dev-general

[cinder flare]

yes, yes he did

[obtuse gale]

lmao

ah wait let me milk this multi

laughing my arse off

[cinder flare]

oh shit that has my ip in it lmao

at the very bottom

[obtuse gale]

👀

[cinder flare]

i never even realized

[old wyvern]

Ok, that looks very disturbing now that I think of it

[obtuse gale]

yugi what the fuck

why

[cinder flare]

yea wtf dude

[old wyvern]

xD

[compact perch]

✳️ Global Multiplier Expired!

The global multiplier has ran out and has been reset!

[onyx loom]

cya

[obtuse gale]

👋

[cinder flare]

noooo

I went up a good 20%

I guess that's not terrible

[obtuse gale]

i have no idea how much i advanced

[cinder flare]

that's why you do a before and after =xp, silly

[obtuse gale]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cinder flare]

before https://i.imgur.com/3zTvW4b.png

after https://i.imgur.com/4yHNxc4.png

[old wyvern]

I went up 5%

🥲

[obtuse gale]

does it make my life better?

[cinder flare]

oh shit I passed yugi

let's gooooo

[obtuse gale]

hm?

[old wyvern]

🥲

[cinder flare]

lil bit

[onyx loom]

man am i the only that hates this logo?

[cinder flare]

yeah I do like the classic java logo

[onyx loom]

i specifically have the oracle JRE installed so i can change the logo to theirs

[old wyvern]

Thats the openjdk one right?

[onyx loom]

yes

[old wyvern]

lol

[cinder flare]

adoptopenjdk yea

small price to pay for FOSS

[old wyvern]

ElaraJDK will have a better logo

[onyx loom]

when

[cinder flare]

oh? you guys are compiling the jdk?

[old wyvern]

Soon™️

[old wyvern]

uh... yea... definitely

[onyx loom]

😂

[cinder flare]

hey wait if there's extendedclip.com/spigot, why isn't there extendedclip.com/jdk huh

[onyx loom]

shhhhhhhhh

that website doesnt exist

[old wyvern]

why isnt there a extendedclip.com/elara is the real question

[ocean quartz]

Message looks weird if it doesn't start with uppercase 😔

[half harness]

Now just added a dot. 😌

[ocean quartz]

No, dot is ugly

[half harness]

how dare you disrespect the king of waffles 😡

[cinder flare]

bam boys, BetterLife 1.0 has been officially released... on github

no spigot yet

[half harness]

whats betterlife do?

[cinder flare]

oh, you don't know?

it's my shitty essentials remake

[obtuse gale]

Essentials replacemenT!

[half harness]

all i know is that u developed it or something

[obtuse gale]

Fully functional Essentials replacement!!!!

[cinder flare]

I spent a grueling 12 hours completely refactoring it with the amazing help of mister PigleyPiglet and Yugi!

and it still doesn't do that much!

[onyx loom]

did u fix the arrow code

[cinder flare]

but at least it uses DI

[obtuse gale]

PigleyPiglet

[cinder flare]

gettin there

still gotta split the subcommands into different classes, and then we'll be rid of all the hideous arrow code

[old wyvern]

lmao

[cinder flare]

i gave it a heart ❤️

[old wyvern]

xD

[obtuse gale]

@prisma wave !!!

[steel heart]

I am a CMI, Pex and Skript WorldEdit enthusiast.

[obtuse gale]

Can you link?

[cinder flare]

https://github.com/BetterLifeMC/betterlife

lol

[obtuse gale]

Niceeee

[forest pecan]

im on the modded server rn alone

🥲

[obtuse gale]

im on csgo alone :3

[onyx loom]

couldnt be me

(that was me, all day 🙁)

[obtuse gale]

typical bri ish teenager

[boreal needle]

what's wrong with bri ish teenagers >:(

[cinder flare]

I mean, BM is one and I guess he's all right... maybe a little too H-obsessed

[prisma wave]

DID YOU SAY HASKELL???

🤩 🤩 🤬

🤓 😮 😊 😳 🧐

[cinder flare]

Hotlin

[prisma wave]

🥴 💀 🥶 🥲 ☹️ 😖 🤬 🤢

[static zealot]

@cinder flare I might switch to Pop OS soon

[cinder flare]

aweee yeee

fucking do it bro

my favorite ubuntu-based distro

[static zealot]

™️

xD

I am starting to think that my windows is actually corrupted and wasn't just the update that has broken it

[cinder flare]

yeah Windows kinda do be like that sometimes

[static zealot]

because yeah I know a lot of people had that happen to them on the same update

but they also got a fix update

I got like 4 updates now and none fixed it

so going to reinstall windows and then install pop os instead of kde

[cinder flare]

agagagg

ya love to hear it

are you dual booting this bad boy?

[static zealot]

ye

[cinder flare]

okay be careful, windows likes to eat boot partitions

[static zealot]

its a shared pc. well kinda (my brother very rarely uses it) but I can't just force him on linux especially since all he does is play games

that's why I'm keeping windows

[cinder flare]

ah very sad

a lot of games work on Pop!_OS 🙂

[static zealot]

I tried to force him but when I Found out some games barely run or don't even run on linux he changed his mind

well yeah a lot work in kde as well

but 5 fps in cs:go for example

is not worth it

I prefer my 120 on windows xD

[cinder flare]

hmm I don't have enough experience running games on linux, but I bet CSGO can run great on non-windows

[static zealot]

well it can. just not for me

I Know my laptop is old as well but it runs better on windows for now so I'lkl keep using windows for games like that

[cinder flare]

yeah that is really weird, most things usually run worse on windows

[static zealot]

tho I've heard pop os comes with better nvidia graphic drivers by default so that's also nice

[cinder flare]

yeye

[static zealot]

tho I really hope they'll work for my gpu

bcz its a 920MX and I know they dropped support for 500 and 600 series

[cinder flare]

wtf is a 920mx

like nvidia?

