#dev-general
gusty glen
ok
obtuse gale
english smh
jovial warren
lol
obtuse gale
obtuse gale
hahahh
obtuse gale
link
i got the screenshot sent, I can't seem to find it tho lmao
oops didn't mean to ping
jovial warren
lol
ocean quartz
@jovial warren Oxford comma smh
jovial warren
nah m8
ocean quartz
gusty glen
it helps to visualize the groups within a sentence
ocean quartz
"Item, item2, and item 3" , and is the oxford comma
gusty glen
I know what oxford comma is
distant sun
"Item, item2, and item 3" `, and` is the oxford comma
Ew
gusty glen
ocean quartz
oxford comma is good
That's what I'm saying, Bardy isn't using it
obtuse gale
Ah yes classic sentence: "I love my parents, Lady Gaga and Humpty Dumpty"
I say that to my dad every weekend
gusty glen
aparentemente em pt-br a gente não deve utilizar mesmo a vírgula
jovial warren
I need to find a way to iterate over every SlimJar dependency and add it as a testImplementation 🥲
jovial warren
anyone know how to iterate over every dependency declaration with Gradle?
gusty glen
Eu prefiro com a virgula
eu também, mas aparentemente não se deve utilizar a vírgula em listas, de acordo com a gramática
boreal needle
@jovial warren how do i change the language?
jovial warren
-l en_UW
gusty glen
I am not seeing , between e and the last item from the list (I couldn't find anyone using it in examples I've searched), I'm afraid we cannot use it
jovial warren
or --locale, take your pick
I made it a CLI option for now to avoid having to load the config as early as we'd need it
obtuse gale
There's a jvm flag i believe
boreal needle
can i turn the debug logs off?
obtuse gale
the application user can override the host's default locale by providing this information on the command line by setting the
user.language,user.country, anduser.variantsystem properties
So -Duser.language=en -Duser.country=UW lmao
boreal needle
bardyyyyyyyyy
how do i disable debug logginggggggg
its getting in the way of my uwu
boreal needle
how do i do that
jovial warren
-Dlog4j.configurationFile=/path/to/log4j2.xml
lemme give you a modified INFO config
ocean quartz
@gusty glen Seems more up to debate than an actual rule itself
gusty glen
<@!274229586961629185> Seems more up to debate than an actual rule itself
Well, yes, but in that case the items from the list aren't Figura de Linguagem (polissíndetos), doesn't hold Relações adversativas nor are Sujeitos distintos, so I wouldn't use it since it's not a rule, furthermore I don't remember seeing it being used in any text I've read in pt-br. I am by no means a expert on the matter, so I have to copy what others do and believe in what was written by those with more knowledge in the matter. I won't use , there since I don't remember seeing comma used in this type of list
I miss the comma there too
ocean quartz
That's fair
gusty glen
should I? 
jovial warren
testImplementation(project(":krypton-api"))
testImplementation(netty("all"))
testImplementation("com.google.code.gson:gson:${Versions.GSON}")
testImplementation(configurate("hocon"))
testImplementation(configurate("extra-kotlin"))
testImplementation(adventure("serializer-configurate4"))
testImplementation(adventure("text-serializer-legacy"))
testImplementation(adventure("text-serializer-gson"))
``` @old wyvern 😠please make SJ register its dependencies as test implementations as well
by default
jovial warren
https://github.com/KryptonMC/Krypton/pull/30 made the PR if you wanna review btw
jovial warren
lol alright
old wyvern
Is there not supposed to be something to toggle this?
jovial warren
yes
ocean quartz
jovial warren
you could rephrase that as "done loading plugins", just to maybe make it easier to translate
gusty glen
he couldn't use "plugins" there I think, so the sentence becomes equal for either one or multiple plugins
"BungeeCord" here would be a "mode"? A feature? Support to bungeecord?
gusty glen
yo, got Kyptron from 6% to 57% translated, the rest is mostly programming terms "thread/dump/etc" or things that need more context to be translated
obtuse gale
jesus fucking christ... https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/issues/3033 big PEBKAC moment
obtuse gale
lmao that last comment
winter iron
how can i make it so when a inventory slot is clicked, i put an item on the players cursor. I see InventoryClickEvent#setCursor but its deprecated
is there any other way or do i just gotta use this
old wyvern
d; spigot InventoryView#setCursor
ruby craterBOT
old wyvern
@winter iron ^
winter iron
i c
doesnt seem to wanna work, btw im doing it in creative
so its alrdy hella bad
nvm ill have to just leave it
shitty creative mode
😦
old wyvern
"Juicy Commit"
forest pecan
Yes lol
old wyvern
What does it contain?
forest pecan
Conclure helped me with this, but I extracted a ton of interfaces from the actual concrete implementations
he helped me setup the modules and stuff
old wyvern
=paste
compact perchBOT
old wyvern
@ocean quartz How does this look?
https://paste.helpch.at/itihihalaz.kt
Empty spaces would be Z due to the last function btw, just looked hard to read with that also added to the output
pale shell
Aren't you supposed to name your commits better?
forest pecan
Well, yes, but who does that 🌚
old wyvern
of?
pale shell
Just break pmines get the log and put it in the support channel
old wyvern
break pmines?
pale shell
I wanna check my system is working
pale shell
break pmines?
Yes, make it puke up errors
old wyvern
Thats a very weird "test" role
ocean quartz
<@!180369172046413824> How does this look?
https://paste.helpch.at/itihihalaz.kt
Oooh I like it, could make a function for null, to be easier to read, like empty()
pale shell
Thats a very weird "test" role
Yes.
