#dev-general | HelpChat | Page 529

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:14 AM

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migration from maven remains

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gradle init does that

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:15 AM

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but I will take note of that

frail glade Jun 19, 2021, 5:15 AM

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Yatopia just shut down.

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EYES

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:15 AM

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lol

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:16 AM

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like the paper fork?

ocean quartz Jun 19, 2021, 5:16 AM

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Lmao really

frail glade Jun 19, 2021, 5:16 AM

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Yes.

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:16 AM

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star if you need dependencies that aren't on a repo you always use a flat file repo

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maven local is just a pain

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:16 AM

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quiet depot star if you need dependencies that aren't on a repo you always use a flat file r...

bro I didn't do that man it just happened

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:16 AM

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no ik it's just for future reference

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because you said i'll take that in note

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:16 AM

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oh ic ic

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:16 AM

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so might aswell tell you the right way to do it

frail glade Jun 19, 2021, 5:16 AM

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cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:17 AM

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that guy should work towards Paper

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:17 AM

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wooooooooooooooooow

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:17 AM

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and not some weird fork that causes compatability issues

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:17 AM

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uh

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star

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i just made it build

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:17 AM

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what how

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:17 AM

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something with these

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bets are on minimizing

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something i never ever do

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:18 AM

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yeah same

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I've never used minimize jar

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:18 AM

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oh it was on in the maven thing so it just converted it

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i dunno

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:18 AM

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I just exclude dependencies manually and it gets the same size as minimize jar

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:18 AM

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so the part of shadowJar that does minimizing is the one that uses that out of date dependency

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:18 AM

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might want to comment that on the issue

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:18 AM

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yea seriously

ocean quartz Jun 19, 2021, 5:19 AM

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frail glade

Tbh i understand him, it's pretty rough

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:19 AM

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OMG IT WAS

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:19 AM

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mhmmmm

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:19 AM

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ugh now I have to setup a test environment for bungee

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:20 AM

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lmao

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:20 AM

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i wanna go back to it not compiling 🥲

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:20 AM

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So ez

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:20 AM

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fuck

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:20 AM

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Have you never setup bungee?

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:20 AM

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actually somehow I have not

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someone should make a docker image for me

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:20 AM

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i hate windows

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It’s whatever, it’s not as tricky as you would think

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:21 AM

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well I mean I have networking experience so I'm sure it's not bad

ocean quartz Jun 19, 2021, 5:21 AM

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Gotta love having 3 servers, 2 Minecrafts and IJ running at the same time to test bungee

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:21 AM

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i have guide on helpchat wiki on setting up things in ij

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:21 AM

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yeah exactly

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:21 AM

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hope u have a lot of ram star

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:21 AM

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quiet depot i have guide on helpchat wiki on setting up things in ij

for bungee?

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16GB 🥲

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:21 AM

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What does networking have to do with setting up bungee?

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:21 AM

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anything

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:21 AM

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it's literally a proxy

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:21 AM

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for setting up anything star

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:21 AM

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Yea but like

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Having networking knowledge isn’t gonna make it setup any easier it’s so straight forward

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:21 AM

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I mean the firewall part

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:22 AM

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Knowing how sockets work won’t make bungee easy lol

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:22 AM

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though I guess no firewall in my own computer

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:22 AM

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what do you need a firewall for it's localhost

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:22 AM

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yeaaaa

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:22 AM

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Just download a bungee jar and run it then try and see what’s happening in the config

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And just play with your ports gg you have bungee

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:23 AM

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ah okie

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do I have to buildtools this bitch

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:23 AM

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no

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:23 AM

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or do we have extendedclip.com/bungee

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lol

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:23 AM

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Nah you don’t what version?

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:23 AM

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uh 1.17 prefereably

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:23 AM

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wym what version

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bungee supports 1.8+

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:23 AM

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did 1.17 not change anything

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:24 AM

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probably did but you just use the latest of bungee

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regardless of mc version

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:24 AM

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Well how was I suppose to know what version

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:24 AM

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oh okay

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:24 AM

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Cuz there’s still tons of 1.7 going on.

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:24 AM

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damn this bitch 14MB

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ew wtf

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i'm not backporting this plugin lmao

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:24 AM

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What? Why

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:25 AM

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no one lieks 1.7

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:25 AM

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Would you need to

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:25 AM

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people are fucking weird man i dunno

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:25 AM

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All I was saying is you could have been on 1.7

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:25 AM

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hmm

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:26 AM

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Everyone who pvps definitely likes 1.7 haha

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Or 1.8 pretty much same shit.

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:27 AM

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woah is it already up

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it took like .5 seconds

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wow there is not a lot of setup

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:29 AM

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Lol told you, you just need to change ports enable ip forwarding or whatever

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:29 AM

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nah it's all on the same pc I don't gotta do nothin

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besides watch my computer grind to a halt as I have 2 servers, chrome, IJ, and a minecraft instance running

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:30 AM

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are you running it in ij

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:30 AM

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no

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:30 AM

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smh

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literally killing your productivity

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:30 AM

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Why don’t you test from inside your ide

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:30 AM

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dude i have never done this before

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:31 AM

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there are guides for setting up servers in ij on helpchat wiki

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:31 AM

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It’s simple star

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:31 AM

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yea yea who cares

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:31 AM

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u should

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:31 AM

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You just edit configurations

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:31 AM

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big productivity boost

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:31 AM

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Then add a jar application

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:31 AM

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did u sign up for stripe?

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:31 AM

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not yet i got sidetracked

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:31 AM

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What’s stripe

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:31 AM

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Caused by: java.security.cert.CertificateException: No subject alternative DNS name matching tnemc.net found.

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:31 AM

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selling platform thing

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:31 AM

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I don't think the new economy is having a good time

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:32 AM

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accepts money

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like paypal

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:32 AM

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Ah for like plugins

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Well anything I guess

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:32 AM

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well not really for plugins in particular

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it's just an alternative to paypal

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:32 AM

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Oh I see

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:32 AM

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with more lax rules in some areas

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:33 AM

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Anyways @cinder flare you’re using gradle right?

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:33 AM

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ofc

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:34 AM

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You can automate everything easily then, move your server and bungee folders into your project

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:34 AM

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okay boys, i've setup bungeecord successfully

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:34 AM

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yeah my plugins and shit go right into my test servers

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:34 AM

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Yea it’s amazing

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:34 AM

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then got keybinds to start the server

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and hotswap code

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:34 AM

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Idk why people don’t local :3 some would rather use like vps and shit

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:34 AM

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problem is size

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when you've got over 100 projects, each sometimes having multiple test servers

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adds up

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:35 AM

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yea plus I want to setup jenkins and have a cool CI system

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:35 AM

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Oh yea it’ll fill up my disk

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:35 AM

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I think my github folder is like 60gb

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:35 AM

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I pretty much just live with a full disk noe and delete somethjng whenever I need to install something lol.

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:36 AM

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obtuse gale Idk why people don’t local :3 some would rather use like vps and shit

my friend used to use a dedi for this stuff

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mainly because the dedi was more powerful than his pc, and latency wasn't an issue

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:36 AM

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how tf do I shut down my bungeecord

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:36 AM

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end

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:36 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/ySF8BAF.png

Imgur

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why

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:36 AM

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end

frail glade Jun 19, 2021, 5:36 AM

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Every few months I zip my IJ folder, maven, and gradle and then wipe it and start over.

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:37 AM

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Tbh that’s what I should do too.

