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[eternal compass]

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[forest pecan]

built a roof and some stuff

[eternal compass]

oh wow

nice

[forest pecan]

Yea

[eternal compass]

I claim the entire place as mine.

[forest pecan]

Lmao

[obtuse gale]

Nice home can I live there

[cinder flare]

bro you got chrome and firefox

what a mad man

[lunar cypress]

I have brave and firefox

mainly because some apps don't want to run on non-chromium browsers

cough teams

[forest pecan]

school laptop lol

[cinder flare]

bro your school has macbooks that can run PO3

[forest pecan]

Lmao

its 8 gigabytes ram

i managed to load the modpack on 4 gigabytes

at like 30-40 fps

[cinder flare]

impressive I must say

[forest pecan]

i have to pass this computer to the school tmr tho

lmao

cause tmr is the last day

[cinder flare]

awwww

[forest pecan]

lol

but it uses like 70% of my battery power

just from forge loadup

i bet like loading jei itself is already like 90% of what's causing that power to decrease so fast

lmao

[cinder flare]

yoo but JEI is so good

[forest pecan]

Well yeah lol

[steel heart]

JES

We need to cure haskell

[gusty glen]

JEI 🤢 NEI 😌

[cinder flare]

bro you're a generation behind

[gusty glen]

but NEI is better

[cinder flare]

no it's not?

[forest pecan]

ur actually a boomer

[cinder flare]

JEI improved upon it in every way

[gusty glen]

it has eggs

[forest pecan]

Secret is a boomer

[cinder flare]

eggs?

[forest pecan]

big boomer

[gusty glen]

*spawners

[cinder flare]

I'm sure you can turn on spawners in JEI

[forest pecan]

Ovaries

[steel heart]

bruh we have creative mode

why use JEI or NEI

🤡

[cinder flare]

the progression went TMI -> NEI -> JEI

[forest pecan]

^

[gusty glen]

I started playing on 1.2.5

[cinder flare]

any real boomer knows about TMI

[forest pecan]

Covid 19

more like

[cinder flare]

that's not even that boomer

[forest pecan]

the boomer doomer

[cinder flare]

1.2.5 was like, kinda lame

[gusty glen]

TMI was as good as NEI

[cinder flare]

uh no it wasn't

[gusty glen]

but JEI though, ugly interface

[steel heart]

true

[cinder flare]

it's the same?

im so confused

[steel heart]

NEI always appeared on my left hence its worse

[gusty glen]

it was not lame, it was simple, yeah, but the mods were already there and they were great

[cinder flare]

meh the mod scene didn't really get great until 1.4.7

sure you had tekkit and the original feed the beast, but 1.4.7 was the dream

[gusty glen]

what are u talking about? 1.2.5 had some great mods already

[steel heart]

what happened in 1.4.7

[gusty glen]

yeah 1.4.7 was a beast though

[cinder flare]

not great modpacks

[cinder flare]

dunno, it just happened that everyone solidified on it

and it became a bastion of modpacks

next was 1.6.4

[steel heart]

ah

[cinder flare]

then honestly 1.12.2 was the next step

[gusty glen]

u don't need packs if you make ur own

[cinder flare]

🤮

[steel heart]

1.7.10 tho

[forest pecan]

tbh 1.7.10

[gusty glen]

1.7.10 > 1.6.4

[forest pecan]

was also good

[cinder flare]

okay I'll give you that

1.7.10 was okay

[steel heart]

then 1.16.5 next?

[forest pecan]

then 1.12

[steel heart]

😮

[cinder flare]

I guess I have better memories of 1.6.4 cause of FTB Ultimate

[forest pecan]

god like

1.12.2 is godlike

[cinder flare]

maybe? i dunno the water is muddy

[steel heart]

lol

[boreal needle]

i remember 1.5 coming out

redstone stuff was cool

[steel heart]

I remember 1.17 coming out

[prisma wave]

change your name

[steel heart]

the cave and cliffs update without cave and cliffs

[prisma wave]

change your name

[steel heart]

ok

[prisma wave]

i will not ask again

no...

[steel heart]

fine now?

[prisma wave]

hmmm

could be worse i guess..

[forest pecan]

Haskell bed

[steel heart]

pls no

dont

remove that before bm sees it

wxip

remove now

[forest pecan]

Wxip

remove that

please

@sly sonnet

[prisma wave]

HELLO

[sly sonnet]

ok

[steel heart]

NO

[forest pecan]

QUICK

[obtuse gale]

:))

[prisma wave]

what is haskell you ask?

[forest pecan]

ty

[steel heart]

NOOOO

[sly sonnet]

yes, what is it?

[prisma wave]

haskell is a statically typed, lazy, purely functional programming language

[sly sonnet]

so it's a shit language, now i understand

[prisma wave]

what makes you say that?

[steel heart]

🥲

[cinder flare]

[prisma wave]

please

reply now

provide evidence

immediately

[ocean quartz]

Oh no

[steel heart]

BM I mean I could use it but I would use it more impurely then

if thats possible

[forest pecan]

"haskell is a statically typed, lazy, purely functional programming language"
"On the oldest anarchy server in Minecraft"
"lightweight minecraft server implementation made from scratch in Kotlin"

[obtuse gale]

lightweight
hhhhhhhhhhhhh

[lunar cypress]

!remindme 4h is this discussion still going?

