What the fuck lmao
#dev-general
frail glade
They are literally right here pls.
obtuse gale
Watch Glare jump down the insanity pit ๐ฅฒ
frail glade
My only guess right now is that the chunk isn't loaded?
obtuse gale
But you're loading the chunk aren't you?
obtuse gale
Hm
ocean quartz
Inb4 "Imma just rewrite the entire plugin" ๐ฅฒ
frail glade
I really don't want to have to but I'd say I've done 10% so far adding in this new reflection shit.
obtuse gale
Try loading it manually lmao
Chunk chunk = ...
chunk.load()
``` or whateverThat's sad lol
frail glade
Nah that didn't fix it. It has to be a timing thing because if I login and I run /bb reload it works.
obtuse gale
Ugh just changed my phone number because the old line got deactivated for whatever reason
Having to change it on every.single.website uuugh it sucks
prisma wave
Popular premium plugin be well written challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Except glare plugins ofc
ocean quartz
Sx ๐ข
prisma wave
I wonder what he's up to
Probably working for google, telling them all about how good kotlin is
ocean quartz
He'd be so happy with Kotlin possibly adding companion fun syntax
prisma wave
he's probably botting the survey as we speak ๐ ๐ฅฐ
frail glade
Been away on Overwatch for 22 days.
ocean quartz
Damn, that's a long time that's a surprise
frail glade
Wowza. I have over 33,000 artifacts in my Nexus repo. I'm working on downloading a HR copy to try out reposlite.
ocean quartz
Reposilite is pretty nice, though i love how jfrog artifactory looks
quiet depot
Wowza. I have over 33,000 artifacts in my Nexus repo. I'm working on downloading...
thought there was no need to switch
half harness
@prisma wave add this to the album please https://i.imgur.com/NuSCqm1.png
quiet depot
I got to 34K and it froze
did it freeze or stop?
iirc it doesnโt tell you when it stops
I think I had to control c because it was โstuckโ on one, but in reality it finished
oh I think I had to edit the code a bit too to download all xml files
iirc it was only downloading jars
ocean quartz
It relocates so many things, doesn't expose useful ones, it's a mess
frail glade
@quiet depot Do I really have to separate my snapshots and releases?
quiet depot
<@!181675431362035712> Do I really have to separate my snapshots and releases?
do you not have them separate in nexus?
theyโre separate by default in nexus
if you manually changed that in nexus
u can manually change it in reposilite too
just create a new repository in reposilite and upload both to there
frail glade
I didn't really use my release / snapshot
quiet depot
u can just make a repo called public or something and upload both
quiet depot
but again
u might have to modify that downlaoder code a bit
because iirc it missed out on some xml files
like maven metadat
quiet depot
wait no
I think that mightโve been the first convertor i tried
can u link me the convertor on gh?
frail glade
quiet depot
is that the one I linked in the issue?
frail glade
Ya
frail glade
Ya
quiet depot
u should be fine then
just copy everything it generated into ur reposilite public repo folder
frail glade
Ty
ocean quartz
There's a flight coming in from Nice
hot hull
Why are you in an airport
sly sonnet
He's fed up with current locacion. Probably in search of a better place ๐
ocean quartz
Why are you in an airport
Waiting for the lady
obtuse gale
There's a flight coming in from Nice
lmao nice
guys
i just got a warning from the discord debug server from sayin "dick"
imma get a permanent ban if i get another warning
that's cool
cinder flare
say it again
obtuse gale
why would i talk to myself
i mean
snopp dogg like dough
soo
๐
Elon Musk like mu-
stard
mutant dick hamsters?
oo
..
oh
ok
imagie tho
a 10 inch dick on hamster
ahaha
and a 20 inch dick on dwarf ๐ณ
ocean quartz
harsh forum
btw how do i mute the 'which is not a depend, softdepend or loadbefore of this plugin.' warning on paperclip?
obtuse gale
btw how do i mute the 'which is not a depend, softdepend or loadbefore of this p...
๐ + ๐ = ๐๏ธ
obtuse gale
btw how do i mute the 'which is not a depend, softdepend or loadbefore of this p...
export const false = {true = false};
๐ฅ
hot hull
Waiting for the lady
Oh damn
sly sonnet
what would happen, if java:
boolean true = false
m?
ocean quartz
Error, you can't name a variable a keyword
potent nest
The endboss for regex based syntax highlighting
obtuse gale
funnily enough, the JEP about contextual keywords/restricted identifiers talks about how much of a PITA it is for IDE devs lol
somewhere in here :^) https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/8223002
potent nest
yeah, for IDEs it's hard for incomplete input, but syntax highlighting in e.g. markdown will just not work correctly at all in half of the cases
distant sun
There's a flight coming in from Nice
Nice
prisma wave
<@!266973575225933824> add this to the album please https://i.imgur.com/NuSCqm1....
