dev-general

[forest pecan]

fast to reject?

/s

[obtuse gale]

not as fast as she rejected you

[onyx loom]

no /s, its facts 🌚

[forest pecan]

i thought this was going to be way worse than what you just said

lol

[ocean quartz]

@static zealot Before I start reviewing, might wanna add private set to your lateinit xD

[obtuse gale]

🌞

[old wyvern]

🌞

[prisma wave]

[obtuse gale]

https://kapwi.ng/c/cuEjnTJD

[steel heart]

lol

[prisma wave]

shut THE FUCK UP

[onyx loom]

🌞

[obtuse gale]

🌞

[static zealot]

what if I don't want to?

I'm funny guys. look

[obtuse gale]

@quiet depot thoughts? https://imgur.com/a/fndsKWm

[tender cargo]

i think compact mode

[ocean quartz]

"Blocked message." 🌞

[obtuse gale]

yeah that's frostalf lol

Program Barry a lot of new things.  (Part 1)

Requests

<=========================================>

1. Close requests after a certain amount of time.

2. Add a reaction to requests that will message the person that sent the request "(User) would like to do (Request)" React to deny or accept an offer (if you choose to deny list a reason).

Barry then messages the guy who offered to do the request if his offer was accepted or denied.

3.Add reactions that close/reopen requests

Formatting

<=========================================>

1. Change the rules for [budget] you should be allowed to offer % of profit, services in return, and a range of money

2. for [service] you should have to select a service from a list or the request will be invalid.

3. Regarding suggest above you should be able to search request by [service]

what

Program Barry a lot of new things.  (Part 2)

Channels

<=========================================>

1.Please make a suggestions channel

2.Please change offer services so you can do "[portfolio] (Link here) [category] (Design, Program, Web services, etc)" You can search for people who can do your request by doing /portfolio (category)

3.Regarding the previous suggestion make temporary channels for people who do /portfolio msg Example#1234.

4.Add some emojis to channel names.

5.Make a "Server Help" channel and a "Website Help" channel

6.Recommendations channel where you @ someone and list their service and quality.

7.Report channel for scammers

8. Remove general-plugins-2

Other

<=========================================>

1. Allow sending images and barry bot then links to that image and adds 30-second cooldown.

2. Make bronze, silver, and gold roles. For example under #role-request under artist if you have 10+ examples you get bronze artist if you have 25+ examples you get silver artist if you have 50+ examples you get gold artist

3. FAQ responses for example "How do I make a discord bot" Barry would reply "Here is a list of good instructions (link)"

the fuck

please use a paste site k thx

Delete your message that says what pls so it looks cleaner

no

use a paste site

[static zealot]

lmao

[obtuse gale]

I cant or else nobody will read suggestion

But ill try it

why wouldn't they

[static zealot]

1. Requests are closed after some time already

at the start of the month lmao

[prisma wave]

Program Barry a lot of new things.  (Part 2)

Channels

<=========================================>

1.Please make a suggestions channel

2.Please change offer services so you can do "[portfolio] (Link here) [category] (Design, Program, Web services, etc)" You can search for people who can do your request by doing /portfolio (category)

3.Regarding the previous suggestion make temporary channels for people who do /portfolio msg Example#1234.

4.Add some emojis to channel names.

5.Make a "Server Help" channel and a "Website Help" channel

6.Recommendations channel where you @ someone and list their service and quality.

7.Report channel for scammers

8. Remove general-plugins-2

Other

<=========================================>

1. Allow sending images and barry bot then links to that image and adds 30-second cooldown.

2. Make bronze, silver, and gold roles. For example under #role-request under artist if you have 10+ examples you get bronze artist if you have 25+ examples you get silver artist if you have 50+ examples you get gold artist

3. FAQ responses for example "How do I make a discord bot" Barry would reply "Here is a list of good instructions (link)"

[static zealot]

so anywhere from 1 to 30

days

[obtuse gale]

I would actually read the paste link over the spam you're pasting here

[static zealot]

stop please

[static zealot]

same

[obtuse gale]

Ok ill use pastechat

[prisma wave]

Program Barry a lot of new things

[obtuse gale]

sorry

[static zealot]

just put it in a paste bin please

?paste

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

Paste Services
When asking for help with a config/menu/code issue please use our paste bin:
(we prefer it over pastebin.com)
• HelpChat Paste - How To Use

Requested by: BlitzOffline • paste

[obtuse gale]

i meant pastebin sry

[prisma wave]

Fer·nan·do Pó·ov

[obtuse gale]

Tell me if this link works https://pastebin.com/dmnhAGFx

It works for me

[compact perch]

📋 Paste Converted!

https://paste.helpch.at/idipigiwej

A member of staff has requested I move your pastebin.com paste to our paste.helpch.at!

Why? - Some other paste services don't have a dark varient and we're all nocturnal.

[obtuse gale]

looks good

Ok thanks

[static zealot]

well already answered like 7 of the things lmao

[obtuse gale]

you anwsered 1

Anyways, That took me a long ass time to write Blitz so if you could share it with other mods that would be nice

Report channel for scammers
yeah you DM @compact perch for that

I mean it's mentioned in #rules

Ok

[prisma wave]

Fer·nan·do Pó·o

[obtuse gale]

I really hope they add the accept/deny feature as well as the search for services that would be so nice and helpful

for [service] you should have to select a service from a list or the request will be invalid
I mean not every service in existence can be listed, can it?

Nope but you can list a ton.

They dont have to be specific

some yes, but it shouldn't be forced down your throat to the point of invalidating the request

[request] should be specific

[obtuse gale]

Maybe a [service] other

[static zealot]

@obtuse gale https://paste.helpch.at/icuzuhenow.sql

go read xSD

most if not all of those are just useless or 100% not going to be done

[obtuse gale]

sql 🌞

[sweet cipher]

GC

[static zealot]

well that was a well spent 7 minutes

xD

[obtuse gale]

Remove general-plugins-2
tbh this is a terrible idea, so much so I would love for a #development-2 to exist actually

[prisma wave]

SQL GC

[static zealot]

yeah. look at my answer lmao its literally NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

O0

hmm

discord why?