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I’ve only had my pc for a couple months tho and I’ve already filled a tb ssd

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:37 AM

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i need to wipe my vps

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:37 AM

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wait do you need path annotations for every single entry in MF-CFG

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:37 AM

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it's on 16.04 ubuntu and has an uptime of over a year

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:37 AM

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does it not put no path as the highest level by default

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:38 AM

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quiet depot mainly because the dedi was more powerful than his pc, and latency wasn't an iss...

I mean I understand when it’s for like big testing and something that’s performance related but for shit like simply testing If something in your plugin works. And making the whole plugin there first it’s 10x better to do it local for times sake

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:38 AM

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well there's also the benefit that you can move computer seamlessly

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iirc he had a desktop installed on the dedi and would just vnc in from anywhere

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:39 AM

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That’s pretty cool, I’ve never thought bout that lol

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:40 AM

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wait wait you really do have to specify path on every entry

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are you kidding me

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:41 AM

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wanna see what my config looks like

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https://github.com/PiggyPiglet/DocDex/blob/master/app/src/main/java/me/piggypiglet/docdex/config/Config.java

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that's it

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make that file then I can inject that class anywhere with the values populated

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:41 AM

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well maybe I can move to that once everything works

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right now I'm doing the bare minimum transition

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me.mattstudios.config.exception.ConfigMeException: Path at '' already exists

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okay what the fuck

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:48 AM

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this is so bad

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:48 AM

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fart smella 100%

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:48 AM

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kinky

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 5:49 AM

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I'm who are you

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:50 AM

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No, you're brister mitten

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 5:50 AM

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No I'm not

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:50 AM

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Yes you are

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 5:50 AM

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That is fake and biased news

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:50 AM

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yeah I was gonna sa y

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:50 AM

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You are Brister Mitten

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Facts don't care about your feelings

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 5:50 AM

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The MAINSTREAM media doesn't want to see buff richard nixon succeed

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:50 AM

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man if only I could leave a tmux of my terminals running on my own pc so I could shut it down and resume it later

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 5:50 AM

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lmao

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 5:50 AM

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they are SCARED

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:53 AM

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u can run tmux on windows

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git bash has it

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:53 AM

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yeah but it won't persist upon shutdown lmao

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i'm using WSL i know i can

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the joke is that my work setup persists my tmux because it's on the dev box

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but this is on my own box 🥲

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:53 AM

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what u need tmux for anyway

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running servers?

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that's what ij is for

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:53 AM

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no bad

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:54 AM

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u should take my advice boi

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:54 AM

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maybe if it were easy to setup

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:54 AM

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it is easy

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:54 AM

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i haven't seen any guides just angry comments

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:54 AM

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it's like 5 buttons

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https://wiki.helpch.at/piggys-barn/java/how-to-run-your-minecraft-server-s-in-intellij

How to run your minecraft server(s) in IntelliJ

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:55 AM

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mmm 1.15.2

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:55 AM

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1.15.2 the latest version of minecraft

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 5:55 AM

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quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:55 AM

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top guy is familiar

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don't know wher eit's from

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bottom left no clue

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 5:55 AM

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eit ?

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:55 AM

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definitely know bottom right

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 5:55 AM

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bottom left is toy story 2

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:56 AM

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what's eit

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 5:56 AM

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top one is the dad from inside out

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 5:56 AM

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oh my typo

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:56 AM

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bottom right is ratatoilliue

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or however you spell it

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 5:56 AM

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ratatouille

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:57 AM

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bottom left has nedry from jurassic park vibes

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 5:57 AM

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https://c.tenor.com/NmOPodB3j9sAAAAM/al-toystory-chicken-al.gif

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:58 AM

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prisma wave

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look at these pictures side by side

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 5:58 AM

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Identical

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https://c.tenor.com/vuOxR5tQg5IAAAAM/toy-story-toy-story2.gif

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:00 AM

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quiet depot it's like 5 buttons

how do I run bungeecord and spigot tho

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that's not explained in your little guide

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 6:03 AM

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ratatoilliue lmao

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:03 AM

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cinder flare how do I run bungeecord and spigot tho

you'd just make two run configurations instead of 1

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and instead of running spigot in the second

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u run bungee

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:04 AM

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how do I run them both at the same time eh?

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:04 AM

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u click the start on one

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then go to the other

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and click start

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or setup keybinds like me

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:04 AM

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at that point it's just as easy to type ./start.sh

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and then I get easy access to the console on my other monitor too

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:04 AM

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you don't get any debugging capabilities with that

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you can easily detach the console from intellij to put on your other monitor

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:05 AM

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i don't need debugging capabilities

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:05 AM

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then you're doing it wrong bruh

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:05 AM

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bruh what would I need debugging for

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:05 AM

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debugging

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:05 AM

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i've managed my whole life without it for mc so far

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usually error messages are good enough

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:05 AM

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your productivity would go up with proper debugging tools

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:05 AM

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would it

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:05 AM

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yes

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by a significant margin

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people don't make fancy dev tools for no reason

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:06 AM

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I don't think I've encountered many bugs that would be better fixed with them

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:06 AM

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they make them because they greatly improve productivity

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:06 AM

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i mean print statements are just fine for me

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and it sounds spooky running debugging stuff and breakpoints on a server

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:06 AM

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that's a really lame excuse

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:06 AM

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alright well

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where do I learn such mystical debugging tools

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you got another shitty wiki page for me

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:07 AM

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well there's a hotswapping guide

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:07 AM

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doesn't that not work with java 16

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:07 AM

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for break points there's a button next to errors in console to "create breakpoint"

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or u can select a line to break on by clicking next to the line number

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:07 AM

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yeah I've used breakpoints but like, they've never actually been very useful

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:08 AM

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yeah honestly I don't use breakpoints either

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:08 AM

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it just kinda confuses me lol

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:08 AM

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mainly hotswapping

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:08 AM

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doesn't that not work on java 16 tho

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:08 AM

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I mean the jvm has a limited form of hotswapping by default

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so you can hotswap

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just not much

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:08 AM

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yeah doesn't sound too useful

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any other mystical debugging features?

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:08 AM

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can jump to lines

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:09 AM

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like in spigot?

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:09 AM

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spigot or your own code

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:09 AM

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when would I want to do that

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that sounds dangerous

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:09 AM

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what the fuck

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:09 AM

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and like how you make race conditions

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:09 AM

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no

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you're not understanding

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it's a hyperlink to the line in code that's causing the issue

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u click a class name or method in the error and it takes u to the cause

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:09 AM

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oh I thought you meant like a GOTO

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:09 AM

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Code evaluation is very underrated for debugging too

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:10 AM

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quiet depot u click a class name or method in the error and it takes u to the cause

I mean that just sounds like reading a stacktrace but slightly quicker

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:10 AM

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prisma wave Code evaluation is very underrated for debugging too

whats dat

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:10 AM

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star what did you expect

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quicker is the point

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:10 AM

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I thought this was gonna be good shit

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you were hyping this up

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this is like barely anything

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:10 AM

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well breakpoints & hotswapping are good shit

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you just don't know how to use them effectively

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:10 AM

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hotswapping ain't work

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:10 AM

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well not on 16

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:10 AM

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and even you admitted breakpoints suck

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:11 AM

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cinder flare whats dat

basically you can run code in the IDE but with the "context" of being inside your plugin. So like a unit test but all the variables and things are in the same state as they are in the running application

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:11 AM

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I just don't know how to use them effectively either

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never said they suck

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:11 AM

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Fun fact IntelliJ actually bundles a (its own I think?) java interpreter just for that afaik

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:11 AM

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I can't even think of when I would use them, like there is very few times where I want to stop my program and examine its state

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:11 AM

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usually every error you encounter

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:11 AM

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prisma wave basically you can run code in the IDE but with the "context" of being inside you...

so like a REPL but while your thing is running?