I have a bot what will find issues in logs and help fix it.
pale shell
I didn't realise I could run a discord bot from my pi
prisma wave
<@266973575225933824> look at these commit names >:(
Could be better, could be worse
pale shell
Oh btw bm, two things 1 cheers for adding the bot 2,what do you think of it
forest pecan
pale shell
Whatcha mean
obtuse gale
old wyvern
forest pecan
Lol
pale shell
Where's the change log
prisma wave
Whatcha mean
Seems like it would require a lot of messy if statements
pale shell
Seems like it would require a lot of messy if statements
You don't wanna see the code
pale shell
It runs, it finds the stuffs. We won't talk about the code anymore 🥲
pale shell
I could OS it or people could just join r/haskellmeme
old wyvern
Or we could do both!
ocean quartz
I hate this so much
prisma wave
pale shell
Those creepers getting big nowadays
gusty glen
I hate this so much
how can a generics extends the base class (which will have another generics which extends again the base class, until infinite), what?
ocean quartz
how can a generics extends the base class (which will have another generics whic...
It won't go to infinite dw xD
Something like this
public class Extended extends BaseCommandProcessor<Command, Extended>
Basically just letting the abstract class know which class is extending it
gusty glen
I have not tested, but what happens if you use "getClass" inside the BaseCommandProcessor? Will it return the BaseCommandProcessor or the Extended
obtuse gale
Enum<E extends Enum<E>> 🌝
obtuse gale
I have not tested, but what happens if you use "getClass" inside the BaseCommand...
getClass returns the class of this at runtime
ocean quartz
^
obtuse gale
So it would be the actual class of the instance
gusty glen
so it would return Extended?
obtuse gale
Extended and yes unless.. extended lol
gusty glen
Matt what do think about annotating package-info.java with not null (like https://github.com/SpongePowered/Configurate/blob/master/core/src/main/java/org/spongepowered/configurate/package-info.java ) instead of annotating all method parameters as @NonNull?
I discovered that recently, but I'm divided and cannot decide if using that would be beneficial or not
pastel imp
uh.. saw an example of a config for MySQL and what exactly is "database:" meant for?
does he mean the table?
ocean quartz
Matt what do think about annotating package-info.java with not null (like <https...
It's not bad, reduces a lot of typing, though idk if it would work with Jetbrains annotations, since that one is from Checker framework
steel heart
checker has so many annots lol
ocean quartz
uh.. saw an example of a config for MySQL and what exactly is "database:" meant ...
The database to connect to
pastel imp
The database to connect to
wdym
ocean quartz
One sql server can have multiple databases, you need to specify which one
ocean quartz
Yeah
ocean quartz
Yeah
steel heart
Matt sql pro
pastel imp
lul
gusty glen
bump
ocean quartz
I'm pretty sure it's client <-> redis <-> DB
gusty glen
so we have to configure redis to make DB requests?
ocean quartz
For that I am not sure how it works, i am yet to use Redis
steel heart
No it’s the former although you’d implement it such that it behaves like the latter
obtuse gale
@forest pecan I'mma grab that cpp dithering algo and make it compliant with the core guidelines 😆
forest pecan
@cinder flare
obtuse gale
call me a stupid... 🤦♀️ https://github.com/emilyy-dev/BetterJails/commit/6d29b894926d3c18b3b70fd75a038d77c380f83e
forest pecan
lol
tender cargo
can forge mods run a discord bot? im not sure if my mod for forge is possible that i requested in #837974312451440661
tender cargo
that seems like an odd design decision?
its so i can join servers and it just link it
so its not a plugin
i want it for minehut lobby chat
obtuse gale
wat
tender cargo
yes
eternal compass
call me a stupid... 🤦♀️ <https://github.com/emilyy-dev/BetterJails/commit/6d29...
a stupid
cinder flare
<@!186255788212355073>
@forest pecan
jovial warren
call me a stupid... 🤦♀️ <https://github.com/emilyy-dev/BetterJails/commit/6d29...
Imagine using optional
I prefer nullability annotations to optionals since Kotlin can properly convert the former, whereas it can't convert the latter
potent nest
not everything is about Kotlin
onyx loom
avoiding null altogether 😌
jovial warren
not everything is about Kotlin
Nah but it should be because Kotlin on top 
potent nest
avoiding null altogether 😌
Yeah that's the spirit - and using Optional if not possible otherwise
jovial warren
Also, nullability annotations are a bit easier to work with tbh
And optionals give you more allocations
Maybe if Java was actually better at handling nullability then we wouldn't have this issue in the first place
We wouldn't need optionals
potent nest
Annotations are easier to ignore and you highly depend on IDE features (as Kotlin does everywhere), making code reviews harder
jovial warren
Also, I swear there's an official JEP that added nullability annotations that are used in Java much more often than optionals are
javax.annotation has the official ones iirc
potent nest
that's something completely different
jovial warren
How is it?