That is something special
Surely there's a better way of doing this
distant sun
Lol that image url actually exists
chilly mortar
distant sun
@chilly mortar wrong chat
old wyvern
๐
steel heart
Method reference >>>
old wyvern
Only one issue atm ๐ฅฒ
If I provide a token for a user that doesnt exist or an invalid token, Ill get a 500 instead of a 403
im gonna have to use a lambda instead to catch ๐
steel heart
Too bad we canโt pass throwing functional interfaces
quiet depot
why can't you?
steel heart
Well streams donโt support
quiet depot
nothing stopping you from adding support
old wyvern
It needs to accept a functional interface that has a throws shown
old wyvern
nothing stopping you from adding support
You cant add suppourt to in stream/optionals afaik
steel heart
Yeah of course could make some sort of stream helper
old wyvern
The accepted type just needs to be the type that catches
interface CatchingRunnable {
void run() throws Exception;
default void silentlyRun() {
try {
run();
} catch (final Exception ex) {
}
}
}
And extend Runnable 
Nvm
Oh u did it that way
You could have the run method defaulted
old wyvern
You could have the run method defaulted
wdym?
The lambda needs to be for a method that throws or it will force you explicitly handle the exception inside the lambda
steel heart
@FunctionalInterface interface ThrowingRunnable extends Runnable {
@Override default void run() {
try {
this.runExceptionally();
} catch (Exception e) {
e.printStackTrace();
}
}
void runExceptionally() throws Exception;
}```Or no?
old wyvern
Yea that would work, I thought you wanted to use the default run from Runnable
steel heart
Ah fair
old wyvern
That annotation style is quite cursed
old wyvern
๐ฅถ
old wyvern
But yeah wat ya working on
summer internship project
data processing application for RRCAT
steel heart
Oo did u have an interview?
old wyvern
Yes, but it was with the 3 of us in the team, not individual
steel heart
Ah, data structures and algorithms?๐ฅฒ
old wyvern
Nope, not for this one. They just asked for our resume and then it was just mostly them explaining the project to us and explaining the documentation
steel heart
Oo nice ๐
old wyvern
Had an interview for the NCSSS one
That one had some questions, but this one, not much
steel heart
Oo nice, had one interview and I failed totally hehe
old wyvern
rip, which company?
steel heart
It was a minecraft server, well I did apply when I was a beginner and kinda lied in my application heheheheh
old wyvern
oh lol
old wyvern
LMAO they actually have that april fools httpstatus on there
prisma wave
```java
interface CatchingRunnable {
void run() throws Exception;
default...
Could re-throw it as a RuntimeException
old wyvern
mhm
prisma wave
Seems like this is just java bad
old wyvern
๐
prisma wave
๐คช
old wyvern
Haskellers... Good
errant geyser
haskell bad
prisma wave
Source?
errant geyser
my nan
prisma wave
She is wrong
errant geyser
She is wrong
or is she
prisma wave
Yes she is
prisma wave
Do you happen to know how to use Ktor
A bit
frail glade
So a little update on BB. It's apparently not using Netty properly and that might be why it's not fully loading everything.
steel heart
๐ฅฒ
jovial warren
LMAO they actually have that april fools httpstatus on there
it's still a valid HTTP response code
potent nest
well, only if it's coming from a teapot
quiet depot
wow this is cool
I was just setting up 2fa for sendgrid on my pc
it automatically added the app to authy
didn't have to scan anything
or input a code
obtuse gale
Spooky
quiet depot
simply having authy installed on my pc was good enough
and it synced to phone too basically instantly
also linux!
old wyvern
ElaraOS >>>
cinder flare
mmmm 2fa
distant sun
@quiet depot do you know how to use regex find and replace on sublime?
ocean quartz
Where's Matt when you need him smh
Tired af
distant sun
https://regex101.com/r/U9p5pg/1 this doesn't match at all
distant sun
oh god
distant sun
I see now, I tried that on yml and oh well, there's spacing and ' '
quiet depot
i just ditched my 1.5 years vps uptime
distant sun
:))
quiet depot
rip
distant sun
you dont know what uptime is when using oneprovider tbh
https://i.imgur.com/uzqFq7R.png tf is this pixeled shit
errant geyser
Tired af
Fair enough. Whenever you feel up to it do you mind being harassed about Ktor
old wyvern
WTF!!!
cinder flare
Spring be lying to you?
old wyvern
Absolutely no idea
cinder flare
maybe Spring just passed in null lmao
old wyvern
guice wouldn't have this problem
dagger wouldn't have this problem
quiet depot
dagger is bad
old wyvern
maybe Spring just passed in null lmao
I just saw the instance in the constructor tho
cinder flare
oh huh
old wyvern
dagger is bad
guice bad, dagger good???
prisma wave
you already know what i'm gonna say
cinder flare
ya I know
onyx loom
say the line bart
old wyvern
you already know what i'm gonna say
Haskell good, Java bad ๐
prisma wave
say the line bart
dont mock me
onyx loom
i would never
quiet depot
can u show me the class declaration
old wyvern
of the details service?
quiet depot
yes
old wyvern
one sec
onyx loom
hey if u guys wanna see intellij drunk, then try guess where the issue comes from ๐
prisma wave
lombok
old wyvern
tried rebuilding?
lemme try
quiet depot
ensure this class is getting loaded at the right time
i.e. loaded and initialized before it's used
old wyvern
Alrighty, one sec
quiet depot
my bet is one of those annotations (service/transactional) is tickling the fields
old wyvern
hmm, possibly, lemme try replacing it with Component
quiet depot
or ur using it before the constructor is called
old wyvern
How do I use it before the constructor is called
old wyvern
xD
quiet depot
a more general answer though; unsafe
old wyvern
It seemed like its calling the constructor normally tho
quiet depot
well it is
but there's no guarantee that the instance you're using is the one where the constructor was called
old wyvern
And seems Component doesnt change it either
old wyvern
but there's no guarantee that the instance you're using is the one where the con...
yea true
quiet depot
what you using spring for anyway?
old wyvern
backend for an app
ohh wait
I think
Wait no
Something is def wrong elsewhere ๐
Ok wow...