[prisma wave]

not possible

well kinda possible

[onyx loom]

im afraid u will need to be tier 5 for that

[prisma wave]

not really possible

[steel heart]

hmm but how does it handle io then

[prisma wave]

monads

duh

[cinder flare]

nomads

come on

[forest pecan]

when i see monads I think

mcdonalds

[steel heart]

"monads" I still dont know what they are lol

lol

[prisma wave]

in this context they are just side effects

[steel heart]

hmm I only know functor and endofunctor

[prisma wave]

monad is monoid over category of endofunctors

[steel heart]

and monoid?

feels like monoid is a monad

[prisma wave]

no

[steel heart]

and vice versa

[prisma wave]

monoid is type with identity element and combination operator (<>)

[boreal needle]

can we get a translation for the normal people

[lunar cypress]

I recently saw a video that you might be interested in

[prisma wave]

probably

[steel heart]

monad is type with identity element and combination operator over category of endofunctors then?

[prisma wave]

if we have 2 things and we can combine those things we have a semigroup
if we have a semigroup and a "default" element we have a monoid

[prisma wave]

yes

the definition doesnt make a lot of sense

because it's mostly a joke

[boreal needle]

so is a semigroup like a pair?

[lunar cypress]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSuu8zBBNAA

[lunar cypress]

yes

[onyx loom]

46 minutes long

[prisma wave]

i will add that to watch later

[steel heart]

gonna watch it in 2x speed

[lunar cypress]

It contains basic maths too

[onyx loom]

basic maths is too hard

[lunar cypress]

And it also uses Java as an example PepeLaugh

[prisma wave]

the obvious example of semigroups are numbers, which we can combine by adding or multiplying

[half harness]

😩 i copy and paste the jpackage gradle example from its docs but it still errors ;-;

[prisma wave]

lists / strings too, you can combine those into 1

pretty much anything can be a semigroup if you're brave

am i a semigroup?

maybe

are you?

perhaps

[steel heart]

lol

[prisma wave]

you're not

no respect

[boreal needle]

am i a semigroup

[prisma wave]

maybe

[boreal needle]

you can combine me with

uhm

water

and then you get a panic-induced breakdown?

does that count

[prisma wave]

maybe

close enough ig

[steel heart]

is this a monad then?

[prisma wave]

depends how much you stretch the definition

[prisma wave]

yes

monad = unit + bind

any type that follows that pattern (+ a few more specific laws) is a monad

[steel heart]

I got a headache but thanks

[prisma wave]

understandable

it's not very nice in java anyway

not even circlejerking

it's just not pretty

[steel heart]

example looks extremely verbose

[prisma wave]

i mean that's just java

[obtuse gale]

Wait so

[lunar cypress]

If you apply the panic induced breakdown to yourself twice, do you get yourself again? then you're a semigroup

[obtuse gale]

Is an Optional a monad?

[cinder flare]

yoooO!

[prisma wave]

i believe so

[lunar cypress]

yes

[obtuse gale]

:o

[prisma wave]

ive always said it is but i have no idea if it satisfies the more specific laws

[steel heart]

o:

[prisma wave]

probably

[cinder flare]

is the apply function like it is in scala

[boreal needle]

i basically am a panic-induced breakdown so i guess?

[prisma wave]

thats just java function interface

[cinder flare]

oh I see

[prisma wave]

.apply(a) = f(a)

[cinder flare]

java lame

[prisma wave]

😌

[obtuse gale]

Yeah it's just function invocation

[prisma wave]

😌

[rotund egret]

Man I just started using import aliases, bless 👌

[ocean quartz]

It's godly 😩

[rotund egret]

JDA's embed builder requires a boolean as one of it's field, is there a way for me to specify a default value in my code so I don't have to have like 50 "trues"?

[cinder flare]

make a wrapper method that passes exactly the same args but with true?

[rotund egret]

Do you have an example of what that might look like?

[cinder flare]

literally just the function but with one less parameter that calls the other function of the same name with the true built in

[rotund egret]

Oh shit yeah that makes sense

[cinder flare]

You also see a lot of those to maintain backwards compatability if you change a function, you just leave the old one and it calls the new one with a set of default arguments

[prisma wave]

CURRYING

[cinder flare]

lmao

[prisma wave]

https://youtu.be/Bxel30L6C5U

Love it

Scala clojure and haskell

😌 😌

[lunar cypress]

I'm really in every comment section KEKW

[prisma wave]

lmao

small world

[lunar cypress]

but yeah that was a nice video

[cinder flare]

awe yeah he uses rainbow brackets

i like this guy already

[gusty glen]

@prisma wave between haskell and clojure, which one do you prefer?

[prisma wave]

haskell

[cinder flare]

probably haskell

clojure has too many parens

[prisma wave]

it's a bit of an unfair comparison

i havent used clojure enough to be able to make a fair judgement on it

[cinder flare]

yeah true, clojure is literally a lisp derivative

[lunar cypress]

vouch for clojure

[gusty glen]

I heard that lisp sucks (bcz of parenthesis), I even have a meme saved on my pc, lemme post it here

[lunar cypress]

lisp just does it better

™️

[prisma wave]

nah parens are fine

[gusty glen]

(open in browser)

[prisma wave]

you get used to the parens after like, 30 minutes of using the language

ik it's the meme

but i wouldnt say thats a proper criticism

[lunar cypress]

to go back to an old meme that was created on this server

[prisma wave]

😌

ahh the good old days

the kotlin gang vs the clojure gang

well

clojure person*

[lunar cypress]

aka

sxtanna vs me

[prisma wave]

yes precisely

[gusty glen]

🥲

[prisma wave]

ohhhhhhhhhhhh i think i remember when you made that meme now

you were having some big argument discussion about infix vs prefix or something

[gusty glen]

both are good

[lunar cypress]

yes

[gusty glen]

do you know what is not good though? suffix!

