dev-general

[ocean quartz]

Gray

[half harness]

but

[static zealot]

yeah that background kinda kills my eyes

[ocean quartz]

#111

[static zealot]

for some reason

idk

[obtuse gale]

Anybody here familiar with context diagrams?

[static zealot]

nicolulu

[boreal needle]

no

thats too weebish

[static zealot]

coolulu

[ocean quartz]

She'll break your nico nico kneecaps

[boreal needle]

uwu

[static zealot]

ugh?

am I missing a reference or something?

[old wyvern]

Nico de' Angelo

[static zealot]

oh

I googled it

fuck

[boreal needle]

my cringe 12 year old "girlfriend" used to go round saying nico nico nii unironically

[prisma wave]

😌 😌 😌 😌 😌 😌 😌 😌 😌 😌

a man of culture

[old wyvern]

😌

[merry gate]

Hello! Does someone know how to play the block break animation using Protocolllib? Im struggling xD

[ocean quartz]

Cursed

[merry gate]

https://imgur.com/a/LtbcJ1f

[static zealot]

#development pls

[half harness]

#development

[ocean quartz]

#development

[static zealot]

ty

[old wyvern]

I swear that character entered as a demon and they finished the series with him being a shy gay kid

[static zealot]

lmao

[half harness]

lol

[prisma wave]

Same difference really

[merry gate]

Sry

[old wyvern]

lol

[prisma wave]

he entered shy

kinda

Idk it's been a while

[static zealot]

imagine watching anime. I didn't even finish AOT

smh

[prisma wave]

Luckily this isn't anime

[old wyvern]

not anime

lol

[static zealot]

oh

[old wyvern]

Percy Jackson

[static zealot]

oh

[ocean quartz]

Wow wow, you give shame to weeb mitten!!

[static zealot]

the movies?

or?

[prisma wave]

GOD NO

absolutely not

[static zealot]

xD

[old wyvern]

The book

lol

[prisma wave]

I am a fake weeb, an imposter, you might say

[old wyvern]

I cant find my normal percy jackson ones

[prisma wave]

The films are atrocious

horrendously bad

[boreal needle]

i am disappointed

[old wyvern]

found a heroes of olympus copy

[prisma wave]

That series is lowkey better

[prisma wave]

I'm not

[old wyvern]

Yea its pretty great

[static zealot]

I should probably start reading books again

I Used to love reading

[old wyvern]

I also read the first part of the apollo series

[ocean quartz]

At least the movies had Alexandra Daddario and her 2 beautiful .. blue eyes

[static zealot]

xD

[prisma wave]

blue

[old wyvern]

😌

[prisma wave]

🤬

[static zealot]

we all know what you meant Matt

[prisma wave]

Yeah I've only read the first one, didn't the final one come out a few months ago?

Also the Norse and Egyptian spin offs are really good too, would recommend

[old wyvern]

Theres another movies that shows exactly what he means

[hot hull]

ngl, I can finally see stuff properly with this new monitor

[old wyvern]

But youll have to search somewhere else

[static zealot]

is there now?

[old wyvern]

Yes

[static zealot]

Ic

[prisma wave]

why would you want to see java properly 🤓 😊 😏

[ocean quartz]

That's why you use Matton One Dark and increase font size 😌

[lunar cypress]

Every time someone mentions the percy jackson movies someone must send screenshots of the book author's tweets regarding the matter

[hot hull]

I have not opened IJ in over a month, couldn't care less about the theme right now

[old wyvern]

I didnt like those much 🥲

[ocean quartz]

Percy Jackson but with Thor!!

[prisma wave]

Yeah it literally was

It was sick

[prisma wave]

I think they were pretty fun but not as good as the originals

[old wyvern]

yea

[prisma wave]

Dude I read that about 4 times back to back when I was on holiday at like 11 years old

Masterpiece

[old wyvern]

yea man they completely ruined sea of monsters

Why the fuck does kronos wake up in that

[ocean quartz]

Reminds me of God of war, Kratos going into norse mythology

[prisma wave]

Didn't he also write an entire blog post about some school using the films or something?

[old wyvern]

We never got the luke empowered with kronos fight

[lunar cypress]

I don't know about that

[static zealot]

I've only read sea of mosters

1 and 2

[prisma wave]

We never got any of the good bits

[old wyvern]

Yea

[static zealot]

oh wait

there wasn't a 2

was therE?

I Don't remember

[prisma wave]

There was

5 in total

[static zealot]

oh

[old wyvern]

And the first movie actually make Hades the theif

[static zealot]

nvm then

[old wyvern]

It was supposed to be just luke

[half harness]

opinions on background?

[prisma wave]

They're making a Disney+ adaptation though so there's hope 😌

[old wyvern]

Hades was supposed to be innocent

[ocean quartz]

It's not dark gray

[old wyvern]

more or less

[static zealot]

not bad.

[prisma wave]

yeah stupid film makers don't understand the point of a plot twist

[half harness]

but gray is dull

[old wyvern]

Yea

[half harness]

color 😌

[ocean quartz]

You're dull

[static zealot]

hope for what? its disney ...

[prisma wave]

yeah we're gonna make the plot as predictable as possible, that whats the audience want

[old wyvern]

lol

[half harness]

🤔

[prisma wave]

disney as a company suck but their series's don't miss

[static zealot]

it makes them feel good while watching

[old wyvern]

Man I would have loved to see The Last Titan properly done in live action

[prisma wave]

and they're actually working with the original author to adapt it

[ocean quartz]

What color is that? lol

[prisma wave]

Which is progress

[half harness]

gray

[old wyvern]

Wait really?

[hot hull]

Excuse me?

[boreal needle]

windows announcement time thing :D

[prisma wave]

Do you mean titans curse?

[old wyvern]

let me check the name

[prisma wave]

Yup, I don't think they can give much information yet but it definitely exists

[ocean quartz]

Did you have to choose the ugliest gray possible?

[old wyvern]

I remember it as The Last Titan

[prisma wave]

Hm

Maybe that was the translated version or something

[half harness]

😒 whats a good color for dark gray?