[obtuse gale]

a suggestions channel would be neat though i agree

[static zealot]

O should be O

not 0

lmao

[obtuse gale]

I feel like you kinda just gave your personal opinions there blitz

it's been requested before so chances are it's not happening 🥲

[static zealot]

as if cube would actually listen to them. I Literally made a change.org pettition with over 200 votes and he just said no.

[obtuse gale]

lol

[sweet cipher]

A channel for specifically feedback, like how people say to tell them things about their showcase in #off-topic, would be good.

[obtuse gale]

I wanted people to vote

[static zealot]

believe me a lot of those are useless. and a lot are not going to be added bcz they've been requested

well anyways. that's all I had to say. guess just ping funnycube and he'll decide lmao.

@pallid gale here's @obtuse gale' requests https://paste.helpch.at/idipigiwej

if u got time to go thru them I guess

here's my opinion https://paste.helpch.at/icuzuhenow.sql

[obtuse gale]

Im going to rewrite it

[static zealot]

as well

[obtuse gale]

Also barry does have auto responses
"i have a question" 🌞

I didnt know some of the things were already features

[static zealot]

well yeah for some. like questions and errors. but even those are broken.

there used to be a way for us to just specify the error and the answer and when he saw that he'd send the answer

[half harness]

i ha‫‫‫‫ve a question

barry bad

[static zealot]

but apparently Piggy broke it lmao

i ha‫‫‫‫ve a question

imagine using white spaces

[sweet cipher]

ihaveaquestion

[half harness]

i have a question

[compact perch]

There is no time to wait! Ask your question @half harness!

[sweet cipher]

Hurry up @half harness we are all waiting

[static zealot]

is it cringe that there's singers who sing about eternal love and they've been with 10 people in the past 12 months?

[obtuse gale]

huh.. is it to do with the reply?

i have a question

[compact perch]

There is no time to wait! Ask your question @obtuse gale!

[obtuse gale]

i have a question

[compact perch]

There is no time to wait! Ask your question @obtuse gale!

[obtuse gale]

oh what

shut up

[half harness]

There is no time to wait! Ask your question @obtuse gale!

[static zealot]

there is time actually

you are wrong once again

[half harness]

oh

😔

[ocean quartz]

i have a question

[compact perch]

There is no time to wait! Ask your question @ocean quartz!

[ocean quartz]

Oh shit, i was half expecting it to ignore staff

[static zealot]

yeah nah xD

cube is lazy

[obtuse gale]

lol

[static zealot]

as you all know by now

amazing emote

[sweet cipher]

Why is that a thing

[static zealot]

bcz its relatable?

[sweet cipher]

I have a question

[static zealot]

u don't want to see the other emotes tho from that discord server

[sweet cipher]

You are right

[static zealot]

these are just the SFW ones

lmao

this is the best one tho

the 6 stages

[obtuse gale]

that one is awesome

[static zealot]

😄 😃 🙂 🥲

[obtuse gale]

used to have it

[static zealot]

my day usually starts and end with the 6th stage.

[sweet cipher]

There is no 6th stage

I only see 0-5

[static zealot]

...

[sweet cipher]

....

[jovial warren]

Blitz I swear it's like almost 2 AM in Romania rn, tf why aren't you in bed lol

[static zealot]

in bed? Who the fuck needs to sleep. I've slept like 6 hours in the past 3 days. Even tho I Didn't even use the PC in those 3 days

[jovial warren]

Wtf

[static zealot]

yeah. well I actually wanted to sleep lmao but couldn't

[jovial warren]

Insomniac?

[static zealot]

nah. was bcz of my tooth

went to the dentist and it took another 2 days for the nerve to die

[obtuse gale]

you have a tooth!?!?!?

omg

same

[static zealot]

and those 6 hours were bcz I've put some brandy on it. or whatever the word for it is in english lmao

[abstract badger]

Hello, do you guys recommend any guide/tutorial to compile a maven project?

[steel heart]

I mean

[half harness]

mvn clean package

[abstract badger]

I'm having an issue trying to compile McMMO in IntelliJ
Failed to execute goal org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-surefire-plugin:2.12.4:test (default-test) on project mcMMO: There are test failures.

https://pastebin.com/1Yia4QLU

[compact perch]

📋 Paste Converted!

https://paste.helpch.at/edikaloxab

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[ocean quartz]

Yeah you not gonna get any help on compiling a premium plugin lol

[forest pecan]

lol

Compiling plugins should be a developer

you should not be compiling plugins as a consumer who just wants to use the product, but doesnt know how to contribute

[abstract badger]

I wanted to compiliting to see how it worked, but ok

imma look for another alternative cuz it doesn't give a free option for test

[steel heart]

is throwing exceptions expensive?

[forest pecan]

Yes

it is expensive to throw and catch exceptions

[steel heart]

how expensive

[quiet depot]

I think I don’t know anything about hashing

[forest pecan]

what you using it for

[steel heart]

I was thinking general code flow

Like in a lambda

to interrupt

[forest pecan]

Hm

I mean ig its fine

just as long you arent using it for stuff like control flow

[steel heart]

Of course I would reuse the same exception instance to avoid multiple fillInStackTrace

[forest pecan]

Yeah

[steel heart]

hmm okay

[frail glade]

Just came across this and thought it was pretty cool. https://rahuldkjain.github.io/gh-profile-readme-generator/

[forest pecan]

cause it doesnt really make sense to use try and catch for control flow?

as it defeats the purpose

[steel heart]

true

[frail glade]

Example of what it generated ^

[steel heart]

Wow

damn thank you waffle

[forest pecan]

finally conclure can fill his readme

[steel heart]

[ocean quartz]

Seems like throwing is expensiveish, catching isn't

[steel heart]

hmm interesting

[obtuse gale]

yeah I think it's because it has to generate all the (legible) info about the stack frame or something

[ocean quartz]

Yeah, if you are trowing existing exceptions it's pretty much free

[steel heart]

Oh yeah not talking about instantiation just throwing

[static zealot]

Yo glare. When u accepting my DMenus PR? xD got anothar branch ready to go

[frail glade]

Sorry, been really busy with RL stuff and my focus here was making sure the JS expansion was ready to go.