They are the same annotations as what JB annotations and the checker framework provide
And many more
potent nest
It's about TYPE_USE, which allows some cool stuff, but does not replace what you can express with Optionals
jovial warren
The checker framework is really good tbh
boreal needle
do i swap out nullables for optionals
jovial warren
Not in an API, no
God no
You can on the backend though
But you don't need them for most cases anyway
prisma wave
not everything is about Kotlin
Based
jovial warren
Optionals are only really required for things like mapping and what not
prisma wave
Wat
prisma wave
do i swap out nullables for optionals
probably a decent idea
prisma wave
Not in an API, no
why not
jovial warren
There are loads of things you can do with optionals, but optionals aren't required for basic nullability
prisma wave
okay and?
prisma wave
theyre still nicer, even if they're not required
jovial warren
Man, Kotlin compiler converts optionals to nullable types when
prisma wave
kotlin compiler bad
prisma wave
orElse(null) easy
onyx loom
based
jovial warren
someone please tell me wtf based means in this context
is it based on what? biased? what are you saying? I don’t get it lol
prisma wave
prisma wave
The story continues
prisma wave
it can't be used like that
Oh it can
quiet depot
this is dev general
prisma wave
This is ironic
spiral junco
nice
prisma wave
someone please tell me wtf based means in this context
A word used when you agree with something; or when you want to recognize someone for being themselves, i.e. courageous and unique or not caring what others think
spiral junco
jovial warren
ah
old wyvern
Nah but it should be because Kotlin on top <a:catvibing:752360140233244842>
Imagine calling your language "null-safe" and allowing platform types and lateinit vars 😏
jovial warren
Okay, platform types aren't Kotlin's fault, lateinit vars have their uses in some places where you know that something will always be instantiated later
But lateinit vars are a hack
And they actually cause me issues in Krypton as well
I might fix the location and world lateinit vars by making a dummy or undefined world that can be the initial value
Then I can have an initial location value
Because nullable locations and worlds suck
pastel imp
Is having something never seen before in your plugin a reason to make it paid even if the basics of the plugin are easy and common af?
jovial warren
And we need to instantiate the player object as early as we do because of player join event
jovial warren
Is having something never seen before in your plugin a reason to make it paid ev...
I mean, I guess
Still make it open source though :)
old wyvern
Okay, platform types aren't Kotlin's fault, lateinit vars have their uses in som...
Ofc, but we still get back to runtime null issues 🙂
Haskell on top!
jovial warren
Fair
pastel imp
Still make it open source though :)
Uh wouldnt people just compile it instead of paying xe
onyx loom
whats a platform type
old wyvern
Types not annotated with NotNull or Nullable
jovial warren
Uh wouldnt people just compile it instead of paying xe
This is Spigot we're talking about here, most people won't
old wyvern
It kotlin you see them as Type!
onyx loom
Types not annotated with NotNull or Nullable
by any chance does IJ mark them with!
old wyvern
Yes
onyx loom
yeah, i was wondering that yesterday haha
jovial warren
It's Kotlin basically saying "idk whether this could be null or not"
pastel imp
Lets say hypothetically I find a new feature for a homes plugin, does that make it unique lmao? And a reason to be paid even if its low price?
pastel imp
This is Spigot we're talking about here, most people won't
Not actually
old wyvern
Kotlin lets you use them like Not-Null variables, while they are in a sense Nullable
pastel imp
Idk if I will put it in spigot
onyx loom
yeah
so its up to the user to handle that nullability at their level, not the language
old wyvern
Basically a KNPE waiting to happen
jovial warren
Idk if I will put it in spigot
If it's MCM, even less people will look for the source
pastel imp
If it's MCM, even less people will look for the source
Ye ok anyways.
jovial warren
Kotlin lets you use them like Not-Null variables, while they are in a sense Null...
Most of the time, especially in overridden parameters, they are automatically converted to nullable types
old wyvern
They arent converted anywhere without a Nullable annotation
You can check the kt docs
jovial warren
But using them as variables will give you platform types
Even Locale constants are platform types lol
old wyvern
Bad
jovial warren
Tbh, platform types are Java's problem though, not Kotlin's
They should probably be nullable by default though unless you explicitly specify the type
Instead of this sorta nullable sorta not null thing
Though platform types will give you a green line, so you can't say they don't try
onyx loom
i dont get a green line
jovial warren
On variables you will
old wyvern
They should probably be nullable by default though unless you explicitly specify...
Exactly, the reasoning for platform types is mostly cause of they need to use the jdk
jovial warren
Yeah
onyx loom
no i dont get one
old wyvern
But then they should also not call it completely null-safe
jovial warren
Kotlin/Native doesn't have this issue, since there are no platform types afaik
jovial warren
But then they should also not call it completely null-safe
They don't, the compiler warns you about using platform types without specifying the type explicitly
It knows that they could potentially be dangerous
old wyvern
You get similar benefits even on Java
The point it to actually be null-safe
Hence
Haskell!!
Or any other language without a null
😌
onyx loom
nil
old wyvern
🥲
jovial warren
Or any other language without a `null`
What do you use to represent the absence of a return value then? Some sort of Option like Rust does?
ocean quartz
Or any other language without a `null`
Or a language with only nulls 🌚
old wyvern
xD
merry sedge
Is it possible to block a command for a group?
The command doesnt have a permission node
jovial warren
Lol
onyx loom
clojuremoon relieved
prisma wave
Rust monad pattern university higher kinded types clojure lazy sequences collection functor
prisma wave
Just like Clojure
https://tenor.com/upk7.gif
@lunar cypress
jovial warren
Lol
prisma wave
We have the Kotlin K
UGLY
jovial warren
We don't need a moon
onyx loom
jovial warren
Lol wtf
prisma wave
😌
jovial warren
Clojureguns?
onyx loom
what server are those in bm
jovial warren
<:haskell:821823367333675058> <:fsharp:821823437286670336> <:rust:82182428396512...
One of these things is not like the others
onyx loom
i tried looking for haskell emoji 😔
onyx loom
ew
prisma wave
One of these things is not like the others
WHICH
onyx loom
"rust because its not functional" 
merry sedge
Is it possible to block a command for a group?
any help with this?
prisma wave
PlayerCommandPreProcessEvent
obtuse gale
anyone know if theres a keyboard shortcut to switch between open tabs in IJ?
like go from left to right
old wyvern
Time to rename Elara as Relieved?
steel heart
anyone know if theres a keyboard shortcut to switch between open tabs in IJ?