[boreal needle]

#333

[old wyvern]

The Last Olympian*

[old wyvern]

Titans curse is the 3rd book I think

[half harness]

#333333?

[lunar cypress]

Christ how many more were there

[prisma wave]

Yeah

[ocean quartz]

#2A2D32

[lunar cypress]

I stopped reading at some point

[prisma wave]

Heroes of Olympus series came a few years later with 5 new ones

With romans

[half harness]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[lunar cypress]

I read like the first 2 of those

[half harness]

but i mean

[ocean quartz]

Better

[lunar cypress]

And then stopped

[prisma wave]

that one was so good

[lunar cypress]

Was that it?

[old wyvern]

1. Lightning Theif
2. Sea of Monsters
3. Titans Curse
4. Battle of the Labyrinth
5. The last Olympian

[half harness]

it looks a lot better than my gray xD

[ocean quartz]

It's discord's gray

[half harness]

oh

[old wyvern]

Theres also an extra book that gives the backstory of the gods and other demigods

[prisma wave]

Then

1. Lost hero
2. Son of Neptune
3. Mark of athena
4. House of Hades (objectively the best)
5. Blood of Olympus

[prisma wave]

Was that the one with the haunted house sorta thing

With the evil curtains and the dogs

[old wyvern]

no just a separate book with multiple individual stories

[half harness]

matt how's this look?

[old wyvern]

Like the birth of the great 3

[half harness]

vs this

lol

[prisma wave]

Oh hmm

[old wyvern]

😌

[half harness]

also note that this is supposed to be a game

[old wyvern]

Festus The Dragon Ship

[prisma wave]

Was that demigod diaries yugi?

[ocean quartz]

Did you make it slightly greener? But better than the blue

[prisma wave]

yeah with the cheerleaders in the woods

Or something

[old wyvern]

Im not sure bm, I read it like 5 years ago

[prisma wave]

Partiers

Yeah me neither lmao

[old wyvern]

Percy Jackson and the Greek Gods Maybe?

not sure

[half harness]

i just took a screenshot of my intellij theme and put it on a website

[prisma wave]

Oh yeah

[half harness]

to get the color

[prisma wave]

Demigod diaries was the one with the short stories

[old wyvern]

The book had a green cover

[old wyvern]

yea then thats probably it

[prisma wave]

😌

[old wyvern]

😌

[prisma wave]

Gotta read the apollo ones sometime

[half harness]

this looks questionable

[old wyvern]

Yea I havent found the second part in any nearby stores yet

[old wyvern]

lmao

I mean all 3 tho

All of them broke their pact

Thalia -> Zeus
Percy -> Poseidon
Nico -> Hades

[prisma wave]

That's kinda the point though lol

The gods are all incompetent

[old wyvern]

lol

Quick question, do you read Hades as Hay-De-s or Hay-ds

[prisma wave]

Hay-deez

Hay-deez nuts

[old wyvern]

xD

[prisma wave]

🤣 🤣 🤣

[lunar cypress]

"Hay" 🤢

Imagine being a native english speaker

[prisma wave]

i think that's how you're supposed to pronounce it

google agrees with me

😎

[lunar cypress]

Not the english pronunciation dumb dumb

[forest pecan]

Hidma

Hidma balls

[prisma wave]

don't care that's the real pronunciation

[forest pecan]

Hay ds

I use that way

[prisma wave]

yeah ok "greek"

but that's not important

[lunar cypress]

"Hay" is just disgusting

[old wyvern]

Spa-ds

[old wyvern]

What else is used?

Hey ?

uh

[prisma wave]

🙄 🙄

[lunar cypress]

No

[prisma wave]

hey 👋😊

[old wyvern]

ok so, what is used?

[lunar cypress]

Do you want me to list all pronunciations without "Hay" in all languages of the world?

[old wyvern]

No like in english

[lunar cypress]

Nothing

[old wyvern]

Oh, I thought you were saying Hay wasnt english pronounciation

[boreal needle]

theyre integrating ms teams into windows 11 ._.

[lunar cypress]

No I was saying english is disgusting 😄

[prisma wave]

average "other languages" fans vs english appreciators

[old wyvern]

lol

[prisma wave]

https://c.tenor.com/vryf32uQU68AAAAM/cry-about-it.gif

[old wyvern]

Is that guy... eating a... brick?

[prisma wave]

yes 😵‍💫 😵‍💫

[ocean quartz]

Wtf is wrong with these people lmao

[prisma wave]

Well

[old wyvern]

oh my

[prisma wave]

2 bricks to be precise

[prisma wave]

I'm more concerned about how he still has teeth

[lunar cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-cat-kitten-stock-market-gamestop-gif-20498212

[prisma wave]

https://c.tenor.com/_vq-ZFATcgsAAAAM/seethe-cope.gif

[ocean quartz]

#development

[vagrant bobcat]

👍

[obtuse gale]

So ive gotta make a data dictionary that shows all the variables i use, but how do i show an example of a variable, do i just like show how id define it or something, just wondering iff anyone heres done one and knows how i can do this

[humble silo]

Shouldnt this not really work in kotlin?

data class TestType<in T>(private val value: T)

class GenericsTest {
    @Test
    fun testGenericConversion() {
        val a: TestType<Number> = TestType(1.toShort())
        val b : TestType<Double> = a
        println(b)
    }
}

I guess i see why this works but it would be a terrible design, right?

[old wyvern]

wdym? seems fine

[humble silo]

Well it runs ya, but it kinda looks like you are trying to cast a short to a double

[ocean quartz]

That could probably be a value class right?

[humble silo]

though i guess i get why it works

[old wyvern]

Thats not it

All of them are converted to Number

[humble silo]

if you go in the debugger they arent

[old wyvern]

in Number means anything above number can be passed into it

[humble silo]

the field in B is still a short

<? super Number> right?

is effectively the same

[old wyvern]

because a short is a Number

[ocean quartz]

Numbers are kinda interchangeable, for example 1 is a short but 1.0 is a double, etc

[old wyvern]

=Thing is, that TestType cant produce a Double even after you assigned it to that

the in limits you to only being able to take in that type

look up contravariance

[humble silo]

ya thats what ive been reading about and why i made this test

I get why it works, but it just seems kinda weird

Would saying in T be the same thing in java as ? super T?