[static zealot]

yeah geforce 920MX

its a laptop gpu

[cinder flare]

omg wtf is that lmao

it's a flat boi

[static zealot]

we'll that's how laptop gpus look like

[cinder flare]

not the newer ones 🙂

[static zealot]

well maybe a bit bigger but they still don't look like pc ones

they're less powerfull than the pc ones as well

that goes for the 30 series as well

tho I've heard the gap is smaller in the 30 series

[cinder flare]

they look kinda the same but obv they're less powerful

[static zealot]

but there's still a gap

[cinder flare]

you have heat and energy restrictions to deal with

[static zealot]

yeah Ik

[prisma wave]

That's definitely a driver issue or something

Csgo should run natively

[cinder flare]

thank you!

[static zealot]

it does its just bad. and yeah at the time I had the open source drivers

I haven't tested now that I have the good drivers

I should test now

[cinder flare]

oh wtf name.com

[prisma wave]

Oh yeah open source drivers for nvidia are not great

[cinder flare]

oh yeah Nouveau drivers are terrible

dude the free name.com domain is only for .codes and .games TLD's

like wtf

[static zealot]

huh?

what free domain?

[cinder flare]

github student dev pack

[static zealot]

ah

don't u get a free .me domain as well?

[prisma wave]

namecheap gives a free .me

[static zealot]

oh

Star then get it from namecheap

or do u want com?

[cinder flare]

nah I want starmism.me

but I've already claimed it apparently 🥲

[static zealot]

what?

[cinder flare]

yeah had the github dev pack for like 4 years now

[static zealot]

oh Ic

do u only get 1 year of domain tho?

[cinder flare]

yea

[static zealot]

ah that sucks

Well how much is starmism.me tho/

[cinder flare]

that's okay, I think I can afford like $10 lmao

ya

[static zealot]

10$?

hmm that's expnsive for a /me

[cinder flare]

is it? most domains I see are $10 a year

[static zealot]

I've got my .com with less than 10

and the same .me domain was like 3$

or 4

[cinder flare]

well maybe you've got the first-year discount

[static zealot]

nope.

it renews for the same price

and if I go to cloduflare (which I Will), I even get a 15% discount

so it will be like 9$ and some change

[cinder flare]

oh shit yeah I bet I could get it through google domains huh

[static zealot]

hmm maybe

[cinder flare]

aw fuck google domains is $20/year

it literally costs more than the .com wtf

[static zealot]

should I use proton to run csgo?

[cinder flare]

I think it runs natively

[static zealot]

or just steam linux runtime?

yeah it does I know

just wanted to see if there is an advantage

[cinder flare]

probably not

proton is emulation while native is not

[static zealot]

welp let's see what I get

oh I still got 4.91 euros in my steam wallet

forgot about that

[cinder flare]

you're rich!

https://i.imgur.com/Uqja6dg.png

heh

nice

[static zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-click-gif-8843762

alr let's try some casual dust 2

its nothing better than before

[cinder flare]

maybe your linux is just messed up

[cinder flare]

you need our lord and savior Pop!_OS

[static zealot]

might be. well the thing is I'm not 100% sure it uses the gpu. I have added the enviroment variable that should make it use it

but idk

if it does or not

[cinder flare]

ah yea I bet it's using like your integrated cpu gpu

[static zealot]

this is I've got no idea how to check

the guy that helped me said all I need to do is go into the steam's game property and set the launch option as __NV_PRIME_RENDER_OFFLOAD=1 %command%

but yeah this probably doesn't work

[cinder flare]

env __NV_PRIME_RENDER_OFFLOAD=1 __GLX_VENDOR_LIBRARY_NAME=nvidia

is what I've seehn

[static zealot]

@prisma wave

[cinder flare]

🤡

[static zealot]

I'll try this. maybe I Don't actually need the %command% part either

thought its a placeholder for the default command

or something

[cinder flare]

yeah dunno what that is

[static zealot]

bcz there was no command before

[cinder flare]

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/jdnnx9/make_steam_use_graphics_card/g99ktm0?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[static zealot]

alr I'll try this and we'll see xD

[prisma wave]

Way ahead of you 😌

[static zealot]

I saw

dw I removed it

u don't have to ping them. ping me xD

[cinder flare]

I know he @'d you and I clicked on off topic I was like damn, bri ish boi real quick

[prisma wave]

oh yeah lol

[static zealot]

I just wanted to make sure u had a screenshot before i deleted

[prisma wave]

wise

[static zealot]

man I even lost my csgo rank bcz of inactivity

[cinder flare]

this is why you just don't play csgo 🙂

minecraft gang

[static zealot]

I've been playing quite a bit of bedwars and skywars lately with dkim

yesterday we got like 4 wins in 6 games or something like that

[cinder flare]

dang very nice

[static zealot]

and I can prove that bcz I Just tried to use control to sprint in cs:go

lmao

also yeah that didn't really help

like I Seemed to get 10-15 fps but still a lot of drops to 0

just like before

like its not stable at all

0-20 is what I get now

0-15 is what I used to get

either it uses it

and its just bad

or it probably doesn't

which I am going to assume is the case

I just love when I try to maximize a tab on my small screen and it sometimes thinks the screen is the big one or something and just hides half of the app and I can't minimize it anymore

[cinder flare]

uh yeah... me too?