Found the issue
Apparently it needed a toString function for some reason
Adding this fixed it
old wyvern
๐
Is it fine if the server token secret is regenerated on every startup or should it be a constant?
prisma wave
server token?
old wyvern
the secret key used to generate the jwt
rn im just letting the api generate it
Which means a token is not valid after restart
prisma wave
Probably not that big a deal
it just means people will have to reauthenticate if you restart
ocean quartz
Fair enough. Whenever you feel up to it do you mind being harassed about Ktor
Shoot the questions I'll reply when i can
errant geyser
Perfect
So, @ocean quartz I'm trying to serve a HTTP API on api.osable.tech, and serve a website on osable.tech. For that, I'm using https://bin.osable.tech/agoqukavoj.kotlin . I hate the hacky way I've gotten around serving the website, since it means I can't have images, and the way I've done CSS and JS is complete trash. It seems as if static blocks inside host blocks just don't work. If I swap to using
host("osable.tech") {
static("/") {
resource("files/index.html")
}
static("privacy") {
resource("files/privacy.html")
}
static("tool") {
resource("files/tool.html")
}
}``` I just get 404s on every single page. Do you know why this is/what I'm doing wrong?
Ping me if you get a chance to replyWhy would anyone want to make an API for PAPI?
prisma wave
what
sly sonnet
prisma wave
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
cinder flare
Presumably to allow websites to parse PAPI placeholders
ocean quartz
Why would anyone want to make an API for PAPI?
A Placeholder API API
cinder flare
PAPIAPI
sly sonnet
some bigbrain shit I do not understand yet...
cinder flare
Probably so like Dynmap can use custom placeholders
Or their own forum or something
I can see the use
hallow crane
Does anyone know how to use slimjar's isolated classloader thing
forest pecan
Like the appending thing
ocean quartz
Why do you need it to be isolated?
forest pecan
You can just use the agents
old wyvern
Wtf?
hallow crane
Why do you need it to be isolated?
Java 16
Agents? I'm not sure what that means because I don't have the docs
hallow crane
wait how does it workk on java 16
old wyvern
For isolated the args are: Application name, Isolation config and program arguments
old wyvern
wait how does it workk on java 16
Unsafe
old wyvern
Didnt you have that weird hacked version for a while?
No, never
humble silo
huh, maybe someone else that im thinking of then
old wyvern
It uses both the method you suggested and a method with jnsafe @hallow crane
humble silo
No, never
probably shouldnt have reported you to the tos then
dang, im sure it will be fine /s
forest pecan
Btw Yugi I fixed the issue
old wyvern
The one you suggested had some issues on specific hosts, so I have that as a fallback and use another version as the main one
old wyvern
Btw Yugi I fixed the issue
The url issue?
old wyvern
Oh lol
forest pecan
Itโs only a Windows issue
old wyvern
Ahh
forest pecan
Itโs the path names not being compatible because they arenโt converted
Hard to explain
old wyvern
I see
cinder flare
Itโs only a Windows issue
this is why WSL exists
cinder flare
ya but you get the best of both worlds right now
obtuse gale
what is this? hannah montana?
cinder flare
not having to choose a DE/WM and everything good about linux in terms of dev environment
obtuse gale
yeah true
hallow crane
For isolated the args are: Application name, Isolation config and program argume...
I need to isolate a single dependency (sqlite) how do I dod that using those arguments
obtuse gale
CraftBukkit already includes sqlite though 
hallow crane
LuckPerms does exactly that too
obtuse gale
i remember
obtuse gale
lol
hallow crane
You can't use it with hikari
cinder flare
you don't really need to tho
obtuse gale
i mean if you're gonna go isolated you don't
cinder flare
you could use like not hikari tho
hallow crane
I didn't write this code.... someone else did and I need to keep it that way
obtuse gale
mm
cinder flare
thanks to the glory of object oriented programming
hallow crane
Point is, how do I isolate and load that way
cinder flare
we can abstract away implementation details
hallow crane
actually it's very abstract
cinder flare
not abstract enough to not use Hikari?
obtuse gale
Point is, how do I isolate and load that way
well if it's isolated, you would also need to load hikari in that isolated class loader
hallow crane
yeah that's kind of handled
obtuse gale
"kind of"?