[lunar cypress]

Not the same

This is declaration site variance

Wildcards are only in type use

But effectively the same

Super wildcards allow contravariance

[prisma wave]

I don't get that, isn't the only thing above Number an an Object?

[old wyvern]

I meant as in extending

so Integer, Double, Long, Float, Byte ...ect...

[lunar cypress]

That is wrong though

That would be covariance

If you have a type Foo<in T>
Foo<Double> is assignable from Foo<Number> but not vice versa

covariance (the opposite) is out

[old wyvern]

I never said the reverse was possible

I simply said the generic can be changed to any of the extending types

[lunar cypress]

Can you please illustrate what you mean

Your words seem contradictory

[old wyvern]

You want me to draw?

[lunar cypress]

no

illustrate also means explain, elaborate, give an example

[old wyvern]

I mean Foo<in T> can be assigned to some Foo<S> where S extends T

Its a consumer of any T

[lunar cypress]

That is not correct

[prisma wave]

🥴

[old wyvern]

How so?

[lunar cypress]

I'm not sure why you use this example in the first place, variance is used in the assignment target

[old wyvern]

The example is of an assignment target

[lunar cypress]

In your example Foo<in T> is not the target

[old wyvern]

as in the rhs?

it is

[lunar cypress]

the target is not the right hand side

[old wyvern]

Im not sure what you are going to here. What exactly is wrong there?

[lunar cypress]

Well, terminology for one, it seems

But also, it just doesn't make sense on a type level

kotlinc does not accept that

Unless there's something else I'm misunderstanding about what you're saying here

Can we maybe get away from assignment and just talk in terms of typing relations

[old wyvern]