[prisma wave]

reverse polish notation 😌

[lunar cypress]

sxtanna was arguing that infix is objectively better because it is preferred by the nature of human beings

[prisma wave]

ah yeah

[lunar cypress]

which he had no evidence for 🤷

[obtuse gale]

classic sx

[gusty glen]

haskell be like 1 ``f`` 2 (gotta bear the double `)

[prisma wave]

objectively

[ocean quartz]

Ah good times when everything would turn into an argument

[prisma wave]

i distinctly remember you having an argument with sxtanna about something within about 3 days of joining the server lmao

[forest pecan]

who

[prisma wave]

johnny

[forest pecan]

lol

[lunar cypress]

but seriously, on the topic of parens, it's really just an aesthetic thing. You'll usually break even with other languages in absolute parentheses count

At least in Clojure

[prisma wave]

except REAL languages where you don't need to use parens 😌

oh wait serious

yeah

[lunar cypress]

Because it has a bit more data structures in its syntax

But you do use them for a lot, that is true

[prisma wave]

like you said theoretically it would be no different overall tho

(f (g b)) is the same amount of parens as f(g(b))

[lunar cypress]

Yeah, it's the density I suppose. And the fact that you group closing parens

[forest pecan]

md5

[prisma wave]

yeah that's definitely different

[forest pecan]

formatting

if ( true != true )

[lunar cypress]

(defn foo [one two]
  (+ one two)
)```like you don't do this

[prisma wave]

😌

annoyingly my experience of clojure generally gets ruined by the horrific COC editor

[ocean quartz]

Oh god imagine md writing in clojure

( defn foo [ one two ]
  ( + one two )
)

[forest pecan]

lol

[lunar cypress]

@prisma wave do you have clojure installed currently?

[prisma wave]

i think so

[lunar cypress]