hallow crane
it doesn't need to be
IsolatedClassLoader classLoader = plugin.getDependencyInstantiation().getDependencyManagement().getIsolatedClassLoader();
try {
Class<?> connectionClass = classLoader.loadClass("org.sqlite.jdbc4.JDBC4Connection");
this.connectionConstructor = connectionClass.getConstructor(String.class, String.class, Properties.class);
} catch (ReflectiveOperationException e) {
throw new RuntimeException(e);
}
then later
return (Connection) this.connectionConstructor.newInstance("jdbc:sqlite:" + file.toString(), file.toString(), new Properties());
yes? that has nothing to do with hikari
LP doesn't use hikari for sqlite or h2
it uses a non-closeable connection
hallow crane
that's what I meant actually
obtuse gale
literally not hikari
obtuse gale
๐
obtuse gale
@yugi I guess? Idk if that is an available option on SJ, not a clue
hallow crane
@old wyvern
obtuse gale
like only a single jar instead of the whole application
hallow crane
I wanted to implement a jarinjar w/ multi platform support
but that would take like a week to refactor my entire app
I'd probably have to remake it from scratch
obtuse gale
i mean you can also make an exclusion in SJ for sqlite and just load it yourself with an isolated class loader, that is like another 3 classes at most, but if SJ has something for that that's cool ig
obtuse gale
why not?
hallow crane
it just...doesn't
Caused by: java.lang.reflect.InaccessibleObjectException: Unable to make protected void java.net.URLClassLoader.addURL(java.net.URL) accessible: module java.base does not "opens java.net" to unnamed module @60f604b0
you don't even need to do that?
hallow crane
using pulsebeat's downloader
obtuse gale
well the downloader itself has nothing to do with how you load the jar
cinder flare
pulsebeat what a guy
obtuse gale
that is trying to append it, not load it in an isolated class loader
obtuse gale
but they are two separate concepts
fetching and downloading the jar is step 1
how you load the jar has nothing to do with how or where you got it from
take a look at luckperms seriously
it's that, 3 classes
hallow crane
I understand how the entire process works
obtuse gale
then what's the issue
hallow crane
It's not that simple
obtuse gale
how is it not?
hallow crane
I looked at LP
it's intertwined with itself
It's not even close to as simple as copy pasting
obtuse gale
it very much is
hallow crane
It's not at all
I need a fully custom jar in jar loader
Create a jar of my implementation, and load that with a bootstrapper
It's totally fundamentally different
I need to build a whole new application for that
obtuse gale
that is literally what luckperms does
obtuse gale
you don't even need a separate module for an isolated loader for this
hallow crane
above
that's what LP does
I am not saying I want to do that
I am saying in order to do it like LP does it
I need to do that
obtuse gale
you don't even need to get LP's full setup to load sqlite on an isolated loader
hell you can even pull that off with a standalone application
no slimjar or anything
hallow crane
but you do though. In order to use that method you need another jar
obtuse gale
????
hallow crane
not the isolated part but the actual appending part
hallow crane
no I mean if you want to do both in the same project
obtuse gale
yeah you can without any hassle
hallow crane
I understand that appending is loading into your current group and isolating is loading into a whole new group
obtuse gale
the isolated jar loading is just 3 classes and it has absolutely nothing to do with modules or sj or appending or anything like that
you can do that anywhere
hallow crane
but I need to make a downloader too
that's my whole problem
if im using slimjar then I am not going to write my own version of it
just to download and load sqlite
obtuse gale
you already have the downloader...
hallow crane
obtuse gale
hallow crane
the way pulse's project works is that they are intertwined
obtuse gale
is it really that hard to put two brain cells together and figure out how to download a file by itself?
hallow crane
there is one master class that manages downloading relocating and loading
It's a waste of brain power
obtuse gale
there is one master class that manages downloading relocating and loading
downloading step one
you already have it
hallow crane
dude I understand how it works
hallow crane
It's not easy
obtuse gale
it fucking is
obtuse gale
already did
hallow crane
Pulse's system downloads ASM and ASM_COMMONS for jar related stuff. If I want to use sqlite isolated, I still need to download it. In order to download and package into a jar to load isolated, I need ASM and ASM_COMMONS which are both required to be appended to the current loader. The issue occurs when pulse's program appends them to the loader, and that error is thrown
old wyvern
<@!235475470806679554>
whats up?
hallow crane
Can you isolate and load a specific dependency with slimjar
old wyvern
Yes
hallow crane
Can you explain? I can't seem to find any docs
hallow crane
Okay nevermind thanks
old wyvern
You know the rest?
old wyvern
Do you want to inject it into a separate classloader?
old wyvern
obtuse gale
Pulse's system downloads ASM and ASM_COMMONS for jar related stuff. If I want to...
ASM is only required for relocations
You don't relocate sqlite, you don't need asm to download a file or load it with a class loader
And you're not appending, it's a completely different loader for a jar
hallow crane
I'm not talking about appending sqlite
the method in this loader uses the addUrl method to append a class to the loader
if its in an isolated loader it still appends it
it just happens to be isolated
vast canopy
Any good tutorials for making GUIs? Like I watched Kody Simpson's Armor Stand plugin tutorial which told me how to make a GUI and flip through menus and item meta in inventories. However:
I am trying to make an Elections plugin where it'll only let people with certain configured permissions run and vote in set elections. I want declarations where people can nominate themselves and then a 24 hour voting period where it'll then tabulate votes and give the winner a new perm group and remove the former incumbent's role.
I need good tutorials for:
1) Adding player heads to inventories with skins representing the candidates
2) How to display only election options for people with the perms (If statement, I just don't know the attribute to call for it)
3) Ensure each person only votes once, but can cancel their votes (Thinking of using hashmaps, but idk)
4) The method to count votes and give the vote winner the role, while removing the previous one (I could use luckperms commands for the last two but not sure if there is a better method for this)
5) Persistence through restarts and stops (Good database tutorial?)