[static zealot]

lmao

I'm farming that xp today xD my boost is going to expire soon

@cinder flare thank you very much

the fps are up to 100 now

tho they are very unstable

[cinder flare]

well that is an improvement

[static zealot]

and I get a lot of 0 fps crashes

[cinder flare]

i am setting up my website now 🙂

[static zealot]

that's something that I've just noticed in general tho

[cinder flare]

all this CI talk has inspired me

[static zealot]

with linux

[cinder flare]

to not repeat the mistakes of Blitz's past

[static zealot]

btw what I Was doing wrong was that I had to add the keyward env at the start

and also idk if the other property was needed

just need to get these spikes fixed now

and I'm set

[cinder flare]

ah yea well that would make sense, you want to export environment variables

[static zealot]

man I love and hate firefox

why the hell when I type in the search bard something: something

it always does this

[boreal needle]

technically it is a uri ig

[static zealot]

is it tho? I typed cs:go fps drops

but whatever I put if it has : in it it does that

[cinder flare]

firefox poo poo

chromium gang all the way

[static zealot]

nah firefox is nice

[cinder flare]

nah

[boreal needle]

i cant afford to donate half my ram to a web browser

[cinder flare]

https://i.imgur.com/tu2l76Q.png

2GB and I have like 15 tabs open

[static zealot]

lmao

[cinder flare]

and it runs way fast

Firefox is slow af

[static zealot]

idk man. I've not used chrome in a long time

so I can't compare

[boreal needle]

they've made it much much faster recently

[cinder flare]

plus I'm not using that RAM anyways most of the time

not really

it's been great for years

[static zealot]

idk Star firefox is pretty good

I love it

[boreal needle]

same here

[cinder flare]

I did not like it when I tried it

[boreal needle]

and the new design is great

[cinder flare]

I wanted the full "linux experience"

and it was terrible

[static zealot]

I used to hate on it bcz other people told me its bad but now that I've actually used it, I love it

[static zealot]

oh yeah it is.

[cinder flare]

slow, unfamiliar, lots of my extensions didn't work

[prisma wave]

😌

[quiet depot]

i use chrome on linux

[cinder flare]

thank you!

[static zealot]

well idk but firefox is great

might not be chome but its great

[cinder flare]

Oh I mean I guess it's okay

[boreal needle]

and chrome has floc

[cinder flare]

maybe a little better if you're running on a PoS system

[boreal needle]

no floc for me tyvm

[quiet depot]

what

[static zealot]

what's floc?

[cinder flare]

meh whatever, most people turn it off

[quiet depot]

floc?

[static zealot]

oh is that the tracking thing?

[boreal needle]

ye

[cinder flare]

I'm honestly okay with people tracking me ngl

targeted ads are nice

[quiet depot]

what is floc

[boreal needle]

federated learning of cohorts

[cinder flare]

it enables tracking in like one line of code or something

[boreal needle]

basically cookieless profiling

[cinder flare]

bunch of people got mad and opted out of it

[static zealot]

targeted adds can suck a dick

[boreal needle]

the eff did a write-up on it

[cinder flare]

why lmao

[static zealot]

I got a chair once and literally 3 months all I got was the add for the exact same chair

[cinder flare]

it's like why I like twitch ads

[static zealot]

I want to fucking see new products not something that I already bought...

[cinder flare]

they're relevant to me

[boreal needle]

not being funny but haven't you already got a xhair5

[quiet depot]

why do you guys still see ads

[boreal needle]

why do you need another one

[static zealot]

lmao

[cinder flare]

exactly I don't

[static zealot]

I've got addblocker dw

[cinder flare]

except for twitch basically

[quiet depot]

my friends refuse to use ad blockers

[static zealot]

and yt premium

so I Don't really see adds

[cinder flare]

but I still don't care if they track me

[static zealot]

very rarely

[static zealot]

what?

why?

[cinder flare]

if you're really paranoid, using ungoogled-chromium

[quiet depot]

low intelligence levels

[boreal needle]

or firefox :)

[quiet depot]

they think ad blocks are viruses or something

[cinder flare]

all the benefits of the amazing chromium but without the tracking

[quiet depot]

and refuse to take their tech savvy friend’s advice

[cinder flare]

maybe if firefox didn't run like shit I'd be interested in it

but mozilla is running it into the ground

[boreal needle]

it doesn't

[cinder flare]

oh it does

[boreal needle]

it really doesnt

[cinder flare]

it really does

it can't handle my reddit page

[quiet depot]

firefox runs better than chrome my dude

[boreal needle]

brb benchmarking

[cinder flare]

not in my experience

i mean benchmark all you want

[boreal needle]

how long ago was your experience

[cinder flare]

few months ago

[boreal needle]

was it before firefox quantum

[cinder flare]

when I tried using it as my daily driver it was painfully slow

and half my extensions didn't work

[boreal needle]

then you have crap extensions

[cinder flare]

and it didn't sync my bookmarks or history

[static zealot]

man I gave my dad yt premium and he didn't want it at first. same shit (viruses or whatever) but now he loves it. like the yt ads are so fucking insane. I Din't realise until very late that they give 2 unskipable adds of 30 seconds lmao

[cinder flare]

I only respect Mozilla for Rust, not firefox

Rust will be their greatest contribution to society

[boreal needle]

ff is actually fantastic tho

[cinder flare]

sure man

i'll stick to my chrome thank you very much

[quiet depot]

chrome is best

[static zealot]

maybe

but firefox is good

[quiet depot]

only because i like it

[static zealot]

u can't deny that. they've improved it

[cinder flare]

yeah I'll give it good

[boreal needle]

you're all just bullying me now :(

[quiet depot]

objectively i’ve got no clue

[static zealot]

lmao

[cinder flare]

stop holding stupid opinions then

[quiet depot]

oof

[cinder flare]

ff is alright

[static zealot]

[prisma wave]

That's the biggest reason to use chrome

[cinder flare]

i'll give it that

but it's not great

[boreal needle]

but

it does sync?

