistent collections do some magic to maintain immutability whilst not copying the collection

distant sun Jul 9, 2021, 10:26 AM

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any idea if it's possible to change how often lava is generated on overworld? 🤔 possible without a custom world generation plugin

steel heart Jul 9, 2021, 10:26 AM

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Myeah, I would assume best case scenario for it to write is where it simply just uses a Lock to ensure thread safety

lunar cypress Jul 9, 2021, 10:42 AM

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jovial warren just out of curiosity, would anyone happen to know how persistent collections co...

definitely worse

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I mean the copy on write collections

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Although it depends in which context

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because the purpose of such collections is to provide atomicity

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which persistent collections don't have if you just reassign a variable

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You don't need this in single threaded contexts of course, but in multi threaded contexts you'll have to wrap the persistent collection in an atomic reference or something for comparison

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 11:04 AM

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Persistent is definitely better yeah

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Copy on write copies everything, persistent only copies whatever it has to

lunar cypress Jul 9, 2021, 11:12 AM

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But as I said, CopyOnWrite has a different focus/a property that persistent collections don't have inherently

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But I don't really know how you'd benchmark this

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Because I bet this varies depending on how many threads you have that access it at the same time

static zealot Jul 9, 2021, 12:35 PM

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😌

ocean quartz Jul 9, 2021, 12:51 PM

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t

static zealot Jul 9, 2021, 12:52 PM

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yeah changed it to tag

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shh

distant sun Jul 9, 2021, 12:56 PM

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How come matt doesnt say anything about streams

ocean quartz Jul 9, 2021, 12:56 PM

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I mean streams aren't bad

old wyvern Jul 9, 2021, 1:01 PM

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O(n) lookup 😌

quiet sierra Jul 9, 2021, 1:02 PM

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I personally hate streams

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I mean they're really good for readability

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But do you really need to sacrifice performance

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at the same time my code doesn't look the most readable of all

old wyvern Jul 9, 2021, 1:03 PM

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quiet sierra But do you really need to sacrifice performance

"sacrifice performance"

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Time to head back to the stone age and write assembly

quiet sierra Jul 9, 2021, 1:03 PM

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Plugin dev in cobol

old wyvern Jul 9, 2021, 1:04 PM

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The performance difference is ussually negligible

quiet sierra Jul 9, 2021, 1:04 PM

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I'm the guy making all entities client-side to not tick servers

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tell me more about negligible performance

old wyvern Jul 9, 2021, 1:05 PM

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quiet sierra I'm the guy making all entities client-side to not tick servers

🤡

quiet sierra Jul 9, 2021, 1:05 PM

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I optimized the hell out of a proprietary file extension to save 150kb on disk

old wyvern Jul 9, 2021, 1:06 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/stop-get-some-help-gif-8670192

Tenor

quiet sierra Jul 9, 2021, 1:06 PM

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It was worth it

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Lovely that only people that can help me with project related stuff are mojang staff nowadays

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On an irc

static zealot Jul 9, 2021, 1:07 PM

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o

hollow walrus Jul 9, 2021, 1:21 PM

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why are people dm ing me for help

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and texture pack and other shi

quiet sierra Jul 9, 2021, 1:21 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hollow walrus Jul 9, 2021, 1:21 PM

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i dont wanna be rude so i help them

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and why me?

static zealot Jul 9, 2021, 1:23 PM

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yeah we're asking ourselves the same question

hollow walrus Jul 9, 2021, 1:26 PM

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no no no

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you are trusted

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and i can understand helpers

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but like im lvl 3

static zealot Jul 9, 2021, 1:27 PM

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👍

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probably bcz u helped once

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 1:29 PM

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currently trying to design a decent item metadata API, and was thinking about using a key-based system, where you can get/set metadata values

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:30 PM

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static zealot 😌

bruh

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hashmap please

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 1:31 PM

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e.g. ```kotlin
val stack = ItemStack.of(ItemTypes.SOME_ITEM, 64) // It's an interface so I can store the NBT on the backend
stack.meta[MetaKeys.NAME] = Component.text("Hello World!")

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:31 PM

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KEYS AGAIN

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Stop it

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just use a string bruh

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 1:32 PM

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but then I can't have get return some type

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MetaKey has a generic type, which enables me to have a get that takes a MetaKey<V> and returns V?