I discovered something yesterday that I want you to evaluate in a repl

``````user

[prisma wave]

🤨

1 second

[obtuse gale]

🥲

[prisma wave]

how do i actually start a repl

i forgot

[lunar cypress]

clj

[prisma wave]

oh

nvm

i did lein repl and that worked

just took a while

[lunar cypress]

lein do be slow

[prisma wave]

oh my god

[lunar cypress]

Do you see the beauty

[prisma wave]

please explain

[lunar cypress]

I have literally no idea

I do not know what this is

[prisma wave]

😟

[lunar cypress]

I know the single ` but I'm clueless

[prisma wave]

i guess that stacks up in some cursed factorial-like way or something?

removing each quote seems to cause a big decrease

[lunar cypress]

yeah

Idk where all these lists come from though

[prisma wave]

maybe due to how quotes are implemented?

perhaps because it returns a function call / list

idk

[lunar cypress]

` on user returns user/user
` on a qualified symbol returns (quote symbol)
now ` qualifies all of that again

and so on

probably goes like this

[prisma wave]

makes sense

sorta

[dense dew]

Hi Mr. Mitten! Thanks for your daily reminder, I will not lose myself today!

[prisma wave]

sorry what

[obtuse gale]

@prisma wave !!

[dense dew]

Thank you!

[prisma wave]

you're welcome! (?)

[dense dew]

[prisma wave]

ok

[half harness]

Hi Mr. Mitten! Thanks for your daily reminder, I will lose myself today!

[obtuse gale]

dkim: i DoNt CoPy OtHeRs
also dkim: ^

[prisma wave]

K I'm sorry I had to send this to you but now that you have opened it you can't stopped reading this. Hi my name is Teresa Fidlago I died 27 years. If you don't send this to 20 people I will sleep by your side forever. If you don't believe me search me up. Teresa Fidlago. So send this to 20 people. A girl ignored this and her mom died 20 days later. NO SEND BACKS!!!! #copied. Sorry I had to send this. Btw this is not fake search her up on google. Someone send me this and i had to do the same, i’m taking no risk of ignoring this message tell me why this keeps happening. another grandma read this and sent it to 20 people but the internet went of on 19. She was found cut into 5 pieces after 1 day. Make sure you send all 20

Help!!!!!! PLZ what is this plz im sorry if this is bad frowning

[obtuse gale]

Fer·nan·do Pó·o

Fer·nan·do Pó·ov

[dense dew]

K I'm sorry I had to send this to you but now that you have opened it you can't stopped reading this. Hi my name is Teresa Fidlago I died 27 years. If you don't send this to 20 people I will sleep by your side forever. If you don't believe me search me up. Teresa Fidlago. So send this to 20 people. A girl ignored this and her mom died 20 days later. NO SEND BACKS!!!! #copied. Sorry I had to send this. Btw this is not fake search her up on google. Someone send me this and i had to do the same, i’m taking no risk of ignoring this message tell me why this keeps happening. another grandma read this and sent it to 20 people but the internet went of on 19. She was found cut into 5 pieces after 1 day. Make sure you send all 20

Help!!!!!! PLZ what is this plz im sorry if this is bad frowning

[frail glade]

Can we not?

[ocean quartz]

Bm, why..

[half harness]

oh

waffle king

can i do multi

[prisma wave]

The content on the paper looks accurate when it comes to "characteristics", and the edits on the wording make it sound nicer.
I can not think of something I would like to edit, especially because the wording is something I struggle myself. I think the paper looks really good.
Good job, and thank you.

oh

[half harness]

after bm stops*

[prisma wave]

soz

[half harness]

🥲

[prisma wave]

It's one of the great helpchat copypastas

[lunar cypress]

"Staff Team" LULW

[half harness]

waffke king left me D:

[prisma wave]

I was never told I wasn't allowed to warn people about Teresa Fidlago

(A girl ignored this and her mom died 20 days later!)

You should be thanking me

[obtuse gale]

inb4 #dev-general message

[prisma wave]

😌

[ocean quartz]

• Don't spam. It doesn't help.

[prisma wave]

I didn't spam ☹️

only posted it once

[ocean quartz]

With a message asking people to post it more, resulting in spam

[half harness]

dkim for staff

i dont break the rules

unlike bm

🙂

[prisma wave]

Oh I didn't actually read it

#dev-general message

[lunar cypress]

you can't just keep us from sharing this message

what if I wake up tomorrow and I'm cut into 5 pieces

that would suck

[prisma wave]

Yeah man that's what I'm trying to say

I don't want my mom to die!

[onyx loom]

🥲

[forest pecan]

who would you filet you up

[prisma wave]

Teresa Fidlago

Obviously

[onyx loom]

😟

[prisma wave]

Have you shared it to 20 people yet???

You don't have long left bro

[onyx loom]

uh of course

i wouldnt want my mom to die at all either

[prisma wave]

Ok we will see in the morning

[dawn hinge]

Does imaginary people work too

[prisma wave]

Idk

Not worth the risk imo

A grandma read this and sent it to 20 people but the internet went of at 19

We all know what happened next

[onyx loom]

teresa is very unforgiving

[cinder flare]

bro can spigot be any slower

it just took my spigot server like 3 minutes to startup

[onyx loom]

bad pc

[cinder flare]

no dude it takes paper 3 seconds to startup

[prisma wave]

sounds like you should be doing something productive in that time

For example sending the copy pasta to 20 people

[cinder flare]

yea I'm watching the Context Free guy

[prisma wave]

NOT 19

oh that's, okay, I guess

[cinder flare]

plus it waits a whole 20 seconds to remind you that you're outdated

I guess it is a good warning but goddamn

[onyx loom]

u can disable that

[cinder flare]

i don't got time

im zoomin

[half harness]

its a jvm flag

[prisma wave]

By not being outdated

[cinder flare]

ill be on paper in the next few days anyways

[prisma wave]

😌

[onyx loom]

true

[half harness]

craftbukkit ftw

[cinder flare]

[16:47:44] [Server thread/INFO]: 1 placeholder hooks successfully registered!
[16:47:44] [Server thread/INFO]: [PlaceholderAPI] An update for PlaceholderAPI (v2.10.9) is available at:
[16:47:44] [Server thread/INFO]: [PlaceholderAPI] https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/placeholderapi.6245/```

🥲

[onyx loom]

yeah yeah mr "i love 1.8"

[cinder flare]

looks like an update is available for papi boys

[prisma wave]

hello i am lookin for yatopia spigot 1.6.4 where cn I find it

[onyx loom]

im guessing ur using dev version

[cinder flare]

[16:47:40] [Server thread/INFO]: [PlaceholderAPI] Enabling PlaceholderAPI v2.10.10-DEV-null
[16:47:40] [Server thread/INFO]: [PlaceholderAPI] Fetching available expansion information...```

[onyx loom]

ye

[cinder flare]

the downsides of being bleeding edge

[prisma wave]

The downsides of bad version comparing

Smh my smh

[cinder flare]

wow the duality of plugins, TNE thanks me for using a prerelease, while PAPI tries to get me to downgrade

[frail glade]

[cinder flare]

damn dude Guice is a thicc boi

adds 2.8MB to my jar size

[humble silo]

Is there not a slimmed version?

[cinder flare]

i don't think so?

[onyx loom]

guice is already in the server jar if this is the plugin u were working on the other day

[cinder flare]

bruh what

[onyx loom]

iirc anyway

[cinder flare]

then why is it taking up 2.8MB of my jar

https://i.imgur.com/CQqldGN.png

also why is there an SSL cert in there

[onyx loom]

ah my bad im confusing it with guava

[humble silo]

Oh wow, for something that big thats surprising

[cinder flare]

@quiet depot what do you do about it

[quiet depot]

exclude guava as a dep from fyice

[cinder flare]

i have guava?

[quiet depot]

implementation(“com.google.inject:guice:5.0.1”) {
    exclude group: “com.google.guava”, module: “guava”
}```

i think that’s how u do ot

[cinder flare]

com.google.guava ain't in my jar

[quiet depot]

that might noe be the right package

[cinder flare]

com.google.common, com.google.inject, com.google.thirdparty

[quiet depot]

common

but that doesn’t matter

ur excluding a dependency

not a package

it’s guava’s artifact id

[obtuse gale]

“”
this is how you tell someone is on their phone

[cinder flare]

okay so how do I do that on maven 👀

[quiet depot]

fuck you

[obtuse gale]

hhhhhhhhhhhhh

[cinder flare]

ugh i don't want to swap right now

i just want to publish a release

[quiet depot]

u have to add like 30 lines of plugin configuration

[obtuse gale]

<dependency>
  <excludes>
    <exclude>
      <groupId>...
      <artifactId>...
``` or something

[quiet depot]

this is where gradle excels

[cinder flare]

alright alright

[quiet depot]

oh

k that’s not that hard ig

[cinder flare]

also is server-ssl-cert.pem fine?