[cinder flare]

and it's not fantastic

not when I use chrome on all my other devices already

[quiet depot]

u know what is fantastic

my chair

[cinder flare]

and migrating my history is way too much work

oh yeah I bet it is

[quiet depot]

u guys should buy chairs like mine

[cinder flare]

have you seen a productivity increase of like 400% pig

[boreal needle]

i have no money tho

[quiet depot]

yes star

[static zealot]

yeh sure. gimme 1.3k and I'll buy a chair like yours

I Don't have a 1.3k pc smh

[boreal needle]

£30 desk chair from amazon will have to do

[static zealot]

yeah lmao. mine was like 30-40 as well

I mean I've literally had a wooden kitchen chair for months

[quiet depot]

is amazon a big important part of your guys’ lives?

[static zealot]

so I'm fine xD

no

[quiet depot]

I’ve only ever used amazon once

[static zealot]

Never used amazon

[boreal needle]

yes

[cinder flare]

I would say so yes

[static zealot]

in my life

or maybe once I Don't remember

[boreal needle]

half the shit i buy is kinda embarrassing

[static zealot]

yeah I used it once

to get something for my dad

[cinder flare]

It's incredibly easy to purchase things, especially since I live in a small town

[quiet depot]

I bought a lock pick set from amazon

[cinder flare]

the nearest Best Buy is 50 minutes away

[quiet depot]

do u have same day shipping

[cinder flare]

pretty much

[boreal needle]

you get same day shipping?!

[cinder flare]

mostly 1 day tho recently

yea on small stuff it's very cool

[quiet depot]

well I think that’s why it’s not popular here

because we have 3 week shipping

[cinder flare]

oh wtf

[boreal needle]

upside down land go brrr

[cinder flare]

yeah 2 day shipping is like, the longest 99% of things will take

[quiet depot]

yeah lol I’ve never bought something online and it arrive that quick

always takes a week minimum

[boreal needle]

do you still have to wait for like weeks to get stuff from china?

[static zealot]

same. shipping is horrible in Romania. even if u buy from romania xD

[boreal needle]

AliExpress and the like

[quiet depot]

yes lucy

china can take months

[cinder flare]

well yea china takes a long time for everyone

[prisma wave]

That's how they get it so cheap though

[static zealot]

there's still stuff I ordered last year from AExpress and hasn't arrived yet

[prisma wave]

Comically long shipping time

[boreal needle]

true

[static zealot]

@cinder flare done. I've set absolutely everything to as low as possible and now I get a constant 40 fps

[lunar cypress]

Well.. how are you supposed to ship something from china in no time

[quiet depot]

1.17?

teleportation...

duh

do you germans not have that yet

[cinder flare]

ncie

[cinder flare]

i played black ops 2, they definitely do

[quiet depot]

blitz is that 1.17?

[static zealot]

cs:go

[quiet depot]

oh lol

what are your sepcs

[static zealot]

dk if u know this

[quiet depot]

csgo is one of the easiest games

[static zealot]

but got the drivers

to work

[boreal needle]

oh yeah 1.17 exists now doesn't it

[static zealot]

geforce 920MX

[quiet depot]

try running csgo through proton

csgo runs better through proton on linux than natively

[static zealot]

I've tried. and it didn't let me start cs:go at all

kept getting some error

let me try again

[quiet depot]

oof

[static zealot]

to run it on proton I go to Proprieties -> Compatibility I mark FOrce the use of specific steam play compatibilty and then select the highest version of proton?

which in my case is 6.3-4

[quiet depot]

new youtube style looking like a github profile readme

[boreal needle]

oh that looks a lot like ytm

[obtuse gale]

Hi

[quiet depot]

this chair is so cool

[boreal needle]

hiii :D

[obtuse gale]

Why am I awake wtf

[quiet depot]

i have a knob that allows me to adjust how hard the lumbar support is

and I can move the lumbar up and down too

[boreal needle]

i bet you love adjusting hardness with the knob 😉

[quiet depot]

yes it's one of my favourite things to do at the moment

too hard and it hurts

[static zealot]

piggy do I have to run it in wine?

[quiet depot]

but if I get it a bit softer, it's perfect

no blitz

[static zealot]

alr I'll try and see

[boreal needle]

piggy seems to be really enjoying this new chair

[static zealot]

maybe a bit too much?

[cinder flare]

https://i.imgur.com/CuYguRR.png

boys we got it working

SSL cert setup

[static zealot]

nice

[cinder flare]

custom html made in vim setup

[prisma wave]

🤢 🤢 🤢

[quiet depot]

star

have your skills drastically improved since the last site you showed me

[static zealot]

yeah @quiet depot

same thing.

[cinder flare]

vim autocompleted my tags actually it was very cool

[quiet depot]

sublime does that

[static zealot]

and I tried updating. nno updates available

[quiet depot]

idk blitz

[cinder flare]

no this isn't really for the main webpage

[quiet depot]

I never tried it

[cinder flare]

it's for ci

[quiet depot]

my 2080ti just powers through the bad drivers

[boreal needle]

what extension

[cinder flare]

well duh, but I didn't expect vim to do it

[boreal needle]

i need to know

[cinder flare]

no extension

[static zealot]

I'll just do with 40. its fine

[boreal needle]

wait fr?