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also, keys good

potent nest Jul 9, 2021, 1:33 PM

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heterogeneous containers 😌

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:33 PM

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potent nest heterogeneous containers 😌

😌 😌 😌

static zealot Jul 9, 2021, 1:33 PM

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prisma wave hashmap please

its stored in a map but its stored with the priority as a key

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:33 PM

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why

static zealot Jul 9, 2021, 1:33 PM

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bcz that's how it is

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:34 PM

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TreeMap

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Keeps it sorted and O(log n) lookup

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 1:34 PM

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yeah use a TreeMap and order by priority with the comparator

static zealot Jul 9, 2021, 1:34 PM

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maybe another day

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xD

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spent enough working on it for today

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:35 PM

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Wait

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That doesn't necessarily make sense

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Nvm

static zealot Jul 9, 2021, 1:35 PM

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huh?

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:35 PM

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using treemap

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if you need to lookup by priority often

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 1:36 PM

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oh btw, just another API question: should I actually expose the backing NBT data raw in the API?

static zealot Jul 9, 2021, 1:36 PM

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idk how often it looks for priorities. but I don't think its that often

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 1:36 PM

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I'm not sure, since on the one hand, that's probably the most wanted feature in the entirety of Bukkit, but on the other, it exposes something that could be considered implementation detail

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:37 PM

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Elaborate

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What is meant by "raw" nbt

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 1:37 PM

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I mean like allowing you to retrieve the NBTCompound that actually stores the data for ItemStacks

static zealot Jul 9, 2021, 1:37 PM

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also btw this is the last thing you should complain about lmao xD. well you didn't see the project so I guess you can't really know that

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:38 PM

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jovial warren I mean like allowing you to retrieve the `NBTCompound` that actually stores the ...

when would that be useful

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:38 PM

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static zealot also btw this is the last thing you should complain about lmao xD. well you didn...

I will complain about everything

static zealot Jul 9, 2021, 1:38 PM

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that I know

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but hey. its not mine

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 1:38 PM

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prisma wave when would that be useful

no idea

static zealot Jul 9, 2021, 1:39 PM

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.

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lag

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 1:39 PM

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maybe for getting the data directly instead of using the key system?

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:39 PM

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jovial warren no idea

That answers that question then

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 1:39 PM

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but I have no clue why anyone would want to do that tbh

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:39 PM

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if you can't think of an actually useful use case it's probably not worth adding

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 1:39 PM

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howdy folks

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 1:39 PM

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hello pig

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:39 PM

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good day

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 1:40 PM

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string bad

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key good

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user input in api bad

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hard coded option good

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:41 PM

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sponge's Key system is weird

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seems like they forgot methods and polymorphism are a thing

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 1:41 PM

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elaborate with examples pls

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:41 PM

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idk

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player.get(Keys.Name) or whatever it is

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 1:42 PM

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sponge's key system is like half way there

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:42 PM

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just have player.getName smh

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 1:42 PM

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they do have getters for a lot of things

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probably use more getters than keys

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which is why i said it's half way there

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d;sponge keys

ruby craterBOT Jul 9, 2021, 1:42 PM

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org.spongepowered.api.data.Keys

public final class Keys
extends Object```
Keys has 401 fields, and  1 extensions.

Description:

An enumeration of known Keys used throughout the API.

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:42 PM

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why use them in the first place tho

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What's the benefit

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 1:43 PM

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frankly

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it's just cleaner imo

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for comparison

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imo papi 3 is "all the way there" with keys

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there aren't really any getters on things like player & server

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:44 PM

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quiet depot it's just cleaner imo

How

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I could do player.get(Keys.BIOME_TEMPERATURE) and the compiler doesn't even warn me

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player.getBiomeTemperature() wouldn't compile obviously

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 1:45 PM

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well yes obviously that's not ideal

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papi 3 tries to get around that by providing type specific key classes (e.g. PlayerKeys)

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along with a general Keys class

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when I say cleaner

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here's an example from papi 3 for implementing a couple keys

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that'd be a lot fatter with methods

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now that I'm going over it I don't have any real arguments to say keys are better

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I just like them

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 1:48 PM

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I mean, I don't like keys for everything, but I think keys are useful for when you need to store and retrieve arbitrary data that may not exist

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for example, with item metadata, certain item types have certain metadata that other item types don't

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:49 PM

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😖 😖

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it's the epitome of evil

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Doesn't belong in statically typed languages

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 1:49 PM

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prisma wave I could do player.get(Keys.BIOME_TEMPERATURE) and the compiler doesn't even warn...

this could easily be resolved btw

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 1:49 PM

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like potion items have information about what the effects are, how long until it expires, etc.