If it’s in the same window pretty sure u can use like Ctrl + pgdwn or smtng idr
prisma wave
anyone know if theres a keyboard shortcut to switch between open tabs in IJ?
Alt + left / right also works afaik
prisma wave
Relieved lol
😌
onyx loom
Time to rename Elara as Relieved?
😌
timber oak
What is bleeding edge on github?
forest pecan
bleeding edge is a term which usually refers to like nightly builds
or like unstable builds
in general
like bleeding edge builds
timber oak
So it doesn't really do anything it just means that it's untested?
forest pecan
ig in some way?
half harness
So it doesn't really do anything it just means that it's untested?
it means new
so expect bugs
timber oak
Yeah so like it doesn't actually do anything for the code itself
It's just information
right?
half harness
wait where are you seeing this bleeding edge option?
pale shell
Move over Simon Peyton Jones, Jeff Atwood and Joel Spolsky are now better than you. 🙂
onyx loom
who dat
timber oak
wait where are you seeing this bleeding edge option?
Just saw it on a public plugin
onyx loom
with haskell stackoverflow is useless
half harness
Just saw it on a public plugin
bleeding edge is a term which usually refers to like nightly builds
nightly builds = frequent builds, so might be buggy
pale shell
I agree @half harness haskell is bad.
timber oak
Yeah makes sense, but how come bleeding edge can fail then? The plugin has a discord server that shows updates, but this is what I mean
pale shell
prison 🤔
half harness
Yeah makes sense, but how come bleeding edge can fail then? The plugin has a dis...
idk
pale shell
i recognise that project name
timber oak
So when using bleeding edge it runs the tests in the test package in the project?
half harness
no
pale shell
with haskell stackoverflow is useless
no
timber oak
Or does this just mean it couldn't build the jar for some reason
Couldn't compile or something
forest pecan
Yeah makes sense, but how come bleeding edge can fail then? The plugin has a dis...
uhh not all bleeding edge builds must be succesful
in fact, not even all builds are succesful usually
bleeding edge generally means unstable, but it could mean like every nightly build
and not always will the code be compliant and compile correctly always in that case
timber oak
Yeah makes sense, but how come bleeding edge can fail then? The plugin has a dis...
So "build failure on bleeding" just means that it couldn't compile/build the jar?
Like a normal build failure?
old wyvern
mhm
prisma wave
with haskell stackoverflow is useless
so true
pastel imp
can u have 2 or more "WHERE"s in a MySQL request?
prisma wave
use an AND?
sturdy swan
https://www.guru99.com/where-clause.html is probabbly helpful for you
prisma wave
distant sun
"accepted by the official server and client"?
jovial warren
Lol
Not a definitive list though is it
The official client can have more blocks added to it afaik
half harness
yea, but that list shows all amterials that the client must accept
so all clients support dirt blocks
not all clients support.. idk, a table
jovial warren
Can't say all clients dkim lol
Not all clients have to support dirt lol
That's why it says the official client
But the official client can have blocks added without modifying code iirc
jovial warren
The way that is phrased makes it sound like it is a definitive list
Also, registries on top
I might have Krypton use registries soon
I want Krypton to primarily support the Notchian client, but also have an API extensive enough to support modified clients
I will likely also modulise Krypton a lot, so making your own implementation of the API becomes a piece of cake (in the event you wish to make your own implementation)
half harness
bukkit implementation 😎
pastel imp
use an AND?
uh?
old wyvern
But the official client can have blocks added without modifying code iirc
Really?
There are packets for that?
jovial warren
Just block update
quiet depot
@prisma wave pls explain joke
jovial warren
If you send the right IDs for the blocks, everything else is fine
Recognised blocks aren't hard coded
prisma wave
<@!266973575225933824> pls explain joke
There is no explanation
I am not sure what I was thinking
half harness
lunar cypress
what too much haskell does to a mf
half harness
lol
timber oak
Someone got any ideas I could do for a plugin portfolio?
steel heart
Discord bot
timber oak
Ehhh wat
hot hull
timber oak
Like generating an entire new world?
static zealot
@quiet depot thought I'll ask you before reinstalling kde neon. Sooo.. when you told me to chose a driver from software and updates, i did but didn't work so i tried some more and in the end it broke. The os doesn't boot anymore. It stays in my laptop's loading screen. (I can boot in windows btw). So I've searched for fixes and I found a few people saying that the problem is I have no graphics card driver selected. Some said I should edit the boot commands or whatever those are called (when i select OS to start, I press E) and some said I should put nomodeset for second to last command (the linux one) and others said I should put in nouveau.modeset=0 Second one does absolutely nothing different but first one puts me in a black screen where it says [74.918297] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:03.0: HSW/BDM HD-audio HDMI/DP requires binding with gfx driver
That took a while to write on phone 
old wyvern
Recognised blocks aren't hard coded
How do you get it to recognize a new block then?
static zealot
<@181675431362035712> thought I'll ask you before reinstalling kde neon. Sooo.. ...