[prisma wave]

stop discussing crap editors

[static zealot]

ty tho

[prisma wave]

Emacs or nothing

[cinder flare]

shutup bm

[quiet depot]

no one uses emacs

[cinder flare]

go back to bri ish land

[boreal needle]

nothing then

[cinder flare]

go drink some tea and crumpets

[prisma wave]

johnny and I do 😎

[quiet depot]

even our resident emacs nerd iwanio switched to sublime

doesn't that tell you something

[prisma wave]

I had crumpets last night actually

Very nice

[boreal needle]

crumpets last night?

[quiet depot]

crumpets are for breakfast

[boreal needle]

they're a breakfast food

[prisma wave]

nah supper

[obtuse gale]

Lmao

[quiet depot]

no..

[prisma wave]

10 pm crumpets hit different

[quiet depot]

that's not how they're meant to be used

[boreal needle]

and you call yourself british

[cinder flare]

BM have you had jaffa cakes before

[obtuse gale]

Get owned bitch

[prisma wave]

Many times

[cinder flare]

i love them

[quiet depot]

prior to yogscast I had never heard of a jaffa cake

[prisma wave]

they're so good yeah

[boreal needle]

crumpets with a little marmite and a nice cup of tea

perfect

[cinder flare]

me neither but now I love them

and I drink yorkshire gold 🙂

[boreal needle]

are they not normal then

[prisma wave]

golden syrup 😌

[boreal needle]

ew

[cinder flare]

not in america lucyy lmao

[boreal needle]

no

[quiet depot]

golden syrup goes on crumpets

idk what yorkshire gold is

[prisma wave]

^^

[boreal needle]

fuck no

[cinder flare]

tea

[quiet depot]

oh

[cinder flare]

it's good

[boreal needle]

posh tea

[prisma wave]

crumpets should be sweet not savoury

[boreal needle]

no they shouldnt!

[quiet depot]

i drink english breakfast tea on the odd occasion I have tea because it tastes good

or that tea with the orange tag

[boreal needle]

tesco tea is actually brilliant

[cinder flare]

https://github.com/Starmism/dotfiles/blob/main/.vimrc

[boreal needle]

oh thanks

[cinder flare]

there's my vimrc

[boreal needle]

ill take a look

[cinder flare]

you might find w!! of particular use

[boreal needle]

ooh that looks nice

[prisma wave]

grrrr

[boreal needle]

i need to sort out my dots

oh wintergatan are streaming

cya

[cinder flare]

who

[boreal needle]

wintergatan

[cinder flare]

who

[prisma wave]

You should be in school

[boreal needle]

swedish marble boi

[quiet depot]

wintergatan is cool

but so boring

[boreal needle]

i finished last month

[cinder flare]

wait bm do you say tuesday like the bri ish way

choosday

[quiet depot]

only videos I can watch are the ones where he shows a finished versoin

[prisma wave]

chewsday

[cinder flare]

yea!

[quiet depot]

tobacco chewsday

[boreal needle]

ive bern watching since day one

[cinder flare]

man I love bri ish people

[prisma wave]

me too

[boreal needle]

i don't

bunch of miserable gits

[prisma wave]

speak for yourself

[cinder flare]

haha

[boreal needle]

i am

[cinder flare]

yea bm's a lovely boy

[prisma wave]

thank you 😌

[cinder flare]

his mom offered to let me use her cellphone when we were playing the mc server earlier!

i have never seen such kindness

[prisma wave]

she is very nice

she offered to make cheese on toast for people I was in a call with a few weeks ago

[cinder flare]

yooo now that is nice

[prisma wave]

cheese on toast is cracked

[static zealot]

crack on cheese is also tasty

[quiet depot]

CAN confirm

[prisma wave]

what

[static zealot]

man the lag spikes still happen from time to time

oh might be bcz its overheating

[boreal needle]

cheese on toast is one of the best foods ever

[prisma wave]

😌

[obtuse gale]

it should be called a toasted cheese, like grilled cheese

[prisma wave]

different things

grilled cheese is like a sandwich

Cheese on toast is like toast

[cinder flare]

yea that's what I was thinking

but I'm not bri ish enough to be confident

hmmm now to figure out what CI to use

jenkins is for boomers from what I've heard

[boreal needle]

teamcity is nice

[static zealot]

but u're a boomer tho

[cinder flare]

no?

can you selfhost teamcity

[static zealot]

what?

[cinder flare]

nice'

[static zealot]

is google broken?

[cinder flare]

yes

[static zealot]

hmm

sad

its like Siri 5 years ago

[quiet depot]

what's wrong with jenkins

teamcity is even more boomer-like than jenkins

[cinder flare]

old, bloated, slow, shitty ui

[static zealot]

? jenkins is pretty good imo

[cinder flare]

from a reddit thread I read it takes like 1GB of ram with like 1 job

[static zealot]

and easy to understand

[quiet depot]

have you ever used jenkins

[static zealot]

what's going on

[cinder flare]

easy to understand?

[static zealot]

the ui I mean

[cinder flare]

everything I've read about CI has warned against Jenkins

[quiet depot]

star have you ever actually used jenkins

[cinder flare]

I mean no

[static zealot]

xD

[cinder flare]

But I trust the advice of redditors

[quiet depot]

jenkins is fine

[cinder flare]

Have you ever used anything else?

[quiet depot]

I've interacted with teamcity

haven't touched github actions

[cinder flare]

Yeah lmao, you're just a little biased

[quiet depot]

you haven't even used it and you're shitting on it

and least I've used it

[cinder flare]

No that's the point, I'm completely unbiased

I just read a bunch of comments

Never used any of tem

[static zealot]

yoo. this is nice. I get up to 60 fps in minecraft with discord opened.