Also I am completely new to plugin development so forgive me. I used to make mods but been a minute since I've programmed anything.
distant sun
prisma wave
๐
distant sun
why does iij wants me to add throws IllegalAccessException to one class constructor but not to another lol
cinder flare
maybe one of them throws an illegalaccessexception and the other doesn't
vast canopy
What the heck is a maven or gradle dependency? I don't use either of those I just made a raw Java project and hooked it to the spigot jar...
cinder flare
oh boy
Maven and Gradle are build tools
Essentially, people had a problem when working with other people
How do you ensure that each person has the exact same dependencies, the same versions, and everything
What if someone accidentally has a newer version of something that breaks something
So they invented build tools to standardize the process
Now, it's as easy as a few lines in your build.gradle and it will download the correct dependency for you and anyone who wants to build your project
One of the most important skills as a developer is using build tools correctly, so I would definitely look up how to use Gradle for a spigot plugin
prisma wave
Why is string a class and not a primitive?
why wouldn't it be?
actually
can you clarify what exactly you're asking
why was it designed as a class?
cinder flare
presumably, they think a string should be a primitive cause it's so widely used
prisma wave
or why is it a class
ocean quartz
It doesn't work at all with Bukkit 1.7
My man out here supporting dinosaurs
vast canopy
Do I have to use gradle? I am making a private plugin for my server so idc about other people downloading my thing
cinder flare
My man out here supporting dinosaurs
seriously you could see my jaw drop
prisma wave
Do I have to use gradle? I am making a private plugin for my server so idc about...
we will be sad if you don't
cinder flare
Do I have to use gradle? I am making a private plugin for my server so idc about...
It would be extremely useful for yourself as well
Lets just say, I have taken over a few of clip's plugins and he only used Eclipse
It was hell trying to reconstruct his build and making sure everything worked correctly
Any IDE will do a build tool 99% for you
vast canopy
I used gradle for modding
But idk how to use it for plugins
I started plugin dev yesterday
distant sun
maybe one of them throws an illegalaccessexception and the other doesn't
it does lol
cinder flare
oh boy
distant sun
prisma wave
I never had to do that in modding tho
you dont have to do it now either, it's just better
cinder flare
i would very much recommend it
it's a single line of code to get spigot
or any other dependency you'd like
vast canopy
Sigh any good tutorials for that?
I just want to make a simple voting GUI plugin ๐ญ
ocean quartz
I just want to make a simple voting GUI plugin ๐ญ
At the end of the day, using Gradle and a GUI lib will save you more time than if you wanted to do it the way you think would be "simple"
cinder flare
MF-GUI ๐
vast canopy
IJ will autogenerate it for you
I use Eclipse
cinder flare
well there's another mistake to fix
vast canopy
I hate IJ. Too many features and too complicated UI
cinder flare
I hate IJ. Too many features and too complicated UI
get a load of this guy @prisma wave
eclipse' UI is 100x more crowded and ugly looking
vast canopy
...
cinder flare
and how is too many features a bad thing
vast canopy
Cuz then idk wtf I am doing or clicking
I am not a software dev. I only know how to make mods for MC. That's it
And basic ones too
obtuse gale
Cuz then idk wtf I am doing or clicking
i mean you can ask
obtuse gale
let me rephrase
you can ask here
"what is this shit for?" "will i ever use this crap if I do this and that?"
we try to be a beginner welcoming community, so long as you are actually willing to learn
the only stupid people here are those that are not willing to learn
cinder flare
also you're asking in the wrong channel which is like 30% of why I'm being so mean
vast canopy
#development Didn't answer me. I asked there too
vast canopy
we try to be a beginner welcoming community, so long as you are actually willing...
Yeah I love to learn
cinder flare
doesn't seem like it
trim topaz
ohhh drama
vast canopy
Bruh I just want to know how to make a GUI with heads in it that counts votes. I don't want to switch IDE's to do that
I've used Eclipse for many years
cinder flare
I don't know of a single person here that I respect that uses Eclipse
and for good reason
If you want support, you're gonna have to use the thing everyone else uses
vast canopy
The support I am asking for is not IDE dependent
old wyvern
Ah yes, good ol' IDE wars
obtuse gale
Also eclipse lets you do the most disastrous thing ever which is build the jar file even with literal compilation errors
old wyvern
IntelliJ best as always
old wyvern
Also eclipse lets you do the most disastrous thing ever which is build the jar f...
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cinder flare
The support I am asking for is not IDE dependent
Have fun generating a build.gradle with eclipse lmao
prisma wave
tfw you start the conversation in #dev-general so the "No Favorite IDE Arguments" rule in #development doesn't hold ๐
old wyvern
Imagine not having MethodNotImplementedError at runtime!
vast canopy
Have fun generating a build.gradle with eclipse lmao
I just export the project as a jar...