[obtuse gale]

still

gradle ftw

[cinder flare]

is that like jar signing or something

[quiet depot]

excluding guava will probs get rid of that

[cinder flare]

ah nice stupid guava

woah there's a gradle 7.1 now

does the server have a mariadb/mysql driver in it

or do I need to shade that

[frail glade]

Server being Bukkit?

[cinder flare]

yea

[frail glade]

It has a MySQL driver

[cinder flare]

okay nice so make that bad boy a compileonly then?

[half harness]

piggggyyy

waffle king

[quiet depot]

wat

[half harness]

when can i get multi 🥺

[quiet depot]

now

do u want it now

[half harness]

sure

😄

🎉

[quiet depot]

=multi spin

[compact perch]

New XP Multiplier...

The global multiplier has been updated! - Expires in 1 Hour!

[cinder flare]

oh shit a 6

[half harness]

pog

[cinder flare]

hurry boys let's have a conversation

[half harness]

uh

hi

hows ur day @cinder flare ?

[cinder flare]

uh pretty poppin

[half harness]

oof i should have done it when chat more active

lol

[cinder flare]

did some git history rewriting

was kinda funky

[half harness]

wdym rewriting?

[cinder flare]

changed my old account's commits to my new account's commits

[onyx loom]

man

i want to go to sleep, not a multi

[half harness]

lmao

[cinder flare]

yeah kinda same

i kinda woke up at like 9pm last night

it is now 5:30 am for reference

[onyx loom]

o how did u do that

i recently changed my git email

[cinder flare]

very carefully following https://stackoverflow.com/questions/750172/how-to-change-the-author-and-committer-name-and-e-mail-of-multiple-commits-in-gi

[half harness]

wasted boost? 🥲

[cinder flare]

specifically bash git filter-branch --commit-filter ' if [ "$GIT_COMMITTER_NAME" = "<Old Name>" ]; then GIT_COMMITTER_NAME="<New Name>"; GIT_AUTHOR_NAME="<New Name>"; GIT_COMMITTER_EMAIL="<New Email>"; GIT_AUTHOR_EMAIL="<New Email>"; git commit-tree "$@"; else git commit-tree "$@"; fi' HEAD

[cinder flare]

i'll persist

[half harness]

xD

[cinder flare]

I need to get to top 20, that's like #1 priority

[half harness]

how do u see lb?

[cinder flare]

lb?

[half harness]

leaderboard

[cinder flare]

=leaderboard

[half harness]

🥲

[cinder flare]

not that

=lb

[half harness]

lol

[onyx loom]

=xp lb

[compact perch]

XP Leaderboard:

See even more top users through the online leaderboard.

[half harness]

ah

ty

[cinder flare]

okay kali big smart

[onyx loom]

level 49 just to be in top 20 😩

[half harness]

lets go, #18

[cinder flare]

looks like I'm about 53k xp away

think we can grind that out with my 8x multiplier in the next hour lmao

[half harness]

8x?

[onyx loom]

man when i was in top 20 ud only need like level 25, just 1 year ago

[cinder flare]

you get +2x for boosting

[half harness]

oh

[cinder flare]

yeah then people like me joined 🙃

[half harness]

ripppp

oh wait

ur #4

oh wow

[cinder flare]

remember that one time I obtained 10% of ALL total experience in the April 1st games

[onyx loom]

almost 3

[cinder flare]

i singlehandedly won the game for blue team lmao

[half harness]

but so many people were on blue team so green got more xp 😭

[cinder flare]

yes I know, suffering from success

[onyx loom]

rigged

[half harness]

i wonder when brister mitten will reach 1mil xp

[cinder flare]

mister britten

my xp hero

[onyx loom]

very soon

altho he doesnt have nitro anymore

[forest pecan]

bm

[onyx loom]

so no pay to win for him 🙂

[old wyvern]

Sad

[forest pecan]

why dont you lend me 8892 xp

i will be tier 5

[cinder flare]

just start talking pulse

6x multiplier

[old wyvern]

Discord patched the virtual credit card exploit

😔

[onyx loom]

hm?

[forest pecan]

Oh right now?

[cinder flare]

yessir

[forest pecan]

someone boosted?

oh who

[old wyvern]

6x?

[cinder flare]

dkim redeemed his

[forest pecan]

Oh lol

[old wyvern]

oh screw you barry

[onyx loom]

=multi

[forest pecan]

@half harness

[compact perch]

Your XP Multiplier:

[onyx loom]

i got u yugi 💯

[cinder flare]

#dev-general message

[half harness]

hi

[onyx loom]

abusing my powers

[half harness]

what happened

i was afk

[forest pecan]

Oh wow 6x

[old wyvern]

😉

[half harness]

8x for boosters 😏

[old wyvern]

How did it become 8x tho

oh

[onyx loom]

yeah hehe

[forest pecan]

we are strong men

we dont need to boost

[half harness]

smH

[old wyvern]

😌

[forest pecan]

Strong men unite

[cinder flare]

boost gang

[old wyvern]

Boost hackers

[forest pecan]

boosters are weak people

cant talk !!!

we are strong

tough

[onyx loom]

[old wyvern]

We normals worked our way up!

[forest pecan]

Yes

[cinder flare]

says the guy who is still Tier IV smh

[forest pecan]

we are the nons!