BTW I assume the last message has to do with the nomodeset bcz i think it tells the graphic driver to no load or something like that
half harness
That took a while to write on phone <:smiling_face_with_3_tears:8074566048107724...
oof
static zealot
Well the thing is it doesnt boot anymore xD
So i thought maybe i can do something without reinstalling
Gonna try a few more things and if not then reinstall it is
gilded granite
Is it a good idea to learn multiple languages at once? I'm currently learning Java, but at the same time i really wanna learn HTML, CSS, and PHP, should i wait to learn those until i finish learning java or is it a good idea to learn them all at the same time
old wyvern
Why is every possible thing going wrong for blitz xD
old wyvern
Is it a good idea to learn multiple languages at once? I'm currently learning Ja...
Go for it if you want to
gilded granite
Alright
old wyvern
Once you get a grasp of one language it should be easy enough to get used to others
gilded granite
Alright thanks for the info
gusty glen
@jovial warren I was wondering, do you think it would be possible to implement support to Bukkit plugins in Krypton (even if not 100%, just partial)?
forest pecan
maybe
half harness
yea, but it'd be a lot of work (the bukkit api is very large)
especially if you want craftbukkit support
it'd also require using a lot of the jvm annotations such as JvmField and JvmStatic
steel heart
I could think of a plugin which does that
such that bukkit api support isnt enforced
half harness
wdym?
steel heart
a standalone krypton plugin which would implement the bukkit api with krypton api
static zealot
@quiet depot guess who got it working? ||not me... some guy on the internet that I just copied and now it works for me too||
steel heart
similar to fabric api
half harness
a standalone krypton plugin which would implement the bukkit api with krypton ap...
but it'd still take a long time, wouldn't it?
prisma wave
Is it a good idea to learn multiple languages at once? I'm currently learning Ja...
Why would you possibly want to learn PHP
half harness
and NMS support... thats nearly impossible
steel heart
a standalone krypton plugin which would implement the bukkit api with krypton api
oh ye
thats true
half harness
well
steel heart
fuck them
static zealot
well techincally I Didn't get it working. fuck
half harness
<@!266294134116057089> I was wondering, do you think it would be possible to imp...
he didn't specifically say "api"
half harness
fuck them
lol
craftbukkit support would be sorta like bukkit api support
oh what about protocollib
steel heart
uh wat
half harness
packet support
steel heart
bukkit is the craftbukkit and the api thats true
steel heart
a standalone plugin could just implement the paper api or smtng
but entire server impl ofc no
then krypton is no point if its just gonna provide entire spigot server jar
gilded granite
Why would you possibly want to learn PHP
because my friend said i should
gilded granite
alright
i'll rather take your word for it than my friend who knows less than me about programming
prisma wave
Let's let PHP die :)
gilded granite
and i know like nothing
prisma wave
😌
jovial warren
<@!266294134116057089> I was wondering, do you think it would be possible to imp...
it would be, however anything using NMS would just not work
most Bukkit plugins would also not work very well in an environment like Krypton
since Krypton is heavily designed around concurrency and asynchronous execution, Bukkit doesn't really encourage that all that well
in fact, for most things, it is discouraged
humble silo
it would be, however anything using NMS would just not work
Have you guys considered creating something like a integrated server(somewhat like they have in the minecraft client) that would effectively be a server yet it could run on the client or the server and let them respectively implement stuff like rendering(for the client) or handling network stuff(for the server). I just really like this idea becuase it would make it alot easier for Krypton to also have a client implementation
jovial warren
yeah maybe we could
though I'm not sure how we would put the integrated server into a client
humble silo
My idea for it was that everything would go into or out of the integrated server as packets, so the client could pretty much deal with it(in singleplayer) like connecting to a multiplayer server
jovial warren
the whole point of the integrated server though is that it's integrated
jovial warren
trying to get Krypton to work under a single player environment would be difficult
jovial warren
no
the issue is how tf would we get it into the vanilla client?
Sponge uses Forge to inject itself, that won't work for us
humble silo
Ah, maybe ive been misunderstanding Krypton, are you trying to completely re-write the server, or just create a new plugin api for it?
humble silo
the issue is how tf would we get it into the vanilla client?
Do you mean the launcher then?
If you are re-writing it you wont have to deal with injections/mixins too much
or at all
jovial warren
we are not rewriting the client
my question was how tf would I get a rewritten integrated server into a vanilla client?
humble silo
Oh, lol my general point was that you would additionally be re-writing the client, since the krypton server isnt finished now, i do get that thats kindof a big idea to talk about
jovial warren
rewriting the client is a whole other bird lol
the client has to deal with rendering and collisions and shit
humble silo
It would be awesome, but ya
jovial warren
lol
humble silo
the client has to deal with rendering and collisions and shit
The collisions arent overly difficult as its just with cubes, and you could probably steal a pretty good amount of that stuff from the original code and just clean i tup
jovial warren
I guess
humble silo
But ya, It would be amazing if it happened, cant wait to see the serverside done either way!
old wyvern
If its to copy a lot of the code from the vanilla client why not just mod it instead
lol
humble silo
If its to copy a lot of the code from the vanilla client why not just mod it ins...
Well you would see what they did, write some, see what they did, make it better, etc etc etc
steel heart
@prisma wave where can I find enterprise haskell 3d api
jovial warren
yeah we could inject an integrated server, just not sure about people having to download a modified client just for it
humble silo
yeah we could inject an integrated server, just not sure about people having to ...
Thats where you write your own launcher 😉
lol
jovial warren
lol
humble silo
Theres really no reason to write a integrated server and just inject it though, that doest really help all that much
jovial warren
eh, it probably would help a bit
steel heart
lmfao
jovial warren
https://github.com/KryptonMC/Krypton/runs/2657673854 someone please explain why tf this doesn't build when it works fine locally
wtf GitHub
humble silo
eh, it probably would help a bit
With a modding api?