What do I need a build.gradle for
old wyvern
What do I need a build.gradle for
For build management
vast canopy
what's that
old wyvern
It lets you properly define how you want to build your jar, resource processing, dependencies, relocation...ect...
old wyvern
For anything thats not just some hello world assignment, no, its not
vast canopy
I don't understand anything except my bit of Java I know
old wyvern
Thats fine, just start learning of the required tooling
vast canopy
I only want to make a plugin though
old wyvern
Dive in and just google through whatever puzzles you, and if you still dont find it, you can always ask here
vast canopy
I don't wanna become a full dev
old wyvern
There is no full dev
obtuse gale
making plugins demands quite a bit of a lot of knowledge beforehand
old wyvern
If you want to make plugins, you still need to know what you're doing
obtuse gale
that's something a lot of people dismiss and don't get
vast canopy
Why can't I just use Java lol
I just need an elections plugin. That's literally it. I don't need some weird build gradle when I know it is possible to do what I need with Java
old wyvern
All this is part of the java toolset
The language itself isnt what makes it great. Its the wide-spread tooling and library suppourt that makes it useful.
old wyvern
I just need an elections plugin. That's literally it. I don't need some weird bu...
See, this is what ussually happens with people who come along like this,
Wants to make something,
Asks for help from everyone for every single thing,
Unwilling to learn,
Finally, wastes everyones time
Commonly known as a help vampire.
vast canopy
No cuz I want help on one thing and you're telling me I have to switch IDE's
That's called being unhelpful
But look, I do IB at my school. I study law. I do IRL things
ocean quartz
If a person doesn't use an old IDE they don't know how to help you use said old IDE
vast canopy
I don't have time to learn fancy dev things when all I want is to be pointed toward the methods that allow me to change head textures lol
vast canopy
If a person doesn't use an old IDE they don't know how to help you use said old ...
I don't need IDE help. I need help with the code
hallow crane
What's your problem @vast canopy
ocean quartz
Firstly this isn't the channel for that, that'd be #development
vast canopy
Any good tutorials for making GUIs? Like I watched Kody Simpson's Armor Stand pl...
.
@hallow crane
prisma wave
The language itself isnt what makes it great. Its the wide-spread tooling and li...
Java isn't great!!
dense dew
papi in haskell when
old wyvern
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hallow crane
- Add player head items with skin attribute โ
- Upon open, only add item if permission is met โ
- Ensure each person only votes once, but can cancel their votes (Thinking of using hashmaps, but idk) hashmaps โ
- The method to count votes and give the vote winner the role, while removing the previous one luckperms + meta โ
- Persistence through restarts and stops (Good database tutorial?) h2, json, yaml, or mysql โ
prisma wave
All you need is Stack, Cabal and GHC in your life
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cinder flare
ayy even yako is on board
hallow crane
It's not optional
vast canopy
Why is it required
hallow crane
Unless you want to fuck yourself over and add it to classpath
obtuse gale
That's called being unhelpful
No, that is called not willing to see the full picture, "I only need this", if a handful of people are telling you to do it in a certain way then it is for a reason
cinder flare
it's literally how you get external libraries
vast canopy
I added spigot to class path
hallow crane
you're missing this entire point
cinder flare
adding to the class path comes with a myriad of problems
ocean quartz
Because it's a build tool and a dependency manager, unless you want to create the libs by yourself you'll need to to add the libs you'll need
cinder flare
it will be much easier if you stop resisting and learn a single build tool
humble silo
adding to the class path comes with a myriad of problems
now try the module path
ugh
hallow crane
if you want to use these libraries you NEED TO USE GRADLE OR MAVEN. It's how all of those libraries ALLOW YOU TO ACCESS THEM
old wyvern
Documentation
hallow crane
obtuse gale
it is part of the learning process, that's what you are not seeing either
vast canopy
No. The basics
old wyvern
vast canopy
How do I get gradle
hallow crane
it's free
old wyvern
install gradle, use gradle init
vast canopy
use where? what?
old wyvern
Or just use IJ to generate your project with it
old wyvern
use where? what?
terminal
cinder flare
Or just use IJ to generate your project with it
Eclipse ๐ฅฒ
prisma wave
We do a little trolling
vast canopy
Ok I'd be willing to switch to IJ except every time I do the stupid "run" button always errors
cinder flare
You're not supposed to use the run button
prisma wave
You problem
cinder flare
you're supposed to click shadowJar ๐
obtuse gale
it's literally right there you fucking twat
hallow crane
emilyy, please
vast canopy
shadowJar? huh?
obtuse gale
wdym "unable to resolve"
cinder flare
it's literally right there you fucking twat
looks like your data source doesn't have that table
obtuse gale
fendgsjofnajsdfds
cinder flare
probably the wrong one or something
cinder flare
someone should really write a whole paragraph about what a build tool is
hallow crane
and why its not compilable
old wyvern
shadowJar? huh?