as in

// a: Foo<in T>
Foo<S> b = a
``` is invalid?

[lunar cypress]

Yes

[old wyvern]

Im not sure I understand

What I read about it says exactly that that is valid

[lunar cypress]

This example doesn't make sense to me

[old wyvern]

What would be your correction in that?

[lunar cypress]

but I also tested it

Well without any context there is nothing to correct lol

S extends T => Foo<in T> extends Foo<S> is simply an incorrect statement

I am using "extends" as in "is a sub type of"

[old wyvern]

Foo<S> extends Foo<in T>

[lunar cypress]

That is still not correct

And even if that were true

Assignments don't work like that

Assignments are covariant

The same way you cant assign Object to String

Foo<S> and Foo<in T> are actually fully disjoint

they share no values whatsoever

Assuming that S != T

[old wyvern]

fun main() {
    val a: Test<in Number> = A()
    val b: Test<Int> = a
    b.test(5)
}
​
​
interface Test<in T> {
  fun test(t: T);
}
​
class A: Test<Number> {
    override fun test(t: Number) {
        println(t)
    }
}

[lunar cypress]

Now you're doing something different

In your previous example, you once specified variance and once didn't

So I assumed there was no declaration site variance

[old wyvern]

Ok, now, is this example not correct?

[lunar cypress]

This example is correct

Because Test<in Number> extends Test<in Int>

It would not be correct without declaration site in however

[old wyvern]

in in the first one, right?

[lunar cypress]

No, in your class declaration

[old wyvern]

It seems to be accepted by kotlinc

Even without the in in the type def of a tbh

[lunar cypress]

I am talking about the type parameter declaration of Test.

Because Test<in Number> generally does not extend Test<Int> because generics are invariant by default

[old wyvern]

ah, got it

    val a: Test<in Number> = A()
    val b: Test<Int> = a

Doesnt seem to be accepted, but works with in Int (without the in in the interface)

My bad

[lunar cypress]

Yes, right

[cinder flare]

Bruh

[static zealot]

xD

[ocean quartz]

Lmao

[static zealot]

read a bit lower

tho

he doesn't even know what your code looks like

lmao

so yeah you don't really have any chances :))))

@half harness u busy?

still working Ic

[half harness]

im converting my game theme into a nicer one

[static zealot]

👍

[cinder flare]

😌

[half harness]

lol

[cinder flare]

I think I've done quite a good job on this recent punishment plugin I've brought forward like 4 years

[half harness]

what level am i?

doubt im good enough to get accepted 😔 but how far am i?

[static zealot]

dkim wanna take a 2 games break? xD

[half harness]

uh

ok

[wooden adder]

What is the best way to Match materials that users input in configs between the new versions of mc and the older ones

I am using XMaterial right now but it doesnt seem to be working very well

[cinder flare]

You hit em with the

?materials

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

Material Lists

• 1.8.8
• 1.12.2
• 1.13.2
• 1.14.x
• 1.15.2
• Latest (1.16.x)

Requested by: Starmism • materials

[static zealot]

isn't x materials suppose to handle all of that for u tho?

[old wyvern]

😮

LiteBans?

[static zealot]

I haven't used xmaterials before so idk

[wooden adder]

It is but it's weird

[cinder flare]

Nah it's called Bungee Admin Tools

[wooden adder]

I dont know if im not using it right but when a user inputs like ACACIA_LOG it still wont work

[old wyvern]

oh

[wooden adder]

they have to use LOG_2

and it gets confusing

[ocean quartz]

You set your api-version to 1.13 and then you use matchXMaterial that's all you need

[wooden adder]

Yeah I do that but then I encounter the issue I just mentioned

I just don't want to it be confusing for them

[ocean quartz]

And did you set the api version?

[wooden adder]

yeah ofc

They still have to use LOG_2 not ACACIA_LOG and it can be like that for many different blocks

can get confusing for them

[static zealot]

that shouldn't be the case tho

if the api version is 1.13

[ocean quartz]

I mean if they are on an older version if they type ACACIA_LOG it won't work, because that's not the name, the user needs to type the correct material name based on the version

[half harness]

@static zealot join

[static zealot]

done 👍

[half harness]

ty

[static zealot]

omfg

[half harness]

?

[static zealot]

Linus spent $250k on alpaca wool

[half harness]

what

alpaca wool?

[static zealot]

did I spell it wrong?

[half harness]

no im surprised

[static zealot]

oh yeah. its the stock for 1 year of pillows

bcz the price is going up and their manufacturer wanted them to stock up on it

so I guess if you want to invest in something, invest in alpaca wool !? xD

[timber oak]

Does Math.round() not remove the decimals completely or will it still say for example 3.0 after rounding?

[old wyvern]

Math.round returns a long/int depending on the argument, so yea, you wont have the decimal place when converting it to string

[timber oak]

Hmmm

It's still there though

[distant sun]

toFixed(0)

[timber oak]

?

[old wyvern]

What are you printing?

[timber oak]

toFixed() is not a thing

Atleast I cant find it

[timber oak]

3.0 as an example

[old wyvern]

No, I mean show the snippet where you print

[timber oak]

It's just confusing but sure

prRank is the one that got rounded

[old wyvern]

And the entire output string too please

[old wyvern]

What type are you using for prRank

[timber oak]

Double

[old wyvern]

...

[static zealot]

xD

[old wyvern]

Thats the issue

[timber oak]

Oh what

[static zealot]

even if Math#round returns an int it will get converted to a double xD

bcz your prRank is a double

[old wyvern]

You're using a floating point number

[distant sun]

or that java lol

[timber oak]

So ig I need to cast to int lol

[old wyvern]

No

You're already getting an int from Math.round

[timber oak]

I cannot multiply doubles with ints right?

[static zealot]

you can

[old wyvern]

Yes you can

[timber oak]

Oh my

[static zealot]

the output will be a double tho

[timber oak]

Then there's no reason for it to be a double...

[static zealot]

yes there is

[timber oak]

Oh okay

[static zealot]

bcz you declared it as a double ...

[timber oak]

Yesyes ik

But like I could've made it as an int then

In the code

[static zealot]

yeah. if you don't need it to be a double at all

you can

[timber oak]

That fixes it, also removes the .0

[static zealot]

well it doesn't remove it

bcz its not there at all

now

[timber oak]

Ah yeah true

[static zealot]

@half harness u afk?

[half harness]

no

[static zealot]

o

[half harness]

:)

[timber oak]

Is it possible to print something in bold to IntelliJ terminal?

[distant sun]

if a spigot plugin is run on a server with mods - idk how, just saying - is possible to let the user to use namespace key:material id to use either modded items or vanilla items?

[prisma wave]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4842424/list-of-ansi-color-escape-sequences

[timber oak]

Tyvm

[boreal needle]

how the hell did i manage that

[half harness]

❓

what is tha tgraph

[timber oak]

Active servers with the plugin I think?

[half harness]

oh

[timber oak]

Not sure

[boreal needle]

yeah it is

its just off my bstats

[timber oak]

That's really good stats though

Well done

[boreal needle]

thanks :)

almost 100 servers

[timber oak]

What is the plugin

[boreal needle]

pronouns

https://bstats.org/plugin/bukkit/ProNouns/9519

its so niche that im honestly surprised i managed to do this well

i was expecting like 20 max

[timber oak]

Ohhh I see, great idea for a plugin

[boreal needle]

oh thanks

turns out there's a lot of lgbt+ servers that want this kind of stuff

[timber oak]

Yeah seems like it

[static zealot]

and probably some troll servers in there as well

[boreal needle]

probably

they bump the numbers up tho

i had some big factions server staff team come and troll in my support server once

[prisma wave]

when the contributors to society have something to say

society is a better place thanks to mediocre generic factions servers 😌

[boreal needle]

ok now i look its not even that big

still super immature of them

[prisma wave]

we do a little delinquency

[cinder flare]

i've heard that before 🥲

[forest pecan]

damn

Instant break up?

[cinder flare]

nah just kidding, i'm still an innocent boi

[forest pecan]

Yeah virgin better

[cinder flare]

well I never said that

[forest pecan]

👀

[distant sun]

https://i.imgur.com/CyCJ8MH.png Java <in whatever version this was added> ❤️

[ocean quartz]

9 I think

Actually just checked, 10

[distant sun]

amazing

cant be used for fields? 😦

[quiet depot]

var

never used it

probably never will

[distant sun]

sucks to be you

[ocean quartz]

Nah only local variables

[distant sun]

not bad

[cinder flare]

i thought they expanded it in like java 13

[ocean quartz]

Don't think so

[cinder flare]

ah yeah you right

man if only they did the kotlin way and allowed it everywhere

would really help java methinks

[quaint isle]

yo gaby that pikachu background looks super fire 😳

[forest pecan]

Who’s

[quaint isle]

scroll up a few messages 🔥

[steel heart]

var is op

[old wyvern]

let is OP 😌

[steel heart]

void a() {
  var b = new c() {
    D d;
  };
  System.out.println(b.d);
}```![fingerguns](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/730681133200834592.webp?size=128 "fingerguns")

[quaint isle]

Hey devs, do you know whether it's allowed to submit your Spigot plugin to multiple websites (spigotmc, mc-market, polymart etc.)?
Or is that against their TOS?

[lunar cypress]

against whose tos

[quaint isle]

well I especially care about spigot and mc market 😄

[steel heart]

No it sign

isnt

[ocean quartz]

Lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6Vcfm7TA5U

[steel heart]

[hallow crane]

I saw that

It's funny

When I was a coding noob, I used google sheets as my first RAT database

For logging connections and screenshots taken by it

[cinder flare]

@quiet depot the one time I try to use Stripe the person's credit union gets declined 🥲

[quiet depot]

how u charging them thru stripe?

what stripe feature

[cinder flare]

well i dunno i said pay however much you feel like it's worth and they tried signing up for stripe I guess and got rejected?

i dunno man i just sent them my paypal email lmao

also sorry did I wake you up lmao

[obtuse gale]

I mean it only makes sense, if you end up doing var map = new LinkedHashMap<K, V>(); as a field, map won't be a Map<K, V> (i.e. any kind of Map regardless of impl), it will be only and exclusively LinkedHashMap<K, V>

SOLID go brrrrr

[steel heart]

Cast it

[obtuse gale]

:kekw:

[winter iron]

If i extend an abstract class, there is nothing wrong with passing a value to its constructor too if it has one right?

[ocean quartz]

Yeah I know what you mean, Map.of would do that though
Or var map: Map<K, V> 😌

[obtuse gale]

indeed

[obtuse gale]

Absolutely not

I mean

Yeah it's fine

[winter iron]

it feels weird

and wrong

😦

[ocean quartz]

How so?

[winter iron]

idk

i guess its probs cause i don't normally do it

[steel heart]

I mean why is it abstract then

Feels like a leaky abstraction to some degree imo

Or at least a not powerful enough abstraction

[winter iron]

i have one method that is abstract but i also had properties that were abstract but I wanna move them to constructor since i dont want them to be publicy accessible

private setters

and public getters

[ocean quartz]

🥲

[obtuse gale]

Nerd talking about Development...

[half harness]

wat

[steel heart]

Sensei do what feels best for you 😊

[half harness]

❓

[steel heart]

SyntaxErrror404 dropping da roast

[obtuse gale]

I was hoping to be nerd like everyone here... But it's hard

[steel heart]

Hmm I believe in you

[winter iron]

no one here is a nerd

we are just intellectuals

[steel heart]

[winter iron]

[obtuse gale]

Look like some science labs here... Calculating something

Killed a chat, Very nice of me

[steel heart]

No

But srsly become a developer right now

Be like us

[winter iron]

class Smth(val uuid: UUID)

abstract class Smth2 {
    abstract val uuid: UUID
}

whats the differences between these really

expect the fact one is constructor invocation

is it that Smth2 must be extended?

[steel heart]

Yeah

Unnecessary abstraction also called leaky abstraction

I think at least

[winter iron]

so that would be a case of unnecessary

[obtuse gale]

Leaker Developer

[steel heart]

Yeah cuz in principle that can be achieved by just a normal data class/pojo

Creating powerful abstractions often means that we use polymorphism to its fullest

[obtuse gale]

[cinder flare]

or just have the compiler figure out the type from the first time it's used 😌

[winter iron]

abstract class CountdownRunnable(timeToComplete: Long) : BukkitRunnable() {
    var timeToComplete = timeToComplete
        private set
    var finished = false
        private set

    override fun run() {
        if (timeToComplete <= 1) {
            finished = true

            onComplete()
            cancel()

            return
        }

        timeToComplete--
    }

    fun start(plugin: JavaPlugin) {
        runTaskTimer(plugin, 0L, 20L)
    }

    abstract fun onComplete()
}
``` something like this is fine right since `onComplete` would be different depending on use cases?