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:12 AM

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Every time you write a print, you could debug instead

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:12 AM

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quiet depot usually every error you encounter

99% of errors I encounter I read the stacktrace then stare at the program for a few minutes before realizing the problem

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:12 AM

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cinder flare so like a REPL but while your thing is running?

Yes

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:12 AM

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few minutes

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:12 AM

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prisma wave Every time you write a print, you could debug instead

i mean I guess that sounds harder though

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:12 AM

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-> 1 second

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:12 AM

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looking at a breakpoint would not solve most of my errors

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:12 AM

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it's not harder it's 1 button click

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:12 AM

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and not that quickly

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:13 AM

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Prints are sometimes more convenient for really simple things but breakpoints are absolutely worth it for a more complex error

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saves you a significant amount of time

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:13 AM

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hmm okay I see

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:13 AM

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just try it out star

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even without debugging features it's so much more convenient to run servers & programs in ij

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:13 AM

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it's kinda scary tho

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:13 AM

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again with the lame excuse

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:13 AM

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why do you think I've never done it before

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:13 AM

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there's nothing scary about it

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it's not a horror movie

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:13 AM

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i mean it's lame but it's true

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i don't know what it's doing

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i don't know how to use it

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:13 AM

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it's executing a command to run your server

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 6:13 AM

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I mean what's the worst thing that could happen

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:13 AM

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i mean the breakpoints thing

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:14 AM

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literally nothing bad could happen

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:14 AM

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i dunno man im tired okay

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im gonna go sleepy

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 6:14 AM

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Cya

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:14 AM

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and tomorrow im gonna setup debugging, stripe, jenkins, and reposilite

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and possibly design a website for myself

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:14 AM

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star i've seen your design skills

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hire cube

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 6:15 AM

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🥲

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:15 AM

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hiring cube is definitely the play

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Unless you're poor

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:15 AM

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i don't care that much though

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i kinda wanna steal the gradle stacktrace design

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:15 AM

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then why did you ask for my opinion on domains the other day

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or did you not ask and I just gave my opinion

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i can't remember

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:16 AM

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i think i was just sad about no starmi.sm

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but yeah I don't care that much what it looks like

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:16 AM

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you should

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sites r important imo

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:16 AM

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i mean i guess

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how often do I go to piggypiglet.me or whatever

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:16 AM

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probably never

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:17 AM

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yea exactly

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:17 AM

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it's not for you

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it's for potential clients

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:17 AM

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yeah but who's gonna hire me

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i don't even know how to use a debugger

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🥲

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:18 AM

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they don't need to know that

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:18 AM

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I got my first commission basically when I started learning java

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 6:18 AM

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Star needs a big hug

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:18 AM

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i've been through the ringer today bois

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:18 AM

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Use it once and then say you're "familiar with the debugger" then just pray nobody ever asks you to use it

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:18 AM

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i think gradle not compiling my plugin took like 5 years off of my life from stress

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:19 AM

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don't get stressed over stupid things then

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:19 AM

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easier said than done smh

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:19 AM

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doubt

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:19 AM

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bro

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:19 AM

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i'm messing idk what it's like for u

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:19 AM

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yeah me neither honestly

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:20 AM

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all i know is that uni is teaching you all the wrong things apparently

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:20 AM

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i know of a different build tool that doesn't cause stress 😌

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:20 AM

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haskell causes eye stress

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:20 AM

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i mean so far in uni I've taken intro to java, object-oriented programming, and DS&A

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:20 AM

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quiet depot all i know is that uni is teaching you all the wrong things apparently

ocaml is definitely the wrong thing to teach yeah

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:20 AM

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and those first two are for absolute beginners

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:20 AM

#

what's ds&a

#

design principles and algorithms

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:20 AM

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data structures and algorithms

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:21 AM

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ah

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:21 AM

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cinder flare i mean so far in uni I've taken intro to java, object-oriented programming, and ...

When's ML coming

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:21 AM

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prisma wave ocaml is definitely the wrong thing to teach yeah

well idk about ocaml

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:21 AM

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prisma wave When's ML coming

that's some random course I was looking at from like Stanford or something

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:21 AM

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i don't know anything about ocaml

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:21 AM

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quiet depot well idk about ocaml

did you know it's the most popular finance language

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or maybe the most likely to get you a job in finance or something

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:21 AM

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I have used it once in a COC game and I can confirm it sucks

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:21 AM

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the most popular might be python

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:21 AM

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"Familiar with ocaml"

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:22 AM

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finance is unique

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:22 AM

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you know what else is popular in the finance sector? 😌

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:22 AM

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yeah google keeps shoving it down my throat cause it's "programming related ooooh"

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:22 AM

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bm was it you that got the google code thing

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:22 AM

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bm got a google code thing

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:22 AM

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It was yugi originally

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:23 AM

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well I think yugi got it but I believe bm got referred

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:23 AM

#

what the

#

what is it

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:23 AM

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He gave his referral to me I think

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Foobar challenge

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like COC but actually hard and if you complete all 5 challenges they add you to a potential interviewee list or something

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:23 AM

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when u search "hoe 2 code minecraft in python with unreal engine and 2mb ram" google will ask you to do a bunch of questions

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and if u pass

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ez interview at google

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:23 AM

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yeah exactly

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:24 AM

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oh woah that's sick

#

bm future google employee?

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:24 AM

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I don't think it guarantees an interview but they probably prioritise you

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Hopefully

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:24 AM

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I thought it was a guaranteed interview

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:24 AM

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man I'd be okay with bm stealing my data

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:24 AM

#

well I don't think yugi has got an interview

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:24 AM

#

did yugi finish

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:24 AM

#

But he got put in touch with a recruiter iirc

#

Yeah

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:24 AM

#

did you finish?

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:24 AM

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the last challenge gives you 30 days to complete apparently

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Nah

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:25 AM

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smh

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:25 AM

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Got bored at like challenge 4

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:25 AM

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smh

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 6:25 AM

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bored

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:25 AM

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bm probs couldn't work at google legally anyway

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:25 AM

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Wasn't enough instant gratification

#

probably not at 17

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:25 AM

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quiet depot bm probs couldn't work at google legally anyway

too bri ish

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oh yeah that too

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 6:25 AM

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yeah I didn't get in Google because I got bored

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:25 AM

#

Although they'd store your details and things

#

not that they don't do that already

#

But

#

You know what I mean

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:25 AM

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heh

#

man discord like reset my emoji frequency list

#

now everything feels weird and emojis aren't where I expect them to be

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:26 AM

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The default one is horriffic

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:26 AM

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yeah man I spent years fine-tuning that bad boy

#

now PlusOne is my #1 even though I rarely use it

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 6:27 AM

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You guys use that thing? I just type them lol

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:27 AM

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I use it on mobile

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:27 AM

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sometimes you gotta react

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:27 AM

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type them on pc usually

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:27 AM

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yeah if I'm typing my own emoji I type it obv

#

unless I can't remember the name lmao

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:27 AM

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Although I think your most used ones come up higher in the suggestion list

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:27 AM

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that cold face one I always forget

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:27 AM

#

#

best recent emoji list

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 6:27 AM

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Lmao

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:27 AM

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yeah see BM's #6

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:28 AM

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🥶

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:28 AM

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omg it's literally called cold_face

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 6:28 AM

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Yeah lol

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:28 AM

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how can I never remember that

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 6:28 AM

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Hahaha

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 6:29 AM

#

some of my frequently used list I've never used before

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:29 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/nQ91jjW.png

Imgur

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i don't recall using that blue siren

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 6:29 AM

#

I think reactions also count

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 6:30 AM

#

AutoSell

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:30 AM

#

is that the autosell logo lmao

#

wait guys maybe clip will see all my hard work updating this random-ass plugin and he will consider me worthy to work on AutoSell

#

now that'd be cool

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 6:30 AM

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cursed_fingerguns

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:31 AM

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maybe I'll bring it up next month when he does a #clips-pings annuncio

hot hull Jun 19, 2021, 6:43 AM

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Hello, and goodbye. #849215410560827432 message

steel heart Jun 19, 2021, 11:15 AM

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Lol

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 12:52 PM

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@quiet depot Any idea what the SHA-256-Digest-Manifest in a Manifest is the hash for?