I will try to look at it before 1.17 releases.

@static zealot If it isn't already, can you rebase your PR on the PR I just merged?

Ahh maybe it already is fine. I'll look.

[obtuse gale]

@quiet depot any reason in particular why no commands yet route tab suggestions?

[quiet depot]

@obtuse gale idk if that sentence doesn't make sense or if I'm just being stupid and can't understand it

[obtuse gale]

papi 3

[quiet depot]

yes papi 3

but papi 3 doesn't have any commands

it has like 1 test command

[obtuse gale]

riiiiiiight

[quiet depot]

wat

[obtuse gale]

none of the platform "command handlers" delegate completion suggestions to the commandrouter

just wondering

[quiet depot]

ah

yeah it's planned

just not a priority

at all

[static zealot]

done. should have worked anyways but fetched from upstream so its all in order now

[obtuse gale]

fair

[quiet depot]

then again if you're bored and want to work on something

go for it

[frail glade]

Also finish Adventure pls ty

[static zealot]

lmk when u closed it so I Can merge the other branch and pr again

[obtuse gale]

lol

[frail glade]

Everything looks good on it, only thing I'm not 100% sure on is the changes you made to the HasMetaRequirement.

[obtuse gale]

also yeah fabric being basically vanilla, the lack of a "services manager" calls for an API static accessor

[quiet depot]

woah wot

what are you making static

[obtuse gale]

nothing yet

fabric is literally vanilla

[static zealot]

I mean they're just simple changes. shouldn't be a problem. I did test them and it seemed to work. I don't remember on what menu tho

[obtuse gale]

with jar loading and mixins

[quiet depot]

how does it compare to forge

I've only ever made like 1 mod

[obtuse gale]

idk i've never used forge

it's daily time 👀

[quiet depot]

=daily

[compact perch]

Come back tomorrow for even more xp! - Want +1k xp? =GitHub

[onyx loom]

late

[obtuse gale]

hhhh

[quiet depot]

10xp

[obtuse gale]

lmao

[quiet depot]

flex

[onyx loom]

day 1

[static zealot]

like 3 of them is just changing from
return boolean ? true : false to just return boolean
1 of them is just a misspell fix

[frail glade]

Good enough for me. I'll merge it.

[obtuse gale]

actually let me look something up

[frail glade]

Oh wait I'll merge it tomorrow after you update the default configs

[static zealot]

ugh the default configs?

[frail glade]

I suppose I can just do that after I merge.

[static zealot]

what about them needs updating?

I can do it rn

[frail glade]

Just to add [takexp] and [givexp] to the documentation

[static zealot]

hmm is the wiki not good enough? xD

[frail glade]

Sure idc

Are they already on the HelpChat Wiki?

[static zealot]

don't think I added them yet

[frail glade]

Kk I'll merge it and you can just add them to the wiki before release?

[static zealot]

yeah sure.

[frail glade]

Merged.

[static zealot]

well I Do have another PR incoming

[obtuse gale]

yeah nah defo no kind of services thing

[quiet depot]

what's the point of takexp and givexp

aren't there vanilla commands for that

[static zealot]

well for most actions there are piggy

but people are lazy

and dumb

xD

[quiet depot]

ic

[frail glade]

Why are we looking at Fabric right now for P3? Can't we just get regular stuff first? I don't see adding a new platform as hard since I already know it has Adventure support.

[quiet depot]

we're not "looking" at it

emilyy is just doing it

for the same reason bardy is working on a krypton impl

they're doing it because they can

[static zealot]

oh man. github can be so confusing sometimes

[obtuse gale]

I mean sure i can wait until the adventure branch is done if you want me to

[frail glade]

Meh, go for it.

Idc.

[static zealot]

welp glare I opened another PR if u wanna take a look. sorry for the last 4 commits they're a mess

had to somehow merge branches and also fetch from the original repo so it turned into 4 commits lmao

[frail glade]

What about the open issue with only the first command being readded or whatever to the command map?

[static zealot]

when this gets pusshed to ci it will be a mess xD

[static zealot]

Its still an issue that needs fixed. I did take a look at the code but I remember having like 30-40 minutes only and couldn't find anything

didn't look any further after that

but yeah basically reloading deluxemenus, only reloads the menu when opened with the first open command

second, third, etc opens the old menu

for some reason

[frail glade]

Stray import? import com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.xs.StringList;

[static zealot]

oh shit. I forgot to remove it.

oh I Didn't push my last commit. fuck

xD

1 sec

[frail glade]

No worries. Let me get back to you on this tomorrow. I should shut down since I have work in the morning. I can test this PR out after work tomorrow.

[static zealot]

👍 alr

welp I removed the import. guess now all its left is testing.

[pallid gale]

@obtuse gale Blitz basically nailed all my responses, I agree with everything Blitz said, appreciate the suggestions though, always looking into areas where we can improve.

The only thing Blitz didn't really explain was the rules around the budget, you can actually list a % of profits, you just have to outline an estimate of what that would be.