[steel heart]

I mean you could use a () -> Unit function type and pass that as a callback object

But that’s fine I guess

[winter iron]

that was my other option but I would prefer if it was extended anyways i think

it just seems more correct

[steel heart]

👍

[obtuse gale]

Well the first time it's used is when you assign it a value lol

[winter iron]

I guess it also means that my code is forced to be a bit more coherent

[cinder flare]

yes exactly

so why can't it figure that out hmm

[obtuse gale]

I mean that's what it does

[cinder flare]

java bad kotlin good

[obtuse gale]

So it makes it a LinkedHashMap

[steel heart]

Cohesion feels like a vague sense here SenseiJu

I mean people define what cohesion is quite differently

[winter iron]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[steel heart]

Anyways I have spoken (:

https://tenor.com/view/kuill-the-mandalorian-i-have-spoken-nod-gif-15568954

[winter iron]

I think ill stick with the abstraction, just seems it would be clearer if alot is happening inside that method rather than using a callback

appreciate the input

[steel heart]

Sure

The choice between the 2 designs can be a hard decision so I don’t blame you

[winter iron]

I guess it comes down to preference

[steel heart]

Yeah in most cases probably

Eventually convenience comes in to play

[old wyvern]

Oh no...

css comes back with its annoyances again

but this time

in jfx

actually wait no

I guess this isnt a css issue

[half harness]

https://i.imgur.com/Us4MayE.png
o

you can never escape fefo

[cinder flare]

hey so do you need kotlin to use gradle KTS

because I'm getting this error on my CI

AILURE: Build failed with an exception.

* Where:
Build file '/tmp/build/80754af9/bungeeadmintools-git/build.gradle.kts' line: 46

* What went wrong:
Script compilation error:

  Line 46:                         file.inputStream().use { translationFile -> translationFile.transferTo(zip) }
                                                                                               ^ Unresolved reference: transferTo

1 error

* Try:
Run with --stacktrace option to get the stack trace. Run with --info or --debug option to get more log output. Run with --scan to get full insights.

* Get more help at https://help.gradle.org

BUILD FAILED in 50s```

but it works on my computer soooo

[obtuse gale]

./gradlew --version

[cinder flare]

... Running build
Downloading https://services.gradle.org/distributions/gradle-7.1-bin.zip
..........10%...........20%...........30%..........40%...........50%...........60%..........70%...........80%...........90%...........100%

Welcome to Gradle 7.1!

Here are the highlights of this release:
 - Faster incremental Java compilation
 - Easier source set configuration in the Kotlin DSL

For more details see https://docs.gradle.org/7.1/release-notes.html

Starting a Gradle Daemon (subsequent builds will be faster)

> Configure project :
e: /tmp/build/80754af9/bungeeadmintools-git/build.gradle.kts:46:85: Unresolved reference: transferTo

[obtuse gale]

The ci runs ./gradlew ... right?