#

I checked the jar's hash, the manifest excluding the hash lines, the entire manifest
none of them match

#

For eg: This from configurate

#

The classes are correct

#

but the top 2

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 1:04 PM

#

The correct way to show methods from the docs is like this right? JavaPlugin#getDataFolder as an example of a method inside a class

potent nest Jun 19, 2021, 1:09 PM

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(ParamTyp1, ParamType2, ...)

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 1:10 PM

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potent nest + `(ParamTyp1, ParamType2, ...)`

So how about for getters? Just no parentheses? Since it doesn't take in any parameters

potent nest Jun 19, 2021, 1:11 PM

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()

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 1:11 PM

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Alright so JavaPlugin#getDataFolder()

potent nest Jun 19, 2021, 1:12 PM

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yes I think so

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 1:12 PM

#

ty

boreal needle Jun 19, 2021, 1:18 PM

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realistically it doesnt matter that much as long as its clear what youre talking about

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 1:20 PM

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ofc, but for things like the bot to open docs it's good to know how exactly it's done

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 1:27 PM

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old wyvern <@!181675431362035712> Any idea what the `SHA-256-Digest-Manifest` in a Manifest...

never heard of it

static zealot Jun 19, 2021, 1:28 PM

#

omfg. deluxemenus 1.10.4 has an api

#

so does deluxetags

half harness Jun 19, 2021, 1:46 PM

#

btw, why doesn't mojang just include the paper & spigot patches into their server jars Thonk

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then paper & spigot wouldn't need the patches anymore

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 1:48 PM

#

illegal

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 1:48 PM

#

quiet depot never heard of it

ah rip

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 1:48 PM

#

well

#

actually don't know if it's illegal or not

half harness Jun 19, 2021, 1:48 PM

#

O

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 1:48 PM

#

the licenses with bukkit/craftbukkit/nms/whatever are so fucked up

fickle tusk Jun 19, 2021, 1:48 PM

#

Does anyone here know how the API of ezrankspro works ?

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 1:48 PM

#

it's too hard to figure out

half harness Jun 19, 2021, 1:49 PM

#

rip

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 1:49 PM

#

I kinda figured out the digest manifest one, but the class ones still dont make sense, the SPONGEPO.SF file has completely different hashes for all files

#

The manifest has all the correct hashes

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 1:49 PM

#

sponge probably uses them for its code gen

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 1:50 PM

#

hmm

#

I guess ill just leave that till that becomes an issue for now 🥲

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 1:51 PM

#

why is it an issue?

#

why do you need to know what they are?

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 1:51 PM

#

These are verfied at runtime, using jar-relocator changes the checksums

#

So I need to manually fix the checksums listed after using jar relocator

#

Or just delete the checksums as a whole, thats an option too

#

xD

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 1:52 PM

#

why would the checksums change?

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 1:52 PM

#

Because the classes are modified by jar relocator

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 1:52 PM

#

oh right

#

just update the checksums then

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 1:53 PM

#

Alrighty

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 1:57 PM

#

half harness btw, why doesn't mojang just include the paper & spigot patches into their serve...

Because then they'd have to acknowledge that their code sucks

#

And also probably licensing reasons like piggy said

half harness Jun 19, 2021, 1:58 PM

#

smiling_face_with_3_tears

potent nest Jun 19, 2021, 2:08 PM

#

They could apply MIT patches I guess

jovial warren Jun 19, 2021, 2:17 PM

#

@prisma wave hey guess what I found whilst looking through Mojang's DataFixerUpper

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https://github.com/Mojang/DataFixerUpper/blob/master/src/main/java/com/mojang/datafixers/kinds/Functor.java
https://github.com/Mojang/DataFixerUpper/blob/master/src/main/java/com/mojang/datafixers/kinds/Monoid.java

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 2:18 PM

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OH MY GOD

#

WTF I LOVE MOJANG NOW??

jovial warren Jun 19, 2021, 2:19 PM

#

kek

#

there's curry methods in here too

#

and too many functions lol

#

there's a Profunctor too, and even a MonoidProfunctor

#

and a FunctorProfunctor kek

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 2:21 PM

#

I need to find whoever made this and give them all my money

potent nest Jun 19, 2021, 2:22 PM

#

to make them stay away from java?

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 2:22 PM

#

Oh god that functor type is horrible though

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 2:22 PM

#

Who named that

#

DataFixerUpper

jovial warren Jun 19, 2021, 2:22 PM

#

probably Nathan Adams lol

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 2:22 PM

#

lol

jovial warren Jun 19, 2021, 2:23 PM

#

he was the one who described what it is and kinda how it works in the original article when they released the DFU and Brigadier

#

but the DFU is really under documented

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 2:23 PM

#

based dinnerbone

#

I don't know why he would ever think this is a good idea but I love him for it

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 2:24 PM

#

dinnerbone is the person who used to be part of the bukkit team right?

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 2:24 PM

#

Yeah

boreal needle Jun 19, 2021, 2:26 PM

#

lmao yatopia just got discontinued

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 2:26 PM

#

old news

boreal needle Jun 19, 2021, 2:26 PM

#

wait really?

#

did i miss that

quiet depot Jun 19, 2021, 2:26 PM

#

people have been talking about it all day

#

well not really talking

#

more laughing

boreal needle Jun 19, 2021, 2:26 PM

#

understandable

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 2:26 PM

#

Oh boy profunctors are something special

ocean quartz Jun 19, 2021, 2:27 PM

#

I feel bad for the guy, but the project was by its core a pretty bad idea

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 2:29 PM

#

wtf is contravariance

#

@winter iron oi

#

What do you think you're doing

#

Don't leave

winter iron Jun 19, 2021, 2:29 PM

#

HAH

#

LMAO

#

Ok fine

#

ill come back

half harness Jun 19, 2021, 2:30 PM

#

wat

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 2:31 PM

#

#

Smh

winter iron Jun 19, 2021, 2:31 PM

#

prisma wave wtf is contravariance

I may or may not help on some stuff

#

🙂

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 2:31 PM

#

wat

winter iron Jun 19, 2021, 2:31 PM

#

ill contribute to projects

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 2:31 PM

#

oooooo

#

Ily

winter iron Jun 19, 2021, 2:32 PM

#

whats first on the agenda

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 2:32 PM

#

idk

#

if you actually want to do something u could try one of the devdenbot issues

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 2:32 PM

#

prisma wave wtf is contravariance

Generics but you can reverse the assignment, basically what in does in kotlin generics

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 2:33 PM

#

isn't that just to do with subtyping tho

#

How can you have contravariance in haskell

#

https://www.schoolofhaskell.com/school/to-infinity-and-beyond/pick-of-the-week/profunctors