[static zealot]

Oh my bad

[cinder flare]

pov: pulse was typing

[old wyvern]

Fer·nan·do Pó·ov

[cinder flare]

guys my butterfly knife comes Today

im so hyped

[old wyvern]

👀

[eternal compass]

a real one, or just the practice type that are fun to play with, but useless?

the real ones are sick

[cinder flare]

oh you bet a real one

sharp blade and all

now I'll have even more excuses as to the cuts on my hands 😉

and more fun things to do while I wait for my code to compile

[old wyvern]

https://afsp.org/suicide-prevention-resources

[cinder flare]

lmao

nah the reason I have cuts on my hands now is because I like to play with just a normal flip knife

sometimes ya drop it or somethin

[prisma wave]

Fer·nan·do Pó·ov

[obtuse gale]

wait so can a project be both spring and react? and if so how do i set that up?

[eternal compass]

do you juggle?

[prisma wave]

you will have 2 completely separate projects

that communicate with some form of api

[eternal compass]

I've never caught a knife on the wrong end :p
so I'm suprised you do

[obtuse gale]

so do i make it like a rest api with spring then can i make the request with react?

[prisma wave]

oui

well

yeah

[strange jetty]

Dude is trying to scam people nahimig#7278

[obtuse gale]

DM @compact perch

[vestal crypt]

@lost forge someone is dming be a token stealer or smthing

from saying u won a lotter at helpchat

[obtuse gale]

.

[vestal crypt]

sryy

[obtuse gale]

@prisma wave please ban this user

he DM'd me

it's @prisma wave

[prisma wave]

shush

i will ban you

[obtuse gale]

hhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[vestal crypt]

aa can u help me with a luckperm placeholder?

[obtuse gale]

uh #placeholder-api ig?

[vestal crypt]

aa plz check it

[eternal compass]

@prisma wave shall I do the honors for you?

[prisma wave]

yes please

i love being a support role who does have ban permissions and so i can ban people

[onyx loom]

ikr

its great

[obtuse gale]

@prisma wave another one for the album lol

[prisma wave]

wayyyyy ahead of you

i got 2

[obtuse gale]

lol

c# has record types :o

This is actually pretty neat https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/fundamentals/functional/deconstruct

[prisma wave]

Hahahaha you are like a little baby

little baby pattern matching

So cute

you should try some a@(x:xs)

[obtuse gale]

I mean I just found out C# has that

Not the first time I've seen it in general

[old wyvern]

C# has everything you ever wanted in Java

[obtuse gale]

no, not everything

proper code styling hhhhhhhhhhhhh

[onyx loom]

excuse me

would u like to elucidate

[obtuse gale]

i don't know what that means so i'm going to ignore your request 🙂

[half harness]

lol

[onyx loom]

no

please elucidate

[obtuse gale]

i don't know what that means so i'm going to ignore your request 🙂

[half harness]

lol

[ocean quartz]

Oh Dkim is on top 20 now

[half harness]

top 20 what?

[ocean quartz]

=xp lb

[compact perch]

XP Leaderboard:

See even more top users through the online leaderboard.

[half harness]

O

[prisma wave]

Love how kyle who hasn't been in the server for like a year is still above most people

[ocean quartz]

He used to talk so much

[onyx loom]

didnt he get like 250k xp from frosty or smth?

[ocean quartz]

Did he? Why? xD

[onyx loom]

discord nitro trade 🌚

@hot hull can u confirm

[half harness]

staff can give xp?

[onyx loom]

i remember frosty giving away some of his xp, idk who to / how much

[hot hull]

120k, for 3 months of nitro, and no that was a one off I'd assume

[ocean quartz]

He'd still be in the top 20 without it though

Oh actually he wouldn't

[onyx loom]

i see

[oak raft]

Who tf is Kyle?

Does he live in China?

[prisma wave]

Kylematsen

[prisma wave]

No idea, he left a few months after I joined

[oak raft]

China drag deez nuts across your face

Fr tho did he ever change names?

[prisma wave]

shut the fuck up

[oak raft]

[void mist]

https://tenor.com/view/deeznuts-gotem-deez-nuts-gottem-gif-4649117

[oak raft]

https://tenor.com/view/gotword-deeznuts-gottem-deez-nuts-gif-4394929

[onyx loom]

[ocean quartz]

Puwease gc sempai uwu

[obtuse gale]

"if you're in the mood" hahaah

[forest pecan]

what happens if you put System.gc() in an infinite while loop

[obtuse gale]

ask yourself

[forest pecan]

Aight imma try

[old wyvern]

After the first attempt, pretty much nothing

You just have an infinite loop

[winter iron]

pog

an infinite loop

thats cool i guess

[digital shuttle]

any really good spigot developer out there that can help me

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

» Give the helpers some details
» Ask suitable questions
» Be polite
» Wait

Source

Requested by: Matt • help

[digital shuttle]

how?

[ocean quartz]

We can help if you explain what you need help with

[digital shuttle]

k

i wanted someone to make me two plugins

i could pay

[old wyvern]

#849215410560827432

[ocean quartz]

^

[obtuse gale]

haahaha BM is in the spigot discord talking about haskell

gee 🥲

[old wyvern]

Yes!!

[ocean quartz]

A missionary on a mission

[spiral junco]

🦆

[onyx loom]

nice.

[ocean quartz]

Classic

[old wyvern]

"technician"

[onyx loom]

eek

best of helpchat question mark

[unborn phoenix]

…

[ocean quartz]

Skript "code"

[unborn phoenix]

Now

I’m about to seem

The most dumb person

But what’s language is Placehodler Api

It’s Java right ?

[half harness]

java

[unborn phoenix]

Yeah thought so

Jesus it’s gonna take me a while to get this GUI

As I need to learn Java now

[half harness]

uh

what are you trying to do

java takes months to learn

[unborn phoenix]

That’s my issue

I was a api that Display a Cross or a tick depending on if a player has a certain thing

For Mcmmo

And other hints

Things

[old wyvern]

Haskell

And Elara

Mostly Elara

[unborn phoenix]

Not Java?