Gradle allows plugins that simplify your build, one example is Shadow which provides a task called shadowJar, this copies the classes in your libraries into your jar
obtuse gale
they tell you what's....wrong
except the db integration ones ๐ฅฒ
hallow crane
hallow crane
except the db integration ones ๐ฅฒ
Lol yeah
vast canopy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nabjqv8KDgc
Thanks this is helpful yay
hallow crane
๐
cinder flare
ah he's a video learner
cinder flare
hopefully his lawyer classes are videos and not reading-related
old wyvern
Gradle has a official tutorial series
vast canopy
docs is just a wall of text written in a way that only devs understand
hallow crane
I hate docs too
vast canopy
hopefully his lawyer classes are videos and not reading-related
Because lawyers actually know how to write
hallow crane
but sometimes I gotta take a shot and read them
humble silo
Gradle has a official tutorial series
smh imagine not being subbed to them on yt
cinder flare
Because lawyers actually know how to write
any legal document is just a wall of text written in a way only lawyers understand
cinder flare
yes but you're trying to program
vast canopy
I want to program a simple thing
cinder flare
and reading about how things work is part of programming
a gui with heads is actually quite complicated
humble silo
Yes but I study law
automatically smarter than everyone else here
vast canopy
automatically smarter than everyone else here
Not necessarily
cinder flare
automatically smarter than everyone else here
yeah bro didn't you see, he takes IB classes, he's too busy to be here with us peasants
hallow crane
"Part 1: fundamentals" makes me think it's 20 minutes long
vast canopy
yeah bro didn't you see, he takes IB classes, he's too busy to be here with us p...
This is why people think devs are dicks
humble silo
smh
old wyvern
xD
cinder flare
This is why people think devs are dicks
This is why people think lawyers are dicks
humble silo
NOW
vast canopy
This is why people think lawyers are dicks
Lawyers are dicks
humble silo
sorry
hallow crane
Lol
old wyvern
This is why people think devs are dicks
This is why we now think lawyers are dicks
hallow crane
aint nobody got time for htatklsafsd
cinder flare
You come here and refuse to learn or change anything until we batter you for half an hour
obtuse gale
what is going on anymore
old wyvern
A dev-lawyer war
hallow crane
I called someone fat at school and they told they're friends and now I lost my date for prom
old wyvern
Nice
hallow crane
the second part is made up tho
cinder flare
This guy's like 15 and he refuses to learn the basics of programming to... get this... program something
cinder flare
the second part is made up tho
what, they didn't tell their friends, or you never had a date for the prom?
hallow crane
prom was cancelled
old wyvern
"Hi, I want to own Amazon. No, No, I dont want to work, I will lay in that bed, bring me wealth peasents!"
hallow crane
I never lost my date
cinder flare
I never lost my date
ayyy that's pretty good
cinder flare
"Hi, I want to own Amazon. No, No, I dont want to work, I will lay in that bed, ...
I'm not here to become a CEO, i just want to run a company
old wyvern
I'm not here to become a CEO, i just want to run a company
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humble silo
I'm not here to become a CEO, i just want to run a company
Can you tell me when you startup so i can laugh at you? /s
old wyvern
What if star already owns a 40% share at google!!!
obtuse gale
lol
old wyvern
Absolutely, a gradle-less billionaire
Suppourted by the true super-power of Java, Boilerplate
hallow crane
I am prepared to give a tutorial in a discord call for gradle
static zealot
just the power of pure java
Star โ Today at 01:25
sleepy time
Star โ Today at 01:57
just the power of pure java
no libraries
cinder flare
Star โ Today at 01:25
> sleepy time
Star โ Today at 01:57
> just the power of p...
something came up
static zealot
xD
cinder flare
i wanted to witness the downfall of this guy
old wyvern
As the name suggests, Star is high ๐
static zealot
what guy?
old wyvern
Did he leave?
flint cipher
who's the IB guy
cinder flare
not yet
old wyvern
oh nope
flint cipher
oof
old wyvern
Our high priest
cinder flare
just search this channel for eclipse and it's the green name guy
static zealot
607059550373281792 ?
hallow crane
what is IB
cinder flare
gives people a superiority complex tho
cinder flare
yeah
old wyvern
Whats AP?
hallow crane
because at that point i was already writing java shit for stuff
flint cipher
gives people a superiority complex tho
or permanent trauma
cinder flare
Whats `AP`?
advanced placement
hallow crane
"Advanced Placement"
old wyvern
Ah
hallow crane
its pretty dumb shit
cinder flare
yeah it's pretty bad
cinder flare
I got more help in uni from my ACT score than I got from AP classes lmao
cinder flare
33
cinder flare
36 reading/english, 30 science, 31 math
hallow crane
I got a 34 english
flint cipher
What u studying @cinder flare
cinder flare
Computer Science
hallow crane
composite 29
cinder flare
composite 29
that is not bad
cinder flare
oh? where did you want to go
cinder flare
oh well yeah
flint cipher
Computer Science
which year?
hallow crane
I should lie on my college apps saying I am a black, hispanic, asian, transgender born woman
cinder flare
which year?
grad 2024 with bachelors
old wyvern
xD
flint cipher
I see
hallow crane
it's not illegal
flint cipher
Same as me ๐
cinder flare
I definitely shot (ironically) very moderately with my college
hallow crane
I am going to try and get a job at google without a degree and if it doens't work im going to get a bachelors
cinder flare
went for a nice school in my state with a pretty okay CS program
flint cipher
I am going to try and get a job at google without a degree and if it doens't wor...
without a degree?