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 2:34 PM

#

Im not sure if it exists in the same sense in haskell

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 2:34 PM

#

I am reading this

#

I got lost at the first section

jovial warren Jun 19, 2021, 2:35 PM

#

boreal needle lmao yatopia just got discontinued

https://tenor.com/WpQw.gif

Tenor

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 2:35 PM

#

should've used profunctors

#

They had it coming

ocean quartz Jun 19, 2021, 2:37 PM

#

jovial warren https://tenor.com/WpQw.gif

Weren't you part of it? thonking

jovial warren Jun 19, 2021, 2:37 PM

#

at some point in the past, yes

#

I was there for a day

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 2:38 PM

#

convert the entire project to use datafixerupper

#

And it will be revived

jovial warren Jun 19, 2021, 2:38 PM

#

kek

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 2:38 PM

#

What made you leave after a day lol

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 2:42 PM

#

Not enough MonoidProfunctors

#

Obviously

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 2:42 PM

#

lmao

#

Ok yea I see what you mean bm xD

#

(b → a) → f a → f b

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 2:45 PM

#

how the heck does that even work

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 2:50 PM

#

OHHHH

#

I GOT IT

#

so f b here is a functor that takes b, applies (b → a) on it to produce a, and then applies it to f a

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnNfcXogxjo

YouTube

Alexander Noriega

What is a Contravariant Functor? How to read its type - HASKELL/TYP...

MUSIC:
Zander Noriega - Steredenn (Original Soundtrack):
https://open.spotify.com/album/56mLsY7kYFtrPwb0BjaXh1
Videogame on Steam:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/347160/Steredenn/

BOOKS:
"Programming in Haskell", by Graham Hutton:
https://amzn.to/30rh08M
"Basic Category Theory for Computer Scientists", by Benjamin C. Pierce:
https://amzn.to...

▶ Play video

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5:09

#

xD

remote goblet Jun 19, 2021, 3:22 PM

#

https://i.gyazo.com/8a8bca60350f9cd4767bd3d25d61a007.gif

#

intellij

#

please stop doing this

#

its so annoying

#

and i dont know what the option is that's causing it

#

Madge

onyx loom Jun 19, 2021, 3:25 PM

#

nextPave

remote goblet Jun 19, 2021, 3:25 PM

#

shut

#

CB_knife

jovial warren Jun 19, 2021, 3:38 PM

#

remote goblet https://i.gyazo.com/8a8bca60350f9cd4767bd3d25d61a007.gif

you don't like that wrapping?

remote goblet Jun 19, 2021, 3:45 PM

#

I hate it all going on 1 line

ocean quartz Jun 19, 2021, 3:55 PM

#

Was reading the post from showcase and one of the messages really describes the entirety of Spigot

jovial warren Jun 19, 2021, 3:56 PM

#

kek

jovial warren Jun 19, 2021, 3:56 PM

#

remote goblet I hate it all going on 1 line

ah

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 3:57 PM

#

A french hash?

#

🌞

sly sonnet Jun 19, 2021, 4:01 PM

#

baguette hash

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 4:03 PM

#

https://tenor.com/view/smoke-cigarettes-khalifa-gif-14617129

Tenor

gusty glen Jun 19, 2021, 4:14 PM

#

How can I query a list of pokemons based on their name via this API https://pokeapi.co/, I'm really confused... Or it would work if there was a way to query all pokemon names

ocean quartz Jun 19, 2021, 4:17 PM

#

You can do pokemon?limit=2000 to get all, since there isn't 2000

distant sun Jun 19, 2021, 4:17 PM

#

^

gusty glen Jun 19, 2021, 4:17 PM

#

if I just query pokemon it'll query for them all?

ocean quartz Jun 19, 2021, 4:17 PM

#

Only 20 it seems

distant sun Jun 19, 2021, 4:17 PM

#

count:1118

gusty glen Jun 19, 2021, 4:18 PM

#

I see, but is there a way to limit the results to just their names?

#

I don't need the extra information

distant sun Jun 19, 2021, 4:18 PM

#

the extra into is just an url to the query for that specific pokemon

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 4:18 PM

#

GraphQL 😌

gusty glen Jun 19, 2021, 4:19 PM

#

distant sun the extra into is just an url to the query for that specific pokemon

actually no, I queried for pikachu and got a bunch of extra data

distant sun Jun 19, 2021, 4:19 PM

#

im talking about the pokemon endpoint

ocean quartz Jun 19, 2021, 4:20 PM

#

install(ContentNegotiation) {
  json {
    ignoreUnknownKeys = true
  }
}

data class Pokemon(val name: String)
val pokemons = get<List<Pokemon>>("/pokemon?limit=2000")

😌

distant sun Jun 19, 2021, 4:21 PM

#

go away matt

gusty glen Jun 19, 2021, 4:21 PM

#

ocean quartz ```kt install(ContentNegotiation) { json { ignoreUnknownKeys = true } } ...

th is that, what API

distant sun Jun 19, 2021, 4:22 PM

#

ktor I guess

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 4:25 PM

#

ocean quartz ```kt install(ContentNegotiation) { json { ignoreUnknownKeys = true } } ...

Are you challenging me?

#

actually

#

Kotlin definitely wins if you're judging on lines of code

ocean quartz Jun 19, 2021, 4:26 PM

#

You got an inferiority complex or something? Lol

onyx loom Jun 19, 2021, 4:27 PM

#

🥲

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 4:37 PM

#

prisma wave Kotlin definitely wins if you're judging on lines of code

Unless Elara beats it!

#

Etor

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 4:42 PM

#

ocean quartz You got an inferiority complex or something? Lol

Of course not, I'm not inferior I promise you're the inferior one not me I'm not inferior

ocean quartz Jun 19, 2021, 4:42 PM

#

Lmao

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 4:42 PM

#

Is it possible to run java programs on google? Using the Scanner util that gets information from the user and prints it out

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 4:42 PM

#

old wyvern Unless Elara beats it!

Elara can do it in 1 line

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 4:42 PM

#

timber oak Is it possible to run java programs on google? Using the Scanner util that gets ...

what

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 4:43 PM

#

java programs on google the what

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 4:44 PM

#

Like, I made a project in java that uses the scanner util through the commandline there, but is it possible to just run the program on google? So you can give someone the link and they can use the program

#

Like a calculator does, basically

distant sun Jun 19, 2021, 4:45 PM

#

you would need to host it somewhere if the question is how to make an url like site.com/program/?param=value

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 4:45 PM

#

distant sun you would need to host it somewhere if the question is how to make an url like `...

Can that be done without it being too difficult?

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And free

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 4:46 PM

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repl.it

distant sun Jun 19, 2021, 4:46 PM

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^

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 4:46 PM

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Then the users needs a login to use the program though, right?

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 4:47 PM

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prisma wave Elara can do it in 1 line

import elara/httpClient
type Pokemon = { name: String }
parseJson Pokemon $ httpReq Get "https://pokeapi.co/pokemon?limit=2000"

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😌

frail glade Jun 19, 2021, 4:48 PM

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Weird flex, but okay.