[cinder flare]

yes

though I don't know what version of java it is

and doing java --version killed it lmao

 ... Running build
Unrecognized option: --version
Error: Could not create the Java Virtual Machine.
Error: A fatal exception has occurred. Program will exit.```

[obtuse gale]

Hm

Lol

I think gradle 7 must run on Java 16

[cinder flare]

yeah well

      image_resource:
        name: ""
        source:
          repository: java
          tag: latest
        type: docker-image```

that's my config file

so uh, I don't even know where that comes from

[obtuse gale]

Lmao

[cinder flare]

like this is so poorly documented

i can't figure out where I find image resources

okay wait I think it might be from docker hub

[old wyvern]

You're probably on java 8

[cinder flare]

yeah well they shouldn't have called it latest then huh

[old wyvern]

Try java -version instead of java --version

[cinder flare]

well hold on I might've figured it out

I think it gets it from docker hub and I'm seeing what versions they have available

[obtuse gale]

"not-16-lmao"

[cinder flare]

seriously

inb4 "latest" equals 8

[obtuse gale]

Hahahha

Not even latest lts

Latest according to java.com 😂

[cinder flare]

awe yeah b oys

java 16 it is

also shoutout to Yugi for the java -version

[old wyvern]

💯

[obtuse gale]

Huh

Always been --version for me

[cinder flare]

uh mkdir -f?

what the -f do

[old wyvern]

The --version one should exist from 9 and above

I gave the -version one in case it was 8

But welp 🤷

[obtuse gale]

Ah lmao that explains it

[cinder flare]

ahhh

okay now to figure out how to get it to output the built jar and have it for download

https://github.com/concourse/concourse/issues/1232

okay whelp

time to setup reposilite lmao

[cinder flare]

boys it's all coming together

[ocean quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-its-all-coming-together-gif-15058130

[cinder flare]

i just had to erase everything certbot did and let it redo itself

[cinder flare]

now i just gotta figure out how to publish my builds with gradle

[frail glade]

maven-publish plugin.

[cinder flare]

even you have it commented out though!

[frail glade]

That's cause I was too lazy to properly only enable it for system variables.

And I don't do an API release every time I deploy an update to SpigotMC.

Only when I make API changes.

[cinder flare]

Hmm well, my CI doesn't provide build artifacts

So every change I make needs to be somewhere to download, right?

[frail glade]

Hmm?

[cinder flare]

Concourse CI

doesn't let you download build artifacts like the way Jenkins does

[frail glade]

Ahh yeah.

[cinder flare]

but I would like a convenient place to download any builds I make

[frail glade]

You could apply for https://ci.codemc.io/

[cinder flare]

what

why would I do that

[frail glade]

So you could publish your builds somewhere?

[cinder flare]

I setup a Reposilite?

[frail glade]

I mean that's for a maven repository.

[cinder flare]

Also for downloading, right?

I mean, should I not use Concourse

[frail glade]

I have no idea what that is tbh.

[cinder flare]

I think their setup is very pretty and I like a lot about it but it doesn't provide build artifacts for some reason

[frail glade]

Build artifacts aren't necessarily maven artifacts.

Take LuckPerms for an example.

The API is separated from the actual project.

The API is deployed to a maven repo while you can download a copy of it on SpigotMC.

That's a bad example but hopefully the point got across.

[half harness]

maven central 😎

[cinder flare]

But is there anything stopping me from just deploying every build to my reposilite and using it to download and stuff? like for dev builds in a different branch

[frail glade]

No not really.

[cinder flare]

okay cool

[ocean quartz]

@obtuse gale Actually looks nice this way 😮

[obtuse gale]

yo i like that i like that

[ocean quartz]

Writing the processor for it now
scared of the parser 😫

[obtuse gale]

lol gl

[quiet depot]

@cinder flare that’s not how it works

u don’t pay people using stripe

the buyers don’t have a stripe account

they just use their credit card or bank or whatever

look into stripe checkout

[cinder flare]

see that's what I thought but I didn't care enough to explain that to them

[rotund egret]

Usually what I do is commit small changes, until I push to my github repo, and then I push to reposilite at the same time.

[obtuse gale]

why deluxe menus not working is asking ''is that update ?''

its up to date downloaded form spigot site

#general-plugins

[obtuse gale]

Anybody here familiar with context digrams and how I can fix this one up, unsure what the connection from User Data File -> Game should be , and Game -> Player, the idea of the game is somewhat similar to like snake or something, but basically once you win your high score is saved in a file, and is also retreived when nceessary

[proven forge]

where can I find how I can get the amount of items in a custom created inventory in place 1 example

[prisma wave]

Inventory#get(int)#getAmount ?

😌

[proven forge]

what does the int meaning

[sly sonnet]

slot

slot of the item in your inventory

[proven forge]

does this also work for a custom inventory?

[sly sonnet]

yes

[prisma wave]

Inventory is Inventory

[proven forge]

okey thanks 🙂

[cinder flare]

Math is Math

[rotund egret]

Well, except for those times it isn't

[oblique heath]

hype

https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2021/05/amazon-elastic-container-service-anywhere-is-now-generally-available/

[cinder flare]

sounds like docker but you pay amazon

[distant sun]

How can this plugin support modded items with this https://github.com/ConnorLinfoot/CratesPlus/blob/master/src/main/java/plus/crates/Crates/Winning.java#L58-L59? It is weird but someone showed me a picture of a crate that has modded items in it xd

d;spigot material#getmaterial

[ruby crater]

org.bukkit.Material#getMaterial

@Nullable
public static Material getMaterial(@NotNull String name)```

Description:

Attempts to get the Material with the given name.

This is a normal lookup, names must be the precise name they are given in the enum.

Returns:

Material if found, or null

Parameters:

name - Name of the material to get

Page 0 • Requested by: GabyTM | RO • spigot

[cinder flare]

maybe the mods override spigot's getmaterial to add their items to it

[distant sun]

That would be something tbh

[cinder flare]

or append to the material enum

[distant sun]

Only if spigot had a way to get the item by its key

[old wyvern]

^

[distant sun]

Interesting

[cinder flare]

alright so concourse looks pretty

but it does not fit my needs

is jenkinsx any good?

[quiet depot]

what’s jenkinsx

is it just normal jenkins but with an x

[old wyvern]

😌

[cinder flare]

apparently it's based on kubernetes instead of docker

and we're a docker household here so gotta find something new

specifically one that provides build artifacts to download 😠

[proven forge]

how can I change the basic spigot unknowncommand message in code?