[cinder flare]

mmm real drivers

[static zealot]

before I used to get like 0-15

its a bummer that I Don't know how to set this up as an icon in taskbar tho. I have to launch minecraft from a console every time

[quiet depot]

wtf

[static zealot]

bcz I have to add the env variables

[quiet depot]

what env variables

[static zealot]

and idk how to do that to a icon

so that it uses my nvidia drivers

or the gpu

[quiet depot]

lol

[static zealot]

bcz its on demand

otherwise the desktop breaks

[quiet depot]

why are you not using optirun

[static zealot]

optirun?

[quiet depot]

bumblebee

[static zealot]

idk what that is

[quiet depot]

uses the discreet gpu

it's a command

[static zealot]

oh

yo I'm still getting up to 30 fps with browser opened as well. this is

[quiet depot]

oh apparently you're meant to use "primusrun" actually

[static zealot]

we'll try later.

rn I basically have to do nv __NV_PRIME_RENDER_OFFLOAD=1 __GLX_VENDOR_LIBRARY_NAME=nvidia command

for every app I want to use the gpu

steam is nice and lets me do that for every game in the proprieties

[quiet depot]

what's thef ull command for minecraft?

[cinder flare]

just add minecraft to steam

[quiet depot]

that's an option

or u can just modify the command in ur desktop file

[static zealot]

its minecraft-launcher

ohh you're right

but does the desktop file also handle the icon from the task bar?

[quiet depot]

yes

fyi tho

multimc is a cool launcher

highly recommend

[static zealot]

well I actually am starting to like lunar

has some nice mods I like

I change the Exec=minecraft-launcher line?

or is it the StartupWMClass? I assume its exec

let's see

hmm think it works. tho it doesn't show up in nvidia-smi anymore

[half harness]

what'd you change?

or is it some linux thing ☹️

[rapid shore]

is it normal for spigot 1.17 to keep randomly restarting?

[half harness]

no, show server log and plugins in #minecraft

https://i.imgur.com/A2gSC5u.png
👀

:/

[old wyvern]

What the hell are you testing?

[forest pecan]

Dkim is a very good enterprise developer

He obviously designed over hundreds of test cases

[old wyvern]

Or likely hes using network calls in his tests

🥴

[half harness]

uh oh

[forest pecan]

or IO operations

[half harness]

i found the issue

[forest pecan]

🥴

[half harness]

and idk how to solve it

        val task = mock<Task<MutableList<Member>>> {
            on { get() }.thenReturn(mutableListOf(member))
        }
```I'm using await(), not get()... but await() requires a coroutine... what do i dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

also why am i using a mutable list

instead of readonly

[forest pecan]

Imagine using Kotlin

[old wyvern]

launch it into a blocking coroutine

[half harness]

        val task = mock<Task<MutableList<Member>>> {
            on { runBlocking { await() } }.thenReturn(mutableListOf(member))
        }
```will this work?

im not sure

[old wyvern]

no

[half harness]

if i do it outside

[old wyvern]

The whole test needs to be in to context

[half harness]

it's not in the coroutine anymore

wait what

how do i do that?

[old wyvern]

Start the function with the runBlocking

[half harness]

oh the entire function itself?

wait

[old wyvern]

fun `One of my tests`() = runBlocking {

}

[half harness]

oh

alr

uh

then what do i do next?

Suspension functions can be called only within coroutine body

        val task = mock<Task<MutableList<Member>>> {
            on { await() }.thenReturn(mutableListOf(member))
        }
```this is bc `await()` isn't in the coroutine anymore

sorta

aaaa

[old wyvern]

await needs to be called on a defer

[half harness]

defer?

[old wyvern]

Yes

[half harness]

How do i use defer?

[old wyvern]

For example, the async function returns a completable defer

They suspend till that defer goes to the 'completed' state

What are you awaiting here

I need more context

[half harness]

Guild#loadMembers#await

in JDA

[old wyvern]

Are you using mockito?

[half harness]

org.mockito.kotlin.mock

yes

[old wyvern]

If so you can only mock calls on a mock object

So you need to mock your function calls to return a mock object before you have such a mock statement

[half harness]

uhhh

[old wyvern]

Ok let me give you a simple example
I want to mock openConnection on a URL
for that to work, the URL must be a mocked URL
So we create a Mock URL, and set the mock call on it, then we pass this mock url wherever we want

[half harness]

yes

[old wyvern]

Are you doing something similar or directly trying to mock an internal object?

[half harness]

        val snowflakeCacheView = mock<SnowflakeCacheView<User>> {
            on { asList() }.thenReturn(emptyList<User>())
        }
        val user = mock<User> {
            on { name }.thenReturn("dkim19375")
            on { discriminator }.thenReturn("6351")
        }
        val member = mock<Member> {
            on { it.user }.thenReturn(user)
        }
        val task = mock<Task<MutableList<Member>>> {
            on { await() }.thenReturn(mutableListOf(member))
        }
        val guild = mock<Guild> {
            on { loadMembers() }.thenReturn(task)
        }
```im doing this

a bunch of mocks

and then i just pass it through

[half harness]

wdym mocking internal object?

[old wyvern]

You arent returning an instance of Task<MutableList<Member>> anywhere there

That instance needs to be a mocked object itself for the mock call to work

[half harness]

uh

the Task is the mock type

and i'm returning a list

which is what await() or get() would return

[old wyvern]

Where are you creating the mock task?