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 4:48 PM

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I will flex languages that don't exist as much as I like

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Thank you very much

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 4:49 PM

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Can someone just test if this works rq? https://replit.com/@ValdemarFoster/CalculateMostEfficientRank#Main.java

repl.it

ValdemarFoster

CalculateMostEfficientRank

A Java repl by ValdemarFoster

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Or does it require login to use

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 4:51 PM

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Doesn't require login

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Seems to work ish

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 4:51 PM

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Hmmm yeah just not how I wanted it, I'd recommend it without the code showing

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Just the commandline

eternal compass Jun 19, 2021, 4:52 PM

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😄

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this epic giveaway is sick

distant sun Jun 19, 2021, 4:53 PM

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then you can try javascript and have it on a website (through repl.it as well)

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lmao https://offline.repl.it/

repl.it

Offline

Repl.it is a simple yet powerful offline IDE, Editor, Compiler, Interpreter, and REPL. Code, compile, run, and host in 50+ programming languages: Clojure, Haskell, Kotlin (beta), QBasic, Forth, LOLCODE, BrainF, Emoticon, Bloop, Unlambda, JavaScript, CoffeeScript, Scheme, APL, Lua, Python 2.7, Ruby, Roy, Python, Nodejs, Go, C++, C, C#, F#, HTML, ...

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Download the code evaluation form. It's ironic that you need an internet connection for this.

Print out the form and write your code. Just tell us what language you're coding in and start hacking away.

Mail it to us and we'll run your code. It's as easy as that. Zero dependencies.

eternal compass Jun 19, 2021, 4:57 PM

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what happens if I submit actual code to that? lmao

prisma wave Jun 19, 2021, 4:59 PM

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distant sun lmao https://offline.repl.it/

Haskell 😌

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 5:49 PM

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distant sun lmao https://offline.repl.it/

So, what, I paste the program into here? lol

distant sun Jun 19, 2021, 5:49 PM

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That is not for you

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 5:50 PM

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Oh

distant sun Jun 19, 2021, 5:50 PM

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Just looker at repl.it plans and free users cant have private code

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So even if you use html and js your code will still be visible in one way or another

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 5:51 PM

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Oh, any other site that can do this?

distant sun Jun 19, 2021, 5:51 PM

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glitch.com maybe

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But thats js only iirc

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 5:52 PM

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Yeahhhh sadly it is

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Hmm

frail glade Jun 19, 2021, 5:54 PM

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Wahoo. Paper 1.17 party

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 5:55 PM

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ayy

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:55 PM

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im hyped

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 5:55 PM

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What makes paper better than spigot? Performance?

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:56 PM

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Everything

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Better API, better performance, lots of fixes, nicer code

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 5:56 PM

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timber oak What makes paper better than spigot? Performance?

Absence of md_5

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 5:56 PM

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So you're basically saying that paper is better than spigot in all cases?

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 5:56 PM

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🥲

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:56 PM

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timber oak So you're basically saying that paper is better than spigot in all cases?

Yes

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 5:56 PM

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Oh

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:56 PM

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It is a complete superset

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 5:56 PM

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I've always just used spigot lmao

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:56 PM

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Yikes

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 5:56 PM

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Please dont hurt yourself

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:56 PM

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You're part of like the 20% or whatever lmao

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 5:57 PM

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But many public plugins also use spigot?

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:57 PM

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We need to eliminate you and your brethren and do a hard fork on Paper >:)

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:57 PM

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timber oak But many public plugins also use spigot?

The API is the same

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any plugins work for both

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 5:57 PM

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Mostly

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Any spigot plugin should likely work on paper, but not the other way around

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:57 PM

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Although I've been tempted to make my plugins only Paper for all the sweet rewards 😌

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 5:57 PM

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Whatttt

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 5:57 PM

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So they target spigot for better compat

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 5:57 PM

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"Better API, better performance, lots of fixes, nicer code"

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And now you're saying the API is the same?

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I'm so confused

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:58 PM

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I meant Paper includes all of Spigot's API

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and more

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 5:58 PM

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^

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:58 PM

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it's a superset

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 5:58 PM

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Ah yeah

tranquil crane Jun 19, 2021, 5:58 PM

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It implements the same API and adds more to it

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Still contains a bunch of server side changes though to nms classes and such

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 5:58 PM

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awe yeah

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we love paper

frail glade Jun 19, 2021, 6:10 PM

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@heady birch How's the 1.17 update going for KB3?

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 6:12 PM

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SUCCESS!!

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 6:15 PM

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Ha ha lol

ocean quartz Jun 19, 2021, 6:16 PM

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old wyvern SUCCESS!!

https://tenor.com/view/sacha-baron-cohen-great-success-yay-gif-4185058

Tenor

Great Success!

▶ Play video

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 6:16 PM

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xD

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Now to test if this finally lets configurate work properly

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:17 PM

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Whatcha doin? Sponge classloader?

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 6:18 PM

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nah, some jars seem to have checksums specified in the jar which doesnt let them be verified after a relocation with jar-relocator

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so now I need to go through and correct the checksums after relocating

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:18 PM

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ah I see

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 6:19 PM

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tbh maybe I should PR this into Jar-Relocator instead of writing a solution in slimjar

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I still have no idea what SHA-256-Digest-French is supposed to need as per the jar specs tho

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https://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/technotes/guides/jar/jar.html#Signed_JAR_File

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 6:20 PM

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Important notice for Contributors:
We changed our buildsystem from Maven to Gradle.

Awoooo

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:20 PM

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aweee yeah

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 6:20 PM

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md5 be raging :^)

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 6:21 PM

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🥲

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 6:22 PM

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obtuse gale md5 be raging :^)

one step closer to Paper hard-fork

ocean quartz Jun 19, 2021, 6:24 PM

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obtuse gale > Important notice for Contributors: > We changed our buildsystem from Maven to ...

Is that spigot?

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 6:24 PM

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paper

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 6:24 PM

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https://c.tenor.com/qw_oham0HQoAAAAM/sarcasm-not-funny.gif

ocean quartz Jun 19, 2021, 6:24 PM

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Oh lmao

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Was gonna say that'd be a miracle

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 6:25 PM

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xD

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I dont think the man whose using netbeans in 2021 is going to ever switch

half harness Jun 19, 2021, 6:25 PM

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netbeans ftw

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/s

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 6:31 PM

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XD

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 7:22 PM

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Wait a minute...

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What is...

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The PluginClassLoader from spigot overrides the URLClassLoader findClass method to add nms and bukkit classes as exceptions, but then goes on to rewrite the implementation of URLClassLoader instead of calling the super method

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https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/bukkit/browse/src/main/java/org/bukkit/plugin/java/PluginClassLoader.java#146

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Why..

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🥴

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 7:24 PM

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Probably to look for classes in other plugins?

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Idk can't look rn lmao

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 7:28 PM

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I doesnt seem to be looking for anything else I think, just looking into the specific Jar's entries and then if it finds nothing calls URLClassLoader's findClass

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 7:28 PM

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basically, slimjar is where it's at

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let's make a slimjar server impl

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 7:30 PM

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😳

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Anyway, really, what is going on here xD

frail glade Jun 19, 2021, 7:30 PM

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Hey Yugi, I saw that you published to Github the new 1.2.2 release, but it's not showing up in Gradle Portal?

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 7:30 PM

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oh? lemme check one sec

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oh wait nvm, the portal one is the gradle plugin, the release was for the library

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I made the PR for guilds

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you can specify a separate version for the plugin to add the dependency on in your gradle.properties

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Wanted to make some changes to the gradle plugin to be agnostic to the version of the library so a release of the plugin isnt required on every library release

frail glade Jun 19, 2021, 7:32 PM

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Oh, that's really weird, okay. Will I be able to remove that once you do another push to the gradle plugin or are they always going to be mis-matched now?

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 7:33 PM

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They're probably going to be mis-matched, im thinking of some extending libraries that the gradle plugin will suppourt as well

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so slimjar's library version is separate from the plugin version

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Planning to move the gradle plugin to suppourt something like this (#dev-general message)

frail glade Jun 19, 2021, 7:35 PM

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Ahh, right ,okay.