[cinder flare]

in the lang file

also #general-plugins

[distant sun]

spigot.yml

@cinder flare in code

[cinder flare]

ah yes, forgot spigot has no lang file

[proven forge]

but do you maybe have a source where i can find this?

[cinder flare]

messages:
  whitelist: You are not whitelisted on this server!
  unknown-command: Unknown command. Type "/help" for help.
  server-full: The server is full!
  outdated-client: Outdated client! Please use {0}
  outdated-server: Outdated server! I'm still on {0}
  restart: Server is restarting```

line 35 of spigot.yml bro

[proven forge]

yes I know but can i change this in code of my plugin instead of in the spigot.yml

[cinder flare]

uh, you can't

unless you do some weird modification of the spigot.yml file

[proven forge]

ah okey

[cinder flare]

bro wtf, why do none of the CI/CD systems besides Jenkins store the artifacts

[quaint isle]

Don't most of them do that? At least CircleCI and github actions are definitely capable of that 🤔

[cinder flare]

Jenkins is the only self-hosted open source one that does it

all the others I've seen are docker-based, so they don't store state anywhere

so you gotta put artifacts in a repository or suttin which I am now okay with, the problem is passing my repository credentials

[prisma wave]

Just use environment variables

[cinder flare]

trust me I have tried

docker complicates things significantly

[prisma wave]

Just deploy the docker images 😌

[distant sun]

Is circleci any good?

[cinder flare]

i mean meh

i currently like concourse a lot for what it offers

go jenkins if you want the classic

oh that advice I just sent is for self-hosting

[distant sun]

I just want something for dev builds

[cinder flare]

i mean then yeah jenkins or circle ci or even github actions will be what you want for easy setup

[distant sun]

I already have github actions setup but for some reason the artifacts aren't available to everyone

[tired pumice]

#general-plugins help please 😄

[cinder flare]

https://i.imgur.com/SYaxJ8e.png

i am going to commit bathtub toaster

i literally spawned 3 workers for this bad boy

[tired pumice]

Star

#general-plugins help please :9

[cinder flare]

i stg

do not ask for help in non-support channels

that's the fastest way to get nobody to help you

[static zealot]

also you have to understand that we might not be familiar with some plugins. You have to wait for someone that is familiar with it

[tired pumice]

Need urgent help but

[static zealot]

well our knowledge won't just grow bcz you need urgent help... you can do the same thing we can. Go to their documentation and check.

[rotund egret]

@cinder flare
Tamcity does but it's a PITA to setup

[boreal needle]

tc is easy if you use docker

[eternal compass]

uuh star, plugin.yml files have custom no permissions messages

lol

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/plugin-yml/#commands permission-message

@proven forge

[distant sun]

nobody uses that

[sly sonnet]

i didn't even know that thing exists

[prisma wave]

because ther s no reason to use it

Just send the messages yourself

[sly sonnet]

Yeah, i was doing that

I love freedom

[eternal compass]

The person asked how 🙃

[rotund egret]

If I'm being honest I didnt know what I was doing and tried doing it on a .dev site.

Had a very difficult time getting a cert for a site you cant launch without a cert.

[boreal needle]

could you not use a dns based challenge

[rotund egret]

Again, didnt know what I was doing

[small walrus]

What is the best bungee + servers hosting rn?

[sly sonnet]

Dedicated server + pterodactyl panel

or a vps if you have a small network

[jovial warren]

anyone here wanna gimme a hand designing Krypton's AI goal and pathfinding API?

[native marsh]

uhh can someone help me with a issue? I will dm you the video to show what's not working 😓

[half harness]

what issue?

[native marsh]

a compiler error I can't figure out

[half harness]

plugins: #general-plugins or #general-plugins-2
coding: #development
minecraft: #minecraft

ask in #development

[native marsh]

ye no attachment perms

[half harness]

?imgur

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

You won't be able to upload images here directly to avoid spam, so please use https://imgur.com/ to upload images/screenshots.
You can also use a screenshot service like gyazo or jinx and post those links here.

Requested by: dkim19375 • imgur

[obtuse gale]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-square-pants-i-dont-really-feel-like-it-sleeping-sleep-no-thanks-gif-5384362

[forest pecan]

very funny

who likes desinging an ai api anyways

[static zealot]

@half harness I summon you

[static zealot]

you're to busy for me nowadays. smh. dkim I want to break up with you now

[sly sonnet]

sheeeesh

[half harness]

o

[white arrow]

Just curious how do I setup a cog and name it using python and discord.py

[cinder flare]

#development

[white arrow]

Oh oops

I didnt realize

[static zealot]

Yo how do I get the java 16 image on ptero?
I've tried docker pull quay.io/parkervcp/pterodactyl-images:debian_openjdk-16 and it said it pulled but I can't select it in my panel. Do I need to restart the wings or something?

[ocean quartz]

It should be provided by default on latest update no?

[rotund egret]

Pretty sure any time you add anything you need to restart wings

[static zealot]

ugh I am on the latest rn but its not there

I Just updated

already restarted since I Updated after I downloaded

but yeah

it still doesn't show up

[sly sonnet]

try restarting panel

might be some glitch

[static zealot]

is that just systemctl restart panel ?

[sly sonnet]

i don't really remember, but you could try nginx

panel should be it

[static zealot]

you can't restart panel. you'd have to restart the webserver. I had to go into settings > nests > Minecraft Nest > Paper Egg and add the version there

seems to work

[sly sonnet]

ahh, ok. Haven' t really used it in a while

[static zealot]

asked in ptero discord btw xD

I Forgot ... that's a thing

even tho I saw the download command

there

so yeah

that's me

[obtuse gale]

okay this whole "Duplicate lines" warning is complete bullshit

what the fuck

????????????

[dense dew]

xd

[prisma wave]

xdd*

[half harness]

xddd*

[sly sonnet]

xdddd*

[errant geyser]

Anyone got a decent way to copy everything important from a VPS

Going through it all manually with SFTP is going to suck

[cinder flare]

Zip, download, upload, unzip?