What is your overall goal with Krypton, if i can ask?
jovial warren
no, with our optimisations
jovial warren
What is your overall goal with Krypton, if i can ask?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
jovial warren
just fun atm
does anyone mind cloning that feature/localisation branch btw and trying to run the tests locally?
old wyvern
Werent you against feature branches like a week ago
jovial warren
yes but I realised that I need to stop being lazy
old wyvern
Waiting for you to start Haskell 🙂
jovial warren
and that pushing directly to master is a bad idea because it means I won't get my GitHub checks until we're at the point where I can't fuck anything up
old wyvern
xD
humble silo
Anyone know why this is happening when i build or run with gradle? Selected configuration 'api' on 'project :api' but it can't be used as a project dependency because it isn't intended for consumption by other components
prisma wave
<@!266973575225933824> where can I find enterprise haskell 3d api
wat
jovial warren
can someone clone Krypton btw please and try to run the tests on the feature/localisation branch?
I wanna see if it also fails for others, since it fails the actions build but succeeds for me locally
obtuse gale
can I talk about worldguard here?
static zealot
can I talk about worldguard here?
if you're a dev and want help to integrate it in your plugins or something similar then #development. If you're just a server owner and can't get something to work #general-plugins or #general-plugins-2. If you just want to casually talk about a plugin(the development side of it) then here is the place to do it I guess
having just one screen sucks. especially since that one screen is the small laptop one
jovial warren
can someone clone Krypton btw please and try to run the tests on the feature/loc...
someone please
fine, time to get Git on my laptop
jovial warren
literally clone and then ./gradlew test
static zealot
but first I have to get the other branch right?
static zealot
well brb then. going to clone and see
yep I Know
moving a bit slow bcz I'm in a lot of mental pain rn xD
feature/localisation you say?
jovial warren
yes
static zealot
hmm gradlew not found. guess I have to open it in IJ or something
static zealot
yeah that's what I Tried
jovial warren
you in the root directory?
static zealot
yeah. going to open ij and do it from the gradle interface or whatever that is called
jovial warren
nah just use the wrapper to run it
it should work from the wrapper no problem
try just gradlew.bat test in CMD then I guess?
jovial warren
lol
jovial warren
if it fails, send me the report it logs the path to
static zealot
alr.
static zealot
if it fails, send me the report it logs the path to
> Task :buildSrc:jar
:jar: No valid plugin descriptors were found in META-INF/gradle-plugins
> Task :krypton-api:test FAILED
FAILURE: Build failed with an exception.
* What went wrong:
Execution failed for task ':krypton-api:test'.
> There were failing tests. See the report at: file:///home/blitz/Documents/GitHub/Krypton/api/build/reports/tests/test/index.html
* Try:
Run with --stacktrace option to get the stack trace. Run with --info or --debug option to get more log output. Run with --scan to get full insights.
* Get more help at https://help.gradle.org
Deprecated Gradle features were used in this build, making it incompatible with Gradle 8.0.
Use '--warning-mode all' to show the individual deprecation warnings.
See https://docs.gradle.org/7.0/userguide/command_line_interface.html#sec:command_line_warnings
BUILD FAILED in 3m 42s
send me the index.html file
static zealot
send me the index.html file
is it ok in a pastebin? https://paste.helpch.at/yidodalucu.xml
oh that looks kinda ugly xD
but its the same in the file
so I guess nothing I can do
jovial warren
oh actually, just send me the whole directory
jovial warren
send me the test directory
jovial warren
yes
static zealot
wtf is this bullshit. I can't send it in discord
I assume its bcz of permissions but I moved it to the home directory and to my documents and desktop and it still doesn't let me
jovial warren
ZIP it and DM it lol
static zealot
yeah that's what I Was doing
didn't let me
it was the same with photos before, had to move them to my home dir but it didn't let me
for some reason
this time
jovial warren
oh ffs, ofc this is the error
static zealot
😮
jovial warren
actions uses Java 11
static zealot
I assume that has something to do with KRypton not my machine since I Do use java 11?
oh wait
github actions
gusty glen
I found a bug on XItemStack: https://github.com/CryptoMorin/XSeries/issues/119
half harness
does any JDK have any sort of limitation like java 16? im looking to download a later jdk than 11 😛 but i want to keep backwards compatibility
timber oak
Isn't JDK 16 only required for minecraft version 1.17+?
old wyvern
Isn't JDK 16 only required for minecraft version 1.17+?
Yes
half harness
maybe ill upgrade to jdk 16 later
old wyvern
does any JDK have any sort of limitation like java 16? im looking to download a ...