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 7:36 PM

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yoo paper moved group ids? io.papermc.paper

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 7:36 PM

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More breaking plugins? 😳

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 7:37 PM

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group id, not package names

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 7:37 PM

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ah

ocean quartz Jun 19, 2021, 7:37 PM

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I was gonna say, that would literally break mf-gui again lmao

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 7:37 PM

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xD

ocean quartz Jun 19, 2021, 7:37 PM

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It checks for com.destroystokyo.paper.PaperConfig to see if it's on paper

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totally didn't copy from paperlib

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 7:38 PM

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Oh are the paper classes under com.destroystokyo.paper?

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Who or what is destroystokyo?

frail glade Jun 19, 2021, 7:38 PM

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Old name for Paper

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 7:38 PM

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ah

frail glade Jun 19, 2021, 7:38 PM

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Errr. old website.

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But now it's renamed up io.papermc

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 7:38 PM

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I see

frail glade Jun 19, 2021, 7:39 PM

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Just deployed 1.17 for my gateway site if you need fast access to jars. https://glare.dev/gateways/

Project Gateways

Easy access to latest versions of projects I care about.

onyx loom Jun 19, 2021, 7:41 PM

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ooo nice

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thank

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 7:42 PM

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Nice

jovial warren Jun 19, 2021, 7:48 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/jC0PeXv.png Kotlin functions be like

Imgur

flameshot_screenshot

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 7:48 PM

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Yes, clearly kotlin bad!

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Haskell would do better

jovial warren Jun 19, 2021, 7:49 PM

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probably would in this scenario

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 7:49 PM

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😌

jovial warren Jun 19, 2021, 7:49 PM

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in fact, Java would do better in this scenario

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because it wouldn't introduce my reluctance to have two curly brackets on the same line

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 7:50 PM

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in fact, Elara would do better in every scenario

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 8:11 PM

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frail glade Just deployed 1.17 for my gateway site if you need fast access to jars. https://...

Do you also have an artifact I can use with gradle? 🥲

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 8:23 PM

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What artifact?

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 8:23 PM

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like to use in a gradle dependency

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 8:24 PM

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The paper api?

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or inclusive of nms?

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 8:24 PM

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I need a bungeecord dependency for 1.17

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but their repo only has 1.16

frail glade Jun 19, 2021, 8:25 PM

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Oop

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I'm pretty sure there's a 1.17 out there.

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 8:26 PM

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where would that be located perchance

frail glade Jun 19, 2021, 8:26 PM

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<groupId>net.md-5</groupId>
    <artifactId>bungeecord-api</artifactId>
    <version>1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT</version>

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 8:27 PM

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what repo is that in

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https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/net.md-5/bungeecord-api

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that's what I was lookin at

frail glade Jun 19, 2021, 8:27 PM

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<url>https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots</url>

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 8:27 PM

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ahh sonatype

frail glade Jun 19, 2021, 8:27 PM

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https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/create-your-first-bungeecord-plugin-proxy-spigotmc/

Create your first BungeeCord plugin (Proxy) | SpigotMC - High Perfo...

The home of Spigot a high performance, no lag customized CraftBukkit Minecraft server API, and BungeeCord, the cloud server proxy.

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 8:28 PM

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you know anything about using the gradle version in parts of your plugin?

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 8:45 PM

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Ummm might not be the right place for this but can someone help me with this math question, I need to find out how to calculate them with just a formula

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Idk if it makes sense

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So like 40 would be 1.1 I can see but what is the actual formula?

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 8:47 PM

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hmmm that is weird, I thought it was only 0-1

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cause that would be an inverse linear interpolation

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 8:48 PM

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It keeps going forever basically

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Possible to make a formula for it or nah?

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 8:48 PM

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well yeah

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I just don't know how lmao

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 8:48 PM

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Hmm, I really just can't figure this out

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 8:49 PM

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ah wait you can do linear mappi9ng

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what class is this for

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 8:50 PM

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cinder flare what class is this for

Myself lol

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Trying to figure out something really annoying

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 8:50 PM

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oh well this is definitely linear algebra

onyx loom Jun 19, 2021, 8:50 PM

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if the cell is divisible by 4, get the last cell-4 and +0.1

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 8:50 PM

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cell-4?

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How would that do it

onyx loom Jun 19, 2021, 8:51 PM

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so lets say ur at J5, u would be getting J1

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 8:51 PM

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https://www.alanzucconi.com/2021/01/24/linear-interpolation/

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scroll down to Linear Mapping

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 8:52 PM

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J is first colon right?

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 8:52 PM

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that's the real mathematical way to map a linear range to another linear range

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 8:52 PM

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J = 0.025 * I + 0.1

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 8:52 PM

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old wyvern J = 0.025 * I + 0.1

Tried this before, didnt work

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 8:53 PM

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What exactly didnt work?

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 8:54 PM

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old wyvern J = 0.025 * I + 0.1

Also tried that

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 8:54 PM

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oh ops, that should fix it

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tried and what went wrong exactly?

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 8:55 PM

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linear mapping

onyx loom Jun 19, 2021, 8:57 PM

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fuck ur mathematical formulas

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 8:57 PM

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You can just throw it into the slope form of a line

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 8:57 PM

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What does MOD do?

onyx loom Jun 19, 2021, 8:57 PM

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gets the remainder

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 8:57 PM

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reminder

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 8:57 PM

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old wyvern J = 0.025 * I + 0.1

Pretty sure this actually worked...

onyx loom Jun 19, 2021, 8:57 PM

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just like % in java

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 8:58 PM

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I had a typo in the formula lol

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I wrote 0.01 instead of 0.1... Now everything works

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:01 PM

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man guys my university just announced a new linear algebra for programmers course, which is in python instead of handwriting

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i am ultra hyped

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 9:04 PM

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Nice

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:04 PM

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damn okay today is not the day for talking I see

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 9:04 PM

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lol

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 9:05 PM

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cinder flare man guys my university just announced a new linear algebra for programmers cours...

nothing worse than handwriting lol

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:05 PM

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yea seriously dude

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 9:05 PM

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And python is a nice language to learn, I like it atleast

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:06 PM

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I already know python and moderately dislike it, but it's much better than writing shit out by hand

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 9:07 PM

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When you know Java, Python is pretty easy to learn I think

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You don't even have to care about variable types

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:07 PM

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timber oak You don't even have to care about variable types

That's its biggest problem

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:08 PM

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Yo so whats the best way for a static database (not user database or whatever)? I could use json or whatever but I want other people to be able to modify it
So I thought about google spresdsheets since I don't really have enough knowledge to make a panel to modify stuff and I cant give access to the file manager to the people I need.
For context: Lets say its for a wiki website, idk

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:08 PM

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pastel imp Yo so whats the best way for a static database (not user database or whatever)? ...

what now

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 9:08 PM

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cinder flare That's its biggest problem

Well, it isn't though lol

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:08 PM

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what are you storing

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:08 PM

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timber oak Well, it isn't though lol

What? dynamic typing is the biggest problem with Python from a development standpoint

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I guess it being slow as balls is a big problem from a running standpoint

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 9:09 PM

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cinder flare I guess it being slow as balls is a big problem from a running standpoint

Eh true

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:09 PM

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cinder flare what are you storing

in the case of a wiki, storing statistics, descriptions, etc of items

timber oak Jun 19, 2021, 9:09 PM

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It's just soooo simple lol

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:09 PM

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pastel imp in the case of a wiki, storing statistics, descriptions, etc of items

a relational database like MySQL or MariaDB would be your best bet

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if you wanna use JSON, MongoDB

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:09 PM

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not for what I want..