๐ค
old wyvern
You from utah as well star?
hallow crane
they dont require them anymore
cinder flare
You from utah as well star?
technically born in california, but lived most of my life in utah yeah
cinder flare
nope
cinder flare
trust me, being not mormon in utah is pretty rough
hallow crane
Lmao
cinder flare
the mountains are very nice tho
old wyvern
Mormon?
cinder flare
I wish I liked nature more
old wyvern
oh
cinder flare
pretty hard to find not-mormon girls lmao
but whatevs
i'll take the full-ride scholarship
and just be lonely ๐ฅฒ
old wyvern
Is that just another branch of Christianity or completely separate?
cinder flare
kinda yeah
christianity but everyone hated them so they fled west and made their own state
old wyvern
ahh
cinder flare
now they're just like ultra christians
old wyvern
ah, theres a branch that does only that right?
cinder flare
uh, not that I'm aware of?
old wyvern
I forgot what it was called
cinder flare
maybe you're thinking of alabama?
old wyvern
They dont accept anyone from another community, if you marry someone from an external community they kick you out
cinder flare
ya it's not really like that
I mean I've lived in utah nearly my whole life so I kinda act like a mormon
old wyvern
i swear theres one that does that
cinder flare
the amish?
old wyvern
Starts with a b I think
ocean quartz
Dude mormons are fucking crazy
old wyvern
anyway, gn ๐
ocean quartz
In my city there were 2 momon dudes around 16/17yo, that would go around and try converting people
They were americans, in Portugal, with 0 Portuguese, alone in the country with just money from their parents
old wyvern
In my city there were 2 momon dudes around 16/17yo, that would go around and try...
Lmao
old wyvern
Missionaries of Haskell ๐
cinder flare
they take advantage of poor people and convert them
ocean quartz
I mean other branches have missionaries too, but they are too young
cinder flare
ya usually missions are from like 18-20
like after you graduate high school
kinda sucks to lose all your friends for two years ๐ฆ
ocean quartz
The Christianity branch i was "born into" and grew out of (evangelics, like a branch of protestants, a branch of a branch, it's like spigot at this point), they tend to send missionaries to middle eastern countries, which is very ๐ฌ
cinder flare
oh yeah mormons send them to mexico and africa a lot
one of my friends went to bulgaria?
something like that
ocean quartz
I praise them for their courage tbh
cinder flare
yeahhhh
kinda rough
i do wish their views on modern issues were a little more... progressive
let's just say, there's a reason why Utah has the highest rate of teenage pregnancies in the united states
cinder flare
But hey "abstinence is the best contraceptive" ๐ฅฒ
tranquil crane
does anyone have access to view the spigot repos that can show me the comments on this PR lol https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/craftbukkit/pull-requests/866/overview
tranquil crane
apparently 1.17 loads entities async which has effectively destroyed my plugin that relies on getting entities on chunk loads
cinder flare
i mean it sounds good for server performance tho
ocean quartz
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obtuse gale
oh yeah i've heard of a lot of people "complaining" about that
obtuse gale
i mean it sounds good for server performance tho
and it is
obtuse gale
they are saved in a separate file and loaded in another thread
obtuse gale
lmao
tranquil crane
I'm kind of curious what the solution was to the issue in that PR
it's a bit annoying you can't even view the contents without signing that CLA
frail glade
It's because the perms are all the same.
obtuse gale
ideally we would've gotten a new event though, idk EntityLoadEvent, WorldLoadEntityEvent, whatever
It was kinda needed ever since we needed to get entities from the chunkloadevent for new entities from world gen
because that was a stupid workaround
that now does not work ๐คก
tranquil crane
an event like that would be wonderful
obtuse gale
the diff for the bukkit PR though ๐
LMAO
oh and it adds some pretty nice methods for Chunk and World regarding all this
since now they are loaded async, you can call a loadEntitiesAsync method with a callback and all that
obtuse gale
:md5:
obtuse gale
does anyone know a pvpstats plugin with custom level rewards
half harness
wrong channel
steel heart
People must think
"I need plugin help then I am dev thus dev-general"
tranquil crane
well they also posted it in a couple other channels
obtuse gale
it's a bit annoying you can't even view the contents without signing that CLA
The one thing I later on regretted about that CLA was sharing my phone number
Good thing my line got cut and I had to get a new one like literally yesterday :^)
tranquil crane
did you get called or something
obtuse gale
Nah
half harness
improvements
vast canopy
Should I use Maven or Gradle?
Also what's the difference between GroupID and ArtifactID?
vast canopy
Good to know
obtuse gale
Lmao
half harness
Also what's the difference between GroupID and ArtifactID?
GroupID specifies the group - for example com.google or if you don't have a domain, then use something unique - for ex com.github.dkim19375 (if you have github) or me.dkim19375
ArtifactID iirc is for the project - so for example bedwars
obtuse gale
io*.github, com.github is deprecated and sonatype does not accept it anymore
But ye :>
humble silo
improvements
Dang i like that! Whats it for?
humble silo
oh wow havent heard of that at all lol
half harness
didn't mean to be anything like that, so i didn't use a game engine or anything
oh
lol
its just a circle running away from another circle
with some coins to collect to get new skins
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
humble silo
lol that sounds pretty cool, so you are doing all the hit detection and stuff on your own?
half harness
mhm, I'm looking to make it multiplayer but since there are diff monitor sizes and stuff I'll have to make a map.. but I haven't figured out how to detect the walls and stuff yet
and for hit detection i just measure the distance
humble silo
Huh cool, I was also looking for a library like tornadofx so i might try it out!