I dont think theres any significant breaking change between 11-15
half harness
so im wondering if any other jdk has something like that too, that sorta breaks backwards compability
half harness
I dont think theres any significant breaking change between 11-15
alr, so ig ill use 15
steel heart
wym new encapsulation rules
half harness
mhm
old wyvern
You should mostly be fine even on 16
half harness
some spigot plugins use it, and i just want to be on the safe side for now
steel heart
its not like they changed encapsulation dkim
half harness
i mean they changed something
old wyvern
Unless or until someone defines a module for bukkit/spigot you're fine on 16
half harness
i dont exactly know what, i just know that it breaks pdm
obtuse gale
You can still target and compile to older versions
onyx loom
java 16 breaks pdm? wdym? pdm was broke before then 🌚
half harness
You can still target and compile to older versions
i know, that's why i want to upgrade, so i can also compile to newer and older versions, but i can't run the jar if it uses the reflection thingy
steel heart
thought that was something will classloaders
old wyvern
i dont exactly know what, i just know that it breaks pdm
Thats just stronger encapsulation, you'd normally not have to deal with it
Its only an issue when dealing with deep reflection
half harness
if a plugin uses pdm/similar it breaks tho D:
old wyvern
That too, only on defined modules
obtuse gale
Slimjar works fine lmao
old wyvern
if a plugin uses pdm/similar it breaks tho D:
not with slimjar 😄
half harness
slimjar is too confusing 😩 (the isolation part especially)
old wyvern
Improved the api
half harness
at least the part where it works with java 16
half harness
😮
old wyvern
Man I had to do like 3 major changes in this because java had some unpredictable witchcraft at some points
obtuse gale
But yeah in any case Java 16's strong encapsulation is not something you have to worry about unless you're reflecting on projects that incorporate jigsaw
steel heart
🥲
steel heart
11 is lts after all so maybe keep it
half harness
alr, thanks! 🙂
old wyvern
Had to rewrite all usage of Gson and JarRelocator with reflection 🙃
Im almost certain its going to hit 300 commits after this
half harness
my projects never have a lot of commits because i only commit daily 😔
steel heart
same
old wyvern
Try to commit small changes, or atleast split up your commits finally
You can still split you changes at the end
half harness
uhhh huh
old wyvern
That way you can reset/find something you need back at some point
steel heart
I just commit everything and put a message like some work
https://github.com/Conclure/NamedNonamer/commits/master my brilliant commit history
half harness
no im talking about the fact that i removed and readded shadowjar in the next commit
old wyvern
Yea you could have reseted that
old wyvern
I see
old wyvern
Commits through the github web application get verified by itself
obtuse gale
Imagine not signing your commits
old wyvern
You have to sign it with a pgp key otherwise
old wyvern
Then setup signing
half harness
also, uh, interesting
old wyvern
obtuse gale
It's pretty straightforward to set up
That's because the instructions are pretty straightforward lmao
half harness
hopefully easier than setting up the one for maven central
obtuse gale
Yeah
half harness
but after a couple ppl helping out i got it working 😄
old wyvern
Hiding reflection 101 🙃
half harness
🤔
obtuse gale
Façade is such a nice word
old wyvern
How is "ç" read?
old wyvern
its portugal?
obtuse gale
Yeah
old wyvern
oh ok
ocean quartz
Yeah it's read like an s
static zealot
guess who solved his drivers problem and has 2 screens again? ME
old wyvern
ayy gj
onyx loom
how long did that take u xd
jovial warren
Hiding reflection 101 🙃
ReflectiveJarRelocatorFacadeFactory wtf
also what is your obsession with creating interfaces for everything in SJ
old wyvern
Easier to unit test
old wyvern
And for users to change
steel heart
ty
jovial warren
oh btw, is it just me or are Java toolchains (which I just found out about) actually god tier
steel heart
found out about it recently also lol
half harness
<@!521485088995672084> why am I not in ur dev den discord
hmmmm
jovial warren
now I can build Krypton (JVM target 16) with Java 8!
not that I generally do, just that others that clone this may use older versions of Java, and Jenkins uses 11 lol
static zealot
nice
gusty glen
oh btw, is it just me or are Java toolchains (which I just found out about) actu...
what is that?
prisma wave
its portugal?
Pretty sure the word façade is french
jovial warren
what is that?
you can set the Java version that's needed to build your project and Gradle will automatically download and use that JDK for building, no matter what version it was launched with
gusty glen
but what exactly is the advantage of that?
prisma wave
You don't need java 11 installed to build a java 11 project for example
jovial warren
you don't need to run Gradle with Java 11 either to build a Java 11 project
lunar cypress
I'm pretty sure you do (target compatibility only works in the other direction)
ocean quartz
@old wyvern I was thinking and what if instead of row(A, B, C, ...) we do
row {
item(collumn, itemstack) {
}
// or
empty()
item(itemstack) {
}
empty()
item(itemstack)
// etc
}
this is confusing, a little bit
old wyvern
<@!235475470806679554> I was thinking and what if instead of `row(A, B, C, ...)`...
yea, looks good 👍 👍
prisma wave
mf GUI Clojure
ocean quartz
mf gui haskell 😌
steel heart
knightz api haskell
ocean quartz
this is confusing, a little bit
We'll see if it looks confusing once it's ready
prisma wave
(gui
[column itemstack]
[]
[itemstack fn])
``` :smile:nope
lunar cypress
Did you just try?
jovial warren
I've ran Gradle with Java 8 and built my Java 16 project with a toolchain
oh btw, guess what just finally built properly
obtuse gale
Komponent?
jovial warren
https://ci.kryptonmc.org/job/Krypton/ the build with the localisation and SJ
obtuse gale
🌝
obtuse gale
https://ci.kryptonmc.org/job/Krypton/ the build with the localisation and SJ
Ah nice
prisma wave
YO MAMA JUST BUILT PROPERLY
ocean quartz
Komponent?
kmf kgui
steel heart
alex got too much haskell
obtuse gale
"Support in training"
steel heart
solid proof of that haskell is in fact dangerous
jovial warren
"Support in training"
unfortunately not any more lol
onyx loom
yesterday
obtuse gale
Damn okay wtf
ocean quartz
This new support and the baas abuse smh
obtuse gale
That was disappointingly unnoticeable
onyx loom
jovial warren
lol
onyx loom
yo what could u always get sharpness on an axe?
jovial warren
can people actually test that latest JAR for me btw pls? 🥺
prisma wave
jovial warren
been a while since I've seen that meme
prisma wave
it is on its way to the ivory tower
obtuse gale
yo what could u always get sharpness on an axe?