[old wyvern]

hard earned xp

[onyx loom]

im sure u did

[forest pecan]

Hey

I am almost tier 5

I will be up there soon

and there will be no competition

then you can suffer with me

[old wyvern]

Says the guy who hacked his way to t5 with boosts 😫

[obtuse gale]

Oh what

[half harness]

imagine not being tier 6

[obtuse gale]

There's a multi

[half harness]

6x

[onyx loom]

indeed

[half harness]

8x w/ booster

[onyx loom]

start talking

[forest pecan]

Literally makes no sense dkim should be literally tier 4

lmao

[cinder flare]

oh man I probably gained the most xp in the shortest time in the history of this server

[forest pecan]

How is he tier 6

[half harness]

WRONG

[old wyvern]

xD

[forest pecan]

Facts

Lmao

[old wyvern]

bm did actually I think

[half harness]

Opinions

[forest pecan]

nop

[old wyvern]

He was tier 3 or something when I joined

[half harness]

Proof?

[old wyvern]

Now hes at like tier 7 or 8

[forest pecan]

+1 if dkim should be at tier 4 right now

[half harness]

[cinder flare]

hmmm I dunno

[old wyvern]

:plusOne:

[cinder flare]

i gained a lot of levels p fast

[obtuse gale]

Damn okay, @cinder flare, you, me, tomorrow morning, 14.30 UTC, vc 👀

[half harness]

what

[cinder flare]

what

2:30pm utc

hmm

[old wyvern]

The team thing

[forest pecan]

how good is your aim Star

[cinder flare]

in what regard

[half harness]

what

[forest pecan]

do you go for bulls eye

maximum dominance

or are you little man

[old wyvern]

poor bull

[onyx loom]

i swear that would be like 6:30 for star

[cinder flare]

in what scenario

[forest pecan]

go on the side

you know what i mean

[obtuse gale]

Uh

Yes

[cinder flare]

ew that's 8:30 am

[old wyvern]

peeing I think from what hes saying

[obtuse gale]

Wait where tf do you live

Lmao

[onyx loom]

.close enough

[cinder flare]

mountain gang

[onyx loom]

still way too early in the morning 😩

[quiet depot]

was modded a success

[onyx loom]

no

[forest pecan]

Look in console

[cinder flare]

for a minute

[forest pecan]

lmao

[old wyvern]

What modded?

[cinder flare]

nobody would get in vc and talk to me

[forest pecan]

Hey

[quiet depot]

what happened

[forest pecan]

I did

Star

[cinder flare]

BM and I had a great time, SenseiJu was there for a sec too

[old wyvern]

Wha?

[cinder flare]

Pulse just got on his macbook

[obtuse gale]

Well I wanna fix that :(

[old wyvern]

Did I miss some event?

[forest pecan]

i built this

thing

[quiet depot]

?

[cinder flare]

we bullied Pig into making a PO3 server for us

[half harness]

MAC

[forest pecan]

on the server lmao

[old wyvern]

PO3?

[forest pecan]

school computer

[cinder flare]

project ozone 3

[onyx loom]

some mod

[quiet depot]

so what went wrong

[old wyvern]

Is it still up?

[cinder flare]

everyone left

[forest pecan]

nothing went wrong

[cinder flare]

modpacks are fun when you're playing with your homies

[old wyvern]

aww I missed it

[quiet depot]

modpacks are fun single player too imp

[obtuse gale]

Except my internet hates Minecraft and I can't connect

[cinder flare]

nah not imo

[quiet depot]

it’s still up yugi

[old wyvern]

ohhh

ip?

[quiet depot]

i can’t add u rn

[obtuse gale]

[REDACTED]

[cinder flare]

give it some time Pig

[old wyvern]

oh whitelisted

[ocean quartz]

We didn't really like the modpack, sorry about that

[cinder flare]

what modpack did you want

i didn't choose it

[quiet depot]

what modpack then

[forest pecan]

lol 5 man skyfactory

xD

imagine that

[old wyvern]

Vanilla
#dev-general SMP

[forest pecan]

that would be chaos

[quiet depot]

yikes

[half harness]

Anarchy >:)

[cinder flare]

dude if we had 5 people who could all play together, I'd totally do it

[quiet depot]

vanilla is so boring

[old wyvern]

Only t3+

[onyx loom]

yeah and look how great smp went last time 🥲

lasted like 1 month

[old wyvern]

🥲

[quiet depot]

I don’t understand how

[forest pecan]

try my modpack

[old wyvern]

how what?

[forest pecan]

it has 590 mods

[quiet depot]

I honestly don’t understand the attraction of smps

I get bored on them so easily

can only play modded for long periods of time

[ocean quartz]

There were too many mods
We normally don't do specific modpack just choose a bunch of mods we like and put them together
Though anything with ice and fire is pretty fun

[old wyvern]

I dont enjoy mc in anyway on singleplayer

[half harness]

pvp ftw

[forest pecan]

stfu

nobody cares

[half harness]

ok

[forest pecan]

only you dkim

lol

/s

[onyx loom]

this

[old wyvern]

idm if its pvp or whatever

[half harness]

🤔

[old wyvern]

I just want other people on

[forest pecan]

its just so lonely

[old wyvern]

Yea

[forest pecan]

and feels so depressing

i cant handle it lmao

[old wyvern]

I play for 5 mins and get bored

[cinder flare]

    implementation("com.google.inject:guice:5.0.1") {
        exclude("com.google.guava:guava")
    }```

[forest pecan]

then the music comes in

[cinder flare]

so that didn't change the jar file size

[old wyvern]

What is the size rn?