As if it isn’t Java

It might be better to learn

As Christ learning the whole of Java for a gui seems a lot of work

[old wyvern]

http://learnyouahaskell.com/

😄

xD

[lunar cypress]

Christ died for our java sins

[old wyvern]

True!!

Java bad

[unborn phoenix]

Yeah

I don’t want to code a plugin

[ocean quartz]

It is in Java

He's joking

[unborn phoenix]

So you say it is

Wait what

This is meant to help I’m co fused

[ocean quartz]

PAPI is written in Java

[unborn phoenix]

But he says no

You say yes

[ocean quartz]

He's joking, I'm not

[unborn phoenix]

Why would he lie

[ocean quartz]

It's normal on this channel

[obtuse gale]

mhm

this is #dev-general

[unborn phoenix]

Hmmm

He’s not a dev then lol

[ocean quartz]

I mean he is a dev

[unborn phoenix]

Sure

Unless he honestly believes it’s haskel

Then maybe he’s not

Plus

[ocean quartz]

[unborn phoenix]

When do you cross that line of becoming a dev

When can you class yourself as a Dev

[ocean quartz]

When you develop something I guess

[unborn phoenix]

Does GUIs count

[ocean quartz]

Very philosophical questions

[unborn phoenix]

Do you need to know

[prisma wave]

Java killed Christ and God

[old wyvern]

Haskell good

[unborn phoenix]

The whole of Java for APIs

[old wyvern]

java bad

[ocean quartz]

And yes if you code a plugin that has a gui it would count

[old wyvern]

If you are a Java user, please reconsider your life!

[unborn phoenix]

Well I just code the gui

[prisma wave]

end*

[old wyvern]

I stand corrected

Yes

End it

[unborn phoenix]

I want to code APIs to go with it

But Jesus

[old wyvern]

Yes?

[prisma wave]

module API where ...

😌

[old wyvern]

😌

[unborn phoenix]

Everyone who Teaches Java sounds like they have had there life sucked from there soul

[prisma wave]

Because they have!

[old wyvern]

Yes they have!

They lack haskell in their life

[ocean quartz]

That's pretty fair tbh

[prisma wave]

😌 😌

Average haskell teacher is enthusiastic and full of life

[unborn phoenix]

Wtf is haskel

Am I missing the joke here

[old wyvern]

The almighty language

[unborn phoenix]

Or have these guys been dropped in the head

[tranquil crane]

an absolutely cursed language

they were probably dropped on their heads a few times

[prisma wave]

it's good for you

[unborn phoenix]

Anyone

[obtuse gale]

""accidentally""

[unborn phoenix]

Know a good place to learn Java that’s up to date

[prisma wave]

I will drop you on your head if you continue to disrespect haskell like that

[old wyvern]

We were enlightened!

[tranquil crane]

do it

[prisma wave]

?learn-java

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

Online Courses:
Online courses are also great for learning java. Some websites that offer them are:

• Coursera - Free unless you want a certificate
• PluralSight - Great courses from what I've seen. Mostly Paid
• Udemy - Never used them myself but they seem to all or at least most be paid.
  My first ever course was one from Coursera. - I can say it was pretty good at introducing me to the programming world as a whole not just java.

Oracle Docs:
Oracle docs can help a lot at learning and understanding java:

• Start with this,
• Breeze through this (skipping stuff that doesn't seem relevant like bitwise operators),
• Hit this.
  They're the first three from this larger thing which you should definitely go through overall. But those three should be enough for slightly better understanding of what is happening here without feeling like a huge time sink.
  That one is a small part of this larger site wherein "Essential Java Classes" and "Collections" also have good useful stuff

Other services:
Some other cool services that will help you learn java are:

• SoloLearn
• W3Schools
• JetBrains Academy

As you can see there are plenty of good ways to learn as long as you're willing to invest the time. Have fun learning!

Requested by: Brister Mitten • learn-java

[obtuse gale]

hhhhhhhh

[prisma wave]

Do not tempt me

[tranquil crane]

see not useful

[unborn phoenix]

Now imma attempt to learn Java

[prisma wave]

=faq add learn-haskell https://learnyouahaskell.com

[compact perch]

@prisma wave, Added learn-haskell to the faq.

[unborn phoenix]

Wish my soul goodbye

[tranquil crane]

oh no

[prisma wave]

you were saying?

[tranquil crane]

I just got outplayed

[prisma wave]

😌

Never try to outsmart a haskell user

[half harness]

staff abuse

[prisma wave]

Not really

It is a useful resource

That might be useful to some people

[lunar cypress]

Uhh

I think that shouldnt be https

[tranquil crane]

link fails chrome's security requirements

[ocean quartz]

Hmm, let's see what cube might think of that

[prisma wave]

YUGI

shared the wrong link

[tranquil crane]

yeah yeah shove the blame to somebody else

[prisma wave]

If he has a problem with useful learning resources he can take it up with me

=faq edit learn-haskell http://learnyouahaskell.com

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

http://learnyouahaskell.com

Requested by: Brister Mitten • learn-haskell

[prisma wave]

ez

[obtuse gale]

http 😐

[prisma wave]

https don't work

[tranquil crane]

imagine learning a language from a website that can't even set up ssl properly

[prisma wave]

The consequences of using impure webservers like nginx!

[obtuse gale]

ikr

[half harness]

intellij =

[obtuse gale]

?

[prisma wave]

Ah no it uses Apache

Even worse

That explains a lot!!