[errant geyser]

Yeah dw I'm just an idiot

I realised I have very little data I care about on it

[cinder flare]

haha

see that's the best part of docker

i can just delete entire services if I feel like it and remake them instantly

very convenient

[errant geyser]

Yeah well I'm like, moving actual VPSs

[prisma wave]

tar 😌

[cinder flare]

tar and gzip

[prisma wave]

i saw some other algorithm a while ago that was supposed to be better than both combined

cant remember what it was called now

i think some facebook researcher made it

[ocean quartz]

rar :kek:

[lunar cypress]

My 11th grade computer science teacher wasn't great at explaining nor an expert on a lot of the things he was teaching, but one thing he did right was scolding me for handing in a .rar file for an assignment

[prisma wave]

lmao

[cinder flare]

poor winrar

[lunar cypress]

he got real mad and I will remember that

[prisma wave]

winrar deserves it

[obtuse gale]

lmao

[ocean quartz]

Got scolded for handing in a rar as well lmao

[cinder flare]

winrar has a nostalgia factor, similar to the 80s

[prisma wave]

downloading virus minecraft mods for 1.7.10 😌

the good old days

trying to figure out why i couldnt run modpacks on my 2gb ram pc

[cinder flare]

no dude, it's installing mods by opening minecraft.jar and putting the class files in manually

[prisma wave]

hjfwoijfwoijfwf

OOOO

"ok so go to percent appdata percent"

[cinder flare]

back in the days of Better Than Wolves and TMI

[lunar cypress]

Downloading mods and your PC suddenly getting slow

[cinder flare]

YES

[lunar cypress]

And next time you open your browser it's so colourful

[prisma wave]

😌

[lunar cypress]

The yahoo menu bar and everything

[prisma wave]

ahahaahahah

[cinder flare]

https://i.imgur.com/K2fAgsN.png

11 hours

how many workers do i fucking need

[lunar cypress]

The workers are on strike

[cinder flare]

I have 3 workers!

[prisma wave]

maybe if you [haskell joke] it would be better

[cinder flare]

and if anything, the one that just did the gradle should be doing this one

[lunar cypress]

They demand better star

[cinder flare]

damn

stupid unions

[prisma wave]

not based

[cinder flare]

i am this close to installing jenkins

maybe they have some documentation

[prisma wave]

some of the haskell unsafe stuff is so weird

there's an entire module called GHC.Magic

[cinder flare]

sounds like a fancy version of sun.misc.unsafe

[prisma wave]

yeah pretty much

there's System.IO.Unsafe too which is very similar

[obtuse gale]

that looks like a c# namespace lol

[prisma wave]

and Unsafe.Coerce which allows you to do type coercion like casting c pointers 🥴

[cinder flare]

I'm sorry that you're familiar enough with C# to recognize that

[obtuse gale]

😔

[cinder flare]

(void*)

types can be anything I want

[prisma wave]

yeah exactly the same idea

incredibly evil

oh that's kinda cool

[cinder flare]

oooh .toCharArray and all that

[prisma wave]

yea

ooh you can crash it by coercing a string to an arbitary length integer

oh no

90% cpu usage

help

[cinder flare]

when they said unsafe, they meant unsafe for your life, not unsafe for the language's safety features

[prisma wave]

presumably both

coercing things to functions causes a segfault

this is weird

returns something different every time

i guess that's a pointer or something?

[cinder flare]

probably a memory address yea

dude segfaults in Haskell

now that is something I never thought i'd see

[prisma wave]

😌

funnily enough the "unsafe" packages are very good at segfaulting things

you can crash the jvm in like 2 lines as well

[cinder flare]

with great power comes great responsibility

[prisma wave]

now this is odd

coercing lambdas always returns 256

whereas converting a named function seems to return the memory address again

[outer yarrow]

@obtuse gale Can you accept me? Have to talk with you 😦

[winter iron]

https://github.com/SenseiJu/Sentils 🤙
My first likkle library 🙂

[cinder flare]

what it do

[half harness]

It's a semi-useful Kotlin library for Spigot that nobody asked for!

:)

uh oh

i spy a !!

‼️

[ocean quartz]

👀

[half harness]

👀 👀

woah

first time i've seen this

uhhhhhhhhh

[onyx loom]

a kotlin library throwing NPE instead of KNPE 😌

[ocean quartz]

Evil

[forest pecan]

‘throw new ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException’

[ocean quartz]

Pretty cool though! ;p

[winter iron]

Hopefully it never reaches the point that it even throws since PlayerInventory is for a player and location shouldnt be null 🙂

[forest pecan]

Also why underscore in package name tho lol

[half harness]

should be throwing IllegalArgumentException or something like that

[winter iron]

i didnt know what else to put

😦

[half harness]

datastoragestorage

[ocean quartz]

I'd just call it storage

[half harness]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[winter iron]

🤦‍♂️

ofc

lmao

[onyx loom]

oh yeah that package name was questionable

[winter iron]

i must be high

[onyx loom]

also could avoid having to use !! in the CooldownManager class, i believe it was the isOnCooldown function

[forest pecan]

He just likes factorial

Don’t question him

[half harness]

oh btw sorry for da bully, but don't commit .idea folder, or add ```

User-specific stuff:

.idea/workspace.xml
.idea/tasks.xml
.idea/dictionaries
.idea/vcs.xml
.idea/jsLibraryMappings.xml

Sensitive or high-churn files:

.idea/dataSources.ids
.idea/dataSources.xml
.idea/dataSources.local.xml
.idea/sqlDataSources.xml
.idea/dynamic.xml
.idea/uiDesigner.xml

Gradle:

.idea/gradle.xml
.idea/libraries

Mongo Explorer plugin:

.idea/mongoSettings.xml

File-based project format:

*.iws

[onyx loom]

ik it wouldnt ever get to that point, but better to stay away from all evil 🙂

[winter iron]

it didnt like it

[half harness]

you can use ?

instead of !!

? = run only if not null

[winter iron]

i do the containskey