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read the message again.

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:09 PM

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I have and I still don't understand what you want

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You want a config file?

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 9:10 PM

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He wants configuration through a web panel or something I think

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:10 PM

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Well that's easy, just use an RDB or Mongo and make a little fronte nd

ocean quartz Jun 19, 2021, 9:10 PM

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I mean what you sent could definitely be done relational

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:11 PM

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I don't have enough knowledge to do a dashboard where my team can edit items of the wiki for example, which is why I was thinking in using google spreadsheets for it. It's not something that will be constantly updated, and when it is, it's by the user.

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:11 PM

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Are you making this wiki?

ocean quartz Jun 19, 2021, 9:11 PM

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😬

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:11 PM

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cinder flare Are you making this wiki?

it's not rlly a wiki

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hard to explain

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:11 PM

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well please do

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:11 PM

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the most near thing is a wiki

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:11 PM

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because you're trying to use google spreadsheets and that is such a horrible idea

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:11 PM

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it is technically a wiki

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:11 PM

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cinder flare because you're trying to use google spreadsheets and that is such a horrible ide...

not trying

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 9:11 PM

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pastel imp I don't have enough knowledge to do a dashboard where my team can edit items of ...

You can find lots of pre-built themes to work with if you dont want to create things from scratch

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:11 PM

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thinking about it

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:11 PM

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I suggest you also make a front-end for your database in your "technically a wiki"

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:12 PM

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old wyvern You can find lots of pre-built themes to work with if you dont want to create th...

nha

boreal needle Jun 19, 2021, 9:12 PM

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ive been making a "technically a wiki" all day

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:12 PM

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or use like MD files or something like ReadTheDocs

boreal needle Jun 19, 2021, 9:12 PM

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its the messiest thing to ever exist

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and has no db

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 9:12 PM

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lucyyyyyyyyy

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 9:12 PM

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discord-db???

boreal needle Jun 19, 2021, 9:12 PM

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all static config files fingerguns

ocean quartz Jun 19, 2021, 9:12 PM

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Lucyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

boreal needle Jun 19, 2021, 9:12 PM

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hi :D

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thats me

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:12 PM

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Locyyyuuu

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:12 PM

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I could obviously do a fking wiki with static files

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 9:12 PM

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:DD

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:12 PM

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but that doesn't give me any freedom

boreal needle Jun 19, 2021, 9:12 PM

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why not?

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:12 PM

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and I need to update it manually

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:13 PM

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You already said users are going to be updating it manually

boreal needle Jun 19, 2021, 9:13 PM

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config files give you the most freedom

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:13 PM

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the idea is for anyone in my team, be able to edit it

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whenever needed

boreal needle Jun 19, 2021, 9:13 PM

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git repo

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done

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:13 PM

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^

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 9:13 PM

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^

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 9:13 PM

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^

ocean quartz Jun 19, 2021, 9:13 PM

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Fuck that reminds me i need to finish my wiki
The summary parse is great :relieved:

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:13 PM

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uhuh.

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wait...

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:13 PM

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ocean quartz Fuck that reminds me i need to finish my wiki The summary parse is great :reliev...

MF-Wiki ooooh

boreal needle Jun 19, 2021, 9:13 PM

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collaboration is literally what git was designed for

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:13 PM

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kinda forgot git repo exists...

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 9:13 PM

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oh yea, you can abuse matt's repo parser

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😌

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:13 PM

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😌

ocean quartz Jun 19, 2021, 9:13 PM

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😌

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:14 PM

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old wyvern oh yea, you can abuse matt's repo parser

wait what

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 9:14 PM

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you can abuse matt
😟
's repo parser
😌

boreal needle Jun 19, 2021, 9:14 PM

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anyway imma go continue abusing node

#

cya

old wyvern Jun 19, 2021, 9:14 PM

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lmao

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 9:14 PM

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byeee

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:14 PM

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ok uh so.... git repo would be a good way of getting the data into the website

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ok...

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didn't think about that

boreal needle Jun 19, 2021, 9:14 PM

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yeah ive done it

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lucyy-mc/docs

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put it through rtd and itll automate it all for you if you want

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:14 PM

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what's the website

boreal needle Jun 19, 2021, 9:15 PM

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what website

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:15 PM

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where your docs are hosted

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:15 PM

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boreal needle put it through rtd and itll automate it all for you if you want

wth is rtd

boreal needle Jun 19, 2021, 9:15 PM

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read the docs

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:15 PM

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mmm rtd

distant sun Jun 19, 2021, 9:15 PM

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@pastel imp i personally use gitbook for wiki

boreal needle Jun 19, 2021, 9:15 PM

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gitbook works too

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:16 PM

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not exactly what I need

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it's not for a plugin

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or whatever

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and I prefer to have everything in the same place

distant sun Jun 19, 2021, 9:16 PM

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?

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:16 PM

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forgot I can't express myself

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very good

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.-.

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 9:17 PM

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rtd is not for plugins exclusively lmao

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:17 PM

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ye but as said

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prefer to have things in the same place

boreal needle Jun 19, 2021, 9:17 PM

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it is all in the same place

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just put it all in one repo

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done

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:17 PM

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the website is not only a wiki.

boreal needle Jun 19, 2021, 9:18 PM

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you dont really get much of a choice there

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unless you plan on dynamically generating your entire site

distant sun Jun 19, 2021, 9:18 PM

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just have a subdomain for the wiki and boom

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:18 PM

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so wait you're turning down easy access to the wiki because you want to keep the files on your hard drive where they can't be edited by anyone?

distant sun Jun 19, 2021, 9:18 PM

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^

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:18 PM

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and you refuse to make an editing system for it in that case?

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:19 PM

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boreal needle unless you plan on dynamically generating your entire site

uh no probably going to do half of the things like manually when I wanna add things, in this case it's only to update existing things

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:19 PM

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cinder flare and you refuse to make an editing system for it in that case?

dont refuse

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just dont have enough knowledge

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to do such

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:19 PM

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well that's the point of programming, learning how to make cool new things

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 9:20 PM

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oh god paper api 1.17 does not expose a shit ton of dependencies wtf

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:20 PM

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that's a good point

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but not having enough knowledge can be dangerous

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 9:20 PM

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doesn't expose slf4j 🥲

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:20 PM

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either in security

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or idk

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:21 PM

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I mean it's a wiki, what's the worst that can happen

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:21 PM

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I wouldn't under estimate the community..

boreal needle Jun 19, 2021, 9:21 PM

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if its any consolation ive spent all day writing basically an entire plugin download site for my plugins and i have no clue what im doing

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looks not terrible tho

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:21 PM

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I mean dude do whatever I guesss

boreal needle Jun 19, 2021, 9:21 PM

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kinda proud of it

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:22 PM

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But you shot down all the answers and if you're not willing to write something yourself then why don't you use a pre-made solution like RTD

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:22 PM

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cinder flare But you shot down all the answers and if you're not willing to write something y...

uh welp good point

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it's just too many things I have to worry about and learn about

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 9:25 PM

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Then use RTD

pastel imp Jun 19, 2021, 9:25 PM

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hmm

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well

ocean quartz Jun 19, 2021, 10:21 PM

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That moment when you're rewriting something and suddenly your 60 old lines turn into 15 🥲

obtuse gale Jun 19, 2021, 10:21 PM

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Classic

cinder flare Jun 19, 2021, 10:52 PM

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dude I understand why devops is a career

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this shit is so difficult

late bramble Jun 19, 2021, 11:56 PM

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Looking for something just to try and make for fun

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any ideas?