[obtuse gale]

hahah

[old wyvern]

🥲

I thought too much of that

Betrayal

top 5 anime betrayals

[cinder flare]

It's here bois

Though I taped it up after that picture so I don't lose too much blood

[obtuse gale]

but i do

😦

[cinder flare]

I feel like I'm playing CSGO

now I can run faster

[obtuse gale]

lol

[onyx loom]

ur csgo skills have now increased by 20%

[cinder flare]

im starting to ace bois

tec-9, rush b

[onyx loom]

alao, hand reveal 🌚

[cinder flare]

yeah pretty cute right

also keyboard and desk reveal

as well as blanket and floor reveal

[onyx loom]

pog

[cinder flare]

ooh my headphones and mousepad are in there

man I just doxxed myself didn't I 🥲

[obtuse gale]

nice hand yeah yeah

[cinder flare]

is my hand as cool as emilyy's eye though

[obtuse gale]

beyond human comprehension

[obtuse gale]

@obtuse gale and @prisma wave missed you both!

[steel heart]

Sup

[forest pecan]

why Comp

like

Composition?

lol

[steel heart]

Bomp, Comp, Domp etc

[forest pecan]

Oh

lmfao

[obtuse gale]

ayyy omp gang

[eternal compass]

@Aomp

[forest pecan]

Pomp

Fomp

[eternal compass]

@Womp

[half harness]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[eternal compass]

lmfao

[forest pecan]

Bomp

I love you

[obtuse gale]

love you too

gay shit

[forest pecan]

🥰

[eternal compass]

quickly someone gift me another boost

I gotta nick

[obtuse gale]

something wrong with that emily?

not in the slightest

yea thats what i thought talkin down on me and pulse on pride month

messed up

[forest pecan]

I promise my pp big

[obtuse gale]

oh no lol

[eternal compass]

lol

[onyx loom]

[forest pecan]

HEY

[obtuse gale]

nah not talking down

[eternal compass]

doubt sticker

lol

[obtuse gale]

consider them as

words of encouragement

[obtuse gale]

haha ok ill make sure to not be gay as shit next time em

[serene cave]

I love you

[eternal compass]

@half harness rip

[half harness]

😔

ez

[serene cave]

Wow, as I thought

[obtuse gale]

lets get that omp gang

[serene cave]

Scared of the president

Mhm

[cinder flare]

Any opinions on WMs?

Having a hard time choosing between i3-gaps, Awesome, bspwm, dwm, etc.

[quiet depot]

all of them at once

problem solved

[cinder flare]

genius

[gusty glen]

what is a wm?

[cinder flare]

Window Manager

[cinder flare]

it manages your windows on linux

all the ones I listed are tiling WM's, so they kinda auto format your windows to be the perfect size

[prisma wave]

XMonad

[cinder flare]

no it too ugly

i want something cute

I really just need a github repo of someone else's setup and then the ability to literally copy paste it into mine

[prisma wave]

I am sure it can be made to look good

i3 then ig

[cinder flare]

hmm maybe

what language does it use to tweak it

it better not be haskell DSL

[prisma wave]

which?

i3 has its own config format

XMonad may or may not use Haskell

[cinder flare]

yea I used i3-gaps before, was kinda weird

[prisma wave]

i always miss you 😚😚❤️

[prisma wave]

WHAT

[distant sun]

Waiting for a 1.17 spigot release will be fun

[jovial warren]

https://github.com/SpongePowered/SpongeAPI/blob/api-8/src/main/java/org/spongepowered/api/util/PEBKACException.java anyone else find this hliarious?

look where it's used as well lol

https://github.com/SpongePowered/SpongeAPI/blob/api-8/src/main/java/org/spongepowered/api/util/InformativeMain.java

[old wyvern]

Oiiiiii

[prisma wave]

what project

Surely not

[old wyvern]

SlimJar

😄

[prisma wave]

Nooooooo

[prisma wave]

"used for non commercial open source only" hahahahahahaha

[old wyvern]

😌

Lmao I have 2 licenses now

Oh wait they show up as separate things

[jovial warren]

wait... if you got it for SlimJar, and SlimJar has 19 stars, then surely, Krypton's like 38 stars should also mean I can get one too 🤔

make that 41 stars actually, wow

[old wyvern]

Yea, give it a shot

[jovial warren]

pog, Krypton got 41 stars

[old wyvern]

I dont think stars matter much

Matt applied while starting on mf cmds I think

and got it

[jovial warren]

oh wow

[old wyvern]

You just need to have any open source project that you maintain

[jovial warren]

ah okay

[old wyvern]

You can probably get licenses for bm and nicole as well since they have contributed considerable lines

[jovial warren]

once Nicole actually contributes her entity stuff, then she'll likely have enough to be considered a proper contributor

[old wyvern]

lit

[jovial warren]

still waiting on that though lol

[cinder flare]

slimjar! now that's pretty funny

[prisma wave]

Hahahahahahahahahahag

I have contributed a lot tbf

[jovial warren]

sure you have

[prisma wave]

I made this project what it is

[jovial warren]

https://i.imgur.com/4EfEWfQ.png

[prisma wave]

You would still be crawling around in the dirt without my server list ping work

[jovial warren]

lol

[prisma wave]

By that logic if Nicole can get one then so can I

Not that I need one

[jovial warren]

I mean, this project probably wouldn't exist rn if you hadn't started it, ngl

[prisma wave]

Exactly

I'm like Steve Jobs

Inspiring and empowering 😌

[jovial warren]

can you help me with a weird Gradle issue btw?

lemme grab you a build file and an exception

https://paste.helpch.at/ocihizixec.cpp this is the build file, the build fails at line 20 (sometimes)

* What went wrong:
Extension with name 'sourceSets' does not exist. Currently registered extension names: [ext]

[prisma wave]

No idea im afraid

[jovial warren]

rip

nvm, think I fixed the issue

evaluationDependsOn(":krypton-api") seemed to fix it, was probably some sort of strange race condition or something between evaluation

[cinder flare]

shoutout to Pulse for being in the top 4 Krypton contributors

[jovial warren]

lol

he's in the top 4 because there are only 4

hey does anyone else see GitHub's CSS all fucked? or is it just me?

maybe just my Firefox being weird

though using Waterfox gives me the same issue, and it persists on my phone on data as well

persists on Chrome on my phone as well wtf

[old wyvern]

Is it the images not loading?