[half harness]

        val task = mock<Task<MutableList<Member>>> {
            on { await() }.thenReturn(mutableListOf(member))
        }
        val guild = mock<Guild> {
            on { loadMembers() }.thenReturn(task)
        }

[old wyvern]

oh right, kotlin extensions

hmm

[half harness]

also ```kt
/**

• Awaits the result of this Task
• @return Result
  */
  suspend fun <T> Task<T>.await() = suspendCancellableCoroutine<T> {
  it.invokeOnCancellation { cancel() }
  onSuccess { r -> it.resume(r) }
  onError { e -> it.resumeWithException(e) }
  }

whats the diff between that and get()?

[old wyvern]

And whats the issue rn?

[old wyvern]

get is blocking

await is suspending

[half harness]

await() cannot be called since it's not in a coroutine scope thingy

[old wyvern]

.

[half harness]

I did

[old wyvern]

And you still cant call it?

[half harness]

error

[half harness]

yes

[old wyvern]

What error does it throw?

[half harness]

Suspension functions can be called only within coroutine body (ide/compile error)

and if i put runBlocking in await() im afraid that it'll stop working

[old wyvern]

Show me your current code

[half harness]

fun test() = runBlocking {
        val snowflakeCacheView = mock<SnowflakeCacheView<User>> {
            on { asList() }.thenReturn(emptyList<User>())
        }
        val user = mock<User> {
            on { name }.thenReturn("dkim19375")
            on { discriminator }.thenReturn("6351")
        }
        val member = mock<Member> {
            on { it.user }.thenReturn(user)
        }
        val task = mock<Task<MutableList<Member>>> {
            on { runBlocking { await() } }.thenReturn(mutableListOf(member))
        }
        val guild = mock<Guild> {
            on { loadMembers() }.thenReturn(task)
        }
    }
```removed the test itself to keep the code short for now :p

[old wyvern]

dude

remove the runBlocking in there

[half harness]

uh

[old wyvern]

in your on

[half harness]

oh

yea

i was just seeing

lol

[old wyvern]

lol

[half harness]

it wasn't there before*

doesn't work, as expected 🥲

[old wyvern]

Send me the error you're getting as well

[half harness]

it's just this

[half harness]

this is where it's erroring

[old wyvern]

hmm

wait

[half harness]

alr

[old wyvern]

Did having the runBlocking in your on give the same result?

[half harness]

yes

[old wyvern]

hmm

[distant sun]

@quiet depot idk if I ever told you but thanks for the run configuration as action plugin 💪

[quiet depot]

np

what you using it for?

[distant sun]

only for building the jar atm

it is faster than switching the configuration to Build, build, switch back to Server, start the server

[quiet depot]

I usually do ctrl + b for build

then ctrl 1 - 9 for servers

[half harness]

9 servers?

[quiet depot]

well no I've never had 9 before

[distant sun]

interesting

[quiet depot]

I was just saying I use the num keys

[distant sun]

I might do the same with ctrl b

[quiet depot]

most I've had is like 5

[distant sun]

the default bind that's on ctrl b doesn't help me that much

[quiet depot]

excluding a proxy

[distant sun]

and I found out that shift shift is very useful

[quiet depot]

when there's lots of severs I'll add bungeecord so I can quickly switch between

also with viaversion

makes testing really easy

are breaks unnecessary for new switches?

[onyx loom]

i believe so yea

[half harness]

btw, do you know how I'd do it with stub? I'm a bit confused now how it works, and I think it only works for top level functions :/
https://github.com/mockito/mockito-kotlin/issues/311#issuecomment-454183020

[raven cedar]

Alright can i ask a question here please?

[half harness]

coding question: #development
plugin help: #general-plugins / #general-plugins-2
minecraft help (that isn't coding or plugins): #minecraft

[raven cedar]

It's a discord question.

[half harness]

assuming it's not an API question you can ask in #off-topic

[gusty glen]

👀

[half harness]

is it possible to rename/delete a maven central artifact id thingy? i just uploaded dkimcore but now i want to rename it to dkim-core 😩

[prisma wave]

try sending a delete request

Might work

Assuming you're authorised ofc

[half harness]

Where do I send a delete request?

i sorta just want to delete all my repositories 🥲

[prisma wave]

no idea

[half harness]

oh well

lol should i just keep it as dkimcore

[prisma wave]

up to you

we do a little deleting messages

[half harness]

😖

[static zealot]

🏓

[static zealot]

yeah linux. just made the drivers work. (the nvidia offical ones) as before I was using some default linux open source ones

which are kinda bad

hmm @quiet depot u around?

I'm having some trouble here. So basically I have an .appimage (of the lunar client) but I don't think it has an open command. Couldn't find one at least. every time I just run ./LunarClient.appimage

or just double click it

any way to make it into a task bar icon and maybe the "start menu" or whatever its called

[half harness]

is there no way to rename a maven central repo?

or delete

aaaaaaaa

[static zealot]

bbbbbbbb

just play minecraft dkim

[ocean quartz]

Nope

[half harness]

rip

ok

[ocean quartz]

Nor delete

[obtuse gale]

Central is forever

That's why you don't name your project dkim195728572JDAUtils

[static zealot]

lmao

why the 8572 tho?

I'm confused

@half harness up for some mc?

[half harness]

uh

sure

also

[static zealot]

let's see what fps I get on 1.8 lunar

oh wait it doesn't use the gpu

fuck

[half harness]

how come you always want to play mc at the same time as riced guy xD

[static zealot]

how the fuck do I use it

[half harness]

the riced guy just joined less than a minute ago

[static zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/creepy-vsauce-smile-gif-11637270

[half harness]

same as last time

[static zealot]

maybe I am riced guy

[half harness]

and i think last last time too

👀

[static zealot]

yeah. it happend last time and time before that