Yeah for as long as I can remember
That is about 1.5 lol
onyx loom
o wtf
static zealot
yo what could u always get sharpness on an axe?
yes. with books only tho
obtuse gale
#d
onyx loom
i just tried enchanting an axe to swap the enchants for other items and saw sharpness as the hint, was so confused
no blitz
this was with an axe
onyx loom
obtuse gale
Oh on the enchantment table that got introduced somewhat recently
static zealot
that I didn't know
prisma wave
thanos
obtuse gale
But you could do it on the anvil for looong time
prisma wave
onyx loom
"Support"
jovial warren
how has that become a meme
static zealot
idk. I don't get it (yes I Know the origin)
steel heart
alex pls review my code I sent in development
prisma wave
can't review code very well on mobile
onyx loom
how has that become a meme
fer·nan·do pó·ov
jovial warren
idk. I don't get it (yes I Know the origin)
no one does lol
prisma wave
The content on the paper looks accurate when it comes to "characteristics", and the edits on the wording make it sound nicer.
I can not think of something I would like to edit, especially because the wording is something I struggle myself. I think the paper looks really good.
Good job, and thank you.
steel heart
is this my coding review from you?
static zealot
nah this is just a quote from Shakespeare
static zealot
yeah alex. you're acting sus lately
prisma wave
what
steel heart
we need kotlin mitten or just regular brister mitten back
steel heart
lol fr?
prisma wave
unfortunately
onyx loom
no nitro
prisma wave
It's only a matter of time before cube notices
onyx loom
lol
steel heart
prisma wave
static zealot
do you guys want to go vegan so we can save the planet? xD
prisma wave
No
static zealot
me neither
static zealot
what?
steel heart
spigot returns null for data structures and sometimes empty data structures
like fucking decide one n stick with it
prisma wave
in case you didn't hear the news, spigot is trash
steel heart
its not like paper fixed it I think
prisma wave
MineHraft = Hrypton
half harness
link?
steel heart
half harness
smh last commit 14 days ago
prisma wave
Yeah haven't worked on it in a while
cba to code anything
Except fixing devdenbot
static zealot
I'm sorry what? ```
error: gpg failed to sign the data
fatal: failed to write commit object
imagine being confused with gpg 🥲
static zealot
imagine being confused with gpg 🥲
I've got no idea what that is xD
static zealot
Bro just use linux
I am on kde neon u know?
prisma wave
okay 🆗🙂 👍
prisma wave
My pleasure
static zealot
what the hell even is gpg?
obtuse gale
an acronym
obtuse gale
everyone got a gpg fetish recently
tbh I set it up recently when I wanted to make a PR for Paper and then adventure, I can't say the same about the rest xD
prisma wave
it's literally like 3 commands
obtuse gale
yea
static zealot
fuck I think I Mgiht have played with this a bit few days ago. but I Think its just git config commit.gpgsign false to disable
prisma wave
Not to sound condescending, but I don't see how you could mess it up
static zealot
or --global if I want to disable it globally
prisma wave
what guide were you following?
static zealot
I don't think I was following any. but found the github one now
static zealot
does it matter what algorithm I use to generate the key? I know there's a list of accepted ones, but between those is there really any important difference?
obtuse gale
RSA is the suggested one I believe
static zealot
was going to use that one bcz is the first one before I asked here xD
obtuse gale
mhm
static zealot
oh right... the documentation says that 2 steps below
hmm when it asks for my email, can I just use the email and it will change it to the noreply one or should I actually use the noreply one?
obtuse gale
If your email on github is private then you should use the noreply one
I believe github rejects the commit when pushing if you use one of the private ones
static zealot
alr
static zealot
I believe github rejects the commit when pushing if you use one of the private o...
ah it does not but you can enable that from settings.
static zealot
yeah probably
frail glade
Oh that's actually pretty cool. Thanks for letting me know that.
static zealot
hmm
what the hell is this comment supposed to be/
Should I Just say "for github" or something like that?
or does it not matter?
obtuse gale
idk
static zealot
hmm and now I can just commit as usual? git commit -m "Message"?
or do I need some new tags
how nice yml error: gpg failed to sign the data fatal: failed to write commit object
lunar cypress
Where are you running this?
static zealot
as in path? /home/Documents/GitHub/PROJECT
static zealot
ugh Konsole is what I use
half harness
hmm and now I can just commit as usual? `git commit -m "Message"`?
git commit -a -m "Message" 😎
static zealot
what's -a for?
lunar cypress
staging all tracked changes
static zealot
ahh -all
lunar cypress
And you've set up gpg to sign all your commits?
half harness
helps so that u dont have to manually stage it
lunar cypress
you don't always want that
static zealot
do you mean git config commit.gpgsign ?
yes its true
globally
should I Just use -S when I Want to sign it?
lunar cypress
And you do have a key
static zealot
yes just made it
lunar cypress
you've entered it in your git config as well?
obtuse gale
imagine reading the documentation
frail glade
That's too mainstream Emily.
ocean quartz
That's too mainstream Emily.
static zealot
amazing
static zealot
omg I love deluxemenus return invert ? true : false; xD
where invert is a boolean ...
static zealot
idk lmao
old wyvern
yes or no? say yes if yes, no if no
static zealot
why the fuck does spigot api not have a getExpPoints method or something like that?
obtuse gale
getLevel?
obtuse gale
I don't think there is such a thing in the vanilla game either
static zealot
done some math tho myself but it sucks it doesn't have that method
obtuse gale
It's levels and progress
static zealot
yeah its calculable tho