[jovial warren]

no, the entire page has no CSS

[old wyvern]

oh, no idea rip

[old wyvern]

Lol

[jovial warren]

no images are loading either

like it sometimes loads the page but no images will load at all

restarting my machine did fuck all

what the actual fuck

* What went wrong:
Could not determine the dependencies of task ':krypton-server:shadowJar'.
> Could not resolve all dependencies for configuration ':krypton-server:runtimeClasspath'.
   > Could not resolve io.netty:netty-bom:4.1.65.Final.
     Required by:
         project :krypton-server
      > Could not resolve io.netty:netty-bom:4.1.65.Final.
         > Could not get resource 'https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/io/netty/netty-bom/4.1.65.Final/netty-bom-4.1.65.Final.pom'.
            > Could not GET 'https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/io/netty/netty-bom/4.1.65.Final/netty-bom-4.1.65.Final.pom'. Received status code 502 from server: Gateway Error
   > Could not resolve io.netty:netty-transport-native-epoll.
     Required by:
         project :krypton-server
      > Skipped due to earlier error
   > Could not resolve io.netty:netty-transport-native-kqueue.
     Required by:
         project :krypton-server
      > Skipped due to earlier error
```okay yeah GitHub's gotta be having issues

that's my latest failed dev build from actions

[old wyvern]

Its happening to me now too

[jovial warren]

yeah GitHub's having issues then

[old wyvern]

It was fine a few minuts ago

I tried a hard reload when you mentioned the issue

[jovial warren]

it seems to sometimes load properly and sometimes not lol

[old wyvern]

yea lol

[cinder flare]

now that's not good

also I have given up gentoo since I can't get it to work with my stupid windows dual boot setup

so uh, back to Arch I guess if I decide I want to linux again sometime

[prisma wave]

Just got the same error on NY times website

Maybe cloudflare down or something?

[cinder flare]

wtf I can't get reddit

[jovial warren]

nah, Fastly is down

https://twitter.com/MattieTK/status/1402203886790889473

Matt 'TK' Taylor (@MattieTK)

Fastly, the CDN provider, is having a massive outage, resulting in Twitch, Pinterest, Reddit, The Guardian, and the FT returning 503 errors.

https://t.co/parKGKwrSU

Twitter · Jun 8, 2021, 10:00 AM

[cinder flare]

stupid fastly

wasn't that one guy praising its abilities like yesterday

how ironic

[jovial warren]

wait what?

[prisma wave]

That was steven

Local hero of devden

[cinder flare]

ah devden

everything blurs together

[jovial warren]

wait what did that guy in dev den do?

[cinder flare]

he was talking up how great fastly was and how it cost him like $60 a month to get SSL on his domain

then this happens

quite ironic, if I do say so myself

[jovial warren]

lol

thinking about CDNs going down and affecting things, anyone remember when Cloudflare went down that one day?

13 data centres went down because of a faulty router in Atlanta

[cinder flare]

oof

[jovial warren]

https://techcrunch.com/2020/07/17/cloudflare-dns-goes-down-taking-a-large-piece-of-the-internet-with-it

[cinder flare]

well if that was only 25 minutes, maybe fastly will be back soon

i want my reddit back

oh no

oh my god my sharex is down too

IMGUR NOoo

thank god we still have twitter 😌

oh god maybe we don't

[jovial warren]

apparently all non-cache images on Twitter are gone

[cinder flare]

ohhhh nooo

[jovial warren]

https://tenor.com/WpQw.gif

[cinder flare]

Wonder what happened to all their cache servers

[jovial warren]

wait... tenor

wtf

[cinder flare]

very sad

[jovial warren]

lol

and this is why you use your own CDN

[pallid gale]

https://status.fastly.com/

[quiet depot]

just use cloudflare smh

[cinder flare]

https://i.imgur.com/RH6kc21.png

hmmm

ooh

is it back

[quiet depot]

no

[cinder flare]

oh no

[quiet depot]

tf is going on

[jovial warren]

Fastly went down

[pallid gale]

fastly dying

[quiet depot]

i swear the internet has crashed like 4 times in the past year

[cinder flare]

i can hear the mass migration to cloudflare happening as we speak

[quiet depot]

usually cloudflare and now fastly

[pallid gale]

fastly aint so fast

[quiet depot]

prior to the past year, I don’t remember shit like this ever happening

[jovial warren]

I still remember the day about a year ago when 13 of Cloudflare's data centres went down due to a faulty router in atlanta

[jovial warren]

lol

[cinder flare]

at least it's at like 5 am america time

maybe no one will notice 🤫

[jovial warren]

it's like 11:30 here

[pallid gale]

stack overflow is down

its end of the world

[jovial warren]

on no

[old wyvern]

Oh no

[cinder flare]

now the fastly engineers don't know how to fix it

they can't stack overflow it

[old wyvern]

Is everything going down for an hour again like last time

[pallid gale]

everyone who switched off cloudflare getting pranked

[cinder flare]

right

what if it delays the 1.17 release

oh no

[old wyvern]

Man I made a mistake of using this host called miles web, now they keeo annoying me to renew their service even after I cancelled

[jovial warren]

"degraded performance" my fucking ass

[cinder flare]

it's only a little degraded

[old wyvern]

Lmao

[cinder flare]

progress

never realized how many images were on a reddit page

[prisma wave]

This ladies and gents is why you don't base your "world wide web" on impure programs

real CDNs are just functions

[cinder flare]

hastly coming soon?

houdflare?

[old wyvern]

Guess what

[pallid gale]

twitch also down

wew

[old wyvern]

dHoublew dHoublew dHoublew

[prisma wave]

what

[old wyvern]