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but a stone item isn't gonna have that

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and I don't wanna do another Bukkit if I can help it

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:50 PM

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jovial warren but a stone item isn't gonna have that

And with a key based system, the compiler has no way of checking that

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 1:50 PM

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that's not true

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adding a type parameter to the key type which ensures it can only be used on specific types would solve the issue

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:51 PM

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true

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 1:51 PM

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I mean, the key-based system is gonna be a little hacky for item meta, since I need a way to figure out how I should serialize/deserialize specific keys to/from the NBT data

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 1:51 PM

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e.g. Key.NAME should only be usable on things with a name, so we have an interface Nameable, and restrict that key to only things implementing Nameable, and we ensure that via the Nameable type parameter on Key.NAME

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 1:51 PM

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but I don't see a better solution

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if anyone actually knows a better solution than a key-based system for item metadata, be my guest

steel heart Jul 9, 2021, 1:52 PM

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Feels like a good way to avoid excessively long hierarchies of interfaces

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:52 PM

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quiet depot e.g. Key.NAME should only be usable on things with a name, so we have an interfa...

But at that point you might as well have Nameable define a method getName()

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 1:53 PM

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steel heart Feels like a good way to avoid excessively long hierarchies of interfaces

yeah well my solution to the compiler problem sort of brings that issue back

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which is why I personally don't go that route

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and just expect people not to be idiots

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 1:53 PM

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also, with a Bukkit-based metadata system, you actually have to make assumptions, casting metadata to various types depending on what the item is, which means you still lose compile-time type checking

steel heart Jul 9, 2021, 1:53 PM

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Myeah

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 1:53 PM

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and not try to call PLAYER_STATISTICS_TIME_PLAYED on a fucking grass block

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:53 PM

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we possibly have different philosophies here

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i am of the mind that in a statically typed language the compiler should be checking absolutely everything possible

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 1:53 PM

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well there's also the train of thought that there's nothing wrong about calling PLAYER_STATISTICS_TIME_PLAYED on a grass block

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it may not make logical sense to you, but to the api, it's simply a key that hasn't been implemented for that type

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and therefore returns an empty optional

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or null

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depending on your taste

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 1:54 PM

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prisma wave i am of the mind that in a statically typed language the compiler should be chec...

generics: https://tenor.com/view/supa-hot-fire-end-this-mans-whole-career-diss-rap-battle-gif-15687941

Tenor

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:54 PM

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That's a java problem

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And generics can still be safe

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 1:55 PM

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hold on bm

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I think I can relate this to oops message passing

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aren't objects meant to accept requests of any type, and deal with it?

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:56 PM

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in theory

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 1:56 PM

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and a key system allows for that

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:56 PM

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but that's pretty much describing polymorphism

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And modern day OOP isn't really the original concept anyway

static zealot Jul 9, 2021, 1:57 PM

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=multi

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 1:57 PM

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that's not personally what I thought polymorphism was

compact perchBOT Jul 9, 2021, 1:57 PM

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Your XP Multiplier:

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 1:58 PM

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Objects communicate by sending and receiving messages (in terms of objects)

There's no specific implementation described here

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It's conceptual

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actually I may be wrong there, the wikipedia page for message passing distinguishes it from invoking a function by its name

foggy pond Jul 9, 2021, 2:00 PM

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For 1.13+ do you guys prefer Fabric or Forge
Since the general consensus seems to be that Fabric has the better API but forge has more mods

static zealot Jul 9, 2021, 2:00 PM

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yo @prisma wave funny thing btw. it is a tree map. I Just opened the project to check xD

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 2:00 PM

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foggy pond For 1.13+ do you guys prefer Fabric or Forge Since the general consensus seems t...

as a user, forge 100%

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for the exact reason you just said

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I don't give a fuck whether I'm playing on fabric or forge

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doesn't make a difference to me, the end user

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I just want mods

static zealot Jul 9, 2021, 2:01 PM

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foggy pond Jul 9, 2021, 2:01 PM

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Fair enough 😂

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 2:01 PM

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static zealot yo <@!266973575225933824> funny thing btw. it is a tree map. I Just opened the ...

🥲

static zealot Jul 9, 2021, 2:01 PM

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prisma wave 🥲

its deluxetags... its not my project. I don't know every single thing about it smh

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 2:02 PM

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Different sources seem to give different information on what message passing means

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Nowadays it seems to just mean things like the Actor and Strategy patterns

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 2:04 PM

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well I can't remember my source

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but I remember reading it as "send message, thing accepts message, thing handles message"

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 2:04 PM

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which seems like a method

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 2:04 PM

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methods are the way it's implemented in java

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that's not to say it's the best way

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 2:05 PM

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But i don't think there's much to be gained by comparing modern languages to the original OO concepts, since they're so different

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sure

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 2:05 PM

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no one ever said java's oop implementation is perfect

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 2:06 PM

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prisma wave But i don't think there's much to be gained by comparing modern languages to the...