[cinder flare]

3.8MB

[ocean quartz]

SlimJar would 😌

[old wyvern]

I know exactly what you want sir

[old wyvern]

^

[cinder flare]

see but I bet I don't need all the shit that I have

[old wyvern]

😌

link build file

[onyx loom]

are u minimising the jar also?

[forest pecan]

Slimjar? I feel like we need that in America

[cinder flare]

what that mean

[old wyvern]

ooo, burn

[cinder flare]

plugins {
    java
    id("com.github.johnrengelman.shadow") version "7.0.0"
}

repositories {
    mavenLocal()
    maven("https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/repositories/snapshots/")
    maven("https://oss.sonatype.org/content/groups/public/")
    maven("https://jitpack.io")
    maven("https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/")
}

dependencies {
    compileOnly("org.mariadb.jdbc:mariadb-java-client:2.6.2")
    compileOnly("org.jetbrains:annotations:19.0.0")
    implementation("com.google.inject:guice:5.0.1") {
        exclude("com.google.guava:guava")
    }
    compileOnly("org.spigotmc:spigot-api:1.17-R0.1-SNAPSHOT")
    compileOnly("com.github.MilkBowl:VaultAPI:1.7")
}

group = "me.gtc3ch1.betterlife"
version = "1.0"
description = "BetterLife"
java.sourceCompatibility = JavaVersion.VERSION_16

tasks {
    withType<com.github.jengelman.gradle.plugins.shadow.tasks.ShadowJar> {
        archiveFileName.set(rootProject.name + ".jar")
        exclude("META-INF/**")
    }

    withType<JavaCompile> {
        options.encoding = "UTF-8"
    }
}

[onyx loom]

shadowJar { minimize() }

[old wyvern]

shadowJar has a minimize option

removes unreferences classes

[steel heart]

sure

[cinder flare]

ok well how do that

[forest pecan]

minimize all that mcdonalds beef going into your mouth

[old wyvern]

But it screws up if you're using reflection a lot

[cinder flare]

I am not

[old wyvern]

then you're fine with minimizing

[cinder flare]

unless Guice is

I'm not doing any reflecting myself

[old wyvern]

Guice does do quite a bit

but idk, give it a shot

[onyx loom]

^

[cinder flare]

how

[onyx loom]

.

[cinder flare]

in KTS?

[onyx loom]

can sometimes bring the size down a lot

in kts it should be the same, if not minimal changes

[cinder flare]

ok let's try boys

[half harness]

shadowJar.minimize() 😌

[old wyvern]

tasks.withType<ShadowJar> {
   minimize()
}

[cinder flare]

ah we're down to 2.2MB

[onyx loom]

decent

[quiet depot]

no

pls

star

[cinder flare]

??

[quiet depot]

that exclude doesn’t look right

i don’t think u can use shorthand for it

[cinder flare]

you gave me it in groovy mate

[quiet depot]

that’s not what I gave you…

[cinder flare]

you gave me groovy

i had to convert to kts

[quiet depot]

o

[onyx loom]

shouldve converted the whole buildscript to groovy 😌

[quiet depot]

well groovy > gradle kts

[old wyvern]

Why is he excluding the META-INF?

[forest pecan]

withType<com.github.jengelman.gradle.plugins.shadow.tasks.ShadowJar> import the class

lol

[onyx loom]

LETS GO PIGGY

[cinder flare]

no

[onyx loom]

😌 😌 😌 😌

[cinder flare]

cause it always gives me a little warning that multiple things have meta inf

[old wyvern]

ah

[cinder flare]

it puts a meta inf in anyways

[obtuse gale]

exclude("groupId", "artifactId")

[cinder flare]

oh do I put that in the shadowjar task

[onyx loom]

that would be for ur dependency

[old wyvern]

I finished my 5 days course for my drivers license, theory test tmr 😄

[onyx loom]

so for guava exclusion

[quiet depot]

replace the exclude I gave u with the one emilyy gave u

[forest pecan]

dont fail

[cinder flare]

exclude("com.google.guava", "guava")?

[onyx loom]

good luckerino

[quiet depot]

yee haw

[old wyvern]

lmao

[cinder flare]

bro hurry how far from a stop sign are you supposed to slow down, 100ft, 200ft, or 500ft???

[old wyvern]

feets?

What

[onyx loom]

🥲

[cinder flare]

yea that's what the theory test was for me

stupid shit like that that don't actually matter

[old wyvern]

we dont use fts

[cinder flare]

whatever, the equivalent meters

[onyx loom]

real countries use metric 🥲

[half harness]

lol

[cinder flare]

30m, 50m, or 100m?

[old wyvern]

Yea I dont think it specified it in the course anyway

[cinder flare]

lucky

[old wyvern]

It only mentioned distance between a vehicle and a heavy vehicle

50m

[cinder flare]

WOAH

810KB

damn piggy you are one smart piece of bacon

[old wyvern]

ayy

[onyx loom]

guava thicc

[old wyvern]

guava is shaded in spigot right?

or was that something else?

[onyx loom]

yes

[cinder flare]

from what I hear yea

[old wyvern]

ah

[cinder flare]

holy shit the last release was 4.5MB

who let this guy write plugins

[old wyvern]

Quick add in a virus

[cinder flare]

https://i.imgur.com/iTRjuOB.png

mmm 154fps

oh only 140 in that pic

[old wyvern]

1.17 optifine is out?