[static zealot]

anyone knows anything about this?

[half harness]

https://i.imgur.com/IRayjfP.png
you guys also left sorta at the same time

sus

(riced guy was managing forge mods, usually uses lunar)

[static zealot]

I think I got it

running on the gpu

let's see

[obtuse gale]

amogus

[static zealot]

well game started and I had browser and discord opene

and it didn't crash

that's a good sign

[half harness]

how is it possible that they both joined nearly at the same time the past 3 days and closed mc nearly at the same time today

[static zealot]

30-60 fps with discord open

let's go boys

69 fps

99 fps

88*

I'll close discord tho to see if I can get more consistent fps

bcz rn its very inconsistent

[half harness]

Is it a coincidence that riced msged me (after being afk after he left when you left) the moment you joined? literally the same second 👀

blitz

i think you have telepathy with him

and now you both send me party invites in like the span of 2 minutes

https://i.imgur.com/xPqPnmB.png lol

[timber oak]

Ahhh nice now this server gets dm spammed by bots

Can support ban?

854274938999275530

[dusk pilot]

Hey, I got the same

[golden sun]

I got the same

[half harness]

report to @compact perch

[timber oak]

Imma report it then

Wait how

It's a bot

[golden sun]

Dependent Procedure
854274540771082250

[half harness]

DM it

[modern niche]

854274520453742592 too

[half harness]

DM @compact perch

[prisma wave]

I WISH

[timber oak]

Will I get a message if the user gets banned or anything? If I reported it?

[static zealot]

nope

but over 30 users got banned

they were bots

[wanton bay]

854274645640609793

[static zealot]

yours too

[wanton bay]

this one too

[static zealot]

its banned

already

[timber oak]

Aight, ty

[static zealot]

u can just type <@854274645640609793> and if it doesn't find the user is probably banned

[timber oak]

True

mb

[static zealot]

no worries

[wanton bay]

he still shows up on mutual servers for some reason

[static zealot]

might be discord cache

if u restart discord completely should be gone. I Don't see him in this discord anymore

[wanton bay]

yeh that was it mb

[static zealot]

no worries 👍

[half harness]

welp i just removed the test itself for now

[timber oak]

How are devs handling upgrading to 1.17? Since it requires different Java versions from 1.8.9 to 1.17?

Does it require different jars to make a plugin in 1.8.9 and 1.17?

[cinder flare]

The JRE is backwards compatible

You can still compile with Java 8 on all versions

[timber oak]

Oh what, didn't know that. So what is it with Java 16 being required for 1.17? Is it just on client side?

[cinder flare]

To run either the client or paper, you have to have Java 16 as your Java

But Java 16 can run bytecode of any Java version before it

If you're lucky enough to not care about supporting older, shitty versions you can compile towards Java 16 and use all the new features

Otherwise, compiling towards Java 8 on your plugin is still fine

[timber oak]

So why not just always use java 16 to compile?

[half harness]

not all servers use java 16

[old wyvern]

Backwards compatibility

[cinder flare]

Because then anyone who uses it has to have Java 16

[lunar cypress]

You can use it, but you can't target java 16 if you want it to run everywhere

[cinder flare]

You target the minimum Java version you expect most people to have

[old wyvern]

Ah the java slogan

[timber oak]

On the server host side or the users on the server?

[old wyvern]

"write once, run everywhere"

ha

[cinder flare]

Though a lot of plugins and people are dropping support for Java 8

[old wyvern]

run if you have a jvm of atleast that version!

[cinder flare]

Which side runs the plugins?

That side has to have the minimum Java version

[timber oak]

Both? In most cases ig

[cinder flare]

Nope

Clients don't run plugins

[half harness]

the users aren't connected to the server's JVM

[timber oak]

true

So does Java 16 have a lot of features when compiling with it?

[onyx loom]

yes

a lot more enhancements to make it more "modern" if u will

[lunar cypress]

Yeah, Java 16 compared to Java 8 is a pretty big step

[timber oak]

So Java 8 is just simply too bad now? For most developers

[cinder flare]

Yeah I love it, migrated one of my plugins to only 1.17+ and Java 16 plus

[lunar cypress]

Yes, Java 8 should be ditched

[half harness]

i use java 15 🤡

[cinder flare]

Java 8 has been bad for years

It released in like 2012

[lunar cypress]

2014

[cinder flare]

Still that's like using Windows 7 today

[timber oak]

So servers with the plugin has to have java 15+ right?

[old wyvern]

Ditch Java itself

Move to Elara

[lunar cypress]

https://howoldisjava8.today

[half harness]

yea

i use java 8 tho, but i also have java 15 installed

[timber oak]

So why doesn't every client just use Java 16 to run servers?

[lunar cypress]

servers should be expected to at least update to new lts versions

[cinder flare]

See that's the dream man

It's because Oracle is a piece of shit company and tried to charge people for newer versions of Java so everyone stopped updating

[lunar cypress]

because of incompetency and because a lot of hosters give you java 8 by default

[cinder flare]

We're still picking up the pieces of their actions, though minecraft moving I think will impact the version chart a moderate amount

[lunar cypress]

that isn't true

[timber oak]

When compiling it only matters which JDK I use right? My path variable or whatever it's called doesn't matter does it? The one that appears in cmd when typing java -version

[lunar cypress]

latest versions have always been free

They changed their licensing for java 8

[timber oak]

This question is so confusing I see now lol

Basically, can I use Java 16 on my pc as path variable and compile with JDK 8 or something?

[lunar cypress]

yes

[cinder flare]

You can target your build to any version below the one you're using