www

[jovial warren]

hhh will do

[old wyvern]

🥲

What if it ws written in kotlin 😄

k

[cinder flare]

oh no

[old wyvern]

xD

[prisma wave]

Noooo

[cinder flare]

fbi open up

[quiet depot]

what the fuck does that mean yugi

[old wyvern]

hhh for haskell

[prisma wave]

If the www was written in kotlin

[old wyvern]

so for kotlin

yea

[quiet depot]

what

[cinder flare]

piggy is a little slow

[quiet depot]

dHoublew

i don’t get it

[cinder flare]

that's how you pronounce the letter w

[old wyvern]

oh that

[cinder flare]

he was joking it has an h in it

[old wyvern]

^

[prisma wave]

everything with an h in it is good 😌

[old wyvern]

😌

Bm

[quiet depot]

so is everything without a h bad?

[old wyvern]

Please apply for a name change to include a h

[prisma wave]

Yes

Ok

[old wyvern]

Yes ofc,
HelpChat good
elpChat bad

[prisma wave]

Hrister Hitten

[quiet depot]

we’re all bad

how is elpChat bad

it still has a h

[pallid gale]

hey pig quickly check https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/

[old wyvern]

oh my bad

elpcat bad

[cinder flare]

Hugi

[old wyvern]

😌

[cinder flare]

Htar

[quiet depot]

2 secs cube just gonna take a few years to load

[old wyvern]

HiggyHiglet

[pallid gale]

it was a meme cause it was down

[old wyvern]

HunnyCuhe

Hatt

[quiet depot]

ik

[cinder flare]

Hedthehoggy

[old wyvern]

Harry

🥴

[jovial warren]

inb4 isitdownrightnow depends on Fastly xD

[pallid gale]

it was a meme cause it was down

[cinder flare]

HomHardyHamer

[prisma wave]

stack install hastly 😌

[quiet depot]

idk chief

[jovial warren]

wait is it actually down?

[quiet depot]

i think its just taking a while to load

def not down

[pallid gale]

worked for a min for me

then died

[old wyvern]

https://github.com/Funny-cube/Harry/issues/1

[cinder flare]

ah yes yes

[old wyvern]

github is back

[quiet depot]

😦

[cinder flare]

it's only kinda back

didn't load my images

[old wyvern]

oh

Everything seems to be loading fine for me rn

The petition has been reopened

Harry shall revive through haskell

😷

Suppressive open source developers!

[quiet depot]

gh still no worky worky 4 me 😦

[pallid gale]

sad reacts

[old wyvern]

try force reloading

[pallid gale]

bunch of aus media streaming sites down

[quiet depot]

i am on phone this was a fresh load

[old wyvern]

rip

[quiet depot]

i opened it after u said its back

[old wyvern]

ah

[prisma wave]

EVIL

[old wyvern]

ikr!!

[prisma wave]

VILLAINY

[old wyvern]

Tyranny!

[pallid gale]

we back

[jovial warren]

finally

[ocean quartz]

ElmChat 😌

[eternal compass]

there's an r in my name lol

Hredthehoggy

[cinder flare]

well yea you gotta make some compromises for pronunciation

[eternal compass]

"Hred" is doable

[cinder flare]

hmm very true

I did not think about that when jokingly h'ifying names

[eternal compass]

Hredthe🐷gy

[prisma wave]

😌

[forest pecan]

1.17 coming out in 2 hours

[winter iron]

😦

[dense dew]

1 h 20 min🍆

[obtuse gale]

xD

[ocean quartz]

Huh adventure moved from checker framework to JetBrains annotations
I wonder why ;o

[quiet depot]

ask them

[obtuse gale]

I did

Got no answer

[quiet depot]

rude

[obtuse gale]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[quiet depot]

omg

I just clicked mutual servers to find the kyori server

literally everything is a rainbow

[ocean quartz]

I guess this answers it

[quiet depot]

I haven't noticed them because I have most servers hidden away in folders

didn't realise so many were doing it

[obtuse gale]

o

[obtuse gale]

yeah there are loads

[ocean quartz]

Same

[quiet depot]

i kinda like barry's rainbow circle

regardless of pride month

might see if cube wants to keep it permanently

[frail glade]

I like it too 😄

[onyx loom]

same

[lost forge]

Same

[quiet depot]

@jovial warren have you used kyori event?

[jovial warren]

kinda

I'm switching to it rn as part of the event system revamp I'm doing for Krypton

[quiet depot]

think i'm just gonna use guava's eventbus

[jovial warren]

may or may not be copying Velocity

Kyori's event uses code generation rather than reflection for generating handlers to handle events

[quiet depot]

yea i don't understand it

no docs

well frankly I didn't actually see any code gen

[jovial warren]

yeah I didn't get that much support with it either

[quiet depot]

we're talking about KyoriPowered/event right?

[jovial warren]

kashike might be able to help you though if you ping him

yeah we are

[quiet depot]

eh nah guava eventbus looks fine for my needs

[jovial warren]

idk what the difference is tbh lol

[quiet depot]

I don't think kyori uses annotations to subscribe

I think it's more lambda based

whereas guava's eventbus is more normal

[jovial warren]

afaik both work

if you use event-method, you get the annotations iirc

[quiet depot]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[jovial warren]

look at https://github.com/KyoriPowered/event/tree/e8e1ad3b9a1e863e2e5e76e5cbd33b37c188e254 for 4.0 btw (which is what Velocity uses)

[quiet depot]

oh

ye that's not what I was looking at

was just looking at default branch

[jovial warren]

yeah event 5 hasn't been finished yet

that's still on the master branch, just the latest commit before the rewrite

[prisma wave]

why use event bus when you could use Supplier<T>

[jovial warren]

lol

[frail glade]

Bedrock Mojira just added section for 1.17 👀

Java Mojira just added section for 1.17 👀

[prisma wave]

wat

[frail glade]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/the-caves-cliffs-update-here

[rotund egret]

WOAH CAVES?

[static zealot]

yeah

a lot of caves