I'm not sure I was comparing the language, moreso the key design

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which isn't necessarily restricted to java

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on another note

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this man made a mistake https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/i-made-a-mistake.515074/

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

I made a mistake

I paid for Mcmmo Classic, not Mcmmo Overhaul... is there any way I can get my money back?

am I able to chargeback or will spigot go reee?

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 2:07 PM

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wow, Sponge's data persistence system is more complicated than I thought lol

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 2:08 PM

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wow, Sponge's insert pretty much any sponge api is more complicated than I thought lol

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 2:08 PM

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They made a mistake

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 2:08 PM

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quiet depot wow, Sponge's *insert pretty much any sponge api* is more complicated than I tho...

one of the main reasons I don't really like Sponge tbh

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 2:08 PM

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well while their api isn't perfect

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it's a hell of a lot better than spigot

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so i like sponge

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 2:08 PM

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quiet depot I'm not sure I was comparing the language, moreso the key design

Well for what it's worth, Smalltalk was dynamically typed

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 2:09 PM

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eh, it's better in some places, but not as good in others imo

prisma wave Jul 9, 2021, 2:09 PM

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which makes sense in the sense of message passing relating to dynamic dispatch and stuff

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 2:09 PM

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indeed

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 2:09 PM

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jovial warren eh, it's better in some places, but not as good in others imo

"not as good in others" such as?

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 2:10 PM

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the data API is a bit over-complicated, I don't think entity metadata system needs to use it

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 2:10 PM

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dunno if I've used either of those apis

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 2:10 PM

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like getting given Values for everything

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 2:11 PM

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oh those I definitely have encountered

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yeah not a fan of those

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 2:11 PM

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also, the item API seems to use a data query system, where you can perform a query to retrieve specific data

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 2:11 PM

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I have used the item api and I'm not sure what you're talking about

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mind you my usage was probably a bit different to yours

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 2:12 PM

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where do you even get and set keys? isn't it with a DataView?

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oh, no, it uses the stuff from the ValueContainer that took 5 layers of interitance to find

quiet depot Jul 9, 2021, 2:13 PM

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https://github.com/PlaceholderAPI/PlaceholderAPI3/blob/master/bindings/sponge/src/main/java/at/helpch/placeholderapi/sponge/item/SpongeItemFunctionProvider.java

jovial warren Jul 9, 2021, 2:14 PM

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yeah

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it uses the key-based system

sly sonnet Jul 9, 2021, 2:47 PM

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which engine should i use for papi javascript placeholders?
nashorn is not supported anymore
on jvm 15 and above at least

static zealot Jul 9, 2021, 2:48 PM

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u need to get the expansion from #852317810394267708

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it has nashorn and quickjs shaded in

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and uses nashorn by default

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but u can enable quickjs from config

distant sun Jul 9, 2021, 2:56 PM

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Cause: class org.gradle.internal.compiler.java.ClassNameCollector (in unnamed module @0x6a2f2f5) cannot access class com.sun.tools.javac.code.Symbol$TypeSymbol (in module jdk.compiler) because module jdk.compiler does not export com.sun.tools.javac.code to unnamed module @0x6a2f2f5
yes

hot hull Jul 9, 2021, 3:13 PM

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@digital shuttle multiply your budget 4 - 6 times

distant sun Jul 9, 2021, 4:31 PM

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any idea what could cause this? https://i.imgur.com/QpsKKAY.png 🤔

Imgur

hot hull Jul 9, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Have you turned on your internet by any chance?

fervent tinsel Jul 9, 2021, 4:34 PM

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who look into n.m.s code deep and worked with changing items handling (Such as changing block preferred tools, item "special" blocks)?

hot hull Jul 9, 2021, 4:37 PM

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You don't need nms for that

bold yarrow Jul 9, 2021, 4:40 PM

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is there a direct download link for the placeholder api plugin?

fervent tinsel Jul 9, 2021, 4:42 PM

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hot hull You don't need nms for that

i'm talking about change speed of mining some blocks for some tools

hot hull Jul 9, 2021, 4:42 PM

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Oh, so changing block dura

fervent tinsel Jul 9, 2021, 4:43 PM

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pretty ye

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i got tested by modifying block strength and durability, but it gives for me only instant break on low values

hot hull Jul 9, 2021, 4:43 PM

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There's like 90% chance there's a tutorial on it