[onyx loom]

previews

[cinder flare]

prerelease builds

[old wyvern]

ah

lemme try

[cinder flare]

woah crouching doesn't cancel your sprint

how long has that been a thing

[old wyvern]

wait what

[onyx loom]

eh?

[old wyvern]

It wasnt a thing in last version

Man I hate the new launcher

[cinder flare]

or at least, it doesn't change your fov back

[old wyvern]

Switching versions is a pain

[cinder flare]

not really? you just click like twice on the little selector

[onyx loom]

do u have dynamic fov on?

[cinder flare]

yea obv

[old wyvern]

No, you go to the installation section and change it there

earlier it was just a popup next to the play btn

[onyx loom]

wha

[cinder flare]

wtf are you talking about

https://i.imgur.com/wOOP4y0.png

[onyx loom]

u only need to touch installations when installing a new version

[cinder flare]

you just click the optifine thingy

[old wyvern]

Bottom left selection is not version

Thatsthe profile

[cinder flare]

yea

you don't already have profiles for all the versions you use?

[old wyvern]

Im not talking about switching profiles

[cinder flare]

you should be

[old wyvern]

No, I dont play much anymore

[cinder flare]

that's how you utilize the new launcher correctly

[onyx loom]

thats like the main reasons theyre there for lol

[old wyvern]

🤷

[onyx loom]

smh my head my head

[ocean quartz]

Oh, there is still a multi going

[old wyvern]

I only had a single profile even in the old one

[ocean quartz]

Uh

Haskell is bad!

[old wyvern]

WHAT

Sir

You

Need

To stop taking drugs

[ocean quartz]

Mutability is great!

[half harness]

🤣

[old wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/control-freak-control-i-need-control-doctor-strange-benedict-cumberbatch-gif-11191866

[cinder flare]

okay I have done some scientific studies

and it turns out that the sprinting crouch thing is only an fov change

[ocean quartz]

Lmao, aight we can argue about something else, don't wanna give Yugi a heart attack

[old wyvern]

😂

[half harness]

Haskell is good

[old wyvern]

Yes

[half harness]

Kotlin is good

[old wyvern]

Haskell is the key to enlightenment

Kotlin is the anti-christ

[half harness]

Haskell < Java < Kotlin

change my mind 😌

[ocean quartz]

Those russians and their programming language!

[old wyvern]

Haskell >

[old wyvern]

Mutation bad, you will continue to think that haskell is the best

[half harness]

mutation good

[old wyvern]

Suck it, evil-doer

1.17 didnt change the bottom height either right?

[onyx loom]

hm?

[old wyvern]

bottom*

[cinder flare]

yeah it did

or wait did it

I think it made it so it can be negative

though that might be a 1.18 thing

[old wyvern]

It didnt 🥲

[cinder flare]

really?

[cinder flare]

i swear I read a whole thing about the paper devs patches that you need to change the min and max worldheight

yes it did you literally have -.1

[onyx loom]

world is still 0

[old wyvern]

I assumed they only moved the cliffs to 1.18

[onyx loom]

yes

[cinder flare]

oh yeah worldgen is still 0

but the height can be below 0 now p sure

[old wyvern]

wdym?

I cant build below 0, no

[cinder flare]

nope okay

that's a 1.18 thing then

[old wyvern]

rip

[obtuse gale]

Isn't there a datapack you can add for that?

[old wyvern]

no idea

[cinder flare]

wait guys there's a booster

my sweet, sweet xp

how I desire it so

[obtuse gale]

Indeed

🥲

Why is it when there's a multi everyone just stops talking hahahaha

Every time

[cinder flare]

bro where's the timings parser

[obtuse gale]

The what now?

[ocean quartz]

Probably bad timing xD

[cinder flare]

timings

from a minecraft server

[onyx loom]

yes indeed. the feeling of gaining "experience points" on the server "Help Chat" using the Discord social media platform, is nothing more than sensational. The rush that it gives me is the thing that keeps me living. oh i love you experience points 😌

[cinder flare]

where to put them

so that I understand them

[obtuse gale]

Oh the /perf or whatever?

[cinder flare]

no

the /timings

[obtuse gale]

Don't you just read that off of a website?

Or you can save it locally?

[cinder flare]

it put it in a file called timings.txt for me

[obtuse gale]

wat

tf did you run

[cinder flare]

/timings on

/timings report

[ocean quartz]

Use Spark

[obtuse gale]

lucko/spark 😌

[ocean quartz]

😌

[obtuse gale]

lucko/.* 🤤

[old wyvern]

luck made spark?

[ocean quartz]

Yeah

[old wyvern]

oh for some reason I thought it was aikar

[cinder flare]

ah nice you just do /timings paste and it gives you a little url

that is having a hard time loading apparently

[obtuse gale]

i never had to do that

just timings report

whatever 🤷‍♀️

[cinder flare]

timings report puts it in a file silly

[ocean quartz]

I always did just /timings paste didn't even know there was report

[cinder flare]

maybe it's different on paper

[obtuse gale]

oh you're on spigot

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[cinder flare]

yeah you think I'm on paper 1.17?

that kinda doesn't exist yet

[obtuse gale]

idk it's been too many months since i last used timings for me to remember

[ocean quartz]

Kek

[obtuse gale]

Matt did you just edit the message to change the capitalization?

it just went from kek -> Kek